Chris Harris on... Restomods: Singer 911, Alfaholics GTA-R, Eagle Lightweight GT | Top Gear

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  • Classics. Restomods. Replicas. Continuations. All have the gorgeous vintage looks, but each is fundamentally different under the skin. Chris Harris and Top Gear Magazine editor Jack Rix discuss the differences of things like the Alfaholics GTA-R, Eagle Lightweight GT and GTO Engineering's recreation of the Ferrari 250 SWB.
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Комментарии • 689

  • @chilidrummer8333
    @chilidrummer8333 3 года назад +928

    Here he surprises me again: Pep Guardiola with his knowledge and love for cars

  • @daniel635biturbo
    @daniel635biturbo 3 года назад +2

    BMW 635Csi with a enhanced version of the Alpina B10 Bi-Turbo engine, producing 500hp.
    Rack and Pinion steering, big brakes manual gearbox and a proper limited slip diff.
    Yes, my own car :)

  • @olivergriffiths4445
    @olivergriffiths4445 3 года назад +1

    absolutely love these guys conversations.

  • @TheTruthKiwi
    @TheTruthKiwi 3 года назад +5

    Supercharged Alfa Gulia QV motor in an AWD lowered and widebody Alfa 155

  • @jamiewilkinsracing
    @jamiewilkinsracing 3 года назад

    Restomods, I think, are the answer to the problem of "Don't meet your heroes, because they'll disappoint you". Nothing from the 70s, 80s or even 90s will live up to modern expectations of performance, handling, braking or reliability, so the cars we put on pedestals and worship will feel crap when we finally get to drive them. Restomods solve that and I think they're fantastic.

  • @E7DMG
    @E7DMG 3 года назад +1

    Owning a 300bhp Jaguar MK2 4.2 (uprated from 3.8) Vicarage restomod I've got to say they get my vote!

  • @jt7937
    @jt7937 3 года назад +3

    Resto-sure.. Harris Continuations his talks as an absolute Classic

  • @hell5torm
    @hell5torm 3 года назад

    The younger guy just sound like he doesn’t understand driving, cars or balance when he starts mashing up all the cars and engines at the end. Like everything that’s wrong with car culture today, bigger car, bigger engine, bigger wheels, bigger grill, bigger noise, bigger price tag, just BIGGER with less sense. Then you have Chris, who understands finesse and engineering, has an excellent understanding of why cars work and what would drive well, plus a great appreciation for history and proper style. Kudos Chris

  • @mej6519
    @mej6519 3 года назад

    love what the retropower guys are doing at the mo.

  • @marvinsamuels1237
    @marvinsamuels1237 3 года назад

    Cracking! I agree, you’ve got to use components from the same manufacturer. Although not following those rules, I always wanted to do a Triumph Stag with a modern low capacity V8, possibly M60 in 3 and 4 litre forms. Not rocket ships but a big improvement on the original.

  • @henrikcarlsen1881
    @henrikcarlsen1881 3 года назад

    The Peugeot + Honda sounds absolutely right.

  • @aukanmeister
    @aukanmeister 3 года назад

    I can’t help myself but to throw in a few suggestions on my own:
    Citroen SM with the «half Ferrari» engine from the new Alfa.. mmm.
    Or
    Citroen DS with some small turbocharged 3 cylinder like the GR Yaris. With an auto. Smoooooth, cool and beautiful.
    Or
    Alfa Romeo from the 60’s with the cheese grader front and big headlights(I know, but there is nothing for it. Just so beatiful) with something N/A that revs to 11000 rpm. Rather some smaller high reving thing than too big and heavy. H pattern with gated shifter. With all the alfaholics titanium, chassis mods, suspension and brakes thingies on it. Just because they do it so well.

  • @Anolbea
    @Anolbea 3 года назад

    I agree about the Peugeot/ K20A2 Honda hybrid.

  • @cubix626
    @cubix626 3 года назад

    I love these videos, reminds me of /drive when they used to talk at Manhattan car club

  • @rwvandijk1995
    @rwvandijk1995 3 года назад +3

    How about Morgan that have been making old-looking cars for ages with modern engines!?

    • @veryrare7647
      @veryrare7647 3 года назад

      id just call that retro styling since its all new parts

  • @burnzy3210
    @burnzy3210 3 года назад

    yeah the 205 with a spicy late 90's honda engine sounds like a good combo

  • @ZeeBri
    @ZeeBri 3 года назад

    Absolutely love this series

  • @the710salmonuwu7
    @the710salmonuwu7 3 года назад

    OY... WHAT ABOUT THE CYAN ROADSTER IN THE TITLE? Beautiful $500k P1800 Volvo

  • @josephmatuszak3855
    @josephmatuszak3855 3 года назад

    Not as a flame or knock, but a "RestoMod" is a restoration of an old car with new equipment. Not really the other way around. If the car is made to look old, but is all new it's just a "RetroMod."

  • @scousewillo62
    @scousewillo62 3 года назад

    More of this please. Cracking bit of chat

  • @Audidude
    @Audidude 3 года назад

    Peugeot 205 with Honda Type R running gear and gearchange! Almost as perfect as a Honda Integra Type R DC2 JDM with that gear 👌. Like the one in my shed 👍👍

  • @johnmcdermott5505
    @johnmcdermott5505 3 года назад +2

    LP400 restomod would work nice with a Gallardo V10.

    • @bingoberra18
      @bingoberra18 3 года назад

      I´d probably want a Murcielago V12. Crazy enough and still almost the same engine, but not as crazy as an aventador.

