No. The NK came south to find and ask someone what the fuck he was supposed to do with all those zombies and lately a dragon that were thrown at him. He thought asking the 3-balled raven was where to start.
I had been downloading every episode right from the very first, but I watched the last season on HBO. Within days of the final episode, I deleted all my downloaded files and dumped the entire show. Completely un-watchable.
Started rewatching the series. Just finished season 4. I think I'll stop there and pretend it just ends with Arrya, Tyrion, and Varys sailing away forever. What a great show.
@@chucksmalley3987 there were some cool scenes from the later seasons like when the hound hacked those raiders to death or when Cersi nuked King's Landing but that last season just pissed me off
Wrong. They tried to dig their way out of several thousand tonnes of stone bricks, the tragedy is when they almost reached the top, they ran out of strength and died.
I love how the previous episode, the dungeon collapsed entirely. Every wall, archway and brick in the place fell like dominos. Next episode, like 10 bricks in an empty room.
Adam Collins Wealie boi became king cause who is going to be king except the Psychic Computer brain. Who has pulled a Doctor Strange and looked at all possible outcomes and went with the one he became king. Cause a person who has seen all of human history can’t be anything else.
The ending to this show was so bad i forgot it even existed. Literally everyone i knew was always talking about this show... and then the last season happened, and everyone pretended the show never existed. They managed to remove it from everyones mind, which is an insane accomplishment when the show used to be good
It was never good to begin with. Five different times I gave this shitshow a chance, as people just wouldn't shut up about this crap. What sort of brain damage has one to have to be able to enjoy this kind of neandering, unimaginative, debaucherous and frivolous dribble? Massive vaste of decent actors and obviously talented costumers. Haven't people read, seen or heard about good stories? Getting a library card should be free in most countries.
Things that doesn't matter: -John's lineage -Jaime's arc -Arya's shapeshifting skills -Bran warging abilities -Prince that was promised -Azor Ahai -Lord of Light -horse at the end of episode 5
That horse was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. It was funny in a similar fashion to when Walter found out skylar took all the money from the crawl space
This is exactly what I said to my wife. It was like watching EastEnders set in westeros. They even cut an argument half way through, pure soap classic. FFS!
10 years later, people still talks about Harry Potter. 20 years later, people still talks about LOTR. 4 years later, no one talks about Game of Thrones. Thats how much they fucked up at the end.
The star wars sequels are a pile of hot human excrement. The end of Game of Thrones was pretty bad but the beginning was amazing. It's a good thing House of the dragon is a good show
@@kene301187 So basically he steals my plan for winning battle royals of just chill until every is dead or out of ammo and hitpoints, then I just swoop in for the win when no one is expecting it.
The earlier episodes spoke of debts to the iron bank. Whose representative looked like he could murder you with a quill tipped pen. There was talk of needing time to rebuild armies and resources. Talk of payments and logistics. Where the fuck did all of that go?
Yeah funny how that works eh? Maybe they grow on trees or are tubers like potatoes and just happened to be ripe before the battle 🤣 And maybe Adolf Targaryen still can’t count higher than 20, and Dan & Dave think the audience can’t count either so they just throw forces around without a thought Really, how dumb do D&D think we all are? Did they really think no one would notice??
Jon Snow's entire dialogue in season 8: -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is YOUR queen -She is my queen -You are my queen
What maddens me is that the story was always grounded in political truths: a ruler cannot be strong if succession is not assured, which is why Dany was targeted by assassins and Joffrey's illegitimacy mattered. Suddenly a Targaeryan with a legitimate claim on the throne can be banished on a promise not to come back and contest things and a king can be appointed who can never produce a dynasty - guaranteeing the civil war will start again when Bran dies. Nice one 👍
Dude, same and well said. It's pointless and stupid to have a Stark on one throne and a Stark on the other. The point? Especially when one can't breed wtf... The best way to fix that would be to have the actual classic hero (Jon Snow) with the legitimate claim to the throne defeat the Night King, saving all mankind, and having the stealth assassin (Arya Stark) or the trusted hand (Tyrion) take out the mad queen in one of their clever fashions. This would leave Jon open to taking the reigns alongside his cousin Sansa, uniting the entire continent of wildings, northerners, and southern Targaryen loyalists. If the eunuch army got their panties in a twist, then Melisandre could have used Jon's kings blood to awaken one of the stone dragons on Dragonstone, easily wiping out the foreign threat. Uniting the Stark and Targaryen houses is what will bring stability and peace to the entire realm. Literally everyone but the "writers" knew this, but I guess subverting expectations gave them a bigger boner than writing a cohesive and satisfying story that dozens of people dedicated over a decade of their lives to create.
I’ve been reading up a lot on the Wars of the Roses… which GoT is kinda based on (dynastic wars due to crisis in succession). Problem for a TV show is its theme doesn’t conclude… the wheel never breaks! And the writers had no way of imagining a way out of that conundrum. Same with George M. should Dany rule? Why? Should jon? Why? The only conclusion to war is legacy. Which is why Return of the King ending was so boring.
@@theManishMuse 100% legacy. It made no sense for 2 Starks to rule the north and south, and the south to have an impotent king that couldn't produce heirs. That leads to warfare and why a Queen bearing sons was always so important. Daughters weren't ideal, but they could reign if all else failed and preserve peace. Jon and Dany would have been able to unite both the north and south with their bloodlines, but Jon and Sansa/Arya would have achieved the same result if Dany was destined to die. So many viable and interesting options but they went with Bran the Boring... -.-
@@intpleb4206 it doesn't even have to be clever. Jon is the male heir. He technically killed Dany who was a usurper since the rightful heir Jon was still alive. He broke no laws by killing her and should've immediately been crowned king.
And it gonna cost HBO BILLIONS meanwhile they could of just fired dumb and dumber after season 5 and made 7 more seasons and made more BILLIONS, I swear people are not thinking.
C) The fact that 10 minutes into the series' pilot established the white walkers as a credible and ominous threat not to be tied up in a single episode by a character that had no emotional attachment to the arc.
Tragic...I've heard no talk of GOT since it ended. Nobody talking of how they miss it, or wishing they'd bring it back. Before the eighth season, i often spoke of buying the complete series once it ended to rewatch over and over. Now i no longer want to as the last season destroyed the series. Knowing how stupid and lame it all ended killed all the passion to reinvest my time in a worthless cause. R.I.P GOT.
I feel the same way. I used to live for GOT. The ringtone on my cell is even the GOT theme. But once the series ended, I just didn't give a shit about it anymore.
That's truly the greatest tragedy of all. They didn't just kill the show. They retroactively ereased everything good about it from existence. They made sure that what arguably used to be, and should have been the greatest TV show of all time will be remembered as nothing more than a bitter disappointment, and in a few years, even that will have been forgotten. It will become nothing more than another entry in the long list of dead franchises that we all wasted our time on. Thinking about this SHOULD make me furious, but the sad thing is that I don't even care enough anymore to laugh about it. I'm just done.
Totally agree, I lived for every new season, watched every episode multiple times waiting for the following week, watched other people’s reaction vids to kill time, bought every blue ray and now it all seems so stupid after the last two seasons totally killed the years I invested.
My friends' honest words about GoT: "We need to find another show to watch." That's how much it meant to them, and they'd been trying to convince me to watch it for years.
4 years later, and I'm still pissed off for the choices they made. Years of waiting, excitement, expectations, all flushed down the toilet in two seasons. Amazing.
I am no longer piseed off. For a long time, I was, because I wanted someone who has reach and audience to say it as it is, but all the youtubers and other media criticising the last season of GoT were trying to be polite and academic. They just couldn't or wouldn't say it as it is, that it is a pure shit. But a year or os after the season wrapped up, I found critical drinker, and he said it as it is. His reviews finally helped me to get over the shitfest that was the season 8 of GoT. And I am forever thankful to him for that.
What pissed me the most was the decision to exile John, a person who had always worked for the good. Throughout the series, everything he did was to protect everyone. He did nothing for his own good and sacrificed his life to save everyone and betrayed his queen in the end, because it was the right thing to do, despite all of this, even though he had the legitimate right to rule, love Of people and leadership skills, he ends up being banished to nowhere, even if he doesn't become king, at least king in the north, or lord commander, or lord of a somewhere , he is the character who is supposed to get a good ending that suits his efforts and his character development throughout the story.Even in an imaginary world we cannot see a good person rewarded for his efforts!! The scene when he was riding beyond the wall with the free folks was a heart broking ,he doesn't belong to the wild
I guess the Wildlings all forgot that they had been granted lands to the south of the wall and that they had been fighting for generations to get south of the wall specifically to acquire those lands so they didn't have to keep scraping a miserable living from the frozen rocks of a barren tundra. I guess they all came down with that amnesia bug that seems to have been going around in season 8.
It's like you expect the people that write four out of six of the last episodes to give a fuck about it? What's wrong with you? Don't you know who you're dealing with?
Yep. The Wildlings were the Mongols. The Wall in GoT is the Great Wall, ostensibly to keep out Mongol warriors, but actually to keep out Mongol trade and keep Mongols out of China. What was a deeply meaningful story resonant with actual human history and complexity becomes a stupid Hollywood Western trope. "Go North young man!" Just stupid.
The Wildlings are the Picts (or Scots). That is Hadrian's Wall not the Great Wall of China (pretty sure GRR said something along those lines at one point). Hadrian's Wall was the wall at the end of the world. The Dothraki are sort of the Mongols, though Mongol cavalry were much heavier armoured and had more archers.
HAHAHA! Yeahhh that one one of the +/- 10 facepalm moments in the finale. Apparently I missed Davos telling the Unsullied to settle down and START FAMILIES, but there still were plenty more.
The writing of D&D. These twats got a Star Wars trilogy based on the writing of GRRM. Disney CEO Bob Iger said he hasn't been paying attention to GoT the last few seasons lol. I mean WTF? Do resumes mean anything anymore? Lets hire some guys to handle one of the most popular stories of all time so lets not look into their previous work or how well it was received. Unbelievable.
@@eternalreign2313 You'd think after Rian (I'm gonna fuck up star wars for everyone) Johnson they'd take more care. This really worries me after seeing GoT season 8.
Playing as a character who's more intelligent that you are is also pretty hard. I mean, sure, you can just go "Intelligence check!" at every occasion, but that sounds a bit cheap.
What honestly boiled my skin was the fact that Jon is the true heir to the throne and NO ONE THOUGHT TO MENTION THIS AT THE END?! Then he’s banished to the Watch but just leaves? Then Bran is just supposed to bow to an unsullied prick who is the commander to a dead queen (meaning he literally has no say or purpose anymore) What the serious flying fuck
@@davidpanepento2998 I would have been ok with Jon not becoming king at the end if it made sense. Jon made it clear that he didn’t want to rule, so why not have him pass the crown off to someone he deems fit? Or maybe he accepts the crown to finish what Dany had originally started? I’ve listened to many other people give ideas on how the show should have ended that are light years beyond than what D&D pooped out.
I gave up watching about 1/2 way through and my husband summarized it for me afterwards. ETA: Just for reference, I've been loyally watching since S1E1 aired, but God...
Notice how Arya, Sansa and Bran were all in King’s Landing at the same time? Apparently ‘there must always be a Stark in Winterfell’ is no longer a thing either
@@CODA96 He probably warged into some poor person's body and used him as a remote controlled puppet in Winterfell while he was half paying attention to what was being said in front of him. That could explain the fact that he first said that he didn't want the throne and then said that this was what he had been working towards to all this time.
@@MarcelNL Exactly Marcel. Bran also warged into Ned Stark and let him be killed on purpose. He also warged into Walder Frey and executed his brother and mother. He also warged into Dany AND her Dragon at the same time: Dany never wanted to be Queen of Ashes, but Bran made her do it! And at the end, Bran warged into Jon and he killed Dany, it was just supposed to look like bad storywriting. Proof me wrong, i can explain ANYTHING with ''Bran did it''.
just turned her in to a world domination cartoon villain .she came to Westeros to break wheel meaning stop the power struggle cycling over and over again then they made her want everyone to kneel and shit like wtf she never even asked slave masters to kneel .
They were trying to play the angle of her being a Targaryen and inheriting the "mad gene". It's just that nothing really indicated at her being THIS mad. She was cruel towards the end, sure, but not this batshit insane where she suddenly decides to torch innocent people and the city she wants to conquer and rule. What was she going to do with the throne and the city afterwards? It's been razed to the ground. It makes zero sense.
@@sleepysleeper3485 If she’s gone “mad” she doesn’t have to make sense, her burning down Kings Landing made as much sense to her as it did to her father. It was also foreshadowed all the way back in season 2 that she was going to destroy Kings Landing in the house of the undying, you literally see the Throne room destroyed. So her going mad and burning them all was always going to happen it’s just that the writers didn’t allow proper build up to it
@@josephstalin2606 give me a break. It was horrible writing. Dany went “mad” and killed people for absolutely no reason. If she didn’t value human life at all, why did she care so much about freeing the slaves? Her entire story makes no sense. D&D are the worst writers in human history.
Daenerys burning down Kings Landing is extremely symbolic. Daenerys symbolizes D&D, and Kings Landing symbolizes the show. And the innocent people of Kings Landing are the fans. Good job D&D. Dumpster fire doesn't even begin to describe this. D&D didn't even try with season 8. Didn't even try.
@@Fabi_87 Look, I understand the appeal of looking to the books for a satisfying end to an amazing saga, but let's get real here. Martin is going to die of a massive heart attack before he finishes the next book, let alone two of them. I mean, he's always written slowly but this absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure if he's simply lost his passion or if he is just incapable of writing a good ending to a book series that is visibly struggling under it's own weight. Either way, he's well into his seventies and weighs as much as a Mini Cooper so I can't imagine a reality where he lives long enough to complete his work. Not when he's currently working at a pace of roughly a decade per book.
