This Captain Did The Exact Opposite Of What He Was Told | Garuda Indonesia Flight 200
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This is the story of Garuda airlines flight 200. On the 7th of march 2007 a garuda indonesia boeing 737 was to make the flight from soekarno hatta international airport to Yogyakarta. The plane had 133 passengers two pilots and 5 flight attendants on board. The flight was to leave early on in the morning and that day they were having some trouble with the left hand engine thrust reverser, so the pilots called up the ground techs and they reset the thrust reverser and the problem went away. With that issue out of the way the pilots took the 737 to the runway and they took off with the captain being the pilot flying for this leg of the flight while the first officer kept an eye on everything. At the top of the descent the pilots were briefing their approach into yogyakarta but while they were doing this the pilots still had to make radio calls. With the plane lined up with the runway the controllers on the ground at yogakarta let the pilots know that they had been cleared for a visual landing on runway 09. They could now descend to 2500 feet. The crew had the ILS of the runway tuned in on their avionics stack just so that they would be able to get a little bit of guidance on their way down. As the plane lined up with the runway the captain relaized that somethign was wrong, the plane was too high and he needed to lose about 4000 feet in altitude and with how close the plane was getting to the runway hed have to do it fast. So the captain put the plane into a descent. At this point the plane had picked up some serious speed and they were well above 250 knots. As they dropped the captain mentioned that strong winds were buffeting the plane. But despite all that the captain had done the plane was still too high and now the runway was starting to creep up on them. The realization that this approach might be too unstable was starting to dawn on the pilots. The captain said “the target is 6 point 6 ILS, we will not reach it”. Now the captain wanted to do a trade, he wanted to trade off his excess height and speed, but he did not succeed in doing that the plane started to fly erratically and the pitch of the plane varied quite a lot. In an attempt to bleed off some of the excess speed that they had picked up on their way down the pilots started to extend the flaps hoping that the extra drag would slow the plane down. It still wasnt enough the captain exclaimed, “oh there is something not right”, despite everything that the captain had done the plane was still above the glideslope. To get down to the runway the pilot put the plane into a steep approach path. This as you all know was not standard procedure. Far from it. The pitch varied from 3.5 degrees nose up to 3.8 degrees nose down and the rate of descent peaked at 3500 feet per minute. The plane was now starting to give the pilots sink rate warnings they lost altitude. The plane was still too fast at 240 knots. It was so bad that the pilots couldn't extend the flaps of the 737 to where it needed to be for the landing as extending the flaps to the landing setting at this speed would definitely damage the plane. At this time the plane was giving them too low terrain warnings at this point you're supposed to pull the plane out of the dive command max power and then get to safety. But these pilots did not do that, they pushed ahead with the approach. When the plane was 217 feet off of the ground the first officer told the captain to go around but the captain diregarded the first officers pleas. The captain was being told by the plane and the first officer to go around but he did not budge. He kept going with the approach. The captain then strangely asks his first officer if the landing checklist had been completed.
the plane lost altitude and touched down on the runway it was obvious that something was wrong. This plane was going way too fast. The plane touched down and then bounced. The first officer asked the captain to go around but the captain did not heed his advice. The plane hit the runway again, compressing the gear all the way this time. The pilots were now struggling to keep this plane on the runway centerline right now. But the pilots were fighting a losing battle. 
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What really disturbs me is that Garuda Indonesia pilots were financially incentivized to land as quickly as possible
I knew it had to be something like that. Many airlines have had similar crashes either due to outright punishment, or forcing them to do excess paperwork "justifying" the TOGA decision. If any crew member says, "go round," then... Go around!
@@pickles3128 How can an airline possibly be that stupid, when a crash can easily bankrupt them.
An international airline that I have a lot of contact with, has a rule where, a terrain, glide slope, or bank angle alarm has to be reported to the chief pilot, along with an explanation. No pilot would ever want the stick shaker to activate. They also have a rule of regularly flying manually on a flight of up to 2 hours.
The result, 55 years without a crash or incident resulting in injury.
Can you guess the airline.? Clue, you never see them on RUclips videos. LOL
@@wilsjaneCan you tell me which airline it is?
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 The airline is Aer Lingus, one of the best run international airlines in the world.
They also have the highest percentage of female pilots. Crews, including cabin, are kept together and operate from their home airports. They are like one big family, working and playing together. To them, it is just a way or life, without geographical problems getting to work.
