Ride Shadowban 2023 Snowboard Review vs. Ride Algorhythm and YES Basic Uninc
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0:00 - Intro
1:01- How It Was Tested
1:32 - Summary
2:55 - Sizing
3:22 - Shape/Camber/On Snow Feel
4:31 - Edge Hold
4:53 - Flex Personality
6:05 - Uneven Terrain
6:59 - Speed/Base Glide
7:28 - Turning/Carving
9:11 - Powder
10:31- Switch/Park
11:53 - Conclusion 
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great review been reading your website and videos for years now!
Many thanks!
Hi James! (Or whoever sees this and knows) Shopping for a Shadowban because of your review. Torn between 151 and 154. Me: 5'9" 148 lbs, size 7.5 boots, size M bindings. Not a jibber or trees or heavy park guy. More all-mountain cruising and carving with the occasional side hit/roller/freestyle if feeling frisky. Thanks!
This is James. What make/model/size board do you ride now. What boots n bindings do you have? Also if you want to do this correctly hit me up here so I can help nuch better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow Will do, James. Thanks!
Hey, love watching all your videos and reviews!Thank you, great job!Ride Shadowban seems to be a perfect Board for my rinding style but I need your advice for my size. I'm 6'1, 176 lbs and 10US boots. Looking for an allround one quiver Board.... groomers/trees/pow/sidehits, no park riding.
What size would you recommend, should I take 157cm or better 161?
Many thanks! 161 would be the better call for your specs and not hard to manage at all.
Great reviews! Thank you! Also buying snowboard after 10+ years, i am 155lbs, 5'8, 11US boots. Riding style allmountain fun/carving/smaller park jumps/side hits/pow/one board quiver. Is the Shadowban 155w good choice or would you propose something else? Am i too light for this deck?
Thanks! Yeah the 155w is a great call. So is the YES Greats Uninc 156 and Algorhythm 155w. recommend all three of these a lot. Check the reviews on the site and use the comparison tool.
Thanks for the review. I am definitely keen to pick up this board this season. I am a female rider but I have US men size 11 boot size and weigh 185lbs. It has been suggested that I size down but I am worried about booting out. What size board would you recommend? Thanks
At US Men Size 11 and 185 lbs you would be better with the 160w but that is dependent on your height, make/model/size board you have now, make/model/year boot you have, and how you like it. I think the 155w might be better but that is a touch on the narrow size for you. You also might want to hit me up here for in depth proper advice so I can give you a few options that would fit your specs, ability level, riding style, where you ride etc. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Hi James,
Great job have been watching your reviews for years.
Looking to upgrade my board for next season.
Been riding the older Arbor Element rocker and Clovis for the last 5 years (~20day/yr) switch, no park, small jumps, carvy and playful.
wondering if the Shadowban is not too similar to the Clovis or maybe another board suggestion?
Thanks! If you have the old non-tapered Clovis then yeah the Shadowban would be a good replacement. It would have the same or better directional float when set all the way back and have a more twinish feel when centered than the Clovis. That being said I don't know much about you so if you want real advice hit me up here. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Brother - thank you for the reviews. I have a yes basic uninc paired with Rome Cleavers. On the east cost. The thing has no chill, it’s so stiff. Is this due to my bindings? I’d like to focus on jibbing but not lose my control on ice. Should I change bindings or do I need a whole new setup?
Thanks for the good words. The Basic Uninc isn't an ideal Jib board and the Cleavers aren't ideal for jibbing either. You would be better off with something like the Dicey and Crux or Vice or even the Katana with its softer high back.
Love the reviews, thank you! I’m currently on a 159 Snowtrooper with M Stratas, thinking about Shadowban 157 for a bit of park, side hits and S-M jumps. Occasional powder in the glades too. At 190LBS & 5’10” would the 157 SB, Strata M and 10 Boa Photons be good fit ? Conflicting info about the flex, some rate it soft/mellow while others rate it closer to medium. A lot softer than Algo?
Yes the 157 ore even the 161 would be a good fit and it would be somewhat of a lateral move from the Snowtrooper with the exception of the very different camber profile. Yeah the Algo is a little stiffer and more damp.
Yeah, the rate the shadowban as too soft but it's actually middle flex to a bit stiffer depending on the size, probably comparable to the Jones Mountain Twin (6 or so). At least I have seen two reviews plus went to the store and tested it with a pro there and it's not too soft at all.
@@allanrocha4647 thanks for the feedback. That’s helpful!
Awesome review, I’ve been reading your reviews on your website for years now. Just came across your RUclips.
So I got a question for you, been thinking of getting a new board for this season and the Ride Shadowban has caught my eye. What size of the board would you recommend for me? I’m 150lbs, size 9 boot and 5’5 feet tall.
