they were supposed to be a bigger part but their director just wanted money and didn't give them enough time for iorveth, isengrim, yaevinn and 3 unkown scoiatael leaders.
I was born, made to raise the banner The red white and blue, nay Tisnt me, Tisnt me, I ain't no novigrad born nay, Tisnt me, Tisnt me I ain't no barons son nay - elven bard
I think Iorveth is right in many things. If Scoiatael were allowed to live peacefully in Dol Blathanna after war, there would be no need for them to fight in the woods anymore. But they were not, so hiding is the only option for them because everyone wants them dead for their past crimes. By choosing to ally with Saskia, Iorveth just wanted a new chance of peace for Scoiatael members
Well they are bandits and war criminals of course everyone wants them dead. They have been Sold out by their own Kind, the bitch queen of the flower valley
@@mr.wilson9941 In some cases they were forced into banditry because if they stayed in the cities they'd be killed. The Northern Kingdoms 100% created the scoi'atel out of their own racism and human supremacist bullshit.
@@mr.wilson9941 as if she had another choice. Dol Blathanna existence lay entirely on Nilfgaard protection. Had Enid not agreed, the valley would have lost that protection. The Aen Seidhes couldn't stop the humans at their peak, they certainly can't stop them now. She's not a bitch, she's a leader who made a hard decision.
@@thefalsekingslayer3717 nah, they did what they needed to do, the hardship their people endured was the true crime, I'm sure they didn't give 2 shit what their enemies thought about them.
Fuck those of Temeria, Geralt Of Rivia owes them absolutely nothing, besides that shortly after the assassination of Foltest by orders of the emperor of Nilfgaard, those of Temeria immediately reveal their true faces to Geralt while they torture him calling him a "Freak", without forgetting that they also decided to blame Geralt for everything, with them conveniently forgetting that Foltest had not survived until that point if not for Geralt
wiedzmin.wikia.com/wiki/Talar It is not a secret that CDPR really suck, in regards to events in the continuity of their non-canon games from the The Witcher saga, from one to another, especially now if someone compare TW 1 with TW 3, one of the greatest examples of that is Talar, who can be assassinated by Geralt, or butchered by Roderick De Wett, and the guards, but even so he will still appear in TW 3 regardless... 😃😄😆🤣😂
mariadelcarmen barragan vaucher thats true. also if you let thaler die in witcher 1 a spy will tell geralt "he died and it was your fault" in witcher 2. but in witcher 3 he lives anyway. dumb logic...
Wish that hjalmar or cerys would realize the potential of granting the scoia tael one of the unoccupied islands of the archipelago as their own (kinda like nilfgard promised) and have them swear to the defence of skellige. Skellige, evidently, once had elf inhabitors. It may be cold, and unforgivin land, but an island is a hard border, a defined land. Skellige have great marine skill, but lack in land to land battles. The scoia tael could... soften up, the enemy before any fighting begin. The skellige jarls might object if it isnt presented properly, but if the military advantage is presented in... an non-dishonorable way, I think noome would object in giving them an island.
nah it wont happen. i think dijikstra would let scoiatael go to dol blathanna because if redania wins the war dijikstra also gets dol blatanna and mahakam
gegen sw djikstra is likely to turn the scoiatael over to anyone that requested them in exchange for not attacking... the skelligers atleast know loyalty to their allies. And wont up and murder them if it fits their schemes. (Guess which decision I made every time?) Skyrim belongs to the nords!
isengrim was supposed to be on the side of dijikstra so it makes sense for scoiatael to join him. in order to stop their rebilion he would just let them settle in dol blathanna or vergen thats all. once again nilfgaard stole their chance to live peacefully with humans in vergen. dijikstra killed them because they wanted to sell every northren country including redania. as for tes i prefer dunmers and i hate their empire as well. tamriel belongs to the dunmers. their empire steal their wealth and rob merchants and has a lot of corruption like bribes and so on. in skyrim i don't like both sides.
gegen sw the dumner? You are talking about a race that enslaved argonians and you complain about taxes? That is some stomach, I must say. ;) The dumner have no historical claim to any region besides morrowind, the empire has no claim on skyrim, but the nords have a claim on all of tamriel, sinve they founded the empire ;)
Skellige does not consider non-humans differently from the continent. they are very isolationist and already have a hard time considering the humans of the continent as their peers then the non-humans ... besides you said yourself that there were elf inhabitants on Skellige, in your opinion, why did they disappear? so no, I do not think non-humans will be better treated in Skellige than on the continent.
I mean the elves and dwarves as well can be right assholes sometimes, but they have a really interesting and unfortunate background (the elves especially) so I like them and it's unfortunate they weren't really (significantly) in the witcher 3. Thanks for the vid mate👍
I love the scoia'tael, I wish they had a bigegr part in Witcher3, I do understand their struggles and fight, I simpatize with their goal but I don't make excuses for all of their actions and ways of doing things. And how they often let themselves be politically used. I understand what made them do it and while Iorveth is one of the coolest characters in all saga and one of my fave, he is also a mass murderer of many guilty but also many innocent people. and is also feared and detested by many nonhumans too for that reason. so I'm really torn but yeah definitely have a soft spot for him/them. He's right in many things and some of his speeches give me chills, but he's not right in blaming all on humans, Elves alike have a history of racism towards other species and concerning and slaughtering other species too..
If you're talking about the Vrans, that's game canon only. The cohabitation between the Aen Seidhes and the others species was more peaceful than between humans and other species. Not talking about the Aen Elle.
same was between the white immigrants coming from europe to America. They thought they were more valuable and commit a genocid, shove the indians into reservations. I also sympathize with the elves, Tolkien made them a noble folk and Peter Jackson made them famous and beloved all over the world!!
Did you remember Nilfgardian Army camp, and inn just from them, that you cant go inside? That was location of canceled Scoiatael mission. In Novigrad Yorvetch was converted to King of Beggars.
@@efaristi9737 i think it would take away from the "story telling" aspect a bit, make it a bit sandbox-ish/elder scrolls-ish. And also it would be unbalanced a bit, a normal human guy can't possibly fight monsters, basically the witcher world would be a horror game if you would play as a regular human, even if you are a soldier kinda type you would probably die to a few drowners or something. Maybe if you can only be the "elite" of the said faction, like special commando unit as warrior or something, but still a witcher or a mage could just slaughter a pretty group of your class. Story telling would also become a bit problematic, like they would have to make basically different games for each (like a human flaming rose knight doesn't really have much in common with a scoia'tael archer lol and your average witcher has nothing in common with either of the two) So i think the best option in terms of character creation would be is to have a witcher as a class but you could chose your school which would basically give you a "class". Like wolf school witchers are basically the warrior/spellsword with some amount of magic archetype (the balanced ones) Cat school would be more "rouge-ish" Griffin would be more knight-ish/paladin-ish Bear could be straight up warrior/barbarian. Viper could maybe go for the assassin-ish type with twin blades. (similar to the cat but more on the line of poison, twin blades, bombs, while the cat could be more "mercenary" type with longsword, crossbow etc) This way your character could have a semi pre-rendered personality and voice, and the game could have a better more polished storyline this way while leaving you some freedom to personalize your character. i think this would be the best of both worlds.