@@bredincaptivity4692 They'll hire someone to finish them for him, if he leaves enough notes/instructions on what he was going to do. They did it with Branden Sanderson for The Wheel of Time. They might do it again.
George RR Martin carried this show. As soon as he was out it went steeply downhill. Weiss and Benioff were incapable from the beginning. They were just lucky they had Martin
I mean the dude had a history writing books and for TV shows. So he atleast had a good idea of its ins/outs/pitfalls. That being said he should have never sold the rights until he was on his last book. He was naive to think they wouldn't catch up to his writing and blinded by the mountain of cash HBO dumped on his doorstep.
@@pokeman5000 Its to bad we don't get to see the final vision of his story played out on the screen. Maybe he thought he'd pull off a JK Rowling and finish the series while the books were being adapted.
I am of the Opinion that The Reason the Last 2 Seasons and the ending being Trash, we’re because the Last 2 books aren’t finished and there was no source Material to pull from. I hate to Shit on the man, but you have had 10 years to finish that God damn book let alone his series so He is just as responsible for this show going down hill. I am also skeptical where or not the ending to the books will be worth a damn.
it's not that hard. just imagine how a character would react in real life situations. You need to read some elementary things about logic and common sense and you are set.
"What would an evil mastermind who relies entirely on depection do when the lord looks him square in the face and quotes his own evil motto at him, making it obvious that the jig is up?" "Uuhmm... stick around and keep trying?"
The worst part was the Danae and Cersi showdown. It was built up over 7 seasons and we were expecting some massive battle between the two. And then Cersi is...buried by rubble. What an anticlimax.
And in Season 8, they never have a conversation and only staring at each other. Even Sansa out of people have a conversation with her and even own Daenerys by asking her "What about The North?" When she's finally conquer Westeros. The only time they talked was on the end of Season 7 in Dragonpit andddd that's it!
I watched Mauler's season 8 videos recently and he brought up a question I hadn't thought of - what exactly made Dany stop attacking? The troops/city had already surrendered, Cersei was killed by coincidence with no way of Dany knowing about it, was it just an actual kill count she was after? I've had breakups that hurt less than this shows final season
@breathe3146 but the subversion of expectations didn't fit the characters. Cersi is a cold blooded sociopath who is not afraid of death. So to show her dying in fear and tear s - even with Jamie at her side - goes against the character we know. Danae by contrast is supposed to be her opposite. Yes OK she has streaks of her fathers nature in her. But even when she invades westeros in season 7, we see her compassion as she first touches the ground. To go from that to a complete dictator seems totally out of character
@@xshadionytpx7891 Don't get me started how Anakin and Luke's story were pissed on by Disney. I watched Forces Awakens and all my friends gave me shit because I thought it was weak lol. It makes me mad because there are better stories in the expanded universe and video games then that shit show.
What was the point of Arya's faceless powers if she didn't use them once this season? Why was Jon a Targaryen if it made no difference in the plot? Why did Drogon think a chair killed Dany?
@@kurdia100 That seems to be the sort of symbolism they wanted to convey, but er, when did dragons become capable of making such sophisticated philosophical distinctions? They have only ever proved themselves capable of understanding a single word. They are intelligent creatures, but the idea that Drogon somehow intuits that the desire for power (the Iron Throne) is more responsible for the death of his mother than the guy he just watched stab her to death, is, for want of a better word, fucktarded
@@kurdia100 Him being a Targaryen is not a very good explanation as to why the dragon didn't kill him. Targaryans fought Targaryans before in succession wars. An example is a civil war known as "the dance of the dragons" between Rhaenyra and her brother Aegon II. It all ended with Rhaenyra being captured and Aegon feeding her to his dragon while forcing her son to watch. I guess you could argue that Drogon "knows" Jon. But he hasn't really known him for that long so it's a pretty lame excuse to me. It seemed like the writers just wanted to have that cool scene because of SiiiMboLisM so they put it in there without thinking too much about it.
Yes, me too, although I'm also looking forward to Alt Shift X's review later, if he bothers. I'm not sure I would. What a 'FUCK YOU' this series turned out to be.
Who has a better story than Bran the Broken? The man who willingly joined the Nights Watch, went beyond the Wall, joined wildlings, climbed that fucking wall on his way back, escaped the wildlings attack, commanded the Castle Black against the wildlings attack, befriended Tormund - the enemy, went to negotiate to hostile Hardome territory, killed a Walker, survived the massacre, got killed, got revived, won the bloody North with a bunch of wildlings, avenged the Red Wedding, became a king, united North, had the balls to go to Dragonstone, had the balls to go to Beyond the Wall again, had the balls to tell Cersei "no knee for you, I already serve Daenerys" in Kings Landing and last but not least, had his own dragon But Bran fell from tower and survived so now he knows useless stuff about history and things, cuz thats more interesting I guess...
''But Bran fell from tower and survived so now he knows useless stuff about history and things, cuz thats more interesting I guess...'' Yes, in fact it IS more interesting than yet another man-hunk/Aragorn-clone taking the throne based on how well he can swing a sword. You sound like Joffrey when he boasted he was gonna hack Tyrion's history book to shreds. You totally don't get the point of the show. People who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. BTW, which country are you from? Did the president of your country wrestle a bear, journey to the South Pole shirtless or something? Is THAT the basis of choosing a good ruler?
@@SerbAtheist I guess letting corruption rot your government and fuck your people in the ass on a daily basis makes one much better candidate for a president than doing a manly deed.
It was actually impressive what the writers actually did. They created the most amazing TV show to exist, they may not even be able to make one that is better. And then they destroyed it in an also insanely amazing way that they destroyed its legacy and memory with it. There are very few shows or films that have ever self-destructed so amazingly well.
They did not create anything they bought someone else's intellectual property and turned it into a TV show. It's like me making a mod for Skyrim to turn into a multiplayer game and then saying I created the best video game in existence.
@@henriccarlsson9052 MauLer is another YT critic, and he was less than happy about Jon ditching Ghost. Look up "Game of Thrones: S08E04: An Unbridled Rage"
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"I know a killer when I see one" -Arya Stark the Genius, just after almost being viciously killed by Daenerys for an entire episode, along with hundreds of thousands of innocent people What an amazingly wise observation! What meaningful input!
Got to love the hypocrisy and irony. "Why are you here Arya? To kill Cersie but your girlfriend killed her first. She is a killer" And what the heck are you? Was Arya going to tickle Cersie to death?
I WANTED to like Arya but the interviews with that egotistical Maise were such a turn-off. She acted as if she were some type of Wonder Woman because SHE was selected to make "the kill". Arya was just another "tool" in an empty and meaningless toolbox.
@@aileenpi73 Even if she tickled Cersei to death she'd still be killing her. No, instead she showed up, changed her mind after the Hound gives her a logical directive which he admits is contrary to his illogical one, and, glancing down at the map room floor, noticed hey, even this map is stopping West of Westeros, what's up with that? Got a new purpose now, gotta go, Sandor, thank you! She kind of forgot about who she was intermittently (after the hit on the head that concussed her during the exit from King's Landing and made her hallucinate that white horse).
Remember, "A Dance with Dragons" was published in 2011. We are now 12 years later and "The Winds of Winter" is still in the works, with the final book "A Dream of Spring" clearly not coming out this century.
That first bit with Tyrion searching in the rubble - there's no conflict, nothing to provide drama. We're just watching him act. Then later when we get that extreme closeup of his face - it just seemed to never end. I was checking my watch, half unsure if the video was just paused.
@@firebush1343 I actually quit watching in season 5, but came back and finished for the release of season 8. So personally my expectations were not high, but even so seasons 7 and 8 were particularly sub-par.
@@WalterLiddy Lol, we had actually paused the video at that point (toilet break or some other thing more interesting than the show) and when we sat down again, after some time my wife said, impatiently, "play it then"; "it IS playing I said" as the imp slowly moved an eye. "Oh", she said...
So Jon being a Targaryian that was built up for ages actually means NOTHING. Bran being the 3 eyed raven actual meant NOTHING. So much wasted. I just pray the books if they ever get written actually makes this make sense.
i just came here after 3 yrs to say bran is the most evil person in the show he saw the future and let all those ppl die so he can become king 🤮 also jon is still a bastard .raegar was married to elia martell .thats why he secretly married Lilyanna just to fool her
I can never forgive how they turned Tyrion, one of the most interesting, clever and witty characters into a whatever he was by the end of GoT. Its the only purpose he was there was because he was a fan favorite and needed to be on the screen for that purpose only. He was basically turned into an empty uniform that said whatever was needed for whatever shitty plot point they were trying to do in a specific episode
At season three: Friend: Do you watch GoT? It's amazing. Me: Nah, I'm not into modern story telling. Friend: This is different, it's so good, you'll like it. At season seven: *Crickets* After ending: Me: So should I watch GoT? Friend: *Grumbles*
They kept around just to deliver the who has a better story than bran line. They thought the Tyrion fan base would just accept that line cuz he delivered it, I think they knew if he didn't deliver it literally NO ONE would have bought. I mean not many did buy it....
@@Ackalan seasons 1-4 were good, then they ran out of the book material and it all went to shit, not to mention they were left unsupervised by GRRM Also BTW if you're 'not into modern storytelling' what are you even doing on the channel that's all about it? You should probably be on the channel about Shakespearean plays or something
He was my favorite character. Absolutely pissed all over his character by the end. He became predictable and in many ways unpredictable for all the wrong reasons. His cleverness that kept him alive was completely destroyed as his decision making was terrible. I'm surprised he wasn't killed off as every choice he made was wrong.
All these people freaking out like every joke on the internet isn't stolen and reused a million times. I'll do you guys one better. I made this joke while watching the episode when it first aired. Get on my level.
The single most impressive thing about this episode was that it was so bad that the world went into lockdown just under a year after it aired with little more to do than find something to fill the days, and nobody was even talking about the other 7 seasons.
The story of the rise and fall of GoT is like a Greek tragedy. It was at one point the most fucking incredible show to have existed, that had the biggest fanbase in the world who were obsessed with endless theories about how it would end. Wherever you went, GoT would come up in conversation as casually as football. It was a phenomenon, lightning in a bottle. It was arguably the biggest pop culture touchstone of the 2010`s. And then season 8 happened. In just a handful of episodes they managed to completely crumble the towering monolith they had built. GoT was now a joke, and will forever be remembered as thus. It was so bad it made us question if the show was ever really good from the get go. And if was all because of the staggering hubris of the show's creators and the laziness of the original author. Even if it had stuck the landing in a bumpy way, the show still would have been remembered as an amazing achievement. But they didn't so much land, as more like crash to earth and torch the entire runway. Thus it will remain as a cautionary tale to all those who want to know how not to finish a series.
They Rian Johnsoned the white walkers. What was supposed to unite the kingdoms, just to end up back where they were from the start, divided. What an incredible story arc.
Dude, it’s not just the white walkers. A lot of the story arcs either go nowhere, or end up back where they started. Like Jon, for instance. Despite everything he’s gone through, despite everything he’s accomplished, he just ends up banished to the Wall again like the bastard he was in season 1. Great...🙄 Or Jamie’s redemption taking an about-face and ending up right back where he started. Guess that character arc is more of a circle now.
Because if they mention Jon then all the other claims don't much make sense. So if they just don't mention it, maybe they'll forget that Jon is really the only King that makes sense.
@Frank Castle The entire premise of Jon being the actual king was that he was the BETTER king. The people loved him and he cared for the people. Daenyris did not. That didnt stop D&D from throwing everything outta the fucking window for *but mah wheelchair person can be king too xdddd*
mybuttons11 I always raged at the fact that jon didn’t marry Daenerys because that would have solved all their relationship problems, the question of who’s the true Heir and United the North again with the south. (And atleast in Medieval Europe you could marry your Aunt, and even if it is considered incest in Westeros, fuck that, incest is tradition in the house of Targaryen)
Having not read the books I could still tell when they ran out of the author's source material. It was so obvious. It just took a turn and you knew that something was missing and it was not good. Unbelieveable that they managed to ruin it so completely.
The sad thing is that they didn’t run out of source material. They stopped adapting it after season 4. Book 4 and five never got to screen and they are both thick fuckers with plenty of stuff going on. With only these two they could have made another two or even three seasons giving the author the time to finish his damned book, and if he still hasn’t then just use the shit ton of sample chapters he released for yet another season. But they were like « nah we’re smarter than him we’ll figure it out »
I haven't seen the show but I heard they started departing significantly well before that. Although they probably still got worse when they didn't even have that to prop them up.
True. From season 7 it was just pointless anti climax battles and no main characters died. That’s when you know it was not written by George R.R. Martin
Yeah instead he just gets sentenced to hangout with his friends up north. And if Greyworm and all of Dany's men are leaving westeros, why do the other kingdoms agree to punish Jon and Tyrion
@@spawncampe Better yet, why is Tyrion punished because he was the Queen’s hand, but the Queen’s literal ARMY responsible for single-handedly slaughtering countless of innocents after she went mad not given any type of punishment? Tyrion is imprisoned, but these guys are somehow still free to make demands?
Imagine their star wars sequels were even worse... Imagine they somehow managed to not only be forgettable, but to make you unable to ever enjoy episode 1-6 and clone wars ever again.
@@Ghost-ql3hl But you can still enjoy ep 1 ,2, clone wars, 3, 4, 5, 6 Because that story has a solid ending. GoT doesn't have that. They managed to F-up the ending so dramatically, you can't even rewatch season 1 to 6, because you know you're watching it for nothing
Even better, in House of The Dragon, those two dumbasses are not the director anymore and they got Martin as the screen writer again. Even Martin looks like competely giving up to write the last 2 books of ASOIAF and decided to write HOTD and Elden Ring instead.
