Understandably the tornado and J-8 and the Kai are “3rd gen” at their core, however the Kai and aforementioned platforms in the variants shown in the video are technically 4th gen platforms. Especially how the J-8F is actually newer than the F-22 so theres also that
imho the maximum br should at least be like 15, all this post ww2 tech takes up roughly the same amount of brs as ww2 tech This post is made in support of decompression
@@subarucar.-584 Gaijin says they can't do that because it would take a lot of time to find a match and of course it will when there aren't many people playing top tier and we have 16vs16 games. 32 players for a match is a lot and it makes top tier an unenjoyable mess. 6vs6 would be the most ideal and it would lower wait times significantly. The game is ready for BR 15 or 16 but Gaijin does what they do best, nothing.
Then just dont play? I know its Kind of a meme in the community to say the game is no fun. In my honest opinion i think war thunder is a game where you can have a lot of fun with . Of course i wont deny all the negative things about the game but its not that bad guys . If you like aircraft its a must try
Hey WarThunder, can we get declassified stealth aircraft (F-117) in game? Top tier is more than capable of countering the stealth advantage, and stealth would be a massive step forward for the game and its community.
Which classification are you using to place the Panavia Tornado in the third generation? Only the PLA has it as a third generation aircraft, and that's alongside the MiG-29, F-14, and Mirage 2K
In case you didn’t know, china ranks fighter jet generations differently from the west. Stealth jets like F22, F35, and J20 is classified as 4th gen, and things like the F15, MiG29, Su27, F16 are 3rd gen. Mig21, J7, J8, Phantom are classified as 2nd gen. So when the PLA says the tornado is 3rd gen, they really mean 4th gen translated to western classification
Kh-66 missiles on the MiG-21PFM are firing incorrectly in online matches since the last major update. I can not reproduce it in test drive, but it happens about every other missile fired in online Ground Realistic Battle matches. The missile will come of the rails extremely high (or sometimes low, but mainly really high), even after leveling the plane and giving it some time. This causes the missile to completely lose range of its (SACLOS) tracking, rendering the MiG almost completely useless in Ground RB.
Forget nerfing anything. When will you fix the fools who bring 1 tank l, no load out, and ruin matches. This game has turned into who has a line up, not necessarily the skill to win. If you have no line up just make a match for them, or make a game mode like air rb where you only get 1 tank and make rewards more.
Dear Sir, gaijin entertainment, I have a question : Or worse do I report an error on a vehicle? Because I found information about the sdkfz 234/2, which is actually a dual-control vehicle, the loader being in fact also the commander and the person at the back of the vehicle being a secondary driver.
As a Japanese tree player, to saying that the F-4EJ KAI having a better radar and deserves to be at 11.7 made us suffer. Most of the time we get killed by others main nations cause they have better missiles while we having a very similar weapon to F-4S. The only reason that make us feels ok with it staying at 11.7 is to add the AAM3. Which they really do in JASDF before they retire it.
why there is no radar option in f4E Phantom as in real life this radar was more advanced I want to get an answer why it does not have full armament and has 2 more tanks suspended on beams under the wings ?
Is the Mirage F1C really useful? According to the spec on WT wiki, it has poor thrust to weight ratio, meaning that it should avoid loosing speed aka manoeuvring at all.
I have played a lot of gen 3s between BR 10.7 and 11.7, but nothing, absolutely nothing, will even come close to the dopamine provided by the F-104S.ASA as it zooms pass the battlefield at M1.5 slamming vulcans here and there.
No one complains about a jet as much as people did when mig 23 mld was released, the forums were crying because this jet smashed everything in its way, no matter what nation.
Hey Gaijin! pls stop giving me uptiers when i use the hunter f58 (I will feed you if you do so and pls release my family that would be the cherry on the top)
Okay so you're acknowledging high altitude fighting and bvr as fights that usually happen....then please make it a thing to happen in game. Multipathing never existed, missiles alongside powerful radars (radars on 4th gen aircraft which so far us modelled to at least had SPD) hit targets more accurately, and even Aim-54's had a sophisticated enough radar in the missile to allow for high probabilities of hitting a target. Please allow bvr to be an actual option, this would in turn favor high altitude fighting like there should be along with some really amazing moments for the players. Please fix this problem Gaijin.
