They destroyed Star Wars, they destroyed Star Trek. They destroyed The Witcher. They even destroyed the Lord of the Rings. This people only destroy never create anything of value.
Imagine being Henry Cavill, nerd enough to tell them they were making a mistake going in the direction they did, humble enough not to take himself too seriously and respect the fans, rich enough to be able to walk away from projects he doesn't agree with because he doesn't need the money and boss enough to tell his current employers to go suck rocks and f**k right off. Kudos to this man.
He's an inspiration to everybody to be honest. Even if you don't make a much money as him you can still relate to his thought process, because it's not about the money
His description of his position within the Witcher season 3 is a hugely respectful and poignant warning, he easily could have what on everyone and everything but no, he has too much class.
The literally had their own GoT series right in their hands with an actor who LOVES the source material, and is deeply invested in the character. It's a DREAM acquisition. The fact that Daftflix managed to screw this up just goes to show how absolutely inept, stupid, and vapid these armchair activists are. They deserve this, but man do I feel bad for Cavil.
The point isn't whether Henry will be fine or not. The point is he was working on a project he was invested in, had the potential to be really good, but it was runined by an arrogant bunch of assholes who only wanted to parasitically infest an IP they could use to push... the message. I, for one, can't wait for AI to replace a vast swathe of hollywood acters/writers (activists). They can learn to fucking code..
Cavill had a duty to do due diligence before signing up. In fact, _any_ actor with star power in today's Hollywood is required to do deep, intense, due diligence because so many fcuking wokesters are running around pretending to be creative people. Cavill should have ensured that the writers were as in love with, and passionate about the source material as himself, and he for sure should have had final say on the script. In lieu of either of these preconditions, he would have saved himself a boatload of angst and disappointment. Fuck around and find out. He fucked around, he found out.
@@loganknoll You know I would absolutely love that too ... but I'm so very afraid of Warhammer 40k suffering the same bullshit the Witcher, LotR etc suffered. I'm leggit worried.
@@zejulius58Cavill is executive producer on the 40K show, and that IP is his favorite, as stated in multiple interviews he’s done. By hook or by crook, he’ll at least show the right aesthetics and stay faithful to the lore. I also have a feeling that he’ll go through a lot of writers until he finds some that actually respect the source material.
Not only do you have Cavill as executive producer but, per information released by Games Workshop, the writers that are being approached are familiar with the setting Plus Games Workshop themselves have retained input regarding creative guidelines for the shows and it is well known how fiercely they protect their IP
Imagine having an established IP, an excited fan base eager for your work & Henry Cavill going above & beyond to help you make a great product… and then failing this hard. It’s genuinely impressive
Hundreds of thousands of people signed the "Keep Henry, sack the writers" petition and they _still_ couldn't see past their own reflections to what the fans wanted!
They don't care about the fans they care about their message. And if they came get their message across they will trash the IP. They have done this with star wars Marvel and harry potter.
@michaelhouk7603 exactly this, and they see the material as beneath them. The sooner we realize that 98% of hollywood hates the source material they're given, hates the IPs they're forced to work with, etc. The sooner they stop trying to bastardize it because they'll either have nothing to make, no one to watch it, and no money backing them. At that point they will have to be fans, they will have to find funding, they will have to take it seriously, or they will surely be working as a receipt checker at walmart.
Imagine how excited Henry must have felt when he got the role, like a childhood dream come true. To get the chance to play a character you absolutely love and to introduce the world of the witcher to a new bigger fanbase. And then it goes so far that he chooses to leave the show because he could not keep up anymore with the writers bullshit. I feel so sorry for him.
Ngl I feel like he'd been so unfortunate with the people he works with on the projects he'd been a part of: BvM, Witcher and the unfinished vision that was MoS. I actually quite enjoyed the modern serious interpretation of the Superman and I think he did a very good job at that as he usually does. Just such a shame that bad writing, trending riding and greedy execs ruined so many things
Well said. Except none of this was accidental, but Culture War. This is exactly what happened [ 5:45 ] despite those ppl trying to blame the fans. Hiring people who abhor the source material and the values and ideas it embodies, mocking and bullying and humiliating Cavill and Sapkowski and the whole Witcher community, none of that was accidental, at all. It's just the same as what they did to TLoTR with that revolting Amazon show. [ 7:17 ]
Wouldn’t it have been the exact opposite? I remember Cavill stating in an interview that he was looking to _personally_ purchase the rights for a Witcher show, but Netflix swooped in before he could finalize his stuff
As soon as he sae the showrunner was a chick, he should have bailed. Women have such open disdain for anything that takes men’s attention away from them. They hate how little it takes to make us happy
@@Thorn_416Stop generalizing like that. I'm a girl and I like Geralt much more than Yennefer, I'm unhappy with how they took his character's significance away. Disrespecting the source material that you're in charge of is a very bad move. The showrunner and the circle of creators that she hadn't driven away and that support this mess are annoying and should be ashamed of themselves, but it's not every woman that does that. I dislike it when people demand more women in media just because they're women and I'm tired of it, but then there's people like you. Extremes on both sides. You both should look into a more moderate look on life, not everything is black and white.
If I was the actress for Yennifer and I was told that the reason for my casting was not because of my talent or similar appearance to the character but to challenge beauty standards, I would be insulted.
It’s sad bc you can tell she has dropped 15lbs since the first season trying to get the sharper features of Yennifer’s look. She was miscast- she doesn’t have chemistry with Henry, she doesn’t have the commanding presence that Yennifer has in the books, and she doesn’t match the look. It’s unfortunate bc she is a good actress, she is absolutely beautiful, and could have easily played one of the other mages. Now, she is tied to this shit show.
@@poki580 There's a difference between paychecks soothing wounds or sell out your soul. I think Anya is seriously contemplating her life choices right now.
Yeah, he made his career with that move. Now people respect him, because he respected the source material, and turned his back on ridiculous political fashion brainwashing.
As someone who's just watched the third season last week, it's glaring how much the creative team resents Henry. He almost never appears, when he is there, he is not essential to the plot developement and he is overall treated like pure muscle with no input or real impact. He is there to be the grunt who does the phisically taxing work Yennefer and Ciri wont or to serve as a distraction. it just hurts to watch and it made me support Henry that much more.
I am a fan of Witcher book series, in the original Polish edition, mostly for the slightly cynical and ironic sense of humor that the Author, mr Sapkowski, implemented while mocking the fairy tales he used as inspirations for his short stories about the Witcher. It was so wildly popular in the Nineties that a movie and TV series, a short one, were made! The joke? Producers tried to be faithful to the source material and actors took their jobs seriously. Witcher was played by Michael Żebrowski, who played his part well enough. It was a unintended disaster. I like mr Cavil's acting as a Witcher slightly better though. The rest of this Netflix show is an abomination that managed to "eclipse" the polish first tries on putting those books on the TV screen. The biggest joke? Comparably, the polish productions used shoe-string budget and the then trending actors involved played the part mostly out of fondness for the then wildly popular book series. Fanbase kinda hated Cirilla when she was introduced in the Five Book series, though. She "stole the show" and Witcher was shown ambiguously as bleeding out on Jennefer's knees while she tries to magic-surgery him to stay with her. Books never tell if he survived his stint as "shonen hero" ... wich is where Game Makers took up and made sure that in their Game World, the White Wolf survived the unfortunate close meeting with farming fork trough the guts. I hadn't played the games, first traumatic encounter with movie-ising of Witcher discouraged me from playing a video game within the Witcherverse. Video games are taking liberties, even necessary ones so gameplay can happen, and it irks me greatly with Witcher wich was one of my fond teenagerhood memories. By that I mean the short stories, two tomes of them, each easily a movie-format in my opinion but what do I know! So here are my opinions from being forced to watch first season, by my niece who's fan of mr Cavil. Who frankly speaking was the only reason I endured at all. Geralt - Mr Cavil's portrayal of him was much younger and less cynical/dissapointed with people being dicks around him. More of how you would imagine young and idealistic Geralt. Not enough scars both physical from Witcher jobs and mental from being ~60 year old man forced to acknowledge that his ideals don't match reality surrounding him. Though in the books Geralt was written as looking as "good looking 30+" because Witchers were "foul mutants" who cheated their age and had longevity of the "body deteriorates slower than normies". :) Yennefer - Book Yen and Netflix show Yen? The only similarties between the two are as follow: 1) One of those is a high-class and rich sorceress. The other is a magical equivalent of a fresh graduate out of university ... lost in her job-hunting failures. 2) Both have black hair. But one of them spends lots of care to look good, and knows it as a weapon against fools, while the other is magically good despite being "spontaneously" sloppy and disheveled while remaining painfully dull. I felt sorry for the actress, honestly. 3) Name. But one of them had "last name" being Yennefer of Wengerberg (if my memory isn't fucking with me, since Yen was tigh-lipped about her origins and we got only glimpses from Gealt's insights that he wasn't sharing to avoid opening old wounds). Other just have first name. Now the contrasts between the two characters: 1) One met the Witcher as an antagonist. It was a funny short story where they met for the first time and she learned too much about Geralt's character in both funny and epic way. Try reading the short story where Buttercup travelling with Geralt found a genuine Djinni "magic lamp". Comedy gold for me. I don't even remember, two weeks after suffering the season 1, how Netflix Yennifer met Geralt. Not so sorry for my lacking memory. 2) One of them is an "old witch" archetype character. Elegant, self confident and sharp minded with a touch of mystery air. But also ruthless and prone to pettiness towards strangers. We observe how her relationships with Geralt, cause she and he had ... rocky relations over the many short stories they featured together, change her personality somewhat to be less prickly. The other I remember writing as young witch who isn't self confident and seem to give impression of running as Cirilla's sidekick. I very well may be wrong but that's the impression of Netflix "interpretation" of the character. 3) One of them had clearly definied magical and physical prowess. Namely she hated sweating if it wasn't while having sex. And liked to enjoy luxurious lifestyle. It was one of the reasons (their relationships were rocky) she couldn't understand why Geralt wouldn't stand for long living with her in the lap of luxury as her kept hubby. She was a competent magician, but not a archmage powerhouse. Just rich enough from her own work to live luxuriously. A fact she was regretting in the final scene when her "first aid" tier magical healing skills were failing her to keep Geralt alive. Second is basically a variant of Terry Pratchett Sourcerer. Magic does whatever she wants , and I'll state generously that it's her mentality that stops her from just doing everything with a wave of her hand and snap of fingers. I won't compare Netflix Cirilla and book Ciri since i dislike the character anyway. :D Now I forgot why i was writing it, so have it, and have a nice day everyone.
@@ThePsangrejust play the games, they do take liberties, but they also evidently cared and respected the source material, which is already more than film industry is doing, they are also better written and acted.
I found S3 unwatchable. I gave up early when Geralt lost Ciri in a stupid bush maze which is completely idiotic as they forget he has hightened senses. Fairly sure there's a scene in the games with Triss which has parallels and Geralt uses his Witcher senses to track...
The best part about this series was Henry Cavill as Geralt. He was so into the character that the directors called him really annoying to work with. Who knew being passionate about the source material could be a problem. Mad props to Henry, the true Geralt
I feel sorry for the main cast, they looked so sad in the recent interview. I think they were doing their best, especially Anya and Joey. Because of stupid writers their career is now busted as well. Hope they'll find better projects.
Really shows that they're trying to make the show anything but faithful. How long do they want to keep using fantasy stories as a medium for their personal agendas?
I became a huge Cavill fan not because he looks like a fricking demigod and has absolutely adorable smile, builds his own computer, enjoys everything nerdy, can act, etc. But because he has shown the whole world what the integrity looks like whilst being called a "toxic gamer". He has a class and years ahead to create loads of amazing roles. I will surely follow everything he does out of respect for the man.
No, the show is just shit, every aspect of it, losing Cavill was just the final nail, people have been complaining for a long time, long before Henry left
Shows the difference in what a good team makes. I remember Peter Jackson saying how they constantly had to rewrite scenes because Ian McKellen was constantly reading the books and pointing out "Gandalf actually did this" "Gandalf said it like this" and there was no frustration or resentment there. Just a team passionate about making a good movie and working together to achieve it. Look how well the Lord of the rings and the hobbit trilogies did! Give Henry Cavill and The Witcher to Peter Jackson and his team and you'd be rewarded with a master piece.
Are you kidding me?? Mckellen was known to the cast as 'The Man of The Book', coz he kept saying to Jackson that waht much of what he was doing wasn't in the books! And the Hobbit Trilogies were a an insult to Tolkein, as was LOTR. Jackson had no need to ''Rewrite Scenes'', if only he had stuck to the book lore, but for some reason, probably hollywood producers wanted to stick their own oars into it so the could boast that they had made LOTR ''Better'', which of course he didn't!
@jamesmyers2261 I'm personally hoping for a Ciaphas Cain show. Perfect to introduce the WH40k universe and one of the most beloved character in the setting.
There's nobody working in Hollywood who I respect at this point more than Henry Cavill. He fought to get the role cuz he loves the source material, and he left the role when he realized how much everyone else around him disrespected the source material. He's the only one treating film and TV as the art that it's meant to be, the rest of them are just treating it like any other job
I used to work in Film, including the second season of The Witcher. And you are very very right. Sadly, it’s always treated as just another job. There is no love in it. Get in. Get out. Next.
I wouldn't even say he works in Hollywood. He had a few big roles like Superman and Theseus in Immortals, but he was never embraced by Hollywood. Ever.
The fact that Henry Cavill knows everything about the story was one of the reasons I have started watching the show. Also the way he prepared for it and that he even designed his own sword was out of the ordinary. Too bad Netflix messed it up by putting nonsense into the show...I am glad Henry spoke up about it and that he doesn't want to be part of this freak show. I totally respect him for his decision!!!
I think Henry's professionalism is not to be understated. I can't imagine the joy he must have had when he got the part, adapting one of his favourite works for a huge new audience. And then the utter frustration when he had to work with people who didn't even have an ounce of the interest he had and instead hated the source material, not even giving it a semblance of respect. The fact that he didn't lash out and didn't give the writers the rageful exit from the show that they desperately wanted, shows what a smart guy he is. Cavill only gained from this, whilst Netflix has to put out ads of “Yes, he’s still Geralt in Season 3” admitting that he is the only reason people watched the show.
I completely agree. If we do actually get a Mass Effect or Warhammer 40K adaptation with him in it, let's hope the showrunners learn from the Witcher's mistakes.
Yup... if the Writer's Guild strike ends with all of them unemployed and penniless, I will laugh and applaud. Those hacks have destroyed more wonderful franchises than I care to count. The studios could dial random phone numbers across America and hire whoever answers...and they would end up with a better crop of writers than the mob of loser activists currently on strike.
I feel so bad for Henry. He probably came into this project with so much hope and joy but then had to watch it as it all crumbled into the mess we all know.
Funniest shit is how all the higher ups of the show and netlflix pushed the narrative that henry is a toxic gamer and sexist when he left the show but after when marketing season 3 it was literally "hey henry cavil is still the witcher in this one come see it"
"He probably came into this project with so much hope and joy but then had to watch it as it all crumbled into the mess we all know." Every single fan did.
As novelist copy editor, I know EXACTLY what happend with this show.. something that happens to most writers who are working with other people's original work and writing adaptations of. In short, writers have an overriding drive to create their own material, to express themselves, their ideas. Most however fail to do this at a commercial level and appeal to masses, so when an opportunity presents itself to work with someone elses intellectual property, they try to use it as a means to tell THEIR story, not an adaptation of the original work. Unfortunately most writers also don't realize they are probably a mediocre writer (most are, few are genuinely talented). That is what happened here. The writer(s) took the original material and said to themselves "I have a much better idea than the original author, let's use my ideas!" They then fail to realize what made the original source material loved... it was the original author's superior work. A mediocre writer gets their hands on superior material and tries to change it so they can put their own ego ahead of it and say "that's my work!"... failing to see their ideas and writing are vastly inferior to the original work.
i really enjoyed this show's writers trying to work out their issues with their mothers on my tv screen. it was exactly what i was looking for in my grimdark monster hunting fantasy show.
