Music Teacher Reacts: TINA S - Through The Fire And Flames
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2021
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Music Teacher Reacts: TINA S - Through The Fire And Flames
This one was requested and the team brought it to me. Tina S is a fantastic guitar player and has a lot of internet fame. Seems only fitting to finally dissect and analyze what she's doing technique wise!
Thanks for the support and I hope you love the video.
Sending Love,
-DJ
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Herman Li himself said that Tina killed it with this song, she nailed it. I doubt you can get better reference than that.
Thank you!
Didn't he say she had the best cover he's seen? Or at least one of the best. Major achievement when the original artist loves your cover.
Herman mentioned it in his reaction of this a while ago, but the reason she's blending his and Sam's parts are because of the particular tracks that she's working with. There's a drum track, there's a keyboard track, a vocal track, a bass track and a guitar track. Yes, one guitar track, despite there being two guitarists. So there's no isolation of either Herman or Sam to be able to blank out in order for her guitar to fill in. They can remove all or none of the guitars, and for the purposes of a guitar cover... yea.
This is also why there are some added harmonics to her output to help emulate the 2 guitars.
Yep, just how Herman explained it! That’s why it’s so much more creative than just playing over the guitar track.
Herman also called it the best cover he heard and invited Tina to show up at any Dragonforce show and play it together.
Yes the track was made for GH3
Herman mentioned unless you play it everyday it's hard. This was a one off studio for guitar hero
She also played it like this, since it's normally two guitars and she is doing the work all by herself. She basically did her own arrangement to make it fit properly.
Herman Li himself did a RUclips review of Tina S playing this song and stated "this is the best cover of this song hes ever heard and should he not want to play this song anymore Tina S would be his go to person to play it" watching his review was really cool to see he actually had alot of emotions watching her play this was very cool to watch. My rant is over lol 😆 much love
Herman Li said that Tina's cover was probably the best he had heard. People tend to forget that she's covering the guitar tracks of 2 guitar players so she had to put her own spin on it. Herman said that in the stam tracks, the guitars couldn't be separated because they were done together at the same time. I think Tina nailed it.
When Herman Li reacted to this, he rated it "Oh shit...oh fuck...shit..." plus one additional "damn" and another "shit". And his face read "I need a new job.".
She also does a great interpetation of Ludwig van Beethovens "Monlight Sonata"
Can’t wait to check that one out next!
DJ last night I recommend saving that for last. I changed my mind. You should definitely do the Beethoven next. Lots to consider in that one. Like she's only 17 and had only been playing electric four years. Even the classical stance with the guitar on her left leg is worth noting. You're gonna have a LOT to unpack.
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YES!! Her Beethoven is absolutely incredible. She learned that years prior as a young girl and brings it out on her Vigier. Really too much badassery for one person to possess.💪🏻🤘🏻
@@TempleMusicAcademy Yes. That is incredible. It’s even better than Dr Viossey’s version [original arranger].
Tina S does a great Interpretation of ANY song :D Well ok there are a few guys out there who have theire "own" style of playing the guitar. What mostly sounds great but also looks freakingly funny :D I bet with those techniques she would have some time until she have em but also.. those cant play a guitar regulary ,, so its Even :D
Vigier Guitars is a French company they do both guitars and basses. Their originals were Neck-through, active electronics, fixed bridge and usually Benedetti humbuckers. They were founded in the 1980s. Now days you can get bolt-ons, trim, etc.
Exceeding quality. Not lot's of frills or features from what I know.
You know, when Herman Li says that out of the hundreds of covers he's heard, this one is by far his favorite, there shouldn't be any controversy.
Might add that he tried to get ahold of her without any luck, and he invited her to come play with them anytime.
@@Partdevil Oh wow, I didn't know that. Thats awesome! I hope she takes him up on that sometime.
And yet there are still idiots trying to say she faking it.
As other commentators have pointed out the solo section is two guitarists playing, which shows how amazingly talented Tina is to play it like she did.
Herman Li did a reaction on his channel and, from what I remember, he loved it.
He literally said ''shit, fuck'' couple of times so yeah you remember right :D :)
@@TheMrakic Herman tried to find her in France when they were on tour in 2016. They wanted her to come on stage or even just hang out. But, she is as elusive as J.D. Salinger.