Would you like to hear a very funny story.?
The fallout of this crash was ban of Garuda and other Indonesian airlines were banned from flying to EU countries. Frankly, that airline has had a rather tutbulent history, recent years included.
Turbulent!
@@FilliamPL Probably both figuratively AND literally. -_-
that's good news to me man, ground the whole airline.. the F.O. "didn't have the simulator training necessary to take over the airplane"?
why is he even freaking there then? besides, the correct answer to "have we finished the landing checklist" was simply "no". "go. around. i said"..
like they promote their f.o.'s from the lead flight attendant position. pathetic.
@@Danstaafl they are already allowed to fly everywhere again. This was practically 30 years ago, dummy.
@@Danstaafl Don't we at least train flight attendants how to land in case of emergency? I always recall that story of that 83-year-old retired attendant successfully making a smooth landing after the captain of a small plane was medically incapacitated. She was a badass!
As an Australian, I remember this crash being pretty big news when it happened. At the time, the Australian Foreign Minister and Attorney-General were doing a diplomatic visit to Indonesia, with a bunch of official events around various cities in Java. As such, there was a solid contingent of passengers on board the accident flight that were either journalists following around the diplomatic visit, or their support personnel.
Are they all survived?
@@lalalili3365 4 Australians died
I googled what everyone must be wondering - the captain and first officer survived, and "on 6 April 2009, the captain was found guilty of negligence and sentenced to two years of imprisonment.[ The captain's lawyers stated their intention to appeal on the basis that the Convention on International Civil Aviation, to which Indonesia is a party, stipulates that aviation accident investigation reports cannot be used to ascribe blame, but only to determine cause. The Garuda Pilots Association and Indonesian Pilots Federation threatened to strike in protest against the conviction On 29 September 2009 the Indonesian High Court overturned the conviction, finding that the prosecutors had failed to prove that the pilot was "officially and convincingly guilty of a crime".
Given that every pilot risks their own life as well it's reasonable to have a policy like that, but this guy can't be fixed, that was insane. After the first bounce, being told to go around and still refusing to, that says it all :(
They should have let them strike. The captain is a murderer.
So this captain is still flying?
This is all insane.
Only 2 years for killing 21 people? Talk about a really light sentence. I'd sentence him to at least 25 years or more. This was complete negligence and disregard for everyone's safety.
150 knots: normal SOP
254 knots: the insane CAPT (that is it chief keep it going man)
This is definitely the best channel since Doug DeMuro to begin all the videos with "This..."
I feel slightly guilty saying this as he can't help it - it's just how he's built and his style - but I can't watch Doug Demuro. I did for a while until I realised that by the end of his videos, I was clenching my jaw - and the desk - and hardly breathing by the end of it such was the jarring and tension inducing effect of his grating, American inflected, shrill, stressy treble delivery! I literally just did a little shudder in recollection....
@@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Doug is terrible. He frequently makes errors and oversights, is a terrible driver, and never shows any interest in improving. I can't watch.
Did the pilot forget that reducing engine power is also an effective way to lose speed & altitude?
Good point!
It's also got speed brakes but it sounds like the captain didn't use them.
I expected that this would end with the pilots being unable to stop their steep descent _because_ they had spooled the engines down to idle.
@@philiphumphrey1548 didn't even use the goddamend flaps
Speed is controlled with the control column and altitude with the throttle on approach.
You don't want to be pushing the stick forward to reduce altitude on approach - it's flight school 101.
Again, an argument i have used before but this incident took place in 2007 - not 1977. Essentially there is nothing additional procedurally, technically or training-wise which could result from the incident because everything was already in place. In essence, if you get a pilot who is wilfully prepared to disregard all the existing - and perfectly adequate - procedures and safeguards, what use would additional ones have been in a similar event?
Did the pilot wilfully do it? These types of phenomena are poorly understood. There are some people who will just revert to instinct no matter how much training you give them. Even if they seem completely rational normally, can cope in the simulator, etc. When reality hits their brains just don't seem tuned for overriding whatever natural programming/flaws the brain has.
These people just exist. When they cause an accident it's almost always clear that either their airline had seen this behaviour in them but ignored it, or they hadn't been at this airline long, because other airlines had let them go because they did notice it - but either the pilot obfuscated why they were switching airlines, or the airline didn't care or look into the history.