I haven’t heard anyone mention the second to last episode in which Dany INEXPLICABLY decides to flip a complete 180 and massacre thousands of innocent people. The final episode was irrelevant at that point because the credibility of the characters was already erased.
I binged this whole series in the past two weeks and I was honestly so confused as to why she did that?? Like seeing her character from season one to 8 change so abruptly was like wth???
Greyworm: I execute everyone that even dares to NOT bend the knee to my queen Jon: I literally KILLED our Queen Greyworm: Eh, you can go to the wall, i dont care.
Yeah...What the fuck is up with Grey Worm? They gave HIM the power to decide the fate of Jon Snow AS IF somehow he was a main character. Grey Worm did nothing but follow Dany's orders and contributed little to nothing to the story.
Dude probably blabbed his mouth the second he saw someone, for some reason Jon Snow doesn't understand the concept of keeping a secret or just shutting up about literally anything. It's the same reason he just had to tell Cersei he bent the knee to Daenerys when it would guarantee Cersei wouldn't help them. The writers just made him stupid because, well why not?
@@natb9919to be real, that's how all the Stark men were; to fuckin' honest. Talk too damn much. Revelling plans to your enemies and thinking sh!t sweet afterwards.
I love how in season 7 Daenerys specifically said that her father was an evil man and she knew what he did wasn't right, and now they try to spin it that she did all this because it's her idea of what 'right' is. So not only did she go crazy overnight, her entire personality and moral compass did a 180 overnight too. I also love how Jon lost all agency this season. He got his destiny stolen by Arya and he got his choices stolen by Tyrion and Greyworm. Instead of coming to the decision on his own, and voluntarily going north.
caffineandshiny part of the problem was that they didn’t give themselves enough time to depict a believable slow decline into insanity / amorality/ despotism for D. The last 2 seasons have been like a spring finish which suggests they didn’t have the ability to develop and conclude the plot lines from the book.. I thought Stannis Baratheon was a perfect example of this..
The most honorable man in the Realm was a complete tool in season 8. Then, because it's written, he throws all that honor away by killing his Queen, and disobeying the rules of the Night's Watch. Part of me is shocked he didn't start yelling at Drogon when Drogon was yelling at him.
When Arya said "I know a killer when I see one" I burst out laughing. Oh really? Is it not obvious? I guess maybe not for Jon, he's been so daft this season.
I rolled my eyes so hard on that line i almost got dizzy, fucking hell mate... you HAVE SEEN Daenerys before and never said anything, NOW that she burns the entire city you come up with the "I kNoW a KilLeR wHEn o SeE oNe" fuck off
Dany kinda forgot she liked children. Tyrion kinda forgot he was smart. Jaime kinda fogot he cared about the innocent. Varys kinda forgot he was the scheming spider. The ruins of kings landing kinda forgot they were reduced to rubble. The dothraki kinda forgot they were wiped out. Arya kinda forgot she was an assassin. Grey worm kinda forgot Jon killed his queen. Drogon kinda forgot Jon killed his mother. The lords kinda forgot Jon saved Westeros. Jaime kinda forgot he was stabbed multiple times. Gilly kinda forgot she saw the dagger in the book. Bran kinda forgot there was no night's watch anymore. The wildlings kinda forgot to leave for the north when they said they would. The lords kinda forgot Jon was the true heir to the throne. Everyone kinda forgot the dothraki. Everyone kinda forgot there was always supposed to be a Stark in Winterfell. Everyone kinda forgot about the prophecies. Some suggestions from the comments and more of my own: The Iron Bank kinda forgot about their loan. The Faceless Men kinda forgot they wanted Arya dead. The Golden Company kinda forgot how to fight. Bran kinda forgot he had no power in the south. Bran kinda forgot he didn't want to rule. Little Finger kinda forgot he was sly. The woman in Winterfell Little Finger paid kinda forgot what she was being paid for. Sansa kinda forgot Brynden Tully was a good guy. The Iron Men kinda forgot they wanted independency. Everyone kinda forgot about Dorne. The scorpions kinda forgot about bullet drop. Dany kinda forgot Jorah asked her to put faith into Tyrion. Jon kinda forgot to speak. Dany kinda forgot about her dad. Cersei's soldiers kinda forgot to shoot the scorpions. Gregor Clegane kinda forgot to listen to Cersei and Qyburn. Qyburn kinda forgot to make wildfire. The wights kinda forgot to kill major characters.
"And Bran's like 'Yeah, whatever, I've got more prehistoric wheelchairs to browse.' " It seriously took me almost a full minute to stop laughing. 😂 Also, awesome Terry Funk reference!
What about the story of John fucking snow started from nothing never knew his parents rose to the top killed then brought back to life to become the king of the 7 kingdoms but noooo BRAN THE FUCKING BROKEN WHOS MIND IS ELSE WHERE AND DOESNT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING....
@@evoak8575 Are you saying they should have proposed to the Unsullied holding the city and Jon captive, that Jon should be the person who will decide how Jon is punished?
One thing was missing from this review: the fact that a huge fucking dragon is now roaming the world and the small council says (in your words) "Nah, it'll be fine". Amazing stuff. Doesn't change the fact that you're absolutely right; it's been nearly four years and how GoT was treated in the end still breaks my heart.
You guys are living proof of the fact that the destination defines the journey. Which is nice. Thank you for suffering in my stead and saving me the torture of this disappointment
@TruthWiz I think GoT season 8 is so bad that it ruins everything that came before it. Don't believe me? Try rewatching the earlier seasons knowing the horrible truth you know now. Maybe someday I'll drink enough bourbon to finally forget season 7 and 8 and enjoy 1-6 but that day is not today.
B. S. That’s what I’m most disgusted about. I absolutely loved this show. It’s an amazing dichotomy. Benioff and Weiss are amazing at bringing written words to life. We have 6 seasons of absolute brilliance. They are absolute hacks at creating fresh material. We have 1 season of total letdown, and 1 season of pure filth with 1 episode I actually like.
@Mr Pickles Breaking Bad, Death Note (even though it's anime), Spartacus, Prison Break (excluding Final Break and Season 5) or Walker Texas Ranger (guilty pleasure of mine) all have endings that do them justice. It's a matter of keeping it fucking coherent.
"I can't believe Dany sailing to Westeros was the final scene of GoT. So sad that HBO decided to cancel the show after only 6 seasons, but atleast it ended on a high note." Almost fixed it for us.
This will be true for me. I've got 1-6 on bluray and wont ever buy 7 or 8. I'm planning to write a conclusion with a friend so I can just reject this d&d pos fanfiction.
@@RJ-cq8dd for me its 1 through 4 and I'll watch 5 just for Cersei killing those sparrow fucks. I bought the books cus of the shitty end so I hope I like those.
BRAN THE BROKEN, who dreamed that up? Such a huge disappointment and a slap in the face to all the faithful followers of Game of Thrones. We deserved better.
I will always divide GOT between GOT Seasons 1-4, seasons 5-6, and seasons 7-8. 1-4 were hands down among the greatest television in history. 5-6 were indicative of a slow decline in writing quality, but still had its share of excellent moments(Hardhome, Hold the door, etc.) 7-8 were when all creativity and intelligent writing was completely abandoned. Characters gained plot armor, something 1-4 never would’ve dared allow, previously smart characters were dumbed completely down for plot convenience, plot holes the size of the Grand Canyon began showing, and the abrupt killing off of the Night King actually ended the show for me(like, I legit didn’t watch the final 3 episodes of the show, since the Night King’s death killed the last shred of emotional investment I had in the show). It’s amazing just how much my admiration for the previous seasons of the show has been completely replaced by disgust and contempt for the laziness of the later seasons quality. It actually puts the Simpsons to shame in that regard.
I saw the Night King's death coming from a million miles away. Arya's development screamed Deus Ex. When she pulled that drop knife trick in the sparring session with Heavy-B I remember asking myself "Who is she gonna use that on? Valyrian steel... Night King." I think a lot of the unhappiness with the ultimate story 'twists' come from people ignoring the blatant foreshadowing on so many characters. Jon stayed true to form, Dany stayed on her inevitable path to becoming the very thing she claimed she was fighting against, etc. etc.
@@johnowen9349 Foreshadowing isn't character development. Also, that knife drop hint and Bran giving the Dagger to Arya in the first place was all made up by D&D. Jon's resurrection had everything to do with him killing the Night King, their fight was built up from the first season (most definitely in the books). You can't just take one instance of foreshadowing and say that it's enough to be believable. Once the writers lost the books, they took it in their own direction. GRRM himself stated that the writers overtook him, which he did not expect. They had Arya kill the Night King at the last minute and ignored everything they created with George in previous seasons to "subvert expectations". They said it themselves, they were really only invested for The Red Wedding (one of the best subversions EVER which... they TRIED with that last season.
It's mostly because season 1 to season 4 ep 9 adapted the books fairly closely with minor (for the book readers often annoying and maybe cheaper to the plot), not very influential changes - see Talisa/Jeyne Westerling). In the final episode of season 4, there were 2 crucial changes that started the doom of the show - no Tysha reveal and no Lady Stoneheart. Season 5 continued in the same manor and 80% of the books 4&5 did not get adapted. Some characters "followed" their book arcs in broad strokes (Dany, Jon, Arya, Theon, Cersei were kind of similiar though not the same at all, but you could say they were doing what they were supposed to in general), some only very vaguely (for example Tyrion made it to Illyrio and then to Dany's court and met Jorah on the way there, but everything about the journey was different including Tyrion himself, he was severely whitewashed in the, show and Brienne was indeed looking for Sansa with Pod in the books but that's where anything even remotly similiar ends - she travels with different characters, runs into Randyll Tarly and finally gets captured by the Brotherhood in the Riverlands and kidnaps Jaime - yeah, not even close to the show), some were drastically different (Sansa, Jaime, Asha/Yara, Euron) and didn't do even anything similiar to what they were supposed to be doing in the books. Then there were characters and plots that didn't even make it to the show but were crucial (all of Dorne, Victarion, Aegon and Jon Connington). Still, season 5 and 6 were somewhat watchable, though far from the greatness of the previous 4. Season 7 and 8 hit the rock bottom. It's practically unwatchable due to the bad writing. Nothing makes sense. It's not even entertaining bad. It's just bad. Which is a shame given the fantastic cast, music and effects.
The last episode felt like what happens when you're invested in writing an interesting essay and you suddenly realize the time is almost running out so you shove a bunch of mumbo jumbo to avoid handing in a hanging story
Remember when he said Tyrion wasn’t in it, as a crappy joke from D&D. Ugh, explain how the actual fuck Tyrion wasn’t in the book Sam? He’s the son of Tywin Lannister. His kidnapping in the north is pretty much what put the conflict in full swing since it led to Ned getting speared in the leg and bed ridden. He served as hand of the king in defense during the battle of black water. As far as everyone in Westeros knows HE IS THE ONE THAT KILLED JOFFREY!!! oh also, HE FUCKING KILLED TYWIN LANNISTER!!! He was also the hand for Daenerys, you know, the invading force that destroyed King’s landing. You would honestly have to go out of your way to not add Tyrion into the book. He played dozens of well documented, publicly known, crucial roles in the wars for the throne that their attempt to be funny, instead infuriated me.
There was a question that was ask in the pick of game of thrones success … “Is there something Lord of the rings has, that game of thrones doesn’t?”. Things that it had: -Awesome fight scenes. -Gore. -Drama. -Sex. - Magic. - Well written characters. -Dragons. - Giants. -Zombies. -Culture. -STAKES. The One thing that GOT didn’t have, that LOTR had. A well done ending.
GOT doesn't even have an ending. The show does, they never bothered to finish the books. And never will . Unless someone takes over and finishes it for him after he dies.
D&D wanted to give everyone a happy ending, totally forgetting that A Song Of Ice And Fire was never about happy endings. It was about consequences, for one. Remember Ed Stark and how he was loved and seemingly did everything right and by the book (of honor)? Guess what, that's not how the game of throne works, and he died for it. Everyone who made a mistake in the game of thrones was punished for it. And here we have season 8, where everyone can make the most dumb mistakes and not only get away with it, but rewarded for it. D&D really forgot what made the books and the early seasons of the show great. They valued fan service and nice visuals over great story telling. I can' t believe how dissapointed I still am about this. They had gold, but turned it into shit
Your point literally supports the ending. Jon is the main character and just like Ned he is too honest and ends up being banished to the north. Isn’t that a consequence, just like Ned losing his head?
@@Mallemartinnn valid point, but that is just one character who indeed faces consequences. And a consequence that isn't even all that bad for him. He knows the North and made it work before. Tyrion makes a ton of mistakes and never really gets in that much trouble.
@@royvandijk7119 i can see your point. You can notice when the books ended in the show. After season 6 no main characters die or suffer. There are indeed no consequences. Very un-GoT
In the final scene, Ghost should have attacked and killed Jon for being a dumb, animal neglecting Dany-puppet. Then Ghost barks loudly with subtitles translating: 'For the Watch!'
Went from “it doesn’t matter whose skeleton sits on the iron throne” to “the iron throne was always the main plot.” I cannot believe the White Walkers got tossed aside.
@@DielsonSales Right? The fucking catacombs collapsed. But when Tyrion gets there it's only a tiny piece of rubble in some corner? And the two of them are perfectly fine without a scratch. They would have been mush...such a waste.
I was hoping Tyrion was using the brick on Cersei's head because she got Jamie killed. Nope, Tyrion is sad his sadistic sister, who tried to kill him more than any one on the entire show, had died.
