So a TL;DR of the Kozma Minin is: It's Dimitri Donskoi but the original 7 inch guns in triple mounts swapped with the 8 inch guns in twin mounts taken straight from the Admiral Hipper class heavy cruisers.
The difference is pretty minimal, the Donskoi has 3mm higher pen at 17km and is even at 12km. Donskoi has 18k higher HE and 45k lower AP DPM. Turret traverse, dispersion, sigma etc. are all the same, as well as AA, but Kozma gets an engine boost. Flight time of Donskoi is 0.3s lower at 17km. I don't think this ship is worse, but it is pretty pointless.
Old players like me 5+ years in game and never pay anything that have 300 ships i really feel bad for people that actually buy from them when they dont listen! they have destroy the game with cvs and subs and they keep going on! PEOPLE SOULD STOP INVEST MONEY for this game! they dond deserve the money.
@@rowinglove4ever As a former old player who stopped playing quite a while back, aye aye aye to all of your points. All we have with people investing real money into this game is WG pumping out more and more dogshit trash premiums that are lazy copy paste or slight tweak / borrowing guns / consumables. More power creep, less balancing, so good amirite mofos
What you mentioned about 51mm pen is why I enjoy the Hindenburg. Consistenly doing damaged to a 50mm deck plating BB/Petro with 40mm pushing in is just comfortable to use.
Good utility, thing is with base XP it will always shine if you spend the game targeting the enemy DDs and subs, especially if they are capping/spotting...so thats the role until the end game of burning down the stragglers for a cruiser.
Can u do some vid when the sales come of what ships should we look for? Based on ur opinion and what are they for primarily credit farming and captain training
WG management: How can we get some cash to meet sales projections? WG Dev team: Russian tier IX premium! WG management: it’s enough? WG Dev team: Lots of consumables! WG management: we can do? WG Dev team:Super Easy, Barely an inconvenience!😂
with so many new cruiser line the hipper is of course outdated. Poor he dpm. Poor ap pen angle with long fuse ap. Bad maneuverability. No radar. No game impact.
This ship is almost a complete copy paste, even the guns have the same AP pen despite caliber difference. Less guns, better reload, slap an engine boost on it & boom "new" ship. edit: 0:22 good alpha for AP? It is less than donskoi yet same stats for pen , sure you shoot more often but the guns are not better.
So basically, Donskoi with 12% less HE dpm and fires, but: -27% better AP dpm -30mm deck, 27mm sides (instead of 27, 25) -additional 8% speed boost -3° better angles front and back -HE pens 51mm -Airstike ASW -0.7km better range
There is still some good tech trees. Prems are sweet tho for the ability to swap commander to them alone. Love how a commander can work for more than one class without retraining too. Like I use my ragnar commander for svea. I can just switch them back and forth.
Is there anything else like Maine? Or Condé? Or Annapolis? Aww crap… my bad. I forgot the most powerful and interesting ships happen to be super ships. But there isn’t another premium like Vermont though.
The German name is 'Was wollen wir trinken', but it goes by several other names in other languages (including 'how much is the fish' in one English version).
The answer is always "Tier 9 premiums you do well in," followed by "Tier 9 premiums you enjoy." Unless you have old Missouri, in which case the answer is old Missouri.
As for "T9s you do well in", kearsarge is pretty easy to do well in, I played it in a few ranked games and managed to get a high caliber almost every game
Who thinks the high XP results (in the lower damage games) are a result of the ship being in testing, and as such, maybe results are buffed in a testing ship to make it look much better so people buy it.
or is it a combination of most test ship players are your better players in the game, plus the fact the others don't know the week spots to exploit when shooting at them.
need some tips from you dd mains. 0:54 he mentioned how radar pushes dds away. as i just started my first dd line grind. what is the best way to play against radar. i am too scared to do anything and end up not being all that productive for the team. not sure if this helps but i have 500 hours of only bb playing haha
It's tricky and there really isn't much you can do if you do get caught out. You just have to hope that the enemies are dumb and don't swap to shooting you. Some general tips that will help that happen less are know what enemy ships have radar and know the radar range and how long the radar lasts. If the radar is a 12 km radar like on the Russian radars and you know the ship is only 6km away from you, then you should understand there is no way you can run away to get outside the radar range so you can't outrun it. That being said, the Russian radars have around 20 seconds of base radar duration and you only pop up for the rest of the enemy team around 10 seconds into a radar so therefore you know that you have to dodge shots for around 10 seconds. Going along with that, try to figure out quickly what radar ships spawned on your flank of the map so you can position yourself better to deal with the range of their radar. Second thing you can do is to have an island that you can quickly escape to planned. If you can get behind an island, then most of the enemy team won't have an angle on you to shoot you. Third thing to do is to never trap yourself between an island and the enemy. This is just general DD stuff, but if you get spotted, you typically want to immediately turn away from the enemy but if you have an island immediately to your side that you have to turn towards, then the enemy know you can't turn away without beaching yourself and therefore you become very predictable to aim for. I hope those few tips help!