@@ramirobarrera2845 I understand the sentiment (believe me, as someone who has to edit the work of mediocre novelist writers for a living, I appreciate the frustration with their mediocre work). However, failing to support their cause (not the writers themselves perhaps, but their cause) will only ensure your TV programs in the future continue to be of the poorest writing quality. Without proper compensation, the best writers will never be drawn to screenplay writing and you will be stuck in a cycle of endless garbage writing to watch. Support their cause in the hope that it means with more benefits and better compensation, the actual few talented writers that are out there, are drawn to screenplay writing to replace the mediocre ones (who are only there because they can't find pay elesewhere). Or don't support them... and be stuck in perpetual piss writing for decades more in your streaming / tv shows.
I dare say that while your point of view is quite valid, the writers of this show were specifically hired in order to push an agenda/message (woke things and diversity and all that), so they could have been genuinely good writers but even if they had been (which they are not), they got the job in the first place in order to push that narrative not for their skills and they were chose specifically for their political views and willingness to make a mess of things. So while your perspective does apply to decent people who just want to create something (regardless of if they are good writers or not), this is not the main reason for why the writers of this show couldn't do a good job with it, but rather because they were hired specifically in order to push political agendas and smear crap all over the source material.
My favorite part about the "We need to challenge standard beauty standards," was the leading actress going "I would much rather you just call me ugly."
Did she? That’s a relief, I was worried the casting director got away with that backhanded insult without someone telling her off for it. I swear some of these creative types act like they were raised in a barn.
I mean, I don't know in what world Anya Chalotra (Yennefer of Vengerberg) would be considered ugly. Same for pretty much all of the other women in the show.
@@boxer1129 She's good looking, but still a choice to hire her for the role is taking a shit on the source material for the sake of diversity. Netflix is always like "in the book it says she was incredibly pale and shy so we need a black girl that will show everyone girl power"
I am honestly so glad Henry dropped out, most actors wouldn’t even care about the original source material, but the fact that he does and wants to appease the fans by making a show with accurate lore makes him so much more likeable as an actor than any other
I hope the 40k show gets made with him in charge. It won't be perfect as nothing ever is but if it at least *tries* that'll put it leagues ahead of every fan thing made in the last several years. (Cries in WoT).
The point at which it completely died for me (not being the biggest or well versed witcher fan) was after Henry was announced to be leaving, denounced as a misogynist 'gamer' lol and then one of the writers came out and said there were writers who actively hated the original material and that inspired him to create a new rule on his next project that everyone who was writing for it had to be a fan because of how badly the witcher went after moving further and further from the originals
Yea, I watched the first season and was done with it after. Interesting to follow the drama around it though. I wonder how much money they feel they can burn on stuff like this.
That was the exact time I turned off from the show, too. I've never read the books, but now I want to. But the moment Henry's leaving was announced, I knew I wouldn't continue with the show. And then the hit piece the showrunners released on Henry and the other stuff you mentioned. I knew I was not going to reward bad behavior by watching.
By far the funniest thing about the whole thing was that the writers tried to "leak" an email painting Henry as a misogynistic gamer chud who refused to do shirtless scenes and collaberated with one of the other gamer writers to rewrite scenes. But then everyone thought it was hilarious and absolutely justified and loved Cavill even more, so they backtracked and said the source wasn't reliable. Shows just how out of touch with reality these people are
I have been confused about the worldbuilding in this show since the beginning. Literally all of Season 3 I kept asking my husband "where is this again?" I could not keep track of the various countries and had no clue where they were on a map. And I love fantasy and usually keep up with all those things.
Ha! We have just been watching S3 and yes I had no idea who or what was going on from the previous season. I remembered the stuff with Henry taking on the odd monster of the week but that was it. All the different places and politics just merge into one boring forgetable mess.
Same. I actually thought I was being daft. I had no idea what was happening. The funny thing about GOT is that the geography was so perfectly done that I thought it was based on real countries when I first started watching it 😂 my friend was like it's fantasy 😂
The Witcher should have been a slam dunk. They had everything they needed to succeed - a big budget, an A-list actor, a built-in fan base, an established, rich fantasy world from a bestselling author and the wildly-popular video games. It's actually amazing they managed to mess it up that badly.
And more than that it’s not as mainstream as say Lord of the Rings or even Game of Thrones so you had a fairly large devoted core that if you’d given half the effort as Cavil has it would have sang it praises from the rooftops growing it base instead they pissed off half that core and the half that remained spent their time defending their tolerance of it to the other half.
When you look what's happened to Star Wars in less than a decade, is it really that surprising these days. The management for this show is cut from the same cloth as Lucasfilm.
It's been really amazing watching studios take properties with large built in fanbases, and then not only turn them into shows the fans won't want, but actively antagonize said fanbases. Stunning and brave business strategy.
And they are not, as they claim, "empowering women". If they wanted to tell those stories, there's Anne McAffrey's "Pern" series, Wendy Pini's "Elfquest", pretty much everything Mercedes Lackey did... there are acres of classic fantasy tales from and about women with massive followings stretching decades long. But what are they doing? Tearing down men characters and structures _because they are motivated by HATRED toward men._
@@steveouk90126Nice H.P. Lovecraft reference in the name. Super props; I love his "Dream Quest" and other novellas, as well as his horror stories in shorter form. 🥲👍
@@thereconracoon3715 They don't care. We live in a post profit world where China bribes the studio execs to keep churning out shit. The movies make no money. The studio makes no money. The industry crashes and these workers will be out of business and their bosses will laugh at them in their BMWs.
you know what makes me the most depressed about this and many other similar examples? That The Drinker is repeating himself in so many of these videos and then you realise it's not because there's an issue with his videos.. it's because that's how the reality looks like.. all those shitty shows really do repeat the same dumb mistakes and are all so full of themselves.. it's the same old same old so many times over it makes my head hurt
You better start thinking it is not a mistake but the purpose and the design. These people are being paid to do exactly this and that is why they are hired to do this. And they will do this again and again. The goal of this IS to make you depressed AND to destroy and perverse a cultural piece. When you think about it this way things start to make sense. This is not the entertainment, but propaganda from people who hate you. Stop consuming it and go do a work out.
That's actually the main reason that I lost interest in CinemaSins... it wasn't their fault, but their videos were become too repetitive. Even flat earthers have a wider repertoire of sheer stupidity than Hollywood!
No he's repeating himself because he knows shit, but pretends to do so. Otherwise he could stop to bash Brie Larson, but after 5 years their is no change at all.
I'm pleased you mentioned the world building. I watched all three series and I never understood the different factions or locations. It never made any sense. I would also add it had a totally uneven tone with dialogue sounding like it was written by a fourteen year old followed by explosive and well choreographed action. Plus the costumes were also all over the place, some early mediaeval, some Tudor looking, some from the local s&m outfitters and some from the Halloween fancy dress shop. It felt like the show was being written by a dozen different people who never spoke to each other. Shows like the brilliant Gangs of London have one of the most ethnically and culturally diverse casts I've ever seen on British television, but works really well because it fits with the location and the story. Shoehorning different races in fantasy stories can work like in Games of Thrones with the Dothraki and the Unsullied. Enjoyed Henry Cavill as the Witcher and all the cast. The scripts were a total, confused mess. Shame! Shame! Shame! See what I did there 😅
That's exactly how Netflix writes it's shows. A person who pitched a show on Netflix wrote about it. Basically, they would ask writers to each write "some sample episodes". That way, they can churn out many episodes without paying writers. So you end up with a TV show that has no real continuity because the writers Didn't know what the other writers were thinking. This happens in the Umbrella academy as well. The characters act, talk and think very differently. I found myself saying "that person would definitely call you out on that", and they proceed not to. It was crazy
I said it before and I say it again. 2-3 decades ago Cavill would be a star. Nowadays he just has to fight to get some decent movies and shows at every single corner. Guy has it all. Good attitude towards fans, professionalism, looks and charisma.
This is an example where they had a great IP, a great actor, a massive audience and the writers fucked it all up. They had the easiest job in the world bt sticking to and respecting the source material. They let their egos and agendas basically cause the loss of their jobs.
if The Witcher gets another chance in the silver screens considering how adored he was by everyone he will probably be in the list for the role. Unless they put the IP on ice for like 20 years then ig Henry will be too old for the role
@@TimoCruz177 He wasted a few years on this pile of shit, but he'll bounce into something else and be fine The rest of the no-talent cockholes that made the show... well I reckon they might be up the Fecal Creek
One of the strengths of the Witcher Brand is that it's rooted in slavic folklore. The monsters, locations, characters, lore, and even the potions are based on folklore. So when Celtic Elves are black, chinese, etc... it's nearly impossible to wrap your head around it. And if they wanted to cast other races, the Zerrikanians in the lore all have dark skin. Similarly to Dorne in GOT.
But Slavic people are white and therefore evil, you see? And their folklore is consequently also evil and needs to be corrected. Doesn't matter that their name is literally THE origin of word slave/slavery... oh the irony.
It's a well known fact that the Celtic people of ancient Ireland are descended from the Ming Dynasty of ancient China. Take Craggy Island's Chinatown as an example.
Slavic and Celtic are not the same. Celtic is a geographical classification, centered around the ancient British Isles, and sometimes Western Europe. Slavic being Eastern Europe. Not wagging a finger, just an important distinction!
It's hilarious, in GoT they made Salladhor Saan and Areo Hotah black despite the existence of at least a dozen black characters in the books, they cared so little about the source material (and probably knew even less than they cared about it as there's no way they read those books more than 1 or 2 times) and felt the need to 'diversify' it up but continued to ignore the existence of these characters, some of which play a fairly important role in the story like the Red Preist Moqqorro or Chataya the owner of the brothel Tyrion goes to in order to sneak out of it to see Shae (they just casually replaced her with "Roze the whore").
Same thing they did to Wheel of Time. Made the small white rural town super diverse, when they had several other cultures to add diversity. You had to change white characters black, when there were many others described as "coppery skinned" and "skin like charcoal".
@@gjohannes1344 He managed to get more speaking lines like the actual book Geralt instead of just saying "fuck" repeatedly. Plus he was getting a LOT of money per episode.
@@kyuzotatsuya9641 Plus he really wanted it to be good and put a lot of work in it. He didn't want to give up on it but when a fight is lost it's lost. He knew it will only get worse.
100%!!! 7:37 "Make no mistake, Blood Origins is very much the Witcher story they always wanted to tell. A story where diversity and inclusion, female empowerment, and LBGT representation were the overriding priorities, and telling an actual good story that complimented the source material was a distant after-thought."
How hard Henry Cavill tried to stay true to the source material for his character shows a great deal of respect. That he was willing to do so within the ensemble framework constraining him shows an incredible amount of professionalism (A word I don't use lightly because I feel it overused).
The "unlocking fast-travel" is a well earned dig at a lot of fantasy works these days. It's pretty much the best way for the writers to announce "I'm lazy and don't care anymore."
Absolutely every single plot point either: 1: Is caused by Yennefer. 2: Is all about Yennefer. 3: Is expounding on how amazing Yennefer is. It’s the most disgusting self admitted self insert I have ever seen in any medium, this is worse than Kathleen Kennedy by a country mile. Even Tissaia’s *SUICIDE NOTE* is nothing but a ‘you are so amazing! Keep doing what you’re doing!’ It’s sickening.
How else are we, the moronic toxic viewers, supposed to possibly comprehend that Yennefer is awesome without the writers specifically telling us that though?!
@@billy.mandalayhonestly I laughed out loud when known traitor and wanted criminal Yennefer of Vengerberg marched into the conclave, gave a ‘YOU NEED TO DO BETTER MAGES’ speech and genuinely: *EVERYONE CLAPPED* 😂😂😂
I feel bad for that actress though, she did an alright job. Just got caught in the middle of Lauren “yass queen”-ing the hell out of the source material
When you adapt a book into a series, you usually have actors who have read the book before, or haven't. Cavill was a rare gem because he didn't just read the books. He was a FAN living his dream and we all enjoyed the first season as he lived that dream. He was so right to turn his back on Netflix when it was clear they wanted to deviate from the books.
Henry to me seems like someone who would have done well on the set of LotR. I remember interviews with the actors of that cast saying that they had all read the books and appreciated the world to some degree. It seemed like Henry was the only one to do that for The Witcher world. Sad, tragic way this show was handled
I don’t feel bad for him. He seems to be good at dusting his hands off and doing his own thing. I don’t think the failure of the show taints his view of the source material. That being said, we will see how War Hammer turns out. That’s his baby.
Out of all the beautiful stories this weird woke movement has destroyed, I'm the saddest about The Witcher. I've read all the books, played all the games twice. This could have been my favorite film series of all time. But now 😢 I'm not even going to finish season 3. I'm out...
He seems to have a great deal more sense than most actors. I hope he flies high and long. Maybe Hollywood will recover from this insane era of wokeness and give him some good parts to play before he dies of old age.
When the series launched, wasn't it the most successful show Netflix ever released? The show runners sure fumbled that ball. Hopefully they change careers.
The ideologies that caused the fumbling of the show are an intrinsic part of the staff they hire. Hardwired into them. Things will only get worse, before they get better.
An iconic display of letting power and success going to your head. Writers and runners were not humbled by their success, and felt that they had the Midas touch. Turns out it was delusions of grandeur.
Damn shame. Henry really captures Geralt in every respect and understands the world because he genuinely loves it. He could and should have been their best resource, but they blew it.
As one of the many people who read the books because of the Witcher games, I would say that while Yennifer mostly exists to compare and contrast with Geralt though the Witcher Cycle itself becomes less about Geralt and more about Ciri as the story progresses. If they had stayed true to the source material, they would have had a story that ultimately focused on a young woman going from being a McGuffin to the protagonist as the story progresses. Ciri is prophesized to have incredibly powerful offspring, and that is the only thing about her that most characters in the story care about. Geralt and Yennifer both resent the fact that they have been made sterile, and both eventually become surrogate parents to Ciri and ultimately teach her that relationships don't have to be cynically transactional, while also giving her the strength to become the active master of her own destiny instead of a passive victim of it. The books already had a strong message about female empowerment, but since they did not emasculate the men, the show writers had to completely abandon them. Also, can I say, I really hate what the show did to Ciri's grandmother, Calanthe. In trying to make the freakin' "Lion of Cintra" more of a "girl boss" they somehow managed to make the most feared and respected ruler in the entire book series look like a weak and incompetent sop to feminists.
Feminist writing creativity ends at “strong woman”. They cant comprehend anything beyond that, simply because they base their entire worldview off of “power”.
Much respect to someone who dug the source material (terrific books), this was a perfect overview and sweet analysis. :) May the series that could've been live in our dreams.
This show should have been an easy knock out of the park. They had a whole world pre-built for them with characters and lore to showcase, a star fully committed to the lead role, solid costumes and sets, decent enough effects budget, an excited fan-base eagerly awaiting the first episode, a whole crowd of people tiring of superhero content and looking for something new, and a lack of competition from any similarly themed shows coming out at the same time. This should have thrived.
It’s a real shame too because this show had so much promise but that’s what happens when directors and writers think their ideas are better than the source material
I agree. Season one wasn’t perfect but good enough. Season two you could tell it wasn’t about the witcher anymore and the world building just wasn’t there. Season three seemed to have no real substance at all.
@@ambrosia5356season 1 was still garbage. It was a feminist Harry Potter lol. I love this show. As a big witcher fan, it was fun to watch and trash the show.
I finished season 1 episode 1 and couldnt force myself to watch episode 2. Cavil was the only redeeming feature but everything else was so bad i had no interest in continuing
The more I learn about Cavill, the more I like him. Yeah, he's this chiseled, good-looking successful Hollywood actor, but he's also a massive nerd and puts in the work for his roles. Mad respect to him for quitting a role he clearly loved due to artistic integrity. It's all good. This ain't the first time Geralt's been killed. Good stories never truly die.
I remember not knowing anything about him and seeing his interviews on how badly he wanted the Witcher role and he gained a lot of respect in my book. He even defended the fans at a time the show runners were denouncing them.
It's the fact he's a massive nerd and you don't expect him to be if you didn't know anything about him aside from his appearance. He looks like he could have the typical rich good looking douchebag personality but he's the complete opposite of it. A true Chad.
