The Pilots That ACCIDENTALLY Landed Their Boeing 737 In A Field | Air Europa Flight 131

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    This is the story of air europa flight 911 on the 28th of october an air europa flight 911 was on a charter flight from katowice in poland to beirut in lebanon, the flight was to go to katowice and then come back and so they had left on the day before, the 27th and on the 28th they were heading back to katowice. Since this was a long flight the plane had three pilots on board with the third pilot taking up the jumpseat in the cockpit. The takeoff from beirut was all but normal and the flight was boring. By the time the 737 was in the bratislava FIR or the flight information region the crew got their first weather report for katowice, it wasnt perfect. Just 400 meters of visibility low clouds. It wasnt good weather but the captain remarked that it would be jyst enough to get the plane on the ground. With the weather on their minds the captain prepped the plane for landing and warsaw ATC let the plane descend down to 10000 feet. Then they were allowed to descend even lower and the captain got some bad news the visibility had deteriorated to 300 meters or just 900 feet, still within the allowable limit but theyd be cutting it pretty close to the edge. As the plane got closer to the runway the pilots got even more weather reports, to which the captain would say “well thats a bit difficult isnt it” yes mr captain it would be a bit difficult. As the plane leveled off at 4000 feet the jet was passing over the KTC VOR or a very important navigational beacon in katowice. The first officer knew that the weather was horrible and so he suggested that they fly the approach by the book so that theyd have a higher margin of error, but the captain wanted to do a straight in approach, which would get the plane on the ground faster and save fuel thus saving the airline money. 6.4 NM from the runway the the 737 was lined up with the runway the plane was configured for landing, the flaps were out the gear was out all that stuff, except for one tiny little thing, the plane was way too high to make a safe landing. For those of you that want the nitty gritty details the deviation was 5.62 dot. But this meant that the pilots would have to lose a lot of altitude very very fast, now the ideal thing to do right now would be to go around and try again but if you've watched this channel for a while then you know that thats not what the pilots did. They made some bad mistakes. The pilots not having the runway in sight asked for the runway lights to be set to maximum brightness. Then for the next 12 seconds the captain and the first officer were both telling each other that they were too high but neither pilot really did anything about it. Then as the pilots changed the autopilot mode the captain urged the first officer to descend he kept saying go downwards, go downwards. But they were having a bit of trouble wrestling the plane to get down to the height that they wanted to get it to, As the autopilot shouted approaching miniums the captain was telling his first officer to quote keep that slope. That approaching minimums call out then changed to a sink rate warning letting the pilots know that they were way too low and that they needed to arrest their descent. But their altitude kept dropping. Then the pilots saw the runway and the captain said insight.Just as the runway came into view the first officer for some reason handed off the plane to the captain by saying your controls, this cockpit was in chaos. The plane as a result was in chaos as well, they were just 50 feet off of the ground and they were descending at about 1200 feet per minute and they were just 50 feet off of the ground, the plane had dropped so much that the runway was no longer right in front of them it was still a few miles out. Then a loud band was heard as the plane started striking stuff on the ground. The captain just said oh my god, the plane then touched down well short of the runway and the throttles were advanced to max power, but the plane thinking that the pilots were trying to takeoff without prepping the plane for takeoff gave them a take off warning. The plane then lifted off again and as soon as it did the pilots got a stick shaker warning letting them know that the plane was close
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  • @MiniAirCrashInvestigation
    @MiniAirCrashInvestigation  Год назад +40

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  • @atzuras
    @atzuras Год назад +162

    -Hey guys your wings are trashed!
    - Birds
    - Your engine cowls are full of holes!
    - Nah the painting is weak
    - You have 3 lamp posts and several antennas stuck on the plane
    - They were already there when we got the plane.

    • @redshirt5126
      @redshirt5126 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/vOZMk-CkR4g/видео.html

    • @thatfeeble-mindedboy
      @thatfeeble-mindedboy Год назад +9

      It’s the Bart Simpson defense. LOL … “Those approach lights tangled up in the landing gear? Those aren’t mine … I don’t know how those got there …this isn’t my plane … regular guy called in sick, and I was called in to cover the flight at the last minute. … they said they had already done the pre-flight… I don’t really work here … the autopilot kept taking over … I was just trying to save fuel, man … is that a crime?? Somebody put something in my coffee … I think some chinese hackers got into the autopilot’s software code … like terrorists, man … it’s not my fault …”

    • @petrairene
      @petrairene Год назад +3

      @@thatfeeble-mindedboy Those light poles attacked us, honest to god, we barely got away with our lives!
      LOL

  • @kenhansew7892
    @kenhansew7892 Год назад +42

    Pilot “Hey, there’s the runway way up ahead!”
    Capt. “Just drive over to it. Save some fuel”

  • @davidp2888
    @davidp2888 Год назад +111

    “Do you think they’ll notice the damage to the plane?”
    “Just don’t say anything.”

