I found the atmosphere in div 1 far more unique and special than div 2. Division 2 has your typical post apocalyptic world with nature and vines growing everywhere, and the cracks in the pavement overrun with weeds. Whilst in Division 1 buildings aren't all uninhabitable and overgrown, they still look lived in (at most) and a little less cliche-apocalyptic *COUGH COUGH WoNY NEW YORK*. I agree with what you said about the Christmas decorations because they just add to the spookiness of it all. Think about it, what other games take place in that rarely explored time frame in winter only a few weeks into the virus. Also, in division 2 there are absolutely no living civilians on the streets (aside from gangs), but in Division 1 you still see people looking out of their windows and walking on the street. Hell, it even rewards you with small things for giving them things in return. Back to the buildings, it gave you hope that you could still save the old society before the outbreak + there were quite a few still living civilians.
Hmm I haven't ever played the first one but the second one I was hooked with the first line half hour and ha e been acting off and on when I can past 2 years . I got WONY. Expansion but the snow atotomosphre and still civilians might be a welcomed cha ce of scenery kinda wish they made an update where there were civilians still alive that can hide you from enemies in exchange for food / supplies
I agree. I love the feeling of Division 1 how surreal it all feels. That only weeks prior the world was normal, completely fine. It's amazing how they made a world that was so full of death feel so alive. I was hoping that with WONY they'd bring that feeling of surrealism back but it was a missed opportunity. Division 2 is a great game but the atmosphere of its predecessor is so much better in just about every way. The cold gritty feeling of winter making time seem to slow to a halt in the city that never sleeps. My favorite place in the first game is Dark Zone 9 in the top left corner it's just a pile of bodies stacked higher than the first floor of some of the buildings only then do you realize just how brutal that virus was. I love both games but the atmosphere really sold the first one for me.
Warlords of new York looks fine. This takes place a while after the first division. Things will be overgrown and ruined. And the game gets the vibe right. Next game they should totally do autumn or winter, but summer was epic too....
I'm a 67 year old gramma playing this game. I played Division 1 until 2 came out. I basically play alone or with 1 friend. I really prefer 2. All the things I can do in the open world alone is great. I have a very strong build but prefer to just play on hard alone. I enjoy just killing them easily. When playing with friend, we do a lot of heroic. I love the graphics of both games but enjoy DC mainly. I enjoy the summit. I've played some in dark zones but not as much as in 1. I've never played the raids. But I just enjoy 2 the best. PS one reason for playing this game over other games, the controller has legacy where most games don't. I just cannot function on the others. Everything is backwards for me! Ugh
I'll never forget making my way through the Dark Zone in Div 1 and happening upon the mountain of body bags. Pilled up haphazardly and strewn about heavy machinery. It was honestly a harrowing moment for me. The atmosphere of that final DZ was so eerie. I totally agree in Div 1 having a better atmosphere.
Yeah like how the level design and gadgets in 2 were better than 1, and the snowy New York setting in 1 was definitely better than 2, not saying I hated DC of 2 I loved both the post apocalyptic worlds I just think fighting in those heavy blizzards of New York felt especially intense
I agree division one with the snowy look is great but dc at night is so good and it keeps me on my feet knowing stalker hunters watching all the time idk there both great but div 2 is my favorite
Well, if you're going to talk about Gameplay, the Division Two is better. Not abnormal given the fact it's more recent, has more variety in weapons. As for all the rest, diversity in activities, gearsets, overall fun and setting, I'll take the Division One.
@@doltBmBthey were saying that's a factor as to why the game feels better gameplay wize, which is just how game dev works. More tech to use, more experience. It's gonna feel better in most cases in newer games
My favorite activity from the division 1 was the survival game mode. Didn't care if I ran into other players. I just enjoyed starting with pretty much nothing and trying to survive for as long as possible.
VERY missed opportunity by not including a survival mode for Division 2. It was my favorite mode to play and they could have made it work for Division 2. They could instead have major hurricane force storms during this. Warnings to get to cover as debris would be flying around, and do serious damage or incap you if hit. The temp and rain could be very cold, so this would require you to constantly have to change clothes to avoid hypothermia. Then again, they could have changing weather so you have to worry about it being too humid and hot, having a risk of hyperthermia (basically heat stroke). You would be forced to drink water to stay hydrated during this. Honestly, they could have done this better around the "Warlords of New York" DLC. Having a survival back in New York during the summer would be a different experience, especially with different weather elements. If they do make a Division 3, they BETTER have a survival mode.
No one ever mentions the way you use consumables in the first game compared to the second. Like picking up explosive rounds, incendiary, water for buff etc and using when the right situations calls to use them usually baking em for dark zone, the second game uses em immediately. The supers never get mentioned like super damage mitigation or double damage made for some insane plays in the dark zone. Really hope there's a div 3 that can mix the best parts from both games
I've always been a fan of your work. Ever since I started both games and was hooked with the lore of the division universe, your channel has been my sanctuary. to the point where during my quiet time, I listen to your lore videos similar to a podcast. Your stories have helped me relax and destress. :) And it makes me happy you made something like this. A proper comparison of both games. Respect bro! :)
The one thing I love about the division 2 are the many various builds you can create. As you can seriously specialize into what ever style of build you want to be. For example if you want to be a juggernaut with a m60 you can and still fight off the enemies. If you want to be a sniper with low health but high damage you can. And with either one if played right you can run entire missions on the hardest difficulty along with directives and survive and complete missions.
I’ve only played the second, and I’m a VERY casual Division player. But I find myself wanting to play the 1st so bad just because of that atmosphere. It’s soooo good
I'm a 90% solo player too. The only time I play with others is when I either need help with a control point or someone asks for help. Otherwise, I do everything myself, even though I'm in a casual clan. Currently doing a second run of both trying different loadouts
I dunno if video games should emulate real life. Like, I don't want to worry about paying rent, finding parking, taking care of kids, going to school, getting arrested for shooting up a mall or two, things like that are just too realistic. The fact that I'm a super-soldier running around in a post-apocalyptic universe has let me drop any pretenses that I'm participating in something realistic, especially after firing the 308th shot into an adult man's face, taking him down to 50% health. Seriously, are you for real lil' homie?
@@a_doggo imma be honest, you're an idiot if you think you need to have realistic gameplay mechanics in order to have realistic character personalities
A lot of very upset people commenting on this video 😅 Remember, it's ok to have a different opinion. But RUclips requires me to manage out the hateful / threatening comments - so don't take it so personal 😆
Man…you’ve made some valid points. Yeah the summit we were just glad to have some new content, not realizing the reason why we’re climbing these floors. Other than looking at the floors and highlighting floor 100 and seeing it blur then we knew 😁
What you said about pvp has been more thought for a while. I don't think pvp was an original focus when they made the game, but they did tried to cater and fix it due to the popularity and complaints
For the story part, you missed the ISAC missions from Division 1. They were akin to the season content fron D2 but with higher production values. Its a part I wish they could of kept on doing. Taking Asher down felt good... That a-hole. Great video as always. Keep up the good work
Mr siri , i loved both the division , but i loved the game because of ur analysis of the game . I felt how deep a game narrative could be other than fps shooters like COD and Battlefield franchises. Thankyou. And keep up the good work.
The one thing that always brings me back is the open world. It's so fun walking around and running into groups of enemies. This makes it so I'm always aware of what happens.
So I only started playing The Division earlier this year - think it was a freebie, then I bought The Division 2 on sale. I enjoyed both games - the original definitely felt more difficult than the sequel - that's not to say it's a cakewalk (as I've played TD2 more, I've scaled up the difficulty a bit). Don't get me wrong, running around Washington with a Cuelebre and a (I think it's called the Capacitor? Can't remember) is fun, I did like New York in TD1 slightly more - it felt more in your face, and those traps all over the place really spooked me all the time. I hope that one day we see a Division sequel where they're back in a cold, close quarters environment - maybe further north, or a year after the Dollar Flu outbreak? Give me manhunts, summit (controversial view: as a solo player, I find it damn fun) and a good story in a cold environment and I think I'm sold. Thanks for your vids, NGN - I really enjoy hearing you talk about TD. :)
Speaking of the second game being easier, I swear they released a patch somewhere after launch that made the game so much easier and a breeze to play solo, like seriously at launch it was much more difficult on the division 2 to play it than it is now. I also saw that confirmed when I checked.
Just finished the video! I agree almost completely with the way you compared these. Also, I’m glad I finally found someone who actually recognizes The Division 2 as not being “trash”. The only thing I’d personally disagree with is story. I prefer the way the second game handles the story. One of my gripes with the first game was how the story just abruptly ended with too many lose ends after too little time. I also thought it was dumb how the LMB were still the “scary bad guys”. Like seriously, their gear is on par with the JTF’s, AND we’ve taken their HQ + leadership. With the BTSU, they at least get their tech from the same place as the SHD. Anyway, great comparison!
Both are great, but for me, TD2 is much better than the first. I think that a lot of people who think that the first game is significantly better than the second game are just riding on nostalgia.
