Snowpiercer = Willy Wonka Sequel? (Rhino Stew followup)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?
    A follow-up to the Rhino Stew video.
    The original Rhino Stew video completely blew my mind when I first saw it, so this one is inspired by their idea. Watch the original here: • Why SNOWPIERCER is a s...
    New comparison of the two films, with more connections between the two!
    If you like this theory and want more, there's another 6 mins of EVEN MORE CONNECTIONS here:
    • Wonkapiercer Extra Stu...
    BONUS MATERIAL available at: • Bonus Material: Snowpi...
    A MINI ESSAY covering some ideas I've had about this theory since I first edited this together: / nomadickong
    #Wonkapiercer

Комментарии • 6 тыс.

  • @terrykmoney
    @terrykmoney 5 лет назад +556

    In Charlie and the chocolate factory they reference it being really hot and he says the oompa loompas can't take cold. That's why they went extinct

    • @reggiemillerisunderrated8396
      @reggiemillerisunderrated8396 4 года назад +15

      Good point

    • @user-zz6yv2qz3v
      @user-zz6yv2qz3v 8 месяцев назад +1

      Really? I don’t remember him saying that but i did watch both versions of Willy wonka including the recent wonka movie starring timothée chalamet as a young Willy wonka before he invented the chocolate factory sorry if this is tmi (too much information)

  • @swiff
    @swiff 4 года назад +953

    in the books it is said that the Oompa Loompas can't handle snow... so that's how they died.

    • @clickbait3753
      @clickbait3753 4 года назад +53

      And willy had no female oompa loompas so even without a disaster it was inevitable.

    • @victorminerva4546
      @victorminerva4546 4 года назад +11

      What book and page please

    • @nathanhernandez7173
      @nathanhernandez7173 3 года назад +35

      @@victorminerva4546 I haven’t read the book in like 10 years but I definitely recall the oompa loompas coming from africa or some place near the equator (this might’ve been mentioned in the book sequel and not the original) so it makes sense that they would go extinct in the frozen cold

    • @nathanhernandez7173
      @nathanhernandez7173 3 года назад +15

      @Lost Sky It could’ve been South America i don’t remember, I read the books when I was a kid

    • @pretendtheresaname9213
      @pretendtheresaname9213 3 года назад +6

      @@victorminerva4546 I also dont know but in the other adaptation of the book with Johnny Depp (which is more accurate to the book), Willy also says the same.

  • @EliasPoint
    @EliasPoint 5 лет назад +5985

    I think youtube really wants us to believe in this. They did recommend the original theory and now this

    • @tsuki7064
      @tsuki7064 5 лет назад +103

      I mean if you watched the original theory when it was recommended, ofc it will recommend this too. Its not rocket science nor some underground illuminati sh*t about youtube tryna brainwash you. Its just the algorithm doing its job. You watched a video that this video references so it recommends you this

    • @bugzyhardrada3168
      @bugzyhardrada3168 5 лет назад +29

      Yeah i mean it makes total sense, the algorithm follows your recent activity and if you ever watched the original then chances are youre gonna get a follow up recommendation to the follow up video......
      Its logics 101 ffs........
      People these days......

    • @torcatogjm
      @torcatogjm 4 года назад +2

      I also watch it yesterday

    • @leeandradsouza8358
      @leeandradsouza8358 4 года назад +5

      I mean how can you not believe thissss

    • @thomasgonzales-johnson6298
      @thomasgonzales-johnson6298 4 года назад +5

      Jesus lay off the dude does your daddy own youwtube whittle babbbbby? YoU UpSet?

  • @therealspaceninja27
    @therealspaceninja27 3 года назад +407

    Obviously the director Bong Joon Ho created a giant Easter egg post apocalyptic cinematic masterpiece sequel and didn’t want to pay royalties.

    • @manurr10
      @manurr10 3 года назад +21

      That is what exactly has happened.

    • @RandomUserX99
      @RandomUserX99 3 года назад +39

      ... and some how instead of asking him everyone wanted to ask Chris Evans instead.

    • @snowballandpals
      @snowballandpals 3 года назад +28

      More directors and writers should make unofficial sequels to awesome movies.

    • @MashiroShiina
      @MashiroShiina 3 года назад +4

      @James Howlett source?

  • @BrentODell
    @BrentODell 4 года назад +746

    The bear at the end of Snowpiercer tells us that one aspect of the narrative inside the train is a lie: ALL life outside the train is extinct. Clearly, some life has survived, and if there's a predator, there must be prey, which means a good deal of life is out there. The people at the end may, in fact, become bear food, but for me, the message is... life finds a way.

    • @Silas_Part_1
      @Silas_Part_1 4 года назад +43

      That line is my favorite.

    • @awildfilingcabinet6239
      @awildfilingcabinet6239 4 года назад +46

      Yes. If a polar bear has been able to survive, humans could definitely survive. The issue is that none of the world were equipped for the sudden temp change, so it’s likely that all human life as well life outside of the Arctic died. In fact, it’s kinda surprising that the bear survived, as they’re the most dependent on the rest of the food chain, and that was probably significantly disrupted as the arctic suddenly changed with the rest of the world. As it stands it would be one of the worst mass extinctions in world history, but life would recover, and hey, maybe intelligent life will eventually evolve again and learn from our mistakes.

    • @smiler6326
      @smiler6326 3 года назад +2

      Learn from mistakes if there is nothing surviving on records then that is unlikely I mean it’s happened a few times already civilisation been wiped out and others repeating there mistakes it’s only in last 200 years this actually started to stop. There is proof ancient Egyptians had ways of producing electricity in forms of battery pots but then no one used anything like that for another 2thousand years so if this happened it would be a very slow recovery very slow

    • @peterirungu4083
      @peterirungu4083 3 года назад

      @@awildfilingcabinet6239 Does it mean the descendants of Timmy and Nan unavoidably result to incest to repopulate the planet?

    • @wag0NE
      @wag0NE 3 года назад

      Maybe they are just going in circles inside a massive factory...