I don't know why you'd include 'chiseled' and 'good looking' here. Neither of those qualities indicate if a person is likeable or not, or a nerd for that matter.
@@roryfitzpatrick3571 Well, they are both objectively true things. I mean, he's not attractive to me personally, but one can see others find him that way.
@@mtcelticharperOut of all the people, Netflix thought it was wise to give it to Greta Gerwig to be adapted. At this point I am pretty sure they are intentionally trying to destroy classic works.
Don't hate modern audiences, they didn't do a damn thing, Hate the Marxist feminist studies majors who get nepotism jobs in entertainment and force their politics into every aspect of every project despite the negative effects their beliefs have on the paying customers. The audience didn't do shit wrong.
It would be so nice if in 10 years henry cavil just decides to make the show himself, and casts correctly, sticks to the lore like he wanted, tells the stories in the books while also slaying monsters and doing fun side quests. Wont ever happen but one can dream. Hes the perfect Geralt, will still be a decade from now. Champion of the Nerds, you are too good for us Henry.
I've been saying this for a coupla years now:- IF ONLY there was a word for when (IF) a production company ACTUALLY decided to STICK TO the BOOKS/GAMES, CHARACTERS, STORIES AND LORE, even getting Cavill on board saying HE ALSO had input into how it was done, and ACTUALLY MAKING A DECENT VERSION of this franchise... Oh yeah.... R E B O O T ! ! ! ! GOD, JUST THINK... IF THIS HAPPENED..... 🐍HISSSSSRICH (and cohorts) would see and be embarrased at how doing what they did (changing elements and details they did) FUCKED UP what COULD VERY WELL HAVE BEEN A HUGELY SUCCESSFUL AND... LUCRATIVE franchise for them... Like, say, oooh I dunno... Their own GOT!! But no... We don't get nice things, or even when it looks like we do, we don't get nice things for long... 😒😒😠😠 😎🇬🇧
Ive read and loved the books as teenager, some 20+ years ago. I played and loved the games, some 10+ years ago. Ive watched half of e01 of season 1 and was instantly aware how they butchered my boy.
Very similar backgroud here, although I managed throught the entire first episode - mostly because I thought those first scenes were just some kind of practical joke on the audience, and the actual show would start at some point. Re-reading the books afterwards helped me feel clean again.
Witcher fan since 3 years ago, I started reading the books before playing the games then watching the show, the second they made Cahir a raging psychopath I knew there was something wrong
They had the PERFECT GAME, the visuals, the settings, the atmosphere, the music, the looks, the feels.. the game deliver it all for them on a platter.. they have AMAZING books, just pick a story and let it reap.. the had the PERFECT actor.. who knows the game and the books.. they just had to deliver a decent script, and to cast some decent actors .. and they freaking ruined EVERYTHING... how dumb, how idiotic one can be to screw up on such gigantic proportions?
@@saikousan.... Yes. The game would have been a one huge concept art for the show for how the things should look in general. But no. They went with Nilfgaardian crotch armor and so on...
@@StuSaville We have to remember that this is the same company that made Rings of Power and they have their own set of brainless morons at PR controlling and accepting the content they deliver. I hope Cavill have the full control in his contract, or they're just going to use his name to earn brownie points with a certain audience.
Inb4 the emperor of man will be emperor of person a black transgender strong independent woman who hates evil straight white spacenazis but loves all other races and all of the infinite genders of the universe, it will have a army of queermarines dressed in powergimpsuit armor and they will prance around the universe forcefully turning people trans and gay.
What's hard to understand is how show after show after is suffering the same fate--- Henry Cavill was the reason I watched and it was clear his role was being diminished over time in a kind of bait and switch. Have a successful show with male lead character? Can't have that. Better to ruin the IP than allow such a travesty of social justice. Mando suffered the same fate and Obi-Wan was bait and switch from the get go-- I can't even remember who the show was supposed to be about or why Leia had any part of it. It's also interesting Netflix, Disney, Amazon, perhaps Apple (don't really watch) are all making the same error. I'm more than happy to let you do the watching going forward. Henry made the right call. Clearly, a man of character willing to walk away from a paycheck rather than sacrifice his integrity. Bravo.
It really seems like the entertainment industry has forgotten that they're supposed to be making things for audiences to enjoy - not things for themselves to feel virtuous.
Massive Witcher fan. Read all the books and played all the games, which, despite Sapkowski's lamentations, were incredible and respected the source material. Naturally, I was excited when it was announced that my favourite fantasy was being made into a TV show. Then I saw that it was Netflix, then I saw the production crew, then I read some of their posts. I got worried but still held on to a faint hope. Checked out half way through season 1 when it was clear it wasn't going to be anything like the books and not even close to a "faithful adaptation". Hearing and seeing all the salt from the production crew over the criticism they received made me glad I didn't waste any more of my time. I was honestly surprised the show made it past Season 2 to be honest.
only reason why Sapkowski cried about games so much is because he underestimated games as medium. He is overhyped intelectual who thinks gamers are idiots and he is above them. He signed crappy deal because he thought nobody will care. And after his realisation that he missed diamond opportunity he actually wanted took case to court (even if he had zero chance to win case). To put into perspective: he signed deal where he passed licence for games for merely 10 000 dollars.
For someone like me who has never read any of the books or played any of the games, is the show still worth watching if I don't know anything about the original source material and want to watch something new?
This is exactly my experience with it, with the exception that my wife loved the costumes so we finished the first season, at which point she 'noped' out of it too. You can't make a non-chronological show without anchoring the audience, and the 'diverse' cast shot that concept in the foot.
Imagine having whole story, lore and character details neatly served to you on a silver platter. Imagine having a popular lead actor always geeking out about every aspect of your production, offering suggestions and advice to keep everything as faithful to source material as possible. Imagine having a large, dedicated fanbase that would be happy to help you succeed, free of charge, by sending casting advices, script suggestions, even whole dialogues written for the purpose of the show. Finally, imagine that all you have to do in order to make something wonderful is to decide which parts of the source material are either non essential and can be skipped or you can present them in more efficient way (after all, the picture is often worth a thousand words). Shiteflix, you done goofed. Big time.
@@claytongehrke2176 Not sure were you got this idea from. As far as I know Star Wars is not directly based on any book series or game franchise. That being said, I'm sure SW fanbase is no less passionate about Lucas's works than Witcher's fans about Sapkowski's novels. And unfortunately for both fandoms, Hollywood decided to give all the production powers to people with lower than room temperature IQ.
The worst part of all of this is that there is space for diversity within the Witcher canon. Zerrikania is matriarchal. Redania is super concerned with caste. Ofir is a kingdom that seems to be loosely based off of some Middle Eastern/ North African trading nations. They kind of did this when they looked at how sorceresses are simultaneously very powerful and influential but still ultimately subservient to their king, but I would have liked to see a deeper exploration. I always found it interesting in the games how different items come from different regions, such as certain places being known for their particular alcohol or weapons. Instead of having Geralt with the same two swords and generic sets of armour, they could have him, for example, go to Mahakam and get high quality weapons from a dwarf. Or let some sorceress at a ball complain about the wine from some faraway region. The problem is not diversity, its that diversity is being so poorly executed that it is working against the world building when it could be doing the opposite.
They think diversity is everything in the same place at the same time. That's the logical flaw. If everyone is the same everywhere there is NO diversity at all.
The problem is diversity for diversity's sake. Not every show needs to have a diverse cast. It all has to work for the story. Instead, modern studios work the other way around. Diverse cast first, then whatever shit story they can conjure up.
Agreed. However, to make regions distinct would also mean making them "not diverse" within those regions and "stereotyping" the people from those regions. Which is anathema to Diversity for diversity sake.
The show runners basically said they didn't read the books or play the games so its quite ironic that they could have read them and found out there was already diversity baked into the lore.
He's clearly the wrong sex, colour and sexuality to be given complete power and so it'd be sexist, racist and genderist to give it to someone who looks like him as it's mandatory to discriminate based on sex, colour and sexuality.
I think the problem that I'm experiencing with fantasy shows is that people try to build fantasy worlds that are based on historical elements like the medieval, renaissance, or ancient periods, but with modern tropes. It just straight up conflicts with each other, and no one is respecting the source material as a result. These people are incapable of writing a fantasy world without medieval/renaissance influence so they just rip off source material and inject their agendas. It's so blatant that it disrespects the story.
It's not even the tropes that hirt a story so much. My biggest gripe with woke shows is that they will spare no expense in crafting the settings, but omit the fact that the physical features of the cast is also part of the setting. The idea is as ludicrous as making a movie about medieval China and have the imperial palace be built in neogothic.
Yeah it always looks like a california suburb... Mediëval poland? california! Fantasy steam punk world? california! Space station in the far future? california! Always the same "diverse" strong "females" everywhere, always cringy wana be rebel kids everywhere, always some soy infused guy around every corner...
They can't let you just enjoy the source material or anything which is historically accurate because both good storytelling and reality are antithetical to 'the message.' It's not that they're incapable, it's that they think it's their job to engineer society to woke specifications.
@@casper_z1259The Dragon Prince is guilty of this in my opinion. They kinda get away with it in the sense that humanity was displaced long ago, but by virtue of genetics (and mixing together in the name of survival) nearly every peasant should resemble each other in terms of physical looks. As humanity was displaced hundreds of years ago. So skin tone, facial features, eye color, etc. should all be similar. Yet the people of Katolis look as suspiciously diverse as down town New York. Every other people group in the world though? Human or otherwise? Yeah, similar features. So right out the gate the world building is a mess based on the look of the people alone. Lots of tv shows make this faux pas in the name of the writers personal politics, and we’re expected not to notice.
I like to write myself, so I visit a lot of writing forums and websites, and the woke ideology is everywhere. I've read so many manuscripts where the whole thing is obviously just a clown car for the author's modern political views...written in a fantasy world for some reason. What is the point of writing a fantasy book if you're just going to overtly cram it full of modern politics that the average person is tired of dealing with here and now. Totally ignores the whole point of the genre. It's hard to understand how someone can be so stupid to not realize this but many of these writers really believe they are doing something groundbreaking, even if they have hundreds of examples of the pros doing exactly what they are doing, and getting woke and going broke in the process. In reality, they are cultural bottom feeders, digesting the waste from those above them and regurgitating it. As a result, what they end up creating is a ham-fisted struggle session that nobody will want to read or remember. At this point in the political landscape, I think readers can recognize it for what it is as soon as they see it. Propaganda. This ideology's M.O. has always been to infiltrate institutions and mediums. Wear them like skin suits. Another empty vessel, another trojan horse for the real goal. THE MESSAGE.
but they are still very successful with it, that is the sad reality...we have the same in gaming, look at the new fifa...they will be successful with that nonsense because streamer will hype it and be like, "this is fine" and kids follow
Hollywood as a whole has done this to basically everything. Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Lord of the Rings, Star Trek, James Bond, all. Big brand IPs with built in fan bases destroyed for the cause of "The Message".
@@sanji1259agreed 100%! Gaming is actually worse tbh because its literally the same online trash every year, same game, different title. And people buy it every year by the millions. Thank our lucky stars for companies like FromSoft that still do things 'their way' and original, and release finished games that require skill to finish. Instead of the EA/Blizzard/Bungie cash trash grabs we see be regurgitated year on year
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He has much better takes and gets to the point faster than most reviewers. I can't even go to redlettermedia anymore which used to be my go to, they have become detached from your average viewer and they like to push "mainstream media narratives" when it comes to critiques of movies or new releases that they don't bother watching (sound of freedom).
With Game ofThrones, the only reason we really knew geography in the first few episodes (or really at all for that matter) was because of the map on the opening credits/intro, not the writing or world building.
I recently read an article where the producers tried to say that they had to move away from the lore to make things simpler for "American audiences." That is so much BS. When you start blaming the audience for your failings, especially when you start dumbing down and modifying the actual source material, you're not gonna have a good outcome.
It is amazing. Everyone on Poland is surprised, that our old Witcher show is actually much better. CGI was awful, but the screenplay and acting was much much better.
It amazes me when people think they know better than the material that they are ripping off. The author created an amazing work, they literally had a walking wikipedia on it that they could use and they managed to completely mess it up. It's really sad honestly
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Henry Cavill as Geralt was like the stamp of quality of the show; people only got hyped because they knew that there was a fan of the IP in the main role of the series. Without Cavill as the protagonist, no one would even have expected the damn series to be good in the first place.
and in case anyone reading your comment was wondering, I'd like to add that of course this not at all limited to "woke" ideas. a laughable example for something completely different politically would be the vast majority of overly religious/faith-based films that are barely interested in telling an interesting story with fleshed out characters and instead are mostly about trying to convey their spiritual beliefs.
Exactly. Studios/Media hijack known and beloved books, movies, series, and characters as vehicles to sell their agenda. They then reshape and ruin all the elements that made those stories and characters great. They've been doing it now for a decade+ and it's quite Orwellian but very obvious to many.
and interestingly, the opposite works as well. like, I can easily imagine a movie being very good +despite+ having an underlying political theme (emphasis on "underlying") that I vastly disagree with. (which is also how I'd say it's possible to differentiate between people who really want to see good movies or left/right activists who +mostly+ want to about to make the political/social ideas the point of discussion. and just so no one misunderstands me: it's of course perfectly fine to talk about and discuss the themes of art, and maybe even more interesting if one disagrees those. but it's the not the only merit of it. again, as much as it pains the aforementioned activists, a facist might still write a great novel. and a far left communist might still record a great song)
@@Remus28 CDPR is not the same company it used to be. Now they have to follow ESG score rules and that is massive red flag for me and all hype for the new game was instantly gone.
@@user-ko3tv7jl2r With diversity casting rules Hollywood will _never_ be able to do a faithful adaptation. Someone would have to buy the rights and produce a Witcher series that’s far from Ieftists and their subversive buII$#!t.
Cavil was the only one trying to keep the insane writers on track with the books. He is a Witcher fan like the rest of us, so when he got the boot, it was like kicking out all the fans of the original material. For fans of the Witcher books and games, the show was over once Henry Cavil left the set for the last time.
Id argue many of the issues Drinker rattles off existed in season 1, I am not big into the lore of the witcher, I played the second game a bit, it was cool, but uh, at the end of it all, the show was just kinda boring, so many arcs in the first few episodes had dillemas worthy of at least two seasons of unpackaging, instead we get an any% speedrun of the plot hooks like its some degenerate like yourself DMing a game of DND, degenerates like you belong on a cross, hunting permits ought to be issued for you, and killing you with fire is a joke, honorary furry 😂❤ Its just a joke, bruuh😂 dont be thin skinned, your dignity and sense of self worth is not a thing you are entitled to anywhere you try to go on the internet😂 This is a gift of perspective, imagine that joke for 15 years at your expense. Your time begins now, we start by calling CPS because we feel bad for your kids
Thank you for this analysis. I'm a fan of "The Witcher" book series; I know these books almost by heart, and I was really, really looking forward to someone worthy adapting them into a screen version. Because this story deserves a good adaptation. Sapkowski wrote a great saga with complex characters, a well-thought-out world, and clear geography, where European cities and locations are easily recognizable. I feel like the showrunners simply lacked the education to understand what this story is about. You draw parallels to compare it to Game of Thrones, and that's right. The source material also has such parallels. Game of Thrones is built on the War of the Roses and the story of Richard III. Almost all events and characters in Game of Thrones have real prototypes from real European history. And The Witcher is built on the legend of King Arthur. Not just on the legend, but specifically on the rendition by Thomas Malory. And, I'm afraid, the showrunners haven't read Malory. Plus, of course, Eastern European mythology, about which the creators of the series also have a very vague idea. However, I doubt they have read all eight volumes of Sapkowski's saga. Andrzej Sapkowski wrote an absolutely cinematic work that could have been wonderfully adapted and made into a cult show. But they squandered it so ineptly.