@@frankiek2269 She's busy with college afaik
I just, I mean, I I yi Tina S so amazing a person, I can imagine the discipline she went through training learning studying guitar. She a pleasure to watch and hear her play, I get, I really get emotional. She is the epitome of cool and beautiful.. and professional master one to listen to and say these words without shame. I feel blessed to have seen and hear her, even if only via youtube. I think I would be humbled to my shame if ever in her presence. For I have not committed myself to a art as on the scale she Tina S has. I could imagine her joy of learning as well as her trying circumstances that life throws at everyone, yet she persevered to always got to her guitar lesson, go to her room to pick up her guitar her instrument of choice and learn more even on cold nights of pain life's cold circumstances had each of us at different times through each of our years of life, she (as others like her) chose to not stop, not give in or give up but chose to practice and hone her skills mastering each level through each year of her life. I imagine the guitar can be a great escape from trying times as well as a great unity for social occasions. I don't know, I played a little drums before, and one time a real band was visiting. I was just learning drums, practice, and to my amazement the visiting band walked into where I was practicing. I started to stand up to yield the drums to their drummer. One of the band members said, hey what are you doing, stick around, stay right there, play with us. I said I am new and just learning. He said something like O' thats nice. As we spoke these words the band members were gearing up guitars and Keyboards. I was so intimidated, yet felt invited and friendship. I sat back down thinking I gotta do more than my fall into 9ne two three beats, I have to pushing some rolls (see, I never even learned the proper terminology pfft sry) So I sat back down, he told just jump in, and I did, I was new to the songs they chose, but I was able to hear a few cords correctly and started playing, before I knew it, I'm am not bragging on trying to say I can play drums, but something awesome happened, I'll remember it the rest of my life, I really joined in, I felt the music, I went somewhere special like never before, I got a happy nod from the guitarist who told me to stick around and man a live it was more than great, but yes, my thinking actually interrupted me, I starting realizing where I was while playing and enjoying being in the music, my thinking started telling me to not mess up, keep that kick going keep those sticks in this amazing groove I was in, my thoughts pulled me out a couple times, but the band never missed their place and kept playing, and so I quickly put myself back in that special spot of music flowing. All honesty, I never felt that before in any lessons that the locals gave me.
So yes, I have amazing respect for Tina S and hope only health happiness and GOD SPEED to her and her Family (her friends too). She is shooting for the distance of life long musician.
Okay, sry for so much here, going now.
Great video teacher, loved hearing you break down for us viewers what Tina was doing to deliver the amazing sounds on the guitar
She already out plays a lot of thr pros out there its crazy how effortlessly it is for her I wish I could play half as good as she does
I4d be happy with a 10th of her talent
For me as a non-guitarist watching Tina it just blows me away. So cool to hear someone like yourself give your thoughts based on you actually knowing what you´re talking abut :). Def worth a sub!
First you think she's so cute but then you realise she's a classically trained musician no rock guitarists can match. She's something else.
This is a superb reaction. Thank you. Understandably, most reactions are just jaw on the floor appreciations and they are fun at first but, soon become tiring. I love your knowledge, your respect for the artist and the quite softly spoken presentation. I really appreciate it. Can't wait for more. :)
Thanks for the kind words! Welcome to our channel and family!
I know nothing about music or guitar playing but I appreciated it, too. I watched a couple of jaw-on-the-floor general reactions, an analysis by a classical music expert of her Beethoven performance, and now this one by an electric guitar expert. It was probably the most insightful and interesting one. You explained some things that I had literally never heard of and gave me an indirect peek into the world of electric guitar that I didn't realize was quite so complex.
For a close look at pure insane skill, check out Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement. For pure feel/soul check out her Stevie Vai For the Love of God cover.
Tina was classically trained from age 6 until age 13 when she switched to electric and began studying under French jazz rock guitarist Renaud Louis-Servais. Her last post was the Beethoven performance at age 17.
Oh, beware of a troll account claiming her demise with "In Memoriam" posts. It's a fake and sick.
Tina S is amazing, I love her. Vigier is a french brand well know for it's 90/10 system which consists of a wood neck reinforced with a carbon slab. A normal wood neck is too flexible, resulting in the strings losing energy when played, reducing both the sustain and impact of the note. The 90/10 system alleviates this problem. Additionally, the carbon prevents the neck from deforming due to climate or a change in string gauge or tuning. Normally, this is why a truss rod is used, but with the 90/10, there is no need for one.
Wow!! I’m tired from just watching her! Time to take a nap 😴 Great breakdown DJ. I had no idea about pick angle or many things you talked about!!
This is a great analysis! Thanks for it!
Loved the Guitar Playing and your "react" to it. Loved her cheeky smile at the beginning and end of her cover too. I wish Tina S would come out of retirement. watching her play anything with such enthusiasm and skill just has to cheer you up.
Speed, harmony, feeling...very deep, mixed up together. We instantly eat all of it, no need water to flush it. She is guitar master, the best I have ever seen.