    • @anhedonianepiphany5588
      @anhedonianepiphany5588 Год назад +6

      “Don’t ask, don’t tell.” Isn’t that the mantra of aviation safety, or am I thinking of something else?

    • @c.erikwilkinson4218
      @c.erikwilkinson4218 Год назад +10

      And stop calling me Shirley.

    • @John_W
      @John_W Год назад +6

      "it was like that when we got it"

    • @ayub_mohamed
      @ayub_mohamed Год назад +2

      Lol

  • @UrikKane
    @UrikKane Год назад +183

    5:12 Them not telling the ATC reminded me of how I felt like a kid if broke something and didn't wanna tell parents 😄

    • @toddsmith8608
      @toddsmith8608 Год назад +9

      Yeah except there's no one else they can blame for the damage to the plane.

    • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
      @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS Год назад +15

      Like denying they ate all the cookies when there's chocolate all over their face

    • @MA-kr6yv
      @MA-kr6yv Год назад +2

      @@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS that’s figuratively literally what happened 😭😭

    • @maxmackinlay618
      @maxmackinlay618 Год назад +2

      Blame the damage on hailstones

  • @sabbottart
    @sabbottart Год назад +44

    Captain: “Attention all passengers, if you’re going to tell on me, then I won’t let you off this plane”.

    • @8o86
      @8o86 Год назад +1

      you win the internet sir

  • @gracelandone
    @gracelandone Год назад +66

    Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in our ongoing training.
    If any passenger has a can of white spray paint, please visit the cockpit as you deplane.

    • @toddsmith8608
      @toddsmith8608 Год назад +6

      I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability! - Happy Gilmore.

  • @ravismcromarty5600
    @ravismcromarty5600 Год назад +41

    "I just want to tell you both good luck, we're all counting on you."

    • @toddsmith8608
      @toddsmith8608 Год назад +1

      alright boys, let's take some pictures.

    • @ravismcromarty5600
      @ravismcromarty5600 Год назад +2

      @@toddsmith8608 When Kramer hears about this the shit's going to hit the fan!

    • @toddsmith8608
      @toddsmith8608 Год назад +1

      @@ravismcromarty5600 looks like I picked the wrong day to quit ______.

  • @commerce-usa
    @commerce-usa Год назад +219

    It'll just buff out, let's taxi to the gate 🤣. There is a reason this was funny... They lived, nobody was seriously injured and the captain wanted to ignore they landed so short of the runway. The 737 can be an awesome plane. 👍

    • @margarita8442
      @margarita8442 Год назад +7

      planes , trains and automobiles !!!

    • @trekaddict
      @trekaddict Год назад +12

      In the 70s, a high-jacked Lufthansa 737 landed on and started from what was a strip of sand between two runways because those had been blocked by the locals to keep this mess from becoming their problem.

    • @usaturnuranus
      @usaturnuranus Год назад +16

      No doubt! Another amazing 737 story - per the Wikipedia article:
      "TACA Flight 110 was an international scheduled airline flight operated by TACA International, traveling from Belize City to New Orleans. On May 24, 1988, the flight encountered severe thunderstorm activity on its final approach to its destination. As a result, the brand new Boeing 737-300 suffered flameout in both engines while descending through a severe thunderstorm, but the pilots made a successful emergency landing on a grass levee adjacent to NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility, with no one aboard sustaining more than a few minor injuries, and with only minor hail damage to the intact aircraft. Following an on-site engine replacement, the jetliner took off from Saturn Boulevard, a road which had previously been an aircraft runway at Michoud. The aircraft was subsequently repaired and returned to service."
      Serious butt clenching was pretty much the extent of injuries.

    • @MultiJoe11111
      @MultiJoe11111 Год назад +3

      Awesome without a runway only if there are no trees 😇

    • @kdawson020279
      @kdawson020279 Год назад +4

      @@usaturnuranus More impressive is the TACA captain pulled it off with impaired depth perception if memory serves.

  • @alexmiller7721
    @alexmiller7721 Год назад +14

    Captain: I'm getting fed up with this flying thing.
    First Officer: I know. Let's drive a bus instead!

  • @pawelgrott1278
    @pawelgrott1278 Год назад +22

    The plane was carrying Polish soldiers coming back from a peace keeping mission in Lebanon. It was chartered by UN. The accident was kept secret by the authorities here in Poland and elsewhere called 'a minor incident during landing phase'. Never got into any headlines.
    The approach was carried at around 3am, so it was completely dark outside. A minor remark to your visual of the story. Anyway, thanks for bringing it in.