@@krisania96 "i think it would take away from the "story telling" aspect a bit, make it a bit sandbox-ish/elder scrolls-ish." I don't mind. "a normal human guy can't possibly fight monsters" Actually, they can. Not with the same success than witcher of course but humanity often prevail thanks to sheer numbers. Geralt in the Edge of the World adress it that times are changing and that normal peoples are dealing themselves with the monsters. There is another example with the Griffon in TW3 in White Orchid, the Nilfgardians, regular humans, killed the Griffon mate by themselves. A normal human would need a party of course. "Maybe if you can only be the "elite" of the said faction, like special commando unit as warrior or something, but still a witcher or a mage could just slaughter a pretty group of your class." Not necessarily true. There's many examples of mages being taken down by humans in the books. Geralt himself has been taken down by humans more than once. And Leo Bonhart has, allegedly, bested 3 wittchers in combat. "Story telling would also become a bit problematic, like they would have to make basically different games for each (like a human flaming rose knight doesn't really have much in common with a scoia'tael archer lol and your average witcher has nothing in common with either of the two)" That's a false problem, many rpg already do that and CDP has largely the means to do it. Playing character that have nothing in common with the others is what i like. Why does some peoples always said "rouge" instead of "rogue" ? I'm not fond of the idea but it is not a bad one. Despite different schools and styles, witchers will always have a similar path, similar social life, similar standing... There's not much variation.
@@krisania96 Also, keep in mind that Geralt is unusually strong for a witcher because of the extra trials he went through. He is not a average witcher.
@@efaristi9737 I think to me atleast your last point is exactly what would make a better game, so the game could tell a story more consistently. Though i like your idea of "creat your own character from scratch" i've always had a problem with my character feeling more "empty"/no real personality. I don't mind it in other games too much where the point is only to explore and run around like the elder scrolls series, but to me it would cease to be a witcher game. it would be a cool "spinoff" kinda game but wouldn't call it "the witcher". Also i'm afraid that it would mean the storyline would be much shorter, since you can't give all the characters the same storyline (same as i said above, an order knight, a witcher, a scoia'tael, and a mage have nothing in common in their goals/life/etc mostly.) I know you wouldn't mind as you stated, but i think most players (or atleast i would) would mind. I agree with the fact that humans can take down monsters, but i highly doubt any game with give you a squad all the time. And running into a griffin while you try to explore or packs of drowners would be a pain in the ass imo. Though for some i reckon it could add to the immersion. So i guess if done correctly it could be cool to try and run and hide from monsters like in a "horror game" style. Or it could be solved more-less with having some kind of companion system implemented like the whole game would be about group traveling together, like Geralt's hanza in the books. That way i guess you could have different roles in the said group. (bit dragon age style i guess though but it could work i think) Rogue-rouge, 'cuz i can't fuckin' write lol English is not my native, though i know the difference between the two words but i fuck it up at every possible chance i get lol. All in all it's pretty much doable if the game has a well implemented group/hanza system or something, actually it might even be cooler/more "bookish" that way, not sure. Though i would still prefer to have a well written character as the main character. and as well written storyline (and length) of the previous game. So i guess the best option imo would be to have a witcher as a main character but with the hanza system where you could make choises like you either have a knight of the order in your group or a scoia'tael archer etc and it would have consiquences later on blabla. you get the idea.
I have a soft spot for the Elves in any universe, in which they nearly always seem to be the elder race and Witcher world is not an exception - this derives from the ancient European mythologies, actually. That's one reason why I let them be whenever I encounter any. Scoia'tael lifestyle may seem very brigand like for some, but I cannot say it's entirely unjustified.
@@alexdornenherz Good point, there. No, crimes are still crimes and no race is innocent. Each one has a dark past, in Witcher world or real life. It doesn't make a judgement any less complicated that one's terrorist might be another one's freedom fighter, however.
@@Elaini-GamingThe past is one thing, but how about current events? And consequence of the past? Americans pay no consequence for Bush's fantasy of Iraq. Russians however, get plenty of spit and sanctions from the western world. Now hypocrtes are virtue signalling as if they care about war. They don't, they only care about themselves.
At best, you get Isengrim, Iorveth is kinda based on him. But otherwise, the games happens after the books so there is no chance for Iorveth to appear.
Honestly if I was in the Witcher universe, I'd support the Scoia'tael despite being a dh'oine, I's be like the "Hurk" of the Scoia'tael, and call them "Homie" a lot :P Also if you don't know who Hurk is, he's this dude who helps the player out in Far Cry 3 and 4. Alos Iorveth is a badass, both him and Geralt! :3
XD wow that is such a weak insult, I've heard better insults from GTA Online tryhards. No, I am not dim, in fact I am actually pretty entertaining and funny.
On one hand I understand why they hate humans. On the other hand, killing a random merchant couple wandering the woods doesn't make you a freedom fighter. In addition, what the humans did to the elves, the elves themselves did to the dwarves and Vren. So yeah, whole I understand their plight they're just as bad as humans. Bandits with a cause.
it's unfortunate that you do not put subtitles, English is not my mother tongue so I find it difficult to understand the oral. I feel a mixture of love and pity for non-humans in general because they are really close to extinction. that is why I always supported the Soia'tael, it will be their salvation ... or their doom. in addition, what humans have done (and what they continue to do) is really horrible.
All hail Arse Blathana! The only reason they aren't running around acting just like the humans is the humans beat them at their own game. When they ruled the elves were no different to the other races than the humans are now.
I understood that the elves lived in peace with the other races before humans arrived. besides, I never read that they directed anything other than their own kind. If they were cruel masters, I doubt that the Dwarves and others would be so quick to ally with them. but it is true that I did not find many documents on the life of non-humans before the Conjunction. the little that I had hinted they were peaceful.
@@i.cs.z it did not have to be terrible conflicts if the Dwarves are still ready to ally with them and god knows they have long memories, grudges and accurate archives. I watched a string of youtuber Cianurr who read the books and make great videos on the universe The Witcher. And he says that indeed the Elves and the other Ancient Races had at least a short period of conflict at the beginning and then peace settled because they did not live in the same environment and far enough from each other . The Dryads do not seem to have been mistreated by the Elves, if that was the case, knowing the character of Eithnné, we would know quickly, the queen of Dryads forgives nothing. In addition, the Elves did not even attack the Humans when they arrived on the continent, their relations were very peaceful at the beginning also because the Elves liked a lot to sleep with them. it differentiates them a lot from Aen Elle. So if there was a conflict, I think it was because they were very different.
I sided with Seigfried in Witcher 1 because squirrels in the first game were dumb and only caused problems... But iorveth had a good plan with pontar valley.. Sided with them this time...
With the books I never really had any sympathy for the Elves but yes, a proper hell for them, first used as puppets by the Nilfgaardian powerhouses, when the war was lost they were sold out and betrayed by both Nilfgaard and the Elf leadership (Fransesca) while progroms were ongoing in the northern kingdons.... Dwarfs, just gotta love em..