@Silent Assassin agreed. Div 2 DZ’s are way too small. Sometimes that has its advantages though I’ll admit. I wish WONY at least came with a big Div 1 style DZ
@@zeus28frenzy ya i could never agree. people who say Div 1 PvP is better then Div 2 are just people who liked abusing the constant healing effects and not being able to be kileld for 20 mintues straight. it legit bores me when im trying to kill a single person for extremely prolonged periods of time not because their a more skilled player but their abusing ill thought mechanics, its the number one reason why you have to stand still and takes a few seconds to replate in Div 2, and why the only other soruce of "healing" is on kill effects. even the devs knew how bad they fucked up with Div 1's PvP, particularly i believe it was Nomad? the one that can completely ignore Death based on RNG that was straight up the worst addition to the game.
@@zeus28frenzy like picture this, youre running a damage to build in Div 1 dark zone, and you get into a fight with anouther player, you shoot them, see their drop down, then suddenly spike back up, you shoot em more they pop one of 4 healing sources. thus undoing the damage you just did. rinse and repeat for god knows how long, suddenly they spin around and begin shooting you, you pop a medkit and heal, they shoot you, you go to heal again and......its still on cooldown, now youre dead. simply put in Div 1 PvP build diversity and playability was snuffed out because unless youre running a build that abuses and gives you healing all the time, youre never winning a gun fight.
I got into Division about a year or so late (traded an airsoft replica LMG for my PS4), but got pulled in by the story and spent alot of time grinding until West Side Pier opened up. I've played D2 since the beta, a first for me, with occasional breaks to play another title but I always come back. Actually playing while I watched this episode. I haven't been able to grind as heavily even with being unemployed most of 2019, and starting the new job right before an actual pandemic, but I'm still fan. I love the exploration aspects of the open worlds, searching for intel and echoes, and though I'm mostly a solo agent I do team up now and then. Some aspects I miss from the first, but I like the improvements that set it apart. This series has so much to offer a player like me, I can't wait to see what Heartland has for us.
There is so much from both games I love, pretty much everything you mentioned. I love the way Div 2 feels to play and love the activities in the open world, what I really miss are the Incursions and Legendary Missions that we would run each week as well as dedicated game modes like Underground and Survival - plus I miss the huge NY DZ which us one of the biggest mistakes they made which they knew pretty early on and why they abandoned PVP.
I love both division games they equally different and diverse the DZ in the first one was great and helping new agents on division 2 I ve made so many friends though the division saga there are some of the best lore videos and gear videos Great video thanks 👍👍
I've just completed a week in Div1 after more than a year away. With auto HDR and FPS boost to 60fps on XSX it still looks amazing. But the TTK on Legendary/Heroic is simply bonkers..... just too long. It was great for a wee visit but I'll not be sticking to Div1 for that reason.
I started playing The Division 1 back in April 2020. I felt the mix emotions of the recorded audios like how relax they were before it blows up and how scared they were during the 1st week after black friday happened; just like we were uncertain back then on how long this virus would eventually go. Fast forward to May 2021, I'm now playing The Division 2 up to this day. Comparing the 2, I like the idea that they include stories of ordinary people and how it affects them, which I think lacks in the sequel. On The Division 2, I then like that there are camps that slowly helps the community to recover.
The story and setting of TD1 is far better than TD2, the original story is literally what made it so popular in the first place. You just played TD2 first, which is why you like it better...which is fine...but the original story line is so much more realistic, gritty and had way better acting and voice acting. TD2 had crispier gameplay, that's it..
I played dv1 probably a bit to much, but I love that game. It was the only game I played. I loved every aspect of it, the pve, pvp, the world, and story. I sunk hours upon hours in playing when I should have been studying or sleeping but I'd kept playing. Then dv2 came out and I played through and got to max level. When I finished the game I felt like I wasted my time. I didn't feel rewarded for playing, I didn't feel like I got any enjoyment. Dv2 board me to the point I just walked away. I played dv1 solo 98% of the time and had emeance amounts of fun, but after I got past level 25 in dv2 I'd never get on unless the 1 friend I had that played dv2 got on. I just didn't care about dv2 the same way I cared about dv1. I gave dv2 another try soon before the first manhunt the took you to Manhattan I believe came out. I played for about 12 hours over 4 days and left to do other things. Dv2 has board me since day 1. I never had the eurge to grind for the overpowered gear the same way I did for dv1. Maybe it's nostalgia, but dv1 is my favorite of the 2 and it always will be.
Memories from div 1 Gameplay for div 2 (The div 1 will always hold a special place in my heart but as far as daily playing i dont bother with the div 1)
personally, i do enjoy the combat styles of both games. Div1 is much more unforgiving, but also just clunky at times. It can really get tiring when you just unload mag after mag into the 50th elite rioter who just walks towards you. At least Hyenas try to flank. And yeah, recoil was a bitch in Div1 unless you spec'd into nullifying it into the ground. But atmosphere and story goes to Div1. While i admire Div2 for what it had, Div1 was a lot more real imo. the whole "in the middle of the collapse" subgenre of post-apocalypse has never really been fully explored to me, so it felt interesting to know you have the backing of a government, but this place is still collapsing around you. And new york just felt a lot more colder to me (literally and metaphorically). the greys of Div1, in the menu, in the streets, make it seem much more depressing in this concrete jungle when you sit back and look at it. Div2 feels more action movie-y to me. It does get the whole vibe of midsummer july swelter across, but aside from the dark zones (which are really freaking cool in both games!), it just feels kinda meh. too much orange and yellow for my tastes. (WoNY was nice tho.) yeah, builds were diversified in Div2. no more running Lexington for GE credits. (i still want a dedicated healer gearset tho) and the dark zones are just sad in Div2. from an aesthetics point, they're SO COOL, absolutely covered in powder, the walls being caked with the stuff. but gameplay wise, you're more likely to get ganked from a 4 man squad than anything. Get the DZ materials and get out. and i do wish there were better gamemodes besides missions. I do believe that missions improved from the first game to the second, but i still want a good gamemode, as summit just feels like a slog of level section after level section after level section with more shit piled on for you to manage. Underground felt unique every time, they were their own mini missions. And while i know Survival will never come back, it was really fun.
Your content is the only Division related content i'm following right now. Have stopped playing after season 4 rolls out and have stopped following other content creators. Yours' is the most interesting in my opinion.
Playing legendary difficultly is better in D1. If you or your squad have good classified builds it’s a blast. Don’t have to sit in rooms throwing your skills at the enemy. Ever since gear 2.0, Massive has done everything they can to nerf the player! No more damage to elites attachments and protection from elites builds. The enemy AI hits harder and can take you down in 5 seconds regardless of level. A red bar shouldn’t shred Division agents. Then Massive removed majority of elites from higher difficulties to negate protection from elites builds. Also elites drop better gear so the developers are forcing players to grind over and over these missions. I recently came back to D2 and played with the few remaining active clan members left in my clan. It took us 53 minutes to run DUA on legendary and that was with no deaths or wipes. I was healer but the rest of the team was skill damage builds. At one point I said “Anybody going to run D3 or Striker? Need some action here.” My clan members didn’t know what I was referring to and one said “I have a striker build but it’s not optimized.” 🤦♂️. These guys never played D1, so throughout the course of the mission I was saying “we need a firecrest build” or “wish the healing hive was as good as the support station.”
I love how you break it down into definable categories and then explain how the games are different instead of just explaining how it's bad or being subjective about what you like about it 😁
I think the developers missed out on the opportunity to open N.Y. City some more. The bridge, for example, could’ve been a gate to open-up the other part of the city with its own challenges. Dying Light had something like that. Once you found the key to open-up the other city to explore, it was really entertaining. Maybe once that got old, then make the Washington D.C. game- linking all games together where you wouldn’t loose your builds, but continue on into other chapters of the game.
Yeah the E3 of Division 1 teased somethings that never came to fruition, including an extension of NYC to brooklyn… I recall the drone companion mobile app that basically has you hop on your friends session via smartphone app and play as a recon/support drone. There’s also the dynamic map where the map opens up similar to the echoes you find in the map, and Brooklyn was suppose to be an extension with it’s large dark zone but instead became a starter area ONLY and then no longer accessible after that..
I still think The Division 2's enviornments are grossly bloated. While The Division 1 didn't have as many activities it was much more freeing to explore without the gnawing and constant reminder of activities nearby or the game deciding it's been too quiet for too long and spawning random encounters. So many people bitched about how little there was to do in the LZ that there's times in D2 where I feel like I don't get to just explore uninterrupted. The Division 1 had civilians milling about. Scavenging, hunting for what few supplies may of remained. They asked for help, they'd call from the windows. Some hated seeing you around, thinking you brought trouble, others would warn you of bad guys that were actually right up the street. The Division 2 to me doesn't feel more alive as much as it feels cartoonishly over encumbered by this need to keep the player busy. The Division 2 could've done more with building up smaller settlements or communities around the city. Some side missions literally take place in areas where old settlements had tried to flourish. They could've had more rag tag civilians, unarmed or armed only with a pistol wandering about, digging through trash or old gardens. The initial reveal trailer made it seem like that'd be the case but more often than not it's just enemies over and over and over. The world just feels so...Stale. Granted Div 1 had the same enemy spawns in many pre designated spots but it felt more immersive yeah. People living their lives. Rioters trying to rob and take advantage of others, the game just had more urgency to simply survive and come back stronger. Meanwhile the second game throws your original character out the window (Getting off initial topic) and the interactions that should be super intense had it been your OG agent come off as watered down and lackluster at best. Personally I want 1, just with everything 2 has done to improve it and nothing taken out. Throw in heartlands ability to crouch and stealthily melee enemies and we have a winner.
