Well, it is a problem with marketing. Remember everything had an i(something)? Remember everything had HD on the label? I don't know what 4K here means but you have to remember this would be a prosumer product where not everyone cares about science
I saw someone saying in a review, we all have used HD and HD+. SSL has come up with 4K. and i'm sure he meant better clear quality by that. lmao. I did leave the comment there telling him what it means.
Thank you. I stumbled across this review after doing a bunch of research on this unit. reviewers everywhere can learn a lot from you sir. Thank you for the time, effort and detail you put into this. I'm sold. Keep up the good work!
I have a raw audio clip with the Sennheiser MKH416 if you want to check it out. Feel free to DM me on Twitter. I sent it to him when I got mine last month, haha.
I agree. Normally when somebody "EQ's" an SM7B I find myself simply preferring the standard sound. I think I just really like the flat sound of the SM7B. But the 4K mode on this interface seems to work surprisingly well with the SM7B.
its the 9K you want, SSL9000 series is the one with good mic pres not the 4000 series which I think where standard amek, if you want that the SSL 6 and audiant interfaces have better versions of the Amek or 4K sound, the 4K on the SSL box is just a sim like version..the real deal can handle very hot signals and sound far better.
Hey Bandrew, just wanted to say I bought the SSL based on this video, like 2 years ago, and it's been absolutely fantastic! As you point out, the signal you get is very clean and I've recommended it to a number of people since. The usb/input mix knob is also very handy. So, if anyone's looking to buy this thing, it's still well worth the money.
Thank you so much for the update ,I love hearing these long term updates good or bad. but I'm thrilled to hear it's been working well for you. Hope you get years more use out of it. Happy recording.
I bought mine last week, I cannot believe how good it sounds. It’s worth it’s price alone as just a DA converter for listen to music. Seriously, I’ve heard numerous high end interfaces and this equals them in terms of sound quality, no doubt about it.
I do a radio program and have used many of the interfaces and microphones over the years. I now use the SSL 2 with a Shure sm7b. I've used the Shure sm7b for years. You are right about the 4K switch I love the sound of my Shure sm7b with it on, it is a great combination. Thanks for your reviews, you do a great job.
I ordered one to use with my SM7B. I was having 2nd thoughts until I watched your video. Thanks for putting my mind at ease. I can't wait to press that 4K button.
My Focusrite audio interface shut down after 12 years. I loved that you did a test with SM7B since that is my main microphone for vocal recording, made me order a SSL2+! All love - subscribed! 💙
I've been using one for a little while, and it runs laps around my previous gen1 Scarlett. The pre amp quality is amazing, the DI guitars sounded terrible and were extremely noisy, but now I can actually use amp sims... and the 4k option is usable in a lot of scenarios, the headphone outputs are clean and much louder (where my Scarlett gen1 was always at almost maximum, this one stays between 1 - 3 with my ash m40x). Knobs are much better, the meters are 1000x better than the halos. USB/input monitoring is a godsend, individual phantom power is also very appreciated. I always held off upgrading because a lot of people say that pre amps and interfaces are 1% of the sound, but goddamn that old ass Scarlett needed to go.
Awesome video. My SSL2 is going to be here Tuesday and Ironically I picked up an NT1 that will be here Monday. You demonstrated precisely what I can expect when they arrive. Sounds clean and nearly noiseless.
I love mine, think it sounds great, and is super easy to work with. I wish it wasn't so big, and that the buttons were a bitt nicer, but I'm okay with that if they freed up funds to emphasize preamp quality. An extra headphone jack in the front would be nice, for sure.
I was so jealous when you got yours weeks ago. I’m super stoked you’re liking it though. I sleep a bit easier knowing you’re connecting your monitors properly because the daisy chain method you described before gave me heart palpitations. 🤮
oh man today i bought ssl2 it amazing!!! iv got audient id4 and i cant compare them ssl2 is so clean so (radio ready sounding) cant believe...regards and thanks for your great videos...
I'm watching this video in June of 2023. As I'm about to pick up one of these interfaces for about $170. Very well delivered, thorough and informative. A tip of the hat to you sir. Thanks for the info.
I love this thing I'm so excited there is an interface that's by an industry standard company, but that doesn't make me go bankrupt! I am definitely upgrading from my Steinberg UR22 MKII even though that is a great interface and it has served me well for years. Super excited for this guy.
Watching him to sad face in 2x speed was amazing. 😂 (I do not generally speed through your videos, but this time it was worth it. Also, I only sped through the pros and cons lists.)
I just got this as my first professional voice over setup, I really like how simple it is to use, and set up. though I'm not so sure why there is hiss in my audio. further learning is required. u.u
No lie I am soooo happy I got this interface definitely an upgrade for my set up definitely give my AT4040 more power for voice acting and listening it through my headphones definitely hear audio very nicely love the power through this puppy
So I record rap at a studio near by. Great quality. I asked my engineer what he felt about home recording cuz I'm a skeptic. I feel like my home will never sound as good as a big studio. Then he suggested the SSL2 as well as the Sm7b because of my aggressive style and to my surprise this video shows BOTH. So I'm kinda sold on it. Lol i would definitely get the cloudlifter though lol subscribed
You might really not need the cloudlifter with this interface, though - especially if you're more on the aggressive side and not whispering quietly at your mic (and SM7B really wouldn't be the mic to go to for whispering, I think). The notion that pushing your gain to the limit introduces additional noise seems to have been debunked a while ago (at least when it comes to most devices).
The current offer of four of their native plugins on perpetual license along with the interface makes it an absolute no brainer for me. Great review, by the way.
The mic preamps on the SSL2 are astonishingly amazing! Just did an A/B comparison with the new Audient ID14 MK2 and there is no comparison. The SSL 2+ sounds clearer and beefier and more in your face. Just a totally different tone and character. It also has a more powerful preamp at 62DB VS 58DB on the ID14. The SSL also has a slight bit less noise floor. I had to crank the gain all the way up on the ID14 with my SM7B and still didn’t sound loud enough than at 9 o’clock with the SSL. The SSL also uses Neutrik mic connectors VS Amphenol in the ID14. Not to mention the RCA and Midi connections which the ID14 doesn’t have. You also don’t need the iD mixer software and It’s also cheaper in price. Needless to say, highly disappointed in the new iD14. I wanted to like it and thought Audient would be good since everyone speaks so highly of the preamps which is why I got it but I can’t justify keeping it. The SSL has spoiled me.