Many thanks! 151 or 154 depending on your ability level, what you ride now, where you ride etc. Hit me up here if you want to get into more detail so I can give you better advice. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Hi James! Really appreciate all the work you guys do!
I’m stuck between the Algorithm 157 and the Rome national 158. I am 6’1 180 with size 11 boots. I’m a High end intermediate that’s a little on the aggressive side and want something that can charge hard, lay a carve, and boost side hits but still relatively forgiving and butter-able for 30% park laps. They seem really comparable, but how do they compare directly? Especially in terms of forgiveness, flex, speed, edge hold, and pop?
Thank you for the input!!
Many thanks. So first off lets talk sizing. You need a wide so it should be between the Ride 160w and Rome 157w. Both are excellent boards but I think the Ride 160w is a better fit for your specs so best to go with that. It can do everything you want. Now if you want to do a deeper dive and get real in depth advice hit me up here. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Hi! Great videos! I wanted to ask what do you do with the boards afterwards? Can I get one ? I’m just getting into snowboarding and it’s really tough trying to find a deal. Thanks for your time!
@@turtles1974 sorry but we send em back to the brands. We only keep our favorites to use to compare against similar boards we are testing.
Awesome review, thank you! Debating between the Shadowban and k2 passport, intermediate rider, focus on carving mainly (I like the aggressive camber feeling) but also love ollies, small jumps and butters, pow. Do not do much park apart from a box here and there. Current riding Rosignol Jibsaw 155 looking to upgrade and improve my riding. Height 175cm and 170lb (77Kg), boots Vans Aura pro 10 (feet 9.5 though), debating between 154 or 157cm. For bindings thinking of Burton Cartel or Union Strata, but open to other options. Which board and bindings would you recommend?
Thanks in advance!!
Thanks. Passport review coming but both are a little different. Both are not aggressive camber. Of the two the Passport has a little more camber happening. Both are more directional than the Jibsaw but the Passport is more directional with a little taper too. I would not do the 154 Shadowban based on your specs. 157 is a better call for size 10's and your weight is probably a little better for the 157 too. Same goes for the Passport. If you want more of a feel like your Jibsaw but with the ability to set further back in powder the Shadowban is the call. If you want more directional set back and tapered the passport is the call.
Thanks a lot! I will go with the Shadowban 157. I feel both the shadowban and passport will be more stable than the jibsaw and better for carving and pow.
@@thegoodridesnow Size 9 and 180-185 geared-up. I can get a 55W for 300 or a current season's 57 for a little over 400. Is the 55W to wide for my size 9 or I can go for it and save over 100usd?, planning to use it with flows nx2, as my current board and bindings(burton hth and cartels) will leave towards someone else.
(I already brought the nx2s)
as a side note, the hth was/is a nice board but, with too little dampness for my old knees and, especially, too little grip on hard and icy man made snow, as we're getting 90 to 95% of the time in my area. Because of that, I was actually considering a pyl uninc(for !grip! in hard snow)... but, after some extra consideration, that's more of the same type of board with my hth, only wider and probably stiffer. I also wanted a board to chill in the afternoon, which for me, the hth didn't want to do; when I just wanted to easy slow-ish speed relaxed cruising, the hth always threaten me with catching an edge.. so.. a slightly softer, more relaxed board is what I am after, hoping the shadowban is that board.
Hi, another great review, thanks. How does the shadowban compare to the jones mt?
Thanks!.. Good question. The shadowban has more directional float when set all the way back and is more damp at speed. Jones mt has a faster base and more grip in hard snow. Both are great boards
i am riding the neve summer peace maker and proto typetwo and thinking of trying camber.
how do they compare vs the Shadowban and Ride Algorhythm
for all mountain groomers
thanks
Those are two great boards. The Ride's have a more stable feel between the feet and they bend in the tip/tail a little easier. The NS boards you have flex in the middle easier and have more pop in the tip/tail. All 4 are really fun rides and are very forgiving. They just have different personalities.
I see this video and The Good Ride(great website) stresses boot size. Unfortunately I’m a size 12 but weighted for a 155W(Ride Shadowban).
The waist width of my Wide 159 Gnu Hyper is 26.7cm., versus 258mm. of the 155W Shadowban. Certainly under-foot isn’t waist. Is that the reason? Perhaps I’m not too aggressive with the Hyper?
Any thoughts on me managing a 155W with size 12 based on my happiness with my 159W hyper? Or are the foot bases that narrow on the Shadowban in your recollection?
Thanks! What is your weight and height?
Hi. Thanks for the video.
