I remember reading about this on a message board back in like 2005. The author of the post created a game with all AI players and just let it play out. Eventually there were 3 major powers at constant war with each other, much like the political situation in Orwell's 1984. Every country would dedicate most of its resources to the war effort, no money for food, people or infrastructure. Just throwing more tanks towards a front line that never moved. Thousands of years of fighting and starvation. Policies never changed, no country could afford to give in even the slightest bit lest the others take advantage. It was pure hell. It was glorious.
You must've read a different story. The reddit post he's talking about (and has a screenshot for) is from 2012; the post is still up. The OP didn't create a game with all AI players; he was an active participant.
I've been a Sid Meier fan since I was 11 (now 36). That guy looks like he hasn't aged a day how I remembered him from my teens. When I was a teen, I heard a rumor that he'd be signing autographs at a gaming event a few blocks over. Brought my Playstation copy of Civ II for him to sign. Unfortunately, it was a hoax. Lost my Civ II box at the event too. Double whammy. Other than that - thanks for the great memories Sid!
I made a apocalyptic graphics mod for the Eternal War savegame a few years ago on CivFanatics. Can't link to it though as youtube deletes my comment.. sigh..
@@max4750 Well since I can't link it to you here sadly, google "civfanatics eternal war competition" and a CivFanatics forum thread should come up first in results. Go there and go to the last page (3) of the thread and you'll see a few of my posts with screenshots and a download.
Decisions in the real world are made by people who live in the real world, and are stuck here, with no other world to go to if this one turns out badly. Decisions in a Civ world are made by people who live in the real world, either in real time by human players or effectively made in advance by AI programmers. Either way, these people play in a civ world for a time, but can leave it at any time they choose. So the stakes are different for the people making the decisions in a Civ world, so the decisions made in the Civ world will be different than those made in the real world, so I doubt that the results would ever become predictive.
There is indeed, I own a book somewhere which talks about the creation of civ and is an autobiography of sorts for Mr. Meier. Infact, it's called "Sid Meier's Memoir!: A Life In Computer Games." You might wanna look into that.
@@SimoniousB As opposed to the idea of "the human condition" and apocalyptic predictions of our future. Would you like a side of "life is pain" to go along with your oh so original antinatal nihilist burger?
This looks like an intriguing introduction to a fascinating documentary. Strange how it just ends mid-sentence almost.
I would love a civ documentary!
Same I'd love a documentary on how the series developed
Mr. Meier is such an inspiration to us all!
Indeed
This video deserves more recognition, we are in the presence of greatness, one of the fathers of PC Gaming, him and his team!
I remember reading about this on a message board back in like 2005. The author of the post created a game with all AI players and just let it play out. Eventually there were 3 major powers at constant war with each other, much like the political situation in Orwell's 1984. Every country would dedicate most of its resources to the war effort, no money for food, people or infrastructure. Just throwing more tanks towards a front line that never moved. Thousands of years of fighting and starvation. Policies never changed, no country could afford to give in even the slightest bit lest the others take advantage.
It was pure hell. It was glorious.
You must've read a different story. The reddit post he's talking about (and has a screenshot for) is from 2012; the post is still up. The OP didn't create a game with all AI players; he was an active participant.
I've been a Sid Meier fan since I was 11 (now 36). That guy looks like he hasn't aged a day how I remembered him from my teens.
When I was a teen, I heard a rumor that he'd be signing autographs at a gaming event a few blocks over. Brought my Playstation copy of Civ II for him to sign. Unfortunately, it was a hoax. Lost my Civ II box at the event too. Double whammy.
Other than that - thanks for the great memories Sid!
Makes me want to re install civ2 again.
How nice to hear from this man again. :)
Sid is a true OG 🤘😎
I made a apocalyptic graphics mod for the Eternal War savegame a few years ago on CivFanatics. Can't link to it though as youtube deletes my comment.. sigh..
Where I find that?
@@max4750 Well since I can't link it to you here sadly, google "civfanatics eternal war competition" and a CivFanatics forum thread should come up first in results. Go there and go to the last page (3) of the thread and you'll see a few of my posts with screenshots and a download.
Yeah id be interesrested in that
@@max4750 I wrote a detailed link free reply to you saying how to find it and youtube still deleted the comment. So annoying..
@@mickchem5277 unfortunately youtube isn't letting me tell you guys.
"It's not really a predictor of the future of mankind", tell that to Dick Cheney I swore he thought the world was a game of civilization.
Decisions in the real world are made by people who live in the real world, and are stuck here, with no other world to go to if this one turns out badly.
Decisions in a Civ world are made by people who live in the real world, either in real time by human players or effectively made in advance by AI programmers. Either way, these people play in a civ world for a time, but can leave it at any time they choose. So the stakes are different for the people making the decisions in a Civ world, so the decisions made in the Civ world will be different than those made in the real world, so I doubt that the results would ever become predictive.
What a legend
A mechanic where you decide with your actions, if your futuristic civilization ends up as a Utopia or Dystopia might be interesting.
Was there a book on the history of civ? Would love to know how the tech tree was initially developed, was it bootstrapped from somewhere?
There is indeed, I own a book somewhere which talks about the creation of civ and is an autobiography of sorts for Mr. Meier. Infact, it's called "Sid Meier's Memoir!: A Life In Computer Games." You might wanna look into that.
I enjoyed thousands of hours of this AMAZING series! Thank you Mr. Meier!
Not a predictor of the future? Maybe not the way /you/ play it 😜
NOW he tells us! 33 years too late....
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Eternal war? Civ 40k?
Video games are gonna be sick when actual AI is developed
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Is this the fate of mankind, yes! Humanity maybe not. We can change our pronatalist ways, if we can unweave it from our minds. Love your work, Sid.
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@@SpahGaming how original
@@SimoniousB As opposed to the idea of "the human condition" and apocalyptic predictions of our future. Would you like a side of "life is pain" to go along with your oh so original antinatal nihilist burger?
@@SpahGaming of course
Reboot Sid miers gettysburg