  • @crimsonskies9064
    @crimsonskies9064 4 года назад +574

    Wasn't there something in Willy Wonka about ice cream that never melts? There's your CW7

    • @astrangeradrift2775
      @astrangeradrift2775 4 года назад +56

      we have a winner

    • @anaphylaxis6599
      @anaphylaxis6599 4 года назад +28

      Omg

    • @alysonforan3007
      @alysonforan3007 4 года назад +17

      And someone else commented that on one of the previews for the show the song pure Imagination place totally proves this so cool

    • @arthur2953
      @arthur2953 4 года назад +6

      Errrr, CW7 is a gas right? Or I'm an idiot and this is sarcasm

    • @crimsonskies9064
      @crimsonskies9064 4 года назад +30

      @@arthur2953 I think it was, or perhaps an aerosolized liquid. I was just saying that whatever was used to make the unmelting ice cream could be the precursor to the cw7.

  • @matt-ct8vw
    @matt-ct8vw 5 лет назад +347

    WonkaPiecer sounds better than SnowWilly

    • @anji962
      @anji962 5 лет назад +9

      RichRelease27 snowwilly sounds like a lumberjack prono

    • @Ryan0Gray
      @Ryan0Gray 5 лет назад +16

      @@anji962 It should be Willypiercer

    • @adrianarias986
      @adrianarias986 5 лет назад +2

      I mean with that profile I think you would like the later name

    • @matt-ct8vw
      @matt-ct8vw 5 лет назад

      @@adrianarias986 no u

    • @turdy_water7646
      @turdy_water7646 5 лет назад +1

      No it doesn't

  • @QuaversASMR
    @QuaversASMR 3 года назад +141

    -points out the faded scarf on the shelf
    -doesn’t point out the faded top hat next to it, just like the one Wonka wears

  • @Lexie_Tyler05
    @Lexie_Tyler05 5 лет назад +296

    I never imagined I would find myself agreeing with such a seemingly outlandish idea

  • @pirashik7190
    @pirashik7190 5 лет назад +324

    All these fools in the comment section ranting about how this video isn't 'ORIGINAL' and a 'RIP OFF". This dude literally puts 'follow up' in the title and he suddenly becomes accused for stealing the idea when he's never claimed it was his own. He even puts the name of the channel in the title and the original link in the description and mentions the original theory constantly. The way I see it, this video is good for both of them and it'll keep garnering more views and profit, which might be the cause of all these butthurt people down in the comments blabbering about 'plagiarism'. There's a clear difference between 'RIPPING OFF' and extending an already presented idea with new facts (and or theories, in this case ).

    • @meganmcdonald5229
      @meganmcdonald5229 5 лет назад +1

      Rashik Hossain BOOM. 🙌 👏

    • @coolchilion722
      @coolchilion722 5 лет назад

      Tell that to Ryan Lewis

    • @nc8886
      @nc8886 5 лет назад

      👍

    • @cabechek
      @cabechek 5 лет назад +12

      Everything in this video was new from the rhino stew video and if anything , it goes well as a part 2 to the original video

    • @NotMichaelEither
      @NotMichaelEither 4 года назад

      I agree, but this video is sometimes waaaay too far reaching

  • @deletedTestimony
    @deletedTestimony 4 года назад +246

    I don't give a fuck if it's real-real, there's enough coincidences that it's Canon in my soul

    • @biznessman5632
      @biznessman5632 4 года назад +8

      This is the definition of spiritual successor

    • @djmaximus3000video
      @djmaximus3000video 4 года назад

      deletedTestimony Samesies

    • @deletedTestimony
      @deletedTestimony 3 года назад

      @James Howlett Did you just... not read the post? Did the words not make sense in that order? Should you go read it again? *Perhaps*

    • @deletedTestimony
      @deletedTestimony 3 года назад

      @James Howlett I'm commenting like you're a dumbass, and you're confirming my theory with replies like that

  • @camillahearsch4807
    @camillahearsch4807 3 года назад +185

    The books line up wayyyy more than the movies. Fun easter egg: the book of Snowpiercer name drops Willy Wonka as a popular candy company that existed in the time before the train

  • @VikeshSNM
    @VikeshSNM Год назад +139

    Another little thing I noticed is that Wilford says the part went "extinct" which normally refers to a species a/o living organism, so he may have been talking about the oompa loompas.

    • @jhonhdhcb7495
      @jhonhdhcb7495 Год назад +7

      I need to rewatch it, but someone on the original theory video said "extinct" was used for other parts like bullets so unfortunately it isn't as conclusive

    • @attackofthecopyrightbots
      @attackofthecopyrightbots Год назад

      just gotta read the book to see what he actually meant

    • @asmodeusguys4472
      @asmodeusguys4472 Год назад +6

      It makes sense, since the oompa loompas can only survive in hot climates

  • @TheAlienPunker
    @TheAlienPunker 3 года назад +243

    It is absolutely a sequel, the big W, is just one obvious clue. From Varuca Salt to the "extinction" of the tiny part that operated the engine. Machine Parts don't go "extinct" oops

    • @anqproductions
      @anqproductions 3 года назад +16

      Exactly what I was thinking. Its quite strange wilford used the word "extinct" 😱😱😱

    • @aliruchman6997
      @aliruchman6997 3 года назад +5

      @@anqproductions the word extinct is used a bunch of times throughout the film to describe parts and resources that have run out so it's not too out there for him to say that

  • @dominicjefferson3229
    @dominicjefferson3229 5 лет назад +314

    anybody getting this recommended now ?? just watched the original theory yesterday haha

  • @fr8traaain
    @fr8traaain 4 года назад +130

    We need a directors cut with a single new scene containing a frozen, run-down Wonka factory

  • @bobbyfett7450
    @bobbyfett7450 4 года назад +279

    What if the technology Willy Wonka used to make the ice cream that never melts is the same technology that CW7 is?
    Idk how these would connect.
    Being different movies in all. But still would be fun

    • @enochchow4099
      @enochchow4099 4 года назад +7

      I am convinced

    • @veretxnerd983
      @veretxnerd983 4 года назад +4

      Holy

    • @christhefish11
      @christhefish11 4 года назад +4

      Good catch 👍🏻

    • @willy-johndejager6810
      @willy-johndejager6810 3 года назад +3

      ive seen that icecream theory on 3 different posts. 3 different people. that can mean that all arrived at that claim independantly. maby dis shit goes deeper.