Pogroms were already running before, maybe less but still. Personally, I think Enid An Gleana did not really have a choice, what could she have done against the Nilfgaard empire? I think she sacrificed part of her people to allow the only free Elven kingdom to live.
before the second war there were no pogroms in the north as i remember. she sacrificed their youth so their elven kingdom is nothing. in witcher 2 their youth gained vergen but later these nilfgaardian cunts destroyed it.
gegen sw human racism towards non-humans is not new, it may have been less important before but it existed. Hatred between humans and non-humans does not come out of nowhere and has existed for a long time for solid reasons. There is a codex in TW2 that mentions golems and how the first was built after a pogrom and it was well before the war. I'm pretty sure the books also suggest that nonhuman abuse by humans is not new, I remember a passage where a knight (Redanian, I believe) pointed out how the kingdoms had to deal with vermin non-human. Certainly, but it is better to sacrifice a part of his people than the totality, Dol blathanna still has the hope to continue. in witcher 2? you mean in the books? otherwise I'm sure she has nothing to do with it, she probably did not encourage it anyway. I doubt that Enid An Gleana is stupid to think that the only important thing is that she can reign over a small kingdom ... especially if this kingdom ends up losing its population.
there was hatred but i didn't see any mentions about pogroms. in kovir&poviss humans and non humans live peacefully. she sacrificed the totality of the young elves so their race got closer to extinction and dol blathanna has only the old elves who cannot have children . in witcher 2 the young elves will have vergen if you side with iorveth. between w2 and w3 the nilfs destroy their city and kill every non human there.
gegen sw really? where is it mentioned? the totality seems to me exaggerated, especially that all the elves did not support the Scoai'tael. And what would you have wanted her to do? that she resists the Emhyr? so they would all be dead, young and old, the Elves could not resist humans at a time when they all dominated the continent and humans were less organized, so Dol Blathanna would have had absolutely no chance against the empire. I had seen that Nilfgaard had conquered Aedirn and therefore the lands annexed by Saessenthis but not that they had massacred the population of Vergen. Where did you see that? These are real questions, I'm not sarcastic.
If u say as the squirrels are bad.. so as the human, the army, the one do war.. They kill peasant, innocent people from the other kingdom just so they can took the land or killing an innocent non-human that aren't a fighter. Human and non human what they do is nothing different.. There is always the bad and the good one.
You know what's sad? Before the Conjunction of the Spheres there were only elves, dwarfs, halflings and gnomes and after humans came into their world they become outcasts.
If i had to live in the witcher universe I would not support the Scoia'teal, yes opressing ppl is bad but responding with actions just short of terrorism isnt helping, neither is most of the elfs fighting seem that they are a bit hipocritical about themsleves
hating them more doesn't matter, because things would never get better. humans would always prefer to be on top and piss on the others. Violence is the only language we really understand
If elves in witcher still ruled people would be driven to the see. Look at dwarves. They kept their own way of life and they are craftsmen mercenaries etc... BTW Elves in south were practically vanquished (Nilfgaard, Touissant)
Vít Čábela what do you mean? I do not know much about the life of non-humans in Nilfgaard. I do not think they would throw humans into the sea, when they landed in the world after the conjunction, it is said that they lived peacefully with other species for a few centuries (I think). It was when humans multiplied and began to need larger territories that things got worse.
@Andrew von Daeryn nah. also if we talk about racists the only good racist who has a lot of cons is henselt. kaedweni people don't seem that bad in the game.
ALMOST irrelevant in the witcher 3...there is one quest you can pick up by wandering a south of Velen forest, from memory it's before you cross the bridge into the city.
It's funny the elves in The Witcher both books and games were ment to serve as a deconstruction of Tolkien elves but even now they can be a deconstruction of elves from fantasy settings that came after the books. Like Dragon age where everyone os racist towards elves and the elves who reject living in the city to live in the forest are feared. In the Witcher most pesants don't really care outside of a few drunks and handfull or racists and the Scoia'tael are basically just homeless Larpers who get demolished when faced with even a small group of soldiers.
I don't know much about these scoia'tael, are they like Dragon Age's Dalish-- jungle elves who disdain humans? wow sounds like witcher 2 has so much politics.
Scoia'tael aren't a culture but a army of diverse non-humans commando who have enough to be treated like shit and want to fight back. they are kind of a bit like terrorists and freedom fighters. The elves on the other hand are indeed a bit like the elves of DA: Some get assimilated and live in humans cities and others have chose exile in the woods and mountains and still live according to their traditions. but unlike the Dalish, they didn't lost their cultures and knowledges. The elves in the cities never fully integrate into humans societies, clinging to their culture, and the Free Aen Seidhes keep to themselves, even from their assimilated kin.
Sorry but I couldn’t stand the Scotia’tael from the very beginning in the first game. It’s kind of hard to support a group that killed innocents in Vizima in the Witcher 1 and still claim that they are just in their fight.
I'm not sure it's fair to say that, look at animals, there is not one species on Earth that does not fight its own kind for any reason. conflict is part of life, one might even think that it is an important part of it. But I agree that no other species has sown as much destruction as humans.
How many times have you seen or heard of an Elf killing another Elf? How many times have you seen or heard of a Dwarf killing another Dwarf? How many times have you seen or heard of a Human killing another Human? -An animal only kills another animal simply by a natural process in its survival instinct, that is not the same as killing someone just for greed, ambition, personal desires, etc... -Simply.., if they are compared, humans kill each other, or other species the 99% of the time, while members of other species try to kill each other at the most the 1% of the time. -So.. definitively.., humans are by far the most self-destructive species that exists, especially.., whether in their killings or not in these, they also destroy part of the environment in the process, which also brings them in one way or another to their own destuction & also to the other species along with them.
for the Ancient Races, I do not really know, no conflict is ever mentioned because their archives, their history was practically destroyed during the war, we do not know how they lived before the Conjunction, nobody ever talks about it except to say that this is where humans and monsters appeared (detail that humans often forget I find) but we know that they sometimes clash as when the Scoia'tael attacked a convoy of gold of Foltest composed mainly of dwarfs in the books. Besides, I have an example ... two actually, I think about it now: in TW2, in the 2nd chapter, way of Iorveth, E'leyas, his second, killed young men because they were the lovers of a Succubus to whom he had developed an obsession, Humans AND Elves. And the blacksmiths runes of the Dwarves killed his master to appropriate his secrets. (By the way, I find the quest for E'leyas ridiculous: where did he found the time, when his unit has just arrived in Vergen, to copulate with a Sucube, become obsessed and kill several people in just a few days?) so you see, it's unpleasant but Non-humans are no different from humans on this point. And then there is Loc muinne, where we have the suspicion that it was the Elves who massacred the Vrans of the city to appropriate it. no proof, of course, but the suspicion is there. an animal that kills another animal? are you kidding there? it happens every day of every month of every year. you think a cat catches a mouse to cuddle? so yes humans are undoubtedly the worst, the most destructive but to say that it only happens to us, that it is specific to our nature is wrong and unfair.
scoia'tael were the main reason humans didn't trust elves and other nonhumans. Humans dwarves and elves all lived amongst each other in every witcher game I have played. Many even own businesses within most towns so I feel like the discrimination and lack of trust from the humans was much more justified when there were these crazy fanatics murdering and kidnapping not even sparing women and children in the first witcher. I felt like the scoia'tael were more the cause of the issues that they were fighting for than the humans. At least imo.
The scoia'tel wouldn't need to become mass murderers if the humans let the elves in peace. But when they are mercilessly forcing them to live in ghettos, why would the scoia'tel not return their cruelty to them?
Not exactly, Humans distrusted non-humans long before the war. Of course, not all of them, it varies from a individual to another, cities, states... But pogroms were still a thing before the wars and it's not rare that non-humans have to pay more taxes than humans. If you have played the games, then you had to see that the cohabitation between humans and non-humans wasn't always easy. The Scoia'tael is a result of it, not a cause. But their actions did make things worses. In season of storm, way before the wars, the new king expulsed all the non-humans from his kingdom and confiscated their posessions so you can't say they were all living in peace and harmony. There is also the fact that elves resented humans a lot for destroying their realms and forced them to live in their cities. The main problem of the Scoia'tael is that, from the beginning, they weren't fighting for themselves, they were fighting for Nilfgaard.
Not a huge fan of them attacking innocent humans like fuck terrible cruel humans they can die but yeah humans getting killed for no reason bothers me in witcher but good video like always dude 😄😄😄
but above all they kill a lot of young elven men and women in the war. they have only dol blathanna for elves while there are no elves in nilfgaard itself.