The "controversy" is that a bunch of middle aged men (ok, I'm guessing a bit there...) can't fathom a girl is able to play this and believe it is sped up. Herman Li said 'This might actually be the best cover I've seen'. I like that she plays partly Herman's parts and partly Sam's parts. It makes it more interesting to me. As a lot of people have suggested, check out her Moonlight Sonata. Makes this look like a warm up exercise.
"Take one" - The only take she needs.
Been watching Tina’s videos for a couple years now and I have to say your reaction is one of, if not the, best. Loved your breakdown of the chords and picking which helped me understand and appreciate it that much more. Great video!
PS - check out her cover of For the Love of God..almost brought me to tears 😭
Wow! Thank you so much Michael! Your comment has made me smile tonight. ❤️
do you know what happened to Tina? MIA for years
This is an excellent breakdown explanation. Subbed!
Thank you so much and welcome to
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Anyone that critiques Tina S. In any way,shape or form. Needs to step off the podium and impress the class. I've been playing for thirty five years. And seen alot of great guitarists. And she blows the doors off them. Good reaction video. Impressive as hell. Nicely worded.
The best reaction to Tina S Through the Fire and Flames came from Herman Li. Herman didn't have one bad thing to say about this.
Herman Li reacted to this video and he was super impressed. Sent out an invite for Tina to come play with them anytime she wanted. No issues from his reaction video.
Somebody below (or above) noted that Herman Li did a reaction to Tina S and about the only criticism he could find was that Tina should have had a fan blowing her hair! He was 100 % appreciative. And at least at the time of that review thought it was the probably the best cover of the song, and noted that if he needed someone to step in for him, he knew whom he could call! It's really a fun review by Herman Li. Her cover of Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata" is really good, but I prefer Tina's Cover of Steve Vai's "For the Love of God" over that, just for the beauty of that song. [ Of course, the Moonlight Sonata on piano would place above "For the Love of God" ... for me! ]
@@0ParisFrance That's cool!
If you haven’t seen these yet for the love of god is amazing and altitudes is just crazy amazing. Even if you have seen it, I really enjoy your breakdowns of what’s happening.
Thanks Ian! Those are coming up soon :)
Astounding ❤
❤Tina with out a doubt TARES A PATCH!!!!! ON THE GUITAR 🎸
UNBELIEVABLE ❤
I personally love her version of Jason Becker's Altitudes and just for a fun listen, I really enjoyed her version of Megadeth's Tornado of Souls. Would love to hear your breakdown on both of those.
EXCELLENT reaction and musical guitar technique recognition TMA! You should have a master class too! (Former drummer turned baseball player who loves the details in everything}.
Thanks Keith!
How awesome must France be that when you are fed up with fame you can just return to a normal life without hassle. 👏🏻
Herman Li himself said..."Making a cover isn't about playing 1 to 1" he was reacting to this video when he said it.
I love this Dragonforce cover... they are one of my favourite bands. I've paid money to see them live. But, you have to listen to her do Moonlight Sonata...
Ive watched so many covers of this, she has by far the best and its not even close, and of course Heman li himself said so.
It is a Vigier Excalibur Custom. Made in France. I have a Vigier Excalibur Supra, has a zero fret. Best playing guitar I have ever played. Incredibly low action. Pricey. One she is playing, probably around $4500 or higher.
herman reacted and loved her version...he was critiquing the online opinions that she was the best...he actually stopped to watch certain parts over and was wowed...he ended up saying the shev IS the best cover of this song...herman was particularly astonished at the lead sction at 8:47 played here...."HOLY SHIT" he said
check out her Stevie Vai For the Love of God cover
She was chewing gum and in some of the solo section she was not even looking at the guitar while she was shredding the shit out of it hands down best female guitar player i have ever heard
You really know what you’re talking about dude! Awesome job!
Thanks so much!
Herman Li told us exactly how she did this. The track from Guitar Hero # was downloaded to set the guitar track apeart.
Oh god I hope she comes back to YT at some point. My face needs more melt :D
She is amazing! I hope she does a good warming up before playing; she won't want to suffer any injuries.
2:32 Vigier is a French brand specializing in high-end electric guitars and basses. The company was founded in 1980 by Patrice Vigier and manufactures its instruments in Grigny, in the Essonne department.