Hey man, I'm literally about to get either an SSL 2+ or ID14 Mk2. Mainly doing voice (with SM 58 and 7b), but also some guitar. In many comparative reviews, the ID14 is praised bc of the preamps and *lower* noise floor than the SSL2+. You seem to have a different impression - so which one has a higher sound floor? I'm a beginner, could you perhaps tell me what the differences between the two will mean for me in real life? Also, will I absolutely need the ADAT if I want to record to my recorder or connect a mixer at some later stage? And overall, what would you say is the main pro of the Audient? A few words would be highly appreciated, thanks a lot!
Agree with you on all the Pros and Cons. I currently have the Mackie Onyx Producer 2/2 which has been great nut thinking of upgrading to the SSL2 since it's 32 Bit, USB-C and the 4K switch sounds pretty sweet. Headphone Input on the back and no On/Off switch I don't like. Thanks. Excellent video.
Omg dude I hit the like button and subscribed when you threw that box 🤣. I don't know who you are but, I'm now rocking with you on gear reviews. Nice to meet you
Hell yeah! Was waiting for this review! Thank you. (Pff..don't ever apologize for long reviews.) THANK YOU SO MUCH for telling me what you thought about the PREAMPS vs the MOTU m2/m4, but in the end that matters to me more than an ON/OFF button, or loopback functionality.
Great review! I just got my SSL2. I love it so far. I use an SM7B and agree that the 4k brings that mic to life. I think it is all you need if you work alone or want to make simple vocal, bass, or guitar recordings. I compared it while mixing with the Apollo Twin MKII and honestly didn't notice much of a difference at all given that the AD/DA specs are quite a bit better on the Apollo. So in other words, I think the SSL2/SSL2+ has a good enough AD/DA to mix with as well as make high quality recordings.
@@Cdssonyx5 Hmmm that all depends. SSL2 or 2+: If you like a more modern clean sound with clarity and already have great VSTS to mix with. Also way less expensive Apollo Twin: If you like a warmer sound right out of the gate and love to print your effects right away and also if you like UAD effects. Both do well with AD/DA conversion and sound great for recording or mixing. The Apollo specs with better converter numbers But i honestly didn't notice really any difference when mixing. But as stated up above...when recording, the Apollo is warmer and the SSL2 is more clean. The advantage of clean is you can still make it warm with saturation, compression, or EQ. So what you print is always clean and ready for your sculpting. the advantage of warm is if that is exactly the sound you are going for. You can always EQ it to sound more hifi. i did notice that with the SSL2 I don't really have to low cut my vocals. I use an SM7B and leave it flat. Other mics may vary.
@@Cdssonyx5 If you decide to go with the Apollo mk2 I have one that is in perfect condition with a lot of extra UAD plugins. I haven't put it up on ebay yet. i'll probably put it up in a week,
Both do really well but I only track one thing at a time. If I remember correctly both do 1.1 milliseconds. However , the apollo does that while using plugins at the same time in the recording process with unison technology. But so far I haven’t had any latency issues with either. I always use low latency mode in whatever DAW I use.
Have one with an sm7b. Music producer and I engineer for people as well as myself, Pretty great for my set up and style over all. The one thing everyone complaining about... I have mine routed into a usb3 port with led power switches, so no power switch needed on the unit ;)
I’ve noticed you’re very intentional about your audience , I love that. You obviously have some expensive professional gear in your studio but for the target of this channel you consistently discuss budget friendly, bang for buck , beginner - pro consumer level gear. Awesome work. . . . Still gonna need a full review on your high end studio gear ! UA 610 mkii I noticed?? And that Neve looking device?! And that tape real looking thing ! Please :)
Tim. Thank you very much for the kind words. That really means the world to me. I love the high end stuff, but it's very rarely exciting to me because you buy it and almost always know it's going to work and sound great. With budget stuff, you'll stumble across a lot of trash, but then you'll find an amazing diamond in the rough. And absolutely I'll have the LA610, WA73EQ, BAE1073, Neve 1073LB, API 512c, Arturia 8 Pre, U Audio X8 and UA Twin X...That's just the outboard gear. The mics I have coming up are going to be insane but I have to mix in the affordable stuff as well. Thank you again Tim! Appreciate ya very much.
Podcastage wow!! More thumbs up from me, can’t wait to see your channel grow , it will and you deserve it, the high end series is gonna be awesome it’s hard to find good reviews like yours with any gear. And I love the diamond in the rough concept ..it’s a competitive market indeed. Best pre owned gems?? Could be a series/playlist down the road. With Your channel content and style of delivery + how thorough your reviews ....endless content ! 🙏🏽
Tim Aka TAllent oh I have a series planned for out of production items. Have a bunch of them already lined up. I just need to find the right time to record and release them. I have some coooool ones. Like the original Rode NT1, the American SM7, the SM5B, a bunch of the predecessors to the blue snowball. I’m so excited to eventually do them.
Thanks for the great review! Was looking for a good audio interface to improve the sound on my RUclips covers. I think I have found the right one. You've got a new sub :)
I have purchased one of these and am very excited for it to arrive. I will admit I am frightened by the headphone output impedance being so high. It is high enough that I expect it will cause some frequency response issues undesirable for monitoring on more sensitive headphones. Great review as always!
As a voice over guy I use my SSL-2 for Source Connect sessions with a vintage C414eb P48, it sounds great. The reason I use it for these sessions is because I have SC Pro on my laptop and SC Standard on my studio PC. My daily gear is an OC818 into a Neve 1073 and NTG5 into a Grace M101, but the sound of the SSL-2 is so good it could replace everything in my studio.