  • @rolandodones6552
    @rolandodones6552 3 года назад

    Id take a TR4 on British Racing Green with a hakosuka straight 6 and modern suspension upgrades and im good

  • @LoftechUK
    @LoftechUK 3 года назад

    That was a great interview

  • @marcel-nl
    @marcel-nl 3 года назад

    What about an ‘80s Aston Martin Lagonda with modern technic?

  • @jondonnelly3
    @jondonnelly3 3 года назад

    I love the Singer.

  • @paulv22
    @paulv22 3 года назад

    I have to say, I disagree with his definition of restomod. I think most would agree a restomod is an older car that's had a more modern engine, suspension and brakes added. A BMW 2002 with an S14 engine and running gear from more modern BMWs would be an example, or any number of 60s era American cars with new crate engines added.

  • @fadil_mirai6334
    @fadil_mirai6334 3 года назад

    These 2 gents and stig is what i associated with the current Top Gear. I think Top Gear should stop recreating those challenges type TV Show, that will only work with the original trio of May, Jeremy, and Hammond. They should make more of these videos and chris harris drives.

  • @carnaj66
    @carnaj66 3 года назад +1

    Mercedes Pagoda pimped up please.

  • @Singdollar
    @Singdollar 3 года назад

    W124 with a modern amg engine would be something I’d like to do

  • @vanoscrap6296
    @vanoscrap6296 3 года назад

    that fan buzz in the background is unacceptably painful in the long run. Come on, sound engineer...

  • @jackpalczynski7884
    @jackpalczynski7884 3 года назад

    Restomod....wrong. A restomod is an old car updated. Example would be a 67 Camaro with modern suspension, bigger and wider wheels and tires and an LS7 engine. It isn't a newer car made to look old.

  • @maxtorque2277
    @maxtorque2277 3 года назад +1

    "Peugeot has nothing of any merit" GET OUT HARRIS!!! Have you forgotten that their fwd tarmac 306's beat the 4wd turbo WRC cars using the N/A 2.0 16v engine, in higher than the then touring car spec, reving to just under 9k and making very nearly 300 bhp!!!!. With it's 86x86 bore to stroke and wide cylinder spacing allowing futher over-squaring, and most critically hugely generously size tappets allowing the use a cams with super aggressive lift and accelerations, and a lovely, compact, big valve cylinder head running at decent 11.5:1 compression ratio.......

  • @8O0I0O8
    @8O0I0O8 3 года назад +466

    The roast about the Ferrari engine inside the Lambo. lmao.
    Chris is the man!

    • @carcrashcompilation9459
      @carcrashcompilation9459 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/QKCX1eIZQ6k/видео.html

    • @richardcarter8801
      @richardcarter8801 3 года назад +23

      That comment wasn't at all accurate though was it? The Countach is mid-engined, not rear-engined, so in fact the engine would not be the wrong way around at all. And even if it was, Ferrari takes drive out of the front of the same engine in the GTC4lusso, so it wouldn't matter anyway. Furthermore, previous generation port-injected versions of the same engine and even the direct-injected version in the 599 could be optioned with manual boxes, so that would not be out of the question either I'm sure. All of this ignores the fact that exactly the same engine, presumably with minor alterations (e.g. cams, intake and exhaust and ECU map) is mid-mounted in the Ferrari laferrari AND the Apollo!
      These videos are doing their very best to convince me that Chris is really just a bit of a grumpy old git now, as much as I don't want to believe it. Come on, a little enthusiasm and fewer snide comments would be really appreciated!

    • @8O0I0O8
      @8O0I0O8 3 года назад +2

      @@richardcarter8801 You would certainly be able to fit an engine in the enginebay of the lambo, but probably not the one he wanted since the gearbox is quite a long one. Could probably get another one, but would be tricky to get it right with the driveshaft positions.
      It's probably doable, but loads of work when you can just put any other rear engine into it way easier.
      But what do I know. I only work on my old merc and VW, that's a whole different beast. :D
      I agree with you though, Chris is a bit grumpy lately.

    • @everything777
      @everything777 3 года назад +8

      @@richardcarter8801 agree. Homourless, jaded and arrogant are the 3 words that spring to mind to describe him now

    • @conorw1989
      @conorw1989 3 года назад +4

      He was being a complete arsehole there.

  • @rohanbanerjee_
    @rohanbanerjee_ 3 года назад +234

    Why didn’t anyone mention the Volvo p1800?? That’s a great restomod!!!

    • @TheBuster95
      @TheBuster95 3 года назад +3

      with the volvo B30 straight 6 👍

    • @mhorlor
      @mhorlor 3 года назад +6

      @@TheBuster95 also could consider a T5 from 90’s 850 touring car...?? Suit me, sir.

    • @boom-zr2dz
      @boom-zr2dz 3 года назад +22

      The video was probably made before the release of the Cyan P1800.

    • @TheBuster95
      @TheBuster95 3 года назад +1

      @@mhorlor Even better 👌

    • @talltrini10
      @talltrini10 3 года назад

      Came JUST to post this very thing

  • @mrmcbeardy9268
    @mrmcbeardy9268 3 года назад +42

    As a restorer and custom builder of motorcycles, I can emphatically say that "Resto-Mod" applies more to older vehicles that are restored with slight modernised modifications included in the process (i.e. Restored-Modified)... not just newer vehicles made to look more vintage as Chris stated (all due respect to Mr Harris, he's an absolute gentleman and a scholar and knows his cars). Great vid. Cheers from Aussieland 🤙🍻

    • @thisguy8100
      @thisguy8100 Год назад +4

      I agree that caught my ear too

    • @unclebanga5976
      @unclebanga5976 Год назад +1

      Agree. Solid comment mate. Also from the land down under.