Never liked the Scoia'tail. I thought it being in the books and the games kind of racist, but I know it was important for the plot of course and it did have some cool characters but I think spakwoski could've done a better job if he just made them legit Rebels and not terrorists. I mean we get to see them commit unspeakable atrocities through out the wars but if you take a point of view from there side they literally didn't have any choice in it all. I prefer to call them liberators not terrorists, which Andreaj unfortunately made them look. Anyway I loved the video like always so thanks.
if aliens conquier our lands, kill our children, destroy our civilization and bring their settlers in our houses we will end up the same way as scoiatael. and then they will call us terrorists, murderers, thieves and so on.
gegen sw I'm sorry but I think freedom fighting and out right killing 'anyone' you see who hasn't got a pointy ear is not something right. The Scoia'tael believe that they should rule over man and others and not as equal, in fact in the books the atrocities they commit are unlike any that the humans actually do. If they truly want 'Freedom' and not vengeance they should kill only those who appose them and not innocent woman and children.
and these innocents humans kill innocent non humans and their children or beat them to death or rape their innocent elven women. scoiatael kill civillians because they have no choice. if they have a chance to work with humans and gain the same right they use it. iorveth is just another example. also in the game yaevinn does nothing wrong.
WitcherGeorge I never quite grasped that ending... a war is a costly affair. Especially if you have a national army. In feudal societies, each lord taxates and equip troops, which results in some disparity depending on funds and ambition. but in nilfgard, it all seems standardized. Meaning the most equipment seem to be funded by the crown, which probably indebted them in some way, or likely starved the population in some way (might be loot, but then they starved the occupied states instead). Causing those expenses, and then just "here, you can have it back" doesnt seem reasonable. They need to heavily taxate the occupied terrotories for some time to cover the deficit in the accounting. Giving the territories back before you have paid for the war? Hoping they continue to send you their taxes? If they stop, you will have double the expenses in taking it back AGAIN. It is just bad from a national economic standpoint. Emhyr should know this, for ploughing a fiends sake, he already know of the animosity at court for less than causing a huge national debt, if this got out of hand, there would be riots.
gegen sw well, a small insurrection every now and then is to be expected in an authoritarian regime. However, being able to contain it, and snuff it, before it spreads? Had the romanovs managed that, then russia could have still been an empire to this day. If emhyr cannot direct his troops to another front, a profitable one, quickly, then hos massive army will have to be let go. Thousands of troops that havent been home for years. Comming home to their families and fields... that is another sensitive matter. Likely, not all wives have been faithful. Likely, not all farms are still there. Likely, many will not get the greeting they long for. Emhyr might actually have another rebellion on his hands real soon. From the bulk of his battle hardened veterans. Discontent is a dangerous thing.
Here's something funny if you want to know the why of the elves. And because of where you're from, you should know this. Go ask a northerner, Newcastle or further into Scotland to say squirrel tail. I get flipped shit for this constantly. Do it and you'll see I lived in Edinburgh for many many years. Squirrel tail. Yeah. I just said a witcher elf
Wish the scoia'tael were a bigger part of the witcher 3. Great video btw
they were supposed to be a bigger part but their director just wanted money and didn't give them enough time for iorveth, isengrim, yaevinn and 3 unkown scoiatael leaders.
gegen sw if that's true, that is a shame. They are an amazing faction.
game was already delayed 3 times the team just wasnt that big to make the witcher 3 at the time
Yea it looks that way. They still blew expectations out the water so i'm not very bothered.
I mean, I wonder if they would have found a way to Dulbelthan.
In The Witcher 3 I was fighting the Lord of the Wood and a band of Scoia'tael happened by and helped out.
That's so cool aha
same here
There is a section of them nearby so that makes sense i dont get why they weren't bigger or a dlc
fun fact - squirrel in italian is "scoiattolo".. very similar to scoia'tael
And Go in ancient language means Go, also in portuguese
bella ahahaha
When the trees start speaking Elder Speech
I was born, made to raise the banner
The red white and blue, nay
Tisnt me, Tisnt me, I ain't no novigrad born nay,
Tisnt me, Tisnt me I ain't no barons son nay - elven bard
@@Ralfester nice one lol
I think Iorveth is right in many things. If Scoiatael were allowed to live peacefully in Dol Blathanna after war, there would be no need for them to fight in the woods anymore. But they were not, so hiding is the only option for them because everyone wants them dead for their past crimes. By choosing to ally with Saskia, Iorveth just wanted a new chance of peace for Scoiatael members
Well they are bandits and war criminals of course everyone wants them dead. They have been Sold out by their own Kind, the bitch queen of the flower valley
@@mr.wilson9941 In some cases they were forced into banditry because if they stayed in the cities they'd be killed. The Northern Kingdoms 100% created the scoi'atel out of their own racism and human supremacist bullshit.
@@mr.wilson9941 as if she had another choice. Dol Blathanna existence lay entirely on Nilfgaard protection. Had Enid not agreed, the valley would have lost that protection. The Aen Seidhes couldn't stop the humans at their peak, they certainly can't stop them now. She's not a bitch, she's a leader who made a hard decision.
The Scoia’tael is probably my favorite fantasy faction to date.
They are basically just the IRA (irish Republican army)
@@thefalsekingslayer3717 They are a hybrid of the black panthers and the IRA, thats what makes them awesome
@@FuckdasketsHOPassass awesomely disgusting maybe. All they ever accomplished was make me more hateful towards them
@@thefalsekingslayer3717 nah, they did what they needed to do, the hardship their people endured was the true crime, I'm sure they didn't give 2 shit what their enemies thought about them.
flexin on sea turtles
Black panthers are literal terrorists. Fuck each and every single one of them. Hope they all die slowly and painfully
The Scoia’tael are cool and sort of sad when you read more into their stories
Can't wait for Mr. Polish Guy Who's Name I Can't Remember gets done with the next book.
Blake Medders andrzej sapkowski?
Ain't he finished? Sapkowski is a kook anyway.
Fuzzy Dunlop why does everything keep saying Sapkowski or whatever his name is is spent hug along the lines of a "kook?"
Still hunting Scoiatel? You are kidding right? Who cares about the scoiatel anymore. Temeria, that's what matters.
Haha
Fuck those of Temeria, Geralt Of Rivia owes them absolutely nothing, besides that shortly after the assassination of Foltest by orders of the emperor of Nilfgaard, those of Temeria immediately reveal their true faces to Geralt while they torture him calling him a "Freak", without forgetting that they also decided to blame Geralt for everything, with them conveniently forgetting that Foltest had not survived until that point if not for Geralt
mariadelcarmen barragan vaucher i agree with you. i sided with iorveth and dijikstra.
wiedzmin.wikia.com/wiki/Talar
It is not a secret that CDPR really suck, in regards to events in the continuity of their non-canon games from the The Witcher saga, from one to another, especially now if someone compare TW 1 with TW 3, one of the greatest examples of that is Talar, who can be assassinated by Geralt, or butchered by Roderick De Wett, and the guards, but even so he will still appear in TW 3 regardless... 😃😄😆🤣😂
mariadelcarmen barragan vaucher thats true. also if you let thaler die in witcher 1 a spy will tell geralt "he died and it was your fault" in witcher 2. but in witcher 3 he lives anyway. dumb logic...