I just purchased the SSL 2 and couldn't be happier with my purchase. The preamps have a little character and I like that. I've gotten mixed reactions from peers but I personally like the sound, and afterall it is MY ears that will be doing the listening and my brain doing the mixing. I am a bit upset however that I chose to buy my LDC based on Sweetwater's suggestion that I would need a Cloudlifter if I purchased the SM7B and due to the gain range of the preamps of THIS unit (I had a Presonus Audiobox USB before) I could've been completely happy with the SM7B. But I wound up with a Warm Audio WA47jr and it has a similarly dark sound. So it's all good...saved a $100 too. I'm not too upset I guess! lol
If they all meet your I/O needs, I'd probably go for the SSL due to the reputation of SSL alone. If you done like it, I'd probably go with the Focusrite. I have the 2i4 and made many songs on it. No real complaints about it other than the noisy pres and that it can't support an SM7B mic.
I'm guitar player with amp sim and I'm thinking to upgrade my old focusrite solo GEN 1 due to audio quality and converter . I don't know if SSL2 or Motu M2. will make big differences?. I'm not expert with audio interface measurements. however, both of units " SSL2 or Motu m2 is expensive in my country and I don't know which one I should get?
It's definitely a cool interface. I can't say most of the features would benefit me personally, because I've never had the knack for music (you sure seem to have it). But it seems to have some stellar pre-amps and the price isn't bad, considering the features and quality. Great job.
It seems like all of the more recent audio interfaces have solved the issue of clipping with an electric guitar that a lot of the earlier audio interfaces had. How does the 4k switch compare to the Focusrite's air button? Does the Focusrite's button also add distortion into the signal? I know this interface has a lower EIN than the Motu but I would say for regular podcasting and recording choosing between the Motu and this would be quite the decision.
Honestly I've been so lost and wanted something with a great preamp and great A/D that is not as pricey as a UA apollo so, given SSL's street cred, I'm sold on this one, thank you for reviewing it :)
Nice video - there had not been many videos showing what people want to see - a range of industry pro mics and its output sound and capabilities - although you get paid for views - I’d like to say thanks 😁
I generally really don't give much credit to on-board "features" and "fx" that seem to never amount to anything more than cheesy gimmicks, but that 4K did absolutely work on the SM7B. The bass as well really took advantage of it letting the high end come through. (Though from a practical view, I'm not sure if the bass upper frequencies wouldn't just get lost/cut in a complete mix anyways. Save it for the solo I suppose :D)
I'm still torn between the SSL2+ and the MOTU M4! Anyone with thoughts outside my own? 😂🤷🏻♂️ **Update** I decided to go with the Motu M4. It's hard to beat the features at that price point. While the SSL2+ i'm sure is amazing, it has some design choices that won't work for me. One simple yet major one is having the headphone inputs in the back of the unit. I don't think you could go wrong with either of these interfaces.
And? I'm curious about your experience because I'm facing the same decision: Motu M2/4 or SSL2+? I use a Mac with Logic and Cubase and tons of VST's (Arturia and Native Instruments, mainly). I read about some stability issues, hence my question. Thank you in advance for sharing your findings.
@God Loves You I ordered neither of them actually. I'm in Belgium and apparently the Motu is kind of hard to get hold of for the moment (out of stock in most European online stores). I reviewed my options and decided to spend a little more and went for the Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen. The people from Thomann, Germany (which is a very reliable store) drew me over the line actually. We had a phone call and they assured me that if the Focusrite doesn't meet my expectations, I can swap it for the Motu, when it's back in stock. This sounded like a fair deal to me and so now I'm impatiently waiting for it to arrive... .:-) Cheers, Gert
Good afternoon Sir, I'm replacing my old apogee one audio interface. Which out of these two audio interfaces should I get for my home studio, Solid State Logic SSL2+ or the Motu M4?
I just commented above that the gain on the SSL2 isn't enough for a Shure SM58, but it is working out fine with condenser mics, for remote broadcasts - which is why I bought the SSL2. But I also had a Motu M4 which I sent back, and I almost NEVER send anything back. If it's a choice between the two, I wouldn't even hesitate. Pick up the SSL2 and don't look back.
SSL 2+ is the best product with 2 instrument inputs and 2 headphone outputs. And these other features. I prefer the SSL 2 because I dont need 2 outputs. I would have bought an Audient interface but the Evo8 isnt on the market. I could have bought an Apogee One but I didn't find anyone using the Apogee One with Windows 10. So I was thinking maybe it will not work well. I am using a Daw (FL Studio) and I want record an electric guitar and a mic.
I luv this device.... SSL are the masters of preamps and with a small formfactor like this, it is getting just better for a small speakbooth..... I like the fact, that the front has no plugs.... make the desk look cleaner. Personal pref..... great review.
Hi, Great reviews and love your ending punching in the face :) BUT... I really don't understand why you seem to highly recommend the SSL2+ over the Motu M-series. Your arguments are: - the preamps of 62dB gain range agains MOTU's 60 dB gain range - SMALL DIFFERENCE - EIN of -130.5 VS -129.5 - VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE - Analog 4K switch which is a gimmick and something that can easily be reproduced with plug-ins or doesn't matter at all - AD / DA converters which, based on plenty of reviews don't look that different quality wise in both interfaces (I actually see more people advocating that MOTU converters are MUCH better than SSL's ones) On the other hand, MOTU wins regarding : - Dynamic range outputs (120dB VS 112dB) - Round trip latency (SSL performs really bad when compared to MOTU - based on gearslutz.com tests and testimonies) - Dynamic Range Mic Input (115.5 dB(A) MOTU VS 110.7 dB(A) SSL) - BIG DIFFERENCE - Mic Input impedance (3kOhm VS 1.2 kOhm SSL) - HUGE DIFFERENCE Honestly, what I see here is that SSL surpasses "SLIGHTLY" the MOTU in some aspects, but the MOTU crushes the SSL regarding other features. That's why I really don't understand your conclusion. Would you care to go deeper in your analysis please? I am currently struggling between this 2 interfaces and every single opinion of someone that owns both devices would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Hey Hugo. Not here to justify any interface but during my research the MOTU has a lot of stability issues. Mainly due to it's drivers if your on PC. Some MOTU's have even been returned due to the led screen not working at all from new. Others have reported dropouts in audio.... again probably due to drivers. Just some food for thought if you're deciding on an interface. I would have liked the MOTU though not convinced from owners. I have placed an order on the SSL 2+ as I am attracted by not only it's pre's but also it's AD converters. Tests reveal they are miles ahead of other interfaces in it's class. Though at the end of the day, you can't go wrong with most interfaces in this price range. Just not the M-Audio. Those pre's have a noise floor that goes through the roof.