I don't remember the name of the accident, but there's another one like this with a cargo plane pilot. The guy had been a pilot for quite a while if I remember correctly. The plane was in an entirely stable state, all instruments showed this, but visibility wasn't very good. The pilot (who was FO I think) gets some sort of sensory illusion and thinks they're stalling, and just immediately pushes the nose down into a steep dive. He carries on doing this for several seconds before the captain realises (and at the last moment so does the FO) and try to pull up but there's footage and the plane just comes out of the clouds and straight into the ground.
That pilot had a history of doing things like this. He'd been through several airlines. Some of which had spent a ton of time trying to help him and teach him. But it didn't matter how much training they gave him. Whenever his brain was in a real situation his natural instincts, call it fight or flight, reactions, whatever they were- always overrode any training he had.
The airline would inevitably drop him when they realised he was just a danger. This event was in the US and it did cause some serious industry changes if I remember correctly. Before this airlines didn't have to share information with each other, there was nothing close to an accessible central database, and on top of that many airlines would actually prefer not to cooperate because they were worried about privacy violations to getting sued.
Personally I'm actually surprised so many people can have their natural instincts overridden with training. These natural responses are deeply ingrained in our DNA and the structure of our brains. It has been relatively recent on biological timescales that these instincts have started to become dangerous in some situations, rather than saving us from getting killed in a hunter gatherer tribes. We virtually all still carry these animalistic instincts - it shouldn't be surprising to us that some people aren't able to override them. And every airline and pilot needs to be aware of this.
RIP the 21 People who died on flight 200.🙏
So much for CRM (crew resource management). He did not listen to the first officer to go around and people had to die. Arrogance has no place in the cockpit.
This was my first question. I’m not where even remotely a pilot but I have flown in planes - so I’ve heard of a go-around. Why didn’t the pilot do this?
@@sandybruce9092 hubris
@@tonmarinaxxzz Ah, yes!!! Of course!!!!
Haven't checked in with your channel in awhile (always stayed subscribed), the audio quality and your script reading are much improved!! Keep up the good work 👍👍
The 21 killed were all due to the fire. 119 survived. Airport fire crew first had trouble getting to the plane in the bermed, flooded paddy. Then other incoming vehicles damaged their hoses. Local fire trucks took 45 min to arrive.
Hi Captain MACI. Congratulations on getting 200K subscribers!
It'd be awesome to see a live stream where you fly the TU-144 from OMA to TGZ.
Have an outstanding day.
Much better with the loudness this time :)
Also, wow, that approach was incredibly unstable, what a case of get-there-itis. It's quite literally insane. No go-around despite call? That's just not captain-worthy.
Agreed. The last video was far too quiet, I could barely hear it and had to turn the volume up to nearly full volume
rather crash-it-itis!
If you are high on path always ask for extra track miles. ATC will never say no.
Such a pity losing your life because of someone's stubbornness.
RIP to everyone onboard.
"The first officer had not gotten the necessary simulator training to go around": come on! So airline pilots know only what they have done on a simulator? So how is it possible that aircrafts could fly before the simulators era? This simulator story in this accident is not a plausible answer from my perspective. What I mean is that a first officer is a pilot, not a flight attendant, and whatever was in this case his simulator training, this copilot was obviously able to perform a go around. But we might consider that he perhaps didn't dare to do so for cultural reasons already seen in some countries especially in Asia and this is another story ... Just my opinion.
later in 2009 the captain of garuda 200 was sentenced 2 years in prison and there rumors that he was also fired from garuda (im not sure about this)
wow. that makes it even crazier that a pilot would be so reckless: He could get prison time if his recklessness causes a crash, but the idiot did it anyway. Prison time is something that probably wouldn't happen in the US (but are there any US pilots that are this reckless?).
You are only telling half of the post crash story about the captain. His conviction was later overturned.
From Wikipedia :
On 4 February 2008, captain Komar was arrested and charged with six counts of manslaughter.[17][18] The charge carried a penalty up to life imprisonment if the court found the crash was deliberate. Short of that finding, the lesser charge of negligent flying causing death carries a maximum sentence of seven years.[19] The first officer testified that he had told the captain to go around because of excessive speed, and that he then had blacked out due to the severe buffeting.[20] On 6 April 2009, the captain was found guilty of negligence and sentenced to two years of imprisonment.[21] The captain's lawyers stated their intention to appeal on the basis that the Convention on International Civil Aviation, to which Indonesia is a party, stipulates that aviation accident investigation reports cannot be used to ascribe blame, but only to determine cause.[22] The Garuda Pilots Association and Indonesian Pilots Federation threatened to strike in protest against the conviction.[23] On 29 September 2009 the Indonesian High Court overturned the conviction,[24] finding that the prosecutors had failed to prove that the pilot was "officially and convincingly guilty of a crime".[25] This case was later cited in a report published by the American Bar Association, in a defence of the principle that airline safety is undermined by such prosecutions because the threat of them taking place would impede the investigative processes.[25]
Holy heck. What a flight student is this captatin? You could land like this in Microsoft flight simulator but not in reality.