    • @imagiben
      @imagiben 8 месяцев назад

      Totally agree and super surprised that Chris doesn't immediately clarify the difference between: "restomods" as a OLD TO NEW specific thing > restoring an old vehicle by enhancing it with newer technologies to improve its performance > ALFAHOLICS or MST for exemple, VS "backdating" as a more NEW TO OLD casual thing > give a recent vehicle a vintage look thanks to aesthetic customization > very common on the Porsche scene, particularly with, for example, the large number of 964 or 911 type Gs aesthetically dressed in a classic way /front and rear bumpers, fenders, wheels, etc... And sometimes, talented entrepreneurs combine the two, by deciding to push the sliders to the max > SINGER or RUF as sports car manufacturer, correct ?! Anyway, truly and full respect for Chris 🙌. Cheers 🏁

  • @TrueSoltani
    @TrueSoltani 3 года назад +207

    I love these 10min conversations with Chris

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 3 года назад

      You can catch the Joe Rogan Podcast on Spotify now!

    • @JasonX2
      @JasonX2 3 года назад +6

      @@dragospahontu if you want to be bored and listen to 20 minutes of ads

    • @o2i3u5klwerh8
      @o2i3u5klwerh8 3 года назад

      It’s Pepe guardiola

    • @slonky821
      @slonky821 3 года назад

      @@dragospahontu that's old

    • @kendoskeg11
      @kendoskeg11 3 года назад

      Same. Love it

  • @IlRovina
    @IlRovina 3 года назад +62

    He starts looking bored and forced to be there, then the right question lights him up, and he ends up talking about an old scrappy Peugeot with eyes shining.

    • @martinhami3
      @martinhami3 3 года назад +7

      Yeah was thinking the same, looked a little bored, tired and washed out. Then, you can see that sparkle with the right question.

    • @bingoberra18
      @bingoberra18 3 года назад +3

      A rough around the edges 16v 205 is all you need in life :D

    • @michaeleaster1815
      @michaeleaster1815 3 года назад +3

      He's a tough interview... I find his dismissive attitude to be rude and off-putting.

    • @salvi1398
      @salvi1398 3 года назад +3

      @@michaeleaster1815 I find it honest and real, not some fake smile put on just for the sake of tv

    • @Audidude
      @Audidude 3 года назад +2

      @@michaeleaster1815 you're misinterpreting him.

  • @radovicdragan
    @radovicdragan 3 года назад +70

    Shouldn’t restomod be an older car, upgraded functionally to newer spec while continuing the vintage look as much as possible? Like Singers?

    • @chriscarbaugh3936
      @chriscarbaugh3936 3 года назад +8

      Exactly; although a Singer is a newer car trying to look older; backdate in my book. Not the real thing; ... then again I have a ‘71T w a 3.8 stuffed in it 👍

    • @89turbo
      @89turbo 3 года назад +21

      Restoration + Modify = restomod ! It's simple.

    • @arjun._.bbC6
      @arjun._.bbC6 3 года назад +1

      @@chriscarbaugh3936 not entirely. They've taken old 964s, restored them, and modified them to modern standards with fresh engineering. By that example, Harris is wrong.

    • @maxjelley4055
      @maxjelley4055 3 года назад +2

      @@chriscarbaugh3936 I just bought a mini and a 4.2 rover small block. And rent is due ...

    • @philspaghet
      @philspaghet 3 года назад +1

      @@chriscarbaugh3936 No, Singers are based on old Porsches first

  • @vernonhampton6973
    @vernonhampton6973 3 года назад +203

    Can we all just agree that Chris Harris is an international treasure?

    • @th3b0untyhunter
      @th3b0untyhunter 3 года назад +3

      Not really.
      For starters he got an awful lot of info wrong in this video

    • @ThatGuyinAnotherHatch
      @ThatGuyinAnotherHatch 3 года назад +4

      No. He's literally terrible. I honestly dont understand how anyone likes this guy.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 года назад +6

      @@ThatGuyinAnotherHatch because he's honest, knows his facts and whenever anyone tries to haul him up, they end up looking silly.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 года назад +5

      @@th3b0untyhunter how? What did he get wrong?

    • @remivpei
      @remivpei 3 года назад +3

      The guy is becoming annoying at this point and way overhyped. He only knows to be negative about almost every single topic. The grumpy and groggy auto journalist. Never cheerful or pleasant.

  • @harshsonawane6076
    @harshsonawane6076 3 года назад +128

    Poor jack got roasted by Chris a little😂

    • @jamiewilkinsracing
      @jamiewilkinsracing 3 года назад +1

      Again!

    • @jammasterflash9448
      @jammasterflash9448 3 года назад +14

      Just can’t stop wishing Jack would shut up, stop interrupting and let Chris talk!

    • @bingoberra18
      @bingoberra18 3 года назад

      I think he did great in this one, but I am sad they didnt stay within brand for the resto engines.

    • @rowanhawklan9707
      @rowanhawklan9707 3 года назад +2

      Jack deserves it.