Guitar brand is a Vigier, model is Excalibur. It's a high end manufacturer from France. That model is quite expensive ;)
This girl here is the best guitar player on the planet! There is not one guitar player she can not play note for note but at the same time add her own style and sound. She does this guitar thing for purely fun and excitement of her craft thus she's no longer on RUclips anymore I'm pretty sure she went off to college but could be wrong. Just one last note I see comments all over her stuff saying "she's the best female guitar player" Uhhh this has nothing to do with female or male its all about guitar playing and for me she is the BEST. Enough ranting lol play on Tina
DJ !!!!! I EFFIN' LOVE YOU !!!! MISS YOUR FACE! I'mma tune in more
Amazing thing is that she
was 15 when sh did this...now she's 21
I believe she was 15 when she recorded this. While her friends were failing miserably to nail this on a plastic guitar with colorful buttons...she was doing this. While chewing gum. And barely looking at the fretboard. *sigh*
Nombreux... nombreux soupirs... vous oubliez le bruit insupportable des boutons en plastique... Il y a une video de réaction d'herman Li avec un joueur de Guitar hero... malgré l'exploit, c'était franchement éprouvant pour les oreilles...
She’s the greatest guitarist in the world. No exceptions. At **15**. Even this ridiculous song-where she’s not looking at the guitar and even chewing gum-comes I second to her Beethoven. It just sucks that she’s not on tour. She has a band callled ‘spin twice’. Well worth seeing how she’s doing today.
Thank you… very interesting video.
Well a 16 year old playing like that she’s got a fan right here I will tell yA she’s in collage now can’t wait till she’s out and hopefully playing still miss her
3 very unique versions of this song:
Audrey🛸Shida [guitar/pod bass]
Dragonforce; "Thru the Fire & Flames" [full playthrough]
ruclips.net/video/z6Nqq2QXBiE/видео.html
💗JUNNA💗 [drums]
Dragonforce; "Through the Fire and Flames" [full playthrough]
ruclips.net/video/UKr1H4Jv6is/видео.html
🎹Gamazda🎹 [piano]
Dragonforce; "Thru the Fire & Flames" [full playthrough]
ruclips.net/video/rsSRpyxNJPc/видео.html
what cracked me up was when I saw Herman react to this and you could just tell by the end, he just didn't even want to show examples of licks live. To me it just seemed like he thought at this point in time that girl probably could shred that thing way better than he could lol... he had his guitar in hand with like a dozen others lying around and it's like as he said "let me show you" he just thought about it and went like meeeh.. huh... Oh I can't sowy..
Herman Li said : Sh*t, she kill it "
Herman Li's reaction of this is classic. He was so impressed.
Fantastic amazing talent if someone is going to be critical of this performance they better step up to the plate and demonstrate
Mary on Richard's phone from Florida whoa little out of my league I'm loving it and understanding what you're talking about so hey some improvement here I got to just keep watching ya
She's a machine,that's all there is to it!🤘
I found the channel because of vocal reactions but I didn't know you did instrumentals as well. Are we going to see more of this? I'm really curious what comments you would have on some John petrucci performances from dream theater or liquid tension experiment.
One of greatest ever 👍👍👍👍
For the love of god, by Steve Vai. Even better than the original imho.
Beethoven Sonata.
jill from unlucky morpheus violin cover too
Remember, this was back in 2015. She''s only 16 and she's chewing gum! LOL. I just watched a video of Herman watching her. When it was over, he was pretty much speechless. He said her version of this song was the best he had ever heard. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/k6b_IyM42hc/видео.html But he did say he is a big fan of adding your own touch and style.
"Oh fuck........shit." - Herman Li
Vigier also make bass guitars, iirc Deep Purple's bassist plays one (ever since the company's owner demo'd it for him, by standing on the neck, it bending until the strings got all floppy, and it still played in key.
Try her cover of Altitudes by Jason Becker. Superb.
Yep. Her sweeps in this one are insane.
She was 16, just like Becker when composing the 1st (albeit still a bit primal/crude, different than the final) iteration of this song.
Vigier are, I think, French.
Roger Glover of Deep Purple has used their basses for about thirty years.
You´re right ! Vigier guitars and basses are designed and manufactured in factory near Paris, France
She's a french
I believe Vigier guitars are French. The ones she plays the Excalibur Customs I've seen run from 3 grand to 6 grand depending.. I also believe they are like a special order type deal like real ESP ( not LTD). I think to get one new you have to actually contact them and do a Custom order etc. She has or had quite a few back when she was doing these YT video's.
Another band to check out is unleash the archers from BC,Canada. Start with awakening live studio play through then just branch out. Also check out nikko whitworth’s channel he was the bassist for uta back in 2015-2018 till they went there separate ways
5:27 You can see that this was filmed in two parts. In the part where you see her entirely, her hair falls in front of the guitar, but when it zooms in on her hand 5:31, her hair is behind the guitar.
yes it's live
Check out her version of Steve Vai's For the Love of God
You are correct about Herman, he much prefers people add their own flair to a song.