Yet another well presented and explained video by Mini Air Crash Investigations - thanks. The Captain had what is called 'Get-There-Itis' - which in combination with a poorly trained 1st Officer, and a poor airline, was a recipe for disaster. If I were thinking of flying anywhere, I'd opt for British Airways, which has a better pilot training program than most airlines, and which is also fairly rigorous at the maintanence of their aircraft.
It is also called "red mist". And that is why there have to be defined minimums.
Absolutely, people always question why I'll pay more for British Airways, but it's their solid culture of pilot training and maintenance. I'd rather spend extra and lower my risk of death.
@@KingMoronProductions Well said.
British Airways doesn't fly Internal routes in other countries, so that was not an option.
Great video! Thank you. 😁
Another excellent episode Sir, keep em coming I'll be watching 👀🙏😢✈️❣️
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A minor point; there’s nothing unusual about flying an ILS when cleared for the visual. Unless the ILS is turned off on the ground or NOTAMed inop pilots will usually use it for guidance even in visual conditions.
I came to the comments to check if anyone commented on this. You should always use an underlying approach if it's available
Ah, "get on the ground" syndrome strikes again.
Great video!
"couldn't extend flaps as that would damage the plane" Same can be said of landing too fast and too long and coming to a stop in a rice paddy and bursting into flames. RIP to the passengers who didn't survive.
Garuda Indonesia has always been an airline with a sketchy safety record.
If I can fly with someone else I will pay a little more for safety.
Tbh they did a good job on changing the safety culture, this is their last fatal accident and I hope it stays that way. EU and US authorities have also gave them the green light to operate flights to respective regions. The only incompetent people in the company nowadays are the executives because it’s government owned.
Unironicly Garuda has the best safety reputation for Indonesian domestic flights... Figure out why
they need to use bubblejet printed safety record
Now, now, when you had a choice of Adam Air and Lion in the mid 00's, this was the lesser of all evils. If you wanted to travel by Rail across Java during that same period, you'll be better off rolling a dice too.
@@Titot182 I was under the mistaken impression Indonesia's airline industry had a bad safety record but they rank 9th behind the US, Russia, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, UK, France & Mexico (respectively) so I don't mind sharing this because I was ignorant. They're doing better than some of the last countries I'd have ever thought would be in the top 8. 😊✈
what is with reckless pilots? how can someone so reckless make it all the way up to a captain position in an airline? Pretty damning, not only for the reckless pilot, but especially for the airline, that they promoted this reckless guy to captain.
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This: the first word of every mini air crash investigation episode.
I appreciate how you always show a safe landing at the end of your videos. Why did you fly the opposite approach here? You "safe" landed on 27 when the crash was on 9. Just curious.
Great work and keep it up!
I have flown into Yogyakarta airport many times and I remember this incident well. It is a particularly short runway - the last place you would want to land too far down. This pilot was negligent to the point of extreme idiocy.
I was yelling at him to go around from the point where he pushed the nose down to drop 4,000 feet.
All pilots should be required to binge watch MACI as part of their commercial certification.
You do a great job! I love your channel. Keep it up!!
Thank you.
I have now watched a good number of your videos and I've noticed a couple of things. First, if I ever go to Indonesia, I'm flying a major airline in and to get to Bali, I'll take a boat-I'm a good swimmer if anything goes wrong with that ! Second, pilots seem to hate go-arounds and I have no idea why! I mean it is such a small thing and the consequences of NOT doing it can be life ending. Why do pilots seem to dislike go-arounds or have I just gotten ahold of a batch where it seems that way.
It really does seem absurd that the captain would continue with the landing, did he not even realise how fast he was going? Why not extend the speedbrakes as well?
I'm saying!
This is the LockPicking Lawyer...