Apparently they're now employing Tyrion to go into earthquake zones in the hunt for missing persons. That little bugger can get into any hole and find a needle in a stack of needles.
You skipped the part about how the noble families are not only happy to accept Bran (a Stark) as their King, but even do so after Sansa declares the North is leaving- an event that would have triggered civil war in any earlier season. So a Stark will rule the 6 kingdoms even though the land of the Starks just seceded. And that the other kingdoms are fine with staying part of this broken empire that no longer has any central power, despite earlier wars for independence by the Iron Islands and Dorn.
Yeah what a mess of an episode, Yara was all "You killed my queen, my ally that swore the Iron Islands would be an independant kingdom! Why should I trust what you say?" and then hey, we're gonna put a Stark on the throne, and declare the north free, and send Jon up to probably become the king beyond the wall, cool Starks own 3/4's of Westeros now... 5 minutes later -- All in favor? "Yara: Aye." Wtf ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Eh well, of all the things that were a complete mess in this season I don’t really think this was one of them. The starks are an ancient people and were kings of the north far before anyone else. They have the blood of the first men. Considering the starks had just defend the realm from the invasion of the night king like they did thousands of years prior, if they say they want to be independent they have certainly earned the right to be far above anyone else. Kingship with the starks was such a big deal that when aegon decided to conquer westoros and kept winning all his battles then set his eyes for the North, the king of the starks then (Torren) decided to swear fealty to aegon rather than fight him. He was then known as torren stark, the king that knelt. No other king at that time bore such a title because they were never kings that long anyway. Basically north independence is the most important independence if you look to the history of Westeros so I don’t mind that in the show people didn’t object, it makes sense.
@@LegendInThaMakin "Considering the starks had just defend the realm from the invasion of the night king like they did thousands of years prior, if they say they want to be independent they have certainly earned the right to be far above anyone else." - wasn't that a co-op effort? And also wasn't Dany forces the main defense?
I think the worst possible thing that was left was the motive of the night King, the importance of Bran and their connection. I was really hoping to see some massive reveal about Bran being the night king or something. Just a waste of a show, still upsetting to think about the last 3 seasons
The Night King was trying to kill Bran to save us from this disappointment
I've been thinking the same thing since Episode 3 this Season.
The night king was our champion
And Jaime's kingslaying level was so high, he tried to kill the king 8 seasons ago. (Not my joke)
he was the hero in the story.
No. The NK came south to find and ask someone what the fuck he was supposed to do with all those zombies and lately a dragon that were thrown at him. He thought asking the 3-balled raven was where to start.
The best joke I've heard is that the reason dragon melted down the Iron Throne was to make a ramp for Bran.
Chaos is a wheelchair ramp...
Hahhahahaha
Dayuuuuum.
Plus he wouldn't really need the iron throne, since....you know. He brought his own chair.
Best joke I heard was that the most ridiculous part of the final season was the idea that someone actually finished writing A Song of Ice and Fire.
The last season not only destroys the show's legacy, but it completely kills its rewatchability
Spot on. It’s actually heartbreaking 😢🤣
I had been downloading every episode right from the very first, but I watched the last season on HBO. Within days of the final episode, I deleted all my downloaded files and dumped the entire show. Completely un-watchable.
The only way to rewatch it is by stopping at the end of season 6 and pretending that the show was cancelled after that
@@voctur
yep. Season 7 is where it started going south. There were head-scratching plot choices there already.
@@darylwilliams7883 By the moment they said they were going to finish the show in just 13 episodes I knew it was going to be bad
Started rewatching the series. Just finished season 4. I think I'll stop there and pretend it just ends with Arrya, Tyrion, and Varys sailing away forever. What a great show.
Don't stop the series is great despite the ending.
@@chucksmalley3987 there were some cool scenes from the later seasons like when the hound hacked those raiders to death or when Cersi nuked King's Landing but that last season just pissed me off
perfect username
season 6 has a better ending....dany sailing for westeros!
I stopped at the end of season 6. Season 5 ending with Cersi killing half the city is a good dropoff point as well.
Davos telling a group of warrior-eunuchs to settle down and start families is literally the dumbest thing I have experienced on TV.
Well, that was really a perfect example of D&D writing.
Not really, they reproduce by mitosis which was established after the battle of Winterfell, just like the Dothraki who can also breed the normal way.
@@MoffatLee Since all of them are men what way was that exactly? :D
Their descendants would just be more copies of the current Unsullied. Those fuckers reproduce themselves faster than cancer
@@Lukkuriddari i think its cloning. Dark magic witches.
The real tragedy of Jaime and Cersei is that if they stood a little to the right they would have been fine.
Wrong. They tried to dig their way out of several thousand tonnes of stone bricks, the tragedy is when they almost reached the top, they ran out of strength and died.
@@colonelburton8451 Indeed. They avoided all that blunt force crushing trauma and died of suffocation.
I love how the previous episode, the dungeon collapsed entirely. Every wall, archway and brick in the place fell like dominos. Next episode, like 10 bricks in an empty room.
I wondered why they didn’t just take shelter in balerions skull
*whisper voice* lil bits
Little Finger: Chaos is a ladder.
Bran: Wrong; it's a wheelchair accessible ramp.
nah it actually makes sense that chaos is a ladder, Bran can't cause chaos because he can't climb the ladder so if he's a king:
Adam Collins Wealie boi became king cause who is going to be king except the Psychic Computer brain. Who has pulled a Doctor Strange and looked at all possible outcomes and went with the one he became king. Cause a person who has seen all of human history can’t be anything else.
Beautiful comment
the IRON RAMP
Lmao!
The ending to this show was so bad i forgot it even existed. Literally everyone i knew was always talking about this show... and then the last season happened, and everyone pretended the show never existed. They managed to remove it from everyones mind, which is an insane accomplishment when the show used to be good
It even killed the desire of rewatching it again, and/or recommending it to others.
It was never good to begin with. Five different times I gave this shitshow a chance, as people just wouldn't shut up about this crap. What sort of brain damage has one to have to be able to enjoy this kind of neandering, unimaginative, debaucherous and frivolous dribble? Massive vaste of decent actors and obviously talented costumers. Haven't people read, seen or heard about good stories? Getting a library card should be free in most countries.
Things that doesn't matter:
-John's lineage
-Jaime's arc
-Arya's shapeshifting skills
-Bran warging abilities
-Prince that was promised
-Azor Ahai
-Lord of Light
-horse at the end of episode 5
-plot
Littlefingers plotting
Nightking
Faith of rhlor
The Dorne plotline
Cersei’s prophecy
That horse was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. It was funny in a similar fashion to when Walter found out skylar took all the money from the crawl space
Bucz The Entire White Walker storyline
Essos
Meereen
Bravos
Many faced god
Lord of light
Iron bank
Aryas nymeria dreams
Golden company
Weapon names and significance
Drogon flew away to find better writers
@Rwaggy Rwuper Rwinstincts If GRRM ever gets off his duff and finishes his novels then Drogon and Dany should be in good hands.
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Or punish Beinoff and Weiss for killing off his mother.
@@snappycenter7863 Pity they were not on the Iron Throne when Drogon torched it.
They're hiding in Valyria
This is just a damn shame......such a wonderful story reduced to nothing more than an expensive daytime soap opera. Terribly sad
This is exactly what I said to my wife. It was like watching EastEnders set in westeros. They even cut an argument half way through, pure soap classic. FFS!
10 years later, people still talks about Harry Potter. 20 years later, people still talks about LOTR. 4 years later, no one talks about Game of Thrones. Thats how much they fucked up at the end.
In the same way, the sequel trilogy is being forgotten.
The star wars sequels are a pile of hot human excrement.
The end of Game of Thrones was pretty bad but the beginning was amazing.
It's a good thing House of the dragon is a good show
@@NoNoSquare For now, at least.
They do talk about it
true but only because george r.r martin never finished his own series
Bran : "I can never be lord of anything."
Tyrion : "What about being the King?"
Bran : "Where do I sign?"
He played you apparently 😂
He knew he'd be offered becoming King. He's just sitting pretty.
And let's imagine what happens when Bran gets old and dies with no heir. Does he just appoint who he want to succeed him?
He lied that he don't want to be lord of anything, that is a good reason to not let him be the king xD, yet fake Tyrion logic
@@kene301187 So basically he steals my plan for winning battle royals of just chill until every is dead or out of ammo and hitpoints, then I just swoop in for the win when no one is expecting it.
"Dany had 15000 unsullied left, after she started with 8000 and 35000 died" -Anon
It's the new "woke math";feelings
not facts.😂😂😂
The earlier episodes spoke of debts to the iron bank. Whose representative looked like he could murder you with a quill tipped pen. There was talk of needing time to rebuild armies and resources. Talk of payments and logistics. Where the fuck did all of that go?
Unlimited Refill on soft drinks and Dothraki Horsemen on a Monday.
Yeah funny how that works eh?
Maybe they grow on trees or are tubers like potatoes and just happened to be ripe before the battle 🤣
And maybe Adolf Targaryen still can’t count higher than 20, and Dan & Dave think the audience can’t count either so they just throw forces around without a thought
Really, how dumb do D&D think we all are? Did they really think no one would notice??
@@robhay3438 free bottles of water and $tarbucks coffee? ☕
Jon Snow's entire dialogue in season 8:
-She is my queen
-She is my queen
-She is my queen
-She is my queen
-She is YOUR queen
-She is my queen
-You are my queen
That's "MUH" queen to the plebs 😁
Don't forget "I don't want it."
You will always be muh queen *mercy stabby*
@@originalsun5206 Always = next 2 seconds
Muh kween! Duh!
What maddens me is that the story was always grounded in political truths: a ruler cannot be strong if succession is not assured, which is why Dany was targeted by assassins and Joffrey's illegitimacy mattered. Suddenly a Targaeryan with a legitimate claim on the throne can be banished on a promise not to come back and contest things and a king can be appointed who can never produce a dynasty - guaranteeing the civil war will start again when Bran dies. Nice one 👍
Yep...
Dude, same and well said. It's pointless and stupid to have a Stark on one throne and a Stark on the other. The point? Especially when one can't breed wtf... The best way to fix that would be to have the actual classic hero (Jon Snow) with the legitimate claim to the throne defeat the Night King, saving all mankind, and having the stealth assassin (Arya Stark) or the trusted hand (Tyrion) take out the mad queen in one of their clever fashions. This would leave Jon open to taking the reigns alongside his cousin Sansa, uniting the entire continent of wildings, northerners, and southern Targaryen loyalists. If the eunuch army got their panties in a twist, then Melisandre could have used Jon's kings blood to awaken one of the stone dragons on Dragonstone, easily wiping out the foreign threat. Uniting the Stark and Targaryen houses is what will bring stability and peace to the entire realm. Literally everyone but the "writers" knew this, but I guess subverting expectations gave them a bigger boner than writing a cohesive and satisfying story that dozens of people dedicated over a decade of their lives to create.
I’ve been reading up a lot on the Wars of the Roses… which GoT is kinda based on (dynastic wars due to crisis in succession). Problem for a TV show is its theme doesn’t conclude… the wheel never breaks! And the writers had no way of imagining a way out of that conundrum. Same with George M. should Dany rule? Why? Should jon? Why? The only conclusion to war is legacy. Which is why Return of the King ending was so boring.
@@theManishMuse 100% legacy. It made no sense for 2 Starks to rule the north and south, and the south to have an impotent king that couldn't produce heirs. That leads to warfare and why a Queen bearing sons was always so important. Daughters weren't ideal, but they could reign if all else failed and preserve peace. Jon and Dany would have been able to unite both the north and south with their bloodlines, but Jon and Sansa/Arya would have achieved the same result if Dany was destined to die. So many viable and interesting options but they went with Bran the Boring... -.-
@@intpleb4206 it doesn't even have to be clever. Jon is the male heir. He technically killed Dany who was a usurper since the rightful heir Jon was still alive. He broke no laws by killing her and should've immediately been crowned king.
Crazy how the end of this series was so goddamn bad that it retroactively removed all of its influence from the cultural conversation
I'm starting to think that Tiger King had more cultural relevance than Game Of Thrones
Seriously, the only times I ever hear Game of Thrones mentioned anymore, it's always just referencing how bad the last season was.
Quite the accomplishment by D&D
And it gonna cost HBO BILLIONS meanwhile they could of just fired dumb and dumber after season 5 and made 7 more seasons and made more BILLIONS, I swear people are not thinking.
Yea 'cause it went all Nazi.
The real debate is, which multi-season major plot point amounted to less?
a) Bran being the three eyed raven
b) Jon being Aegon Targaryan
The night king ?
Bran being the Three Eyes Targaryen
I would also add (though, not to the same degree):
c) Arya being a faceless assassin.
And who th fook is azor ahai?
C) The fact that 10 minutes into the series' pilot established the white walkers as a credible and ominous threat not to be tied up in a single episode by a character that had no emotional attachment to the arc.
Tragic...I've heard no talk of GOT since it ended. Nobody talking of how they miss it, or wishing they'd bring it back. Before the eighth season, i often spoke of buying the complete series once it ended to rewatch over and over. Now i no longer want to as the last season destroyed the series. Knowing how stupid and lame it all ended killed all the passion to reinvest my time in a worthless cause. R.I.P GOT.
I feel the same way. I used to live for GOT. The ringtone on my cell is even the GOT theme. But once the series ended, I just didn't give a shit about it anymore.
I feel the same. It wasnt just bad, it forgot about arya's shapshifting or brans ability to see everything therfore making the build up pointless.
That's truly the greatest tragedy of all. They didn't just kill the show. They retroactively ereased everything good about it from existence.