And you can always speed juke the enemy cruiser by going full speed full reverse. So it’s mandatory to take propulsion and not rudder shift on a DD (and concealment in the other slot of course)
Why is WG spending so much time and effort on a never ending stream of ships? Yes I know, cash, FOMO etc. That said the game could attract extra players probably by other means as well. I play premium BUT I'm not spending a wattle of money on premium ships.
@@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to Sure, if it was a tech tree ship I could understand that, but a sidegrade to a meh ship, doesn't seem that enticing to me as a prem ship
@@lianxia1111 Seems like we have different expectations then. I think Donskoi is a pretty good TT ship, and I don't expect premium ships to be straight upgrades.
@@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to it's not about upgrades, or expectations, its about the value proposition and fun of a real money ship, I wouldn't mind if it was worse then the Donskoi in every way if it was more interesting or focused on some different aspect. maybe better stealth at the cost of dpm, or focusing on ap, rather then farming, but a ship that is practically the same is frankly just not interesting.
i have to disagree with you, about thinking all ships should have ship based ASW... i don't think ANY ship should have ship based ASW, because there shouldn't be any submarines
All i know is i need to leave Asia and get into the NA server. Players look so much worse, subs just just always cruising around on the surface and ships just love being broadside 😅
Man I hate how just yaps and repeats the same thing over and over again throughout the video. Yes we get it like don and roon, you don’t have to repeat it multiple times
If you have 125k HE DPM that is equivalent to 375K AP DPM in penetrations. Therefore on ALL ships with less than 51mm plating, all ships your AP overpens you should use HE all the time due to the increased pen and higher DPM without citadel and the pen angles. AP should only be used against ships you can citadel reliably and broadside BBs where you can full arm in the superstructure and where the belt is often over 51mm.
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So a TL;DR of the Kozma Minin is: It's Dimitri Donskoi but the original 7 inch guns in triple mounts swapped with the 8 inch guns in twin mounts taken straight from the Admiral Hipper class heavy cruisers.
Despite the lazy gun swap, Kozma is sorta loose referrence to early project 82 heavy cruiser (i.e where Stalingrad started as).
pretty much ye
Why would you want this then... The Dmitri has better guns than the hipper
exactly, it looks like a downgrade compared to Donskoi
Literally my first thought, great a squishy light cruiser hull with bad heavy cruiser guns... Tell me again why I should buy this hot trash?
The difference is pretty minimal, the Donskoi has 3mm higher pen at 17km and is even at 12km.
Donskoi has 18k higher HE and 45k lower AP DPM.
Turret traverse, dispersion, sigma etc. are all the same, as well as AA, but Kozma gets an engine boost. Flight time of Donskoi is 0.3s lower at 17km.
I don't think this ship is worse, but it is pretty pointless.
Old players like me 5+ years in game and never pay anything that have 300 ships i really feel bad for people that actually buy from them when they dont listen! they have destroy the game with cvs and subs and they keep going on! PEOPLE SOULD STOP INVEST MONEY for this game! they dond deserve the money.
@@rowinglove4ever As a former old player who stopped playing quite a while back, aye aye aye to all of your points. All we have with people investing real money into this game is WG pumping out more and more dogshit trash premiums that are lazy copy paste or slight tweak / borrowing guns / consumables. More power creep, less balancing, so good amirite mofos
What you mentioned about 51mm pen is why I enjoy the Hindenburg. Consistenly doing damaged to a 50mm deck plating BB/Petro with 40mm pushing in is just comfortable to use.
Black Friday 2024 ship list has already been posted and includes:
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Super easy pass for me. The lack of an art dept and us just getting these weird turret swap premiums is getting old.
Good utility, thing is with base XP it will always shine if you spend the game targeting the enemy DDs and subs, especially if they are capping/spotting...so thats the role until the end game of burning down the stragglers for a cruiser.
Can u do some vid when the sales come of what ships should we look for? Based on ur opinion and what are they for primarily credit farming and captain training
Happy Canadian Thanksgiving PQ!!!!😃
WG management: How can we get some cash to meet sales projections?