There is a way for a plane to lose altitude fast without gaining airspeed but it is not an authorized procedure in airlines called a forward slip using the opposite rudder and aileron and making a lot of drag. In small planes, no big deal and kind of fun and normal for planes with no flaps but can be uncomfortable for passengers. I was once jump seating in a B737 and on decent the FO was flying and gave everybody whiplash especially those in the rear. The capt asked what are you doing? FO says, "A little high cap, just slipping her in." Cap asked if training the dept teaching it now and the FO goes yea. The capt checked and it was not.
FO?
@@K1OIK FO = First Officer
For sure that pilot was out of his mind !
An experienced capitain would not make such a chain of primary erros !
I need to say something about your video production. Please take this as a constructive criticism, because I love your videos otherwise. Your sound levels are all over the place from one video to the next. You're always below average volume compared to most RUclips videos; but compare this video to the one you link at the end. The linked video is (by my estimation) 25% lower than this one. Sometimes I cannot hear you at max volume without earphones. Others I'll have you at 75% while I typically keep my volume ~50%.
Been jumping out of planes lately? Been visited by FBI lately? Dan Cooper? I bet you get that a lot.
I flew into Vegas once where the pilot told us he was going to make a deep descent. My friend was asleep and did not hear. The dent started and was making a sound like a nose dive in a movie. My friend woke up in panic mode thinking we were going to crash.
i will not argue that this was a terrible accident, but it bothers me that only fatal accidents are covered when it comes to indonesia.
i have seen no channel discussing the miracle landing of GA421 in the bengawan solo, but everyone talks about sully (sully is amazing, don't get me wrong).
And one accident like this does not represent the entire airlines, let alone the entire country.
Indonesia has extreme climate and crazy small airports with high terrain. It takes a lot of skill to fly here.
The airline industry here has come a long way, but human error will always be there but NOT ONLY in Indonesia, it happens in the whole world, only when something happens here it is reported literally EVERYWHERE
Before the end of the video I was going to ask why copilot can't take over and fly the thing... But then you said he didn't have the flight simulator experience... Why was he on this plane then.....
Because Indonesia.
Mostly true! On a visual approach you don't have to tell ATC you're following an in instrument approach course/path. Also you're not required to be fully configured by the FAF. Different companies have different policies though. IE it's not uncommon at major airports to get a 170 kt speed assignment TO the FAF which in the 737 is about F10 and gear up.
Go around.
The captain should have done a go-around.
I am not sure, but I think Morgan Melish, a really respected, well liked Australian journalist was on this flight. Sad loss to all lost souls and their families 🙏
Dude, you pronounced Jogjakarta wrong, it's supposed to be Jogjakarta with the J, not Y. If using Y, say Yogyakarta. But the video is still good overall.
*both J or both Y depending from your choice
Kind of makes one think twice. About being a passenger. Don't it !?
The max air speed below 10’000 250 knots unless ATC Approval we often request 280 knots on climb out but that speed on approach is unheard of on civilian aircraft he should have gone round
He should have barrel rolled, great way to lose some energy on an approach, with an RC airplane....
yeah, like Tex Johnson! ruclips.net/video/92IFliJV2kM/видео.html
Do you even know what a barrel roll is? Stupid remark
I dont get the issue that how i land conventional aircraft in msfs
When the pilot was at triple the height he needed to be at for landing, he should have called a go-around. Even if he managed to quickly lose altitude, he'd likely gain so much speed in the process that he still wouldn't be able to land safely.
FO: GO AROUND CAPT, GO AROUND!! CAPTAIN: NO. WE CAN MAKE IT
I’ve watched quite a few of these videos and it seems to me that there are way too many accidents in certain countries!
Him bouncing off the runway was his last chance to set things right and go around. Fighting to stay on the runway is what got people killed. If I were the first officer, I would have disengaged his yoke and flew the plane myself after the first bounce. We don't need arrogance on airplanes, we need skilled pilots. Clearly this guy refused to accept the fact that he'd have to go around. Failed one of the most basic steps in aviation, do not force an aircraft onto a runway.
no arrogance as usual I did my flight training with theses DH
One of the direct consequences of having watched your videos almost since you began is to compile a list of foreign carriers to AVOID at all costs!😔👍
You say that the co-pilot did not take the controls because he was unqualified to do so? Then what was he doing in the co-pilot's seat?
Given that the pilot refused to go around when a crash was the inevitable result of continuing to try to land, I would argue that the pilot wasn't qualified to be at the controls either.