    • @kristjanveski
      @kristjanveski 3 года назад +5

      I always get the impression Chris doesn't much care to talk to him

  • @snape1464
    @snape1464 3 года назад +96

    I'd rather have the 6.2 AMG engine in that 500E, but to each their own

    • @eylonemuskson4177
      @eylonemuskson4177 3 года назад +7

      YES! I was yelling at the screen for that.
      Always dreamed of doing that - and calling it the _AMG SLEDGEHAMMER_ :drool:

    • @marlysteckelbruck4113
      @marlysteckelbruck4113 3 года назад

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @hansoloyolo3274
      @hansoloyolo3274 3 года назад

      Paint it black, give the amg hammer wheels, slightly wide arches and call it the hammer restomod. Done lol

    • @SamAbraham
      @SamAbraham 3 года назад

      Perfection

    • @basmca1
      @basmca1 3 года назад

      The 6.7 version they use in the Zonda!
      Sounds like the fury of a 1000 lions.

  • @DrCrunkMusic
    @DrCrunkMusic 3 года назад +66

    The alfaholics cars are nuts, for me the only one worth remotely the asking price. I'd sell limbs and property and w.e. To own one.

    • @codemy666
      @codemy666 3 года назад

      Well what are you waiting for? start selling :D

    • @DrCrunkMusic
      @DrCrunkMusic 3 года назад +1

      @@codemy666 I'm trying I'm trying lol

    • @DrCrunkMusic
      @DrCrunkMusic 3 года назад +3

      @@codemy666 on that note are you interested in a kidney? 😂

    • @911JEC
      @911JEC 3 года назад +1

      Have a listen to a Singer DSL. Might change your mind.

    • @th3b0untyhunter
      @th3b0untyhunter 3 года назад +1

      @@911JEC just the engine in a DSL version of the Singer is more £££ than an entire Alfaholics GTA-R 290

  • @JanMichaelFranklin
    @JanMichaelFranklin 3 года назад +38

    Sounds like Chris is mixing up restomod and backdate.

    • @carcrashcompilation9459
      @carcrashcompilation9459 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/QKCX1eIZQ6k/видео.html

    • @richardjones38
      @richardjones38 3 года назад +12

      I totally agree. A restomod is a restored old car with newer technology under the skin. The term has been around a lot longer then 'designer' custom car shops have been applying it to toys for billionaires. It's straight out of the hot rod world. Does the 'backdate' thing exist as a style of building cars or a type of car anywhere outside the 911 and maybe the Jag world? It is just something that people have done inmost or maybe all classic car scenes for ever. Typically replacing impact bumpers with what preceeded them, and or fitting some older style trim or panels. Chirs - I like your TV and reviews a lot, and I love Singer 911's (even though I also think the whole 'billionaire budget custom car' thing is kind of ruining things for the custom car builder with a more typical budget), but your lack of a modified car / car building background shows through here!

    • @JanMichaelFranklin
      @JanMichaelFranklin 3 года назад

      @@richardjones38 good point about Porsche and backdating. Some brands do mild backdating because of the big bumper changeover (280Z to 240Z, Alpha Romeo, Jaguar, etc) but nobody does this to the extent that Porsche does. I believe this is because of the long tenure of the air-cooled 911 body.

    • @JanMichaelFranklin
      @JanMichaelFranklin 3 года назад +3

      @Mike Mac To be truthful, Singer is really both.

    • @dipren443
      @dipren443 3 года назад +3

      @@JanMichaelFranklin very much so. 964 body, long hood (backdate) with all sorts of modern tech applied.

  • @HG504X
    @HG504X 3 года назад +33

    The Singer DLS has to be one of the best restomod style cars we've ever had. Its absolutely stunning

    • @Gaudine
      @Gaudine 3 года назад +4

      Not really. The body is way too wide. They took the earliest designs but they had to widen it. The first 911 was an elegant car. The DLS looks silly.

    • @jackcurtis3437
      @jackcurtis3437 3 года назад

      I agree, the one from a few years ago at the Goodwood FoS, with the red paint and the Fuch's wheels with the 70 painted on the inside and on the body was incredible, i believe to represent 70 years of porsche.

    • @iiredeyeiiredeye1569
      @iiredeyeiiredeye1569 3 года назад

      The DLS is a very special thing, an amazing amount of attention to detail has gone into that car.

    • @Gaudine
      @Gaudine 3 года назад

      @@iiredeyeiiredeye1569 attention to detail does not mean the end result is beautiful. I get that looks are subjective but it’s not pleasing to look at.

    • @iiredeyeiiredeye1569
      @iiredeyeiiredeye1569 3 года назад

      @@Gaudine Maybe because you haven't seen it as close up as I have?

  • @novousuarionaoidentificado
    @novousuarionaoidentificado 3 года назад +15

    The difference in authority on the subject between them can be distracting, but Chris' passion can't be missed.

  • @MafiaboysWorld
    @MafiaboysWorld 3 года назад +9

    Chris Harris needs to drive the Alfarrari being built by "Home Built By Jeff" once it's done, a Ferrari 360 Modena engine in a little 60s Alfa, that's going to be an absolute weapon. 😎👍

    • @Gari.Hughes
      @Gari.Hughes 3 года назад

      Probably gonna be a few years off yet.

  • @petervanriet5389
    @petervanriet5389 3 года назад +14

    Lancia Beta Montecarlo with a later version of the Lampredi-engine (same block, so should fit) plus proper brakes off course.

  • @PureDriveTV
    @PureDriveTV 3 года назад +80

    Who cares about 0-100 times in a Tesla, Taycan or some supercar, when you can drive real, pure and emotional cars like these. Love it!🙏❤️

    • @carcrashcompilation9459
      @carcrashcompilation9459 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/QKCX1eIZQ6k/видео.html

    • @drdoomgoat38
      @drdoomgoat38 3 года назад

      I care.A lot.These old cars were way before I was born so I don't have any nostalgia towards them.992 turbo s all day, anyday over a Singer 911.