  • @RhinoStew
    @RhinoStew 5 лет назад +101

    In all honesty, I am FLOORED and audibly Lol’d at certain moments. There’s so many fantastic components here, particularly how Charlie was supposed to be black which really adds an amazing grace note to the ending. I am deeply honored by this, and lord knows you probably went crazier making all of this than I did. I am so glad this level of thought and appreciation for this theory exists before the television show comes around and inevitably disappoints us
    You sir are NOT a shoe
    PS: I totally screwed up the timelines as many people pointed out. 2014 would have been the launch of CW-7 (which freezing warts is genius and I wish I thought of that) and the events of the movie would have been 20 years after so the characters would have been much older which I would like to remind the internet (ITS A GODDAM MOVIE... RELAX YO)
    PS: I am totally going to give this a shoutout tomorrow. And I LOVED the bonus material you assembled!!!

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 5 лет назад +9

      Rhino Stew
      You made an awesome theory video, and now this one seems to confirm it further.
      I comment already, that I don't even care if it's intentional, because the films go together so wonderfully.
      Thanks for sharing this on your channel, as this video was really cool as well.

    • @NomadicKong
      @NomadicKong  5 лет назад +11

      Thanks so much for writing here!
      Really glad you enjoyed it, means a lot to me, and HAT off to you for bringing the connection to light! :D
      Your video completely changed the way I saw the two movies, and had way too much fun exploring the theory - so cheers!!

    • @sm1115
      @sm1115 5 лет назад +2

      Rhino stew, you know how the girl w/the fur coat first was white after the incinerator it turned to a slightly more burnt colour hinting at something!?!??!

    • @scottfrye
      @scottfrye Год назад

      I forgot about this and some how ended up here again years later. I just ordered the movie on blu Ray to have forever. I may even buy the original. I should order the original. I should go to a hospital.

  • @tvv1881
    @tvv1881 4 года назад +261

    Hehehee *willy piercer*

  • @illwill1991
    @illwill1991 3 года назад +55

    The end of snowpiercer is ambiguous but not that ambiguous. There's a reason you see a polar bear at the end and it's not to make you go "oohh they might get eaten by a polar bear!" No the point of the polar bear is simple. It's a living animal. It is an animal that is living and by the looks of it thriving in this environment that is supposed to be to cold for any animal to live in. That means the earth is warming and there is still hope for humanity.

    • @Vegas_Des
      @Vegas_Des 3 года назад +1

      LOL ppl think that ?

    • @TransoceanicOutreach
      @TransoceanicOutreach 3 года назад

      Actually the polar bear is a reference to Fox's Glacier Mints. You're welcome.

    • @heinrichvonschnitzel8600
      @heinrichvonschnitzel8600 3 года назад

      Not a lot of hope though. Two children that know nothing about survival in a frozen world, Also the girl is addicted to drugs.

    • @illwill1991
      @illwill1991 3 года назад +1

      @@heinrichvonschnitzel8600 ok sure but I think your still thinking about it too specifically. Your still kinda missing the forest for the trees here. If there is a living polar bear, then I think it's fairly likely that there is a few small groups of humans living somewhere out there as well.

    • @heinrichvonschnitzel8600
      @heinrichvonschnitzel8600 3 года назад +1

      @@illwill1991 Perhaps humans could survive close to geothermal vents or hot springs. These two children though? they are on a snowy mountain so they are probably going to die.

  • @lgolem09l
    @lgolem09l 5 лет назад +94

    What really gets me is the WORDING of that pivotal scene. "This piece of equipment has become extinct recently". Not broken, not unavailable, extinct, like a living organism.

    • @NomadicKong
      @NomadicKong  5 лет назад +33

      There's another unusual bit of wording in the scene where Curtis and Wilford first meet. I didn't include it in the video, but Wilford says 'You are the first human being to have walked the total length of this train. Tail to engine' - Oompa Loompas are presumably a different species! ;)

    • @northernstar1127
      @northernstar1127 5 лет назад +2

      @@NomadicKong Hopefully TNT will expand on it more sense they picked it up!

  • @wsdpii
    @wsdpii 5 лет назад +86

    My theory on CW7 is that Wilfred/Charlie was experimenting with an ice cream that wouldn't melt, then a government found out and tried to use it to reverse global warming

    • @x_ztg6462
      @x_ztg6462 5 лет назад +1

      wsdpii hmm

    •  5 лет назад +1

      Duuuuuudeeeee

    • @michaelsullivan6734
      @michaelsullivan6734 5 лет назад

      wsdpii excellent thought, I never would’ve considered that bit.

    • @_2oo7
      @_2oo7 4 года назад

      Damn you might be right!

    • @JIMT412
      @JIMT412 Год назад

      Is... Not so out of the realm of possibilities. Many chemistry is involved in those kind of stuff.

  • @twof5487
    @twof5487 4 года назад +412

    POV your watching this one because the first one got recommended to you

  • @derkaiser50
    @derkaiser50 3 года назад +113

    I think the whole wonka piercer theory makes more sense with the 2005 reboot Charlie and the Chocolate Factory rather than the original

    • @alanmorales150
      @alanmorales150 3 года назад +2

      Ooo you got a point

    • @derkaiser50
      @derkaiser50 3 года назад +62

      @@jager9022 Well for one, look at the difference between the technology shown in the experimenting room, in the original movie, its kinda thrown together, looks like it was built by a mad man. While in the 2005 reboot, it looks more comparable to what we see in snowpiercer. Another thing to look at is the architecture of the factory, the original movie, is this brick building, looks like a Victorian factory. while the 2005 reboot factory has architecture that looks similar to that of the exterior of the train.

    • @headlight31
      @headlight31 3 года назад +20

      The color tone of the reboot fits with Snowpearser way better.