Man, am I the ONLY one who likes div1 better than div2? I had to try really hard to enjoy div2 (I`ve played it for about 400 hours), but even thou there`s nothing left for me to loot, I keep coming back to div1.
I agree with a lot of what you said I am a D1 fan 5k Plus hours in the game and if I had to choose I'd still choose D1 over D2 because I feel D1 was ahead of its time D2 was rushed for profit because the Division 1 set records for Ubisoft but the sad part was they didn't stick to the formula that's why D2 will never be as good as D1 so I'm hoping The Division movie will do D1 justice!!
D1 should have stayed in development a little longer and avoid all downgrades and removed features. Then it would have been even better. I played only little bit over 1k hours but i didnt play since release because i didnt had pc to run it properly, back then on lowest settings with cfg file tweaks i got to 17 fps when no npc was around xD. Came back around 1.3 or 1.4 patch, dont remember which one exactly.
I love how the guns in D1 sounds and... nothing else. I dont hate the game but I just like D2 way more. In fact, if I didn't played D1 I would never have been interested in D2.
Dark Zones in Division 2 are only worth going there in any level previous to 30 to get good gear and since you're relatively on the lower percentage of players that aren't level 40 yet, you don't come across many tryhards camping entrances to get an easy manhunt. After hitting max level, you only go there for the pvp and that's about it
The division games have been some of my favorites just because of the story and feel. I recently picked up division 1 on steam to replay and I love it. I'm a solo player as well though and I dislike pvp for the most part. I would get melted by meta builds but I couldn't ever put an amazing build together myself. It's hard to see that the end game just isn't great still. I'm going to pick up division 2 though and play it again. I hope I can find something in the end game that I enjoy farming.
It's such a shame that these games didn't live up to their potential, but it seems like games never really do anymore; especially when published by a company like ubisoft. Nice video, and I could agree with or at least understand all of your takes.
Modern video games are not made for gamers anymore, they're made for microtransactions to suck as much money out of you as possible long enough for version 2 of the exact game your playing to come out and the cycle repeats.
I would disagree, I think the division 1 was practically perfect, that's why 7 years later there are still people who play it daily, so I'd say it lived up to its potential and ubisoft abandoned it because of the new wave of micro transaction based games. I've played 2 but I prefer 1 I downloaded both games again last night and I plan to spend some time playing both but if two just changed the atmosphere back to what 1 had, snowy, foggy, dark, sometimes stormy, and added in more civilians running around and more random events then 2 would be perfect. They just never recaptured the magic of the original game but they made some upgrades to 2 that 1 really should have gotten on its final update. I think if they remaster 1 and don't add micro transactions it'll be a game people play for another decade at least.
@J The BK Good? Sure. Great? Depends on who you ask. Perfect? Never. The game has many glaring issues that hold it back. Which is why I was excited for a sequel as it's a chance to fix the previous issues.
@@Supadrumma441 yep. Division 2 was just a failure. Hopefully if there's a third entry they'll finally learn from their mistake, but we'll see I guess.
The Division 2 and its lores… are so massively underrated ! After having finished all Outcasts, True Son and Hyenas first time, and Black Tusk came in, I realized how much wrong I was about this game. Sooo much development went into this one! Especially the lores, goshhh ! So relatable to our world!
I’m a new player to the genre, about 4 months ago Mattpatt on Gametheory made a RUclips video about the division which welcomed me to the new world. I got the first one and LOVED it. I played the campaign solo for and beat it by myself. I’ll never forget going into the dark zone for the first time. I had the weakest level 30 gear and was no where near ready. I remember running away from any enemies I came across, being scared shitless, my palms being sweaty and my heart pounding in my chest. It was genuinely terrifying. And in my opinion, that’s a GOOD thing. It made me feel immersed into the world and the story, kept me on my toes, and made me feel a way about a game I’ve NEVER felt before. It was a whole new experience and I loved it. I eventually leveled up and got stronger, i can actually survive and fight no problem in the dark zone, but man it was so scary at first. It was amazing I’ll never forget my first time going into the DZ. The division 2, in my opinion, wasn’t as scary. Once I reached level 40 I got lucky and got the chameleon first thing. Which helped me drastically when going to the dark zone. I got merked by other players, but that was more frustrating than it was scary. I was just so outclassed gear wise there was nothing I could do. Which imo is my biggest problem with the game. As a new player you’re kinda screwed cause most people playing now have been playing for years and not only do they not want to play with new people, but they actively avoid playing with new people. They also take advantage of them and kill them repeatedly (basically bullying) to help themselves get manhunt and other things. It makes new people like me not want to play the game at all cause I just can’t compete. They need to fix the balance to make it easier for new people to get top gear quickly so they can actually play the game and fight other people instead of constantly getting killed and bats toy by everyone
My experience with Division 1: the game was challenging. I would build a really strong PVE character and find that Ubisoft nerfed the build I used only weeks later. This trend continued and i eventually quit playing it. Over all it was a fun game. Now I play Division 2. So far the game play feels a bit more balanced. I can’t say how the dark zone is. I’m still playing the first run on the story. My playing style is campaign and co-op. I am not a strong PVP player. So I’d give both games a high fun score for co-op. I hope a Division 3 will be out in the near future
I recently have been working my way through several tom Clancy's games and your videos have definitely made the games much more enjoyable with your lore videos
I wonder if a future division 3 game would replace the dark zone pvp with faction pvp in the lightzone or make the whole map the dark zone. If that’s possible, then it would make sense in a lore aspect because one of dead drops comms called open gates, Keener said that the aftermath of the quarantine zone when he came back to NYC, he said that it was all gone or abandoned like the JTF gave up keeping up or something. The barricades , boats were also gone.
I think In terms of endgame I like 2 better just because I feel there’s a lot more content to run with, especially after the black tusk invasion, which is good for me since I only really do single player
I disagree movement on div 2 is sluggish and clunky compare to div 1. You can tell they slowed the animations down on div 2 mainly because of the glitches and bugs that they had in the first game. The snowdrop engine can handle only so many actions at once.
My favourite thing about D2 is how when you capture a control point, NPCs will then go to scavenge for water food and components, and will sometimes have to compete with enemies to do so. They actually leave their base, go to an area to scavenge and return which also grants the control point resources.
If you want to see absolute, uncurable aidscancer, take a look at the comments section in the Extra Credits video about "The Division sucks because politics" video. I have never seen people defend psychos with flamethrowers and hardened prison escapees in my life. My favorite comments had to be the people saying how much they identified with the Cleaners, and that we shouldn't be killing the Rikers because "breaking out of prison isn't a capital offense."
NGN i have a question off-topic from the Div1 VS Div2 debate: Q: Do you think the Division franchise should have done like World of Warcraft, as one mega game with constant updates and expansions, instead of a Division 2, Division 3, Division 4 etc? My question is inspired by my friend who plays WOW way back in 2018 when Division 2 was just announced. He questioned the viability of having multiple games in the first place, saying that this is all just to make us spend more money. Massive could have just revamped the movement and combat for Div 1 to Div 2 standards, combined both worlds into a Manhattan Chapter and Washington Chapter, made ALL the content from both sides accessible to all players (i.e. Incursions, Raids, Summit, Underground, Survival, Last Stand, all Legendary Missions and whatever that may come out in Heartland). Previously, I just laughed it off, but now with Division 3 rumors being active now, I start to see my friend's point, that just releasing more games is just a cash cow to them at our monetary expense. What do you think, would it be possible?
I got division 1 on xbox release day and loved us but i stopped playing b4 dlc come out. then i got division 2 release day played the story n left it at that till my sis got it so i booted it up again and got the dlc. i still love playing but now i have d1 for ps so playing through that at mo and loving it again.
i have over 2000 hours in div1 and 5000 hours in div2 , i know i have no life lol but i still go back to div1 its just more fun , i dont pvp , but they are both good games just whish they whould put more content in div 2 , your spot on in this vid , thanks buddy
I played both games extensively too and have made a comparison myself. Noticed there are things I agree with on your opinion and most things I disagreed were usually personal preference. Like I always say, both games have their own pros and cons, which are similar and/or different from the other. The division 1 and division 2 are like an apple and an orange, they're both fruits, but are totally different altogether. After several adjustments/patches to the game, here's my updated opinion: movement 1 combat 2 atmosphere 1 environment 2 builds 2 pvp 1 darkzone 1 endgame 2 story 1 *Legend: 1 = division 1, 2 = division 2 PS: I don't like pvp in both but if I were to choose, I just choose 1 :D
I think you will love it in my opinion. Everything feels so much dire and much more depressingly desperate in the first game. And the atmosphere? Chef's Kiss on that one over Div 2. One of my favorite aspects of Div 1 is Rick Valassi and his radio podcast "Wouldn't You Know It?." Try and read the books and comic if you can. Collapse of New York(During the Div1. Can be used in conjunction with the game following the story of April Kelleher but, not necessary). Broken Dawn(during and following the events of Div1. Leading to and bridging the gap between the events of Div2.) Extremis Malis(Comic) Another bridge element between the 2 games. Supposedly another official novel is being written and coming soon. Dont remember the name of it but there is enough content to keep you good for a long while. There is also a "World of Tom Clancy's The Division Encyclopedia." As well as a Art book of the Division. I know I am missing some other stuff but that would be a great start if you so chose to delve into the story further. I am a story guy so I just cant help myself. Good luck, Agent.