    • @SgtSeth
      @SgtSeth 3 года назад +2

      Cost, really. Even though Tesla, Taycans and other cars are expensive, these restomods are 2-10x more expensive.

    • @davidnicholson6680
      @davidnicholson6680 3 года назад

      ... for 1.2MM. And everything is hand fitted so for God's sale don't thrash it.

    • @PureDriveTV
      @PureDriveTV 3 года назад +4

      drdoomgoat 38 I understand. And of course everything is a personal preference. So no right or wrong here. I just think it’s a shame that cars that can give you a real thrill and even be scary because they’re not equipped with all these electronic nannies and cars that let you, the driver do the work instead of 150 computers onboard are completely disappearing. Except for the new T50 from Gordon Murray..🙏 for me personally, when I drive the 992..even though I’m way faster on a lap with that thing, I enjoy “working” in a older (slower) 911 more. It’s just gives you more satisfaction, because you..the driver has the have complete control over the car.

  • @LarsAgerbk
    @LarsAgerbk 3 года назад +2

    1984 Lotus Esprit with the Turbo decal, square gullwing doors, dashboard from a late model Aston Martin Lagonda with a tachometer from a 1989 Buick Reatta and radio that only plays synthwave. Oh and the latest Tesla "engine" with the Star Wars woosh sound app.

    • @bingoberra18
      @bingoberra18 3 года назад +1

      Oh love the car choice but nooo tesla, IMO it should be a 1.5l Renault Turbo V6 from the F1 cars, with a 6-speed H pattern, but street friendly cam, modern turbo and ECU. Lets say 11krpm and 2,4 bar of boost or so :)

  • @MozOnBikes
    @MozOnBikes 3 года назад +6

    I think for the restomods when transplanting engine from one brand into another, some kind of tenuous link is needed between the brands and the engine to make it feel legit. Examples;
    Stuffing Honda engines into classic Minis is fine due to the link up with Honda and Rover in the late 80s/early 90s.
    Stuffing a McLaren 3.8 v8 into any S Platform Nissan such as a Silvia would be great as the McLaren engine can trace its routes back through Tom Walkinshaw Racing to the Nissan VRH engines used in many of the late 80s LeMans prototypes.
    Final example and possibly the most tenuous I can think of, Transplanting the turbo SAAB 9-5 B235 250hp engine into a Dolomite Sprint as that engines heritage starts with the Triumph Slant 4.
    I’m sure there are many more examples out there but I feel some kind of tenuous link is needed to justify a cross brand change.

    • @kieranjamieson
      @kieranjamieson 3 года назад

      It's getting easier as more and more car companies merge with each other, for example Fiat used to own Ferrari and now they've merged with Chrysler so a Ferrari engine in a Dodge Charger and a Hemi engine in a classic Ferrari is all fair game now...

    • @tomanderson6335
      @tomanderson6335 3 года назад +2

      @@kieranjamieson In that same vein, how about a Hellcat in an Opel Monza? Or an F154 V6 in a Peugeot 505? The formation of Stellantis opens up all kinds of fun mashup possibilities.

  • @brianneeley4471
    @brianneeley4471 3 года назад +67

    Best car guy , racer and host ever. He walked the walk and has the respect to talk it too.👍

    • @pigeonpoo1823
      @pigeonpoo1823 3 года назад +9

      99% agree. But he bangs on about SUVs, then has a G Wagon. I'm sure he is not unaware of the biblical levels of hypocrisy (regardless of his 'need') in such a purchase

    • @pigeonpoo1823
      @pigeonpoo1823 3 года назад

      by his own admission, he's done no rallying. So the mileage on the G must be zero? Otherwise he's a hypocrite

    • @pigeonpoo1823
      @pigeonpoo1823 3 года назад +2

      He said (basically) that we're gonna look back at the SUV craze with shame. And he's plumped for the most ostentatious of the lot. Then, you give him a free pass cos he's doing something with it you approve of. He can't bemoan their existence as he has, literally, voted with his own money for more to be produced. That is the definition of hypocrisy.

    • @jasonblevins9327
      @jasonblevins9327 3 года назад +5

      @@pigeonpoo1823 He has addressed it before. He feels like the G-Wagon is honest since it is big and bulky and boxy and not trying to be a sports car and an SUV like the others.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 года назад +1

      @@pigeonpoo1823 wrong, he has done rallying, he's got a couple of E30 rally cars, a 325i and an M3...

  • @Gorbyrev
    @Gorbyrev 3 года назад +2

    Was thinking 205 GTi as well. K20 is a good shout and perhaps a multilink setup at the rear to sort out the snap oversteer. I am also thinking about that AX GT he has in a barn. What engine is light enough, revs freely enough and is small enough to slot in there? Might aswell point this out but Chris Harris just recommended a FWD hot hatch as a perfect restomod.

  • @basmca1
    @basmca1 3 года назад +8

    That Alfaholics GTA is something special.

  • @GranDaddo
    @GranDaddo 3 года назад +1

    Any of the cars named above plus some new options like Lancia Aurelia with small V8, maybe BMW 635 CSI or Alpina B9 3.5, Peugeot 406 Coupe with potent engine, that Lancia Integrale restomod, something nice done with Jaguar XJ6 or XJS... so many options! But I would also be tempted to put one electric version to maybe older Rolls or Bentley.

  • @Jackbyrne77
    @Jackbyrne77 3 года назад +6

    I love how the host asks Chris Harris to explain the difference between each type of car and then proceeds to provide an example of a ‘restomod’ in complete contradiction to the explanation just given. Well played sir👍👍

  • @hockeymann88
    @hockeymann88 3 года назад +8

    How about DeTomaso Pantera with a coyote 5.0 and carbon fiber bodywork?