Wish that hjalmar or cerys would realize the potential of granting the scoia tael one of the unoccupied islands of the archipelago as their own (kinda like nilfgard promised) and have them swear to the defence of skellige. Skellige, evidently, once had elf inhabitors. It may be cold, and unforgivin land, but an island is a hard border, a defined land. Skellige have great marine skill, but lack in land to land battles. The scoia tael could... soften up, the enemy before any fighting begin.
The skellige jarls might object if it isnt presented properly, but if the military advantage is presented in... an non-dishonorable way, I think noome would object in giving them an island.
nah it wont happen. i think dijikstra would let scoiatael go to dol blathanna because if redania wins the war dijikstra also gets dol blatanna and mahakam
gegen sw djikstra is likely to turn the scoiatael over to anyone that requested them in exchange for not attacking... the skelligers atleast know loyalty to their allies. And wont up and murder them if it fits their schemes. (Guess which decision I made every time?)
Skyrim belongs to the nords!
isengrim was supposed to be on the side of dijikstra so it makes sense for scoiatael to join him. in order to stop their rebilion he would just let them settle in dol blathanna or vergen thats all. once again nilfgaard stole their chance to live peacefully with humans in vergen. dijikstra killed them because they wanted to sell every northren country including redania. as for tes i prefer dunmers and i hate their empire as well. tamriel belongs to the dunmers. their empire steal their wealth and rob merchants and has a lot of corruption like bribes and so on. in skyrim i don't like both sides.
gegen sw the dumner? You are talking about a race that enslaved argonians and you complain about taxes? That is some stomach, I must say. ;)
The dumner have no historical claim to any region besides morrowind, the empire has no claim on skyrim, but the nords have a claim on all of tamriel, sinve they founded the empire ;)
Skellige does not consider non-humans differently from the continent. they are very isolationist and already have a hard time considering the humans of the continent as their peers then the non-humans ... besides you said yourself that there were elf inhabitants on Skellige, in your opinion, why did they disappear? so no, I do not think non-humans will be better treated in Skellige than on the continent.
I mean the elves and dwarves as well can be right assholes sometimes, but they have a really interesting and unfortunate background (the elves especially) so I like them and it's unfortunate they weren't really (significantly) in the witcher 3. Thanks for the vid mate👍
Glad you enjoyed it man
Only playing the 3rd game this video really helped me understand what this guild is .
You have the play the second game. It’s amazing! 9/10 in my book.
I love the scoia'tael, I wish they had a bigegr part in Witcher3, I do understand their struggles and fight, I simpatize with their goal but I don't make excuses for all of their actions and ways of doing things. And how they often let themselves be politically used. I understand what made them do it and while Iorveth is one of the coolest characters in all saga and one of my fave, he is also a mass murderer of many guilty but also many innocent people. and is also feared and detested by many nonhumans too for that reason. so I'm really torn but yeah definitely have a soft spot for him/them. He's right in many things and some of his speeches give me chills, but he's not right in blaming all on humans, Elves alike have a history of racism towards other species and concerning and slaughtering other species too..
If you're talking about the Vrans, that's game canon only. The cohabitation between the Aen Seidhes and the others species was more peaceful than between humans and other species. Not talking about the Aen Elle.
same was between the white immigrants coming from europe to America. They thought they were more valuable and commit a genocid, shove the indians into reservations. I also sympathize with the elves, Tolkien made them a noble folk and Peter Jackson made them famous and beloved all over the world!!
I will repeat it elves (and witcher george) are awesome!
really liked Squirrels in the games, not so much in the books ... for all the carnage on civilians 8/
they are still the same.
Did you remember Nilfgardian Army camp, and inn just from them, that you cant go inside? That was location of canceled Scoiatael mission. In Novigrad Yorvetch was converted to King of Beggars.
Iorveth as a mafia leader? he never stood so low.
@@efaristi9737 getting help from a mafia boss isn't the same as being a member of his crew. i think iorveth was supposed to work with dijkstra tho.
If Witcher 4 happens I hope the Scoia'tael have a bigger role in it
May your wish be granted. I really hope the next witcher let us create our own character race/genre/class and choose a faction.
@@efaristi9737 i think it would take away from the "story telling" aspect a bit, make it a bit sandbox-ish/elder scrolls-ish. And also it would be unbalanced a bit, a normal human guy can't possibly fight monsters, basically the witcher world would be a horror game if you would play as a regular human, even if you are a soldier kinda type you would probably die to a few drowners or something.
Maybe if you can only be the "elite" of the said faction, like special commando unit as warrior or something, but still a witcher or a mage could just slaughter a pretty group of your class.
Story telling would also become a bit problematic, like they would have to make basically different games for each (like a human flaming rose knight doesn't really have much in common with a scoia'tael archer lol and your average witcher has nothing in common with either of the two)
So i think the best option in terms of character creation would be is to have a witcher as a class but you could chose your school which would basically give you a "class".
Like wolf school witchers are basically the warrior/spellsword with some amount of magic archetype (the balanced ones)
Cat school would be more "rouge-ish"
Griffin would be more knight-ish/paladin-ish
Bear could be straight up warrior/barbarian.
Viper could maybe go for the assassin-ish type with twin blades. (similar to the cat but more on the line of poison, twin blades, bombs, while the cat could be more "mercenary" type with longsword, crossbow etc)
This way your character could have a semi pre-rendered personality and voice, and the game could have a better more polished storyline this way while leaving you some freedom to personalize your character. i think this would be the best of both worlds.
@@krisania96 "i think it would take away from the "story telling" aspect a bit, make it a bit sandbox-ish/elder scrolls-ish." I don't mind.
"a normal human guy can't possibly fight monsters" Actually, they can. Not with the same success than witcher of course but humanity often prevail thanks to sheer numbers. Geralt in the Edge of the World adress it that times are changing and that normal peoples are dealing themselves with the monsters. There is another example with the Griffon in TW3 in White Orchid, the Nilfgardians, regular humans, killed the Griffon mate by themselves. A normal human would need a party of course.
"Maybe if you can only be the "elite" of the said faction, like special commando unit as warrior or something, but still a witcher or a mage could just slaughter a pretty group of your class." Not necessarily true. There's many examples of mages being taken down by humans in the books. Geralt himself has been taken down by humans more than once. And Leo Bonhart has, allegedly, bested 3 wittchers in combat.
"Story telling would also become a bit problematic, like they would have to make basically different games for each (like a human flaming rose knight doesn't really have much in common with a scoia'tael archer lol and your average witcher has nothing in common with either of the two)" That's a false problem, many rpg already do that and CDP has largely the means to do it. Playing character that have nothing in common with the others is what i like.
Why does some peoples always said "rouge" instead of "rogue" ?
I'm not fond of the idea but it is not a bad one. Despite different schools and styles, witchers will always have a similar path, similar social life, similar standing... There's not much variation.
@@krisania96 Also, keep in mind that Geralt is unusually strong for a witcher because of the extra trials he went through. He is not a average witcher.
@@efaristi9737 I think to me atleast your last point is exactly what would make a better game, so the game could tell a story more consistently. Though i like your idea of "creat your own character from scratch" i've always had a problem with my character feeling more "empty"/no real personality. I don't mind it in other games too much where the point is only to explore and run around like the elder scrolls series, but to me it would cease to be a witcher game. it would be a cool "spinoff" kinda game but wouldn't call it "the witcher".
Also i'm afraid that it would mean the storyline would be much shorter, since you can't give all the characters the same storyline (same as i said above, an order knight, a witcher, a scoia'tael, and a mage have nothing in common in their goals/life/etc mostly.)
I know you wouldn't mind as you stated, but i think most players (or atleast i would) would mind.