    • @RandomUserX99
      @RandomUserX99 3 года назад +1

      @@derkaiser50 the movie may have taken some inspiration from the reboot.

    • @niazshah320
      @niazshah320 3 года назад +6

      hell no, there are way too many left out scenes in the reboot that are significant to snow piercer

  • @TheAgentAssassin
    @TheAgentAssassin 5 лет назад +68

    We have a wart remover in the USA called "Compound W"
    (C)ompound (W)
    And it commonly is sold in (7g) size.
    CW7

    • @robertledford4018
      @robertledford4018 5 лет назад +3

      LOL, Good one.

    • @MrMoon-pp8xv
      @MrMoon-pp8xv 5 лет назад +4

      Willy wonka was very knowledged in chemistry he was alwaysusing strange ways of making chemicals candy

  • @stewhv94
    @stewhv94 4 года назад +65

    The actual theory is that this is all just a fever dream Captain America had when he was still frozen.

  • @scrambled5948
    @scrambled5948 5 лет назад +68

    The similarities are so close that it's undeniable that the movie was at least heavily influenced by Willy Wonka

  • @KuroSlick
    @KuroSlick 2 года назад +79

    It's the "extinct small people" that solifies it for me, it's why they use kids to run the train

    • @DollySantana
      @DollySantana 2 года назад +4

      Yea and wonka says oompa loomps come from warm climates

    • @KuroSlick
      @KuroSlick 2 года назад +1

      @@DollySantana Yep, hopefully they solidify the theory one day!

  • @dylanh1462
    @dylanh1462 5 лет назад +150

    youtube recommendations are crazy. first the rhino stew one than immediately this?! and the comments are all from a couple hours ago? youtube boolin

    • @bossnachose62
      @bossnachose62 5 лет назад +1

      Dylan Hendrick exactly what happened to me

    • @ur_stepbro8035
      @ur_stepbro8035 5 лет назад +1

      Yes but it's more interesting that way

    • @neilangelomolleda7283
      @neilangelomolleda7283 5 лет назад +1

      Same wth

    • @jactrich
      @jactrich 5 лет назад +1

      Dylan Hendrick really because the two comments below yours are 4 and 5 months ago to your 2. If you meant a “couple” thousand between 1450-2200 hours then yes it was hours ago.

    • @phoebetakarua4737
      @phoebetakarua4737 4 года назад

      @@jactrich lmao your putting everyone in their place😂

  • @fluxpistol3608
    @fluxpistol3608 5 лет назад +78

    Plot twist, it’s not snow it’s icing sugar

  • @harleyburdick2695
    @harleyburdick2695 4 года назад +42

    Something I've never heard mentioned before but in Snowpiercer when they get to the school children car, there is a white kid wearing a black face mask complete with a bucket on his head.... Charlie Bucket was originally supposed to be black..🧠💥

    • @NomadicKong
      @NomadicKong  4 года назад +14

      Great spot! Didn’t notice that - and interestingly, that kid with the black face mask and the bucket on the head is prominently in shot when Tanya says ‘Timmy’... Links up visually and verbally! 🤩

    • @harleyburdick2695
      @harleyburdick2695 4 года назад +4

      Wow! And the plot thickens further! Lol think I'm convinced

    • @NomadicKong
      @NomadicKong  4 года назад +8

      Haha, the more you look, the more you find!

  • @glaucous3215
    @glaucous3215 4 года назад +97

    The fact that this is recommended in June of 2020 makes me wonder if youtube is trying to tell us something and it makes me scared

    • @vnenus
      @vnenus 4 года назад +2

      right??

    • @myriamcastanedaromo6975
      @myriamcastanedaromo6975 4 года назад +2

      Yes

    • @p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339
      @p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339 4 года назад +2

      Probably because of the new Snowpiercer t.v. show that just came out. Nothing nefarious.

    • @kenetickups6146
      @kenetickups6146 3 года назад

      trying to tell you to watch thr tv show
      lel

    • @cameron5202
      @cameron5202 3 года назад

      Bill gates is suggesting now that we put aluminum in the atmosphere to reflect part of the sun, reducing climate change

  • @FrogEnjoyer17
    @FrogEnjoyer17 5 лет назад +65

    To Nr. 5, did you really mention the scarf but ignore the Top Hat that is sitting on it?

    • @bait5257
      @bait5257 4 года назад

      😶😲😲

  • @gatlinschiele1738
    @gatlinschiele1738 5 лет назад +42

    Too many coincidences to be coincidental. At minimum it was heavily inspired by Willy wonka, at most it is the perfect sequel for the children who grew up with the original. 10/10 should do 9/11 conspiracies next.

  • @omegasynth2775
    @omegasynth2775 5 лет назад +165

    Come with me...
    And you'll see...
    The last hope of human's salvation...
    On these tracks...
    We save our lives...
    From total annihilation...
    It begins...
    With an engine...
    Maybe some little intimidation...
    But know its all...
    For humanity's salvation...

    • @waldofound8212
      @waldofound8212 5 лет назад +7

      Damn imagine Wilford/Charlie murmuring that as he’s making some candy or something.

    • @gravioly3166
      @gravioly3166 5 лет назад +3

      @@waldofound8212 ill pass thats way too disturbing

  • @SDGFK
    @SDGFK 4 года назад +30

    Can't believe we were recommended to watch the first video and now this video got recommended to everyone at the same time.

  • @darkfire8865
    @darkfire8865 2 года назад +59

    *SPOILERS*
    This theory is so famous that in the Snowpiercer series in season two Wilford has a Circus Car and it's called "Willy's World" and when wilford comes in the car he is dressed exactly like Willy Wonka lol. I think they probably wanted to reference it.

    • @spyczech
      @spyczech 9 месяцев назад

      theres a series?

  • @jessem3149
    @jessem3149 4 года назад +52

    If not a sequal, than at least a reimagined version of Charlie and the chocolate factory in a post apocalyptic setting
    I could easily believe both

  • @Shutupcracker
    @Shutupcracker Год назад +34

    the ‘extinct’ part of the engine is the final nail in the coffin, it makes everything make sense, using extinct is so specific to living things mostly so that pretty much what i think closes this case

  • @reddeadedits1623
    @reddeadedits1623 Год назад +67

    Snowpeircer is literally the polar express mixed with Willy Wonka and the fallout games.