@@frankymino8773 You hit on exactly why I have zero interest in MOTU gear. Far too many bad experiences with them over the past twenty years. When they work, they're usually pretty great. When they don't, trying to get them functional is like having a root canal while sitting on a red hot spike while Britney Spears sings in your ear without autotune.
Hi nice reviews!! I also watched the one about the MOTU M2. Strictly speaking as a guitar player, and only thinking about the Hi-z inputs when pluging guitars, would you recommend one over the other of this two interfaces? Thanks!!!
Actualy the SSL 2 and the SSL2+ got killer converters..Kinda on par with the Motu M2 and M4..Those 2 compagnies dropped the bomb on the 1k Interfaces..
I was curious so i opened the SSL2 ... As usual PCB's wont differ so if you're a bit handy and can operate a Soldering Iron you can at least get the RCA outputs without much hazzle and around 80$ cheaper
Hy! Sorry to bother you, i have a question regarding the SSL 2: when it goes to Audio quality, does it makes any change to the Sound/Quality? I have a SSL 2 that is connected thru a Laptop at a Maui 28 G3, but for me it does not change the quality of the Sound, do not hear a real difference. Does it makes any sense to use this device, only when i listen to music? ( i´m not using any Mic or recording at all). Thanks in advance.
Nice to see quality amps that can drive dynamic without needing a Cloudlifter or Fethead. SSL2 is great opton for voice same amps less money and uneeded features.
The problem that PCM is not active all the time. I had make an working around. But after all that 4k button with my neumann ksm 105 black made my recordings sounded nicer. The detail it gives sounded natural and even I mix on it is much easier to mix.
Amazing review as always. I hope people don't get the "4k" confused as a "hit this and get crystal clear 3840 x 2160 4k Ultra High Definition signal."
hah
For sure they will :facepalm:
Well, it is a problem with marketing. Remember everything had an i(something)? Remember everything had HD on the label? I don't know what 4K here means but you have to remember this would be a prosumer product where not everyone cares about science
@@ET2carbon 4K refers to SSL 4 thousand series serious mixers back in the day (the '70's) hence 4K.
I saw someone saying in a review, we all have used HD and HD+. SSL has come up with 4K. and i'm sure he meant better clear quality by that. lmao. I did leave the comment there telling him what it means.
Thank you. I stumbled across this review after doing a bunch of research on this unit. reviewers everywhere can learn a lot from you sir. Thank you for the time, effort and detail you put into this. I'm sold. Keep up the good work!
That 4K analogue sounds nice on the SM7B. I was skeptical, but I stand corrected.
I have a raw audio clip with the Sennheiser MKH416 if you want to check it out. Feel free to DM me on Twitter. I sent it to him when I got mine last month, haha.
I agree. Normally when somebody "EQ's" an SM7B I find myself simply preferring the standard sound. I think I just really like the flat sound of the SM7B. But the 4K mode on this interface seems to work surprisingly well with the SM7B.
I used the 4K on the RE20 also. Sounds great. Put away my cloudlifter.
its the 9K you want, SSL9000 series is the one with good mic pres not the 4000 series which I think where standard amek, if you want that the SSL 6 and audiant interfaces have better versions of the Amek or 4K sound, the 4K on the SSL box is just a sim like version..the real deal can handle very hot signals and sound far better.
Ssl4000 had the worse pres, its the 9k we want
the "audio gets loud" count down was very beneficial to the quality of the video. Thanks man
Hey Bandrew, just wanted to say I bought the SSL based on this video, like 2 years ago, and it's been absolutely fantastic! As you point out, the signal you get is very clean and I've recommended it to a number of people since. The usb/input mix knob is also very handy. So, if anyone's looking to buy this thing, it's still well worth the money.
Thank you so much for the update ,I love hearing these long term updates good or bad. but I'm thrilled to hear it's been working well for you. Hope you get years more use out of it. Happy recording.
Sold by rme for this one!😂
I bought mine last week, I cannot believe how good it sounds. It’s worth it’s price alone as just a DA converter for listen to music. Seriously, I’ve heard numerous high end interfaces and this equals them in terms of sound quality, no doubt about it.
" just a DA converter for listen to music" what do you mean here, what would you play?
@@AI-Consultant I use it for recording, but it’s also great for listening to music through from my computer 🙂
I do a radio program and have used many of the interfaces and microphones over the years. I now use the SSL 2 with a Shure sm7b. I've used the Shure sm7b for years. You are right about the 4K switch I love the sound of my Shure sm7b with it on, it is a great combination. Thanks for your reviews, you do a great job.
I ordered one to use with my SM7B. I was having 2nd thoughts until I watched your video. Thanks for putting my mind at ease. I can't wait to press that 4K button.
Ed Sullivan I was thinking both
hello, can I use +48v and 4k together with sm7b
How about do a shoot out between SSL 2 motu M2 and ID14
Kyron yes please!!!
Yes please
Looking out for it, please
Same, interested also into this information
Bison voice: YES! YES!
My Focusrite audio interface shut down after 12 years. I loved that you did a test with SM7B since that is my main microphone for vocal recording, made me order a SSL2+! All love - subscribed! 💙
Dude, so sick when you had all the tracks together. Great tone and playing.
This completely sold me. I bought before the video even ended!