  • @JohnnieHougaardNielsen
    @JohnnieHougaardNielsen Год назад +78

    To me, the surprising thing is not so much that they pressed on with the landing after the first touchdown, but not doing the basic aviate task of being aware of altitude, and ignoring repeated warnings from the airplane about sink rate and "pull up". I'm no pilot, but keeping an eye on altitude and speed should absolutely be a given.

    • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
      @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Год назад +6

      Quite.
      Like yourself, not being a pilot, when I even merely hear during the course of these videos the strident "Terrain! Pull UP! Terrain! Pull UP !" it gives me the heeby jeebies, never mind would that one to experience it in anger while actually flying a jet! It occurs to me that sometimes it may be that pilots can be TOO experienced when the significance of such warnings are lost by being so familiar with them... a sort of aviation "boy who cried wolf"....

    • @822PaPa
      @822PaPa Год назад

      @@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 l

    • @billcallahan9303
      @billcallahan9303 Год назад +1

      Johnnie, you would've made a great pilot. I can tell by your comment you have a wealth of common sense. That's 95% of what makes a great & safe pilot!

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 Год назад +2

      The pilot’s union, Competency is the last thing on their mind. Job security is first, regardless of capability. The industry is a wreck. 100 years from now people will look at this and say we were in the Stone Age

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 Год назад +2

      These are basic flight maneuvers. As a pilot myself, I can see that these guys actually did not know how to fly an airplane manually. What a disgrace. If you want to commit suicide but you want someone else to assist you, go flying on an airline.

  • @andresvillarreal9271
    @andresvillarreal9271 Год назад +32

    This looks a lot like my landings. The difference is, that I play in a simulator on my computer, and have had no training whatsoever. I have not even read the manual of the program.

    • @jack002tuber
      @jack002tuber Год назад +11

      And you never mention it to the ATC in the sim either. 🤣😎😎

  • @Oferb553
    @Oferb553 Год назад +7

    The captain "I think we hit a bird! "
    Accedent investigator: "well, this bird built her nest in a huge tree, I guess ".

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki Год назад +1

      We may have hit a bird... and it may have been an ostrich.

  • @Exodus26.13Pi
    @Exodus26.13Pi Год назад +10

    I was half listening then heard the pilot play off a plane crash basically. It's a slow burn but worth that one moment.
    Commentary ✔️

  • @delstanley1349
    @delstanley1349 Год назад +24

    Pilots used two approaches to landing, blending the old with the novel:
    (1) SRA- The Skip-Rock-Approach (works well on water!) Kids just love bounce planes (just as much as houses)!
    (2) ILS- (if you run out of skips to the landing surface, and can't hopscotch it and frustration sets in then he employed ILS (I'll Land the Sonafabitch) anyway I can. "Hey captain YOU fly it," said the FO! As they say any flight you can walk away from....😁

    • @yowtfputthemaskbackon9202
      @yowtfputthemaskbackon9202 Год назад +1

      a good pilot occasionally has to go around.
      a bad pilot *will* get it on the ground first try.

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 Год назад +50

    I think they elected to stay on the ground because they assumed the damage they were taking rendered the aircraft unflyable.

    • @anhedonianepiphany5588
      @anhedonianepiphany5588 Год назад +14

      Well, that’s a completely reasonable thought, though these weren’t particularly reasonable pilots.

    • @briant7265
      @briant7265 Год назад +4

      Fair thought, but I think they just didn't have the first idea what they were doing.

    • @rolfen
      @rolfen Год назад +1

      That's one good decision.

  • @dd-nj8wu
    @dd-nj8wu Год назад +7

    This was the most humorous episode in a way, hope no one notices a few bumps, it's like a teenager taking a car for a first drive and crashing it then coming home and quietly parking hoping the parents don't notice in the morning

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki Год назад +1

      That will buff out... That's factory error... That thing's _supposed_ to be on fire.

  • @Eric_Hutton.1980
    @Eric_Hutton.1980 Год назад +110

    They broke the airplane, and airport equipment. Yeah. I think someone will notice that. I also suspect that these pilots were swiftly out of a job in the airline industry.

    • @DaveJOHAZ
      @DaveJOHAZ Год назад +14

      I certainly hope they both lost their jobs and licenses!

    • @toddsmith8608
      @toddsmith8608 Год назад +19

      @Eric Hutton, they didn't break it, they were just testing its durability.

    • @patriciaramsey5294
      @patriciaramsey5294 Год назад

      I would hope they got the asses kicked!