I ride in northern Italy, often hard icy snow unfortunately. No park. Only groomers and piste. Pow when we’re lucky.
Advanced level. Like to charge and carve with speed. Not so much jibbing. Switch 10%.
I’m 5’6” tall, 155 lbs, 8,5 boot size.
Can’t decide amongst Shadowban, Algorythm, yes standard uninc and aviator 2.0.
Any suggestions? Also the board size please.
Thanks a lot.
Yes standard un inc 153 would the best for hard icy snow, it has the most grip. The others are great boards but thats best suited for the conditions you see
Hi guys!Thanks, for so many great reviews all these years!
Please share your thoughts on how close or far away the shadowban is from the berserker.I currently own a K2 Manifest 2020 which I really enjoy…The Manifest suppose to be close to berzerker,thus the question.
Thanks in advance.
Many thanks! Rode all three you are asking about and this is my take. The Shadowban is super far away. The Berzerker is more directional and has a very deep sidecut that always wants to be turning and prefers across the groomer to circle carves. The Shadowban is less directional and has a more balanced sidecut for all types of turns. The Manifest is not close to the Berzerker. It is more like a stiffer damper version of the Shadowban and even Algorhythm with less set back on board. The Berzerker is it's own unique board. Not many other boards turn like that one.
@@thegoodridesnow Want to ask something similar, I currently have a 2020 Ride berserker 163W and would like to get a second board to be more playful and easier at slower moving. Which would you recommend more Shadowban or Algorithm? Are there any other boards you think would be a good alternative to the Berzerker, also looking at the Jones Mountain Twin and Lib Tec Terrain Wreck (just don't like the graphics on this) and maybe a Burton Custom Flying V. Cheers
Shadowban would be a great alternative to the Berzerker. So would the JMT and TW but based on the info you gave me about yourself it's kind of a wild guess. If you want real in depth advice hit me up here so I can learn a lot more about you before making a recommendation.
Thank you for the reply. As mentioned I am riding a Berzerker 163W with Union Flacor bindings and Vans Verse boots. I like this set up but it is very aggressive. I am mostly riding with my wife who is now in her second year of snowboarding so having an aggressive set up is not ideal for riding along side her at a slower pace. I am looking to get a second board to match the bindings/boots for the days I will be going a little slower and more playful. Needs to be a wide board as I have US 12 boots and be able to work in a little bit of powder. If you can recommend something other than the boards already mentioned it would be appreciated. I am drawn to the Shadowban and Jones Twin at the moment but open. Best regards
Great review! Struggling to decide between the Shadownban and the Mercury. I’m 5’8” 145lb size 10 boots. Any thoughts on the differences between these boards, and what size I should be looking to get? Or any other boards you would recommend that are similar to either of these?
Thanks! The Mercury 153 or 155 might be better for your 10's and 145lbs. The Shadowban is a great board and I own one but it just doesn't fit your specs as well in a 154 or 157 as the Mercury. If you want in depth advice hit me up here. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow Sent you a purchase help request, Thanks!
How would the shadow ban compare to the Cardiff Lynx? One has taper but otherwise they seem pretty similar. Are they about the same flex and pop? Both seem like they could handle some resort technical riding and side hit bonanza but does one stand out as being stiffer, more playfully, or anything?
Both are really great all mountain rides. Lynx has a little taper and a touch better float in pow. Also has a little faster base and softer flex. Somehow it's just as damp as the Shadowban. Shadowban is stiffer, has similar pop and rides switch better. Both are very versatile boards that I really liked riding and often recommend. I would go with the one that calls to you more or better fits your specs.
I just ordered a 154cm shadowban. I’m boot size 9.5 US. Do you think I’m good with that size or should I have ordered a wide? Thanks
9.5 is pretty good with a 154 and as long as you aren't really tall or really heavy you should be good.
Hey James! I was in the store and thinking of picking up the Ride Shadowban. It’ll be my first board. My specs are 5’10. 170lbs. Size 10 boot. Any recommendations?
157 is a pretty good fit and thats a great board. If it matches your riding style go for it
Anyone happen to have the board width ranges at the inserts for the 154? Trying to see if I’ll have boot overhang with my size 10s.
I think the 154 with your size 10 boots will be to narrow for boot overhang. I have the 154 with size 8.5 boots and wouldn’t go bigger then that. I’d get the 155W shadowban if I were you. Or the 157 regular.
@@Kaleeb49 Thanks for the insight! I’ll look into the 155W and 157.
Agreed with KB. I just don't see 10's (even with a reduced footprint) working that well. Before I suggest a size, what is your weight and height? Or hit me up here if you want in depth advice. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Loving these reviews! Why did you enjoy more and why? The Shadowban or the Dancehaul?