WG Dev team: Russian tier IX premium!
WG management: it’s enough?
WG Dev team: Lots of consumables!
WG management: we can do?
WG Dev team:Super Easy, Barely an inconvenience!😂
I hated those hipper guns on Hipper, it felt like she needs 1 more turret or 1 more gun in turrets, idk, her damage output felt extremely anemic
AP os where the damage comes from, which made up fpr it. but still they are definitely lack luster when you have to use HE.
with so many new cruiser line the hipper is of course outdated.
Poor he dpm. Poor ap pen angle with long fuse ap. Bad maneuverability. No radar. No game impact.
And i am here, waiting for a little buff to the Desmo.... Maybe more frontal armor
Why would you get this over the Donskoi?
Most importantly it's a big couter to Alaska with the improved pen and have a ton of utility so good T9 ranked ship
This ship is almost a complete copy paste, even the guns have the same AP pen despite caliber difference. Less guns, better reload, slap an engine boost on it & boom "new" ship.
edit: 0:22 good alpha for AP? It is less than donskoi yet same stats for pen , sure you shoot more often but the guns are not better.
Hey Potato...which Mods do you use?
nice ship and a good game gg
So basically, Donskoi with 12% less HE dpm and fires, but:
-27% better AP dpm
-30mm deck, 27mm sides (instead of 27, 25)
-additional 8% speed boost
-3° better angles front and back
-HE pens 51mm
-Airstike ASW
-0.7km better range
dude where in Canada do you live i'm in Alberta
i think he has mentioned northern Onterio in the past if i recall.
I have about 340 ships since CBT. So many premiums too. Sometimes I think do I even need any standard tech tree ships?
There is still some good tech trees. Prems are sweet tho for the ability to swap commander to them alone. Love how a commander can work for more than one class without retraining too. Like I use my ragnar commander for svea. I can just switch them back and forth.
Is there anything else like Maine? Or Condé? Or Annapolis?
Aww crap… my bad. I forgot the most powerful and interesting ships happen to be super ships.
But there isn’t another premium like Vermont though.
i take any/every ship i can (for free) just for the bonuses we get during the anniversary and Santa crates.
Better then Riga?
Anyone know the name of the background song at around 11:40-50? It's so familiar but I cannot put a name on it.
its in game battle music
The German name is 'Was wollen wir trinken', but it goes by several other names in other languages (including 'how much is the fish' in one English version).
would it be good in operations is my question
Seems like a chill ship. Good release, hope it comes back for coal.
when is this ship available ?
Looks decent. But i wonder where the Pan Asian Des Moines is..
Well they have the light cruisers based of Worcester derivatives so expect the CA imaginary line to be of Des Moine style.
so this is a tier 9 nevsky?
yes
No
Why are you Chat banned?
Thank you
First!
On a side note, could you do a video showcasing which premium ships are the best credit grinders?
Indeed you are!
The answer is always "Tier 9 premiums you do well in," followed by "Tier 9 premiums you enjoy." Unless you have old Missouri, in which case the answer is old Missouri.
As for "T9s you do well in", kearsarge is pretty easy to do well in, I played it in a few ranked games and managed to get a high caliber almost every game
Who thinks the high XP results (in the lower damage games) are a result of the ship being in testing, and as such, maybe results are buffed in a testing ship to make it look much better so people buy it.
or is it a combination of most test ship players are your better players in the game, plus the fact the others don't know the week spots to exploit when shooting at them.
Just what the game needed, more radar.
More ships I don't have time to play.
need some tips from you dd mains. 0:54 he mentioned how radar pushes dds away. as i just started my first dd line grind. what is the best way to play against radar. i am too scared to do anything and end up not being all that productive for the team. not sure if this helps but i have 500 hours of only bb playing haha
It's tricky and there really isn't much you can do if you do get caught out. You just have to hope that the enemies are dumb and don't swap to shooting you.
Some general tips that will help that happen less are know what enemy ships have radar and know the radar range and how long the radar lasts. If the radar is a 12 km radar like on the Russian radars and you know the ship is only 6km away from you, then you should understand there is no way you can run away to get outside the radar range so you can't outrun it. That being said, the Russian radars have around 20 seconds of base radar duration and you only pop up for the rest of the enemy team around 10 seconds into a radar so therefore you know that you have to dodge shots for around 10 seconds. Going along with that, try to figure out quickly what radar ships spawned on your flank of the map so you can position yourself better to deal with the range of their radar.