    • @brucevrooman6107
      @brucevrooman6107 Год назад +7

      They were just hired by United without an interview, yesterday, with several other offers at the same time. And at 3x the salary. Hard to get pilots now you know................

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 Год назад +9

      @@brucevrooman6107
      It’ll be fine. They’re bright enough guys. They won’t make the same mistakes twice.

  • @11017545
    @11017545 Год назад +30

    When you touch the ground and likely have broken something, it's reasonable to stay on ground - or check out China Southern CZ3456, they bounced hard on the first landing and did damages to the airframe (which led to ineffective control cable movement), they decided to go around but eventually crashed on their 2nd attempt.

    • @alanngli
      @alanngli Год назад +2

      Would love to see a video about it.

    • @JackieO_LAX
      @JackieO_LAX Год назад

      Whoa! I just looked up that crash and read the translated CVR! That was nuts! The plane broke apart into 3 pieces and caught on fire which killed 1/2 of the people onboard and completely destroyed the plane!

    • @cr10001
      @cr10001 Год назад

      Or PIA 8303 - came in far too fast, with the wheels up (probably because the captain selected 'gear down' above the maximum permissible speed so the aircraft refused), scraped both engines on the runway damaging the fuel pumps - at that stage, with hindsight, they would have been safer staying down, but they went around, engines stopped for lack of fuel and they crashed in a suburb of Karachi.

  • @BullCheatFR
    @BullCheatFR Год назад +2

    "Nobody's gonna know... They're going to know! How would they know?"

  • @blackmusik109
    @blackmusik109 Год назад +3

    FO: Field in sight
    Captain: Continue
    Also captain: WTH. I thought said you had the field in sight
    FO: I never specified which field, just a field

  • @mattwilliams3456
    @mattwilliams3456 Год назад +12

    Well built aircraft and landscaping crew.

  • @markevans2294
    @markevans2294 Год назад +15

    By contrast TACA 110 demonstrates that it is possible to land a B737 "off field". Even without engines

    • @okankyoto
      @okankyoto Год назад +1

      And it was far less damaged too!

    • @Banom7a
      @Banom7a Год назад +1

      @@okankyoto and with an impaired vision, too lol

  • @usaturnuranus
    @usaturnuranus Год назад +14

    Young man, your episodes have improved considerably since your earlier days. Much better these days!

  • @ironlionzion1380
    @ironlionzion1380 Год назад +3

    Reminds me of the Royal Air Maroc pilots who thought that nobody (including the passengers) would notice that they thumped down hard on the sea twice before landing, and excused the heavy damage to the airframe as "bird strike".

  • @rilmar2137
    @rilmar2137 Год назад +17

    Thatnk goodness the area they mowed through was relatively empty. Had it been an airport like EPPO or EPWA, they would have crashed into the city, resulting in many deaths

  • @jacekatalakis8316
    @jacekatalakis8316 Год назад +32

    Now we need one on the Cornfield Bomber and/or the 1989 Belgian MiG-23 crash. I've been to Kortrik, and know exactly where that MiG hit, both are spooky. Makes me wonder, as a side note, how easy/often unpiloted planes land, the Cornfield Bomber, everything lined up perfectly for that plane to land, the forces changed just enough for it to skid to a halt in a field and stay there

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 Год назад +1

      Many planes - especially small general aviation aircraft - are stable; let go of the stick and it’ll go level.
      In WWII, a Me 163 landed on a field. Almost no damage to the plane. The pilot, however, was dead … a tiny bullet hole in the rear of the head.
      So that sometimes happens …

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Год назад +2

      B-24 Liberator, named "Lady be Good," April 1943.
      Crew couldn't find their airfield in North Africa in the middle of the night. They bailed out.
      The plane landed itself, the tail was ripped off in the crash landing but the hull, including cockpit and main wings were intact.
      The crew perished in the Sahara.

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 Год назад

      @@AudieHolland Yep, they overshot the coast on the return and followed the reverse bearing from the radio beacon.
      They "knew" they still were over the sea and decided ditching was worse than jumping as their fuel was close to running out. Unfortunately they were wrong and died. Tragic and sad.
      There are ways to find out which side of the beacon you are on (turn ~90° to the bearing for some minutes and observe the bearing change, also gives you a good idea of the distance). Unfortunately they did not do that.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Год назад

      @@advorak8529 The reason why I did not say, 'if they had stayed in the plane they would have survived' is that noone would bet his life crashing a plane in the darkness.

  • @TheLastPhoen1x
    @TheLastPhoen1x Год назад +10

    Should've told ATC they broke the airstrip equipment, then blamed it on the windshear.