I miss the builds i made in one. Made and amazing healer and and amazing explosives character. The skills felt simpler to understand for some reason. Hate snow though. Division 2 wins in environment for me
@@niksobil best way to enjoy the story mode honestly. You can take your time and explore every nook and cranny at your own pace. Ymmv depending on your own play style. Which obviously is totally fine. Your money, your choice.
I have to say that, while I love, love, love the Division 1, I don’t jump into it as much as I do the Division 2. It’s the builds, loot & challenges for me. I prefer the Division 2 interface more than the Division 1. But the story &, yes, atmosphere is lacking for me in the Division 2. In regards to the world & storytelling of the Division 2, there wasn’t enough.
Mission variations in the second was by far the best thing they could’ve done. Got so sick of over playing the same missions in the div (D1 is my fav ps4 game chill) the fact you can run a mission in D2 AND play it like 2-3 times in a different way was so awesome
Nothing will ever beat roaming the Dark Zone at night with a blizzard obscuring you view, and you camping an extraction point hoping nobody rolls up on your squad. It was just flat out amazingly intense.
I lived in Cali my whole life… it’s the same theme as Washington summer, I’ve always wanted to go into a cold climate and touch snow hahaha this is the closest ima get for the time being and they nailed it. The attention to detail is insane! In The Division 1
I enjoyed both. I love atmosphere and feel of div 1 but I left very early when it was buggy. Div 2 is my most played game on ps4. I love they built on all the rpg elements and the first time I reached max level and the black tusk invade was soo good. Then the expansion I had fun to only thing they I don't like content wise in div2 is seasons, the tedious chores never appealed to me. What I love about div 1 is the feel but actually playing hours upon hours and still enjoying myself definitely div 2 (I did come back and play all the div 1 DLC content and still prefer div 2 content EXECEPT survival was KING) Also to note I never cared about pvp I loved the idea of the DZ but even in div 1 I always thought pvp was never their focus just a cool lore addition that allowed pvp.
Im a super solo player. And d2 has a ton to chew on. If d1 isnt super punishing and things to do, like side missions, i might give it a run. Super good impression for 2 tho walking out and seeing so much life. Seeing d1 as a dead city would be a nice addition to the palette.
Regarding combat, D2 has way more spongier bosses than D1, especially on Legendary and Heroic. But the biggest issue in D2 is survivability. In Legendary and Heroic, the player is way to frail. And if you are "lucky" to encounter some of those grenade spammers, it just gets way to frustrating. I quit playing D2 a few months ago. It's just too repetitive, same missions, same recycled content. I only jump into Survival in D1 once in a while.
Would you recommend the game for a solo, never on a party, rather blow teammates with several grenade than being part of their strategies, kind of player like myself?
You’re officially my Tom Clancy channel from now on. I don’t remember liking Division 2 as much, but I loved 1. I feel like I should revisit. Wanna get pumped for Heartland
I played a fair amount of Division 1, but it got too iffy at some point and I enjoyed it less. Division 2 on the other hand, I played with much more, and still play now. So I guess I prefer Division 2...though it could use some improvements with solo playing..
Pvp and DZ are really broken and bad as you said. The main problem is that everybody's using meta builds, so you won't really see any build variety or whatsoever. Just went to the DZ today, inspected my gankers and all of them had either Famas or Lady Death meta builds...basically, going there with your unique shotgun or lmg build is suicide, not to mention that if you're not in a group or with a friend you'll have your butt spanked.
div 2 i played far more but i do miss that atmosphere 1 had dark and empty robed of hope yet still here and there with the right music playing at right part i still felt hope and the power to fight 1 had a unique take in games on a Apocalypse where the government was still there fighting ever on with world outside still there if not in a great place but there
I do enjoy the storyline in the first Division game. It was a bit darker, we still didn't know what was going on. Although if you had to just buy one game, I'd go with 2 because you can play in both DC and New York with the expansion.
In the division 1 you could smash windows even make holes in concrete walls if you shoot enough at the same spot. I loved how you could shoot stuff and it would break. None of that in div 2. Maybe its just me but that disapointed me hard ruind my immersion. In div 2 everything is just static even car tiers.
To be honest I think division 1 is still the better game mainly because it has replayable content and what does division 2 have fk all except for the summit which I don't even play cause it's not worth it I've actually more or less quit playing division 2 and gone back to division 1. Love the video looking forward to the next one
I absolutely love both but division 2 as a whole takes it for me. Your absolutely right about the environment though. If they put division 2 game and put it on division 1 new york it would be perfect
You think DV 2 is better than 1. Right? I bought DV 2 recently but didin't play yet and I wonder which is better: The Division 2 or Breakpoint Wildlands? Should I buy Wildlands?
I haven't played Div 2 in a year. I just hated the things they changed. I really feel like the could've updated the graphics, smoothed out the bugs and we would have had a great game. The combat felt stiff and suffocating. I may pick it back up again because the same thing happened to me when I played Div 1. Hated it at first waited a year or two came back and loved it.
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
I found the atmosphere in div 1 far more unique and special than div 2. Division 2 has your typical post apocalyptic world with nature and vines growing everywhere, and the cracks in the pavement overrun with weeds. Whilst in Division 1 buildings aren't all uninhabitable and overgrown, they still look lived in (at most) and a little less cliche-apocalyptic *COUGH COUGH WoNY NEW YORK*. I agree with what you said about the Christmas decorations because they just add to the spookiness of it all. Think about it, what other games take place in that rarely explored time frame in winter only a few weeks into the virus. Also, in division 2 there are absolutely no living civilians on the streets (aside from gangs), but in Division 1 you still see people looking out of their windows and walking on the street. Hell, it even rewards you with small things for giving them things in return. Back to the buildings, it gave you hope that you could still save the old society before the outbreak + there were quite a few still living civilians.
Hmm I haven't ever played the first one but the second one I was hooked with the first line half hour and ha e been acting off and on when I can past 2 years . I got WONY. Expansion but the snow atotomosphre and still civilians might be a welcomed cha ce of scenery kinda wish they made an update where there were civilians still alive that can hide you from enemies in exchange for food / supplies
I agree. I love the feeling of Division 1 how surreal it all feels. That only weeks prior the world was normal, completely fine. It's amazing how they made a world that was so full of death feel so alive. I was hoping that with WONY they'd bring that feeling of surrealism back but it was a missed opportunity.
Division 2 is a great game but the atmosphere of its predecessor is so much better in just about every way. The cold gritty feeling of winter making time seem to slow to a halt in the city that never sleeps. My favorite place in the first game is Dark Zone 9 in the top left corner it's just a pile of bodies stacked higher than the first floor of some of the buildings only then do you realize just how brutal that virus was.
I love both games but the atmosphere really sold the first one for me.
Warlords of new York looks fine. This takes place a while after the first division. Things will be overgrown and ruined. And the game gets the vibe right. Next game they should totally do autumn or winter, but summer was epic too....
The reason why there are no civilians on the streets is they all live in settlements now
You dont get far when youve been fk’in around in the swamp.
I'm a 67 year old gramma playing this game. I played Division 1 until 2 came out. I basically play alone or with 1 friend. I really prefer 2. All the things I can do in the open world alone is great. I have a very strong build but prefer to just play on hard alone. I enjoy just killing them easily. When playing with friend, we do a lot of heroic. I love the graphics of both games but enjoy DC mainly. I enjoy the summit. I've played some in dark zones but not as much as in 1. I've never played the raids. But I just enjoy 2 the best.
PS one reason for playing this game over other games, the controller has legacy where most games don't. I just cannot function on the others. Everything is backwards for me! Ugh
What system you play on? Im on xbox and its hard to find other players
@@bucknasty8597 xbox 1s
Thanks for this insight :)
Thank you for your service agent
I'm with ya on that too! I loved both games, I just liked 2 better because of the awesome combat gadgets and the awesome level design!
I'll never forget making my way through the Dark Zone in Div 1 and happening upon the mountain of body bags. Pilled up haphazardly and strewn about heavy machinery. It was honestly a harrowing moment for me. The atmosphere of that final DZ was so eerie. I totally agree in Div 1 having a better atmosphere.
It felt like death everywhere in DiV DZ
The division has a good story characters and
CAR DOORS CLOSING
Fun fact: Div 2 tells you on the character select screen how many car doors your gloves have closed.