Thanks. Both are favorites on the site and both are super different from each other. The Dancehaul is a short, wide, tapered directional alternative freeride kind of ride. The Shadow ban is a normal length, normal waist (narrow), all mountain board with no taper and less camber. It really comes down to personal preference. If you want more in depth advice hit me up here. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
I’m looking to get the Shadowban, but not sure what size. I’m 5’8”, 140lb and use this years vans hi-standard pros in size 10. What would you suggest?
You are in between sizes. With 10 boots the 157 is the better call but the 154 is much better for your weight and height. Based on the limited info I have I'd go 154. If you want more in depth advice hit me up here. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Thanks for the review. Just picked up a shadowban that went on sale on their website. For 350, I don't think I would have anything to complain about it. I'm just curious of why they rate this board as a soft flex since it feels like a mid flex board.
Thanks! Not sure why. Feels like a mid flex to me as well.
Do you think the shadowban will go good with the union ultra? And what size board do you recommend for me, I’m a 6’1-6’2 195 lb, and shoe size is 11.5
I’d go 160W
160w is a great call.
Mad review mate! Been tossing up between a shadowban and jones mountain twin. I ride in Australia and occasionally japow for a week or so but mostly harder Australian ice/snow. Love side hits and smashing down cat tracks. Progressing more in the park to bigger jumps and some rails too. I’m 6”1 200-210lbs with US12 boots. What would you recommend for board and board size?
Cheers!
Hard to say based on the info I have. I think the JMT 161w would be better in Australia with its extra edge hold and the Shadowban 160w and possibly even the 164w better in Japow with its better directional float. You might also want to look at the YES Standard 162 or Standard Uninc 162 as they have grip and float. That being said not sure if any of these boards are right for you. If you want to be sure hit me up here shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow cheers!
@@thegoodridesnow out of curiousity would the mountain twin or shadowban be lighter and better for progressing 360s and 540s?
Both are pretty similar for that. Maybe the JMT is a tiny bit better but it's soo close it's hard to say definitively which would be better for that.
@@thegoodridesnow okay thanks I really appreciate it!
If you have to choose between SB 157 and your Greats 154 which one would you buy? Size 10.5US boot. I think you can move one row towards the tip to ride centered on the SB(
Carving, switch riding, more stable, buttering)
For me for a one board quiver? Shadown Ban every time because you can set it back in powder and get really good directional float. If you don't set back your board and ride switch a ton go Greats.
@@thegoodridesnowany toe drag for a 10.5 size on the 157? Can t find any hint online. The waist is 254mm
I would go wider. The Shadowban is a bit on the narrow side so I would keep the 157 10 and under depending on your boot's footprint.
I’m 5’11 185 lbs and wear a size 11 boot I’m looking at the algorithm what do you think of the 155w
I would go the next size up
Where do you see the Mercury at between these? I am currently on the merc and it feels kinda sluggish edge to edge (maybe nimbleness?). Currently on 157cm (257mm width and size 9.5 boots. The shadowban sounds great but I afraid its going to be way softer than the merc. Thoughts?
I think going to a 157 Shadowban would be a much better fit for your 9.5's. Your Mercury is softer and much more chattery/bucky in uneven snow than the Shadowban. Even more so than the Algo and even the YES Basic Uninc is a little stiffer/damper but the least of these three in the comparison. Your mercury does have more pop than the Algo and Shadow but the Merc has less directional float than all three and the Basic Uninc has better pop than the Mercury you have now. Your Merc does have a little faster base though.
Looking to pick up a 2024 Shadowban thanks to your review which according to Ride is the same as the 2023 but with updated graphics. I'm torn between the 155W and the 160W, I'm wearing size 11US Burton Photons, 5ft 10 and 171lbs. I don't really do Park riding but more cruising around the groomers, carves, side hits, butters, some switch and some powder. The 160W I guess is more likely to fit my boot size but the 155W more suits my weight and perhaps a bit more forgiving flexwise. Currently riding a Nidecker Merc 159W with Nidecker Supermatics... Any thoughts ?
Oh man...the one thing that bums me out about the Shadowban is the sizing in Wide. No idea why they spaced it out 5cm between the sizes. Neither size is ideal for your specs. I wish they had a 157w or 158w. The 160w will feel a little big and the 155w will feel a little small. I would say 160w might be a bit better but you could do either with reduced footprint Ions. If pow float is more important 160w and if Buttering/side hits is more important go 155w. If you want to get into detail about finding a board that better fits your specs, ability level, and riding style hit me up here shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks James for the info, decisions decisions... Seeing as I'm already riding a 159W I'll probably go for the 160W with my fingers crossed. I also have the Nidecker Escape 159W which I picked up on sale thinking 'How different can it be from my Nidecker Merc?'. While I can ride the Escape, it is maybe a bit too stiff and generally feels like it is trying to kill me at the slightest mistake which isn't much fun. The Nidecker Merc is much more surfy and has been my first board for the last year since I started boarding.