    • @alangarland8571
      @alangarland8571 Год назад +2

      Windshear not really plausible in a situation where the airfield is fogbound.

  • @borisbadaxe9678
    @borisbadaxe9678 Год назад +2

    The pilot was absolutely correct the first time, the weather was "Just enough to get the plane on the ground."

  • @hotsoup1001
    @hotsoup1001 Год назад +5

    Reminds me of the teenage me the first time my dad let me borrow his truck. Thankfully the truck fared much better than the plane in this video.

    • @John_W
      @John_W Год назад +1

      been there

  • @BillsFan2020
    @BillsFan2020 Год назад +23

    Thanks for Always educating us on Crashes that we forget about and Crashes we didn’t know existed or wasn’t featured on Mayday Air Crash Investigation ❤

    • @John_W
      @John_W Год назад +1

      also on incidents that don't result in crashes. we learn so much from those without such bad consequences

  • @cadillacdevile
    @cadillacdevile Год назад +10

    Interesting, As the story went along, I just knew this was going to have something to do with intoxication, but this was just a pure lack of communication and situational awareness. Thank you!

  • @davemckansas4654
    @davemckansas4654 Год назад +29

    I agree with staying on the ground, especially with the TO warning. It's on the ground and nobody is hurt. Why try to take off with what might be a damaged plane? For me the measure is the safety of the passengers and they accomplished that.
    They didn't save any money l, tho.

    • @7ebr830
      @7ebr830 Год назад +2

      Agreed. 🤝

    • @R8andGT3Fan
      @R8andGT3Fan Год назад +1

      That's what I was thinking!

    • @Oferb553
      @Oferb553 Год назад +4

      Agree. After such a large ground impact, it's safer to stay on ground, since you don't know how many airplane parts you ha shaded off.

  • @ederss7
    @ederss7 Год назад +2

    Saved fuel but damaged the plane. Those pilots deserve an award.

  • @alejandromut
    @alejandromut Год назад +7

    Imagine flying on a flight numbered 911…

  • @mattc.310
    @mattc.310 Год назад +10

    Once they were on the ground it was best to stay on the ground with the topography being what it was. Getting back in the air may have caused even more problems. I'll bet some words were exchanged once the airport realized what happened. ATC probably thought that was a pretty short tasi for a 737.

  • @XIIchiron78
    @XIIchiron78 Год назад +14

    I don't think staying on the ground was the worst idea... No guarantee you're anywhere close to airworthy after a "landing" like that...
    The weirder decision is to just keep rolling all the way in while running over lights and antennas, potentially starting a fire, and risking running into a big ditch somewhere out there collapsing the gear.

  • @nowavenyone
    @nowavenyone Год назад +4

    Nice pronunciation of katowice... Some would slaughter it... Great work!

  • @kcnairnair7299
    @kcnairnair7299 Год назад +34

    Hope the captain saved his fuel. And hope that got him in the good books of the Europa. The damage to the plane was inconsequential. And if a few lives were lost, well, that too is not worth the fuel saved. It is good Europa doesn't operate in my country though we have some similar types here too.

  • @hannamiros
    @hannamiros Год назад +6

    Thank you for doing this one, I love it and the vid is great, too. I'm from Poland and this story sounds like the typical russian/polish story 😂

  • @aroopghosh1381
    @aroopghosh1381 Год назад +12

    Wonder what happened to the crew . It's great no one got hurt .

  • @dirtycoffeecupp1321
    @dirtycoffeecupp1321 Год назад +4

    I love your channel and appreciate your knowledge! Have a great day!

  • @XIIchiron78
    @XIIchiron78 Год назад +3

    Sounds like the Captain went straight in hoping that the weather wouldn't get worse quick enough to stop them, more than fuel concerns

  • @robertshepherd8543
    @robertshepherd8543 Год назад +3

    I appreciate your clear language (and analysis). Weather is always a concern. Even with all the advances -- there are limits to instruments, radar, etc.

  • @markwales3630
    @markwales3630 Год назад +5

    I wonder if, in the past, they had failed to follow procedures and nothing bad had happened.
    If so, could it be that they had gotten into the habit of not following procedures, leading to this accident?

  • @patriciamariemitchel
    @patriciamariemitchel Год назад +5

    Why did they stay on the ground? Because, with pilots like these, the air isn't safe.

  • @Aeshr
    @Aeshr Год назад +2

    i have a theory. they knew that the damage was bad. without knowing exactly HOW bad the damage to the aircraft is, they would rather stay grounded than preform a go around and potentially not being able to land safely again.

  • @christopherchilders1049
    @christopherchilders1049 Год назад +2

    Good informative one as usual! I’ve never flown in a plane but threw you and mentor and fell as I’ve been threw hundreds of crashes

  • @BillyAlabama
    @BillyAlabama Год назад

    Another good episode!