@@chriswithrow3107 lol
@@chriswithrow3107 Does it actually?
@@atas2561 yep. Each weapon and all 6 pieces of gear tell you a random stat, like named enemies killed, headshot kills, etc.
@@chriswithrow3107 l saw that a few months ago and then during my next session I just took cover with cars and closed doors for like 10 minutes lol
There are some things D1 did better and some things D2 did better.
That's the main takeaway here. Also applies to ALMOST ALL OF Ubisoft's games.
And what exactly if you are so smart
Yeah like how the level design and gadgets in 2 were better than 1, and the snowy New York setting in 1 was definitely better than 2, not saying I hated DC of 2 I loved both the post apocalyptic worlds I just think fighting in those heavy blizzards of New York felt especially intense
DZ
Tbh I like how D2 has a mechanic that allows you to ask for back up which is a easier way of getting other people to help you.
One thing I liked about the D1 is the atmosphere, sometimes you truly felt alone and gave the whole "you're on your own" feeling
I agree division one with the snowy look is great but dc at night is so good and it keeps me on my feet knowing stalker hunters watching all the time idk there both great but div 2 is my favorite
Well, if you're going to talk about Gameplay, the Division Two is better. Not abnormal given the fact it's more recent, has more variety in weapons. As for all the rest, diversity in activities, gearsets, overall fun and setting, I'll take the Division One.
I agree
I like the cosmetics too in the division 1,they look way better In My opinion
I also hate the builds in the division 2 one legit makes it so you have unlimited grenade,sniper and arrow ammo
Why is "more recent" a factor in your head?
@@doltBmBthey were saying that's a factor as to why the game feels better gameplay wize, which is just how game dev works. More tech to use, more experience. It's gonna feel better in most cases in newer games
My favorite activity from the division 1 was the survival game mode. Didn't care if I ran into other players. I just enjoyed starting with pretty much nothing and trying to survive for as long as possible.
Oh man, the snowstorm mode was absolutely awesome
VERY missed opportunity by not including a survival mode for Division 2.
It was my favorite mode to play and they could have made it work for Division 2. They could instead have major hurricane force storms during this. Warnings to get to cover as debris would be flying around, and do serious damage or incap you if hit.
The temp and rain could be very cold, so this would require you to constantly have to change clothes to avoid hypothermia. Then again, they could have changing weather so you have to worry about it being too humid and hot, having a risk of hyperthermia (basically heat stroke). You would be forced to drink water to stay hydrated during this.
Honestly, they could have done this better around the "Warlords of New York" DLC. Having a survival back in New York during the summer would be a different experience, especially with different weather elements.
If they do make a Division 3, they BETTER have a survival mode.
This is the reason Im redownloading it today, a mode ahead of it’s time for sure.
No one ever mentions the way you use consumables in the first game compared to the second. Like picking up explosive rounds, incendiary, water for buff etc and using when the right situations calls to use them usually baking em for dark zone, the second game uses em immediately. The supers never get mentioned like super damage mitigation or double damage made for some insane plays in the dark zone. Really hope there's a div 3 that can mix the best parts from both games
Mobile game, take it or leave it
Leave it I’ll stick to div 1 n 2
I've always been a fan of your work. Ever since I started both games and was hooked with the lore of the division universe, your channel has been my sanctuary. to the point where during my quiet time, I listen to your lore videos similar to a podcast. Your stories have helped me relax and destress. :) And it makes me happy you made something like this. A proper comparison of both games. Respect bro! :)
Both games are good
Period 💕
Yes
Awesome
What’s better for online, like team death match and other game modes?
@@FighterChamp. division 1 most people say has better PvP while d2 better pve
The one thing I love about the division 2 are the many various builds you can create. As you can seriously specialize into what ever style of build you want to be. For example if you want to be a juggernaut with a m60 you can and still fight off the enemies. If you want to be a sniper with low health but high damage you can. And with either one if played right you can run entire missions on the hardest difficulty along with directives and survive and complete missions.
I’ve only played the second, and I’m a VERY casual Division player. But I find myself wanting to play the 1st so bad just because of that atmosphere. It’s soooo good
The division 1 is a better game.
I know I'm late, but just buy it when it's cheap and try it.
@@RiskTakerzz more atmosphere due to it being winter and people still on the streets
Div2 is faster and better build synergy in teams
I've seen it go for 5 dollars or even free once or twice on Playstation
45 degrees Celsius outside but the intro tune still giving me chills. 10/10
Didn't play Division 1 that much, but I play the Division 2 way more.
I can’t tell you how awesome it is to have a constant division channel that’s really
I'm a 90% solo player too. The only time I play with others is when I either need help with a control point or someone asks for help. Otherwise, I do everything myself, even though I'm in a casual clan. Currently doing a second run of both trying different loadouts
I like the rogue agent idea cus in real life not everyone is going to stay straight and narrow
Agreed.
I dunno if video games should emulate real life. Like, I don't want to worry about paying rent, finding parking, taking care of kids, going to school, getting arrested for shooting up a mall or two, things like that are just too realistic. The fact that I'm a super-soldier running around in a post-apocalyptic universe has let me drop any pretenses that I'm participating in something realistic, especially after firing the 308th shot into an adult man's face, taking him down to 50% health. Seriously, are you for real lil' homie?
@@a_doggo imma be honest, you're an idiot if you think you need to have realistic gameplay mechanics in order to have realistic character personalities
I don't like the short rogue timers, it should be a 5 minute timer minimum, a decision with consequences
I really like the atmosphere in Division 1.
Divison 1's atmosphere and setting with Divison 2's gameplay and mechanics. Perfection is born.
100 % again !!!!
A lot of very upset people commenting on this video 😅
Remember, it's ok to have a different opinion. But RUclips requires me to manage out the hateful / threatening comments - so don't take it so personal 😆
Man…you’ve made some valid points. Yeah the summit we were just glad to have some new content, not realizing the reason why we’re climbing these floors. Other than looking at the floors and highlighting floor 100 and seeing it blur then we knew 😁
Which do yo pefer
What you said about pvp has been more thought for a while. I don't think pvp was an original focus when they made the game, but they did tried to cater and fix it due to the popularity and complaints
For the story part, you missed the ISAC missions from Division 1. They were akin to the season content fron D2 but with higher production values. Its a part I wish they could of kept on doing. Taking Asher down felt good... That a-hole. Great video as always. Keep up the good work
Division 1 is dead
I always go back for the Survival! And I am a huge fan of snowy atmosphere in the first game!
It's about time we have a D1 renaissance.
Mr siri , i loved both the division , but i loved the game because of ur analysis of the game . I felt how deep a game narrative could be other than fps shooters like COD and Battlefield franchises. Thankyou. And keep up the good work.
The one thing that always brings me back is the open world. It's so fun walking around and running into groups of enemies. This makes it so I'm always aware of what happens.
The combat and gameplay is so smooth
So I only started playing The Division earlier this year - think it was a freebie, then I bought The Division 2 on sale.
I enjoyed both games - the original definitely felt more difficult than the sequel - that's not to say it's a cakewalk (as I've played TD2 more, I've scaled up the difficulty a bit).
Don't get me wrong, running around Washington with a Cuelebre and a (I think it's called the Capacitor? Can't remember) is fun, I did like New York in TD1 slightly more - it felt more in your face, and those traps all over the place really spooked me all the time.
I hope that one day we see a Division sequel where they're back in a cold, close quarters environment - maybe further north, or a year after the Dollar Flu outbreak? Give me manhunts, summit (controversial view: as a solo player, I find it damn fun) and a good story in a cold environment and I think I'm sold.
Thanks for your vids, NGN - I really enjoy hearing you talk about TD. :)
Speaking of the second game being easier, I swear they released a patch somewhere after launch that made the game so much easier and a breeze to play solo, like seriously at launch it was much more difficult on the division 2 to play it than it is now. I also saw that confirmed when I checked.
I also like the "Call for Backup" feature on Div 2, makes the game less lonely and it can save you time from repeating a heroic bounty from the start.
Just finished the video! I agree almost completely with the way you compared these. Also, I’m glad I finally found someone who actually recognizes The Division 2 as not being “trash”. The only thing I’d personally disagree with is story. I prefer the way the second game handles the story. One of my gripes with the first game was how the story just abruptly ended with too many lose ends after too little time. I also thought it was dumb how the LMB were still the “scary bad guys”. Like seriously, their gear is on par with the JTF’s, AND we’ve taken their HQ + leadership. With the BTSU, they at least get their tech from the same place as the SHD. Anyway, great comparison!
Yeah the first game go here's cleaners aaaaand their boss is dead. Here's the LMB aaaaand you shot down their boss heli
Both are great, but for me, TD2 is much better than the first. I think that a lot of people who think that the first game is significantly better than the second game are just riding on nostalgia.
Division 2 has gameplay/polish
Division 1 has story/background
@Silent Assassin agreed. Div 2 DZ’s are way too small. Sometimes that has its advantages though I’ll admit. I wish WONY at least came with a big Div 1 style DZ
The division 1 is still so good partly because of survival, I keep going back to that mode and it always is a blast
@Silent Assassin yeah division 2 i can’t go out without getting shot
Listening to you talk about this is like listening to my own thoughts. Even the mentions/comparisons to other games.
