The Alan Parker's movie is required to fully understand what is only suggested in the album. How Pink, the main character, was broken from the start with his father's death in 1943. Raised by an overprotecting mother, victim of the English school system adding one by one bricks on the wall to protect himself from the outside world. He succeed becoming a rock star but the system breaks him more with his drug addiction, a failing marriage bringing him to the edge of the madness and making him isolated behind the wall to protect himself. In his head, Pink thinks then becoming a fascist leader and he's facing his own trial leading to the one and only sentence. He must break the wall and face the real world. But with the bricks coming from the destroyed wall, others are beginning to build their own wall in turn.
Right at the very end, if you listen closely, he says "This is where" then at the very beginning he says "We came in" it loops so beautifully. Great reaction to an iconic album ❣
@@johnfoster5295 I say, in a round about way, the same. Always up to the listener to figure out what is said "without" the liners. But yes, agreed. It's easy to see why this album is soo iconic. Which make me happy as a clam to sill have the original vinyl from when it came out
Yes, you noticed correctly, The character "Pink" went full fascist on Side 4 (In The Flesh, Run Like Hell & Waiting For The Worms) which is extra twisted when you consider that the Nazis killed his father at Anzio in 1943 (Goodbye Blue Skies). Suggestion: Meddle (1971) would be a great next listen.
I love side 1 more than side 2. Everyone raves about echoes, but rarely mentions the other side except for one of these days. Its a more interestibg and diverse side. The guitar even gets a bit LedZep on one song. 'A pillow of winds' is my favourite, and 'seamus', is a great song too.
@@seankilburn7200 one of these days! My fav. Off the album. There’s only one verse in the song and it’s tricky to make out but says… one of these days I’m going to cut you into little pieces. Lol
“Black Shirts” was the term given to the thugs in Italy under the fascist dictator Mussolini who would break the windows of shop…kick down doors etc of marginalized groups of people…especially Jews. “Weed out the weaklings”, “deadwood”…….those they felt did not contribute to society (mentally or physically disabled) homosexuals (the term in use by society then). Anyone different who does not conform to the ideal is viciously suppressed in a fascist system. This is a theme that is all through Water’s music.
We'll conceived and developed characters like in the Wall, hold a mirror up to us and force us to look at everything -the good the bad and the ugly. But we MUST be intelligent enough not to judge the writer for using sometimes off-putting language to describe the character and make them speak. To hold back or water down language for fear of offending does a disservice to the story, and insults the intelligence of the viewer/listener/reader. It diminishes the character, the story, and the honesty of the impression it seeks to make on the audience. We should walk away from the Wall shaken, unnerved, inspired and maybe a little wiser from the experience
The Wall is by far my favorite PF album. IMO it's deeper and more complex than any of their others and takes many listens to really appreciate. I've been listening to it since it came out and it never gets old. Thanks for doing these PF album reactions, they let us all relive our first PF experiences!
The key to this whole album, which requires close attention to the lyrics from the first song, is the awareness that it is about what becomes of a person - Pink - exposed to certain unfortunate collection of factors in his life and what that does to him in the order of shunning contact with other people while yearning for their acceptance. This song describes how someone who isolates himself (this is the wall, and inner psychological isolation mechanism) from other people become spite- and hateful, drawn to similar hateful social and political messages. Piunk is not a very nice person, and several of the songs are to illustrate this.
The underpinnings of fascism are alienation and resentment. Waters is a keen student of this history. This album serves as a testament and a warning. It is absolutely part of the wider theme of this record - considering that the war against fascism took Roger's father's life... and yet, here we are in the 2022 US playing games with the same lit fuse.
The Pink Floyd Meddle album is not as connected as this one. Doing the entire album at once not necessarily a must. But I would urge you to check out the studio version of "Echoes" from it. Considered by many a masterpiece. Also, do check out the live Pulse version of "Comfortably Numb". You WILL be blown away.