I've been using one for a little while, and it runs laps around my previous gen1 Scarlett. The pre amp quality is amazing, the DI guitars sounded terrible and were extremely noisy, but now I can actually use amp sims... and the 4k option is usable in a lot of scenarios, the headphone outputs are clean and much louder (where my Scarlett gen1 was always at almost maximum, this one stays between 1 - 3 with my ash m40x). Knobs are much better, the meters are 1000x better than the halos. USB/input monitoring is a godsend, individual phantom power is also very appreciated.
I always held off upgrading because a lot of people say that pre amps and interfaces are 1% of the sound, but goddamn that old ass Scarlett needed to go.
Liked for the loud audio warnings. Much love man! Many thanks! 👏🏻👏🏻
Awesome video. My SSL2 is going to be here Tuesday and Ironically I picked up an NT1 that will be here Monday. You demonstrated precisely what I can expect when they arrive. Sounds clean and nearly noiseless.
I love mine, think it sounds great, and is super easy to work with. I wish it wasn't so big, and that the buttons were a bitt nicer, but I'm okay with that if they freed up funds to emphasize preamp quality. An extra headphone jack in the front would be nice, for sure.
I was so jealous when you got yours weeks ago. I’m super stoked you’re liking it though. I sleep a bit easier knowing you’re connecting your monitors properly because the daisy chain method you described before gave me heart palpitations. 🤮
@@Podcastage 🤣🤣
Out of all companies who make audio gear knobs & buttons, the only ones I like are the SSL, Toft or Trident.
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You can't tell the difference to a Focusrite Scarlett. I'm sorry.
oh man today i bought ssl2 it amazing!!! iv got audient id4 and i cant compare them ssl2 is so clean so (radio ready sounding) cant believe...regards and thanks for your great videos...
Did you not hesitate between SSL and MOTU M2/M4? I'm having that problem right now, also being an ID4 user.
@@Hugmir dont know how motu sounds, didnt have a chance to try it...but ssl2 is really good...regards
@@Hugmir didnt try motu but ssl2 is great...
That thing sounds sweet! And what a good combination it makes with the NT-1.
NT-1 has never sounded better, they are a great Studio package from Aussie boys Rode.
I'm watching this video in June of 2023. As I'm about to pick up one of these interfaces for about $170. Very well delivered, thorough and informative. A tip of the hat to you sir. Thanks for the info.
The vocal strip and drum strip plugins as an add are also amazing.
I love this thing I'm so excited there is an interface that's by an industry standard company, but that doesn't make me go bankrupt! I am definitely upgrading from my Steinberg UR22 MKII even though that is a great interface and it has served me well for years. Super excited for this guy.
I hear the DSP on the MKii is amazing. Is that true?
You literally have the worst interface right now... anything will be a upgrade from what you have now
That 4K switch sounds beautiful!
I'm curiously waiting for getting my SSL 2+ delivered next week.
Thank you so much for your constant work to keep us informed 😊
Thank you for the very detailed review! It left me with no questions left at all!
Watching him to sad face in 2x speed was amazing. 😂 (I do not generally speed through your videos, but this time it was worth it. Also, I only sped through the pros and cons lists.)
6:28 Don't exactly know what a "mirophone" is, but it sounds interesting...
You must be uncultured. It’s a phone based on the paintings of Miro: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Miró
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@@Podcastage nerdy painter reference win
The SSL2+ sounds fantastic. Mine is on the way and I can't wait to start using it. Thank you!!!
I just got this for my Shure SM7B, thanks man!
Heck yes! I can't wait to hear what you think!
@@Podcastage I've been fiddling with it for the last few hours. It's a big upgrade over how I sounded with my old mixer, that's for sure!
That’s so great to hear man!
I'm gonna buy a SM7B and the SSL2+ as well. Do you need a cloudlifter or feathed to increase the gain or not required with the SSL2+????
@@MahDryBread
can u record 16bit 48000 with it ?
Had mine (2+) for two weeks now, and LOVE IT. Plays nice with my other SSL gear.
Great review. All reviews should follow this format. Time stamps are great too!
OMG!! Finally a reviewer I can actually listen to and i'm glad the SSL2+ brought us together!! I already pre ordered the thing!
Did you get the SSL2+ already? Thinking of purchasing it.
Danke!
I just got this as my first professional voice over setup, I really like how simple it is to use, and set up. though I'm not so sure why there is hiss in my audio. further learning is required. u.u
No lie I am soooo happy I got this interface definitely an upgrade for my set up definitely give my AT4040 more power for voice acting and listening it through my headphones definitely hear audio very nicely love the power through this puppy
Thank You " Podcastage " , for your informative and music talent !! - Merci " Podcastage " , pour votre talent informatif et musical !!
So I record rap at a studio near by. Great quality. I asked my engineer what he felt about home recording cuz I'm a skeptic. I feel like my home will never sound as good as a big studio. Then he suggested the SSL2 as well as the Sm7b because of my aggressive style and to my surprise this video shows BOTH. So I'm kinda sold on it. Lol i would definitely get the cloudlifter though lol subscribed
You might really not need the cloudlifter with this interface, though - especially if you're more on the aggressive side and not whispering quietly at your mic (and SM7B really wouldn't be the mic to go to for whispering, I think). The notion that pushing your gain to the limit introduces additional noise seems to have been debunked a while ago (at least when it comes to most devices).
The current offer of four of their native plugins on perpetual license along with the interface makes it an absolute no brainer for me. Great review, by the way.
The mic preamps on the SSL2 are astonishingly amazing! Just did an A/B comparison with the new Audient ID14 MK2 and there is no comparison. The SSL 2+ sounds clearer and beefier and more in your face. Just a totally different tone and character. It also has a more powerful preamp at 62DB VS 58DB on the ID14. The SSL also has a slight bit less noise floor. I had to crank the gain all the way up on the ID14 with my SM7B and still didn’t sound loud enough than at 9 o’clock with the SSL. The SSL also uses Neutrik mic connectors VS Amphenol in the ID14. Not to mention the RCA and Midi connections which the ID14 doesn’t have. You also don’t need the iD mixer software and It’s also cheaper in price. Needless to say, highly disappointed in the new iD14. I wanted to like it and thought Audient would be good since everyone speaks so highly of the preamps which is why I got it but I can’t justify keeping it. The SSL has spoiled me.