Yeah full camber with the Escape vs. camber between the bindings to a lot of rocker is a massive difference. You probably would have liked the Thruster better as it has lifted sides that makes it much more forgiving as well as more floaty. I think going Shadowban 160w should work for you then and give you what you wanted from the Mercury but with more directional float when set all the way back and a more damp ride in all conditions. The only thing is the Mercury will have a little more pop but I think overall you will like the Shadowban as a one board quiver replacement to the Merc.
Thanks for the review! Do you know how the shadowban compares to the benchwarmer?
No problem. The Benchwarmer is a true twin with a centered stance and a longer effective edge. The Shadowban is a directional twin with a set back stance for better directional float in pow. You get the Benchwarmer if you don't set your board back in powder and want more of a mountain freestyle ride. You get the Shadowban if you want something that ride centered on groomers like a mountain freestyle board but then set it back and have it act a little bit like a freeride board.
Any advice on the size I should get for the SHADOWBAN? I’m a size 9.5 boot,I’m 5’8,and weigh 130 pounds
154 or 151 depending on what u ride now and how u like it. 154 is better for your height and boot size. 151 better for ur weight. So if you are used to small boards go 151. If not go 154
BTW when sizing a board it's often best to prioritize this way.
#1 Boot Size
#2 Weight
#3 Height
have this board 2024 model have some observations:
nice and damp carving. the nose doesnt really chatter even though its rockered
top sheet is a scratch machine even your binding ratchets will leave marks(paint underneath is white). the edges of the top sheet will lose the black color quite fast from the lift line
stiffer than advertised but it does soften up
slow base that does not hold wax well. my yes standard uninc(same base as regular standard) is a decent amount faster and holds wax over twice as long(same wax done myself same days riding)
pretty good edge hold on east coast ice
will get alot of compliements its quite the looker
great all around board with a few flaws. with all that being said i would easily purchase this board again. very stable and forgiving.
Thanks for your take!
This board has piqued my interest. Trying to figure out what size would be good. Intermediate rider, usually ride 154-155, 9.5 boots, 195lbs --- what size should I go with? Would the waist on the 54 be too small for my boots? Thanks
It's a super fun ride. I would say probably the 157 but what is your height and what was the make/model of boards in the 154-155 size you normally ride?
@@thegoodridesnow 5'7 --- yes greats 154 (2017), Jones mountain twin 154 (2022) , gnu gremlin 155. I like to go off side hits/natural terrain, s/m jumps , butter, charge down every now n then. Would this be a direct replacement to jones twin?
Would a medium size mercury jones or a medium size katana (I have those 2) be better for the 155w if I am size 10 and 146-150 lbs?
I would say the Katana if it is a 2022 model or later. Make sure you adjust it to fit your 10 boots so they are centered in the binding and therefore centered on the board.
@@thegoodridesnow ok cool thanks!
Hey James , thanks so much for your great reviews. I m riding 2017 Jackpot 154cm with 116,5 effective edge 25,1 waist widt . (158 lbs 9.0 Boots 183cm easy rider nothing special cruising the resort a bit buttering tricks ,short tree runs if some fresh snow , some carving ) I decided to buy shadowban but couldnt decide the size as Effective edges of RSB s are bit shorter . Just want to ride as easy as my JP . Would you recommend 154 (EE 114,7 WW 25.1 ) or 157 ( EE 117,2 WW 25,4)
Thanks. Go 157. Much better fit for your specs
Thinking the shadowban but seeing good things on the indoor survival so im torn. I’ve a dancehaul for powder and slush days, so looking for an all mtn ripper hitting side hits and jumping everything I can and park jumps and rails for non off piste days.
Any other recommendations? Thanks for the great work
Hard to say with the info I have but probably the Indoor would be better for that since it's a twin and you have a dancehaul. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Any comparison betweeen Shadowban and Yes Standard Uninc?
Both are great boards. Get the Standard Uninc if you like to carve hard but it's more on the technical side. Get the Shadowban if you want something more forgiving. Both float really well when set all the way back in powder for an all mountain board. Both are great do anything kind of rides.
Hi James,
Do you feel the Shadowban is a heavy board underfoot? Thinking of getting the 2024 model to replace my GNU headspace. Any difference in the 2024 model compared to the 2022/23 that you’re reviewing?
No I don't think so. Nope it's the same board. Just slightly different graphics.