    • @NikesZ28
      @NikesZ28 3 года назад +1

      Nah, too small. Got to be an LS7 ;)

  • @UpsideDownFork
    @UpsideDownFork 3 года назад +1

    The W124 500E with the M119 V8 engine would accommodate the M113 V8 almost as a direct bolt in replacement, with very little work comparible to the newer 4.0 biturbo that Chris references.
    Don't forget the M113 featured in the SLR McLaren with a supercharger and over 600HP.
    Many many donor cars around, every E55K, CL55K, S55K and SL55K. They all have around 500hp from the factory but even with standard supercharger and injectors they can achieve a reliable 600hp with a smaller pulley on the charger and a remap.
    Also, arguably a better sound than the more modern AMG lump, especially when the older M113K had an X pipe fitted. Combination of supercharger scowl and V8 AMG burble... excellent!
    I think I'm onto something here.

  • @pereldh5741
    @pereldh5741 3 года назад +3

    Disagree w Harris here, there’s already lots of 205 GTI 16 around (engine from 405Mi16 or 309GTI16). Cracking engine, and period too!

    • @bingoberra18
      @bingoberra18 3 года назад

      EXACTLY, I think he was limiting himself to brand new engines and so came to the conclusion there is nothing exciting out there. But just because its "restomod" doesnt mean it has to have a brand new engine IMO.

  • @japsniper1980
    @japsniper1980 3 года назад +4

    Would love to see some Restomod a Deloren. The car was deeply flawed to begin with, so any improvement to it's engine, steering, gearbox & brakes would be most welcome.

    • @NikFowler
      @NikFowler 3 года назад +3

      With the Venturi version of that awful engine? 400bhp? Yes please!

  • @spazda_mx5
    @spazda_mx5 3 года назад +15

    Someone somewhere will have put a Honda K20 in a 205. Probably a LS as well.

    • @Kocan7
      @Kocan7 3 года назад +5

      Some already did it: www.205gtidrivers.com/forums/topic/167566-k20-205/

    • @jasondunphy1170
      @jasondunphy1170 3 года назад +1

      There's a K20 Mk2 Fiesta ripping round the UK somewhere it's beast looks totally standard too

    • @spazda_mx5
      @spazda_mx5 3 года назад +1

      @@Kocan7 I thought someone on 205 drivers would have, good to see the forum is still going 😊

    • @Talynen
      @Talynen 3 года назад

      If we're playing the same manufacturer game, you could get a very similar car (restomod 205) using a 4th gen civic (EF) hatch shell and a Type R swap. No one is making them as a business, but that approach is very popular in America for individual project cars. Most of those owners are more interested in the driving dynamics than fit and finish, though, so the interiors tend to be lackluster to save money.

    • @viriatvsoflvsitania5422
      @viriatvsoflvsitania5422 3 года назад

      K20's have been Europe's LS engine equivalent for a while. They have been swapped on every car imaginable. I met a kid in Sweden years ago who put one in a Volvo 740. Now, a LS would be too much of a stretch to put inside a 205 engine bay. But doable...

  • @13coyote13
    @13coyote13 3 года назад +9

    Come on Chris, RESTOMOD, taking an old car and keep it stock appearing while updating it's suspension and drive train.

  • @shubhamagrawal2707
    @shubhamagrawal2707 3 года назад +5

    I think a word by chris harris may effectively manipulate the enthusiast's car market!

  • @SpawnAE86
    @SpawnAE86 3 года назад +5

    2jz prices went up for another £100 with this video :)

  • @gregoryfranks7347
    @gregoryfranks7347 3 года назад +1

    Mr. Harris I keep telling everybody that someone needs to start a company doing either tribute or restomod pre merger AMG cars I know you have substantial clap and I think you're a fan as well if you can get somebody to start that business I would love to see it but as always you are a fantastic driver automobile presenter and just all-around funny ass guy so cheers

  • @juststuff5216
    @juststuff5216 3 года назад +1

    Still don't understand why the mainstream auto journalists haven't picked up on Restomods from the likes of the *Ringbrothers* ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=ringbrothers and *Roadster Shop,* because when you see the likes of Roadster Shop *Innovator* ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=roadster+shop+innovator or Ringbrothers *Valkyrja* ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=ringbrothers+valkyrja they make likes of the Singer 911 (not DLS) seem pretty pedestrian!

  • @gav1njackson
    @gav1njackson 3 года назад +3

    This is what Top Gear should be like, distilled Car opinion and spec from people like Chris and Jack... I couldn't stop watching their vids in this style.

  • @alexismalcolm2444
    @alexismalcolm2444 3 года назад +1

    Hey Chris there is an actual 205 gti with a k24 in it here in Jamaica 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲 nice car

  • @c7uk
    @c7uk 3 года назад +1

    “Restomod is when you take a newer car and dress it in a way which makes it look older”?
    I’m pretty sure it’s when you take an older car and restore/modify it with modern parts and tech...

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 3 года назад

      Gets a bit Ship of Theseus/Trigger's broom at some point.

  • @MravacKid
    @MravacKid 3 года назад +1

    Put a Ferrari engine into a Lamborghini body and watch as both camps come around and burn everything down :)

  • @marijnkramer6897
    @marijnkramer6897 3 года назад +1

    Chris why not the 205 body with the driveline of an peugeot 208 GTI 270 ?? more then enough for a 1000kg car i guese. Good gearbox with a diff. Put it in stock form to a tuner and it will bring it up from 270pk/330Nm -> 300pk/380Nm. And the 1.6 unit is probebly much lighter then the 2.0 unit from honda.