Why do American Phantoms not have AIM9Ls, not just American but other Phantoms at 11.0+. They had them in service in real life HISTORICALLY. You guys praise your cash grabbing game as trying to be as historical as possible right? So do it. All these MIGs21/23s included have all aspect missiles at 11.0 up to 6 how is that fair some even at 10.7. Not to mention the F14A doesn’t even have its AIM 9Ls. You even have pictures in an F14A article taking about AIM9L missiles and how it carried the HISTORICALLY on the War Thunder Wikipage. Yet it doesn’t have it in game and it’s an 11.7. Make it make sense.
This feels like this was suppose to be released a long time ago
nah I think they should have waited for the next update
Right before the mig 23 ml nerf, how fitting
The only reason they would nerf a such such a broken aircraft thats russian, is cos theyre just going to add a more OP version in the update
@@BugattiONE666 LMAO if you struggle fighting against Mig-23 you're just bad.
@@GeneralLudwigSteiner I main britain, i stuggle against takeoff
@@BugattiONE666 Really dont like the british TT too much (even tho Im on 10.0 GF)
@@GeneralLudwigSteiner true
Understandably the tornado and J-8 and the Kai are “3rd gen” at their core, however the Kai and aforementioned platforms in the variants shown in the video are technically 4th gen platforms. Especially how the J-8F is actually newer than the F-22 so theres also that
True, How Gaijin loves to make them countries look so good yet US gets nothing but underpowered everything
@@MARCTOWNUSAme when usa top tier is one of the best
@@MARCTOWNUSA huh?? youre actually just drunk
yeah also the tornado later variants were 4th gen also maybe also the f3
devblog? teaser? trailer?
very likely tomorrow or Friday we will get devblog
gaijin never spoils us (big daddy please🥺)
Nun of the above I think
@@3mgofwtf905 its quite likely to be tomorrow looking at previous first devblog dates.
Remember when you could play vehicles that were playable in both an up-tier and a down-tier?
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This post was made in support of the br decompression gang
This post was made in support of guy supporting br compression gang.
imho the maximum br should at least be like 15, all this post ww2 tech takes up roughly the same amount of brs as ww2 tech
This post is made in support of decompression
@@subarucar.-584 Gaijin says they can't do that because it would take a lot of time to find a match and of course it will when there aren't many people playing top tier and we have 16vs16 games. 32 players for a match is a lot and it makes top tier an unenjoyable mess. 6vs6 would be the most ideal and it would lower wait times significantly.
The game is ready for BR 15 or 16 but Gaijin does what they do best, nothing.
This post was made in support of guy supporting guy supporting br compression gang.
I liked the audio and voice in this video, very soothing and calming
Gaijin can you make a tutorial video to have fun with your game ?
yea they need to you know what happens when your ping and pl increases? The hamsters aren't paid enough to make the servers work..💀
Gaijins tutorial: spend money 😂
Then just dont play?
I know its Kind of a meme in the community to say the game is no fun.
In my honest opinion i think war thunder is a game where you can have a lot of fun with .
Of course i wont deny all the negative things about the game but its not that bad guys .
If you like aircraft its a must try
Spoiler: it involves your wallet
That's the neat part! You don't!
my favourite is the MIG-23MLD
Perhaps "MLG"?
You do know the tornado f3 is 4th gen?
Gaijin personally doesnt consider the Tornado a 4th gen fighter
no all Tornados are 3th gen like all phantoms being 3th even the F4F ICE
Nah, definitely not.
Some M2K are 3 gen
@@jean-philippebobin3732 ? no it is 4th gen
Hey WarThunder, can we get declassified stealth aircraft (F-117) in game? Top tier is more than capable of countering the stealth advantage, and stealth would be a massive step forward for the game and its community.
4:04
yeah that statement will turn into a load of bullshit after the FM nerf makes it a missile boat just like any other soviet jet fighter
Which classification are you using to place the Panavia Tornado in the third generation? Only the PLA has it as a third generation aircraft, and that's alongside the MiG-29, F-14, and Mirage 2K
In case you didn’t know, china ranks fighter jet generations differently from the west. Stealth jets like F22, F35, and J20 is classified as 4th gen, and things like the F15, MiG29, Su27, F16 are 3rd gen. Mig21, J7, J8, Phantom are classified as 2nd gen. So when the PLA says the tornado is 3rd gen, they really mean 4th gen translated to western classification
Why Mirage F1C and not F1CT?