A. S. wrote about places he knew and experienced. Polish countryside and village life. He made these seem real, because they are real. He wrote about the stories he heard and which he read. Polish Folklore and Legends. He gathered Myths from Eastern Europe and some from the West. 3 Dimensional Fantasy that is almost believable. Unfortunately the West entertainment pimps only care about $$$. These morons got their claws into the goose that lays golden eggs and wrung its neck to get the sht out of it. They got their sht. - Perhaps, in the near future, a Polish director will decide to create an East European version. Something for intelligent European audiences.
Thank you for this comment, they had it all, political entrigue, an amazingly complex world, adventure, magic, a likeable protagonist often faced witch challenging moral decisions. I was skeptical wen I first saw Geralt being a silent brute, if anything he is cultured and insightful. I remember in the last wish the standalone stories had chapters in between while Geralt was recovering from the striga attack, and those chapters had the most interesting conversations and perfectly set up the word and Geralts state of mind. He should be around 80 and 100, in a word with such low life expectancy and illiteracy he is essentially a wise scholar, and we get to see this in the books and some in the games too, but the show made him look almost dumb.
Initially, I was highly skeptical of Henry Cavill playing Geralt but the integrity he displayed by refusing to be a part of the writers show of contempt for the fans and the IP itself proved to me that he was the only man for the job. Can’t wait to see what he does with his upcoming 40K project
Never have I been so happy to be so wrong about something. Cavill won me over than I ever could have imagined and I gotta give the man oodles of credit. Super stoked for what he will hopefully be able to do with his Warhammer project. I never got into 40k but this will give the perfect opportunity to try
I think that might be my favorite part of this whole debacle. Yes, fans were upset with Cavill's casting and the shills got to scream I told you so when the fan opinion changed. And yet, the fans who readily admitted they were wrong got the last laugh as these shills drove him away, as well as all the people who actually watched the show. Just goes to show one side at least has the common decency to admit when they made a mistake; we will never see that from the shills or the people making this recent filth who drove Cavill out.
I was pretty optimistic about him just because I knew prior that he was a big fan of the series. However, I thought that because of him they would stay pretty true to the series but apparently he didn’t have much control over that
I actually started out skeptical as well. I personally thought at the time another actor (Zach McGowan) fit the build of Geralt better being rugged and made to look distrusted by people, fitting Geralt Witcher 1 & 2 vibes. But Cavill did well and his transformation into Geralt was great to see. It’s just the show runners and writing room consistently shutting the bed and killing this whole show.
I just hope said 40K project does not meet the same fate. However: GW is highly protective of their IP, so I guess there are some arrangements in the background to keep it consistent with previous lore and canon. We can but hope...
The worst part about this is that it really was an open goal. Unlike what would become of Game of Thrones, these showrunners had all of the setting and story material they could ever need laid out right in front of them in the form of the books. It was a free win, and they fucked it.
Ironically, the GOT showrunners probably wouldn't have screwed it up. They may have been hacks, but they were smart enough to realize that what they were adapting was written by someone smarter and better at it than them and there's nothing wrong with a faithful adaptation. Unfortunately for them, they ran out of material and their actual writing skills showed.
They kicked at the open goal, but turned around to gloat to their teammates, only for the ball to ricochet off the crossbar and beam them in the back of the head. Then HBO recovered the ball, dribbled it downfield and kicked it right in.
Totally agree, said it in another comment but they had great books and a GOTY to look at and take direct, great monsters and stories from. The fact they thought they knew better and still gave everyone the middle finger shows how horrible this entire thing has fallen.
The plot is confusing. I never read the books but basically each kingdom fighting for power and they're all looking for Ciri who is the most powerful mage.
I definitely thought the geography problems detracted from the show. There was just no sign of where we were and how far it was from other places. But even worse for me were the power levels of the different principal individuals. Like, what could the magic users do, and how often? In season two a monster attacked the stronghold where many witchers had taken residence. I thought "Haha, bad move monster! These guys live for fights like the one you picked!" But noo, witchers started dropping like Star Trek redshirts. I just had to look at it and be like "If you say so, show" and accept that I had no idea who could beat whom with what. In season 1 the monsters defeated by Geralt seemed pretty serious. After that his adversaries didn't seem more serious. He just seemed nerfed. Magic just did whatever it needed to in order for the plotpoints to happen. I haven't read the books so maybe it's a problem there, but in the games, the geography and power levels are super clear so it's clear what the stakes are when x fights y.
And then in Season 3, a half-dead Ciri beats a giant desert monster to death with a piece of its own armor plate because she gets slightly pissed off. In a long, boring episode, one of only two that were released, that's clearly trying to do some character building for her, but I'm still not sure what? While Geralt lies half-dead because some wizard we don't really give a toss about beat him a bit with a stick. What a criminal waste of a show, source material and cast.
To be fair, the books don't have a hard magic system and the limitations of sorcerers aren't clear at all. Which in the story work fine because we mainly follow non-magic users (Geralt only knows minor spells which he barely use, those are actually well defined. As for Yennefer, the focus isn't on her magical abilities). But if you want to make a show and promote a powerful sorceress to protagonist and have her do lot of fighting, wyou need to rethink carefully.
@@otrof6203yeah vilgefortz seemed pretty badass in the books, being an accomplished sorcerer and soldier and all. I believe even Geralt thought he would get beaten to shit if he had to fight him
Cavill: "Hey, maybe we should try to have the show follow the books better." Netflix: "No. Go pound sand. We'll do whatever we want cause the books are stupid." Cavill: "Okay. Sayonara jackasses." Netflix: *Shocked Pikachu Face.*
I feel legitimately sad for Henry with how all of this turned out. I really hope his Warhammer 40k show pans out well, he's got far more heart than most of Hollywood put together and seeing him fight uphill just to make something he knows the fans actually want is extremely frustrating.
@@galidornelkenmeer Games workshop for all its faults won't let that happen, they are over protective of their IP. they know what's happening and are in their own words "only interested in making money" they know woke doesn't sell.
The Witcher would’ve worked if season 1 was episodic having Gerald facing a new problem/ new job in a new town every episode. It would’ve highlighted and differentiated the differences of each faction on top of exploring unique regions
Man, they had a potential GOT like goldmine with this franchise but managed to monumentally destroy it. A story rich lore and a perfect casting of Geralt, where the actor is a fan and initially treated it as a passion project. Unfortunately the writers/activists knew better than the source material and the fans.
@@thenamesianna I'd still be bitter because Cavill really surprised me, albeit he's built more like the game Geralt than the books but he was fantastic. It will be a hard sell for anyone else to play him.
You hit the nail on the head with Blood Origin - this was an open window into the real thought process and goals behind the writers. They absolutely revealed their true intentions when they were allowed to do whatever they wanted with that one.
It's a shame how things turned out for this show. It started with everything to succeed, the perfect cast for the protagonist and a whole fandom awaiting this franchise to finally be explored, along with a totally new public to aim for. And here we are now.....
Who knew hiring people who hate the source material was a bad idea. Personally, Im shocked.
Culture War
Indeed. A total shock. Its not like there are dozens of others franchises that suffered same fate due to same approach. Ohh, wait...
And they'll do it again and again because they're too arrogant to learn their lesson the first time.
They destroyed Star Wars, they destroyed Star Trek. They destroyed The Witcher. They even destroyed the Lord of the Rings.
This people only destroy never create anything of value.
@@DanielBlak Why should they? They are still getting paid.
Imagine being Henry Cavill, nerd enough to tell them they were making a mistake going in the direction they did, humble enough not to take himself too seriously and respect the fans, rich enough to be able to walk away from projects he doesn't agree with because he doesn't need the money and boss enough to tell his current employers to go suck rocks and f**k right off. Kudos to this man.
He's an inspiration to everybody to be honest. Even if you don't make a much money as him you can still relate to his thought process, because it's not about the money
I hope his Warhammer 40k project is a success and it will be a huge middle finger to the fools who think not following the source material is ok.
An aims to make a 40k TV show!!
His description of his position within the Witcher season 3 is a hugely respectful and poignant warning, he easily could have what on everyone and everything but no, he has too much class.
Wasn't he constantly reading and re-reading the books during filming breaks or something to try to better understand the character?
The literally had their own GoT series right in their hands with an actor who LOVES the source material, and is deeply invested in the character. It's a DREAM acquisition. The fact that Daftflix managed to screw this up just goes to show how absolutely inept, stupid, and vapid these armchair activists are. They deserve this, but man do I feel bad for Cavil.
Shoot, Henry's going to be just fine.
exactly.
The point isn't whether Henry will be fine or not. The point is he was working on a project he was invested in, had the potential to be really good, but it was runined by an arrogant bunch of assholes who only wanted to parasitically infest an IP they could use to push... the message. I, for one, can't wait for AI to replace a vast swathe of hollywood acters/writers (activists). They can learn to fucking code..
Cavill had a duty to do due diligence before signing up. In fact, _any_ actor with star power in today's Hollywood is required to do deep, intense, due diligence because so many fcuking wokesters are running around pretending to be creative people.
Cavill should have ensured that the writers were as in love with, and passionate about the source material as himself, and he for sure should have had final say on the script. In lieu of either of these preconditions, he would have saved himself a boatload of angst and disappointment.
Fuck around and find out. He fucked around, he found out.
He'll be fine. Most of his fans love him even more for walking away when they continued to double down on disregarding the lore.
The more Cavil walks away from titles the more of my nerd-hero he becomes.
I keep imagining him as a space marine or a space wolf in a 40k adaptation. God damn that would rule
@@loganknoll You know I would absolutely love that too ... but I'm so very afraid of Warhammer 40k suffering the same bullshit the Witcher, LotR etc suffered. I'm leggit worried.
@@zejulius58Cavill is the executive producer on the project and clearly he cares about the franchise
@@zejulius58Cavill is executive producer on the 40K show, and that IP is his favorite, as stated in multiple interviews he’s done. By hook or by crook, he’ll at least show the right aesthetics and stay faithful to the lore. I also have a feeling that he’ll go through a lot of writers until he finds some that actually respect the source material.
Not only do you have Cavill as executive producer but, per information released by Games Workshop, the writers that are being approached are familiar with the setting
Plus Games Workshop themselves have retained input regarding creative guidelines for the shows and it is well known how fiercely they protect their IP
I remember when I was a little girl, my grandmother told me "I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was a witcher."
Lol
So true, so true!!!
THAT'S the comment i was searching without knowing. Thank you, sir.
My grandma told me she was Irish...Clea O’Patrick.😅
@@nhmooytis7058 there were actually Celts settled in Egypt during Ptolemaic dynasty so yeah Irish can claim Cleopatra at least as blacks 😀😀
Imagine having an established IP, an excited fan base eager for your work & Henry Cavill going above & beyond to help you make a great product… and then failing this hard. It’s genuinely impressive
Be woke, be impressive. :)
The show is actually good. Especially season 3. The plottwist about Vilgefortz being evil and working with Nilfgaard is really good.
Women wanting to be woke. Privileged women hired via nepotism. Shocking they create crap..
@@ERMOONSaladino9lmao nice bait there buddy
Have you ever heard of a TV show called.....Halo?
Hundreds of thousands of people signed the "Keep Henry, sack the writers" petition and they _still_ couldn't see past their own reflections to what the fans wanted!
Nobody listens especially to petitions, especially nowadays.
They don't care about the fans they care about their message. And if they came get their message across they will trash the IP. They have done this with star wars Marvel and harry potter.
@michaelhouk7603 exactly this, and they see the material as beneath them. The sooner we realize that 98% of hollywood hates the source material they're given, hates the IPs they're forced to work with, etc. The sooner they stop trying to bastardize it because they'll either have nothing to make, no one to watch it, and no money backing them. At that point they will have to be fans, they will have to find funding, they will have to take it seriously, or they will surely be working as a receipt checker at walmart.
Its not really about the money either, its about the agenda. Clown world 🤡
Pretty optimistic of u to think these bozos wud think what fans want vs what they believe in🤌🏼
Imagine how excited Henry must have felt when he got the role, like a childhood dream come true. To get the chance to play a character you absolutely love and to introduce the world of the witcher to a new bigger fanbase. And then it goes so far that he chooses to leave the show because he could not keep up anymore with the writers bullshit. I feel so sorry for him.
Ngl I feel like he'd been so unfortunate with the people he works with on the projects he'd been a part of: BvM, Witcher and the unfinished vision that was MoS. I actually quite enjoyed the modern serious interpretation of the Superman and I think he did a very good job at that as he usually does. Just such a shame that bad writing, trending riding and greedy execs ruined so many things
Well said. Except none of this was accidental, but Culture War. This is exactly what happened [ 5:45 ] despite those ppl trying to blame the fans. Hiring people who abhor the source material and the values and ideas it embodies, mocking and bullying and humiliating Cavill and Sapkowski and the whole Witcher community, none of that was accidental, at all.
It's just the same as what they did to TLoTR with that revolting Amazon show. [ 7:17 ]
Wouldn’t it have been the exact opposite? I remember Cavill stating in an interview that he was looking to _personally_ purchase the rights for a Witcher show, but Netflix swooped in before he could finalize his stuff
As soon as he sae the showrunner was a chick, he should have bailed. Women have such open disdain for anything that takes men’s attention away from them.
They hate how little it takes to make us happy
@@Thorn_416Stop generalizing like that. I'm a girl and I like Geralt much more than Yennefer, I'm unhappy with how they took his character's significance away. Disrespecting the source material that you're in charge of is a very bad move. The showrunner and the circle of creators that she hadn't driven away and that support this mess are annoying and should be ashamed of themselves, but it's not every woman that does that.
I dislike it when people demand more women in media just because they're women and I'm tired of it, but then there's people like you. Extremes on both sides. You both should look into a more moderate look on life, not everything is black and white.
I respect Henry Cavil so much more for standing up to the executives and walking away.
He's actually an actor, not just some Hollywood shill who would sell his soul for pennies. The man has actual principles
He walked away because he got his superman role back.
@@gamingdragon1356 did he? i thought james gunn had another idea for superman and that's not him.
@@ikhwaneivan4303 That was after he quit the show.
Imagine having Henry as your lead protagonist and you choose girl power instead. LMAO.
If I was the actress for Yennifer and I was told that the reason for my casting was not because of my talent or similar appearance to the character but to challenge beauty standards, I would be insulted.
It’s sad bc you can tell she has dropped 15lbs since the first season trying to get the sharper features of Yennifer’s look. She was miscast- she doesn’t have chemistry with Henry, she doesn’t have the commanding presence that Yennifer has in the books, and she doesn’t match the look. It’s unfortunate bc she is a good actress, she is absolutely beautiful, and could have easily played one of the other mages. Now, she is tied to this shit show.
TBH though, she does have a nice rack, even as a hunchback. I only watched S1 and saw no reason to watch more.
yeah but the paycheck would soothe your wounds
@@poki580 There's a difference between paychecks soothing wounds or sell out your soul. I think Anya is seriously contemplating her life choices right now.
Imho, the actress who played Yennifer may as well be Megan Markle, exchangeable garbage.
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Just the decision to RESPECTFULLY step away from this abomination has earned Henry Cavill a massive respect from me. What a guy.
This is what needs to happen in today's world. Rise up, sheeple!
Yeah, he made his career with that move.
Now people respect him, because he respected the source material, and turned his back on ridiculous political fashion brainwashing.
Now let's have him as Bond! Maybe he can pull that out of the ubend and make them respect the source material a bit better!
@@paulwilson6357 Awesome! A manly, bitch-slappin' tough guy Bond! I'm stoked! 😎
Not that it came with any problem, aside sentimental one. He's in demand, popular, rich enough not to care.
As someone who's just watched the third season last week, it's glaring how much the creative team resents Henry.
He almost never appears, when he is there, he is not essential to the plot developement and he is overall treated like pure muscle with no input or real impact. He is there to be the grunt who does the phisically taxing work Yennefer and Ciri wont or to serve as a distraction.
it just hurts to watch and it made me support Henry that much more.
I am a fan of Witcher book series, in the original Polish edition, mostly for the slightly cynical and ironic sense of humor that the Author, mr Sapkowski, implemented while mocking the fairy tales he used as inspirations for his short stories about the Witcher.
It was so wildly popular in the Nineties that a movie and TV series, a short one, were made! The joke? Producers tried to be faithful to the source material and actors took their jobs seriously. Witcher was played by Michael Żebrowski, who played his part well enough. It was a unintended disaster.