They made sure that what arguably used to be, and should have been the greatest TV show of all time will be remembered as nothing more than a bitter disappointment, and in a few years, even that will have been forgotten. It will become nothing more than another entry in the long list of dead franchises that we all wasted our time on.
Thinking about this SHOULD make me furious, but the sad thing is that I don't even care enough anymore to laugh about it. I'm just done.
Totally agree, I lived for every new season, watched every episode multiple times waiting for the following week, watched other people’s reaction vids to kill time, bought every blue ray and now it all seems so stupid after the last two seasons totally killed the years I invested.
My friends' honest words about GoT: "We need to find another show to watch."
That's how much it meant to them, and they'd been trying to convince me to watch it for years.
4 years later, and I'm still pissed off for the choices they made. Years of waiting, excitement, expectations, all flushed down the toilet in two seasons. Amazing.
Same
And STILL no WoW
I'll never forget my shock after season 8 episode 3. I had hope they would land the ending but I was so so wrong.
I am no longer piseed off. For a long time, I was, because I wanted someone who has reach and audience to say it as it is, but all the youtubers and other media criticising the last season of GoT were trying to be polite and academic.
They just couldn't or wouldn't say it as it is, that it is a pure shit. But a year or os after the season wrapped up, I found critical drinker, and he said it as it is. His reviews finally helped me to get over the shitfest that was the season 8 of GoT. And I am forever thankful to him for that.
What pissed me the most was the decision to exile John, a person who had always worked for the good. Throughout the series, everything he did was to protect everyone. He did nothing for his own good and sacrificed his life to save everyone and betrayed his queen in the end, because it was the right thing to do, despite all of this, even though he had the legitimate right to rule, love
Of people and leadership skills, he ends up being banished to nowhere, even if he doesn't become king, at least king in the north, or lord commander, or lord of a somewhere , he is the character who is supposed to get a good ending that suits his efforts and his character development throughout the story.Even in an imaginary world we cannot see a good person rewarded for his efforts!! The scene when he was riding beyond the wall with the free folks was a heart broking ,he doesn't belong to the wild
I guess the Wildlings all forgot that they had been granted lands to the south of the wall and that they had been fighting for generations to get south of the wall specifically to acquire those lands so they didn't have to keep scraping a miserable living from the frozen rocks of a barren tundra. I guess they all came down with that amnesia bug that seems to have been going around in season 8.
Damn lol I completely forgot about that story arc. The main reason they joined the fight was to escape the North. Only to go right back
You're right I was thinking the same thing when I saw the wildlings traveling back from where they fought so hard to leave from.
It's like you expect the people that write four out of six of the last episodes to give a fuck about it? What's wrong with you? Don't you know who you're dealing with?
Yep. The Wildlings were the Mongols. The Wall in GoT is the Great Wall, ostensibly to keep out Mongol warriors, but actually to keep out Mongol trade and keep Mongols out of China. What was a deeply meaningful story resonant with actual human history and complexity becomes a stupid Hollywood Western trope. "Go North young man!" Just stupid.
The Wildlings are the Picts (or Scots). That is Hadrian's Wall not the Great Wall of China (pretty sure GRR said something along those lines at one point). Hadrian's Wall was the wall at the end of the world. The Dothraki are sort of the Mongols, though Mongol cavalry were much heavier armoured and had more archers.
After watching everyone get massacred and burnt to a crisp
Arya: "I know a killer when I see one"
Thanks Sherlock
Arya walks into the crime scene with dead bodies strewn everywhere. “I KnOw A kIlLeR wHEn aH sEe wUn” Gee ya think so Arya?
HAHAHA! Yeahhh that one one of the +/- 10 facepalm moments in the finale.
Apparently I missed Davos telling the Unsullied to settle down and START FAMILIES, but there still were plenty more.
The writing of D&D. These twats got a Star Wars trilogy based on the writing of GRRM. Disney CEO Bob Iger said he hasn't been paying attention to GoT the last few seasons lol. I mean WTF? Do resumes mean anything anymore? Lets hire some guys to handle one of the most popular stories of all time so lets not look into their previous work or how well it was received. Unbelievable.
@@eternalreign2313 You'd think after Rian (I'm gonna fuck up star wars for everyone) Johnson they'd take more care. This really worries me after seeing GoT season 8.
And it's still not in the top ten dumbest moments of the season. Maybe not even top 50. Did children write this season seriously?
As any Dungeon Master will tell you; the hardest thing to do is to write a character who is more intelligent than you are.
My favorite line! Thanks...I needed that.
@ several people wrote his character. Thus he has intelligence equal to that of many people added together. Truly a genius.
My Dad accused me of being a homosexual.
Playing as a character who's more intelligent that you are is also pretty hard. I mean, sure, you can just go "Intelligence check!" at every occasion, but that sounds a bit cheap.
#comicsgate
What honestly boiled my skin was the fact that Jon is the true heir to the throne and NO ONE THOUGHT TO MENTION THIS AT THE END?! Then he’s banished to the Watch but just leaves? Then Bran is just supposed to bow to an unsullied prick who is the commander to a dead queen (meaning he literally has no say or purpose anymore) What the serious flying fuck
I know. I'll never forgive D&D for not making Jon king in the end. Literally his whole character arc just gets completely destroyed.
@@davidpanepento2998 I would have been ok with Jon not becoming king at the end if it made sense. Jon made it clear that he didn’t want to rule, so why not have him pass the crown off to someone he deems fit? Or maybe he accepts the crown to finish what Dany had originally started? I’ve listened to many other people give ideas on how the show should have ended that are light years beyond than what D&D pooped out.
@@MykaTheDevil Yes, Jon technically didn't have to become king, but it makes the most sense since he's the last true hair of the Targaryen line.
@@MykaTheDevil To be honest anybody other than Bran would've made sense.
He has plot armor, what should've actually happened is jon getting killed either by Dany's dragon, the unsullied or the dothraki
I had no emotional attachment / reaction to what happened in this episode.....
I stopped watching after episode 3. I feel nothing but anger and disappointment now..
dew ok yeah lol was watching n my girlfriend freaked out n I was like, cmon you knew it was coming especially when dani died
I tried, i really tried hard
I've realized that the only feeling this and the previous few episodes managed to induce in me was cringe.
I gave up watching about 1/2 way through and my husband summarized it for me afterwards.
ETA: Just for reference, I've been loyally watching since S1E1 aired, but God...
Notice how Arya, Sansa and Bran were all in King’s Landing at the same time? Apparently ‘there must always be a Stark in Winterfell’ is no longer a thing either
Ehh, who cares. We have focking Bran do deal with everything. Cuz he is literally god. He just didnt choose to say anyhting. YUR MAH QUEEN
@@CODA96 He probably warged into some poor person's body and used him as a remote controlled puppet in Winterfell while he was half paying attention to what was being said in front of him.
That could explain the fact that he first said that he didn't want the throne and then said that this was what he had been working towards to all this time.
They kinda forgot
happened in season two aswell so what
@@MarcelNL
Exactly Marcel. Bran also warged into Ned Stark and let him be killed on purpose. He also warged into Walder Frey and executed his brother and mother.
He also warged into Dany AND her Dragon at the same time: Dany never wanted to be Queen of Ashes, but Bran made her do it!
And at the end, Bran warged into Jon and he killed Dany, it was just supposed to look like bad storywriting.
Proof me wrong, i can explain ANYTHING with ''Bran did it''.
Breaker of legs, defender of the ramps, long may he roll.
Joshua Perry 😂😂😂
They see me rollin, they hatin
Chaos is a ramp
The Chair That Was Promised.
With no future heirs.
"Danny won't rest until they've liberated the entire world from the cruelty of being alive"
Honestly what the hell was her goal here
just turned her in to a world domination cartoon villain .she came to Westeros to break wheel meaning stop the power struggle cycling over and over again then they made her want everyone to kneel and shit like wtf she never even asked slave masters to kneel .
They were trying to play the angle of her being a Targaryen and inheriting the "mad gene". It's just that nothing really indicated at her being THIS mad. She was cruel towards the end, sure, but not this batshit insane where she suddenly decides to torch innocent people and the city she wants to conquer and rule. What was she going to do with the throne and the city afterwards? It's been razed to the ground. It makes zero sense.
@@sleepysleeper3485Generally "mad" people don't make sense. It's kinda implied.
@@sleepysleeper3485 If she’s gone “mad” she doesn’t have to make sense, her burning down Kings Landing made as much sense to her as it did to her father. It was also foreshadowed all the way back in season 2 that she was going to destroy Kings Landing in the house of the undying, you literally see the Throne room destroyed. So her going mad and burning them all was always going to happen it’s just that the writers didn’t allow proper build up to it
@@josephstalin2606 give me a break. It was horrible writing. Dany went “mad” and killed people for absolutely no reason. If she didn’t value human life at all, why did she care so much about freeing the slaves? Her entire story makes no sense. D&D are the worst writers in human history.
Daenerys burning down Kings Landing is extremely symbolic. Daenerys symbolizes D&D, and Kings Landing symbolizes the show. And the innocent people of Kings Landing are the fans.
Good job D&D. Dumpster fire doesn't even begin to describe this. D&D didn't even try with season 8. Didn't even try.
Drogon burning the iron throne symbolises the fans burning D&D.
Dont forget, they also took an extra year, to not even try.
The guy killing main characters as a living could find better than destroying the throne?
@@Fabi_87 Look, I understand the appeal of looking to the books for a satisfying end to an amazing saga, but let's get real here. Martin is going to die of a massive heart attack before he finishes the next book, let alone two of them. I mean, he's always written slowly but this absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure if he's simply lost his passion or if he is just incapable of writing a good ending to a book series that is visibly struggling under it's own weight. Either way, he's well into his seventies and weighs as much as a Mini Cooper so I can't imagine a reality where he lives long enough to complete his work. Not when he's currently working at a pace of roughly a decade per book.
@@bredincaptivity4692 They'll hire someone to finish them for him, if he leaves enough notes/instructions on what he was going to do.
They did it with Branden Sanderson for The Wheel of Time. They might do it again.
George RR Martin carried this show. As soon as he was out it went steeply downhill. Weiss and Benioff were incapable from the beginning. They were just lucky they had Martin
I whole-heartedly agree.
I mean the dude had a history writing books and for TV shows. So he atleast had a good idea of its ins/outs/pitfalls. That being said he should have never sold the rights until he was on his last book. He was naive to think they wouldn't catch up to his writing and blinded by the mountain of cash HBO dumped on his doorstep.
@@pokeman5000 Its to bad we don't get to see the final vision of his story played out on the screen. Maybe he thought he'd pull off a JK Rowling and finish the series while the books were being adapted.
I am of the Opinion that The Reason the Last 2 Seasons and the ending being Trash, we’re because the Last 2 books aren’t finished and there was no source Material to pull from.
I hate to Shit on the man, but you have had 10 years to finish that God damn book let alone his series so He is just as responsible for this show going down hill. I am also skeptical where or not the ending to the books will be worth a damn.
@@SkullKnightmare775 yeah, he made a fantastic and complex story but looks like finishing it is too much of a challenge even for him
The problem with writing smart characters is that you yourself have to be smart.
Well… there goes my writing career
At least you have the advantage of time to think about what the character would just immediately do.
it's not that hard. just imagine how a character would react in real life situations. You need to read some elementary things about logic and common sense and you are set.
Just like Christopher Nolan who needs to use science in every of his movies and makes everyone confused of what the fuck is going on.
"What would an evil mastermind who relies entirely on depection do when the lord looks him square in the face and quotes his own evil motto at him, making it obvious that the jig is up?"
"Uuhmm... stick around and keep trying?"
The worst part was the Danae and Cersi showdown. It was built up over 7 seasons and we were expecting some massive battle between the two. And then Cersi is...buried by rubble. What an anticlimax.
Seriously. Pisses me off
And in Season 8, they never have a conversation and only staring at each other. Even Sansa out of people have a conversation with her and even own Daenerys by asking her "What about The North?" When she's finally conquer Westeros. The only time they talked was on the end of Season 7 in Dragonpit andddd that's it!
"An anticlimax" is how I would describe everything in the whole season
I watched Mauler's season 8 videos recently and he brought up a question I hadn't thought of - what exactly made Dany stop attacking? The troops/city had already surrendered, Cersei was killed by coincidence with no way of Dany knowing about it, was it just an actual kill count she was after?
I've had breakups that hurt less than this shows final season
@breathe3146 but the subversion of expectations didn't fit the characters. Cersi is a cold blooded sociopath who is not afraid of death. So to show her dying in fear and tear s - even with Jamie at her side - goes against the character we know. Danae by contrast is supposed to be her opposite. Yes OK she has streaks of her fathers nature in her. But even when she invades westeros in season 7, we see her compassion as she first touches the ground. To go from that to a complete dictator seems totally out of character
A year later and I cannot even look at the excellent earlier seasons fondly. The season ruined the show for me.
I don´t remember Dany´s corps being taken by the dragon. I probably didn´t watch the whole episode, just skiped it
@@xshadionytpx7891 Don't get me started how Anakin and Luke's story were pissed on by Disney. I watched Forces Awakens and all my friends gave me shit because I thought it was weak lol. It makes me mad because there are better stories in the expanded universe and video games then that shit show.
Leon Robinson new or not its still wrong and disgusting
Mission accomplished then.
For real.
Watching it again, is like eating the most amazing of meals, knowing you're going to shit your life out when you're done
Epic fail. Historically will go down as the worst finale ever
Naw, it'll be fine
*Neil Druckman, Director of The Last of Us 2:* _"Oh, is that what you think?"_
The finale of Star Trek Enterprise was a huge slap in the face too.