Can you do a video on the 1st gen fighters?
Kh-66 missiles on the MiG-21PFM are firing incorrectly in online matches since the last major update.
I can not reproduce it in test drive, but it happens about every other missile fired in online Ground Realistic Battle matches.
The missile will come of the rails extremely high (or sometimes low, but mainly really high), even after leveling the plane and giving it some time.
This causes the missile to completely lose range of its (SACLOS) tracking, rendering the MiG almost completely useless in Ground RB.
Beautiful. There are so many 3rd gen jets I've loved ever since I was a kid. My favorite era. ❤️🔥
Forget nerfing anything. When will you fix the fools who bring 1 tank l, no load out, and ruin matches. This game has turned into who has a line up, not necessarily the skill to win. If you have no line up just make a match for them, or make a game mode like air rb where you only get 1 tank and make rewards more.
What if they only have one tank in that lineup and are researching the others
Totally this. They shouldn't get matched with people bringing a proper team, one spawn and quitting hampers teams massively.
I cant wait for the Kurnass 2000 to get its aim120's next update, its my favourite version of my favourite 3rd gen aircraft
A response to the fox 3 playtest feedback would be nice.
can you do triathlons again?
Title: best 3rd generation jets
Actual video:4th generation jets included
JA37D has low thrust to weight ratio? What about the Mirage F1C?
The Tornado F3 should come with the Blue Circle radar by default, and only get the actual radar as a researchable upgrade - just like the real one 😅
Dear Sir, gaijin entertainment, I have a question : Or worse do I report an error on a vehicle? Because I found information about the sdkfz 234/2, which is actually a dual-control vehicle, the loader being in fact also the commander and the person at the back of the vehicle being a secondary driver.
Imagine liking your own video
You take your meds yet?
Don't nobody care💁🏻♂️
🌚
Are the devblogs almost done cooking?
Too bad you get fully uptiered so these jets don’t matter. Maybe if all players were in the same generation planes
My favourite 3rd gen fighter? The F-4F ICE, hope we will get it next month...
Not a much of a fan of soviet aircraft but for tird gen i have tò go with the mig 23
Hi Gaijin, can you add the IFV in the English tree on BR:10.0? Unfortunately Warrior is not enough for this BR.
As a Japanese tree player, to saying that the F-4EJ KAI having a better radar and deserves to be at 11.7 made us suffer. Most of the time we get killed by others main nations cause they have better missiles while we having a very similar weapon to F-4S. The only reason that make us feels ok with it staying at 11.7 is to add the AAM3. Which they really do in JASDF before they retire it.
3:52 flying brick with crazy topspeed
Crazy top speed?
Flying brick?
you sure?
wrong on both lmao
@@goldenboy5693 fast but not crazy
Also a brick? Bro never played a MiG-23 lol
why there is no radar option in f4E Phantom as in real life this radar was more advanced I want to get an answer why it does not have full armament and has 2 more tanks suspended on beams under the wings ?
At what point gaijin will grace us with a fix for that cancer that is spawn camping?
why did you remove Prinz Eugen
Is the Mirage F1C really useful? According to the spec on WT wiki, it has poor thrust to weight ratio, meaning that it should avoid loosing speed aka manoeuvring at all.
Give us dev blogs and teaser. 2 weeks behind the usual dev blogs. Let’s go already. I need to know if I’m gonna be excited or disappointed
Actually, most sources count the Tornado as 4th gen.
And the Kfir C7 is an amazing plane but you just can't enjoy it because it tends to break its wings randomly :)
My favorite fighter 3rd generation is panavia tornado
No MiG-21?
It’s 2nd gen
@@DeadSkyWT I didn’t realize that
F-4 Phantom II the best
FGR phantom get aim9L yet?
The Tornado is 4th generation
Nah the best fighters are the missiles i be fighting more than the planes 😂
day 154 of waiting for Polish-Czechoslovakian or Polish-Czechoslovakian-Yugoslavian tech tree or Polish sub tree
Probably the most beautifull airplanes of the game, but my favourite is the TORNADO!! 😎
F-4EJ改 is my favourite out of the lot.
my fevorite is the kfir c7
Preying to the snail for a good match today
This tells me that the USA tech tree has bad 3rd gen fighters.