I like mr Cavil's acting as a Witcher slightly better though. The rest of this Netflix show is an abomination that managed to "eclipse" the polish first tries on putting those books on the TV screen.
The biggest joke? Comparably, the polish productions used shoe-string budget and the then trending actors involved played the part mostly out of fondness for the then wildly popular book series. Fanbase kinda hated Cirilla when she was introduced in the Five Book series, though. She "stole the show" and Witcher was shown ambiguously as bleeding out on Jennefer's knees while she tries to magic-surgery him to stay with her.
Books never tell if he survived his stint as "shonen hero" ... wich is where Game Makers took up and made sure that in their Game World, the White Wolf survived the unfortunate close meeting with farming fork trough the guts.
I hadn't played the games, first traumatic encounter with movie-ising of Witcher discouraged me from playing a video game within the Witcherverse. Video games are taking liberties, even necessary ones so gameplay can happen, and it irks me greatly with Witcher wich was one of my fond teenagerhood memories.
By that I mean the short stories, two tomes of them, each easily a movie-format in my opinion but what do I know!
So here are my opinions from being forced to watch first season, by my niece who's fan of mr Cavil. Who frankly speaking was the only reason I endured at all.
Geralt - Mr Cavil's portrayal of him was much younger and less cynical/dissapointed with people being dicks around him. More of how you would imagine young and idealistic Geralt. Not enough scars both physical from Witcher jobs and mental from being ~60 year old man forced to acknowledge that his ideals don't match reality surrounding him.
Though in the books Geralt was written as looking as "good looking 30+" because Witchers were "foul mutants" who cheated their age and had longevity of the "body deteriorates slower than normies". :)
Yennefer - Book Yen and Netflix show Yen? The only similarties between the two are as follow:
1) One of those is a high-class and rich sorceress. The other is a magical equivalent of a fresh graduate out of university ... lost in her job-hunting failures.
2) Both have black hair. But one of them spends lots of care to look good, and knows it as a weapon against fools, while the other is magically good despite being "spontaneously" sloppy and disheveled while remaining painfully dull. I felt sorry for the actress, honestly.
3) Name. But one of them had "last name" being Yennefer of Wengerberg (if my memory isn't fucking with me, since Yen was tigh-lipped about her origins and we got only glimpses from Gealt's insights that he wasn't sharing to avoid opening old wounds). Other just have first name.
Now the contrasts between the two characters:
1) One met the Witcher as an antagonist. It was a funny short story where they met for the first time and she learned too much about Geralt's character in both funny and epic way. Try reading the short story where Buttercup travelling with Geralt found a genuine Djinni "magic lamp". Comedy gold for me.
I don't even remember, two weeks after suffering the season 1, how Netflix Yennifer met Geralt. Not so sorry for my lacking memory.
2) One of them is an "old witch" archetype character. Elegant, self confident and sharp minded with a touch of mystery air. But also ruthless and prone to pettiness towards strangers. We observe how her relationships with Geralt, cause she and he had ... rocky relations over the many short stories they featured together, change her personality somewhat to be less prickly.
The other I remember writing as young witch who isn't self confident and seem to give impression of running as Cirilla's sidekick. I very well may be wrong but that's the impression of Netflix "interpretation" of the character.
3) One of them had clearly definied magical and physical prowess. Namely she hated sweating if it wasn't while having sex. And liked to enjoy luxurious lifestyle. It was one of the reasons (their relationships were rocky) she couldn't understand why Geralt wouldn't stand for long living with her in the lap of luxury as her kept hubby.
She was a competent magician, but not a archmage powerhouse. Just rich enough from her own work to live luxuriously. A fact she was regretting in the final scene when her "first aid" tier magical healing skills were failing her to keep Geralt alive.
Second is basically a variant of Terry Pratchett Sourcerer. Magic does whatever she wants , and I'll state generously that it's her mentality that stops her from just doing everything with a wave of her hand and snap of fingers.
I won't compare Netflix Cirilla and book Ciri since i dislike the character anyway. :D
Now I forgot why i was writing it, so have it, and have a nice day everyone.
@@ThePsangrejust play the games, they do take liberties, but they also evidently cared and respected the source material, which is already more than film industry is doing, they are also better written and acted.
Why do you watch it then?! You're only supporting them and their BS ideas and ideology!
I found S3 unwatchable. I gave up early when Geralt lost Ciri in a stupid bush maze which is completely idiotic as they forget he has hightened senses. Fairly sure there's a scene in the games with Triss which has parallels and Geralt uses his Witcher senses to track...
@@ThePsangreI read 20% of this essay, didn't get the grip of what you tried to say, but good job on writting all that.
The best part about this series was Henry Cavill as Geralt. He was so into the character that the directors called him really annoying to work with. Who knew being passionate about the source material could be a problem. Mad props to Henry, the true Geralt
the only good part about this series was Cavill. nothing else was any good. it was very very bad.
@@TheSuperappelflap I stand corrected. The ONLY good part
@@art2norrman872the toss a coin to your witcher song was good tho
I feel sorry for the main cast, they looked so sad in the recent interview. I think they were doing their best, especially Anya and Joey. Because of stupid writers their career is now busted as well. Hope they'll find better projects.
Really shows that they're trying to make the show anything but faithful. How long do they want to keep using fantasy stories as a medium for their personal agendas?
I became a huge Cavill fan not because he looks like a fricking demigod and has absolutely adorable smile, builds his own computer, enjoys everything nerdy, can act, etc. But because he has shown the whole world what the integrity looks like whilst being called a "toxic gamer". He has a class and years ahead to create loads of amazing roles. I will surely follow everything he does out of respect for the man.
His a channel islands boy where being ENGLISH still exists and dad's leave inheritance to there sons
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 you're apparently English yet don't know how to use the language. ironic.
@@jamesdrummond7684 Google spell checking the Internet then bookmark appointment at the phyco ward
Warhammer 40k is in good hands.
Chris Hemsworth on the other hand......
It's simple, they pushed Henry away, and that made us fans feel nothing but resentment to these showrunners
Kinda like how Tim Allen wasn’t cast for light year.
Pretty much
Henry left because the show was already f*cked
No, the show is just shit, every aspect of it, losing Cavill was just the final nail, people have been complaining for a long time, long before Henry left
@@maxpotapenko4632 The Witcher parts of the Witcher were actually great though, that's the thing. The more they got away from that, the worse it was.
Shows the difference in what a good team makes.
I remember Peter Jackson saying how they constantly had to rewrite scenes because Ian McKellen was constantly reading the books and pointing out "Gandalf actually did this" "Gandalf said it like this" and there was no frustration or resentment there. Just a team passionate about making a good movie and working together to achieve it. Look how well the Lord of the rings and the hobbit trilogies did!
Give Henry Cavill and The Witcher to Peter Jackson and his team and you'd be rewarded with a master piece.
Totally agree. Collaboration vs Dictatorship. We can see through your bullshit "Big Streaming"
Are you kidding me?? Mckellen was known to the cast as 'The Man of The Book', coz he kept saying to Jackson that waht much of what he was doing wasn't in the books! And the Hobbit Trilogies were a an insult to Tolkein, as was LOTR. Jackson had no need to ''Rewrite Scenes'', if only he had stuck to the book lore, but for some reason, probably hollywood producers wanted to stick their own oars into it so the could boast that they had made LOTR ''Better'', which of course he didn't!
No witcher is better than bad witcher. Thank you, Henry Cavill, for putting an end to the madness.
Is that paraphrasing Christopher Hitchins?
Agreed 100#.He had the foresight and the stones to stay true to himself
Another monster head to hang from his saddle. Godspeed on the Path to him.
Such a shame, glad Henry left.
I’m sure he will keep going onto awesome things.
I hope so, he earned it
Same I'm looking forward to his new show warhammer 40k
@jamesmyers2261 Hopefully Horus Lupercal
@jamesmyers2261 I'm personally hoping for a Ciaphas Cain show. Perfect to introduce the WH40k universe and one of the most beloved character in the setting.
@jamesmyers2261He's gonna play Tyranid Broodlord....he'll be under tons of prosthetics, of course
There's nobody working in Hollywood who I respect at this point more than Henry Cavill. He fought to get the role cuz he loves the source material, and he left the role when he realized how much everyone else around him disrespected the source material. He's the only one treating film and TV as the art that it's meant to be, the rest of them are just treating it like any other job
I used to work in Film, including the second season of The Witcher. And you are very very right. Sadly, it’s always treated as just another job. There is no love in it. Get in. Get out. Next.
Yeah I and I was reading some other channel and someone said they think Liam Hemsworth will be better lol 😆 😂 🤣
These writers couldn't guide a story out of a wet paper bag. Pathetic people, probably a bit middling in IQ and filled with radical doctrines.
I wouldn't even say he works in Hollywood. He had a few big roles like Superman and Theseus in Immortals, but he was never embraced by Hollywood. Ever.
You know what they say, “Go Woke, Go Broke!”
The fact that Henry Cavill knows everything about the story was one of the reasons I have started watching the show. Also the way he prepared for it and that he even designed his own sword was out of the ordinary. Too bad Netflix messed it up by putting nonsense into the show...I am glad Henry spoke up about it and that he doesn't want to be part of this freak show. I totally respect him for his decision!!!
I think Henry's professionalism is not to be understated. I can't imagine the joy he must have had when he got the part, adapting one of his favourite works for a huge new audience.
And then the utter frustration when he had to work with people who didn't even have an ounce of the interest he had and instead hated the source material, not even giving it a semblance of respect. The fact that he didn't lash out and didn't give the writers the rageful exit from the show that they desperately wanted, shows what a smart guy he is.
Cavill only gained from this, whilst Netflix has to put out ads of “Yes, he’s still Geralt in Season 3” admitting that he is the only reason people watched the show.
I completely agree.
If we do actually get a Mass Effect or Warhammer 40K adaptation with him in it, let's hope the showrunners learn from the Witcher's mistakes.
@@mzytryck No more adaptations. I am sick of seeing things I liked getting dragged through the mud by someone that doesn't respect them.
@@mzytryck pretty sure Cavill is on top of things in that project. He saw the witcher fall, he wont let the same happen to warhammer!
Yup... if the Writer's Guild strike ends with all of them unemployed and penniless, I will laugh and applaud. Those hacks have destroyed more wonderful franchises than I care to count. The studios could dial random phone numbers across America and hire whoever answers...and they would end up with a better crop of writers than the mob of loser activists currently on strike.
@@mzytryckmass effect with him, that would be interesting for sure
I feel so bad for Henry. He probably came into this project with so much hope and joy but then had to watch it as it all crumbled into the mess we all know.
Henry has $50 million in the bank though... so...
Same. I think I read he loved the books and the games.
Funniest shit is how all the higher ups of the show and netlflix pushed the narrative that henry is a toxic gamer and sexist when he left the show but after when marketing season 3 it was literally "hey henry cavil is still the witcher in this one come see it"
"He probably came into this project with so much hope and joy but then had to watch it as it all crumbled into the mess we all know."
Every single fan did.
As novelist copy editor, I know EXACTLY what happend with this show.. something that happens to most writers who are working with other people's original work and writing adaptations of. In short, writers have an overriding drive to create their own material, to express themselves, their ideas. Most however fail to do this at a commercial level and appeal to masses, so when an opportunity presents itself to work with someone elses intellectual property, they try to use it as a means to tell THEIR story, not an adaptation of the original work. Unfortunately most writers also don't realize they are probably a mediocre writer (most are, few are genuinely talented). That is what happened here. The writer(s) took the original material and said to themselves "I have a much better idea than the original author, let's use my ideas!" They then fail to realize what made the original source material loved... it was the original author's superior work. A mediocre writer gets their hands on superior material and tries to change it so they can put their own ego ahead of it and say "that's my work!"... failing to see their ideas and writing are vastly inferior to the original work.
i really enjoyed this show's writers trying to work out their issues with their mothers on my tv screen. it was exactly what i was looking for in my grimdark monster hunting fantasy show.
this makes me feel zero compassion for the writers striking rn. let them all get fired and forced to work minimun wage jobs
@@ramirobarrera2845 I understand the sentiment (believe me, as someone who has to edit the work of mediocre novelist writers for a living, I appreciate the frustration with their mediocre work). However, failing to support their cause (not the writers themselves perhaps, but their cause) will only ensure your TV programs in the future continue to be of the poorest writing quality. Without proper compensation, the best writers will never be drawn to screenplay writing and you will be stuck in a cycle of endless garbage writing to watch. Support their cause in the hope that it means with more benefits and better compensation, the actual few talented writers that are out there, are drawn to screenplay writing to replace the mediocre ones (who are only there because they can't find pay elesewhere).
Or don't support them... and be stuck in perpetual piss writing for decades more in your streaming / tv shows.
I dare say that while your point of view is quite valid, the writers of this show were specifically hired in order to push an agenda/message (woke things and diversity and all that), so they could have been genuinely good writers but even if they had been (which they are not), they got the job in the first place in order to push that narrative not for their skills and they were chose specifically for their political views and willingness to make a mess of things.
So while your perspective does apply to decent people who just want to create something (regardless of if they are good writers or not), this is not the main reason for why the writers of this show couldn't do a good job with it, but rather because they were hired specifically in order to push political agendas and smear crap all over the source material.
@@arnthedragonborn8306 damn, you beat me to it. was gonna write the same thing haha.
My favorite part about the "We need to challenge standard beauty standards," was the leading actress going "I would much rather you just call me ugly."
Did she? That’s a relief, I was worried the casting director got away with that backhanded insult without someone telling her off for it. I swear some of these creative types act like they were raised in a barn.
Where did she say that?
I mean, I don't know in what world Anya Chalotra (Yennefer of Vengerberg) would be considered ugly. Same for pretty much all of the other women in the show.
@@boxer1129Not Triss, they downgraded her.
@@boxer1129 She's good looking, but still a choice to hire her for the role is taking a shit on the source material for the sake of diversity. Netflix is always like "in the book it says she was incredibly pale and shy so we need a black girl that will show everyone girl power"
I am honestly so glad Henry dropped out, most actors wouldn’t even care about the original source material, but the fact that he does and wants to appease the fans by making a show with accurate lore makes him so much more likeable as an actor than any other
I hope the 40k show gets made with him in charge. It won't be perfect as nothing ever is but if it at least *tries* that'll put it leagues ahead of every fan thing made in the last several years. (Cries in WoT).
When a nerd fanbase completely agrees on something, you have either created a masterpiece or an abomination.
underrated comment.
This is an excellent comment, I'ma write it down ngl
True that 😏
A masterful comment which I will unashamedly copy in the future with due reference to the creator.
U know nothing Jon Snow.
The point at which it completely died for me (not being the biggest or well versed witcher fan) was after Henry was announced to be leaving, denounced as a misogynist 'gamer' lol and then one of the writers came out and said there were writers who actively hated the original material and that inspired him to create a new rule on his next project that everyone who was writing for it had to be a fan because of how badly the witcher went after moving further and further from the originals
6:14 exactly this
Yea, I watched the first season and was done with it after. Interesting to follow the drama around it though. I wonder how much money they feel they can burn on stuff like this.
That was the exact time I turned off from the show, too. I've never read the books, but now I want to. But the moment Henry's leaving was announced, I knew I wouldn't continue with the show. And then the hit piece the showrunners released on Henry and the other stuff you mentioned. I knew I was not going to reward bad behavior by watching.
If that is not fascism (forcing a story circle into a propaganda square) I don’t know what is. Without Henry Cavill I won’t bother watching 😤
By far the funniest thing about the whole thing was that the writers tried to "leak" an email painting Henry as a misogynistic gamer chud who refused to do shirtless scenes and collaberated with one of the other gamer writers to rewrite scenes. But then everyone thought it was hilarious and absolutely justified and loved Cavill even more, so they backtracked and said the source wasn't reliable.
Shows just how out of touch with reality these people are
I have been confused about the worldbuilding in this show since the beginning. Literally all of Season 3 I kept asking my husband "where is this again?" I could not keep track of the various countries and had no clue where they were on a map. And I love fantasy and usually keep up with all those things.