  • @jravell
    @jravell 4 года назад +68

    One guys is short? You think the walls look like chocolate bars? Something looks like a piece of an old scarf? None of this clinches it.
    But the music? That's significant. LEAD WITH THAT.

    • @joemcalister7105
      @joemcalister7105 4 года назад +9

      I know right, and all he says is the notes are the same. ITS THE MELODY PLAYED BACKWARDS AND SPED UP!!!!!! Such a clear reference and a common way to reference tings through scoring

  • @thefellowshipreforged8901
    @thefellowshipreforged8901 5 лет назад +38

    People are ripping on this for being a stretch but i think this video does exactly what it's meant to. The original video gets the main points and this one fleshes it out with every possible connection even if some of them might not have been real intentional easter eggs. This video is for people who wanted to see more.

  • @godchi1dvonsteuben770
    @godchi1dvonsteuben770 5 лет назад +31

    Parts don't "go extinct" that line, alone PROVES the theory...

  • @Ruenvale
    @Ruenvale 2 года назад +53

    Should have gone with WillyPiercer

  • @OnePunchJAB
    @OnePunchJAB 5 лет назад +95

    We are all chosen by the algorithm. Welcome.

    • @scottl875
      @scottl875 5 лет назад +3

      The algorithim is merciful

    • @BlitzerXYZ
      @BlitzerXYZ 5 лет назад

      We must provide the SACRIFICE

  • @jacobnash7127
    @jacobnash7127 4 года назад +28

    Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (movie) was based in the 70s and not '63.
    There is a scene with a peace symbol in chalk on a wall that Charlie walks past in a construction site / ally of sorts.
    That pushes your start of timeline 10 years back making the age difference less and makes the charaters right in line with each movie. No longer 90 but 80. It fits.

    • @aidenv6537
      @aidenv6537 4 года назад

      I see you took notes on matt pat's new Willy Wonka video.

  • @TheMemeAlley
    @TheMemeAlley 4 года назад +33

    People complaining this is conspiracy theory, c'mon, this is fucking movie, not real life, is it so hard for a director to pay homage to a classic movie? It's not like it defies logic...

    • @gump5ter01
      @gump5ter01 4 года назад +6

      Well said man. Some folk are just so precious. Gate keeping the meaning of a movie is just as pointless as PETA protesting captive fish in animal crossing. Makes no sense. Harms no one and is a waste of time

  • @astinjones3502
    @astinjones3502 Год назад +46

    Also if you look on top of the scarf in Wilford’s room 5:04 you can see somthing that looks like a top hat

  • @jaredlindblad5485
    @jaredlindblad5485 4 года назад +38

    i just watched snowpeircer fir the first time, it came out 7 years ago, watched a theory that came out more than a year ago and all the comments are from this week, what the hell

    • @Bricicles
      @Bricicles 4 года назад +5

      The mystery of algorithms.

    • @Looneyboy
      @Looneyboy 4 года назад

      Lmao it was on private and he reenabled the vid ain’t too crazy

    • @jaredlindblad5485
      @jaredlindblad5485 4 года назад +1

      @@Looneyboy makes sense

  • @TheTarrMan
    @TheTarrMan 5 лет назад +41

    Maybe Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka but they couldn't get the rights so they had to be low-key about it.

    • @elishareynolds782
      @elishareynolds782 5 лет назад +4

      Exactly.

    • @davidgggames
      @davidgggames 5 лет назад

      This theory isnt true at all.. maybe the director being a genius found these correlations and wanted to connect both stories. But Snow Piercer is a book of 3 books. There are 2 Snow Pierce continuation and world stories. They arent Willy Wonka at all. The author definitely didnt connect the stories but maybe the director wanted to.

  • @mrbongalong2788
    @mrbongalong2788 4 года назад +107

    Wonka: Expected Charlie to live happily ever after.
    Charley: Freezes the world and created a train hell.

    • @alysonforan3007
      @alysonforan3007 4 года назад +6

      Lmao train hell

    • @sirpixel7945
      @sirpixel7945 2 года назад +2

      Wonka: You had one job Charlie! One job!

    • @JohnWick-qr4yc
      @JohnWick-qr4yc 11 месяцев назад +1

      You know what they say you either die a hero or love long enough to see yourself become the villain….

  • @timmyfriday2718
    @timmyfriday2718 4 года назад +31

    "Here's the scarf again when we first meet Wilfred"
    *Arrow pointing to random piece of clothing that isn't even the same colour

    • @eder7468
      @eder7468 4 года назад +4

      You do realize color on clothing fades?, especially if they're half a century old

    • @lovelessdinosaur6650
      @lovelessdinosaur6650 3 года назад +3

      @@eder7468 tbf he does have a point
      even if the cloth's color wore off the patten of the scarf is completely different to the scarf given to Charlie.
      plus this guy has too farfetched points even to this theory such as
      ▪︎this guy is short = oompa loompa
      ▪︎the bucket = charlie bucket

    • @therealchosenone6339
      @therealchosenone6339 3 года назад

      I thought it was some sticks to idk

    • @danielzakgaim2764
      @danielzakgaim2764 3 года назад

      Also next to the scarf is a TOP HAT

  • @c_user_chino
    @c_user_chino 5 лет назад +38

    Imagine if it was called Willy-Piercer.
    I’d be scared as fuck...

    • @maryshaw3898
      @maryshaw3898 5 лет назад

      D.K this is very unappreciated. Great job.

  • @sleezzzbag
    @sleezzzbag 5 лет назад +37

    Did Willy Wonka give anyone else nightmares as a child? The boat scene had me shook for a couple days.

    • @welcometowatchmo6985
      @welcometowatchmo6985 5 лет назад +2

      That shit still got me shook

    • @wolfgangbuck841
      @wolfgangbuck841 5 лет назад +3

      I hate the Loompa's to this very day. Creepy little b@stards kept me up some nights sick with fear.