Good review. Looking to add to my quiver.
Would this be ok on east coast icey hard conditions? Currently riding a cold brew 24. Will the edge hold on ice be much worse?
I’m not interested in the algorithm or basic uninc
This and the Algorhythm both grip well but they aren't the first boards I'd reach for on the East Coast. If the Basic Uninc doesn't work for you look at the YES Standard Uninc or Standard or Lib Tech Dynamo or Gnu Banked Country. Or hit me up here if you want real in depth advice. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Thank you !
Hey I am 73 kg boots size 8
The 154 will be ok?
And for quiver of one board that do it all what go for the SB or Jones MT?
Yeah that could work depending on your height. Both are favorites on the site for different reasons. The Shadowban is more damp with more set back on board for powder. The Jones has better grip and a faster base.
@@thegoodridesnow what you would go for ?? And what the different if the stiffness?? I saw Evo rate the shadow an as a soft. Board
What I find interesting, having ridden both the ride boards and bought one - is that my experience is kinda similar but the interpretation is the total opposite of yours. To me, the shadowban is the more damp, relaxed ride whereas the algorythm is the more lively one that carves better and delivers more power. Both are very poppy, the algo naturally takes a bit more loading up, but then of course delivers more in return. But I absolutely found it more lively, less damp. Perhaps because it begs for slighly more power I liked both, could've bought either one. After riding pure camber boards for the last 20, I went with the shadowban. Against my style. As I figured - both are underpowered to what I'm used to, but the shadowban was more relaxed so it was worth it. I love the board and it's my quiver of one for 8/10 days - But I still go back to my stiffer full cambers when I want to feel in control.
Thanks for your take! I wonder if the demo's I rode are a bit different than production. Seems like we both agree the Shadow is easier/more relaxed as well as the Algo takes more work but gives more reward.
May I ask you what's in your quiver? I'm looking to get a directional stiff charger board for carving and going fast. So far I have the Shadowban(soft flex), 23 Doa(mid flex), Old capita stairmaster for jibbing(soft). I was thinking in getting the Ride VSS MTN Pig. Thanks!
So is it not really camber ? More like the salomon huck knife quadratic camber ? I mean having some rocker in tip and tail is pretty much essential for it to be functional as an all.mountain board ...although some people seem to think it's basically a park board ... so confusing what it's supposed to be
@@stevros48 It is.. camber dominated. Little rocker in tail, slightly bigger in the nose. Dunno if that makes it an all mountain board as I've spent most of last two decades on 100% camber boards. I know this one doesn't annoy me as the ones with more rocker do. Didn't enjoy the huck knife for example, that one really felt lacking in the actual riding department even though it was a fun thing to play with.
I don't know what it is supposed to be. I'd say if they were going for jack-of-all-trades all mountain board, they pretty much nailed it. But I'd say that it's definitely more towards the freestyle than freeride, even though it carves like a beast and tolerates speed really well. But in super steep terrain or pipe, I'd ditch the rockers and get something stiffer just to eek out a bit more power. Personally, I pretty much stopped hauling around other boards than the shadow on most days and only break out the super stiff full cambers when on a big mountain trying to break speed records.
@@arlokkkkI bought the mountain pig as my charger, carving freeride board based on James’s review and answers to my questions. The tail seems to be pretty unique and fun, especially for low angle pow.
Great review. I’m 5’6 ~130 pounds, would you recommend the 147cm or the 151cm for the shadowban?
Thanks. What is your boot size? What make, model and size board do you ride now?
@@thegoodridesnow Currently on a 150cm and my boots are 8.5’s
Sorry, and the board is an old Burton Charger.
I think the 151 is a little better based on what you rode and your specs. Cheers!
Hey man, wondering if you could give me your recommendations? I've been riding 4 seasons on a ride Manic and was tossing between a shadowban and the algorythm. My local shop was pushing me towards the algorythm but your making me think the shadowban might be better. Im 6ft, size 13 boots and 96kgs. Was thinking 160W would be better as my Manic is 160 and I struggle with edge control a little in certain conditions. Whats your thoughts? Cheers
Sorry I missed this! So YT sucks for giving advice and it's hard to help here. I would go 164w for 13's and you might still get a little toe/heel drag. I would need to know a lot more about you to properly help. Hit me up here if you want to do this right and find the right board. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Picked up the shadowban. Put some nitro team pros on it. Look forward to going up this friday for its maiden voyage
Good combo. Hope you like it as much as we do.
How’s the setup man, I currently have the same bindings and the beast. I worry that the beast may be a bit much for me and I will have more fun on something a bit more playful but can still charge
I am struggling to find a replacemwnt for my Ride DH 2007, is this way better ?