Ha! We have just been watching S3 and yes I had no idea who or what was going on from the previous season. I remembered the stuff with Henry taking on the odd monster of the week but that was it. All the different places and politics just merge into one boring forgetable mess.
Same. I actually thought I was being daft. I had no idea what was happening. The funny thing about GOT is that the geography was so perfectly done that I thought it was based on real countries when I first started watching it 😂 my friend was like it's fantasy 😂
The Witcher should have been a slam dunk. They had everything they needed to succeed - a big budget, an A-list actor, a built-in fan base, an established, rich fantasy world from a bestselling author and the wildly-popular video games. It's actually amazing they managed to mess it up that badly.
Never underestimate the sheer magnitude of Netflix's stupidity from here onwards.
And more than that it’s not as mainstream as say Lord of the Rings or even Game of Thrones so you had a fairly large devoted core that if you’d given half the effort as Cavil has it would have sang it praises from the rooftops growing it base instead they pissed off half that core and the half that remained spent their time defending their tolerance of it to the other half.
When you look what's happened to Star Wars in less than a decade, is it really that surprising these days. The management for this show is cut from the same cloth as Lucasfilm.
And one could maybe think authors would be more cautious with Netflix in the future.
Sheer. Fucking. Hubris.
It's been really amazing watching studios take properties with large built in fanbases, and then not only turn them into shows the fans won't want, but actively antagonize said fanbases.
Stunning and brave business strategy.
Truly amazing. You would think they'd want to make money. Guess not
And they are not, as they claim, "empowering women". If they wanted to tell those stories, there's Anne McAffrey's "Pern" series, Wendy Pini's "Elfquest", pretty much everything Mercedes Lackey did... there are acres of classic fantasy tales from and about women with massive followings stretching decades long. But what are they doing? Tearing down men characters and structures _because they are motivated by HATRED toward men._
@@steveouk90126Nice H.P. Lovecraft reference in the name. Super props; I love his "Dream Quest" and other novellas, as well as his horror stories in shorter form. 🥲👍
@@thereconracoon3715 They don't care. We live in a post profit world where China bribes the studio execs to keep churning out shit. The movies make no money. The studio makes no money. The industry crashes and these workers will be out of business and their bosses will laugh at them in their BMWs.
Good for tax write-offs though.
you know what makes me the most depressed about this and many other similar examples? That The Drinker is repeating himself in so many of these videos and then you realise it's not because there's an issue with his videos.. it's because that's how the reality looks like.. all those shitty shows really do repeat the same dumb mistakes and are all so full of themselves.. it's the same old same old so many times over it makes my head hurt
You better start thinking it is not a mistake but the purpose and the design. These people are being paid to do exactly this and that is why they are hired to do this. And they will do this again and again. The goal of this IS to make you depressed AND to destroy and perverse a cultural piece. When you think about it this way things start to make sense. This is not the entertainment, but propaganda from people who hate you. Stop consuming it and go do a work out.
That's actually the main reason that I lost interest in CinemaSins... it wasn't their fault, but their videos were become too repetitive. Even flat earthers have a wider repertoire of sheer stupidity than Hollywood!
Yup
It’s all so tiresome
No he's repeating himself because he knows shit, but pretends to do so. Otherwise he could stop to bash Brie Larson, but after 5 years their is no change at all.
I'm pleased you mentioned the world building. I watched all three series and I never understood the different factions or locations. It never made any sense. I would also add it had a totally uneven tone with dialogue sounding like it was written by a fourteen year old followed by explosive and well choreographed action. Plus the costumes were also all over the place, some early mediaeval, some Tudor looking, some from the local s&m outfitters and some from the Halloween fancy dress shop. It felt like the show was being written by a dozen different people who never spoke to each other.
Shows like the brilliant Gangs of London have one of the most ethnically and culturally diverse casts I've ever seen on British television, but works really well because it fits with the location and the story. Shoehorning different races in fantasy stories can work like in Games of Thrones with the Dothraki and the Unsullied.
Enjoyed Henry Cavill as the Witcher and all the cast. The scripts were a total, confused mess. Shame! Shame! Shame! See what I did there 😅
That's exactly how Netflix writes it's shows. A person who pitched a show on Netflix wrote about it.
Basically, they would ask writers to each write "some sample episodes". That way, they can churn out many episodes without paying writers.
So you end up with a TV show that has no real continuity because the writers Didn't know what the other writers were thinking.
This happens in the Umbrella academy as well.
The characters act, talk and think very differently.
I found myself saying "that person would definitely call you out on that", and they proceed not to.
It was crazy
the dothraki/unsullied were not “shoehorned” into thrones, per say. Solid casting & directorial decisions id say.
I said it before and I say it again. 2-3 decades ago Cavill would be a star. Nowadays he just has to fight to get some decent movies and shows at every single corner. Guy has it all. Good attitude towards fans, professionalism, looks and charisma.
Relax, he'll be the next Bond.
@@sg-yq8pmHe isn’t a black lesbian so I think not…
What changed I wonder.
Oh yes, diversity.
He doesn’t fit in the Marxism culture revolution .
Unfortunately it's a sin to be a white man nowdays so yeah, he's stuck with that.
More people already watched this video than watched Season 3 of The Witcher. Fantastic job Drinker!
I watched season 1 and that was it.
Fu k diversity
We ded et!
There's a season 3 of the Witcher?? 😂
Nearly 100 million viewing hours by households without people, interesting.
@@russjen5012 Just like Captain Marvel.
It's almost like departing from the source material that made the story popular is a terrible idea. Who knew?
Wheel of Time knew.
This is an example where they had a great IP, a great actor, a massive audience and the writers fucked it all up. They had the easiest job in the world bt sticking to and respecting the source material. They let their egos and agendas basically cause the loss of their jobs.
A perfect example of, "Go woke, go broke".
I hope Henry Cavill gets a chance to play Geralt again, but with actual fans of the Witcher universe running the show.
if The Witcher gets another chance in the silver screens considering how adored he was by everyone he will probably be in the list for the role. Unless they put the IP on ice for like 20 years then ig Henry will be too old for the role
@@TimoCruz177 he can still play Vesemir if they put it on ice for long time
Yes my thoughts exactly!
@@TimoCruz177 He wasted a few years on this pile of shit, but he'll bounce into something else and be fine
The rest of the no-talent cockholes that made the show... well I reckon they might be up the Fecal Creek
yet people still refuse to admit that females are the main problem of everything.
One of the strengths of the Witcher Brand is that it's rooted in slavic folklore. The monsters, locations, characters, lore, and even the potions are based on folklore. So when Celtic Elves are black, chinese, etc... it's nearly impossible to wrap your head around it. And if they wanted to cast other races, the Zerrikanians in the lore all have dark skin. Similarly to Dorne in GOT.
But Slavic people are white and therefore evil, you see? And their folklore is consequently also evil and needs to be corrected.
Doesn't matter that their name is literally THE origin of word slave/slavery... oh the irony.
It's a well known fact that the Celtic people of ancient Ireland are descended from the Ming Dynasty of ancient China. Take Craggy Island's Chinatown as an example.
Slavic and Celtic are not the same. Celtic is a geographical classification, centered around the ancient British Isles, and sometimes Western Europe. Slavic being Eastern Europe. Not wagging a finger, just an important distinction!
It's hilarious, in GoT they made Salladhor Saan and Areo Hotah black despite the existence of at least a dozen black characters in the books, they cared so little about the source material (and probably knew even less than they cared about it as there's no way they read those books more than 1 or 2 times) and felt the need to 'diversify' it up but continued to ignore the existence of these characters, some of which play a fairly important role in the story like the Red Preist Moqqorro or Chataya the owner of the brothel Tyrion goes to in order to sneak out of it to see Shae (they just casually replaced her with "Roze the whore").
Same thing they did to Wheel of Time. Made the small white rural town super diverse, when they had several other cultures to add diversity. You had to change white characters black, when there were many others described as "coppery skinned" and "skin like charcoal".
All of your points were spot on. Anyone else thinking that Henry got away from the sinking ship in time? After Season 2, he knew what was coming.
Honestly, he probably should have left earlier. He saw the writing on the wall almost from the start. But at least now nobody can say he didn't try.
Honestly, I wouldn't even blame him if he had bailed after Season 1.
@@gjohannes1344 He managed to get more speaking lines like the actual book Geralt instead of just saying "fuck" repeatedly. Plus he was getting a LOT of money per episode.
@@kyuzotatsuya9641 Plus he really wanted it to be good and put a lot of work in it. He didn't want to give up on it but when a fight is lost it's lost. He knew it will only get worse.
100%!!! 7:37 "Make no mistake, Blood Origins is very much the Witcher story they always wanted to tell. A story where diversity and inclusion, female empowerment, and LBGT representation were the overriding priorities, and telling an actual good story that complimented the source material was a distant after-thought."
I dislike the poofter scenes.
How hard Henry Cavill tried to stay true to the source material for his character shows a great deal of respect. That he was willing to do so within the ensemble framework constraining him shows an incredible amount of professionalism (A word I don't use lightly because I feel it overused).
Not overused when it’s about Henry lol
He was paid millions to act and somehow, he's a victim.
@@russjen5012 Oh boy, here's the big apologist for "The Message" these shitbag showrunners kept trying to push.
Henry was accused of misogyny by leftie women. It's not ok to be a man in Hollywood anymore
What was the difference between the source material and the series ?
The "unlocking fast-travel" is a well earned dig at a lot of fantasy works these days. It's pretty much the best way for the writers to announce "I'm lazy and don't care anymore."
The "fast travel" in Star Trek ever since the 2009 movie bugs the hell out of me. It's freaking SPACE. Getting anywhere should take time.
@@BiggieTrismegistus Agreed, but Star Trek abused that earlier in STV The Final Frontier, remember the quick trip to the center of the Galaxy?
MCU laughs “We don’t care about the lore and timeline”
@@BiggieTrismegistus The original Star Trek invented the teleporter as a way to use fast travel. And the warp drive is literally fast travel.
@@writerpatrick Fast travel is a gaming term that means instant travel over any distance.
Absolutely every single plot point either:
1: Is caused by Yennefer.
2: Is all about Yennefer.
3: Is expounding on how amazing Yennefer is.
It’s the most disgusting self admitted self insert I have ever seen in any medium, this is worse than Kathleen Kennedy by a country mile.
Even Tissaia’s *SUICIDE NOTE* is nothing but a ‘you are so amazing! Keep doing what you’re doing!’ It’s sickening.
yep
Got so bloody sick of Yennefer.
Get your own bloody show!
How else are we, the moronic toxic viewers, supposed to possibly comprehend that Yennefer is awesome without the writers specifically telling us that though?!
It's amazing how the show made me hate one of my favorite characters so deeply.
@@billy.mandalayhonestly I laughed out loud when known traitor and wanted criminal Yennefer of Vengerberg marched into the conclave, gave a ‘YOU NEED TO DO BETTER MAGES’ speech and genuinely:
*EVERYONE CLAPPED* 😂😂😂
I feel bad for that actress though, she did an alright job. Just got caught in the middle of Lauren “yass queen”-ing the hell out of the source material
When you adapt a book into a series, you usually have actors who have read the book before, or haven't.
Cavill was a rare gem because he didn't just read the books. He was a FAN living his dream and we all enjoyed the first season as he lived that dream. He was so right to turn his back on Netflix when it was clear they wanted to deviate from the books.
Henry to me seems like someone who would have done well on the set of LotR. I remember interviews with the actors of that cast saying that they had all read the books and appreciated the world to some degree. It seemed like Henry was the only one to do that for The Witcher world. Sad, tragic way this show was handled
@@RemedyLibra I do hope he gets that chance one day.
Imagine Cavill playing Beren or Earendil or Fingolfin or Tuor…
Yeah Henry can be Aragorn or Faramir in LotR if it come out now definitely
Henry Cavill was in Lotr. He was an elven archer at the battle of Helms Deep
When Viggo took the job he'd not read the books so he went through them all on the journey to New Zealand. That's some intensive reading
I feel so bad for Henry, i'm happy he saved himself from that sinking ship.
At least he’s still famous, hot, classy, muscular and rich
I don’t feel bad for him. He seems to be good at dusting his hands off and doing his own thing. I don’t think the failure of the show taints his view of the source material. That being said, we will see how War Hammer turns out. That’s his baby.
Out of all the beautiful stories this weird woke movement has destroyed, I'm the saddest about The Witcher. I've read all the books, played all the games twice. This could have been my favorite film series of all time.
But now 😢 I'm not even going to finish season 3. I'm out...
I have a free shoulder he can cry on. 🔥💜😍
He seems to have a great deal more sense than most actors. I hope he flies high and long. Maybe Hollywood will recover from this insane era of wokeness and give him some good parts to play before he dies of old age.
When the series launched, wasn't it the most successful show Netflix ever released? The show runners sure fumbled that ball. Hopefully they change careers.
Actual embarrassing on their end, hopefully every studio sees hiring these guys as a guaranteed failure after this mess.
No, they'll keep getting show runner jobs
The ideologies that caused the fumbling of the show are an intrinsic part of the staff they hire. Hardwired into them. Things will only get worse, before they get better.
An iconic display of letting power and success going to your head. Writers and runners were not humbled by their success, and felt that they had the Midas touch. Turns out it was delusions of grandeur.
They are currently on strike demanding more money for the sh*ts they did before striking. The Witcher is just one of them.
Damn shame. Henry really captures Geralt in every respect and understands the world because he genuinely loves it. He could and should have been their best resource, but they blew it.
They definitely won't be blaming themselves for this, they'll be blaming the fans ,society etc.
PATRIARCHY !!
Of course not. THEY are always the victims. One could say: They are professional victims.
google search witcher 3 and the first headline is "Witcher Producer Blames Young American Audience For Viewership Decline"
The fans, society and God even if they don't believe in him
That's what narcissists do.
Consistently amazed at the Drinker's ability to distill everything I hated about a show I wanted to like.
And with the poor quality of these shows, that probably happens more often than you'd like.
"i hated a show I wanted to like" that is now the world we love in, where those who want to sell us stuff hate us
As one of the many people who read the books because of the Witcher games, I would say that while Yennifer mostly exists to compare and contrast with Geralt though the Witcher Cycle itself becomes less about Geralt and more about Ciri as the story progresses. If they had stayed true to the source material, they would have had a story that ultimately focused on a young woman going from being a McGuffin to the protagonist as the story progresses. Ciri is prophesized to have incredibly powerful offspring, and that is the only thing about her that most characters in the story care about. Geralt and Yennifer both resent the fact that they have been made sterile, and both eventually become surrogate parents to Ciri and ultimately teach her that relationships don't have to be cynically transactional, while also giving her the strength to become the active master of her own destiny instead of a passive victim of it. The books already had a strong message about female empowerment, but since they did not emasculate the men, the show writers had to completely abandon them. Also, can I say, I really hate what the show did to Ciri's grandmother, Calanthe. In trying to make the freakin' "Lion of Cintra" more of a "girl boss" they somehow managed to make the most feared and respected ruler in the entire book series look like a weak and incompetent sop to feminists.
Feminist writing creativity ends at “strong woman”.
They cant comprehend anything beyond that, simply because they base their entire worldview off of “power”.
Much respect to someone who dug the source material (terrific books), this was a perfect overview and sweet analysis. :) May the series that could've been live in our dreams.
Well said brother! But I'm just replying to tell you that I love your username and that it made me lol. o7
You're spot on.
@@antismoke9488 Long live Snake AND Snack Plissken. ;)
This show should have been an easy knock out of the park. They had a whole world pre-built for them with characters and lore to showcase, a star fully committed to the lead role, solid costumes and sets, decent enough effects budget, an excited fan-base eagerly awaiting the first episode, a whole crowd of people tiring of superhero content and looking for something new, and a lack of competition from any similarly themed shows coming out at the same time. This should have thrived.
It’s a real shame too because this show had so much promise but that’s what happens when directors and writers think their ideas are better than the source material
I agree. Season one wasn’t perfect but good enough. Season two you could tell it wasn’t about the witcher anymore and the world building just wasn’t there. Season three seemed to have no real substance at all.