I agree with the fact that humans can take down monsters, but i highly doubt any game with give you a squad all the time.
And running into a griffin while you try to explore or packs of drowners would be a pain in the ass imo. Though for some i reckon it could add to the immersion.
So i guess if done correctly it could be cool to try and run and hide from monsters like in a "horror game" style.
Or it could be solved more-less with having some kind of companion system implemented like the whole game would be about group traveling together, like Geralt's hanza in the books.
That way i guess you could have different roles in the said group. (bit dragon age style i guess though but it could work i think)
Rogue-rouge, 'cuz i can't fuckin' write lol
English is not my native, though i know the difference between the two words but i fuck it up at every possible chance i get lol.
All in all it's pretty much doable if the game has a well implemented group/hanza system or something, actually it might even be cooler/more "bookish" that way, not sure. Though i would still prefer to have a well written character as the main character. and as well written storyline (and length) of the previous game.
So i guess the best option imo would be to have a witcher as a main character but with the hanza system where you could make choises like you either have a knight of the order in your group or a scoia'tael archer etc and it would have consiquences later on blabla. you get the idea.
I have a soft spot for the Elves in any universe, in which they nearly always seem to be the elder race and Witcher world is not an exception - this derives from the ancient European mythologies, actually. That's one reason why I let them be whenever I encounter any. Scoia'tael lifestyle may seem very brigand like for some, but I cannot say it's entirely unjustified.
I too have a soft spot for elves.
Every universe except Skyrim
You forgive war crimes based on the race of those who committed them?
@@alexdornenherz Good point, there. No, crimes are still crimes and no race is innocent. Each one has a dark past, in Witcher world or real life.
It doesn't make a judgement any less complicated that one's terrorist might be another one's freedom fighter, however.
@@Elaini-GamingThe past is one thing, but how about current events? And consequence of the past? Americans pay no consequence for Bush's fantasy of Iraq. Russians however, get plenty of spit and sanctions from the western world. Now hypocrtes are virtue signalling as if they care about war. They don't, they only care about themselves.
As A German the Vrihedd brigades symbol makes me reaaally uncomfortable....
But great video
the arrows lightning-like?
I want to see Iorveth in the Witcher series.
At best, you get Isengrim, Iorveth is kinda based on him. But otherwise, the games happens after the books so there is no chance for Iorveth to appear.
Hello from the future! Witcher season 3 just came out in nz. Hopefully he's in it
also driads are seen in the scoia'tael ranks sometimes
Another well done video!
Thank you mate
Thought Geralt was gonna deliver some serious bars in the intro lol.
Honestly if I was in the Witcher universe, I'd support the Scoia'tael despite being a dh'oine, I's be like the "Hurk" of the Scoia'tael, and call them "Homie" a lot :P Also if you don't know who Hurk is, he's this dude who helps the player out in Far Cry 3 and 4.
Alos Iorveth is a badass, both him and Geralt! :3
lol you would be killed by them on the spot
Lol, then I'd haunt them and troll them from beyond the grave. :P
You're kinda dim, aren't you?
XD wow that is such a weak insult, I've heard better insults from GTA Online tryhards. No, I am not dim, in fact I am actually pretty entertaining and funny.
On one hand I understand why they hate humans. On the other hand, killing a random merchant couple wandering the woods doesn't make you a freedom fighter. In addition, what the humans did to the elves, the elves themselves did to the dwarves and Vren.
So yeah, whole I understand their plight they're just as bad as humans. Bandits with a cause.
it's unfortunate that you do not put subtitles, English is not my mother tongue so I find it difficult to understand the oral. I feel a mixture of love and pity for non-humans in general because they are really close to extinction. that is why I always supported the Soia'tael, it will be their salvation ... or their doom. in addition, what humans have done (and what they continue to do) is really horrible.
Sorry! I will try and remedy that in the future!
I would be extremely grateful to you.
Awesome stuff. Subscribed.
thanks man
I want more Isengrimm 😢 I hope a future game will speak more on him or finally introduce him.
Me too!
Great video. Some of those elven names seem are quite hard to pronounce.
They really are haha
Don't Nilfgaardians have some Elven ancestry as well?
Yes they are!
Ah I see. Thanks.
even the redanian king does
@@wise8304 show me a human who doesn't have a elf among his ancestors XD
Does anyone know the song at 4:41? It sounds like it might be from the Wild Hunt or Elder Scrolls Online soundtrack
Dwarven stone upon Dwarven stone
Sweet, thanks!
I like the word Scoia’tael
SCOIA’TAEL FTW!
(Dont ask I love iorveth.)
Me too!
Sparle!
All hail Arse Blathana!
The only reason they aren't running around acting just like the humans is the humans beat them at their own game. When they ruled the elves were no different to the other races than the humans are now.
Very true
I understood that the elves lived in peace with the other races before humans arrived. besides, I never read that they directed anything other than their own kind. If they were cruel masters, I doubt that the Dwarves and others would be so quick to ally with them. but it is true that I did not find many documents on the life of non-humans before the Conjunction. the little that I had hinted they were peaceful.
@@efaristi9737 If you read the book, a dwarf actually say that the elves treated them and others the same way humans treat them now...
@@i.cs.z it did not have to be terrible conflicts if the Dwarves are still ready to ally with them and god knows they have long memories, grudges and accurate archives. I watched a string of youtuber Cianurr who read the books and make great videos on the universe The Witcher. And he says that indeed the Elves and the other Ancient Races had at least a short period of conflict at the beginning and then peace settled because they did not live in the same environment and far enough from each other . The Dryads do not seem to have been mistreated by the Elves, if that was the case, knowing the character of Eithnné, we would know quickly, the queen of Dryads forgives nothing. In addition, the Elves did not even attack the Humans when they arrived on the continent, their relations were very peaceful at the beginning also because the Elves liked a lot to sleep with them. it differentiates them a lot from Aen Elle. So if there was a conflict, I think it was because they were very different.
Too bad they didn't show much in witcher3
theyre almost extinct reduced to just a few camps hiding and trying to survive until they can rebuild and revive their numbers
I sided with Seigfried in Witcher 1 because squirrels in the first game were dumb and only caused problems... But iorveth had a good plan with pontar valley.. Sided with them this time...
Flip-flop aha
I admit, i don't really get what Yaevinn hoped to gain at Wizima...
With the books I never really had any sympathy for the Elves but yes, a proper hell for them, first used as puppets by the Nilfgaardian powerhouses, when the war was lost they were sold out and betrayed by both Nilfgaard and the Elf leadership (Fransesca) while progroms were ongoing in the northern kingdons.... Dwarfs, just gotta love em..
Pogroms were already running before, maybe less but still. Personally, I think Enid An Gleana did not really have a choice, what could she have done against the Nilfgaard empire? I think she sacrificed part of her people to allow the only free Elven kingdom to live.
before the second war there were no pogroms in the north as i remember. she sacrificed their youth so their elven kingdom is nothing. in witcher 2 their youth gained vergen but later these nilfgaardian cunts destroyed it.
gegen sw
human racism towards non-humans is not new, it may have been less important before but it existed. Hatred between humans and non-humans does not come out of nowhere and has existed for a long time for solid reasons. There is a codex in TW2 that mentions golems and how the first was built after a pogrom and it was well before the war. I'm pretty sure the books also suggest that nonhuman abuse by humans is not new, I remember a passage where a knight (Redanian, I believe) pointed out how the kingdoms had to deal with vermin non-human.