  • @bushgreen260
    @bushgreen260 Год назад +14

    *I think they kept it on the ground because they knew the plane was damaged, so they didn't want to go airborne again because then plane may crash because of the damage done to it.*

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 Год назад

    That’s different lol! Great video!

  • @Allan_son
    @Allan_son Год назад +1

    Mini Air explains states quite clearly that they were not supposed to land on that runway with that visibility. The obvious solution was to not land ON the runway. Land somewhere else and taxi over. Innovation is a thing to be admired.

  • @jtveg
    @jtveg Год назад

    Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻

  • @buttersPbutters
    @buttersPbutters Год назад +6

    Not a good idea to attempt a go-around after landing a big jet on an unprepared surface. You could have damage to both engines, the leading edge devices, hydraulic leaks, fuel leaks, pitot tubes, who knows what else. If you try to get that back into the air, you're no longer an airline pilot, you're a test pilot. At that point, what's done is done. Don't make a bad situation worse.

    • @cr10001
      @cr10001 Год назад

      Classic example: PIA 8303. Wheels-up landing on the runway, damaged fuel pumps, went around, engines failed, crashed.

  • @hairsiluet
    @hairsiluet Год назад

    Thank you very much for this video 🙏🏻 🛫 I fly many times with Air Europa. 👋🏻 Greetings from Spain 🇪🇸.

  • @robertdowns9534
    @robertdowns9534 Год назад +6

    My way of thinking would be if we hit something on landing then to take the plane back up might be disastrous upon second touchdown due to possible damage to the landing gear or engines.

    • @cr10001
      @cr10001 Год назад

      Yes. Check out e.g. PIA 8303, damaged the engines (wheels-up landing), went around and crashed when they failed.
      I think as a general rule it's always safer to go around *unless* you've already hit the ground and potentially damaged something significant.

  • @JimDean002
    @JimDean002 Год назад +2

    "been through a combine". I grew up around my uncles wheat farm so I can relate to that comment :-)

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 Год назад +4

    Given the degree of messed-uppedness of the approach, this could have had a brutal ending. So cut the crew a bit of slack

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 Год назад +1

      _cut the crew a bit of slack_
      What?
      The only reason this was not a fireball and a mass grave was sheer luck, nothing else.
      The reason it came to that situation at all was the actions of the crew - nobody and nothing else! Stupid deductions from not flying a standard approach in miserably bad weather to not going around to not watching their instruments to completely ignoring automated warnings.
      The crew should be bladder they were not charged with hundred-plus cases of attempted murder.

  • @briant7265
    @briant7265 Год назад +1

    Three pilots on the flight deck and nobody flying the plane. This wasn't just atrocious CRM. They failed to communicate, failed to plan, and failed to follow basic protocols. They must have known how badly they effed up too, to just pretend nothing happened and hope nobody would notice.

  • @BlueAirways
    @BlueAirways Год назад +1

    Cool Video

  • @derp8575
    @derp8575 Год назад

    Your channel is so good that I turned on bell notifications. Only the best of the best get the bell notifications.

  • @alen.p95
    @alen.p95 Год назад +3

    very interesting channel, I would like, if possible, to make a video about the 1976 Zagreb midair collision between dc9 and trident aircraft

  • @mikemoreno4469
    @mikemoreno4469 Год назад +2

    I think, having already touched down twice and with the take-off-config warning going off, they decided it was safer to keep it on the ground, especially as they could see they had the full length of the runway in front of them.

  • @johannesbols57
    @johannesbols57 Год назад +1

    ATC: hi, guys, good landing? Pilots: sure, ya... see ya. Investigators: WTF happened? Pilots: We pledged to land and our plane stepped on a bee.

  • @Nobilangelo
    @Nobilangelo Год назад +4

    The captain's day-job was mowing grass. He forgot that he wasn't on a lawnmower.

  • @thessalonician
    @thessalonician Год назад +4

    I suspect that the pilots understood obviously that they've touchdown on the field and hence, this would induce some damages to the plane. Perpahs they thought to keep it on the ground due to the damages that the plane has already suffered. Trying to hide though this CRASH incident from the ATC is not only unprofessional but also INSANE!

    • @tom201090
      @tom201090 Год назад

      Confusing I think. I mean I am fairly sure some warning lights may have come on in the tower about some lights being out of action. And anyone seeing the plane is surely going to think 'maybe I should let someone know...?

    • @thessalonician
      @thessalonician Год назад

      @@tom201090 have you seen the damages on this plane? Obviously these were not made from the clouds. Thus, it's obivious that even if no one has seen the lights or the plane rolling out on the ground, this fact by itself would immediately raise questions.