You would think Hollywood would use GoT as a cautionary tale...
Among other things… They decided to go woke.
And pretty much all things that go woke… go broke.
@@ambrosia5356season 1 was still garbage. It was a feminist Harry Potter lol. I love this show. As a big witcher fan, it was fun to watch and trash the show.
They made Triss and fringilla black girls lol. The most beautiful women imaginable are just pudgy black women. Too funny.
I watched season 1 with my younger sister. She made no attempt to watch season 2 and I was never mad.
Cavill was the only redeeming feature.
I was shocked when removing the Witcher, from the Witcher, failed.
I finished season 1 episode 1 and couldnt force myself to watch episode 2.
Cavil was the only redeeming feature but everything else was so bad i had no interest in continuing
pretty much. season 1 was ok, i would have watched the rest if they stuck to the standard.
I have to disagree on that. This show had another redeeming feature. His name is Joey Batey.
Like Marco Polo, it was boring but one actor managed to make it bearable
The more I learn about Cavill, the more I like him. Yeah, he's this chiseled, good-looking successful Hollywood actor, but he's also a massive nerd and puts in the work for his roles. Mad respect to him for quitting a role he clearly loved due to artistic integrity.
It's all good. This ain't the first time Geralt's been killed. Good stories never truly die.
I remember not knowing anything about him and seeing his interviews on how badly he wanted the Witcher role and he gained a lot of respect in my book. He even defended the fans at a time the show runners were denouncing them.
It's the fact he's a massive nerd and you don't expect him to be if you didn't know anything about him aside from his appearance. He looks like he could have the typical rich good looking douchebag personality but he's the complete opposite of it. A true Chad.
I am not sure if I would call him a ''hollywood actor'' He does not even live in hollywood
I don't know why you'd include 'chiseled' and 'good looking' here. Neither of those qualities indicate if a person is likeable or not, or a nerd for that matter.
@@roryfitzpatrick3571 Well, they are both objectively true things. I mean, he's not attractive to me personally, but one can see others find him that way.
Thats what bothered me, I had no idea the geography of the world because they never bothered to show, I spent so long wondering what felt off
Imagine a world that showrunners respect and love the source material....that would be nice.
Compare this abominable woke mess with The Lord of the Rings...they are as diametrically opposed as possible.
I'm shaking in my boots over the future of the new Narnia series. 99% certain they will trash my most beloved books.
@@prince-solomon Yea but look what they did with The Rings of Power and that Hobbit trilogy
@@mtcelticharperOut of all the people, Netflix thought it was wise to give it to Greta Gerwig to be adapted. At this point I am pretty sure they are intentionally trying to destroy classic works.
@@tommyhawk2065 right??
If this was a different decade, Henry Cavill would be the biggest star In Hollywood
God I hate “modern audiences” 🤬
He still is but this assholes refuse to accept that
M O D E R N
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@@IAmTheEagleHTM
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Don't hate modern audiences, they didn't do a damn thing, Hate the Marxist feminist studies majors who get nepotism jobs in entertainment and force their politics into every aspect of every project despite the negative effects their beliefs have on the paying customers. The audience didn't do shit wrong.
The audience isn't the issue. We ar ether audience. It's the out of touch people in charge of the content
It would be so nice if in 10 years henry cavil just decides to make the show himself, and casts correctly, sticks to the lore like he wanted, tells the stories in the books while also slaying monsters and doing fun side quests. Wont ever happen but one can dream. Hes the perfect Geralt, will still be a decade from now. Champion of the Nerds, you are too good for us Henry.
In ten years time it’ll be illegal to make something good!
Well, he is working on making his own Warhammer show, so there's that.
all the Witcher fans will suddenly become Warhammer fans, which ain't a bad thing either at this point
That is such a great title 'Champion of Nerds'! I would be happy and honoured to be a nerd if we get to have such a great man as our champion.
I've been saying this for a coupla years now:-
IF ONLY there was a word for when (IF) a production company ACTUALLY decided to STICK TO the BOOKS/GAMES, CHARACTERS, STORIES AND LORE, even getting Cavill on board saying HE ALSO had input into how it was done, and ACTUALLY MAKING A DECENT VERSION of this franchise... Oh yeah....
R E B O O T ! ! ! !
GOD, JUST THINK... IF THIS HAPPENED..... 🐍HISSSSSRICH (and cohorts) would see and be embarrased at how doing what they did (changing elements and details they did) FUCKED UP what COULD VERY WELL HAVE BEEN A HUGELY SUCCESSFUL AND... LUCRATIVE franchise for them... Like, say, oooh I dunno... Their own GOT!!
But no... We don't get nice things, or even when it looks like we do, we don't get nice things for long... 😒😒😠😠
😎🇬🇧
Ive read and loved the books as teenager, some 20+ years ago.
I played and loved the games, some 10+ years ago.
Ive watched half of e01 of season 1 and was instantly aware how they butchered my boy.
Very similar backgroud here, although I managed throught the entire first episode - mostly because I thought those first scenes were just some kind of practical joke on the audience, and the actual show would start at some point.
Re-reading the books afterwards helped me feel clean again.
Witcher fan since 3 years ago, I started reading the books before playing the games then watching the show, the second they made Cahir a raging psychopath I knew there was something wrong
you should really play the entire Witcher 3
They had the PERFECT GAME, the visuals, the settings, the atmosphere, the music, the looks, the feels.. the game deliver it all for them on a platter.. they have AMAZING books, just pick a story and let it reap.. the had the PERFECT actor.. who knows the game and the books.. they just had to deliver a decent script, and to cast some decent actors .. and they freaking ruined EVERYTHING... how dumb, how idiotic one can be to screw up on such gigantic proportions?
Very easily because they wanted the message not to do it well.
Lol the show is adapting the book not the game.
For them to adapt the game they would need to get confirmation from cdpr.
@@Ma1q444 not neccessary adapt the game story, but the game gave a pretty good representation how the world and characters look like, visually
@@saikousan.... Yes. The game would have been a one huge concept art for the show for how the things should look in general. But no. They went with Nilfgaardian crotch armor and so on...
CDPR doesn't hoold a trademark on clothing, only if they used specific characters and visuals from the game
@@Ma1q444
Losing Henry from the Witcher is like Sir Ian Mckellen quitting the role of Gandalf.
Fax
Nah, one is incredibly talented and is well endorsed with theatre and impersonation, the other is just very handsome to the ladies
@@DaggerZ555 Not only handsome to the ladies
@@blaumutze4755 Only to the ladies and you
I really hope the rumors are true and Henry Cavill produces and stars in a Warhammer 40k show. I have faith in him to do it justice.
Not a rumour, Amazon has officially confirmed a deal with Cavil to produce a franchise of WH40k shows.
@@StuSaville We have to remember that this is the same company that made Rings of Power and they have their own set of brainless morons at PR controlling and accepting the content they deliver. I hope Cavill have the full control in his contract, or they're just going to use his name to earn brownie points with a certain audience.
And if they could give him the same budget as Rings of power.......would be epic.
Inb4 the emperor of man will be emperor of person a black transgender strong independent woman who hates evil straight white spacenazis but loves all other races and all of the infinite genders of the universe, it will have a army of queermarines dressed in powergimpsuit armor and they will prance around the universe forcefully turning people trans and gay.
Doesn’t games workshop have it’s own streaming service?
I hope it happens. But I doubt it will happen. Especially with the strike going on
What's hard to understand is how show after show after is suffering the same fate--- Henry Cavill was the reason I watched and it was clear his role was being diminished over time in a kind of bait and switch. Have a successful show with male lead character? Can't have that. Better to ruin the IP than allow such a travesty of social justice. Mando suffered the same fate and Obi-Wan was bait and switch from the get go-- I can't even remember who the show was supposed to be about or why Leia had any part of it. It's also interesting Netflix, Disney, Amazon, perhaps Apple (don't really watch) are all making the same error. I'm more than happy to let you do the watching going forward. Henry made the right call. Clearly, a man of character willing to walk away from a paycheck rather than sacrifice his integrity. Bravo.
Yup, he got out at the right time. Ultimately he'll be fine, and the showrunners will eventually fade into obscurity.
Can we boycott Hollywood ?? Don't watch any of their stuff
If most people do this then I believe their wokeness will be gone
It really seems like the entertainment industry has forgotten that they're supposed to be making things for audiences to enjoy - not things for themselves to feel virtuous.
They don’t give a shit about your entertainment. On the contrary, they hate you, and they want to make programs that insult you
Underrated comment
Why entertain when you can engineer society?
Henry speaks so intelligently. It's really impressive that he has all the other qualities like humility, integrity, work ethic and talent.
and incredibly handsome, so much that he was a great fit for Superman (at least in theory, before the people in charge +there+ messed it up).
And he's swoll af
Ya’ll are mega simping fr…
Same, massive dude-crush on the guy fr.
It's what happens when you aren't a part of the Hollyweird cult.
He's an everyday man being reviled by the group of pedophiles.
@@Yannopill fr fr hes straght bussin on god
you know you sound cringe right?
Massive Witcher fan. Read all the books and played all the games, which, despite Sapkowski's lamentations, were incredible and respected the source material. Naturally, I was excited when it was announced that my favourite fantasy was being made into a TV show. Then I saw that it was Netflix, then I saw the production crew, then I read some of their posts. I got worried but still held on to a faint hope. Checked out half way through season 1 when it was clear it wasn't going to be anything like the books and not even close to a "faithful adaptation". Hearing and seeing all the salt from the production crew over the criticism they received made me glad I didn't waste any more of my time. I was honestly surprised the show made it past Season 2 to be honest.
only reason why Sapkowski cried about games so much is because he underestimated games as medium. He is overhyped intelectual who thinks gamers are idiots and he is above them. He signed crappy deal because he thought nobody will care. And after his realisation that he missed diamond opportunity he actually wanted took case to court (even if he had zero chance to win case). To put into perspective: he signed deal where he passed licence for games for merely 10 000 dollars.
@@stadoblech and the sad part is, he probably wont realize just how much the games pushed people to get his books.
For someone like me who has never read any of the books or played any of the games, is the show still worth watching if I don't know anything about the original source material and want to watch something new?
@@ZeroZiltchHe knows it very well, just will not admit it. The Witcher was the thing in Poland, but became known worldwide only because of the games.
This is exactly my experience with it, with the exception that my wife loved the costumes so we finished the first season, at which point she 'noped' out of it too. You can't make a non-chronological show without anchoring the audience, and the 'diverse' cast shot that concept in the foot.
I love Gerald's improvised monologue upon Roache's death. That came from Cavill when everyone else wanted to simply "get it over with".
Imagine having whole story, lore and character details neatly served to you on a silver platter.
Imagine having a popular lead actor always geeking out about every aspect of your production, offering suggestions and advice to keep everything as faithful to source material as possible.
Imagine having a large, dedicated fanbase that would be happy to help you succeed, free of charge, by sending casting advices, script suggestions, even whole dialogues written for the purpose of the show.
Finally, imagine that all you have to do in order to make something wonderful is to decide which parts of the source material are either non essential and can be skipped or you can present them in more efficient way (after all, the picture is often worth a thousand words).
Shiteflix, you done goofed. Big time.
And the only thing you 'originally' contribute to show is inconsistency by introducing woke bs and Nilfgaardian ball-sack armor
Were you talking about star wars ?
@@claytongehrke2176 Not sure were you got this idea from. As far as I know Star Wars is not directly based on any book series or game franchise. That being said, I'm sure SW fanbase is no less passionate about Lucas's works than Witcher's fans about Sapkowski's novels. And unfortunately for both fandoms, Hollywood decided to give all the production powers to people with lower than room temperature IQ.
The worst part of all of this is that there is space for diversity within the Witcher canon. Zerrikania is matriarchal. Redania is super concerned with caste. Ofir is a kingdom that seems to be loosely based off of some Middle Eastern/ North African trading nations. They kind of did this when they looked at how sorceresses are simultaneously very powerful and influential but still ultimately subservient to their king, but I would have liked to see a deeper exploration.
I always found it interesting in the games how different items come from different regions, such as certain places being known for their particular alcohol or weapons. Instead of having Geralt with the same two swords and generic sets of armour, they could have him, for example, go to Mahakam and get high quality weapons from a dwarf. Or let some sorceress at a ball complain about the wine from some faraway region.
The problem is not diversity, its that diversity is being so poorly executed that it is working against the world building when it could be doing the opposite.
They think diversity is everything in the same place at the same time. That's the logical flaw. If everyone is the same everywhere there is NO diversity at all.
The problem is diversity for diversity's sake. Not every show needs to have a diverse cast. It all has to work for the story. Instead, modern studios work the other way around. Diverse cast first, then whatever shit story they can conjure up.
Agreed. However, to make regions distinct would also mean making them "not diverse" within those regions and "stereotyping" the people from those regions. Which is anathema to Diversity for diversity sake.
The show runners basically said they didn't read the books or play the games so its quite ironic that they could have read them and found out there was already diversity baked into the lore.
Well said mate. You sound like a true fan of the lore. Unfortunately for us, the writers werent fans 😂
Henry is the kind of guy you give absolute veto power to. Because you know he will keep everyone in line.
those "woke" ones would never have that
He's gonna try his hand on 40k
He's clearly the wrong sex, colour and sexuality to be given complete power and so it'd be sexist, racist and genderist to give it to someone who looks like him as it's mandatory to discriminate based on sex, colour and sexuality.
A primer for an HR seminar sounds about right.
I think the problem that I'm experiencing with fantasy shows is that people try to build fantasy worlds that are based on historical elements like the medieval, renaissance, or ancient periods, but with modern tropes. It just straight up conflicts with each other, and no one is respecting the source material as a result. These people are incapable of writing a fantasy world without medieval/renaissance influence so they just rip off source material and inject their agendas. It's so blatant that it disrespects the story.
It's not even the tropes that hirt a story so much. My biggest gripe with woke shows is that they will spare no expense in crafting the settings, but omit the fact that the physical features of the cast is also part of the setting. The idea is as ludicrous as making a movie about medieval China and have the imperial palace be built in neogothic.
Yeah it always looks like a california suburb...
Mediëval poland? california!
Fantasy steam punk world? california!
Space station in the far future? california!
Always the same "diverse" strong "females" everywhere, always cringy wana be rebel kids everywhere, always some soy infused guy around every corner...
They can't let you just enjoy the source material or anything which is historically accurate because both good storytelling and reality are antithetical to 'the message.' It's not that they're incapable, it's that they think it's their job to engineer society to woke specifications.
@@casper_z1259The Dragon Prince is guilty of this in my opinion.
They kinda get away with it in the sense that humanity was displaced long ago, but by virtue of genetics (and mixing together in the name of survival) nearly every peasant should resemble each other in terms of physical looks. As humanity was displaced hundreds of years ago. So skin tone, facial features, eye color, etc. should all be similar.
Yet the people of Katolis look as suspiciously diverse as down town New York.
Every other people group in the world though? Human or otherwise?
Yeah, similar features.
So right out the gate the world building is a mess based on the look of the people alone.
Lots of tv shows make this faux pas in the name of the writers personal politics, and we’re expected not to notice.
I like to write myself, so I visit a lot of writing forums and websites, and the woke ideology is everywhere. I've read so many manuscripts where the whole thing is obviously just a clown car for the author's modern political views...written in a fantasy world for some reason. What is the point of writing a fantasy book if you're just going to overtly cram it full of modern politics that the average person is tired of dealing with here and now. Totally ignores the whole point of the genre.
It's hard to understand how someone can be so stupid to not realize this but many of these writers really believe they are doing something groundbreaking, even if they have hundreds of examples of the pros doing exactly what they are doing, and getting woke and going broke in the process. In reality, they are cultural bottom feeders, digesting the waste from those above them and regurgitating it. As a result, what they end up creating is a ham-fisted struggle session that nobody will want to read or remember. At this point in the political landscape, I think readers can recognize it for what it is as soon as they see it. Propaganda. This ideology's M.O. has always been to infiltrate institutions and mediums. Wear them like skin suits. Another empty vessel, another trojan horse for the real goal. THE MESSAGE.