Second thing you can do is to have an island that you can quickly escape to planned. If you can get behind an island, then most of the enemy team won't have an angle on you to shoot you.
Third thing to do is to never trap yourself between an island and the enemy. This is just general DD stuff, but if you get spotted, you typically want to immediately turn away from the enemy but if you have an island immediately to your side that you have to turn towards, then the enemy know you can't turn away without beaching yourself and therefore you become very predictable to aim for.
I hope those few tips help!
If you know the radar downtime of the ships, typically 2 minutes, it really helps. Keep kiting like a mofo when it's up. O7. -FirstMatePounder
And keep your eyes on that minimap!!!
@@EraOfJack thanks for the super in depth advice ⭐️
And you can always speed juke the enemy cruiser by going full speed full reverse. So it’s mandatory to take propulsion and not rudder shift on a DD (and concealment in the other slot of course)
WG is running out of fantasy ship name 💀
All ships should have adequate asw range too .. subs can ping you and you can’t drop them it’s so stupid
"Oh yey a Donskoi clone with Hipper guns!" Said no one ever 🙃
Why is WG spending so much time and effort on a never ending stream of ships? Yes I know, cash, FOMO etc. That said the game could attract extra players probably by other means as well. I play premium BUT I'm not spending a wattle of money on premium ships.
I've stopped playing any game which runs on fomo. It's tiring.
Rare normal premium release
I know this game makes the ship seem really good, but I honestly can’t see the reason to get it
Neither can I, the Dmitri guns are better than a hippers. Both in dispersed, fire and alpha damage
You get all the utilities of Donskoi and then some, plus 51mm pen. Its decent.
@@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to Sure, if it was a tech tree ship I could understand that, but a sidegrade to a meh ship, doesn't seem that enticing to me as a prem ship
@@lianxia1111 Seems like we have different expectations then. I think Donskoi is a pretty good TT ship, and I don't expect premium ships to be straight upgrades.
@@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to it's not about upgrades, or expectations, its about the value proposition and fun of a real money ship, I wouldn't mind if it was worse then the Donskoi in every way if it was more interesting or focused on some different aspect. maybe better stealth at the cost of dpm, or focusing on ap, rather then farming, but a ship that is practically the same is frankly just not interesting.
1 million coins??? jesus!!!
i have to disagree with you, about thinking all ships should have ship based ASW...
i don't think ANY ship should have ship based ASW, because there shouldn't be any submarines
Why would you EVER spend real money on pixels? So Wargaming execs can buy their 3rd house in CA?
Entertainment has no price tag, it’s just whether it’s in our budget our not.
Do not give WG any of your hard earned money. They hate the player base.
I hate game complainers lol
a russian radar with 30s of action...wow
Only it's 25s base and 33s pimped up to the max.
i just have it on 5 box lucky me with t9 russian bs
lol
You practically played a Donskoi in the first game. The only difference between the two ships is the AP and you didn't use it much.
AP is practically the same, same pen , different caliber, miniscule differences where it becomes inferior in velocity
I'll pass. If I want to play Hipper/Prinz, I'll play a Hipper/Prinz. If I want to play a Donskoy, I'll go play a Donskoy
day 25 of asking PQ to play radar minotaur
Doesn’t sound like something to brag about.
Seems very vanilla for a premium.
So t9 nevski ...
All i know is i need to leave Asia and get into the NA server. Players look so much worse, subs just just always cruising around on the surface and ships just love being broadside 😅
talk about a pay to win ship geeez
so they copy pasted a hull and then copy pasted guns and then copy pasted consumables
the pinnacle of wargaming's ship "design" nowadays
if i can get it for free at some point i'll take it, but i never pay dubs/cash for fake pixels that may go away at any time. say, the start of WW3....
day 38 for asking for a room review
FOMO again lol. Lets hope it shows up for coal eventually.
I really hope they add a more normal BB for coal... No planes. No sap.
@@crazykev5 bring back thunderer
Soviet, not Russian.
Man I hate how just yaps and repeats the same thing over and over again throughout the video. Yes we get it like don and roon, you don’t have to repeat it multiple times
If you have 125k HE DPM that is equivalent to 375K AP DPM in penetrations. Therefore on ALL ships with less than 51mm plating, all ships your AP overpens you should use HE all the time due to the increased pen and higher DPM without citadel and the pen angles.
AP should only be used against ships you can citadel reliably and broadside BBs where you can full arm in the superstructure and where the belt is often over 51mm.
U clearly don't have any knowledge about playing the game.