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 Год назад

      Denial is the first stage of grief.

    • @tom201090
      @tom201090 Год назад

      @@thessalonician I was meaning 'confusing that the pilots thought they could get away with it and no one would notice!' I haven't personally seen the plane post accident however so I could be wrong.

  • @JoshuaNicoll
    @JoshuaNicoll Год назад +2

    I thought one crew handing over to the other crew when landing, switching from mostly instrument to mostly visual flying was done since having the same pilot do that can cause confusion and errors, it's actually safer for the other pilot to take over once the runway is in sight.

    • @briant7265
      @briant7265 Год назад

      I think the FO just knew he was going to crash it and hoped maybe the Captain would pull off a miracle.

  • @dawsonje
    @dawsonje Год назад +1

    Flight 911, the most unfortunate flight number ever assigned in the history of commercial aviation

  • @robby206
    @robby206 Год назад +1

    This story is so surreal and yet funny at the same time. One can actually feel that you find it quite funny, too, by the way you are commenting the events 😁

  • @ronnieince4568
    @ronnieince4568 Год назад

    Any landing you can walk away from.is perfect in my view .!!!

  • @augb.b.3522
    @augb.b.3522 Год назад +1

    Hey i would love to see a United 232 video!

  • @Bobrogers99
    @Bobrogers99 Год назад

    This speaks well for the durability of the 737.

  • @gregorylenton8200
    @gregorylenton8200 Год назад

    Just UNBELIEVABLE

  • @robertdickson2319
    @robertdickson2319 Год назад

    Th ultimate "any landing u walk away from..."
    Works for me any time.
    Imagine pilot's mind, sumpn like, "fuck go round, we ona ground Now..."

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Год назад +1

    Love love love your videos and it would unfortunately appear that just because aviation gets incrementally safer, doesn't make it perfectly safe. Methinks you will have material well into the future.....

  • @TonboIV
    @TonboIV Год назад

    2:10 I knew you were going to say "go around" but I really wanted you to say "stomp on the left peddle and turn the yoke to the right", because forward slips are fun.

  • @ahronrichards9611
    @ahronrichards9611 Год назад +1

    Well, it's said that people do crazy things and this is definitely one of them. Glad that everyone walked away, but these pilots playing with people's lives man.

  • @pimacanyon6208
    @pimacanyon6208 Год назад +1

    another great video! thank you.
    Question: Do you know what happened to the pilots? Were they dismissed from their jobs, or required to retake their basic pilot's training or what?

    • @billythekid3234
      @billythekid3234 Год назад

      pina Canyon as I hear it they were hired by united airlines,,,,, OMG!

    • @IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGE
      @IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGE Год назад +1

      They went to the US to drive trucks for Swift

  • @ozonejunky2187
    @ozonejunky2187 Год назад

    Good video, as usual. Audio still too low tho. Needs turning up on all your videos. You're very quiet.

  • @emilysmith6897
    @emilysmith6897 Год назад +1

    Taking off may have been worse. If they suffered critical damage like damage to the wings making them aerodynamically unsuitable for flight (or many other possibilities) going around after they already landed may have been worse.

  • @John_W
    @John_W Год назад +1

    trying to imagine being a passenger on that flight... the airline must have gotten thousands in drycleaning claims

  • @adeleadeje18cheesecake
    @adeleadeje18cheesecake Год назад +3

    Firstly, love all your content and appreciate it. Can I ask why the audio is so low compared to other videos? I always have to increase the volume. Is it a stylistic choice? Does anyone else have the same problem?

  • @jkryanspark
    @jkryanspark Год назад +1

    Most airports don't have what amounts to a 'pre-runway.' If this were, say, LaGuardia, the plane would have been in the bay. In a perfect world, runways would have miles of flat solid land at both ends of their runways to allow for mistakes.

  • @southpakrules
    @southpakrules Год назад +1

    Maybe they were afraid that they sustained catastrophic damage in the fuselage or engines when they touched down and decided not to go around. That's kinda sound.

  • @conorlauren
    @conorlauren Год назад +1

    If my math is correct, they were about 1,500 feet too high while 6 miles out.

  • @RossNixon
    @RossNixon Год назад +1

    It is a pity that the glide slope can by flown through without detecting it. Some tech advancement needed here.