UGH.
@@John-X you're an idiot.
Watchmojo literally had to make a top 10 list of worst tv show finales just so they can talk about how bad GOT finale is
What was the point of Arya's faceless powers if she didn't use them once this season? Why was Jon a Targaryen if it made no difference in the plot? Why did Drogon think a chair killed Dany?
@@kurdia100 That seems to be the sort of symbolism they wanted to convey, but er, when did dragons become capable of making such sophisticated philosophical distinctions? They have only ever proved themselves capable of understanding a single word. They are intelligent creatures, but the idea that Drogon somehow intuits that the desire for power (the Iron Throne) is more responsible for the death of his mother than the guy he just watched stab her to death, is, for want of a better word, fucktarded
@@kurdia100 that's what I thought at that moment. Drogon can't kill John because he knows he is a targaryen. But we will never know.
Jon being a Targaryen really just helped Bran.
There's a dagger in her chest. The chair is pointy.
Dragon logic.
There, I figured it out.
@@kurdia100 Him being a Targaryen is not a very good explanation as to why the dragon didn't kill him. Targaryans fought Targaryans before in succession wars. An example is a civil war known as "the dance of the dragons" between Rhaenyra and her brother Aegon II. It all ended with Rhaenyra being captured and Aegon feeding her to his dragon while forcing her son to watch. I guess you could argue that Drogon "knows" Jon. But he hasn't really known him for that long so it's a pretty lame excuse to me. It seemed like the writers just wanted to have that cool scene because of SiiiMboLisM so they put it in there without thinking too much about it.
It was such a bland final, anti-climactic. Sean Bean must've been relieved to have his character killed in the 1st season.
He tried to take the ring from frodo. Eff him.
@@adamsteele6148 Different movie (franchise). Different character 🙄.
So glad Charles Dance got out of the series before it goes really bad
Sean Bean died? I didn't see that coming!
@@kitty6720 ...it's a joke. Obviously. I'm afraid you're dim.
From the moment this episode ended, I could only think of one thing, your review.
Thank you for that.
The best part of this finale by far.
Yes, me too, although I'm also looking forward to Alt Shift X's review later, if he bothers. I'm not sure I would. What a 'FUCK YOU' this series turned out to be.
Agreed!
Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?
The man who willingly joined the Nights Watch, went beyond the Wall, joined wildlings, climbed that fucking wall on his way back, escaped the wildlings attack, commanded the Castle Black against the wildlings attack, befriended Tormund - the enemy, went to negotiate to hostile Hardome territory, killed a Walker, survived the massacre, got killed, got revived, won the bloody North with a bunch of wildlings, avenged the Red Wedding, became a king, united North, had the balls to go to Dragonstone, had the balls to go to Beyond the Wall again, had the balls to tell Cersei "no knee for you, I already serve Daenerys" in Kings Landing and last but not least, had his own dragon
But Bran fell from tower and survived so now he knows useless stuff about history and things, cuz thats more interesting I guess...
''But Bran fell from tower and survived so now he knows useless stuff about history and things, cuz thats more interesting I guess...''
Yes, in fact it IS more interesting than yet another man-hunk/Aragorn-clone taking the throne based on how well he can swing a sword.
You sound like Joffrey when he boasted he was gonna hack Tyrion's history book to shreds. You totally don't get the point of the show. People who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
BTW, which country are you from? Did the president of your country wrestle a bear, journey to the South Pole shirtless or something? Is THAT the basis of choosing a good ruler?
@@SerbAtheist I guess letting corruption rot your government and fuck your people in the ass on a daily basis makes one much better candidate for a president than doing a manly deed.
@@SerbAtheist Jon would have been a far better ruler then Brian the Broken for many reasons not just the fact he could swing a sword
@@SerbAtheist And what history was repeated here in the story?... Nothing. Bran was useless. And boring.
@@danielchettiar5670 Well for a start Dany repeated her brothers mistakes AND Stannis's mistakes AND her fathers mistakes.
Break the wheel, two more shall take it's place
~ King Bran
Hahah, this made me laugh out loud 😂 👍
It took me a minute, but I finally got it..
His chair actually has 3 wheels, so even more bang for your buck.
Hail hydra
@Evil Doughboy Rian Johnson would be so proud. They did not simply Subvert Expectations, but they Subverted the entire story
It was actually impressive what the writers actually did. They created the most amazing TV show to exist, they may not even be able to make one that is better.
And then they destroyed it in an also insanely amazing way that they destroyed its legacy and memory with it. There are very few shows or films that have ever self-destructed so amazingly well.
They destroyed too well, I think. My theory is that there was some kind of miff between D&D and George Martin.
They did not create anything they bought someone else's intellectual property and turned it into a TV show. It's like me making a mod for Skyrim to turn into a multiplayer game and then saying I created the best video game in existence.
@@MrApostolis78 let's just say that season 6 onwards is there own abomination
Best show ever? Yikes. I take it you haven’t seen Breaking Bad... 5 seasons with a fantastic final season and a perfect final episode.
@@acpmc76that’s possible. He dipped off of writing for the show after they refused to include Lady Stoneheart
"So Jon returns to Castle Black and reunites with Ghost so Mauler can stop complaining about it."
Brilliant!
I don't get it :(
@@henriccarlsson9052 MauLer is another YT critic, and he was less than happy about Jon ditching Ghost. Look up "Game of Thrones: S08E04: An Unbridled Rage"
@@davelewthwaite
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He does talk about Ghost a lot, highly recommended.
I mean, Mauler was very angry about it.
Loved it
The one positive of Season 8.
I found The Critical Drinker on RUclips.
Everything I wished for after season 1 came tr000
Silver linings!
@TooLateToTheStory yeah, but the outfit will still cost you your left leg.
The soundtrack was still good. That was the one upside for me.
If you like critical drinker you must like cinema sins also?
@@jeannettecampbell1402 that's like saying if you like RotJ you must like TLJ...
"I know a killer when I see one" -Arya Stark the Genius, just after almost being viciously killed by Daenerys for an entire episode, along with hundreds of thousands of innocent people
What an amazingly wise observation! What meaningful input!
Got to love the hypocrisy and irony. "Why are you here Arya? To kill Cersie but your girlfriend killed her first. She is a killer" And what the heck are you? Was Arya going to tickle Cersie to death?
@@aileenpi73
that would have been better to watch :-)
I WANTED to like Arya but the interviews with that egotistical Maise were such a turn-off. She acted as if she were some type of Wonder Woman because SHE was selected to make "the kill". Arya was just another "tool" in an empty and meaningless toolbox.
Anna Wisdomsdottir yes, she & sophie are so annoying
@@aileenpi73 Even if she tickled Cersei to death she'd still be killing her.
No, instead she showed up, changed her mind after the Hound gives her a logical directive which he admits is contrary to his illogical one, and, glancing down at the map room floor, noticed hey, even this map is stopping West of Westeros, what's up with that? Got a new purpose now, gotta go, Sandor, thank you! She kind of forgot about who she was intermittently (after the hit on the head that concussed her during the exit from King's Landing and made her hallucinate that white horse).
Remember, "A Dance with Dragons" was published in 2011. We are now 12 years later and "The Winds of Winter" is still in the works, with the final book "A Dream of Spring" clearly not coming out this century.
Worst case scenario is George R.R Martin is gonna die before even finishing the last 2 books and going on dementia.
@@margarethmichelina5146well they can also ruin it.
I doubt Winds or Dream will every be released, sadly.
There is a couple pronounced writers familiar with grand story telling itching to finish the books. If Martin lets them...
"Why are you wasting time telling us shite we already know." That's how I felt for about 45min of the episode.
Sort of like watching this review lol
@DrTheKay Yeah i got banned from the GoT reddit years ago for telling them how bad s5 sucked. Wonder how they feel now.
That first bit with Tyrion searching in the rubble - there's no conflict, nothing to provide drama. We're just watching him act. Then later when we get that extreme closeup of his face - it just seemed to never end. I was checking my watch, half unsure if the video was just paused.
@@firebush1343 I actually quit watching in season 5, but came back and finished for the release of season 8. So personally my expectations were not high, but even so seasons 7 and 8 were particularly sub-par.
@@WalterLiddy Lol, we had actually paused the video at that point (toilet break or some other thing more interesting than the show) and when we sat down again, after some time my wife said, impatiently, "play it then"; "it IS playing I said" as the imp slowly moved an eye. "Oh", she said...
Daenerys: "I'm gonna break the Wheel"
Bran: Becomes King and adds two more.
Three. His is a 3 wheeler.
nipi tiri Yes. That's why he's adding two to the one that exists.
Ridin’ spinners
"Dey see me rollen, dey haten..."
So Jon being a Targaryian that was built up for ages actually means NOTHING. Bran being the 3 eyed raven actual meant NOTHING. So much wasted. I just pray the books if they ever get written actually makes this make sense.
digwillhachi who car S about the books? GRRM let the whole series get out of control....
Jon should have been King and Bran should have been his Hand/advisor
i just came here after 3 yrs to say bran is the most evil person in the show he saw the future and let all those ppl die so he can become king 🤮 also jon is still a bastard .raegar was married to elia martell .thats why he secretly married Lilyanna just to fool her
I can never forgive how they turned Tyrion, one of the most interesting, clever and witty characters into a whatever he was by the end of GoT. Its the only purpose he was there was because he was a fan favorite and needed to be on the screen for that purpose only. He was basically turned into an empty uniform that said whatever was needed for whatever shitty plot point they were trying to do in a specific episode
At season three:
Friend: Do you watch GoT? It's amazing.
Me: Nah, I'm not into modern story telling.
Friend: This is different, it's so good, you'll like it.
At season seven:
*Crickets*
After ending:
Me: So should I watch GoT?
Friend: *Grumbles*
They kept around just to deliver the who has a better story than bran line. They thought the Tyrion fan base would just accept that line cuz he delivered it, I think they knew if he didn't deliver it literally NO ONE would have bought. I mean not many did buy it....
@@Ackalan seasons 1-4 were good, then they ran out of the book material and it all went to shit, not to mention they were left unsupervised by GRRM
Also BTW if you're 'not into modern storytelling' what are you even doing on the channel that's all about it? You should probably be on the channel about Shakespearean plays or something
Tyrion sucked in the last season. Stupid actions, idiotic lines...i didn't love her as successfully. Wtf does that mean? Who wrote this sh!t?
He was my favorite character. Absolutely pissed all over his character by the end. He became predictable and in many ways unpredictable for all the wrong reasons. His cleverness that kept him alive was completely destroyed as his decision making was terrible. I'm surprised he wasn't killed off as every choice he made was wrong.
Brienne closing the book before the ink was dry was a metaphor for the entire season
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Think that one up yourself clever twat.
Afshin The Great yeah, u stole that.
This was my joke under another video! I DEMAND JUSTICE!
So pathetic stealing someone else's comment. Shame
All these people freaking out like every joke on the internet isn't stolen and reused a million times. I'll do you guys one better. I made this joke while watching the episode when it first aired. Get on my level.
The single most impressive thing about this episode was that it was so bad that the world went into lockdown just under a year after it aired with little more to do than find something to fill the days, and nobody was even talking about the other 7 seasons.
I don’t know a single person that has gone back and rewatched the run of GOT during lockdown. Not. A. Single. One.
@@ChrisCrossAplsauce
To be fair, even if you tried, your screen would be as black as the empty void left by the terrible writing
My friend rewatched Game of Thrones S1-7 during quarantine but avoided S8
S8 Blu Ray could be on sale for $1 at Best Buy and I still wouldn't Buy it 🤣
@@aaronseidl5941 i wouldn't get it if it were free
"liberated the entire world from the cruelty of being alive."
“We destroyed the hamlet in order to save it.”
Me: hey Thanos, someone took your idea!
@@54markl From communism?
Wish someone would do that to me.
😂👍I loved it too
The story of the rise and fall of GoT is like a Greek tragedy. It was at one point the most fucking incredible show to have existed, that had the biggest fanbase in the world who were obsessed with endless theories about how it would end. Wherever you went, GoT would come up in conversation as casually as football. It was a phenomenon, lightning in a bottle. It was arguably the biggest pop culture touchstone of the 2010`s.
And then season 8 happened.
In just a handful of episodes they managed to completely crumble the towering monolith they had built. GoT was now a joke, and will forever be remembered as thus. It was so bad it made us question if the show was ever really good from the get go. And if was all because of the staggering hubris of the show's creators and the laziness of the original author.
Even if it had stuck the landing in a bumpy way, the show still would have been remembered as an amazing achievement. But they didn't so much land, as more like crash to earth and torch the entire runway.
Thus it will remain as a cautionary tale to all those who want to know how not to finish a series.
The joke's on us. We have been trolled by George R.R. Martin and he even told us so.
Season 7 was also bad. If i rewach GoT, I'll stop at season 6
This isnt Georges fault, it is D&D's fault. They ran out of source material and just ripped this show apart
The show will still be legendary regardless
@@markozerdin9784season 7 wasn’t that bad
Tyrion was actually crying over how bad the writing had gotten.
Dinkledge was able to summon the tears just thinking about what this scene was doing to his legacy.
"I used to be the smartest one!"
method acting
It’s pretty obvious the caste hates the ending
That was probably the camera rolling between takes, and they got Dinklage crying over how badly they butchered his character and show.
They Rian Johnsoned the white walkers. What was supposed to unite the kingdoms, just to end up back where they were from the start, divided. What an incredible story arc.
as in 'not credible'
Dude, it’s not just the white walkers. A lot of the story arcs either go nowhere, or end up back where they started. Like Jon, for instance. Despite everything he’s gone through, despite everything he’s accomplished, he just ends up banished to the Wall again like the bastard he was in season 1. Great...🙄
Or Jamie’s redemption taking an about-face and ending up right back where he started. Guess that character arc is more of a circle now.