Great reaction and you are right to feel uncomfortable about those words and they do intend to condemn such views as those of worms. This last side is pink a drugged up madman who isolated himself emotionally frok love support behind his wall built of hatred, fear and rejection and those fears, his worms, eat into his brain. One tiny spark of sane human pink screams Stop! And then we get the fantasy trial of this human spark of Pink by the worms and bricks and sentence to tear down the wall. The simple tune playing with choir is necessary relief but you may notice the start of the phrase "Isn't this where came in," that is suddenly cut off. The end of the sentence is right at the start of Side one suggesting this whole album represents one episode in a cycle
Good reaction. I’ve listened to this album and watched the movie literally thousands of times. One time I watched the movie 3 times back to back (lsd was involved). I’ve seen Roger waters perform it live. Both this album and DSOTM are describing the cycle of life. The cycle is expressed by the albums ending with the same sound they started with…with allows them to be looped seamlessly. Where DSOTM discussed a general lifetime that most people can relate to, The Wall is telling of a specific character “pink” who, through the trials of his life, isolates himself and goes crazy. His trials in life start with losing his father in a war and ultimately results in him starting another war…which creates countless more kids like he was. I’m certain the confusion you had at points, especially in this last part, was a symptom of not listening in one sitting. Doing it in parts the you did is worlds better than doing isolated songs at different times…but the album really needs to be treated as a singular song…or a movie/play. In comfortably numb he finishes has finished his wall, achieved isolation, and snapped…afterwards he emerges (as a surrogate of pink/himself) and starts a war. The last few songs … the trial… is when he has been defeated and is facing judgment and persecution. The verses are his teacher, wife, and mother (the bricks in his wall throughout the album). Finally the judge ordering him to tear down the wall. We are left with bystanders sifting through the debris of his war as the cycle starts over. I really enjoyed your reaction. You should def give it another listen in one sitting…then watch the movie…in that order. Not sure you can do a reaction to the movie cuz copyright.., but you could let us know what you think
The lead singer, Pink's split personality (the face he puts up on the wall) is a hardened and angry despot filled with hate as a result of the pain and suffering he has endured. He's hidden his heart and gentle nature behind the wall he's built around himself and lashes out at the world to distract from and disguise his own vulnerability and pain
Yes, uncomfortable lyrics, but words that very powerfully portray the negativity of hate against others...it's a good message. In order to recognise evil it needs to be faced and 'outed'. :0)
This last section has a lot of heavy fascist imagery, alluding to how the Nazis took power. Pink is losing control, and his fascist persona is taking over. He's echoing those statements of hate, "the worms", that are eating into his brain... and he's completely lost faith in everything as his fans seem to go along with this new direction rather than condemning it. Eventually he can't take it anymore. It's not who he wants to be, he's even more isolated, and he needs human contact. He then plays his life over inside his head, and puts himself on trial for all he's done.
@@JoeandAngie since I'm not American, and have no stakes in your current civil war, I'll point out that this album is very heavily anti-MAGA and the hateful sentiments they hold. They are the worms.
I've listened to The Wall for over 40 years and its such an epic classic. Go back and listen to it again and again to digest it and listen to it some more. Watch the move as well.
The Final Cut is the album that followed The Wall. Doesn’t get a lot of love for different reasons but worth checking out if for no other reason than the song “when the tigers broke free” that describes the death of Roger Waters dad. IMHO it is a really good album and the last one w/Waters.
I have loved The Final Cut from when I was a teen. Great music and sonic landscape. To me, Pink Floyd became more mature and personal as they went along, at least while Roger Waters was there
"When the Tigers Broke Free" wasn't on the original release of The Final Cut, which I've had for all these many years. It must have been included on reissues. I also think it's a great album and for me the highlight is "The Gunner's Dream".
@@davidheiser2225 I saw Waters do "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" with Eric Clapton on guitar. Clapton absolutely KILLED it on "The Gunner's Dream" (The first set was Pros and Cons, the second set was all Floyd stuff)
Meddle, the album right before Dark Side Of The Moon, would be perfect to check out, especially side 2 - "Echoes"... Watching you go through Zeppelin, and Floyd was great, reminding me of my first listens. Nicely done! Oh by the way, their Ummagumma album has a "song" called Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In ACave And Grooving WithA Pict", which will either melt your brain, have you laughing, or have you hiding behind the chair!