The Division 2’s core gameplay and PVE is way better than Division 1’s.. Although all the OG’s know how much better the PVP is in division 1’s DZ.
"LETS MAKE A SUPER BUILD AND BULLY LOWER RANKED PLAYERS JUST TRYING TO GEAR UP FOR PVE" Yeah fuck that. Dark zones dead
@@zeus28frenzy ya i could never agree.
people who say Div 1 PvP is better then Div 2 are just people who liked abusing the constant healing effects and not being able to be kileld for 20 mintues straight.
it legit bores me when im trying to kill a single person for extremely prolonged periods of time not because their a more skilled player but their abusing ill thought mechanics,
its the number one reason why you have to stand still and takes a few seconds to replate in Div 2, and why the only other soruce of "healing" is on kill effects.
even the devs knew how bad they fucked up with Div 1's PvP, particularly i believe it was Nomad? the one that can completely ignore Death based on RNG that was straight up the worst addition to the game.
@@zeus28frenzy like picture this, youre running a damage to build in Div 1 dark zone, and you get into a fight with anouther player, you shoot them, see their drop down, then suddenly spike back up, you shoot em more they pop one of 4 healing sources.
thus undoing the damage you just did.
rinse and repeat for god knows how long, suddenly they spin around and begin shooting you, you pop a medkit and heal, they shoot you, you go to heal again and......its still on cooldown, now youre dead.
simply put in Div 1 PvP build diversity and playability was snuffed out because unless youre running a build that abuses and gives you healing all the time, youre never winning a gun fight.
I got into Division about a year or so late (traded an airsoft replica LMG for my PS4), but got pulled in by the story and spent alot of time grinding until West Side Pier opened up. I've played D2 since the beta, a first for me, with occasional breaks to play another title but I always come back. Actually playing while I watched this episode. I haven't been able to grind as heavily even with being unemployed most of 2019, and starting the new job right before an actual pandemic, but I'm still fan.
I love the exploration aspects of the open worlds, searching for intel and echoes, and though I'm mostly a solo agent I do team up now and then. Some aspects I miss from the first, but I like the improvements that set it apart. This series has so much to offer a player like me, I can't wait to see what Heartland has for us.
There is so much from both games I love, pretty much everything you mentioned. I love the way Div 2 feels to play and love the activities in the open world, what I really miss are the Incursions and Legendary Missions that we would run each week as well as dedicated game modes like Underground and Survival - plus I miss the huge NY DZ which us one of the biggest mistakes they made which they knew pretty early on and why they abandoned PVP.
I love both division games they equally different and diverse the DZ in the first one was great and helping new agents on division 2 I ve made so many friends though the division saga there are some of the best lore videos and gear videos
Great video thanks 👍👍
Another brilliant breakdown. And, even more so, I like how you expressed each section, to explain your decisions. Nicely done!?!
I've just completed a week in Div1 after more than a year away. With auto HDR and FPS boost to 60fps on XSX it still looks amazing. But the TTK on Legendary/Heroic is simply bonkers..... just too long. It was great for a wee visit but I'll not be sticking to Div1 for that reason.
At least on heroic you can kill stuff without a dps build
I started playing The Division 1 back in April 2020. I felt the mix emotions of the recorded audios like how relax they were before it blows up and how scared they were during the 1st week after black friday happened; just like we were uncertain back then on how long this virus would eventually go. Fast forward to May 2021, I'm now playing The Division 2 up to this day. Comparing the 2, I like the idea that they include stories of ordinary people and how it affects them, which I think lacks in the sequel. On The Division 2, I then like that there are camps that slowly helps the community to recover.
I was late to Div 1 since I played after Div 2. Movement, story, enemies, and game mechanics all feel better in Div 2. Another great NGN vid, thanks!
The story and setting of TD1 is far better than TD2, the original story is literally what made it so popular in the first place. You just played TD2 first, which is why you like it better...which is fine...but the original story line is so much more realistic, gritty and had way better acting and voice acting. TD2 had crispier gameplay, that's it..
I played dv1 probably a bit to much, but I love that game. It was the only game I played. I loved every aspect of it, the pve, pvp, the world, and story. I sunk hours upon hours in playing when I should have been studying or sleeping but I'd kept playing. Then dv2 came out and I played through and got to max level. When I finished the game I felt like I wasted my time. I didn't feel rewarded for playing, I didn't feel like I got any enjoyment. Dv2 board me to the point I just walked away. I played dv1 solo 98% of the time and had emeance amounts of fun, but after I got past level 25 in dv2 I'd never get on unless the 1 friend I had that played dv2 got on. I just didn't care about dv2 the same way I cared about dv1. I gave dv2 another try soon before the first manhunt the took you to Manhattan I believe came out. I played for about 12 hours over 4 days and left to do other things. Dv2 has board me since day 1. I never had the eurge to grind for the overpowered gear the same way I did for dv1. Maybe it's nostalgia, but dv1 is my favorite of the 2 and it always will be.
Memories from div 1
Gameplay for div 2
(The div 1 will always hold a special place in my heart but as far as daily playing i dont bother with the div 1)
personally, i do enjoy the combat styles of both games. Div1 is much more unforgiving, but also just clunky at times. It can really get tiring when you just unload mag after mag into the 50th elite rioter who just walks towards you. At least Hyenas try to flank. And yeah, recoil was a bitch in Div1 unless you spec'd into nullifying it into the ground.
But atmosphere and story goes to Div1. While i admire Div2 for what it had, Div1 was a lot more real imo. the whole "in the middle of the collapse" subgenre of post-apocalypse has never really been fully explored to me, so it felt interesting to know you have the backing of a government, but this place is still collapsing around you. And new york just felt a lot more colder to me (literally and metaphorically). the greys of Div1, in the menu, in the streets, make it seem much more depressing in this concrete jungle when you sit back and look at it. Div2 feels more action movie-y to me. It does get the whole vibe of midsummer july swelter across, but aside from the dark zones (which are really freaking cool in both games!), it just feels kinda meh. too much orange and yellow for my tastes. (WoNY was nice tho.)
yeah, builds were diversified in Div2. no more running Lexington for GE credits. (i still want a dedicated healer gearset tho)
and the dark zones are just sad in Div2. from an aesthetics point, they're SO COOL, absolutely covered in powder, the walls being caked with the stuff. but gameplay wise, you're more likely to get ganked from a 4 man squad than anything. Get the DZ materials and get out.
and i do wish there were better gamemodes besides missions. I do believe that missions improved from the first game to the second, but i still want a good gamemode, as summit just feels like a slog of level section after level section after level section with more shit piled on for you to manage. Underground felt unique every time, they were their own mini missions. And while i know Survival will never come back, it was really fun.
agreee
I really want D1 map and atmosphere with D2 gameplay
100 % !!!
Super refreshing video. I appreciate your point of view and keep it coming. Cheers mate!
Your content is the only Division related content i'm following right now. Have stopped playing after season 4 rolls out and have stopped following other content creators. Yours' is the most interesting in my opinion.
Playing legendary difficultly is better in D1. If you or your squad have good classified builds it’s a blast. Don’t have to sit in rooms throwing your skills at the enemy. Ever since gear 2.0, Massive has done everything they can to nerf the player! No more damage to elites attachments and protection from elites builds. The enemy AI hits harder and can take you down in 5 seconds regardless of level. A red bar shouldn’t shred Division agents. Then Massive removed majority of elites from higher difficulties to negate protection from elites builds. Also elites drop better gear so the developers are forcing players to grind over and over these missions.
I recently came back to D2 and played with the few remaining active clan members left in my clan. It took us 53 minutes to run DUA on legendary and that was with no deaths or wipes. I was healer but the rest of the team was skill damage builds. At one point I said “Anybody going to run D3 or Striker? Need some action here.” My clan members didn’t know what I was referring to and one said “I have a striker build but it’s not optimized.” 🤦♂️. These guys never played D1, so throughout the course of the mission I was saying “we need a firecrest build” or “wish the healing hive was as good as the support station.”
Hmm it's hard for me to say which one is better the first one started it all but the second one continues the story.
I love how you break it down into definable categories and then explain how the games are different instead of just explaining how it's bad or being subjective about what you like about it 😁
I think the developers missed out on the opportunity to open N.Y. City some more. The bridge, for example, could’ve been a gate to open-up the other part of the city with its own challenges. Dying Light had something like that. Once you found the key to open-up the other city to explore, it was really entertaining. Maybe once that got old, then make the Washington D.C. game- linking all games together where you wouldn’t loose your builds, but continue on into other chapters of the game.
Yeah the E3 of Division 1 teased somethings that never came to fruition, including an extension of NYC to brooklyn…
I recall the drone companion mobile app that basically has you hop on your friends session via smartphone app and play as a recon/support drone. There’s also the dynamic map where the map opens up similar to the echoes you find in the map, and Brooklyn was suppose to be an extension with it’s large dark zone but instead became a starter area ONLY and then no longer accessible after that..
Also, I agree with you a 1000000000% on the Ghost Recon games.