I want to upgrade but i consider the Borealis Tundra more than the Shadowban. How do they compare ?
If you want a DH in modern form check the Benchwarmer. If you want a mellower ride that sets way back in pow the Shadowban or Tundra could work too. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Hi, how does the compare with Yes the Greats? Bought the Greats at the end of last season and can’t wait to hit the slopes. My friend looking at a Shadowban for this year so interested how they compare please
Two pretty different rides. The Greats is a mid/wide Asym Twin, with a lot of grip, with a centered stance. The Shadowban is a normal width that is a bit more directional and has a setback on sidecut and even more on board. Grip is pretty good with the Shadowban but it's a bit behind the Greats. If you want a one board quiver and you set it back in pow get the Shadowban. If you don't set your board back in pow and like to ride switch a lot then get the Greats.
@@thegoodridesnow thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Have you tried the Evil Twin +? Interested how that compares to the above?
No I haven't. Only the ET and ETA
Wondered the same between The Greats and Shadowban. Seem like everyone’s favorite do-it-all boards.
Great review. Without gear I’m 5’8”, 183-185 lbs, size 10 boot. Leaning towards the Algorithm because I like speed an believe I need a 157.
Can I size down to 154 to have a little speed and keep it playful? Also will it lose stability?
I think 157 is a better call for 10's vs the 154. It's a much better fit for your specs for this model.
Awesome. Thanks for the advice. Other than boot size, would it be okay for me weight wise at 185lbs?
@@HamptonsRealestate Taking smaller for freestyle is fine if you are a parkboii but if you want to ride the mountain at medium speed a 154 vs a 157 makes a big difference for your size and weight, I personally took a shorter board for freestyle and regretted it because I spent 1% of my time in a park and going fast was also my thing but that was reaaaaally shaky ( I took a Ride Agenda 155 instead of 159)
@@cykablyat867 That’s good to know. Thanks for that info. Yea I’m too old for the park lol. I like to carve and go fast too.
Well said!
Thoughts on my right size for all mountain riding? No park but small/medium jumps, butters, turning, trees. I`m 88 kg (195 lbs) / US10 (28MP) / 188 (6`2) and considering the 57, 60w or 61.
161 would be good but it depends on what you are used to now.
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks for the answer. I have several quiver boards, but no real allmountain board, closest would be the Flagship 62w but thats too planky for resort cruising and playing around. Looking for a damp smooth well rounded all mountain ride. Almost all my boards are pretty wide and I like that, but wouldnt mind something quick and nimble either. Wouldn`t want more volume than necessary on this one.
Size 10 boots 510 - 165 pounds 157 normal work fine for me?
Yes the 157 should work. If you like to carve really hard and go fast you might like to 160, but overall the 157 is a great fit for your weight and height
I’m 5’10, weigh 160lbs what size algorhythm should i get? Boot size 10. Have union strata bindings
157 would probably be best for your specs
@@thegoodridesnow would 154 still be okay?
I have similar specs (except 5’8”) and thought 155W would be the most appropriate based on the Good Ride size guide for this board. Why the 157 over 155W?
Should I get a 157 or 154. I’m size 9 foot , 185 pounds, 5’8. Looking to ride half park and half all mountain hitting side hits
The 157 is a better fit for your specs mtn and powder riding. The 154 will be better in the park but feel a little lacking/small on the mtn. What make/model/size do you ride now? Or hit me up here if you want real advice. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Hi guys. Love your reviews and have convinced me to buy a shadowban.
I am 6’ 170lb US10 shoe size (katana M size bindings). Would u recommend the 155w or the 157? Thanks a lot!!
Many thanks. I'd go 161 for your specs. It won't be hard to ride. You can go 157 if you want more control/something easier to turn but it's a pretty easy board to ride. If you want to know for certain hit me up here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow thank you!!
Can’t decide between shadowban and Bataleon Thunderstorm… did you ride the thunderstorm as well? Aside from 3BT, which one would you chose?
I m looking for an all mountain quiver killer which can charge and play around. No park but I like sidekicks, pow rarely but like it
Sorry but haven't ridden the Thunderstorm so hard to comment/compare on a board I haven't tried.
@@thegoodridesnowthanks anyways :-)
Is the Shadowban the kinda board you need to be always ON with? Ie, no skidded turns and lazy days
No. it's mellow. Go to Timecode 3:22 - Shape/Camber/On Snow Feel
@@thegoodridesnow thanks! Appreciate your content. Just got the board for a lil discount so I’ll see how mellow it is next week!