    • @hayleyscomet3447
      @hayleyscomet3447 5 лет назад +1

      Decuiron I mean the kid actors were scared to because they weren’t told about that scene being that way.

    • @ShirouBrando
      @ShirouBrando 5 лет назад

      Fuck that boat scene hell there's a dead guy in one of the shots

  • @cslack813
    @cslack813 5 лет назад +23

    You are doing some Olympic gold medal level asspulls here. Especially with that “scarf” hahahaha

  • @thebobbrom7176
    @thebobbrom7176 11 месяцев назад +25

    In 2063 we need to make a kids film that is secretly a sequel to Snowpiercer

    • @Ashley-qh8ud
      @Ashley-qh8ud 8 месяцев назад +3

      The Adventures of Yona and Timmy

  • @jolopotassium5562
    @jolopotassium5562 5 лет назад +60

    RUclips's Algorithm is scary sometimes. Rhinostews video yesterday and this today...

  • @tygorton
    @tygorton Год назад +38

    At this point, I don't even care if it's the truth or not. It's real for me and it elevates both films.

  • @a.j.flores3935
    @a.j.flores3935 4 года назад +31

    In Charlie and the Chocolate factory, I know that the kids represented the 7 deadly sin which was.... gluttony, greed, pride, lust, sloth, envy, and anger. Each kid represented 1 or more of these. So they could have a strong connection to the CW7 or the revolt of the 7.

  • @stephenbuckley1383
    @stephenbuckley1383 4 года назад +54

    Ok everything was a stretch until the music part now I am convinced and my life is not the same.

  • @notanonymous3976
    @notanonymous3976 4 года назад +41

    itd be funny if it was actually an official sequel. imagine all the kids excited to see a movie about candy and then getting this XD

  • @mariabakir2808
    @mariabakir2808 4 года назад +43

    Why are so many people are commenting today? Did everyone get this in the recommendation?

    • @ChoklatMilc
      @ChoklatMilc 4 года назад +1

      Comments are set to newest first that is why it appears as everyone saw this today

    • @aidanfinley5316
      @aidanfinley5316 4 года назад

      yes

    • @aidanfinley5316
      @aidanfinley5316 4 года назад +1

      it might have to do with the apocalypse xD

  • @macross270
    @macross270 Год назад +26

    One thing I found at the tunnel part is that in Willy Wonka, it’s Veruca Salt that wants the boat to stop. And in Snowpiercer, it’s Minister Mason. Both these two characters are said to be the same figure. So…

  • @swoodc
    @swoodc 2 года назад +44

    the 7 in CW7 (Charlie Wonka 7) stands for the 7 sins, which was displayed in willy wonka

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 2 года назад +1

      really all seven. let's run through them shall we.
      Lust: no evidence either way though he is presumably a bachelor
      Gluttony: he runs a chocolate factory so I guess he inspires this in others.
      Greed: he is a wealthy industrialist so he presumably hordes his gains to some extent.
      Sloth: This is one that he most definitely does not commit.
      Wrath: there are a few scenes where he's angry but does that really count.
      Envy: This is a difficult one for me to define but maybe he's envious of Charlie at times.
      Pride: Absolutely Wonka is one of the most egotistical prideful people in fiction.
      He commits two maybe three sins tops.

    • @TheSapphyre
      @TheSapphyre 2 года назад +8

      @@ieuanhunt552 you're misunderstanding the theory. I just looked it up and it goes like this: Augustus Gloop is Gluttony, Violet Beauregard is Pride, Veruca Salt is Greed, Mike Teevee is Sloth, Charlie is Lust (for the golden ticket), Wonka is Wrath, and Grandpa Joe is envy. Take that for what you will

    • @theegreatawakening1937
      @theegreatawakening1937 2 года назад

      It’s not the one person that displayed the 7 sins. It was always different people displaying the 7 sins…like the big kid with no control (gluttony), the girl who had to be first (pride), etc
      So is this in snow piercer as we meet different characters

    • @RuiCBGLima
      @RuiCBGLima 2 года назад

      @@ieuanhunt552 Ahahaha Yes, I like the idea. But CW7 is from the original french comics "Le Transpercinage" (The Snowpiercer)

  • @phnxen3rg666
    @phnxen3rg666 5 лет назад +21

    Maybe not a direct sequel, but certainly a hell of a tribute. And its an incredible accomplishment the Bong Joon-ho was able to sneak in all of those references and it took people over 5 years to realize it. He was probably waiting for someone to figure it out. Makes an amazing movie even more amazing.

  • @TheOutsider69
    @TheOutsider69 5 лет назад +31

    Obviously it isn't due to legal reasons but it's very clear that Snowpiercer is heavily inspired by Willy Wonka lol. It's inarguable at this point.

    • @cinnamonpanda6040
      @cinnamonpanda6040 5 лет назад +6

      Inspired is an understatment

    • @TheOutsider69
      @TheOutsider69 5 лет назад +6

      @@cinnamonpanda6040 Hence the "heavily" lol.

    • @TeeshJay
      @TeeshJay 5 лет назад

      how is inspiration a legality issue LOL everything now a days is essentially a reproduction of the same 3 ideas

    • @RakaZet
      @RakaZet 5 лет назад +2

      @@TeeshJay it being a sequel is a legal issue u dumbwit

  • @graceless000
    @graceless000 4 года назад +28

    “A tunnel?”
    “Mhmm. A fucking long one.”
    XD Idk why that part makes me laugh.

  • @kyte8131
    @kyte8131 4 года назад +37

    the original video by rhino stew was in my recommendations.. then i came and watched this.. both videos were made in 2018.. and we all watching it in June 2020.. not to mention that snowpiercer was released in 2013.. youtube is definitely hiding something... lol

    • @rorschach5652
      @rorschach5652 3 года назад

      OMG!! You are the first one commenting this! Wow! Your originality is outstanding!! Bravo!

  • @Niven42
    @Niven42 2 года назад +39

    Now all we need is a third movie that shows us how everything happened.

  • @amedeoceccato7190
    @amedeoceccato7190 4 года назад +38

    All of this connections.. And I am "mmm". Then I realized we are talking about Bong Joon Ho and so "ok it's all true".

