Exploring the Ciat-Lonbarde Quatrax
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The Ciat-Lonbarde Quatrax is the latest in the series of organ-style instruments created by Peter Blasser. It is the biggest and most varied sounding of them, and I got to explore a loaned instrument (thanks to Patch Point patch-point.co...) when I performed with @ensemblerecherche last February.
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Hi Hainbach, outstanding channel !!!. Due to your music and videos....ended with all Ciat family instruments , even Palmelund Ample and Controller ( last included a trip to Denmark where personal meeting with Anders, really nice guy. I was traveling with my wife in 20yr aniversary trip). I´ve read every CL forum, manual, etc but still trying to challenge a more musical integration with other music instruments / styles. It will be really helpful if you could post a different tuning scales (and the way to do it fast ..ja ja) strategies between all CL organs ( quadrax, sidrax, tetra, deer horn) in order to achieve an Big Integrated Ensemble. The timbre and pitch changes over gestures and piezo ¨touches ¨ are vast to explore and difficult to match. Again, congrats for your music and work! Cheers from Buenos Aires. Have a nice day! Santi M.
Ever since you stopped doing premieres I essentially get a Hainbach jumpscare some Mondays and I kinda love it lol
Yeah after that premiere bug experience I make premieres only very rarely
As fun as it is to interact in the chat of the premieres, I personally think that the sudden video drops are more exciting
I love when you don’t do a premiere It often happens to get lost in my feed
Using piezos for cv is brilliant. What a simple but profound way to bridge the electroacoustic gap!
I love things that bridge that gap. I just picked up a Meng Qi Wingie2 and find it absolutely gorgeous when you run slightly out of tune acoustic instruments through it.
Something tells me these two instruments together would be great together
@@WVLFRVN I have to take a look into that. My current love is the more mainstream Expressive E Osmose - it has the intuitive performative aspects of an acoustic instrument but the immediacy of a synth - of course, it's a very different world than these experimental gems. :)
Always thought the voltage levels on modular were meant to take piezos i.e. 1:34 drum triggers. But I know diddley squat
im wondering if you ever run into feedback issues blasting this off a fat pa
What surprised me most about the sidrax is that it plays like a percussion instrument. It is hard to understand that thru watching the videos. It is like you are hearing the wood which is in some ways true I believe. I have always drummed on any desk I ever sat at in school and I feel like Peter planted an imagination into a desk bc now my desk is an instrument. Even without tuning you can play it like a wild snare drum. Thank you for sharing HB.
You're such a gem in the synth community. Have a nice day, Hainbach!
This, this is, what I believe, the future of instruments. Ambient like music seems to be timeless. Maybe it's because it reminds me so much of the natures ambient atmosphere. Like wind blowing through a cave slit or the sounds of small river spring.
Das ist so ziemlich eines der coolsten Instrumente bzw. Synths, die ich je gesehen bzw. gehört habe!
Sehr inspirierend!!
Also, a lovely dip into a very unique experimental world of sound and music making.
I appreciate that you comment about needing to practice these sort of complex instruments. They are clearly not for those who just want a quick sound. But the tradeoff is a richness of understanding that unlocks ideas and sounds you can only come across with experience and knowing what your instrument excels at or is less equipped to do - and then even having the insight from experience in to how to turn those weaknesses into strengths.
I agree with you on that. It is ultimately rewarding.
Just a bye the way. The green jacks on all of these instruments, which are stated to make glitches, are actually doing Peter Blasser style bounds modulation.
I really need to try one. This is so up my street. Really everything about it. That ondes sensitivity. The tone and chaos. Lovely demo and amazing work with the ensemble.
Thanks! It will be here waiting for you!
What a beautiful instrument.
Heinbach bekommt alle meine Daumen
Ah, I find these Ciat-Lonbarde instruments so desirable!!
Peter Blasser ❤️🔥🔥
Gnarly, dude!
another glorious CL instrument i will never afford lol One day one day ! i did build some of his paper circuits, super fun.
i like the solo part!
These things and the Soma things are the future of things!
There's something about its detuned and warm sound. I made an album using only sounds from the Tetrax and it turned into my most emotional recording so far. Sampling the Tetrax makes it much more powerful since it only has four keys.
I had a cocoquantus for a couple years, but I parted with it because I could never reliably get it to sound good. The preamp in it is infinitesimally touchy, and unfortunately it clips in a way that I found unmusical. Every five or six power cycles, the buffers would contain a loud buzzing noise that for some reason could not be cleared until the unit’s power cycled again. I was also fairly unimpressed with the build quality: it had a few loose banana jacks (all of the 3.5 mm jacks were loose), and the edges on the woodwork were rough and splinters formed often. There certainly was some unique magic that would show its face every once in a while, but I never did get the hang of making it appear every time. I think the controls were a bit too small and wobbly for my large fingers. Perhaps one day I’ll give in another shot. I do love hearing what you do with all this CL stuff!
If it is like a wet modulation fart I know that noise - happened to me only if daisy chained the power supply to other CL or used a multi supply. But I have not experience unmusical overdrive, loose jacks or splinters at all. Mine has been going strong despite touring the world in my backpack. So something must have been wrong with that unit.
@@Hainbach maybe I should give it another shot…
The tuning sliders were an evolution from the more chaotic design of the Tetrazzi and earlier piezo bar instruments Peter Blasser designed. Tetrazzi, which I love, had larger wooden bars, but no sliders. It had four red buttons that when pressed and released yielded a new random pitch. So it took a different approach altogether to tuning and had to be played accordingly. I played it solo once in a duet with a dancer.
Yeah I saw that instrument first at a modular meet at Kent’s in Hamburg - fascinating how it started!
This is wonderful. Thank you!