All in Roger Waters is basically explaining all the bad things in society throughout his life that made him build up his wall, basically all his anxieties holding him back in life, causing him to shut folk out & making it difficult to form relationships. And then how once that wall reaches breaking point & it all comes crashing down, you realise there is folk out there who care.
@@BadassVideos I'm from the UK, don't care who you support... But I can guarantee you Waters wasn't talking about you lot... You'd be another brick in his wall.
The 4 albums you did so far DSotM, WYWH, Animals en The Wall really benefit by listening to it in one go. The rest of the albums you can listen to more piecemeal without taking anything away. Although these 4 albums are on a level all of their own, that doesn't mean there isn't a lot more good music from Floyd. From Echoes, One of these Days to High Hopes and Sorrow, lot's more to come. And of course the early Floyd. For some of these songs the live version is preferable. but on a case by case basis.
Silas man…love being on this journey with you. Barely mentioned here is Pink Floyd’s Obscured by Clouds - 1972 album that was a soundtrack to a French film called La Valee. I love it. Best consumed in one listen but more for the vibe than the story. For me, it’s their bridge between their more psychedelic material from the late 60s to the epic albums you’ve reacted to that followed OBC. Longest song is less than 6 minutes and there are several instrumentals. It probably has the most accessible songs for casual listeners of any of their 60s or 70s albums. Maybe that’s why it gets so slept on. Would love to see you and Alivia react to “Wots…uh the deal” from it someday.
It’s a warning. You could easily relate this entire album to the state America is in right now. One can learn to hate if one is not careful. What bricks are in your wall?
Pink Floyd had to make some compromises to fit it on the vinyl format back in the day (meaning omit some songs/verses). In the early 2000's they released an audio recording of a live show from the original The Wall tour where they played the album in it's entirety (without compromises). I have it on cd, but for some reason it is not on spotify. However it is my go to version to listen to The Wall. You can find it on youtube, it's called 'Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live 1980-81'. However which way you get it, do yourself a favor and find it, put it on, close your eyes and listen to it the whole way through (off cam).
Hey Silas, great job over 4 remarkable albums of Pink Floyd: so dedicated, so full patience, so honest, but so authenic. Great compliment and thanks again. You inspired me to deal with missed and or hard-to-acsess works of Pink Floyd (Mother, Obsoured + Pulsed). Listen to your inner voice and decide what you enjoy at most: PF break, go PF forward or ¨go to the PF roots. I insure you I will enjoy your old LZ reactions, an other great band of the 70ies with a similar "alphatier" or self-discovery problems at the end (as we have in our partnership), also the brilliant 5-member Genesis or Yes. All the best, have great fun with good music!!!
Try to keep in mind when listening to older music that artists are often telling stories that you can learn from. Not everything sung is reflects their virtues. The hateful rhetoric you hear in some of these songs is coming from a character that sunk into a dark place and went mad (crazy). Both “In The Flesh” and “Waiting For The Worms” is Pink gone so dark that he is acting like a Nazi. These songs and others reference the horrible things that happened in Nazi Germany during WWII. Then at “The Trial” Pink sentences himself to be “exposed before (his) peers” by tearing down the protective wall he build around himself. So in the end we can possibly assume he heals and is no longer the mean SOB he became.
Did you notice that this last song loops back to the very beginning of the album? Definitely do their album Meddle, it came out before DSOTM and actually inspired much of it 🔥
You may in the future like to check out another double album from 1975 Jeff Waynes The War of the World featuring many artists including the Welch actor Richard Burton as the narrator plus musical icons like Thin Lizzies Phil Lynott enjoy ❤🇬🇧😊😊
Thanks Silas. Good job! You probably need to listen to the album again reading the viewers comments as you go to get a better, deeper meaning to the context within. May I also suggest again that you should take a break from PF and diversify to other groups and artists. Then come back to PF and LZ in the future. Just to get a bigger feeling of what's out there and there's a LOT of 60s 70s and 80s material out there. Try The Who - Who's Next, Jethro Tull - Aqualung, Steve Miller Band - Fly Like An Eagle, The Doors - The Doors, or Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited. All completely different - All exceptionally great.