It's crazy to think the netflix guys had everything on a silver platter and they threw it across the room
Go Woke go broke.
That's what I call stupidity at its finest.
but they are still very successful with it, that is the sad reality...we have the same in gaming, look at the new fifa...they will be successful with that nonsense because streamer will hype it and be like, "this is fine" and kids follow
Hollywood as a whole has done this to basically everything. Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Lord of the Rings, Star Trek, James Bond, all. Big brand IPs with built in fan bases destroyed for the cause of "The Message".
@@sanji1259agreed 100%!
Gaming is actually worse tbh because its literally the same online trash every year, same game, different title. And people buy it every year by the millions.
Thank our lucky stars for companies like FromSoft that still do things 'their way' and original, and release finished games that require skill to finish. Instead of the EA/Blizzard/Bungie cash trash grabs we see be regurgitated year on year
The fact that this video was only released an hour ago and is already at almost 200k views is testament to Critical Drinker’s common sense, no frills, honest approach of unbiased, unpolitical commentary. The various media industries have departed from all of these values, which is what gives this channel so much punching power. Thank You, critical drinker for being a voice to the viewers once again. Great stuff.
He has much better takes and gets to the point faster than most reviewers. I can't even go to redlettermedia anymore which used to be my go to, they have become detached from your average viewer and they like to push "mainstream media narratives" when it comes to critiques of movies or new releases that they don't bother watching (sound of freedom).
Agreed
What? His takes are biased, as they should be, and he's quite political in his videos. "THE MESSAGE"
He’s both biased and political, but he was very interesting/great takes. It’s interesting to hear what he thinks
Drinker is the critic you want to listen to. He's actually into what he does, and it shows.
With Game ofThrones, the only reason we really knew geography in the first few episodes (or really at all for that matter) was because of the map on the opening credits/intro, not the writing or world building.
I recently read an article where the producers tried to say that they had to move away from the lore to make things simpler for "American audiences." That is so much BS. When you start blaming the audience for your failings, especially when you start dumbing down and modifying the actual source material, you're not gonna have a good outcome.
The same American audience that made the games sell millions of copies and kept Witcher 3 popular even today. Ok.
Probably some marketing department guy said to make it simple and they did without any proof.
@iSOBigD World over dude not only USA.
first season was decent. a solid 7 :).
Because calling your main audience dumb is always a good way to go...
Henry Cavill as Geralt was one of the best casting choices ever made and they still fumbled the potential of this show
Nooooo
Henry Cavil is a really likeable guy but he's a horrible choice for Geralt
Same for superman. How tf is Ezra still the flash but Cavill isn’t superman?
"when everyone unlocked fast travel", what a great quote mate!
Fantastic reviews as always.
It is amazing. Everyone on Poland is surprised, that our old Witcher show is actually much better. CGI was awful, but the screenplay and acting was much much better.
It amazes me when people think they know better than the material that they are ripping off. The author created an amazing work, they literally had a walking wikipedia on it that they could use and they managed to completely mess it up. It's really sad honestly
Support independent artists. Allow the creators themselves to maintain control of their work. Else... yes... YER GONNA GET A SHEETSHOW.
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The plot still follows the books. Yes they changed some things but the broad story is consistent.
Henry Cavill as Geralt was like the stamp of quality of the show; people only got hyped because they knew that there was a fan of the IP in the main role of the series.
Without Cavill as the protagonist, no one would even have expected the damn series to be good in the first place.
Well hopefully the show will go on.
Even worst, the replacement has 0 charisma and a HUGE shoes to fill
When the primary goal is to tell an agenda instead of to tell a good story this is what the result will always be.
and in case anyone reading your comment was wondering, I'd like to add that of course this not at all limited to "woke" ideas.
a laughable example for something completely different politically would be the vast majority of overly religious/faith-based films that are barely interested in telling an interesting story with fleshed out characters and instead are mostly about trying to convey their spiritual beliefs.
Exactly. Studios/Media hijack known and beloved books, movies, series, and characters as vehicles to sell their agenda. They then reshape and ruin all the elements that made those stories and characters great. They've been doing it now for a decade+ and it's quite Orwellian but very obvious to many.
@@xxxaragon absolutely correct left behind films come to mind
and interestingly, the opposite works as well. like, I can easily imagine a movie being very good +despite+ having an underlying political theme (emphasis on "underlying") that I vastly disagree with.
(which is also how I'd say it's possible to differentiate between people who really want to see good movies or left/right activists who +mostly+ want to about to make the political/social ideas the point of discussion.
and just so no one misunderstands me: it's of course perfectly fine to talk about and discuss the themes of art, and maybe even more interesting if one disagrees those. but it's the not the only merit of it.
again, as much as it pains the aforementioned activists, a facist might still write a great novel. and a far left communist might still record a great song)
3:31 "But if I dont do it in a show like this, people wont notice that I did it"
The main sadness I feel is no studio will touch this amazing story and universe for probably a decade now.
With diversity casting rules, how will they ever do it well
I'm starting to believe the polish Witcher series was better
Luckily we'll have a new game in the meantime 🤘🏻
@@Remus28 CDPR is not the same company it used to be. Now they have to follow ESG score rules and that is massive red flag for me and all hype for the new game was instantly gone.
@@user-ko3tv7jl2r With diversity casting rules Hollywood will _never_ be able to do a faithful adaptation. Someone would have to buy the rights and produce a Witcher series that’s far from Ieftists and their subversive buII$#!t.
Cavil was the only one trying to keep the insane writers on track with the books. He is a Witcher fan like the rest of us, so when he got the boot, it was like kicking out all the fans of the original material. For fans of the Witcher books and games, the show was over once Henry Cavil left the set for the last time.
Id argue many of the issues Drinker rattles off existed in season 1, I am not big into the lore of the witcher, I played the second game a bit, it was cool, but uh, at the end of it all, the show was just kinda boring, so many arcs in the first few episodes had dillemas worthy of at least two seasons of unpackaging, instead we get an any% speedrun of the plot hooks like its some degenerate like yourself DMing a game of DND, degenerates like you belong on a cross, hunting permits ought to be issued for you, and killing you with fire is a joke, honorary furry 😂❤
Its just a joke, bruuh😂 dont be thin skinned, your dignity and sense of self worth is not a thing you are entitled to anywhere you try to go on the internet😂
This is a gift of perspective, imagine that joke for 15 years at your expense.
Your time begins now, we start by calling CPS because we feel bad for your kids
Same, he's the only actor (apart from Jenna Ortega) who had to essentially tard-wrangle his own show.
The worst part is really that we didn’t get a good show with Henry and it could have been a successful franchise
if u want to become the next Tom Cruise, make sure your producer n lead writer aint a Woman!
That man has been waiting a decade to be a part of a worthwhile franchise.
@@vladpiranha definitely someday hopefully we will great Superman great Witcher both dead in the water
at least the books will always be there and so will the games
@@Afflictamine definitely
Thank you for this analysis. I'm a fan of "The Witcher" book series; I know these books almost by heart, and I was really, really looking forward to someone worthy adapting them into a screen version. Because this story deserves a good adaptation. Sapkowski wrote a great saga with complex characters, a well-thought-out world, and clear geography, where European cities and locations are easily recognizable. I feel like the showrunners simply lacked the education to understand what this story is about.
You draw parallels to compare it to Game of Thrones, and that's right. The source material also has such parallels. Game of Thrones is built on the War of the Roses and the story of Richard III. Almost all events and characters in Game of Thrones have real prototypes from real European history. And The Witcher is built on the legend of King Arthur. Not just on the legend, but specifically on the rendition by Thomas Malory. And, I'm afraid, the showrunners haven't read Malory. Plus, of course, Eastern European mythology, about which the creators of the series also have a very vague idea. However, I doubt they have read all eight volumes of Sapkowski's saga.
Andrzej Sapkowski wrote an absolutely cinematic work that could have been wonderfully adapted and made into a cult show. But they squandered it so ineptly.
A. S. wrote about places he knew and experienced. Polish countryside and village life. He made these seem real, because they are real. He wrote about the stories he heard and which he read. Polish Folklore and Legends. He gathered Myths from Eastern Europe and some from the West.
3 Dimensional Fantasy that is almost believable.
Unfortunately the West entertainment pimps only care about $$$. These morons got their claws into the goose that lays golden eggs and wrung its neck to get the sht out of it. They got their sht.
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Perhaps, in the near future, a Polish director will decide to create an East European version. Something for intelligent European audiences.
Thank you for this comment, they had it all, political entrigue, an amazingly complex world, adventure, magic, a likeable protagonist often faced witch challenging moral decisions.
I was skeptical wen I first saw Geralt being a silent brute, if anything he is cultured and insightful.
I remember in the last wish the standalone stories had chapters in between while Geralt was recovering from the striga attack, and those chapters had the most interesting conversations and perfectly set up the word and Geralts state of mind.
He should be around 80 and 100, in a word with such low life expectancy and illiteracy he is essentially a wise scholar, and we get to see this in the books and some in the games too, but the show made him look almost dumb.
Initially, I was highly skeptical of Henry Cavill playing Geralt but the integrity he displayed by refusing to be a part of the writers show of contempt for the fans and the IP itself proved to me that he was the only man for the job.
Can’t wait to see what he does with his upcoming 40K project
Never have I been so happy to be so wrong about something. Cavill won me over than I ever could have imagined and I gotta give the man oodles of credit. Super stoked for what he will hopefully be able to do with his Warhammer project. I never got into 40k but this will give the perfect opportunity to try
I think that might be my favorite part of this whole debacle. Yes, fans were upset with Cavill's casting and the shills got to scream I told you so when the fan opinion changed. And yet, the fans who readily admitted they were wrong got the last laugh as these shills drove him away, as well as all the people who actually watched the show. Just goes to show one side at least has the common decency to admit when they made a mistake; we will never see that from the shills or the people making this recent filth who drove Cavill out.
I was pretty optimistic about him just because I knew prior that he was a big fan of the series. However, I thought that because of him they would stay pretty true to the series but apparently he didn’t have much control over that
I actually started out skeptical as well. I personally thought at the time another actor (Zach McGowan) fit the build of Geralt better being rugged and made to look distrusted by people, fitting Geralt Witcher 1 & 2 vibes. But Cavill did well and his transformation into Geralt was great to see. It’s just the show runners and writing room consistently shutting the bed and killing this whole show.
I just hope said 40K project does not meet the same fate. However: GW is highly protective of their IP, so I guess there are some arrangements in the background to keep it consistent with previous lore and canon. We can but hope...
The worst part about this is that it really was an open goal. Unlike what would become of Game of Thrones, these showrunners had all of the setting and story material they could ever need laid out right in front of them in the form of the books. It was a free win, and they fucked it.
This is what happens when you confuse talented writers with untalented activists...
Ironically, the GOT showrunners probably wouldn't have screwed it up. They may have been hacks, but they were smart enough to realize that what they were adapting was written by someone smarter and better at it than them and there's nothing wrong with a faithful adaptation. Unfortunately for them, they ran out of material and their actual writing skills showed.
They kicked at the open goal, but turned around to gloat to their teammates, only for the ball to ricochet off the crossbar and beam them in the back of the head. Then HBO recovered the ball, dribbled it downfield and kicked it right in.
they had a blank check, but they didn't like the font it was written in so the binned it.
Totally agree, said it in another comment but they had great books and a GOTY to look at and take direct, great monsters and stories from. The fact they thought they knew better and still gave everyone the middle finger shows how horrible this entire thing has fallen.
I honestly spent the whole season 2 and 3 confused as to who was who, where they were from and what their motives for fighting were.
The plot is confusing. I never read the books but basically each kingdom fighting for power and they're all looking for Ciri who is the most powerful mage.
Don't worr1y. no one knew what was happening.
Same
Exactly the same. So many side-characters, never understood kingdoms, nor the role of the mages.
PREACH!
I had a conversation with Lauren Hissrich before season 1. I told her all my concerns. She assured me I was mistaken. I said ok. I was not mistaken.
I definitely thought the geography problems detracted from the show. There was just no sign of where we were and how far it was from other places. But even worse for me were the power levels of the different principal individuals. Like, what could the magic users do, and how often? In season two a monster attacked the stronghold where many witchers had taken residence. I thought "Haha, bad move monster! These guys live for fights like the one you picked!" But noo, witchers started dropping like Star Trek redshirts. I just had to look at it and be like "If you say so, show" and accept that I had no idea who could beat whom with what. In season 1 the monsters defeated by Geralt seemed pretty serious. After that his adversaries didn't seem more serious. He just seemed nerfed. Magic just did whatever it needed to in order for the plotpoints to happen. I haven't read the books so maybe it's a problem there, but in the games, the geography and power levels are super clear so it's clear what the stakes are when x fights y.
And then in Season 3, a half-dead Ciri beats a giant desert monster to death with a piece of its own armor plate because she gets slightly pissed off. In a long, boring episode, one of only two that were released, that's clearly trying to do some character building for her, but I'm still not sure what?
While Geralt lies half-dead because some wizard we don't really give a toss about beat him a bit with a stick.
What a criminal waste of a show, source material and cast.
@@joristimmermans5058to be fair vilgefortz did beat him up pretty badly besides the show too
The witch that did that to the witchers was talked about as doing this to the witchers in the past. She was stronger than the monsters
To be fair, the books don't have a hard magic system and the limitations of sorcerers aren't clear at all. Which in the story work fine because we mainly follow non-magic users (Geralt only knows minor spells which he barely use, those are actually well defined. As for Yennefer, the focus isn't on her magical abilities). But if you want to make a show and promote a powerful sorceress to protagonist and have her do lot of fighting, wyou need to rethink carefully.
@@otrof6203yeah vilgefortz seemed pretty badass in the books, being an accomplished sorcerer and soldier and all. I believe even Geralt thought he would get beaten to shit if he had to fight him
Cavill: "Hey, maybe we should try to have the show follow the books better."
Netflix: "No. Go pound sand. We'll do whatever we want cause the books are stupid."
Cavill: "Okay. Sayonara jackasses."
Netflix: *Shocked Pikachu Face.*
I feel legitimately sad for Henry with how all of this turned out. I really hope his Warhammer 40k show pans out well, he's got far more heart than most of Hollywood put together and seeing him fight uphill just to make something he knows the fans actually want is extremely frustrating.
That's the thing one door closes another opens. GW are the extremely protective of their IP. It's safer then alot of other Franchises right now.
If the showrunner turns out to be female with a mostly female writing staff then any 40k project is doomed as well.
@@galidornelkenmeer Games workshop for all its faults won't let that happen, they are over protective of their IP. they know what's happening and are in their own words "only interested in making money" they know woke doesn't sell.
The Witcher would’ve worked if season 1 was episodic having Gerald facing a new problem/ new job in a new town every episode. It would’ve highlighted and differentiated the differences of each faction on top of exploring unique regions
Henry should do his own witcher series, staying true to the lore. I'd pay for that
Yup
Bump - a love this idea.
Man I bet you if he said he wanted to crowd fun the series, he probably could get enough money out of it.
Anyone want to start a petition? I'll sign and back the crowd funding.
He's doing a Warhammer 40k show on Prime and he's the executive producer. 40k is superior to The Witcher and it's Cavill's favorite IP.
Man, they had a potential GOT like goldmine with this franchise but managed to monumentally destroy it. A story rich lore and a perfect casting of Geralt, where the actor is a fan and initially treated it as a passion project.
Unfortunately the writers/activists knew better than the source material and the fans.
Yep, should at least been a 8 season show. More than enough material...
Hopefully there will be a new and better attempt of adapt the Witcher books into a show.
@@thenamesianna I'd still be bitter because Cavill really surprised me, albeit he's built more like the game Geralt than the books but he was fantastic. It will be a hard sell for anyone else to play him.
You hit the nail on the head with Blood Origin - this was an open window into the real thought process and goals behind the writers. They absolutely revealed their true intentions when they were allowed to do whatever they wanted with that one.
It's a shame how things turned out for this show. It started with everything to succeed, the perfect cast for the protagonist and a whole fandom awaiting this franchise to finally be explored, along with a totally new public to aim for. And here we are now.....