  • @th3b0untyhunter
    @th3b0untyhunter 3 года назад +1

    Your definition of restomod is wrong Chris.
    Its an old car with modern suspension, brakes, uprated engine and other modern tech.
    Eagle E type, Alfaholics and JIA Interceptor are original shells with modern bits fitted.
    Only the Singer kinda meets your description but even then though they do make it look older its still basically an old 911 with modern bits fitted.
    NONE of them are modern cars made to look old.
    The clue is in the name.
    Restomod = resto+mod aka restore and modify/modernise
    Oh and there's already a category for stuff like the GTO Engineering SWB and its called toolroom recreation or toolroom copy
    Don't forget though that even GTO Engineering need a lesser ferrari base car - usually 250 or 330 gt 2+2 or the like to pull to pieces for the chassis plate (and the purists really don't like this) or it'd have to be classed as a brand new build and be subject to modern regs.

  • @magnustan841
    @magnustan841 3 года назад +1

    Sad to hear some car lovers falling out of love for new performance cars and dreaming about owning older stuff. I’m 19 years old, so I’m into the modern cars. Is that something I can keep on loving and dreaming of, or should I throw it all away and lust after these “pure driver’s cars” instead of “fancy horsepower-chasing (0-62mph) toys”? That’s what lots of people say about modern cars.

  • @kens8903
    @kens8903 3 года назад +5

    This needs to be longer and should be a segment with the actual cars. Also I wanted to hear about the Pur Sang cars..

    • @salvi1398
      @salvi1398 3 года назад

      Definelty, those type 35s are stunning

  • @Biohazard667Productions
    @Biohazard667Productions 3 года назад +1

    whaaat chris is my kinda guy! I actually have a Peugeot 205 gti with an Honda K20 engine in it =) its doooopeeeeee

  • @barryf1966
    @barryf1966 3 года назад +1

    Crosthwaite and Gardiner built some new Auto Union grand prix cars for Audi from original plans to thrash and keep the old ones in a museum

  • @NikesZ28
    @NikesZ28 3 года назад +1

    Well if you put the engine from the new 308 GTI with 270Hp in an old 205 i bet you could scare yourself very much :)

  • @NealyLL
    @NealyLL 3 года назад +5

    Check out his chat with Joe Rogan, from about 3 or 4 years ago. It’s Brilliant.

    • @brunobegic3841
      @brunobegic3841 3 года назад

      I've watched that about 5 times by now, and now you reminded me to go and watch it again.
      Thanks mate

    • @MrFredHoogendoorn
      @MrFredHoogendoorn 3 года назад +1

      Aside from his own podcast which is a gem. I'd also recommend his talk on the Late brake show here on RUclips. It's with johhny Smith, who used to do fifth gear.

  • @Gourmet_Goon80
    @Gourmet_Goon80 3 года назад +2

    I love conversations like these. Unscripted, from a place of passion, just two blokes talking about cars. The 205 GTI with a Honda engine? Brilliant.

  • @arjun._.bbC6
    @arjun._.bbC6 2 года назад +1

    That is a horribly incorrect definition of a restomod. Surprised that he mixed it up. Dressing a newer car to look older is NOT what a Restomod is.

  • @Jabber-ig3iw
    @Jabber-ig3iw 3 года назад +5

    Be interesting to see what he thinks about the Aussie guy currently putting an F430 engine in one of those Alfa’s.

    • @MrSilnev
      @MrSilnev 3 года назад

      I think that would fly over a bit better since Ferrari has been owned by Fiat since the 60s. Whereas Lambo and Ferrari have always been separate entities and rivals. Putting a ferrari engine into a lambo would be the ultimate affront.

  • @mickwrinkles2318
    @mickwrinkles2318 3 года назад +1

    Well you see Chris you are wrong. The EW10J4s from Peugeot is very similar to a K20, only it has more torque everywhere, easily revs to 8500 and it won the S2000 rally class 3 times in a row.
    So yeah put your K20 with less torque in it and you will loose against the EW10J4s. The gearbox is horrible, but the engine has more guts than the Honda.

    • @unclebanga5976
      @unclebanga5976 Год назад +1

      Yep and then if ya rich enough, just add a sedev box to keep it all french 😊

  • @martmanana7269
    @martmanana7269 3 года назад +3

    Excellent choices Chris, absolutely fantastic. You're such a purist and I LOVE IT

  • @americansmark
    @americansmark 3 года назад +3

    Someone built a replica 250 GTO and hasn't had it seized by Ferrari yet?

  • @keithalexander6881
    @keithalexander6881 3 года назад +6

    So were do 'outlaw' classed cars sit within all of this? Like the Lancia Aurelia B20GT

  • @miamimo70
    @miamimo70 3 года назад +3

    Drive a Toyota MR2 Mk1..the best £3500 I ever spent

  • @chriscarbaugh3936
    @chriscarbaugh3936 3 года назад +1

    Not sure I agree w the restomod definition. A newer car, make to look like an older car is surely a “backdate”. Whereas a proper restomod is an old car with a more modern engine, suspension, brakes etc. One could actually merely call this a hot rod; been souping up cars myself for a few decades 👍

    • @BuiltToRace_com
      @BuiltToRace_com 3 года назад

      Yep totally, strange how he did that - thinking he knows but just said restomod

  • @michaelallen2501
    @michaelallen2501 3 года назад +2

    I'd pay money to sit around and talk cars with Chris over a few beers for an hour or two. He possesses all the qualities I look for in a car guy/gal. Passion for the drive, intelligent about the technology behind them, and quite handy behind the wheel.