This crash was the direct result of a failure in training.
As emphasized so many times before, the safety culture of Indonesia's aviation industry was substantially lacking. "Ryanair hard landings??? Hold my beer". My late uncle was a GA senior captain on 747-200s in the 90s and by god, some of the cavalier attitude exercised by some of the flight crew made you think twice. Woe betide getting in the way of a head-strong, belligerently determined Javanese man in charge! Notwithstanding their procedural failures, there's also a lot of hierarchichal status in the far east, which, irrespective of the FO's qualifications (or lack thereof), challenging your PIC would have been quite a brave thing to do.
Fortunately for Indonesia, we've got other brilliant examples of aviation ineptitude around about a similar time that spurred on the shift in safety culture. But yes, when the modern day benchmark for air safety in Indonesia is Garuda, that's saying something. That being said, I'd rather fly Garuda than Emirates if I were to see my folks. Emirates crews on 777s are a near miss itching to happen.
Also, the runway at Aji Sucipto is horrendously bumpy with a nice kink about 2/3rd of the way down RWY 09. Always fun when you're hauling ass on full reversers and you're hoping you don't see the TNI AU hangar fly past at speed!
I think being a first officer is a dangerous job. Knowing your Captain is putting the flight in danger but not being able to do anything about it must feel helpless and terrifying. The airline should have made she he could do this as well. Suppose the Captain collapsed and the first officer is trying to do this for the first time?
How many crashes could be avoided by the pilots aborting a landing and doing a go-around?
What's the point of having two pilots if one of them isn't qualified to fly?
Is this pilot error?
Who put the pilot in that seat?
Pretty messed up to hypnotize a pilot
(I havent watched it fully yet but occurding to the title this is what i think)
What was the hypnotist thinking??🙄
Maybe the captain had to take a dump.
Why didn't they just go around?
Why didn’t the first officer take over the aircraft before landing 🤔
Soon the pilot will not be necessary.
Nice flying tex WTAF !!!
This sound very much like the the Pakistan Airlines A320 crash a few years back.
Seems like a serious criminal offense to me, but I also know that he was pressured to do that by the airline. Still, he should have known better and gone around anyway.
How is it even possible for an airline to allow an untrained first officer to be a member of the flight crew? That's insane! This was a tragedy waiting to happen. I suppose the fastest way to the ground would be straight down. What's even worse it that the madman flying survived the crash. He was tried for manslaughter even though he intentionally acted with such recklessness resulting in 21 deaths. Incredibly, his sentence to a paltry 2 years in jail was overturned by the Indonesian high court. The airline should be banned from flying to any destination outside of Indonesia.
Never fly this or any other airline out of there.
Ok here's just a suggestion. I'm not the sharpest tool in the box. 1. Make the runways twice as long. 2. At the end of the runways make like a similar runaway truck section (deep sand etc) to help slow the plane down to a stop.
Unnecessary, any decent pilot wont overshoot runway. I really mean it. These halfwit "pilots" shouldnt be in the cockpit in the first place. And whoever in the executive position that approve the incentives on pilot who save fuel shouldnt be managing in the first place.
Here's some information to you. First of all, this accident were happened in Yogyakarta Adisucipto International Airport (YOG). And the airport itself is unsettlingly located very close to the city center at one end (you even can say hi to Sultan of Yogyakarta while landing in there) and hills contained a lot of archeological sites dated since 10th century at another end, so any plans to expand it were immidiately shelved since its become unrealistic in the first place. This also the reason the main airport of the city now relocated almost 120 kilometers away to the shoreline at Yogyakarta International Airport (YIA) while Adisucipto Airport were now mostly operated only as military airbase, mainly for the Airforce cadets that still underwent training programmes.
That's the type of mistake you make when its your first time playing MSFS.
i've never been this early but ill say what everyone's thinking "if he couldn't fly the plane why was he the officer of the plane"
Because SE Asian airlines have sketchy AF hiring practices. Especially back during the mid 2000s
Stubborn "Captain" killed himself and others...
Anyone explain to me what Garuda roughly translates to? I've come across it on a number of things, mostly the airline an various computer things, and I'm never quite sure what it essentially translates to
Garuda. God of Strength and Vigilance.
It's originally a Sanskrit word - it refers to the king of birds who also provides a chariot (vahana) for Vishnu.
I asked my Javanese mother and she very helpfully said ‘it’s an airline you fucking idiot’
Garuda is mythological bird came from both Hinduism and Buddha.