Who the heck is ryan johnson lol
Well, when you put it that way..... 2001 seems so long ago now.
yeah it arc'd right into the ground!
What makes me most mad is that nobody talked about Jon being the heir even though Varys was writing all those letters
gendry is tecnically legitime joffrey brother and robert son and were on the council....
He was writing his favourite porno
Because if they mention Jon then all the other claims don't much make sense. So if they just don't mention it, maybe they'll forget that Jon is really the only King that makes sense.
@Frank Castle The entire premise of Jon being the actual king was that he was the BETTER king. The people loved him and he cared for the people.
Daenyris did not. That didnt stop D&D from throwing everything outta the fucking window for *but mah wheelchair person can be king too xdddd*
mybuttons11 I always raged at the fact that jon didn’t marry Daenerys because that would have solved all their relationship problems, the question of who’s the true Heir and United the North again with the south.
(And atleast in Medieval Europe you could marry your Aunt, and even if it is considered incest in Westeros, fuck that, incest is tradition in the house of Targaryen)
Having not read the books I could still tell when they ran out of the author's source material. It was so obvious. It just took a turn and you knew that something was missing and it was not good. Unbelieveable that they managed to ruin it so completely.
The sad thing is that they didn’t run out of source material. They stopped adapting it after season 4. Book 4 and five never got to screen and they are both thick fuckers with plenty of stuff going on. With only these two they could have made another two or even three seasons giving the author the time to finish his damned book, and if he still hasn’t then just use the shit ton of sample chapters he released for yet another season. But they were like « nah we’re smarter than him we’ll figure it out »
I haven't seen the show but I heard they started departing significantly well before that. Although they probably still got worse when they didn't even have that to prop them up.
True. From season 7 it was just pointless anti climax battles and no main characters died. That’s when you know it was not written by George R.R. Martin
Ayra goes west,
Dragon goes east,
John goes north,
The show goes south.
opollo underrated comment 😏
Did you have fun stealing that comment?
indeed, must be T-shirts with that Legend anywhere
They should have hired you to write the last season's script.
That's better writing than the entire last season.
D&D kinda forgot that Jon came back to life for a purpose.
They would forgoth that they have fingers if they wherent using them to hold their credit cards.
They did jon dirty
Bruhhhhhh
Yeah instead he just gets sentenced to hangout with his friends up north. And if Greyworm and all of Dany's men are leaving westeros, why do the other kingdoms agree to punish Jon and Tyrion
@@spawncampe Better yet, why is Tyrion punished because he was the Queen’s hand, but the Queen’s literal ARMY responsible for single-handedly slaughtering countless of innocents after she went mad not given any type of punishment? Tyrion is imprisoned, but these guys are somehow still free to make demands?
I’m eternally grateful that Dave and Dan were fired from their Star Wars trilogy after this war crime
With SW at least they would have been consistent with the previous quality lately.
Imagine their star wars sequels were even worse... Imagine they somehow managed to not only be forgettable, but to make you unable to ever enjoy episode 1-6 and clone wars ever again.
@@rolfknappmann dude the Sequels already did that
Are you kidding me
The last Jedi destroyed all my love for those magical films
@@Ghost-ql3hl But you can still enjoy ep 1 ,2, clone wars, 3, 4, 5, 6
Because that story has a solid ending. GoT doesn't have that. They managed to F-up the ending so dramatically, you can't even rewatch season 1 to 6, because you know you're watching it for nothing
Even better, in House of The Dragon, those two dumbasses are not the director anymore and they got Martin as the screen writer again. Even Martin looks like competely giving up to write the last 2 books of ASOIAF and decided to write HOTD and Elden Ring instead.
I've never before wished a show I loved had been cancelled before it's final season.
I went in with expectations below zero and was still disappointed...
Perverted expectations.
Nloveru Freaking Wealie Boi
The Dothraki and Unsullied are the true undead in this show, no matter how many times you kill them, they just reanimate.
"I think that, after dying, they ve kinda forgotten to lay down"
-- D&D
@Cyricist001
they had their life counter nopped out :-)
Jon's dialogue in Season 8:
-You are Mah Queen
-She is Our Queen!
-I don't want it!
Sandor Clegane: Fuck the queen!
"I dun won't it"
I dun wan et
Jon’s dialogue in season 7
-we need allies
-I got us some allies
-what about the allies?
@@PurushNahiMahaPurush “I neva ave”
I haven’t heard anyone mention the second to last episode in which Dany INEXPLICABLY decides to flip a complete 180 and massacre thousands of innocent people. The final episode was irrelevant at that point because the credibility of the characters was already erased.
I binged this whole series in the past two weeks and I was honestly so confused as to why she did that?? Like seeing her character from season one to 8 change so abruptly was like wth???
they ruined her@@alexandraluckett2070
Bran trade up! "Im not lord of anything..." episodes later "why do you think i came all this way" whaaat?
He meant, "I'm not the lord of anything, I'm the KANG BITCH!"
Why be a lord when you can be a king! He knew... He knew...
I've seen many a bad ending to a good series but an ending that actually undoes all the good that came before in the series is quite a feat.
Dont watch dexter lol
@@dun0790 They're bringing "Dexter" back, can you believe it? For masochists, apparently.
@@philipwebb960 Jesus what next
Yeah I refuse to let others that love GOT watch it
So true! I'm so sad - they fucked got in multiple ways - 0 rewatchability
Greyworm to Tyrion: "you can't speak here" - let's him speak and pick the new king XD
Lets
Greyworm: I execute everyone that even dares to NOT bend the knee to my queen
Jon: I literally KILLED our Queen
Greyworm: Eh, you can go to the wall, i dont care.
Yeah...What the fuck is up with Grey Worm? They gave HIM the power to decide the fate of Jon Snow AS IF somehow he was a main character. Grey Worm did nothing but follow Dany's orders and contributed little to nothing to the story.
Anna Wisdomsdottir HE IS NOT EVEN FROM WESTEROS LMAO
What I had always wondered: how did they know that Dany is dead? Jon killed her and no one was there, Drogon took her body, so how did they know?
Jon likely confessed, like he did to killing Mance in a room full of wildlings. He's not one to lie or bs about anything
Dude probably blabbed his mouth the second he saw someone, for some reason Jon Snow doesn't understand the concept of keeping a secret or just shutting up about literally anything. It's the same reason he just had to tell Cersei he bent the knee to Daenerys when it would guarantee Cersei wouldn't help them. The writers just made him stupid because, well why not?
@@natb9919to be real, that's how all the Stark men were; to fuckin' honest. Talk too damn much. Revelling plans to your enemies and thinking sh!t sweet afterwards.
I love how in season 7 Daenerys specifically said that her father was an evil man and she knew what he did wasn't right, and now they try to spin it that she did all this because it's her idea of what 'right' is. So not only did she go crazy overnight, her entire personality and moral compass did a 180 overnight too.
I also love how Jon lost all agency this season. He got his destiny stolen by Arya and he got his choices stolen by Tyrion and Greyworm. Instead of coming to the decision on his own, and voluntarily going north.
caffineandshiny part of the problem was that they didn’t give themselves enough time to depict a believable slow decline into insanity / amorality/ despotism for D. The last 2 seasons have been like a spring finish which suggests they didn’t have the ability to develop and conclude the plot lines from the book..
I thought Stannis Baratheon was a perfect example of this..
The Prince that was Pointless
Maybe Daenerys was under the mind control of the Three-Eyed R'hllor a.k.a GRRM
@@roosterbooster6238 oh I agree. I'm just saying, their desperate reaching for a way to make it work (and be believable) falls flat on its face.
The most honorable man in the Realm was a complete tool in season 8. Then, because it's written, he throws all that honor away by killing his Queen, and disobeying the rules of the Night's Watch. Part of me is shocked he didn't start yelling at Drogon when Drogon was yelling at him.
When Arya said "I know a killer when I see one" I burst out laughing. Oh really? Is it not obvious? I guess maybe not for Jon, he's been so daft this season.
🤣😊🤣 i wonder what her first clue was
I know. Burning down an entire city wasn't an obvious enough clue. And Daenerys has been wrecking people with dragon fire for years now.
I rolled my eyes so hard on that line i almost got dizzy, fucking hell mate... you HAVE SEEN Daenerys before and never said anything, NOW that she burns the entire city you come up with the "I kNoW a KilLeR wHEn o SeE oNe" fuck off
S8 Jon was:
"she's my queen"
"i'm not a Stark"
"i don't want it" (iron throne)
Dany kinda forgot she liked children.
Tyrion kinda forgot he was smart.
Jaime kinda fogot he cared about the innocent.
Varys kinda forgot he was the scheming spider.
The ruins of kings landing kinda forgot they were reduced to rubble.
The dothraki kinda forgot they were wiped out.
Arya kinda forgot she was an assassin.
Grey worm kinda forgot Jon killed his queen.
Drogon kinda forgot Jon killed his mother.
The lords kinda forgot Jon saved Westeros.
Jaime kinda forgot he was stabbed multiple times.
Gilly kinda forgot she saw the dagger in the book.
Bran kinda forgot there was no night's watch anymore.
The wildlings kinda forgot to leave for the north when they said they would.
The lords kinda forgot Jon was the true heir to the throne.
Everyone kinda forgot the dothraki.
Everyone kinda forgot there was always supposed to be a Stark in Winterfell.
Everyone kinda forgot about the prophecies.
Some suggestions from the comments and more of my own:
The Iron Bank kinda forgot about their loan.
The Faceless Men kinda forgot they wanted Arya dead.
The Golden Company kinda forgot how to fight.
Bran kinda forgot he had no power in the south.
Bran kinda forgot he didn't want to rule.
Little Finger kinda forgot he was sly.
The woman in Winterfell Little Finger paid kinda forgot what she was being paid for.
Sansa kinda forgot Brynden Tully was a good guy.
The Iron Men kinda forgot they wanted independency.
Everyone kinda forgot about Dorne.
The scorpions kinda forgot about bullet drop.
Dany kinda forgot Jorah asked her to put faith into Tyrion.
Jon kinda forgot to speak.
Dany kinda forgot about her dad.
Cersei's soldiers kinda forgot to shoot the scorpions.
Gregor Clegane kinda forgot to listen to Cersei and Qyburn.
Qyburn kinda forgot to make wildfire.
The wights kinda forgot to kill major characters.
This is the best summary of the flaws so far.
Please add the east in this, Iron bank, Golden company and Faceless men were just.....gone
Bran kinda forgot he was busy doing 3 eyed raven work?
Sagadi! The BEST Summary (after the RUclipsr)! Excellent 🤣🤣🤣
@@SammyVOfficial Can someone explain me the Gilly bit?
"And Bran's like 'Yeah, whatever, I've got more prehistoric wheelchairs to browse.' " It seriously took me almost a full minute to stop laughing. 😂 Also, awesome Terry Funk reference!
That 18 minutes and 46 second review was more entertaining than the entire season 8 of GOT. Fantastic lol 😁
''Even buildings have plot armor now..'' OMG can't stop laughing xD
Reminds me of Warhammer 40K.
"Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?" Umm... literally everyone who has ever appeared in GoT, including Ed Sheeran.
What about the story of John fucking snow started from nothing never knew his parents rose to the top killed then brought back to life to become the king of the 7 kingdoms but noooo BRAN THE FUCKING BROKEN WHOS MIND IS ELSE WHERE AND DOESNT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING....
RIP this show man 😫
The fookin legend of Gin Alley had a better story than Bran did...
Exactly!
@@evoak8575 Are you saying they should have proposed to the Unsullied holding the city and Jon captive,
that Jon should be the person who will decide how Jon is punished?
One thing was missing from this review: the fact that a huge fucking dragon is now roaming the world and the small council says (in your words) "Nah, it'll be fine". Amazing stuff. Doesn't change the fact that you're absolutely right; it's been nearly four years and how GoT was treated in the end still breaks my heart.
8 years of loyal viewing down the toilet courtesy of inept writing.
You guys are living proof of the fact that the destination defines the journey. Which is nice. Thank you for suffering in my stead and saving me the torture of this disappointment
@TruthWiz I think GoT season 8 is so bad that it ruins everything that came before it. Don't believe me? Try rewatching the earlier seasons knowing the horrible truth you know now. Maybe someday I'll drink enough bourbon to finally forget season 7 and 8 and enjoy 1-6 but that day is not today.
B. S. That’s what I’m most disgusted about. I absolutely loved this show. It’s an amazing dichotomy. Benioff and Weiss are amazing at bringing written words to life. We have 6 seasons of absolute brilliance. They are absolute hacks at creating fresh material. We have 1 season of total letdown, and 1 season of pure filth with 1 episode I actually like.
@Mr Pickles Breaking Bad?
@Mr Pickles Breaking Bad, Death Note (even though it's anime), Spartacus, Prison Break (excluding Final Break and Season 5) or Walker Texas Ranger (guilty pleasure of mine) all have endings that do them justice.
It's a matter of keeping it fucking coherent.
"I can't believe Dany sailing to Westeros was the final scene of GoT.
So sad that HBO decided to cancel the show after only 6 seasons,
but atleast it ended on a high note."
Almost fixed it for us.
You're optimistic. This already went downhill since season 5 imo
This will be true for me. I've got 1-6 on bluray and wont ever buy 7 or 8. I'm planning to write a conclusion with a friend so I can just reject this d&d pos fanfiction.
@@RJ-cq8dd for me its 1 through 4 and I'll watch 5 just for Cersei killing those sparrow fucks. I bought the books cus of the shitty end so I hope I like those.