When the actual guitarist says -"Holy Shit" you have no reason to criticize
Vigier Guitars, France. I kinda want one for myself since my 57 strat was stolen ;x I just can't have nice things!
And its Totman Sam Totman.And Herman Li said this is by far his favorite most accurate cover hes seen so far.
A must reakt is junna dragon force drum Cover!!!!!! She kills IT.. 😅
Long story short, Tina S is amazing!
Would love to see you react to Frasier Edward's stop saying we sound like dragon force is an awesome parody, even dragon force reacted to it
i hate people who say "it looks sped up" or "she has no emotion" no its not sped up and you can see with her head movements she is into it.. also one other point if you think this is good you should check out moonlight sonata and for the love of god.
I respectfully disagree, and admit I could very well could be wrong. It seems sped up by like 10-15% I'm not basing it on her hands, but her head has some jerky/snap when she moves. Also in the shoulders it looks like there are some unnatural movements. I've done quite a bit of video editing and the video just looks sped up a bit.
All of that being said, it's still incredible, even at 85-90% speed, just insane at how easy she makes it look. The fact she doesn't look at the fret board during some of the most intense parts of the solo is nuts.
Just my thoughts on the video. Cheers.
@@0ParisFrance Typically I've found that when my cameras aren't able to pick up the speed of something, you get severe motion blur, and not the jerky movements in the rest of the limbs. I suppose it's possible that they sped up they cranked the filming to get limit motion blur then sped it up to normal speed in post.
Again, I could be wrong, I'm just a casual editor myself. Either way, I still enjoy the video.
@@0ParisFrance I'm not saying it was. I'm just commenting on what I see
@@cheffrey19 You can respectfully disagree, but you're wrong either way. There's zero evidence to even slightly suggest it's sped up, not including that not one pro guitarist/teacher etc that's reacted to her videos has pointed out anything you just said. Because it's not there..
@@artanor thanks for the strong point, wish I thought of that. You convinced me
If you look at the comments of the original guitarplayer ; he explaines why she did it differently:
ruclips.net/video/k6b_IyM42hc/видео.html
Yeah I think Herman Li’s reaction video sums it up very well. Oddly enough he didn’t criticize her on her power chords fingering lol
moi, tout mes accords type Bb (1ere case) puissance ou pas, je les fais avec barré par index et petit barré par auriculaire...
@@0ParisFrance désolé Philippe... tu dois confondre, je n'ai aucune vidéo en ligne...
I think she is using that fingering for the chords because she started as a classical player where you learn to use a different finger for each note of the chord (when possible) instead of barring with one finger. This is much more conducive to finger picking different note by lifting fingers.
I think that was the Herman Li Pac-Man noise. Super cool
Herman Li at one point was trying to contact her to invite her to come play on stage at their Paris show but never received a response from her rep
@@0ParisFrance I don’t know, that’s just what he said lol
After watching this Herman Li said: "Well, I know who to call if I don't want to play that song any more."
It's an auto wah that's pick/volume sensitive so it's always on time.
Not sure if anyone else has answered this or you have invoked the power of Google in the meantime but Vigier is a French high-end guitar manufacturer. They make some very interesting guitars, including fretless. The major guitar of note of their you may have seen is Bumblefoot's doubleneck with a fretless and fretted neck.
How come, that every shot we get from her upper body, there’s hair hanging over the fret board, once we get a closeup of the fret board, the hair is gone?
Gotta react to her Steve vai cover and the loner
Tina is French the guitar is French made and is a very good guitar . She was given several guitars from this manufacture , She is probably the best female guitarist there is , she disappeared about 3 years ago , no word where or why , your guess is as good as mine .
I seriously doubt any of you detractors could play this at 15 years old. I didn't discover her till after she had been off to college for a few years and check RUclips and Facebook regularly to see if there is anything new. I sure miss her.
Shes a beast!!!
Loved your break down DJ.
Can you break down and walk us through Tina S version of Steve Vai's For the Love of God? I'd love to get your take on it. Thx
It’s coming up soon!
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Thanks. I'm beginner - intermediate player and she is doing stuff that i don't understand how she's doing it.
Can't wait!! Thanks for response.
@@izz5141 if you ever need help, I’m around! We can do a zoom session!
12:40 talking about not covering a solo note for note and that's probably what Herman Li wants - that's literally exactly what he himself said on his reaction video.
Vigier is french, really good guitars.