Yeah, this is sounds like India, but not, It's Indonesia. They have been on Hinduism and Buddha era and their language melted to Malayan (and we got Indonesian Language)
Garuda is a god. King of the birds. Google it... 😂
wont be surprised if the pilot was under the influence
I disagree. No human being needs any training to react to death speeding FAST at them. You take immediate contorls, bring the plane down safely, and quickly report the pilot as to make sure that nobody is killed in the next leg. What could the FO possibly fear of that came second to his own death? I hope that every FO who watches this mentally prepares for a scenario where they might have to take controls from their captain, beyond physical incapacitation reasons.
garuda flight 421
Trust me guys, now SE Asia's and especially Indonesia's aviation industry a lot safer compared to 10 years ago. We're progressing. And if you too afraid to fly with local airlines, you can fly with any other world class airlines to come over here.
Of course, as we have see two years ago with a similar CRASH!
@@kommando-zx8ll The Sriwijaya one? Yeah even I'm not surprised about that crash. One of the worst airlines atm.
@@kommando-zx8llSriwijaya crash were very sad tragedy but it does not cover the fact that Indonesian aviation industry has become 100x safer than 20 years ago. If you compared the number of flights criss-crossing the skies over US per month with the number of serious accidents/crashes per month, the number of serious accidents/crashes in Indonesia is decently low per total flights per month for Asia's standard. Try harder mate, try harder
The captain was on drugs
Maverick pilots seen this in real life
was the captain yelling allah akbar during this?
The pilot is a person, not an inanimate object, so to be grammatically correct the title of this video should be "The hypnotised captain who crashed his plane". Good video notwithstanding this.
I mean for decades using “that” in this case been widely accepted. It’s definitely not worth leaving a comment
It is so colloquially acceptable that pointing it out is bordering on egotistical behavior.
The jury is well and truly out on this one, and arguing like a pair of honey badgers in a sack.
All 3 forms: that, who, and whom are acceptable, the *only* issue is what sounds best to each individual.
It's purely subjective.
As an aside, hope that airlines soon get rid of these dumb measurements - 240 knots, then 3500 feet per minute... no surprise pilots get confused...
They covered this on Mayday Air disaster. You have SOOOOOOO MUCH WRONG!!
A good reminder again for me to not visit South East Asia.....Way too many accidents/incidents happen there......Far too often.
That's selection bias. The only stories you hear about aviation in SE Asia are the accidents.
@@AdrianColley I wonder why?
At least we aren't try to keep racism like East Asia or IDK
West?
Because Indonesia.
a general rule of thumb: try to refrain from using any Indonesian airliners, particularly the low cost ones
Indonesia has one of the worst aviation safety record in the world
Try harder mate. Try harder. You were living under coconut shell neglecting a fact that things has changed dramatically since early 00's.
@@ignatiusryd2031 No U
im an indonesian myself, have u even read the final report for the cause of the crash of Sriwijaya Air Flight 182? many professional pilots agreed that it showed Indonesia's poor enforcement of proper training and airmanship. U should try harder to deflect things and deny them. Face the fact: we do have one of the worst aviation safety records
@@chootanf If Indonesia today had one of worst aviation safety standards in the world then i wonder why EU already allows Garuda Indonesia and some other airlines from Indonesia to going back to fly on Euroepan skies?? Something does not right in your sense since you were lamenting too deep to the flaws from 20 years ago without ever acknowledge any milestones gained from the reforms in Indonesia's aviation industry in this last 20 years. Try harder.
@@chootanf Besides, its so funny you tried to put all the blame to your own country because according to your flawed logic it would means Indonesia would just shut their mouth singing kumbalaya accepting the accusations from Boeing that were accusing the airlines and regulators did not giving enough tranings for the pilot after the infamous MCAS sensor sent Lion Air down directly to the mud on Jakarta Bay, that even after its been proved that Boeing never told the pilots about the existence of MCAS and how to deal with that faulty sensor in the first place.
@@ignatiusryd2031 oh you mean the fact that EU had just lifted the ban on 2018? which was pretty recent (5 years ago)? have u actually read the report on the crash of Flight 182 and the fact that the government didnt implement UPRT programme for its national standard? Be glad that EASA decided not to discuss that matter because we were literally THAT CLOSE of being banned again
Have u even analyse the statistics? Other than Russia, we were among the few countries in the world with a major plane crash, at least once every two year
PLEASE SPEAK UP, THANKS.
did the pilot also not make it? He better didn't make it, otherwise it would be highly unfair
In today era when we have self-drivig cars or trains, why there are no self-flying airplanes? The autopilot should always be the one flying while the human pilot should be there only as insurance for the case autopilot fails.