I still think The Division 2's enviornments are grossly bloated. While The Division 1 didn't have as many activities it was much more freeing to explore without the gnawing and constant reminder of activities nearby or the game deciding it's been too quiet for too long and spawning random encounters.
So many people bitched about how little there was to do in the LZ that there's times in D2 where I feel like I don't get to just explore uninterrupted. The Division 1 had civilians milling about. Scavenging, hunting for what few supplies may of remained. They asked for help, they'd call from the windows. Some hated seeing you around, thinking you brought trouble, others would warn you of bad guys that were actually right up the street. The Division 2 to me doesn't feel more alive as much as it feels cartoonishly over encumbered by this need to keep the player busy.
The Division 2 could've done more with building up smaller settlements or communities around the city. Some side missions literally take place in areas where old settlements had tried to flourish. They could've had more rag tag civilians, unarmed or armed only with a pistol wandering about, digging through trash or old gardens. The initial reveal trailer made it seem like that'd be the case but more often than not it's just enemies over and over and over. The world just feels so...Stale.
Granted Div 1 had the same enemy spawns in many pre designated spots but it felt more immersive yeah. People living their lives. Rioters trying to rob and take advantage of others, the game just had more urgency to simply survive and come back stronger. Meanwhile the second game throws your original character out the window (Getting off initial topic) and the interactions that should be super intense had it been your OG agent come off as watered down and lackluster at best.
Personally I want 1, just with everything 2 has done to improve it and nothing taken out. Throw in heartlands ability to crouch and stealthily melee enemies and we have a winner.
Man, am I the ONLY one who likes div1 better than div2? I had to try really hard to enjoy div2 (I`ve played it for about 400 hours), but even thou there`s nothing left for me to loot, I keep coming back to div1.
No no, the majority prefer TD1.
The reason I made this was because of all the noise against TD2 - I wanted to offer a different perspective.
I agree with a lot of what you said I am a D1 fan 5k Plus hours in the game and if I had to choose I'd still choose D1 over D2 because I feel D1 was ahead of its time D2 was rushed for profit because the Division 1 set records for Ubisoft but the sad part was they didn't stick to the formula that's why D2 will never be as good as D1 so I'm hoping The Division movie will do D1 justice!!
D1 should have stayed in development a little longer and avoid all downgrades and removed features. Then it would have been even better. I played only little bit over 1k hours but i didnt play since release because i didnt had pc to run it properly, back then on lowest settings with cfg file tweaks i got to 17 fps when no npc was around xD. Came back around 1.3 or 1.4 patch, dont remember which one exactly.
I love how the guns in D1 sounds and... nothing else. I dont hate the game but I just like D2 way more. In fact, if I didn't played D1 I would never have been interested in D2.
Division 1 masterpiece simplicity of the game is the key
Division 2 to much of everything
Dark Zones in Division 2 are only worth going there in any level previous to 30 to get good gear and since you're relatively on the lower percentage of players that aren't level 40 yet, you don't come across many tryhards camping entrances to get an easy manhunt. After hitting max level, you only go there for the pvp and that's about it
The division games have been some of my favorites just because of the story and feel. I recently picked up division 1 on steam to replay and I love it. I'm a solo player as well though and I dislike pvp for the most part. I would get melted by meta builds but I couldn't ever put an amazing build together myself.
It's hard to see that the end game just isn't great still. I'm going to pick up division 2 though and play it again. I hope I can find something in the end game that I enjoy farming.
It's such a shame that these games didn't live up to their potential, but it seems like games never really do anymore; especially when published by a company like ubisoft. Nice video, and I could agree with or at least understand all of your takes.
Modern video games are not made for gamers anymore, they're made for microtransactions to suck as much money out of you as possible long enough for version 2 of the exact game your playing to come out and the cycle repeats.
I would disagree, I think the division 1 was practically perfect, that's why 7 years later there are still people who play it daily, so I'd say it lived up to its potential and ubisoft abandoned it because of the new wave of micro transaction based games. I've played 2 but I prefer 1 I downloaded both games again last night and I plan to spend some time playing both but if two just changed the atmosphere back to what 1 had, snowy, foggy, dark, sometimes stormy, and added in more civilians running around and more random events then 2 would be perfect. They just never recaptured the magic of the original game but they made some upgrades to 2 that 1 really should have gotten on its final update. I think if they remaster 1 and don't add micro transactions it'll be a game people play for another decade at least.
@J The BK Good? Sure. Great? Depends on who you ask. Perfect? Never. The game has many glaring issues that hold it back. Which is why I was excited for a sequel as it's a chance to fix the previous issues.
@@k-fedd Div1 gear system shits on div2 one IMO.
@@Supadrumma441 yep. Division 2 was just a failure. Hopefully if there's a third entry they'll finally learn from their mistake, but we'll see I guess.
The Division 2 and its lores… are so massively underrated ! After having finished all Outcasts, True Son and Hyenas first time, and Black Tusk came in, I realized how much wrong I was about this game. Sooo much development went into this one! Especially the lores, goshhh ! So relatable to our world!
I’m a new player to the genre, about 4 months ago Mattpatt on Gametheory made a RUclips video about the division which welcomed me to the new world. I got the first one and LOVED it. I played the campaign solo for and beat it by myself. I’ll never forget going into the dark zone for the first time. I had the weakest level 30 gear and was no where near ready. I remember running away from any enemies I came across, being scared shitless, my palms being sweaty and my heart pounding in my chest. It was genuinely terrifying. And in my opinion, that’s a GOOD thing. It made me feel immersed into the world and the story, kept me on my toes, and made me feel a way about a game I’ve NEVER felt before. It was a whole new experience and I loved it. I eventually leveled up and got stronger, i can actually survive and fight no problem in the dark zone, but man it was so scary at first. It was amazing I’ll never forget my first time going into the DZ. The division 2, in my opinion, wasn’t as scary. Once I reached level 40 I got lucky and got the chameleon first thing. Which helped me drastically when going to the dark zone. I got merked by other players, but that was more frustrating than it was scary. I was just so outclassed gear wise there was nothing I could do. Which imo is my biggest problem with the game. As a new player you’re kinda screwed cause most people playing now have been playing for years and not only do they not want to play with new people, but they actively avoid playing with new people. They also take advantage of them and kill them repeatedly (basically bullying) to help themselves get manhunt and other things. It makes new people like me not want to play the game at all cause I just can’t compete. They need to fix the balance to make it easier for new people to get top gear quickly so they can actually play the game and fight other people instead of constantly getting killed and bats toy by everyone
I’ve been to DC, and it made me realize how detailed the world is. For example, the hotel that I stayed at is a control point but I forget witch one
My experience with Division 1: the game was challenging. I would build a really strong PVE character and find that Ubisoft nerfed the build I used only weeks later. This trend continued and i eventually quit playing it.
Over all it was a fun game.
Now I play Division 2. So far the game play feels a bit more balanced. I can’t say how the dark zone is. I’m still playing the first run on the story. My playing style is campaign and co-op.
I am not a strong PVP player.
So I’d give both games a high fun score for co-op. I hope a Division 3 will be out in the near future
Those are fighting words. I just prefer D1 due to healing station and my builds are on lock and are no longer gonna change
I recently have been working my way through several tom Clancy's games and your videos have definitely made the games much more enjoyable with your lore videos
I wonder if a future division 3 game would replace the dark zone pvp with faction pvp in the lightzone or make the whole map the dark zone. If that’s possible, then it would make sense in a lore aspect because one of dead drops comms called open gates, Keener said that the aftermath of the quarantine zone when he came back to NYC, he said that it was all gone or abandoned like the JTF gave up keeping up or something. The barricades , boats were also gone.
Personally if the whole map was a DZ, I wouldn't play.
I think In terms of endgame I like 2 better just because I feel there’s a lot more content to run with, especially after the black tusk invasion, which is good for me since I only really do single player
I disagree movement on div 2 is sluggish and clunky compare to div 1. You can tell they slowed the animations down on div 2 mainly because of the glitches and bugs that they had in the first game. The snowdrop engine can handle only so many actions at once.
I hope they gonna make division 3 someday with bigger open world so we can use vehicles like mad max style
My favourite thing about D2 is how when you capture a control point, NPCs will then go to scavenge for water food and components, and will sometimes have to compete with enemies to do so. They actually leave their base, go to an area to scavenge and return which also grants the control point resources.
If you want to see absolute, uncurable aidscancer, take a look at the comments section in the Extra Credits video about "The Division sucks because politics" video. I have never seen people defend psychos with flamethrowers and hardened prison escapees in my life. My favorite comments had to be the people saying how much they identified with the Cleaners, and that we shouldn't be killing the Rikers because "breaking out of prison isn't a capital offense."
NGN i have a question off-topic from the Div1 VS Div2 debate:
Q: Do you think the Division franchise should have done like World of Warcraft, as one mega game with constant updates and expansions, instead of a Division 2, Division 3, Division 4 etc?