Very strong third gen fighters IRL, but not ingame, sorry comrade Russia must win
I guess the better ones are F-5E and F4J/S
@@Flashb972 And the only one
Day 7: Asking to add FSR support
Dont say your first.
Your never first
All that's missing now is the F4 ICE
None of them are good because they got powercrept to hell
Last i checked, the tornado is a 4th gen "fighter." Or am i just tripping?
Q: When will u add 4th Gen aircrafts in the game?
J-7E is an absolute beast.
Isnt the Tornado gen 4?
I have played a lot of gen 3s between BR 10.7 and 11.7, but nothing, absolutely nothing, will even come close to the dopamine provided by the F-104S.ASA as it zooms pass the battlefield at M1.5 slamming vulcans here and there.
The F-104 seems to be my favorite for now.
I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again: THE TORNADO DOESNT BELONG IN RANK 8
Tornado is 4th generation, get your facts straight
Also this video should’ve been released last year
No one complains about a jet as much as people did when mig 23 mld was released, the forums were crying because this jet smashed everything in its way, no matter what nation.
Remember when you promised there where no rank V+ premium vehicles? gaijin?
Still waiting for the F4C to have flares
Why the narrator sounds depressed lately. Hope he's okay 😢.
Sounds like AI to me
These are 2nd gen fighters. 3rd gen are F16, Mirage2000, MiG29, etc
When update trailer devblog?????
ground battles??? Its been 10 years since ground units were added and still no ground battles and easy CAS
Tornado 3rd gen? Gaijin are you serious? I think the snail smoked 5 joints to say this nonsense 😄
Add the fa18 already
LMAO TORNADO IN A BEST GEN 3 FIGHTERS
Hey Gaijin! pls stop giving me uptiers when i use the hunter f58 (I will feed you if you do so and pls release my family that would be the cherry on the top)
mig 23 mld definitely not gonna “excel in every combat situation” and “easily outturn your enemies” after the nerf 😂
Where is update
cool and all but could you decompress the battle rating some more, a lot of aircraft are kinda useless
Devblog left the chat
Okay so you're acknowledging high altitude fighting and bvr as fights that usually happen....then please make it a thing to happen in game. Multipathing never existed, missiles alongside powerful radars (radars on 4th gen aircraft which so far us modelled to at least had SPD) hit targets more accurately, and even Aim-54's had a sophisticated enough radar in the missile to allow for high probabilities of hitting a target.
Please allow bvr to be an actual option, this would in turn favor high altitude fighting like there should be along with some really amazing moments for the players. Please fix this problem Gaijin.
Make the sturmtiger available again(day 215)
please fix the spawn camping in tanks
Y’all gonna remake this after the mig 23 nerf
Day 18 of asking gaijin to fix custom battles to where the players br is separate from the ai’s
Question: why doesn't the f5c have a radar?
Bcs they didn't design it to have one
It didn’t have one IRL
@@DeadSkyWT I know.. just why?
@@starisgone probably too small aircraft to fit one in or just to far back in time
@@Flare7639 f5e had a radar
Probably cause of tech
Please add a setting so that we can remove those logs on russian tanks
Delta wing is a disadvantage with out fly-by-wire in A2A. This is the problem with these yt experts.
Tornado is 4th gen...
Bro the mig 23 is just very amazing
Day 19 of asking gaijin to add the KRV Emil
I wish they would
Why do American Phantoms not have AIM9Ls, not just American but other Phantoms at 11.0+. They had them in service in real life HISTORICALLY. You guys praise your cash grabbing game as trying to be as historical as possible right? So do it. All these MIGs21/23s included have all aspect missiles at 11.0 up to 6 how is that fair some even at 10.7. Not to mention the F14A doesn’t even have its AIM 9Ls. You even have pictures in an F14A article taking about AIM9L missiles and how it carried the HISTORICALLY on the War Thunder Wikipage. Yet it doesn’t have it in game and it’s an 11.7. Make it make sense.
PVE SIM MODE PLEASE
DEVBLOG.
In before MIG 23 nerf
Klasic no pay no win game....
Remove repair cost
El mirage F1
2nd?
Edgy pfp
@@starisgonelook at yours
@@TheLittleManic it's peter griffin
@@starisgone What did I do? I was just chillin'
@@AntiFurry174thInfantryRegiment nothing
Just pointing something out
Q: will the F4U-4B night fighter ever be added?
Just drop the update trailer
Nerf 2s38