Self-flying planes have not worked out that well, they so far have a much worse record than pilots. Unless there are some huge technological breakthroughs in the future, that's very unlikely.
We don’t actually have self-driving cars or trains either. The best automobile driver assist systems are still decades behind current autopilot technology.
Planes that can take off, fly and land fully automated have been around for decades. The problem is you always need human pilots just in case something goes wrong, but then those humans need to pay attention 100% of the time so they are always ready to take over when something goes wrong. And the best and only way to have them pay attention to what’s happening with the control and status of the plane, is to give them the job of flying it! This is the same problem that exists with self driving cars. And this is not going to go away until the automation is so perfect that errors basically never happen.
There's an old joke that modern airliners can be operated by one human and one dog. The dog is trained to bite if the human touches the controls. The human is trained to feed the dog.
But seriously, autopilots very often encounter confusing or erroneous sensor readings, and they either give up (e.g. AF447) or do something dangerous (e.g. MH124). We'll be stuck with oversight by expensively-trained humans (and possibly dogs) for a while longer.
Yet another first officer that would rather die/kill hundreds of people, that risk getting shouted at by the captain by taking over control.
the captain was found guilty of negligence and sentenced to two years of imprisonment , capt Marwoto Komar
Every time i see an annoying "subscribe" and "turn on notifications" i set notifications to "none" and sometimes unsubscribe. More people should do like that.
If I'm subscribed to the channel then I don't care...but it's a bit annoying when it's an unknown (to me) channel. 😅 I'm really used to the outro of the videos here!
I don’t really mind it, and I understand that channel owners need to get more subscribers and more likes to get more income.
Would've been nice to know the ultimate consequences? Is this guy still flying? What happened to garuda air? Things any better now?
Since that accident Garuda Indonesia has underwent serious overhauls here and there which already makes many European Flag Carrier cringe. Its already on a better shape compared with 20 years ago but unforunately, last year, some of its high rank managers were thrown to prison after getting caught red handed by anti-corruption team recieving bribes from Boeing when purchasing new planes.
I don't know what to say other than , zero airmanship displayed . Pathetic.
Question For Anyone....Can a Cockpit Crew Fly 1 of These Huge Commercial Planes From New York to Cali at Night "Manually"?....This Possible?
A fully manual flight is technically possible but it is extremely exhausting for the pilots. Probably pretty dangerous.
Yes, of course it is. New York to Cali is just over 2,500 miles, which is about four hours at a cruise speed of 640 mph. The pilots would have to take turns to avoid fatigue, but it wouldn't be a problem.
@@AdrianColley What Fatigue?...Controls Would be Very Stiff?
@@jackwoods9604 Not fatigue in the sense of anything from physical exertion. It's mental fatigue from the monotony of cruise flying. Flying isn't like driving a car... You're not required to constantly maneuver and change directions. There are major "airways" but they're invisible tracks that most planes just use... and while keeping air traffic conveniently together and thereby trackable, it also allows other pilots to report into ATC when they see suspicious things, like a strangely airplane shaped mess on the ground on fire... for instance.
BUT you're talking about flying manually AT NIGHT, so there's little or no good reference on the ground or out the windows, so the pilots will be flying by instruments... Imagine how long you can sit, staring at a little lighted screen with a series of lines and numbers (the primary attitude indicator) and JUST maintaining speed and direction, while you wait from one way-point to the next, for your next change of that direction... You don't change often, but you do change a little along the way... AND without the auto-pilot doing it, YOU have to sit there and make all the little tiny micro-adjustments to keep your heading number on the lines... I did this for four years on a ship... It's a largely mentally taxing, "chasing the number"... and we would routinely change out watch positions on the hour because of that...
Add to the mix, the Circadian Rythms of humans being day-time creatures primarily, and it's a mild wonder there aren't spates of aircraft raining out of the sky between 11 PM and 3 AM every night or so...
You CAN do it, even with just two people in the cockpit... That doesn't mean anyone SHOULD do it. You'd be surprised just how quickly you can deteriorate just on that little effort of cruising a plane. ;o)