  • @eat_the_pudding
    @eat_the_pudding 3 года назад +2

    Really would love restomods to be cheaper. It's stupid money 😥

  • @kindface
    @kindface 3 года назад +6

    Every time I watch Rix with Harris, I just squirm at how out-of-place Rix is. It's painful to watch.

    • @robertmaddock1813
      @robertmaddock1813 3 года назад +3

      Like in any profession, those with less experience / knowledge, would be better served to know when to pipe down rather than to try and talk over - it's not a competition!

    • @th3b0untyhunter
      @th3b0untyhunter 3 года назад

      @@robertmaddock1813 shame Harris didn't take that advice on this occasion.
      Lots of errors and misinformation in this video.

    • @robertmaddock1813
      @robertmaddock1813 3 года назад

      @@th3b0untyhunter i dare say your right, maybe you could share the errors and misinformation you refer to?

    • @th3b0untyhunter
      @th3b0untyhunter 3 года назад

      @@robertmaddock1813
      His description of restomods is totally wrong. They are not modern cars made to look old.
      They are old cars restored with modernised modified running gear (hence the name)
      With the exception of the Singer they all use period chassis and arent trying to look older at all and even the Singer still uses an old chassis and only tries to look 15 yrs odd older than it is.
      Alfaholics is a restomod not the same class as the GTO Eng 250 SWB, it uses the chassis and floorpan from a 105 series Guilia not a totally custom built frame like the SWB.
      Speaking of that SWB, the class of car that the GTO Engineering SWB is already has a name - Toolroom Recreation or Toolroom Copy.
      He also glosses over the fact that each of their copies kills a "lesser" Ferrari model to gain its chassis plate and sometimes engine (usually a 250 or 330 gt 2+2) for an identity.
      Then that crap about most matching numbers cars arent matching. He clearly doesn't follow the classic makes much.
      If a Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, Jaguar etc has an engine stamping that doesn't look right (and people study them hard) then that info and relevant pics will always get into the public domain and that car will always have a stigma and story attached - and some of these weird forum people keep their own records on cars they will never own or in some cases never even see in person. The facts won't ever go away.
      The "engine must be from same make" thing. So people haven't been using LS, SR20 or 2JZ engines in multiple makes of restomod for years then.
      People already do 205's and achieve 200bhp odd from modified mi16 and gti6 engines using modern jenvey itb's and a good ecu - no need for Honda engines

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 года назад

      @@th3b0untyhunter the restomod thing is a subjective argument over semantics. Many restomods use a complete rolling chassis from a modern donor car and just weld an old body on top. Faking of matching numbers is a real problem in the classic car world, Harris is in touch with all the big auctioneers and knows about this stuff. Yeah, the 250 SWB uses a donor, but usually it'll be a knackered, rusty barn find that they can pull a VIN off, little more.

  • @o2i3u5klwerh8
    @o2i3u5klwerh8 3 года назад +2

    Peugeot is now making a v12 multi-turbo with one million hp to show Pepe Guardiola!

  • @michelevianello1683
    @michelevianello1683 3 года назад +1

    The world of journalism, in every discipline, is in dire need of honest, based and straightforward people like Mr. Harris.
    Please continue this format. People want critique, education, argumentation. Let those youtube marketing-paid, stupid hype dealers eat Chris' dirt.

  • @jeffreyb.1657
    @jeffreyb.1657 3 года назад +1

    Great video.
    Bought a 2019 Subaru STI.....a real-time restomod. :) 1990's in a bottle with current safety and a warranty. And hydraulic steering. Wonderful car. Underappreciated.

  • @Hashbrowniepie
    @Hashbrowniepie 3 года назад +1

    How about a De Tomaso Pantera with the Ford Voodoo V8 and a 6 spd manual.

  • @pavao.mp4
    @pavao.mp4 3 года назад

    My absolute DREAM of a restomod is getting into my 99 Renault Twingo a VW 1.0 TSI engine in the front and a BMW i3 powertrain in the back. 300hp 4WD hybrid hatch weighing in at around 1000kg? YES PLEASE

  • @JunixZzHD
    @JunixZzHD 3 года назад +1

    Jack, stop interrupting people. Please.

  • @ZGI
    @ZGI 3 года назад

    Azlong is Chris Harris in it, i Don't even watch it, just click Like Subscribe.

  • @Stoncker
    @Stoncker 3 года назад +1

    Why dont they take a Pug1off for a spin ?

  • @dannyhudson5115
    @dannyhudson5115 3 года назад +1

    Chris: 205 with vtec
    Me: can this be done? I WILL do it regardless

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish
    @Houthiandtheblowfish 3 года назад +6

    Let’s have a thought little hatchback that weighs nothing with a high rev motor cycle engine

    • @hagglundguy
      @hagglundguy 3 года назад

      Polo mk1 with Hayabusa 1300 or GSX-R 750 engine

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 3 года назад

      A Mini with a Celica GT4's 2.0 turbo and 4wd drivetrain and suspension?

    • @hagglundguy
      @hagglundguy 3 года назад

      @@EmyrDerfel too heavy drivetrain for such a light car. A mini can weight in at aroung 1050 pounds or 460kg so a motorcycle engine is really good. Plus they have an insane power to displacement ratio.

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 3 года назад +1

      @@hagglundguy Look up Project Binky, they've almost finished it.