  • @Mc_Lovin25
    @Mc_Lovin25 Год назад +33

    Even if its not true, I belive the writer of the movie make reference on Willy Wonka’s insane vision of industry

  • @tetrotany
    @tetrotany 4 года назад +42

    Did this just show up in everybody’s recommendation section or was it just me?

  • @eliezervelezful
    @eliezervelezful 4 года назад +31

    Yes, they are officially related. The trailer for the new Snowpiercer TV series use the music from Willie Wonka!

    • @oxxuel8713
      @oxxuel8713 4 года назад +1

      WAT no way

    • @Mentocthemindtaker
      @Mentocthemindtaker 4 года назад +1

      @@oxxuel8713 Yes way : ruclips.net/video/Rh8Ses7XUeY/видео.html

    • @oxxuel8713
      @oxxuel8713 4 года назад +1

      @@Mentocthemindtaker holly crap thats wack

    • @kiryuplayz
      @kiryuplayz 4 года назад

      @@oxxuel8713 it's not wack it's the same song that ready player one used

    • @oxxuel8713
      @oxxuel8713 4 года назад +1

      @@kiryuplayz ;-;

  • @dereckkeilty1
    @dereckkeilty1 5 лет назад +33

    You mentioned his scarf but you didn’t even point out the top hat that looks exactly like wonkas hat right behind the scarf on the shelf

  • @RhinoStew
    @RhinoStew 5 лет назад +18

    So... this is what kool aid tastes like.

  • @isabellac.8351
    @isabellac.8351 4 года назад +41

    This video just appeared in everybody's recommended even though it came out a year ago

    • @gavinmead6776
      @gavinmead6776 4 года назад +2

      isabella tf yes

    • @l_VENDXTTA_l
      @l_VENDXTTA_l 4 года назад +1

      I'm mindblown by the theory, it's so reminiscent

    • @annabarr1304
      @annabarr1304 4 года назад +1

      Yup

    • @lexluthor5738
      @lexluthor5738 4 года назад +1

      Exactly lol

    • @christallh24
      @christallh24 4 года назад

      I heard NetFlix is doing their own version of Willy Wonka. They've even casted Daveed Diggs as Charlie. Maybe YT is giving NetFlix a good looking out.

  • @saulfernandez9505
    @saulfernandez9505 2 года назад +33

    Rhino Stew got me with the analysis of the scenes, you sir absolutely reaffirmed that with the analysis of the music

  • @impuves
    @impuves 5 лет назад +34

    Looks like this was recommended to everyone just today.

  • @mdandrews
    @mdandrews Год назад +40

    RHINO HAS RELEASED A NEW VIDEO ON THIS THEORY AND WILL BE MAKING MORE

    • @iker2333
      @iker2333 Год назад +3

      Whooo!

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 Год назад +6

      His 2 hour video has nothing to do with the theory it's simply a 2 hour review of Bong Joon Ho filmography. Very disappointing tbh.

    • @FREVQUEBEATS
      @FREVQUEBEATS Год назад +1

      @@Wallyworld30 i thought exactly the same, tremendously interesting but definitely not what i was hoping for

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 Год назад +3

      @@FREVQUEBEATS He used his most viral video ever as click bait to get us to watch his Bong Joon Ho Filmography Retrospective. I also found it interesting but ultimately part of me was pissed off with the bait and switch.

    • @mdandrews
      @mdandrews Год назад

      @@Wallyworld30 yes that’s true, it wasn’t really what I was hoping for but he did say there would be more parts.

  • @odmblogs
    @odmblogs 4 года назад +14

    Also not only the cabinets look like chocolate, but the whole room mirrors the beginning shot of Willy Wonka showing the CHOCOLATE BEING MADE, chocolate looking furniture, metal rods like those in an assembly line, melted chocolate as the floor, Wilfords apparel like a box of chocolates, the golden woman as the ticket like he mentioned, and it being the only part of the factory thats automated.

  • @Morecado
    @Morecado 5 лет назад +57

    Why did I get both the first vid and the follow up recommended to me today?

    • @simondosser5739
      @simondosser5739 5 лет назад

      Morecado same thing happened to me

    • @frontdeskconcierge
      @frontdeskconcierge 5 лет назад +4

      Lol same but I think it’s cuz we watched the first vid, I didn’t get this recommendation till after I watched the rhino stew vid

    • @ot5216
      @ot5216 5 лет назад

      Yeah same!

    • @phoebetakarua4737
      @phoebetakarua4737 4 года назад

      That's how the algorithm works

  • @vlogginggabes3864
    @vlogginggabes3864 4 года назад +66

    Why is everyone watching this literally right now?

    • @vlogginggabes3864
      @vlogginggabes3864 4 года назад +1

      Seriously??? Why right now?

    • @robinjohnaranguiz7907
      @robinjohnaranguiz7907 4 года назад +2

      I have no clue man. It's fuckin 2am where I am, and I'm usually asleep at this hour. Must've been fate. Synchronicity.

    • @pixility5612
      @pixility5612 4 года назад +2

      @@robinjohnaranguiz7907 Its 1 am where i'm at lol i'm getting ads about snowpiercer in my recommended its weird

    • @Beautifulconnyxime
      @Beautifulconnyxime 4 года назад

      Quarantine has us bored as shit so we watching anything right now

    • @vlogginggabes3864
      @vlogginggabes3864 4 года назад +1

      @@Beautifulconnyxime like seriously I got most of my likes on the same day I posted that comment and I got too many likes than I would like lol (nice name btw)

  • @ot5216
    @ot5216 5 лет назад +33

    Seems like everyone is getting this video and the Rhino Stew one in their recommended today lol

  • @StrawhatSiah007
    @StrawhatSiah007 3 года назад +18

    So everyone else got this and the original one back in their feed after 2 years?

  • @umbryinite_3284
    @umbryinite_3284 4 года назад +34

    That bucket was there as a prop on purpose. I'm in a Film class and they teach us that everything in a shot is done on purpose and for a reason.