Certainly, but it is better to sacrifice a part of his people than the totality, Dol blathanna still has the hope to continue.
in witcher 2? you mean in the books? otherwise I'm sure she has nothing to do with it, she probably did not encourage it anyway. I doubt that Enid An Gleana is stupid to think that the only important thing is that she can reign over a small kingdom ... especially if this kingdom ends up losing its population.
there was hatred but i didn't see any mentions about pogroms. in kovir&poviss humans and non humans live peacefully. she sacrificed the totality of the young elves so their race got closer to extinction and dol blathanna has only the old elves who cannot have children . in witcher 2 the young elves will have vergen if you side with iorveth. between w2 and w3 the nilfs destroy their city and kill every non human there.
gegen sw
really? where is it mentioned? the totality seems to me exaggerated, especially that all the elves did not support the Scoai'tael. And what would you have wanted her to do? that she resists the Emhyr? so they would all be dead, young and old, the Elves could not resist humans at a time when they all dominated the continent and humans were less organized, so Dol Blathanna would have had absolutely no chance against the empire. I had seen that Nilfgaard had conquered Aedirn and therefore the lands annexed by Saessenthis but not that they had massacred the population of Vergen. Where did you see that? These are real questions, I'm not sarcastic.
Hi been in hospital all day getting diagnosed with HSP, but hey
At least i got McDonald's
Hope you're okay man
Its not life threatening, dont even think i actually have it as i only have half a symptom out of around 9 symptoms
I will never hear again gwinblade😥
If you like the squirrels, you weren't paying attention. Terrorism and killing innocents is never ever okay, no matter the cause.
Exactly, someone who finally, finally, gets the point of them in the books.
If u say as the squirrels are bad.. so as the human, the army, the one do war.. They kill peasant, innocent people from the other kingdom just so they can took the land or killing an innocent non-human that aren't a fighter. Human and non human what they do is nothing different.. There is always the bad and the good one.
You know what's sad? Before the Conjunction of the Spheres there were only elves, dwarfs, halflings and gnomes and after humans came into their world they become outcasts.
And before those races there were the vrans, life's a vicious cycle haha. It's still sad though
The elves had only been there for about a thousand years before humans. Dwarves had been there much longer. Gnome, the longest.
Why elf don't get back to tir na lia
First, because they don't come from there, second, because they can't travel between worlds anymore, they are stuck on the continent.
Are the markings on their faces tattoos or paint?
I doubt they tattoo their eyes especially since tattooing in the past was very unsafe or painful.
@@TheSasudomi elves are a more advanced civilisation than human medieval.
If i had to live in the witcher universe I would not support the Scoia'teal, yes opressing ppl is bad but responding with actions just short of terrorism isnt helping, neither is most of the elfs fighting seem that they are a bit hipocritical about themsleves
They wouldn't accept a d'hoine anyway haha, kidding I understand your side, but humans are just as bad.
WitcherGeorge They are just as bad but killing random merchants only makes people hate elves even more.
hating them more doesn't matter, because things would never get better. humans would always prefer to be on top and piss on the others. Violence is the only language we really understand
If elves in witcher still ruled people would be driven to the see. Look at dwarves. They kept their own way of life and they are craftsmen mercenaries etc...
BTW Elves in south were practically vanquished (Nilfgaard, Touissant)
Vít Čábela what do you mean? I do not know much about the life of non-humans in Nilfgaard. I do not think they would throw humans into the sea, when they landed in the world after the conjunction, it is said that they lived peacefully with other species for a few centuries (I think). It was when humans multiplied and began to need larger territories that things got worse.
It would be more appropriate to call them a faction than a guild.
What does the word Kaer mean ?
Fortress I think
Scoia'tael? Pfff I have something grown in Temeria Blue Stripes
Edit: I really want a Witcher Total War Mod
Haha, the Blue stripes may even be the next guild!
WitcherGeorge This pleases me and my compatriots
it was nice to see henselt executed them haha
If you own crusader kings 2 a witcher map is available to play.
So Nilfgaard betrayed them.. How surprising
the scoia'tael and dijkstra> the order and temeria
@Andrew von Daeryn nah. also if we talk about racists the only good racist who has a lot of cons is henselt. kaedweni people don't seem that bad in the game.
ALMOST irrelevant in the witcher 3...there is one quest you can pick up by wandering a south of Velen forest, from memory it's before you cross the bridge into the city.
in the grand scheme, like all the political games and the wildhunt, they're pretty irrelevant aha
Lad it's not a guild it's a special forces like the blue stripes
It's funny the elves in The Witcher both books and games were ment to serve as a deconstruction of Tolkien elves but even now they can be a deconstruction of elves from fantasy settings that came after the books. Like Dragon age where everyone os racist towards elves and the elves who reject living in the city to live in the forest are feared. In the Witcher most pesants don't really care outside of a few drunks and handfull or racists and the Scoia'tael are basically just homeless Larpers who get demolished when faced with even a small group of soldiers.
Soyatel
It annoyed me in the Witcher 3 there’s only 1 hooded piece of clothing
I don't know much about these scoia'tael, are they like Dragon Age's Dalish-- jungle elves who disdain humans? wow sounds like witcher 2 has so much politics.
Scoia'tael aren't a culture but a army of diverse non-humans commando who have enough to be treated like shit and want to fight back. they are kind of a bit like terrorists and freedom fighters.
The elves on the other hand are indeed a bit like the elves of DA: Some get assimilated and live in humans cities and others have chose exile in the woods and mountains and still live according to their traditions. but unlike the Dalish, they didn't lost their cultures and knowledges. The elves in the cities never fully integrate into humans societies, clinging to their culture, and the Free Aen Seidhes keep to themselves, even from their assimilated kin.
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Sorry but I couldn’t stand the Scotia’tael from the very beginning in the first game.
It’s kind of hard to support a group that killed innocents in Vizima in the Witcher 1 and still claim that they are just in their fight.
I love them
Completely agree. I never side with them
They did nothing that humans didn't do to their kinds.
@@efaristi9737 That just mean they're both terrible, and I hate both the Scoia'tail and the Order of the Flaming Rose.
@@KaiHung-wv3ul True but non-humans are so in retaliation while humans are so for power and pleasure. But i understand why you wouldn't support them.
The vegans of the witcher lore.
Reminds me of that scene is the hobbit. 'Where are the chips?"
well iorveth eats his chicken in his dream
*the vegans*
they aren't vegans, they eat like humans. In fact, the Aen Seidhes have a long tradition of hunter-gathrerers.
Damn humans. Always destroying what they don’t understand
Everytime
in my opinion they are as bad as each other (non humans and humans)
perhaps, but at least non-humans have not succeeded in exterminating humans while humans are close to succeeding.
Humans are much worse than non-humans, because of their self-destructive nature.
I'm not sure it's fair to say that, look at animals, there is not one species on Earth that does not fight its own kind for any reason. conflict is part of life, one might even think that it is an important part of it. But I agree that no other species has sown as much destruction as humans.
How many times have you seen or heard of an Elf killing another Elf?
How many times have you seen or heard of a Dwarf killing another Dwarf?
How many times have you seen or heard of a Human killing another Human?
-An animal only kills another animal simply by a natural process in its survival instinct, that is not the same as killing someone just for greed, ambition, personal desires, etc...
-Simply.., if they are compared, humans kill each other, or other species the 99% of the time, while members of other species try to kill each other at the most the 1% of the time.