Hey man, I'm literally about to get either an SSL 2+ or ID14 Mk2. Mainly doing voice (with SM 58 and 7b), but also some guitar. In many comparative reviews, the ID14 is praised bc of the preamps and *lower* noise floor than the SSL2+. You seem to have a different impression - so which one has a higher sound floor? I'm a beginner, could you perhaps tell me what the differences between the two will mean for me in real life? Also, will I absolutely need the ADAT if I want to record to my recorder or connect a mixer at some later stage? And overall, what would you say is the main pro of the Audient? A few words would be highly appreciated, thanks a lot!
Agree with you on all the Pros and Cons. I currently have the Mackie Onyx Producer 2/2 which has been great nut thinking of upgrading to the SSL2 since it's 32 Bit, USB-C and the 4K switch sounds pretty sweet. Headphone Input on the back and no On/Off switch I don't like. Thanks. Excellent video.
Just bought one for my RE20 an damn, that sounds so goddamn sick with the 4K feature and the Yellowtec VIP1. Thanks for reviewing it!
I like the longer videos feel like I got more detail about the product and make it easier whether I should buy it or not
Absolutely amazing review, so clear and concise, and extremely thorough. Glad I stumbled upon your channel
Thanks so much max, really appreciate it!
Love this interface. Just got the 2plus in yesterday. Plan to track drums all day today...
Omg dude I hit the like button and subscribed when you threw that box 🤣. I don't know who you are but, I'm now rocking with you on gear reviews. Nice to meet you
Hell yeah! Was waiting for this review! Thank you. (Pff..don't ever apologize for long reviews.) THANK YOU SO MUCH for telling me what you thought about the PREAMPS vs the MOTU m2/m4, but in the end that matters to me more than an ON/OFF button, or loopback functionality.
The on/off. loopback. meters. all selling points for the Motu.
@@Podcastage Definitely, but I'll take the preamps of the SLL2. Thanks again.
Great review! I just got my SSL2. I love it so far. I use an SM7B and agree that the 4k brings that mic to life. I think it is all you need if you work alone or want to make simple vocal, bass, or guitar recordings. I compared it while mixing with the Apollo Twin MKII and honestly didn't notice much of a difference at all given that the AD/DA specs are quite a bit better on the Apollo. So in other words, I think the SSL2/SSL2+ has a good enough AD/DA to mix with as well as make high quality recordings.
do you think it's worth gettin over the Apollo mk2.
@@Cdssonyx5 Hmmm that all depends.
SSL2 or 2+:
If you like a more modern clean sound with clarity and already have great VSTS to mix with.
Also way less expensive
Apollo Twin:
If you like a warmer sound right out of the gate and love to print your effects right away and also if you like UAD effects.
Both do well with AD/DA conversion and sound great for recording or mixing.
The Apollo specs with better converter numbers But i honestly didn't notice really any difference when mixing. But as stated up above...when recording, the Apollo is warmer and the SSL2 is more clean. The advantage of clean is you can still make it warm with saturation, compression, or EQ. So what you print is always clean and ready for your sculpting.
the advantage of warm is if that is exactly the sound you are going for. You can always EQ it to sound more hifi. i did notice that with the SSL2 I don't really have to low cut my vocals. I use an SM7B and leave it flat. Other mics may vary.
@@Cdssonyx5 If you decide to go with the Apollo mk2 I have one that is in perfect condition with a lot of extra UAD plugins. I haven't put it up on ebay yet. i'll probably put it up in a week,
@@ELEVATETHESKY oh ok my email is cdsso@live.com. how is the latency between the two I have thunderbolt 2 iMac
Both do really well but I only track one thing at a time. If I remember correctly both do 1.1 milliseconds. However , the apollo does that while using plugins at the same time in the recording process with unison technology. But so far I haven’t had any latency issues with either. I always use low latency mode in whatever DAW I use.
Have one with an sm7b. Music producer and I engineer for people as well as myself, Pretty great for my set up and style over all. The one thing everyone complaining about... I have mine routed into a usb3 port with led power switches, so no power switch needed on the unit ;)
I’ve noticed you’re very intentional about your audience , I love that. You obviously have some expensive professional gear in your studio but for the target of this channel you consistently discuss budget friendly, bang for buck , beginner - pro consumer level gear. Awesome work.
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Still gonna need a full review on your high end studio gear ! UA 610 mkii I noticed?? And that Neve looking device?! And that tape real looking thing ! Please :)
Tim. Thank you very much for the kind words. That really means the world to me. I love the high end stuff, but it's very rarely exciting to me because you buy it and almost always know it's going to work and sound great. With budget stuff, you'll stumble across a lot of trash, but then you'll find an amazing diamond in the rough.
And absolutely I'll have the LA610, WA73EQ, BAE1073, Neve 1073LB, API 512c, Arturia 8 Pre, U Audio X8 and UA Twin X...That's just the outboard gear. The mics I have coming up are going to be insane but I have to mix in the affordable stuff as well.
Thank you again Tim! Appreciate ya very much.
Podcastage wow!! More thumbs up from me, can’t wait to see your channel grow , it will and you deserve it, the high end series is gonna be awesome it’s hard to find good reviews like yours with any gear.
And I love the diamond in the rough concept ..it’s a competitive market indeed.
Best pre owned gems?? Could be a series/playlist down the road. With Your channel content and style of delivery + how thorough your reviews ....endless content ! 🙏🏽
Tim Aka TAllent oh I have a series planned for out of production items. Have a bunch of them already lined up. I just need to find the right time to record and release them. I have some coooool ones. Like the original Rode NT1, the American SM7, the SM5B, a bunch of the predecessors to the blue snowball. I’m so excited to eventually do them.
Podcastage can’t wait!!! Thanks for sharing that info
Just so you know, I’m going to buy a SSL2 tomorrow because of this review.
Hey Andrew! At 9:43 when you break into the metal riffage...do you recall what amp sim software you were using?