    • @chadd990
      @chadd990 4 года назад +1

      and sometimes they're just there because they're there. You're not really that naive to believe every little prop always has a meaning? Just to prove the point, look up the Three Men and a Baby ghost.

  • @rileywalker5879
    @rileywalker5879 4 года назад +25

    Why did it literally take a quarantine to make snow piercer pop off? This film is fucking fantastic

    • @elr4f436
      @elr4f436 4 года назад

      Riley Walker Wym since this movie came out its been a high praised movie.

    • @emma-hg1zg
      @emma-hg1zg 4 года назад +2

      elr4f4 not as high as it should be

    • @ninjaslayer9248
      @ninjaslayer9248 4 года назад

      I have been wanting to watch it because of this theory. And I finally watched it on Netflix after waiting for months

  • @johnnyrotten200
    @johnnyrotten200 4 года назад +31

    Look at what's on the scarf: Wonka's hat.

    • @carissagraft
      @carissagraft 4 года назад +5

      I though I was the only one who noticed that!

  • @joechungus8967
    @joechungus8967 4 года назад +35

    The funny thing is the time line matches

  • @Snake3yesEddie
    @Snake3yesEddie 5 лет назад +20

    I don’t think it counts as a rip off, when they explain at the very start the original source and creator of the theory. They also put it in the main title that it’s a follow up of Rhino Stews original video, along with the link to Rhinos video in the description. I honestly think he is just giving his take and opinion on the theory itself and not actually taking credit for coming up with it.

  • @neverloseyuorrobux166
    @neverloseyuorrobux166 3 года назад +57

    I dont know why but the name of this theory "Wonkapiercer" sounds like a name of a porn movie

  • @pkbailz
    @pkbailz 4 года назад +23

    The comment about Timmy made me realise when Wilford says to Curtis he's the first one to travel the full length of the train he straight up lies lol. All the kids do the journey.

    • @shiftygirl6434
      @shiftygirl6434 4 года назад +10

      true, but he made it by himself out of his own free will, as opposed to the kids, who were prisoners

  • @lexcyrose5376
    @lexcyrose5376 4 года назад +17

    I watched the Rhino video and came right after, now I'm even more mindblowned... I'm 99.999% convinced these two movies are connected

  • @Brandon-oo3jr
    @Brandon-oo3jr 4 года назад +18

    Also, 7 is the atomic number of nitrogen on the periodic table. This fits in well still. Nitrogen freezes things and is also used in wart removal.

    • @johnmurray8379
      @johnmurray8379 4 года назад +1

      NERD 🤓

    • @Brandon-oo3jr
      @Brandon-oo3jr 4 года назад +1

      @@johnmurray8379 nah, I had a periodic table right in front of me. After I finished chemistry for the year I didn't bother remembering anything. Lol

    • @johnmurray8379
      @johnmurray8379 4 года назад +2

      @brandon that’s how u pass an exam kids

  • @gartoonanimation6002
    @gartoonanimation6002 4 года назад +49

    Okay you got me on the music.. I saw the rhino vid before this one. The theory was fun and all, but now I’m fuckin sure dude. That’s just tooooo much of a coincidence.

    • @kellyscargill
      @kellyscargill 4 года назад +5

      It was the music in this vid and the kid sized spaces in the other that both got me 🤯

    • @laurencehoffelder1579
      @laurencehoffelder1579 4 года назад +2

      I unfortunately don't trust the music as evidence anymore, since the new Star Wars movies where Snoke shared the music theme with Darth Plagueis but as we all now that came to nothing. Not that this theory would ever become canon in the first place but it's still nice to discuss^^.

    • @makimaki6212
      @makimaki6212 3 года назад

      @@laurencehoffelder1579 i mean- its still worth a shot. Star wars is one thing but thrs a lot of musical themes that are connected.

    • @aivreescend7945
      @aivreescend7945 2 года назад

      @@laurencehoffelder1579 i know that i'm replying to a year old comment but the star wars trilogy is known for it's haphazardness of smashing things together at the last second, so it might be something initially but got lost in the production and never addressed after that. It kind of a moot point.

  • @osver
    @osver 4 года назад +37

    Pretty sure I’m not the only person to notice this, but the snow piercer tv show teaser plays pure imagination at the end. ‼️‼️‼️

    • @SkipaDaFlipa
      @SkipaDaFlipa 4 года назад

      Osver Fernandez wait there’s a tv show?

    • @osver
      @osver 4 года назад

      SkippaDaFlippa yeah it comes out in May I think

    • @Steve_in_NJ
      @Steve_in_NJ 4 года назад

      @@SkipaDaFlipa Not sure if April or May 2020 but pretty sure it will be on TNT.

    • @knox7945
      @knox7945 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/l75luJ5iyoA/видео.html
      It's kinda crazy that they've used Pure Imagination in the trailer.

  • @kreature7946
    @kreature7946 3 года назад +17

    I wouldn’t say Snow Piercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka, but I can almost guarantee it was heavily influenced by it. A great example of this is the fact that the Japanese game developers for Silent Hill designed A LOT of the games environment from the scenery in the move Kindergarten Cop.

    • @MrVolreg
      @MrVolreg 3 года назад

      yeah specially the posters inside the school ! the dog one if i remember correctly is just a copy paste from the movie

  • @gump5ter01
    @gump5ter01 4 года назад +23

    I don’t think it’s made as a direct sequel but I do think the director was using Ww as a reference. Maybe his idea of a darker take on the story of Charlie.

  • @SlyYevon
    @SlyYevon 5 лет назад +24

    Something minor, but notice in the remake that it is constantly snowing, and the family huddles together as if the world is getting colder.

  • @jasonhughes5346
    @jasonhughes5346 5 лет назад +23

    Any body notice how disgusted he is when he sees the protein bars are made from bugs.... when he has ate humans....

    • @elisabethratna10
      @elisabethratna10 5 лет назад

      Those were supposed to be human's poops but later they changed it because it's too much

  • @itsjustgary407_7
    @itsjustgary407_7 Год назад +32

    I don’t care what y’all say the parallels are just too startling.