-So.. definitively.., humans are by far the most self-destructive species that exists, especially.., whether in their killings or not in these, they also destroy part of the environment in the process, which also brings them in one way or another to their own destuction & also to the other species along with them.
for the Ancient Races, I do not really know, no conflict is ever mentioned because their archives, their history was practically destroyed during the war, we do not know how they lived before the Conjunction, nobody ever talks about it except to say that this is where humans and monsters appeared (detail that humans often forget I find) but we know that they sometimes clash as when the Scoia'tael attacked a convoy of gold of Foltest composed mainly of dwarfs in the books.
Besides, I have an example ... two actually, I think about it now: in TW2, in the 2nd chapter, way of Iorveth, E'leyas, his second, killed young men because they were the lovers of a Succubus to whom he had developed an obsession, Humans AND Elves. And the blacksmiths runes of the Dwarves killed his master to appropriate his secrets. (By the way, I find the quest for E'leyas ridiculous: where did he found the time, when his unit has just arrived in Vergen, to copulate with a Sucube, become obsessed and kill several people in just a few days?) so you see, it's unpleasant but Non-humans are no different from humans on this point. And then there is Loc muinne, where we have the suspicion that it was the Elves who massacred the Vrans of the city to appropriate it. no proof, of course, but the suspicion is there.
an animal that kills another animal? are you kidding there? it happens every day of every month of every year. you think a cat catches a mouse to cuddle?
so yes humans are undoubtedly the worst, the most destructive but to say that it only happens to us, that it is specific to our nature is wrong and unfair.
scoia'tael were the main reason humans didn't trust elves and other nonhumans. Humans dwarves and elves all lived amongst each other in every witcher game I have played. Many even own businesses within most towns so I feel like the discrimination and lack of trust from the humans was much more justified when there were these crazy fanatics murdering and kidnapping not even sparing women and children in the first witcher. I felt like the scoia'tael were more the cause of the issues that they were fighting for than the humans. At least imo.
The scoia'tel wouldn't need to become mass murderers if the humans let the elves in peace. But when they are mercilessly forcing them to live in ghettos, why would the scoia'tel not return their cruelty to them?
Not exactly, Humans distrusted non-humans long before the war. Of course, not all of them, it varies from a individual to another, cities, states... But pogroms were still a thing before the wars and it's not rare that non-humans have to pay more taxes than humans. If you have played the games, then you had to see that the cohabitation between humans and non-humans wasn't always easy. The Scoia'tael is a result of it, not a cause. But their actions did make things worses.
In season of storm, way before the wars, the new king expulsed all the non-humans from his kingdom and confiscated their posessions so you can't say they were all living in peace and harmony.
There is also the fact that elves resented humans a lot for destroying their realms and forced them to live in their cities.
The main problem of the Scoia'tael is that, from the beginning, they weren't fighting for themselves, they were fighting for Nilfgaard.
Not a huge fan of them attacking innocent humans like fuck terrible cruel humans they can die but yeah humans getting killed for no reason bothers me in witcher but good video like always dude 😄😄😄
0:29 Geralt literally predicted BLM
Heard Nilf have some cities only for elves in their empire
Ah awesome, the elves wanted their own plot of land though I suppose
but above all they kill a lot of young elven men and women in the war. they have only dol blathanna for elves while there are no elves in nilfgaard itself.
@@gegensw4500 there is a lot of elves in Nilfgaard, they are called Wood Elves, Spark from the band of the rats is one of them.
I think the books said that elves have their own colonies in nilfgaard indeed.
If elves were real Id be hooking up with an elven woman in a minute lol.
Hahaha. I was just playing witcher 3 and seen a hot elf chick and was thinking that too lmao 😂😂😂
Never liked the Scoia'tail. I thought it being in the books and the games kind of racist, but I know it was important for the plot of course and it did have some cool characters but I think spakwoski could've done a better job if he just made them legit Rebels and not terrorists. I mean we get to see them commit unspeakable atrocities through out the wars but if you take a point of view from there side they literally didn't have any choice in it all. I prefer to call them liberators not terrorists, which Andreaj unfortunately made them look. Anyway I loved the video like always so thanks.
I agree with you completely man, it's a difficult choice, but putting yourself in their shoes, it's hard to argue that they're wrong
if aliens conquier our lands, kill our children, destroy our civilization and bring their settlers in our houses we will end up the same way as scoiatael. and then they will call us terrorists, murderers, thieves and so on.
soorena firouzabadi legit rebels exist only in tv. scoiatael just show how real revolutions work.
gegen sw I'm sorry but I think freedom fighting and out right killing 'anyone' you see who hasn't got a pointy ear is not something right. The Scoia'tael believe that they should rule over man and others and not as equal, in fact in the books the atrocities they commit are unlike any that the humans actually do. If they truly want 'Freedom' and not vengeance they should kill only those who appose them and not innocent woman and children.
and these innocents humans kill innocent non humans and their children or beat them to death or rape their innocent elven women. scoiatael kill civillians because they have no choice. if they have a chance to work with humans and gain the same right they use it. iorveth is just another example. also in the game yaevinn does nothing wrong.
I don't really favour the scoiatel or the northern kingdoms. LET THE SUN OF NILFGARD RISE!
the temerian lilies will bloom under the nilfgaardian sun.
well good luck to be betrayed by emhyr again naive temerian idiots haha
WitcherGeorge I never quite grasped that ending... a war is a costly affair. Especially if you have a national army. In feudal societies, each lord taxates and equip troops, which results in some disparity depending on funds and ambition. but in nilfgard, it all seems standardized. Meaning the most equipment seem to be funded by the crown, which probably indebted them in some way, or likely starved the population in some way (might be loot, but then they starved the occupied states instead). Causing those expenses, and then just "here, you can have it back" doesnt seem reasonable. They need to heavily taxate the occupied terrotories for some time to cover the deficit in the accounting. Giving the territories back before you have paid for the war? Hoping they continue to send you their taxes? If they stop, you will have double the expenses in taking it back AGAIN. It is just bad from a national economic standpoint. Emhyr should know this, for ploughing a fiends sake, he already know of the animosity at court for less than causing a huge national debt, if this got out of hand, there would be riots.
w0t3rdog according to morvran nilfgaardian plebs started their revolution against emhyr in the south.
gegen sw well, a small insurrection every now and then is to be expected in an authoritarian regime. However, being able to contain it, and snuff it, before it spreads? Had the romanovs managed that, then russia could have still been an empire to this day.
If emhyr cannot direct his troops to another front, a profitable one, quickly, then hos massive army will have to be let go. Thousands of troops that havent been home for years. Comming home to their families and fields... that is another sensitive matter. Likely, not all wives have been faithful. Likely, not all farms are still there. Likely, many will not get the greeting they long for. Emhyr might actually have another rebellion on his hands real soon. From the bulk of his battle hardened veterans. Discontent is a dangerous thing.
Cedric wasn’t Scoia’tael
Yes he was but quit because he had disturbing visions and began drinking to blot that out. Long story. Great character!
They're basically the Black Panthers of the Witcher mythos
Kinda!
Elf lives matter lol.
That they do aha
How could anyone say that the Scoia'tael are good? They cut of squirrels tails and stick them to their hats and stuff....
I mean, I imagine they kill them in a humane way before hand.
the most cancerous gwent faction
oh come on haha, I'd say nilfgaard takes the cake on that point
WitcherGeorge Henselt deck would disagree
Ior'veth sounds terrible in English.
I love it aha
Here's something funny if you want to know the why of the elves. And because of where you're from, you should know this. Go ask a northerner, Newcastle or further into Scotland to say squirrel tail. I get flipped shit for this constantly. Do it and you'll see
I lived in Edinburgh for many many years. Squirrel tail. Yeah. I just said a witcher elf
I'll give it ago!