What size shadowban should I go for? US10 boots,176-178lbs
Probably 160 but don't know your height or what you like to ride now so just a guess. Hit me up here if you want to know for sure. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Im a size us 10.5 boot would i get away with the 157 or do i need the 155w ... im about 92kg with all my snow gear on
What is your height? What make, model, size and year board do you have now? How does it fit?
@@thegoodridesnow I have tonnes of boards from a 147 rossi sushi to a nitro 203 cannon ... ride the 153 orca alot and gnu gremlin 155 and the gnu headspace 155 ...I'm 175cm tall so around 5"8
Always great to meet another rider all about snowboard gear polyamory. Based on those boards I would say go 155w. It's not perfect and a little wide but better to be a little wide than a little too narrow. Booting out absolutely sucks.
@@thegoodridesnow yip I'm a gear hoar .... over 20 boards haha and mind expander 158 and tree hunter 161 amd yes greats 154 were on your reccomendation
I'm 5'6" 165lbs and normally ride a 154. Would a 155W work for me?
Boot size?
Hey yalls, I’ve decided to pick up this board but can only find the 2024 version in my size, is it the same or are there some differences?
Same board. You can often find an update on the site like here. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/ride-shadowban-2023-2024-snowboard-review/
@@thegoodridesnow thanks
I am 175 75 kg boots size 8 US
I am between 154-157
But because my boots size 8 it’s better go on the 154??
I think you could easily manage a 157. I think it depends on the board size you are comfortable with now.
Have you tested the Yes Standard Uninc?
Yes review coming very soon! Very recommendable board.
Buying my first snowboard in 10+ years, need some sizing advice for the shadowban. 5'9, 185lbs, 11.5 US boot, would 155w, 160w or 161 work better? Mostly for hitting blues/trees/side hits in icier conditions. Thanks for the review!!
So don't do the 161. Unfortunately you are in between sizes. The 155w will work but it's a little small for your weight and height. The 160w is good for your boot size but you won't be able to ride the board like I described in the vid when I was riding a 157 with size 9 boots, 185lbs and 5'10". So if you want the Shadowban the safe play would be to go 160w. Or hit me up here and I'll throw out a more accurate recommendation if I know more about you. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
So….you’re…saying..I should’ve gotten the Yes for my Midwest icy slopes….AFTer I purchased the Shadowban..
Suppose I should’ve been subscribed sooner. Sounds like the Shadowban runs narrow, too. Even in W?..
Yeah the shadow runs a little narrow. If youd like more in depth advice, fill out the gear advice sheet on our website! We'll get your set up dialed!
Is this Shadowban as catchy as the Indoor Survival? Also is the SB more torsionally flexible? I found it was tough to twist the IS.
Yes the Shadowban is much more forgiving because it has less camber and more rocker but more stiff tortionally. I compared my 156 Indoor Survival to my 157 Shadowban. If you want real advice hit me up here. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/ there are many ahead of you but I get to every one.
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks for the feedback! Might look into the Shadowban. Sounds like a better transition from my old Outerspace Living than the IS does.
Good call.
Like a lot of people I’m torn between sizes, it’s disappointing Ride doesn’t provide any Wide sizes between the 155W and 160W. I’m 6’2 size 12 175lbs, a 157/158W would be perfect!
Yeah really surprised too with the 5cm jump.
Did you end up getting a ride? I’m similar stats and looking at the two
This board can go with step on photon?
Yes
Wise move filling that “average” rider void. I wasted hours of research looking for the “best” board. Eventually I understood I myself wasn’t the best.
Really target that average market. They are the ones who really need help.
Hope you can find a way to get paid for your time/experience.
Thanks! Relatively new to YT but thegoodride.com has been my full time job for 13 years. Check that site out as there is a ton more info there.
When you mention the algorithm is more damp and less poppy, are you sure you’re not meaning to say the Shadowban is? From all other reviewers I see them say the opposite.
So what I was trying to say and I thought I said in the review is the Algorhythm takes more work to make it pop but when you give it more effort it pops more than the Shadowban. The Shadowban is easier to get it to pop for average riders like me and doesn't take as much effort. The Algo I had was more damp though. I felt this from same day testing, same size boards, same boots, same bindings on the same exact runs.
@@thegoodridesnow appreciate the speedy reply, this helps me in my current board finding process, thank you!
Huh? 2021? 2:37
Whoops...2023...
Time traveler
I’m 5’6” 145lb boot size 8.5. I’m thinking I need a 147cm so im ~20lb over the average weight range. Thoughts?
Tough call between weight and boot size. 151 better for your boot size and 147 for your weight. What make/model/size do you ride now?
I was riding a nitro swindle 142cm, fun for a jib board. With the Shadowban I plan on riding most everything other than big booters and most jibs.
Coming from a 142 Swindle I'd probably go 147