  • @imnotagamer5327
    @imnotagamer5327 Год назад +6

    Maby the reason why the capten on board did not try to recover is because of worries of fuel consumption why else
    Btw

  • @stanislavkostarnov2157
    @stanislavkostarnov2157 Год назад +1

    Actually, there was a story much more like the title to your video implies...
    It happened in the city of Kirov (former Vyatka, a far-northern Soviet mining town)... A plane attempting a non precision approach in thick fog took a neon sign on the edge of a highway for the extended-centerline lights of the runway, resulting in a crash into a muddy snow covered marshland... It seems, that on the flat tundra, being the only plane of the day, he did not expect the airfield to be cleared of recently fallen wet snow (it was summer, so the snow-trucks were unmanned)

  • @jamesgraham6122
    @jamesgraham6122 Год назад +1

    Not what one would consider a stabilized approach. Hopefully, these guys are now flipping burgers, (though I'd be reluctant to eat one), FYI. A 'sink-rate' alert doesn't mean that the aircraft is too low, simply that the rate of descent is too high. As for the minimum weather conditions allowed for the approach, in Europe, the 'minima' has to be met prior to the approach being commenced. However, once the approach has been commenced and the aircraft has passed the 'outer marker' inbound, even if the tower informs us that the weather has deteriorated below minima, the crew are entitled to continue the approach to their published minima and if possible, land or if the runway environment has not become visible, then to execute a missed approach. I hope this helps.. well done and many thanks for posting.

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland Год назад +1

    Just from watching this series and the tv series "Mayday/Aircrash Investigation"
    even I know that trying to catch the glideslope from above never ends well.
    I would not just have this flight crew fired but banned from ever flying an airliner again.
    It's like overconfident/incompetent people thinking, "I may risk it," before jumping into the void.
    But if you're responsible for the lives of dozens or hundreds of people, you should never fly again.

  • @whiplash8277
    @whiplash8277 Год назад +1

    As a non-pilot, if the plane is firmly on the ground and has suffered damage from the messed up landing, the LAST thing I want is to be in that plane and have it go airborne. At least they were on the ground in one piece, and a go around may not have had the same result. The wing's leading edge was damaged, so no guarantee it would fly properly.

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews Год назад

      Imagine that. The uneducated... the entitled... telling everybody else what to do.

    • @cr10001
      @cr10001 Год назад

      Also, no guarantee vital control surfaces or engine parts hadn't been damaged. Going around with e.g. a flap torn off would not be a good thing.

  • @Supdude.
    @Supdude. Год назад

    I'm not sure why you have the wrong flight number in the title, but the right one in the description.

  • @Sifujonrister
    @Sifujonrister Год назад

    I see this kind of thing in many fields of work .

  • @OriginalPineapplesFoster
    @OriginalPineapplesFoster Год назад +1

    Having gone into the comments I'm enjoying the jokes so much I've had to restart the video 3 times.... 🤦‍♀️🍍

  • @BytomGirl
    @BytomGirl Год назад +1

    I know the fields around Katowice, I studied there and lived 7 miles away from it. There are lots of forests in Silesia, not a good place to land :)
    Were they Polish crew? I was flying LOT airline 8 times and with no problems at all so I am a bit surprised.

  • @thatfeeble-mindedboy
    @thatfeeble-mindedboy Год назад

    One more case of a 737’s autopilot pulling the old “I’m sorry, but I’m afraid I can’t let you do that, Dave … would you like for me to sing you a song? …”

  • @peterjackson2666
    @peterjackson2666 Год назад

    Hopefully the airline gave the captain a generous bonus for maximizing fuel efficiency.

  • @Mediamarked
    @Mediamarked 10 месяцев назад

    In the moment, the pilots freezing is just a human response. As an example, I drove my moped off the side of a steep hill once.
    Drove along at night, nothing to note. Deer, 30m-10ft in front of me. Braking, no way I'd stopped in front of it- steered off to the side. Went off the road, onto the grass, when I just froze up. Had the entire scenario played in my head many times, " just swerve", "jump off when shit goes wrong". Freezing up, I just went down that hill. Didn't do my moped any good, didn't break anything either. Anyway.
    Anyone wants to be the moviestar. The badass. Untill you hit that moment, and then, the scene writers just gone off on lunchbreak, and you are left with your instinct.
    Those pilots froze up, as they saw great harm coming, and rode out their ride. Got lucky, nothing more, nothing less. It's just how humans react to situations like that, there are very few people who can learn to act in a defined manner to these situations- and the lessons learned can still be the wrong ones, depending on the case.
    Glad their actions turned out well.

  • @mattym8
    @mattym8 Год назад

    "5.6 dots" high isn't really a thing. It's referred to as "full deflection" as in the instrument is showing the plane so high that the needle is off the screen. The glideslope is pegged. But it's interesting to me that "5.6 dots" appeared in the report. I wonder why they noted it that way. Nice job on the video.