My question is inspired by my friend who plays WOW way back in 2018 when Division 2 was just announced. He questioned the viability of having multiple games in the first place, saying that this is all just to make us spend more money. Massive could have just revamped the movement and combat for Div 1 to Div 2 standards, combined both worlds into a Manhattan Chapter and Washington Chapter, made ALL the content from both sides accessible to all players (i.e. Incursions, Raids, Summit, Underground, Survival, Last Stand, all Legendary Missions and whatever that may come out in Heartland).
Previously, I just laughed it off, but now with Division 3 rumors being active now, I start to see my friend's point, that just releasing more games is just a cash cow to them at our monetary expense. What do you think, would it be possible?
I got division 1 on xbox release day and loved us but i stopped playing b4 dlc come out. then i got division 2 release day played the story n left it at that till my sis got it so i booted it up again and got the dlc. i still love playing but now i have d1 for ps so playing through that at mo and loving it again.
i have over 2000 hours in div1 and 5000 hours in div2 , i know i have no life lol but i still go back to div1 its just more fun , i dont pvp , but they are both good games just whish they whould put more content in div 2 , your spot on in this vid , thanks buddy
I played both games extensively too and have made a comparison myself. Noticed there are things I agree with on your opinion and most things I disagreed were usually personal preference. Like I always say, both games have their own pros and cons, which are similar and/or different from the other. The division 1 and division 2 are like an apple and an orange, they're both fruits, but are totally different altogether.
After several adjustments/patches to the game, here's my updated opinion:
movement 1
combat 2
atmosphere 1
environment 2
builds 2
pvp 1
darkzone 1
endgame 2
story 1
*Legend: 1 = division 1, 2 = division 2
PS: I don't like pvp in both but if I were to choose, I just choose 1 :D
I didn't play D1, but maybe I will after watching this. I'm a solo player also, and mainly play games for story.
I think you will love it in my opinion. Everything feels so much dire and much more depressingly desperate in the first game. And the atmosphere? Chef's Kiss on that one over Div 2. One of my favorite aspects of Div 1 is Rick Valassi and his radio podcast "Wouldn't You Know It?." Try and read the books and comic if you can. Collapse of New York(During the Div1. Can be used in conjunction with the game following the story of April Kelleher but, not necessary). Broken Dawn(during and following the events of Div1. Leading to and bridging the gap between the events of Div2.) Extremis Malis(Comic) Another bridge element between the 2 games. Supposedly another official novel is being written and coming soon. Dont remember the name of it but there is enough content to keep you good for a long while. There is also a "World of Tom Clancy's The Division Encyclopedia." As well as a Art book of the Division. I know I am missing some other stuff but that would be a great start if you so chose to delve into the story further. I am a story guy so I just cant help myself. Good luck, Agent.
It's on sale in the Ubi store at the moment, go grab it. You won't be sorry.
I miss the builds i made in one. Made and amazing healer and and amazing explosives character. The skills felt simpler to understand for some reason. Hate snow though. Division 2 wins in environment for me
Well, it will be hard to play solo
@@niksobil best way to enjoy the story mode honestly. You can take your time and explore every nook and cranny at your own pace. Ymmv depending on your own play style. Which obviously is totally fine. Your money, your choice.
Thank you for making this video. I was getting sick from all the : "NAAAA DIVISION 1 IS SO MUCH BETTAH MATE WHAT A LOSER STOP PLAYIN DIV2 HAHAAA"
Me I just like Tom Clancy games in general Tom Clancy games are like a fine wine they get Better with age
Can you please make a longer version of your intro sound? Like 30 second or a minute...
An excellent comparison, thank you!
I love what you did about the last point...the story, but you were spitting facts the whole video honestly ✨👍
I have to say that, while I love, love, love the Division 1, I don’t jump into it as much as I do the Division 2. It’s the builds, loot & challenges for me. I prefer the Division 2 interface more than the Division 1. But the story &, yes, atmosphere is lacking for me in the Division 2. In regards to the world & storytelling of the Division 2, there wasn’t enough.
F up
Mission variations in the second was by far the best thing they could’ve done. Got so sick of over playing the same missions in the div (D1 is my fav ps4 game chill) the fact you can run a mission in D2 AND play it like 2-3 times in a different way was so awesome
Nothing will ever beat roaming the Dark Zone at night with a blizzard obscuring you view, and you camping an extraction point hoping nobody rolls up on your squad. It was just flat out amazingly intense.
I lived in Cali my whole life… it’s the same theme as Washington summer, I’ve always wanted to go into a cold climate and touch snow hahaha this is the closest ima get for the time being and they nailed it. The attention to detail is insane! In The Division 1
I enjoyed both. I love atmosphere and feel of div 1 but I left very early when it was buggy. Div 2 is my most played game on ps4. I love they built on all the rpg elements and the first time I reached max level and the black tusk invade was soo good. Then the expansion I had fun to only thing they I don't like content wise in div2 is seasons, the tedious chores never appealed to me.
What I love about div 1 is the feel but actually playing hours upon hours and still enjoying myself definitely div 2 (I did come back and play all the div 1 DLC content and still prefer div 2 content EXECEPT survival was KING)
Also to note I never cared about pvp I loved the idea of the DZ but even in div 1 I always thought pvp was never their focus just a cool lore addition that allowed pvp.
Im a super solo player. And d2 has a ton to chew on.
If d1 isnt super punishing and things to do, like side missions, i might give it a run.
Super good impression for 2 tho walking out and seeing so much life.
Seeing d1 as a dead city would be a nice addition to the palette.
Regarding combat, D2 has way more spongier bosses than D1, especially on Legendary and Heroic. But the biggest issue in D2 is survivability. In Legendary and Heroic, the player is way to frail. And if you are "lucky" to encounter some of those grenade spammers, it just gets way to frustrating.
I quit playing D2 a few months ago. It's just too repetitive, same missions, same recycled content. I only jump into Survival in D1 once in a while.
Would you recommend the game for a solo, never on a party, rather blow teammates with several grenade than being part of their strategies, kind of player like myself?
Which one? I predominantly played both of these solo. But TD2 was certainly a little easier solo.
@@NGN Any of them really, i'll give it a try on TD2 since its on discount for the Ubisoft E3 event. Thanks.
They really should have used some stronger visual filters and effects in D2 to convey the heat as apposed to how well the cold NYC winter came across.
The Division 2 endgame is way better I feel. With all the directives you can toggle it really makes it feel like more of a survival game too.
You’re officially my Tom Clancy channel from now on. I don’t remember liking Division 2 as much, but I loved 1. I feel like I should revisit. Wanna get pumped for Heartland
I played a fair amount of Division 1, but it got too iffy at some point and I enjoyed it less. Division 2 on the other hand, I played with much more, and still play now. So I guess I prefer Division 2...though it could use some improvements with solo playing..
Pvp and DZ are really broken and bad as you said. The main problem is that everybody's using meta builds, so you won't really see any build variety or whatsoever. Just went to the DZ today, inspected my gankers and all of them had either Famas or Lady Death meta builds...basically, going there with your unique shotgun or lmg build is suicide, not to mention that if you're not in a group or with a friend you'll have your butt spanked.
div 2 i played far more but i do miss that atmosphere 1 had
dark and empty robed of hope yet still here and there with the right music playing at right part i still felt hope and the power to fight
1 had a unique take in games on a Apocalypse where the government was still there fighting ever on with world outside still there if not in a great place but there
I've played both (2 before 1) and honestly I've enjoyed 2 a lot more
I do enjoy the storyline in the first Division game. It was a bit darker, we still didn't know what was going on. Although if you had to just buy one game, I'd go with 2 because you can play in both DC and New York with the expansion.
In the division 1 you could smash windows even make holes in concrete walls if you shoot enough at the same spot. I loved how you could shoot stuff and it would break. None of that in div 2. Maybe its just me but that disapointed me hard ruind my immersion. In div 2 everything is just static even car tiers.
To be honest I think division 1 is still the better game mainly because it has replayable content and what does division 2 have fk all except for the summit which I don't even play cause it's not worth it I've actually more or less quit playing division 2 and gone back to division 1. Love the video looking forward to the next one
I wish these videos were available in podcast form so I could listen to them when driving for work.
I absolutely love both but division 2 as a whole takes it for me. Your absolutely right about the environment though. If they put division 2 game and put it on division 1 new york it would be perfect
When Division 2 came out i used to say "This is what Division 1 was supposed to be". But what done is done.
Both, yes, but ideally if we can get a game with Division 1 depth-like story with Division 2 (or better) combat and movement - I'll take it.
both games are fun but I recently bought div2 and I honestly prefer it over div1
You think DV 2 is better than 1. Right? I bought DV 2 recently but didin't play yet and I wonder which is better: The Division 2 or Breakpoint Wildlands? Should I buy Wildlands?
@@yucelyukselmert6614 not sure, in my opinion I never liked wildlands but it’s all about preference
@@Hghgghg thenk you.
I haven't played Div 2 in a year. I just hated the things they changed. I really feel like the could've updated the graphics, smoothed out the bugs and we would have had a great game.
The combat felt stiff and suffocating. I may pick it back up again because the same thing happened to me when I played Div 1. Hated it at first waited a year or two came back and loved it.
Which game should I get if I’m a call of duty player, I like team death match and other game modes that are like that