Looks like a great two person podcast interface, too
Totally podcasting is one of its target markets apart from VO Pros.
Thanks for the great review! Was looking for a good audio interface to improve the sound on my RUclips covers. I think I have found the right one. You've got a new sub :)
I have purchased one of these and am very excited for it to arrive. I will admit I am frightened by the headphone output impedance being so high. It is high enough that I expect it will cause some frequency response issues undesirable for monitoring on more sensitive headphones. Great review as always!
If i wanted to use this as a preamp only, not an audio interface, could I power it with a phone charger brick?
As a voice over guy I use my SSL-2 for Source Connect sessions with a vintage C414eb P48, it sounds great. The reason I use it for these sessions is because I have SC Pro on my laptop and SC Standard on my studio PC. My daily gear is an OC818 into a Neve 1073 and NTG5 into a Grace M101, but the sound of the SSL-2 is so good it could replace everything in my studio.
I just purchased the SSL 2 and couldn't be happier with my purchase. The preamps have a little character and I like that. I've gotten mixed reactions from peers but I personally like the sound, and afterall it is MY ears that will be doing the listening and my brain doing the mixing.
I am a bit upset however that I chose to buy my LDC based on Sweetwater's suggestion that I would need a Cloudlifter if I purchased the SM7B and due to the gain range of the preamps of THIS unit (I had a Presonus Audiobox USB before) I could've been completely happy with the SM7B.
But I wound up with a Warm Audio WA47jr and it has a similarly dark sound. So it's all good...saved a $100 too. I'm not too upset I guess! lol
I just ordered one....Thanks
This video was VERY well done, I appreciate the quality and detail!
genuinely here for the review. But the monitor button selector is available on the behringer 1820
As I need a second interface whilst on the road, my upgrade from a very dated gina 3d interface is definitely decided on the ssl2+.... Thanks man 🙏🏻
Still debating with my self if I want to get this, the Motu M4 or the Scarlett 2i4
M4 of course. Why would you settle for only 2 inputs?
@@keyboyrecords I only need XLR inputs
MOTU headphone can only hear either 1/2 or 3/4 at once, not both at the same time.
SSL doesn't have loopback.
2i4 got both function.
If they all meet your I/O needs, I'd probably go for the SSL due to the reputation of SSL alone. If you done like it, I'd probably go with the Focusrite. I have the 2i4 and made many songs on it. No real complaints about it other than the noisy pres and that it can't support an SM7B mic.
@@kairos_sou-nd but the 2i4 only got 2 inputs, how can you listen to input 3 and 4?
The best part is @15:40 !!! I kept hitting it again and again! Wow, that alone is worth this video!
I'm guitar player with amp sim and I'm thinking to upgrade my old focusrite solo GEN 1 due to audio quality and converter . I don't know if SSL2 or Motu M2. will make big differences?. I'm not expert with audio interface measurements. however, both of units " SSL2 or Motu m2 is expensive in my country and I don't know which one I should get?
Wow this is a really detailed and excellent review. Answered all my questions and concerns. Thanks a lot for that.
Been waiting weeks for you to post this one man! I run an Apollo twin at home but have been debating on a new work interface.
same man. Have you made your decision???'
It's definitely a cool interface. I can't say most of the features would benefit me personally, because I've never had the knack for music (you sure seem to have it). But it seems to have some stellar pre-amps and the price isn't bad, considering the features and quality.
Great job.
SSL2+ , Motu M4 or Apogee Duet? Has SSL2+ headphones 🎧 mute button?
It seems like all of the more recent audio interfaces have solved the issue of clipping with an electric guitar that a lot of the earlier audio interfaces had. How does the 4k switch compare to the Focusrite's air button? Does the Focusrite's button also add distortion into the signal? I know this interface has a lower EIN than the Motu but I would say for regular podcasting and recording choosing between the Motu and this would be quite the decision.
Yeah. It's getting pretty competitive out there, and I LOVE IT!
Does it has loopback capability for streaming and internal DSP efx?
Honestly I've been so lost and wanted something with a great preamp and great A/D that is not as pricey as a UA apollo so, given SSL's street cred, I'm sold on this one, thank you for reviewing it :)
My pleasure. You're going to love it.
Nice video - there had not been many videos showing what people want to see - a range of industry pro mics and its output sound and capabilities - although you get paid for views - I’d like to say thanks 😁
4K switch enabled + mid presence boost option on SM7B.. can’t wait to try!!
Great review! Love his dry sense of humor!
I generally really don't give much credit to on-board "features" and "fx" that seem to never amount to anything more than cheesy gimmicks, but that 4K did absolutely work on the SM7B. The bass as well really took advantage of it letting the high end come through. (Though from a practical view, I'm not sure if the bass upper frequencies wouldn't just get lost/cut in a complete mix anyways. Save it for the solo I suppose :D)
I'm still torn between the SSL2+ and the MOTU M4! Anyone with thoughts outside my own? 😂🤷🏻♂️
**Update**
I decided to go with the Motu M4. It's hard to beat the features at that price point. While the SSL2+ i'm sure is amazing, it has some design choices that won't work for me. One simple yet major one is having the headphone inputs in the back of the unit. I don't think you could go wrong with either of these interfaces.
good choice!
And? I'm curious about your experience because I'm facing the same decision: Motu M2/4 or SSL2+? I use a Mac with Logic and Cubase and tons of VST's (Arturia and Native Instruments, mainly). I read about some stability issues, hence my question.
Thank you in advance for sharing your findings.
@God Loves You I ordered neither of them actually. I'm in Belgium and apparently the Motu is kind of hard to get hold of for the moment (out of stock in most European online stores). I reviewed my options and decided to spend a little more and went for the Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen. The people from Thomann, Germany (which is a very reliable store) drew me over the line actually. We had a phone call and they assured me that if the Focusrite doesn't meet my expectations, I can swap it for the Motu, when it's back in stock.