Beautiful sounds
If breathing on it will get a response, it would be interesting to run fans or something in front of the keys.
Suh dude! Sounds epic! Makes me wanna go play some bumper pool!
Wonderful and obviously not a mainstream instrument.
I've been looking for a genuinely performative synth for a long time (my background is classical performance) and this looks like my dream! Too bad I need money to eat 😢
I would imagine feedback being an issue on a larger system with subs nearby. I guess using some high density foam and squash balls (similar to turntable isolation) would be handy on the bigger shows. Amazing tones. Cheers!
Never had problems, even in a club setting. But if you want avoid accidental hits when you clank you beer bottle to hard next to it a little isolation helps.
Dearest hainbach….. I absolutely love your ciat videos they are great… I’d love a deep dive video of how you personally would use the cocoquantus standalone with perhaps field recording and one synth? I know there’s a ton of coco vids but they are usually paired with tons of kit and it’s quite hard to see what’s going on… and as a cocoquantus owner… after many many years of saving and convincing my mrs that I wasn’t urinating my £ up a wall… I’ve got one and really want to use it to its full extent… anyhow keep up the good work mate 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔥
Have you seen my very early Coco video?: ruclips.net/video/z0KoI95DfZU/видео.htmlsi=pfr21HIisrhJ1Ip8
Or this: its just one synth and the Coco: ruclips.net/video/T6YrXKOWQOw/видео.htmlsi=e48_R1WIVVfun1DW
But there is so much to explore with Coco, just try modulating everything with everything and again.
The first few seconds sounded almost exactly like the song "12:18" from global communication!
Sehr schönes Video und Darstellung der Möglichkeiten...Orchestrale Klänge sowie sehr "ausserirdisch" anmutende Klangfarben gepaart mit etwas das man irgendwoher kennt.
Die CL Geräte sind schon was tolles, irgendwann vielleicht 🙂
In welchem Stadtteil in Freiburg bist du den aufgewachsen ? ( Bobbele hier...hehe )
Viele Grüße
Aufgewachsen nebenan in Denzlingen 😊
Silly question alert!
How do you replicate patched sounds? I would never be able to remember exactly where each cable was plugged into unless it was a simple setup, is there some form of notation, or do you just have to have a great memory? As you can tell, i don't know a whole lot about these kinds of devices, the patching thing freaks me out a little
The markers help, but afterwards it is very hard. But I take video and save that for reference
@@Hainbach ah, all part of the nature of the device, interesting! Thanks.
Ach das Jazzhouse, hätte ich das mal gewusst, wäre ich gekommen.
Grüsse aus Freiburg
Ich komme wieder! :-)
@@Hainbach Oh, ich hoffe das ist kein Terminator-Zitat :D ich checke bis dahin die Seite nach tour-daten
Danke für feedback
Beste Videos, wie immer
If it was possible I would've loved to have purchased an audio of the live concert on Bandcamp but I know it's not always the case.
You can watch it on my Patreon, but the show needs still mixing. It will find a proper release next year
@@HainbachI'll wait for the fully mixed and EQ'd beast - nothing less than the best!
Cool shirt
What was that gorgeous tape loop you were playing near the beginning? Is that released on one of your albums? I really want that in my life.
Taken from this record: hainbach.bandcamp.com/album/cello-pattern
Diminishing Moonlight
Much Desire ^_^
If you had 4 of those toy wind-up chattering teeth, or similar toys... and timed it so that you were always winding one up while the others chattered away... and someone else played the sliders and patch cables...
Anyway...
Oh I love this
Doesn't matter how it sounds, it just has to look pretty.
Super cool but also pretty niche
Which kind of describes most of the things on my channel 😄
@@Hainbach you’re amazing and I wouldn’t have it any other way! ❤️
I read bad things about tuning/callibrating this device? Is this true?
It’s is difficult to tune, as I say in the video, but once you know how it’s ok. once it’s tuned it’s stable too
👍👍👌
Had one of the smaller ones but did not keep it. It smelled so horrible. Whatever sealant they used was toxic.
you probably don't like the smell of hope's tung oil. it's not toxic.
I’m sure it’s not but it’s a horrible smell.
I love your works with ciat lombarde stuff but it really feels like the opposite of an approachable instrument. Its both unintuitive and expensive. But it only adds to the magic when I watch you perform
RUclips semst to think this is a toy, I got a Baby Born Ad in front of the video, not at all fitting to the immediate deep soundscape in the beginning
Well, customs officers think alike 😄
wow Bladerunner (original) vibes
Does the Nagra have some converters at input and output or is it stardard for that model 😮
It has Banana in/out like all Nagras.
@@Hainbach but it seems like 2 xlr in and 6,3mm and xlr out 🧐
No XLR out, that is a complex accessory out. And the 6.3 is headphone, the XLR ins are mic.
@@Hainbach I was hopefull that someone had made nagra-adapters :D I've built mini-bnc to mini-jack from pencil, lego-brick and a thonkiconn
I find CL so fascinating, but they seem like such "grown up" instruments from a player perspective, if that makes sense? I'm quite intimidated by them. Cracked me up that people at airports think they're toys 😅
They are also very playful and a joy to touch. Its just that you need to have a certain will to practice with them if you want to express yourself through them.
@@Hainbach oh, they look amazing and I'm sure it's lovely to play on wood rather than metal! I have some touch control interfaces that I enjoy, but the metal makes it a "cold" experience in a way. One day I hope I can commit to practicing with one of these CL instruments. The price is also a factor, definitely.
Great. Plumbutter video when? ;) haha
Oh my :-)
😂
zaddy
I'm sorry. While I have really liked your work before, I had to shut this off before 12 minutes had passed. These machines, which I assume are extremely expensive, sound thin and glitchy and appear to be impossible to play with any sort of control. What a waste of time.