The death of Stannis was the Death of the show. Only good scene after that was Battle of Bastards.
"Gaaah!"
"What's wrong, Ned? Bad dream?"
"Yeah. Sorry, Catelyn. Anyway, I'm going to tell Robert no thanks."
Bronn. The man who didn't even know how debt and interests work is now Master of Coins. Bran will be a great king!
Marador Gold Bran lost Winterfell to Theon Greyjoy...
@@mikeansley5306 Yip, it's quiete telling!
Will224000 Hahaha! Guaranteed and fucks off to Dorne or something.
@@mikeansley5306 all according to keikaku
On the other hand. Bronn is the only one who has ended up with more money than he started the series with.
BRAN THE BROKEN, who dreamed that up? Such a huge disappointment and a slap in the face to all the faithful followers of Game of Thrones.
We deserved better.
I think HBO STILL doesn't understand how much D&D has cost them. Would you buy a boxed DVD set of this series, knowing how it was going to end?
They don't care they have been taken over.
Catzilla I was until season 7
@El Carlos Well you ever rewatch seasons 1-6?
They can make up the loss with Westworld and Watchman merch...
I just get the whole series on a boxed set for collection.
I've been waiting for this video ever since i watched that shit finale.
ME TOO! lol
Yup same here! haha
Ha, the same
Same
Same
I will always divide GOT between GOT Seasons 1-4, seasons 5-6, and seasons 7-8.
1-4 were hands down among the greatest television in history.
5-6 were indicative of a slow decline in writing quality, but still had its share of excellent moments(Hardhome, Hold the door, etc.)
7-8 were when all creativity and intelligent writing was completely abandoned. Characters gained plot armor, something 1-4 never would’ve dared allow, previously smart characters were dumbed completely down for plot convenience, plot holes the size of the Grand Canyon began showing, and the abrupt killing off of the Night King actually ended the show for me(like, I legit didn’t watch the final 3 episodes of the show, since the Night King’s death killed the last shred of emotional investment I had in the show).
It’s amazing just how much my admiration for the previous seasons of the show has been completely replaced by disgust and contempt for the laziness of the later seasons quality. It actually puts the Simpsons to shame in that regard.
I saw the Night King's death coming from a million miles away. Arya's development screamed Deus Ex. When she pulled that drop knife trick in the sparring session with Heavy-B I remember asking myself "Who is she gonna use that on? Valyrian steel... Night King." I think a lot of the unhappiness with the ultimate story 'twists' come from people ignoring the blatant foreshadowing on so many characters. Jon stayed true to form, Dany stayed on her inevitable path to becoming the very thing she claimed she was fighting against, etc. etc.
@@johnowen9349 Foreshadowing isn't character development. Also, that knife drop hint and Bran giving the Dagger to Arya in the first place was all made up by D&D. Jon's resurrection had everything to do with him killing the Night King, their fight was built up from the first season (most definitely in the books). You can't just take one instance of foreshadowing and say that it's enough to be believable. Once the writers lost the books, they took it in their own direction. GRRM himself stated that the writers overtook him, which he did not expect. They had Arya kill the Night King at the last minute and ignored everything they created with George in previous seasons to "subvert expectations". They said it themselves, they were really only invested for The Red Wedding (one of the best subversions EVER which... they TRIED with that last season.
It's mostly because season 1 to season 4 ep 9 adapted the books fairly closely with minor (for the book readers often annoying and maybe cheaper to the plot), not very influential changes - see Talisa/Jeyne Westerling). In the final episode of season 4, there were 2 crucial changes that started the doom of the show - no Tysha reveal and no Lady Stoneheart. Season 5 continued in the same manor and 80% of the books 4&5 did not get adapted. Some characters "followed" their book arcs in broad strokes (Dany, Jon, Arya, Theon, Cersei were kind of similiar though not the same at all, but you could say they were doing what they were supposed to in general), some only very vaguely (for example Tyrion made it to Illyrio and then to Dany's court and met Jorah on the way there, but everything about the journey was different including Tyrion himself, he was severely whitewashed in the, show and Brienne was indeed looking for Sansa with Pod in the books but that's where anything even remotly similiar ends - she travels with different characters, runs into Randyll Tarly and finally gets captured by the Brotherhood in the Riverlands and kidnaps Jaime - yeah, not even close to the show), some were drastically different (Sansa, Jaime, Asha/Yara, Euron) and didn't do even anything similiar to what they were supposed to be doing in the books. Then there were characters and plots that didn't even make it to the show but were crucial (all of Dorne, Victarion, Aegon and Jon Connington). Still, season 5 and 6 were somewhat watchable, though far from the greatness of the previous 4. Season 7 and 8 hit the rock bottom. It's practically unwatchable due to the bad writing. Nothing makes sense. It's not even entertaining bad. It's just bad. Which is a shame given the fantastic cast, music and effects.
For me, after season 5. It was a steady decline into the final turd of a finale...
People like you are truly fucking sad .
The last episode felt like what happens when you're invested in writing an interesting essay and you suddenly realize the time is almost running out so you shove a bunch of mumbo jumbo to avoid handing in a hanging story
GoT became a high budget CW show.
CW?
I think it's still better than whatever they've got planned for Batwoman
@@scarlet__eye9489 a channel on TV that's home to a lot of superhero shows like Arrow, The Flash and Black Lightning
Yes.
@@fairlyliterary4771 cheers buddy!
Sam presenting the book of Ice and Fire seems like a cheap rip off from Bilbos There and Back Again
It is
Sam wouldn't even be able to tell the full story, he'd have to fill in the gaps.
And Arya sailing for the Undying Lands.
I honestly heard the "wah-wah-waaah" trumpet sound in my head at that moment.
Remember when he said Tyrion wasn’t in it, as a crappy joke from D&D. Ugh, explain how the actual fuck Tyrion wasn’t in the book Sam? He’s the son of Tywin Lannister. His kidnapping in the north is pretty much what put the conflict in full swing since it led to Ned getting speared in the leg and bed ridden. He served as hand of the king in defense during the battle of black water. As far as everyone in Westeros knows HE IS THE ONE THAT KILLED JOFFREY!!! oh also, HE FUCKING KILLED TYWIN LANNISTER!!! He was also the hand for Daenerys, you know, the invading force that destroyed King’s landing. You would honestly have to go out of your way to not add Tyrion into the book. He played dozens of well documented, publicly known, crucial roles in the wars for the throne that their attempt to be funny, instead infuriated me.
Game of thrones didn't die it was MURDERED.
LastMan Standing honestly
I feel used....
Today on television writers essentials lesson book
It's so embarrassingly fucking retarded that it had to be intentional.
@@CMCAdvanced beat me to it. -brought to you by admiral of the intellectual viewership community, tonald loke
There was a question that was ask in the pick of game of thrones success …
“Is there something Lord of the rings has, that game of thrones doesn’t?”.
Things that it had:
-Awesome fight scenes.
-Gore.
-Drama.
-Sex.
- Magic.
- Well written characters.
-Dragons.
- Giants.
-Zombies.
-Culture.
-STAKES.
The One thing that GOT didn’t have, that LOTR had.
A well done ending.
GOT doesn't even have an ending. The show does, they never bothered to finish the books. And never will . Unless someone takes over and finishes it for him after he dies.
Was anticipating this more than the finale tbh.
Sansa: and the north will be an independent kingdom!
Bran: (nods)
All other kingdoms: so...can we be independent?
Bran: (shakes head)
Ffs Sansa... North doesn't recognize you as a king but wants to be independent. THAT'S FOOKING BRAN WHO'S NED STARK'S ONLY LIVING SON! Fook off show
Dorne: "Wait, she can do that?? I didn't know we can do that... we can do that??
perun1nj she can’t do that! Shoot her....or... something
@@jamesa7147 we can't. We lost all scorpions and we somehow forgot for what bows and crossbows are... They are for cleaning the shit house, right?
All Jon would have to do is show up in Winterfell and he would be King with Sansa getting the boot
Grayworm was like "Yeah take that Jon, enjoy your lifetime punishment in a place you love" lol
"I don't want it!"
Patrick Crum “Don’t throw me in that brier patch!!!” Said Aegon Targaryen
I don’t think Jon wanted that
@@hebrewthought9976 obviously he probably might have made a different choice for his fate but seriously you think he's going to have an unhappy life?
@@hebrewthought9976 I think a lot of wise eastern men will meditate long and deep on the question what it actually is what Jon wants.
D&D wanted to give everyone a happy ending, totally forgetting that A Song Of Ice And Fire was never about happy endings. It was about consequences, for one. Remember Ed Stark and how he was loved and seemingly did everything right and by the book (of honor)? Guess what, that's not how the game of throne works, and he died for it. Everyone who made a mistake in the game of thrones was punished for it. And here we have season 8, where everyone can make the most dumb mistakes and not only get away with it, but rewarded for it. D&D really forgot what made the books and the early seasons of the show great. They valued fan service and nice visuals over great story telling. I can' t believe how dissapointed I still am about this. They had gold, but turned it into shit
Your point literally supports the ending.
Jon is the main character and just like Ned he is too honest and ends up being banished to the north.
Isn’t that a consequence, just like Ned losing his head?
@@Mallemartinnn valid point, but that is just one character who indeed faces consequences. And a consequence that isn't even all that bad for him. He knows the North and made it work before. Tyrion makes a ton of mistakes and never really gets in that much trouble.
@@royvandijk7119 i can see your point. You can notice when the books ended in the show. After season 6 no main characters die or suffer. There are indeed no consequences. Very un-GoT
YOU AHR MUH KWEEN, YOUL OLWEEZ BE MUH KWEEN
I DON WUNNIT
I LUV HAA
I KANT KOUNT TO TWENTEEE
MUH QUEEN!
lightning muh kween
Game of Thrones SCREAMS for an episode of “The Drinker Fixes”!!!
I'd pay to see that episode
I think 'The Drinker Fixes Game of Thrones' would need its own bloody series.
YES YES YES!!!! Come on Drinker! I've already taken your version of Luke Skywalker as canon!
That's what I was thinking. Don't know that it is fixable using the rules he has set.
@@NoizyInSeattle personally, I don't mind if he bends the rules because this unholy mess was 3+ seasons squashed into 6 episodes
In the final scene, Ghost should have attacked and killed Jon for being a dumb, animal neglecting Dany-puppet.
Then Ghost barks loudly with subtitles translating: 'For the Watch!'
better yet Ghost turns out to be the new Night King
Ghost is completely silent, remember?
Alexander Howard the writers didn’t
SuperJoop L M A O O O
Went from “it doesn’t matter whose skeleton sits on the iron throne” to “the iron throne was always the main plot.” I cannot believe the White Walkers got tossed aside.
Yeah dude, I totally expected Jamie or Cersei to cough and come back to life. THAT'S how low my expectations had got.
lol I was like "didn't the whole ceiling fell down as far as I remember?". Turns out history is always rewritten next episode in this season.
Dielson Sales that’s what I’m saying underrated point. This season is honestly childish
@@DielsonSales Right? The fucking catacombs collapsed. But when Tyrion gets there it's only a tiny piece of rubble in some corner? And the two of them are perfectly fine without a scratch. They would have been mush...such a waste.
I was hoping Tyrion was using the brick on Cersei's head because she got Jamie killed. Nope, Tyrion is sad his sadistic sister, who tried to kill him more than any one on the entire show, had died.
lmao me too
Apparently they're now employing Tyrion to go into earthquake zones in the hunt for missing persons.
That little bugger can get into any hole and find a needle in a stack of needles.
And he can't be killed.
You skipped the part about how the noble families are not only happy to accept Bran (a Stark) as their King, but even do so after Sansa declares the North is leaving- an event that would have triggered civil war in any earlier season. So a Stark will rule the 6 kingdoms even though the land of the Starks just seceded. And that the other kingdoms are fine with staying part of this broken empire that no longer has any central power, despite earlier wars for independence by the Iron Islands and Dorn.
Yeah what a mess of an episode, Yara was all "You killed my queen, my ally that swore the Iron Islands would be an independant kingdom! Why should I trust what you say?" and then hey, we're gonna put a Stark on the throne, and declare the north free, and send Jon up to probably become the king beyond the wall, cool Starks own 3/4's of Westeros now... 5 minutes later -- All in favor? "Yara: Aye." Wtf ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Martells would want independence and the are the only kingdom with an army.
The Ironborn want independence and had been promised it by Dany.
Eh well, of all the things that were a complete mess in this season I don’t really think this was one of them.
The starks are an ancient people and were kings of the north far before anyone else. They have the blood of the first men. Considering the starks had just defend the realm from the invasion of the night king like they did thousands of years prior, if they say they want to be independent they have certainly earned the right to be far above anyone else.
Kingship with the starks was such a big deal that when aegon decided to conquer westoros and kept winning all his battles then set his eyes for the North, the king of the starks then (Torren) decided to swear fealty to aegon rather than fight him.
He was then known as torren stark, the king that knelt.
No other king at that time bore such a title because they were never kings that long anyway.
Basically north independence is the most important independence if you look to the history of Westeros so I don’t mind that in the show people didn’t object, it makes sense.
Seriously,,,, her separating the north even though her brother became king would have made every other house want their own independence too xD
@@LegendInThaMakin "Considering the starks had just defend the realm from the invasion of the night king like they did thousands of years prior, if they say they want to be independent they have certainly earned the right to be far above anyone else." - wasn't that a co-op effort? And also wasn't Dany forces the main defense?
I think the worst possible thing that was left was the motive of the night King, the importance of Bran and their connection. I was really hoping to see some massive reveal about Bran being the night king or something. Just a waste of a show, still upsetting to think about the last 3 seasons