This sounded like a fair deal to me and so now I'm impatiently waiting for it to arrive... .:-)
Cheers,
Gert
@@RogerSartet007 You were aiming for a 4in/4out device but let yourself get talked into a 16in/16out device?? How the fuck?🤷
Oh man! You doing this very well!! 🙌🏻
Good afternoon Sir, I'm replacing my old apogee one audio interface. Which out of these two audio interfaces should I get for my home studio, Solid State Logic SSL2+ or the Motu M4?
I just commented above that the gain on the SSL2 isn't enough for a Shure SM58, but it is working out fine with condenser mics, for remote broadcasts - which is why I bought the SSL2. But I also had a Motu M4 which I sent back, and I almost NEVER send anything back. If it's a choice between the two, I wouldn't even hesitate. Pick up the SSL2 and don't look back.
SSL 2+ is the best product with 2 instrument inputs and 2 headphone outputs. And these other features.
I prefer the SSL 2 because I dont need 2 outputs. I would have bought an Audient interface but the Evo8 isnt on the market.
I could have bought an Apogee One but I didn't find anyone using the Apogee One with Windows 10. So I was thinking maybe it will not work well.
I am using a Daw (FL Studio) and I want record an electric guitar and a mic.
I luv this device.... SSL are the masters of preamps and with a small formfactor like this, it is getting just better for a small speakbooth..... I like the fact, that the front has no plugs.... make the desk look cleaner. Personal pref..... great review.
best review ssl2 on RUclips. thank you !
Hi, Great reviews and love your ending punching in the face :) BUT...
I really don't understand why you seem to highly recommend the SSL2+ over the Motu M-series.
Your arguments are:
- the preamps of 62dB gain range agains MOTU's 60 dB gain range - SMALL DIFFERENCE
- EIN of -130.5 VS -129.5 - VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE
- Analog 4K switch which is a gimmick and something that can easily be reproduced with plug-ins or doesn't matter at all
- AD / DA converters which, based on plenty of reviews don't look that different quality wise in both interfaces (I actually see more people advocating that MOTU converters are MUCH better than SSL's ones)
On the other hand, MOTU wins regarding :
- Dynamic range outputs (120dB VS 112dB)
- Round trip latency (SSL performs really bad when compared to MOTU - based on gearslutz.com tests and testimonies)
- Dynamic Range Mic Input (115.5 dB(A) MOTU VS 110.7 dB(A) SSL) - BIG DIFFERENCE
- Mic Input impedance (3kOhm VS 1.2 kOhm SSL) - HUGE DIFFERENCE
Honestly, what I see here is that SSL surpasses "SLIGHTLY" the MOTU in some aspects, but the MOTU crushes the SSL regarding other features.
That's why I really don't understand your conclusion. Would you care to go deeper in your analysis please?
I am currently struggling between this 2 interfaces and every single opinion of someone that owns both devices would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Hey Hugo. Not here to justify any interface but during my research the MOTU has a lot of stability issues. Mainly due to it's drivers if your on PC. Some MOTU's have even been returned due to the led screen not working at all from new. Others have reported dropouts in audio.... again probably due to drivers. Just some food for thought if you're deciding on an interface. I would have liked the MOTU though not convinced from owners. I have placed an order on the SSL 2+ as I am attracted by not only it's pre's but also it's AD converters. Tests reveal they are miles ahead of other interfaces in it's class. Though at the end of the day, you can't go wrong with most interfaces in this price range. Just not the M-Audio. Those pre's have a noise floor that goes through the roof.
@@frankymino8773 You hit on exactly why I have zero interest in MOTU gear. Far too many bad experiences with them over the past twenty years. When they work, they're usually pretty great. When they don't, trying to get them functional is like having a root canal while sitting on a red hot spike while Britney Spears sings in your ear without autotune.
I appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts. Thank you :)
I enjoyed the video despite the exceedingly annoying use of high rising terminal speak!
Just imagine the silenced glee felt in the engineer when a high up person asked "why not make 10 the loudest?"
Subscribed when you threw that box to narnia 😂
Hi nice reviews!! I also watched the one about the MOTU M2. Strictly speaking as a guitar player, and only thinking about the Hi-z inputs when pluging guitars, would you recommend one over the other of this two interfaces? Thanks!!!
This was a really well thought out/put together interface....I wouldn't expect anything less from SSL tho!!!
Do you think its worth getting a cloud lifter or Fethead for best/cleanest sound results using the SSL2+ with the SM7B ?
I currently have an Audient id4..would this be a significant upgrade as far as preamp?
Thank you
Maybe not significant but it would def be an upgrade plus it's usb c so its gonna have better latency
Actualy the SSL 2 and the SSL2+ got killer converters..Kinda on par with the Motu M2 and M4..Those 2 compagnies dropped the bomb on the 1k Interfaces..
I was curious so i opened the SSL2 ... As usual PCB's wont differ so if you're a bit handy and can operate a Soldering Iron you can at least get the RCA outputs without much hazzle and around 80$ cheaper
I would love it, if you would find the time to review the SSL 12 thank you.
Hy!
Sorry to bother you, i have a question regarding the SSL 2:
when it goes to Audio quality, does it makes any change to the Sound/Quality?
I have a SSL 2 that is connected thru a Laptop at a Maui 28 G3, but for me it does not change the quality of the Sound, do not hear a real difference.
Does it makes any sense to use this device, only when i listen to music? ( i´m not using any Mic or recording at all).
Thanks in advance.
That 4K sounded good on the U87 and the 7b
Nice to see quality amps that can drive dynamic without needing a Cloudlifter or Fethead. SSL2 is great opton for voice same amps less money and uneeded features.
Sounds fantastic! Thanks for the great review!
need to get to work, but this video popped up, and must watch :)
The problem that PCM is not active all the time. I had make an working around. But after all that 4k button with my neumann ksm 105 black made my recordings sounded nicer. The detail it gives sounded natural and even I mix on it is much easier to mix.
Hi! SSL+ to UAD Arrow, is it worth it?
Ssl2 better io unless you go with apollo x4 or x6
@Podcastage have you tried it as an insert on the 2 bus with 4k buttons engaged
nice usefull videos you make, just wanted to ask, is it always so cold in your room?