The Final Cut would be the perfect follow up to this album, and as someone already suggested, Meddle would be a good album to react to. I also suggest that you react to Atom Heart Mother sometime.
I know I've said it a couple of times, but if you really want to get a good idea of what this album is about, you have to check out The Wall movie. After that, another great one is Roger Waters' The Wall live performance in Berlin after the wall came down. It is basically the whole movie done live on stage with some great guest appearances. Watch and enjoy.
Well, we explained profusely in the prior post what was meant by all the nastiness. I suspect you probably finished off the side before you were able to read the comments. Hopefully you read them by now and it cleared things up for you. Not a parody. More metaphorical and delusion. Pretty heady stuff. But I guarantee you the more you listen to this and mature, the more you'll understand and appreciate it. Btw, all the voices during the trial was Roger Waters. Well done!!
Could you imagine if all you had to judge Pink Floyd by was "Waiting for the Worms" and a few select lines? Taken out of context, Wokeness would shut down PF today. You need to listen to the whole song, and album and not be afraid to hear some disturbing "words" you may not like.
The wall represents 'Pink's' mental breakdown and disengagement from the people around him. The trial is where he puts himself 'on trial' in his mind and thinks back over the contributory factors in his life, the bullying teacher, unfaithful wife, over protective mother - all in all they were all just bricks in the wall.😊😊👍👍
Art is nothing more than one person using poetic license to make their internal workings recognizable, relatable, or beautiful to others. That is what The Wall is...the epitome of art. Roger Waters took real experiences, emotions, and insanity and put it into metaphor and rhyme. In doing so, he tells a story about an every-man or an archetype that people could/can relate to....and tells a story that is as timeless as parents and children. It IS believable that a person with an absent father and a smothering mother would feel that way. It IS believable that a rock star whose wife is cheating on him and who is feeling less and less connection to the audience would feel this way. This is as much a psychological case study as it is an archetypical story being told. There is truth...there is wisdom...there is beauty...there is pain. True art. I CHALLENGE YOU to think of The Wall the next time you read a poem, look at a painting, or hear another album. What REAL emotions are behind that art? What universal human truths are hiding in their musical scales or splashes of primary colors? I would task you with finding your means of getting your feelings out and into art....to take your fear, your love, your humiliation, your crippling anger, your deepest doubt....and to splash it all on a canvas or pour it all out into a song....and make it beautiful, understandable, and life changing for somebody else. THAT'S The Wall. The. epitome. of. art.
The key is to think of this album as a soundtrack to the movie. And as others have mentioned, just watch the movie and it will all make a lot more sense. Oh, and please please please react to the live Comfortably Numb from the 1994 Pulse concert. You won't regret it.
There's the movie.....BUT....there's also 'live' presentations of the entire show. After he left Pink Floyd, he brought together a bunch of stars in Berlin ( including a bunch of military guys, giant puppets, etc. )...I wanna' say in the early 2000s. However he's toured with HIS band & performed several times since. The latest incarnation was maybe a couple of years ago. You'll get a sense of just how massive this thing was.
outside the wall is the perfect summation to the story. it basically says that no matter how much shit you go through, and how many bricks are in that wall you build around yourself,the ones who really love you have it worse by trying to break the wall down to help you.
The whole album is about a troubled rock star, how he grew up, and then became so famous, he built a "Wall" between himself and his audience. The "Wall" is what we build around ourselves, Silas, to keep others out. The Wall in a nutshell. Next do "The Final Cut". Then listen to Meddle , Atom Heart MOTHER, A Momentary Lapse of Reason.
it loops back to the beginning, mocking lifes circular pattern. Roger is a poet. His dad died in WW2. The worms are a french slang term for the nazis. Roger was showing how easy fascism can take over. It is something that needs to be paid attention to in america at this time.
Silas, I know a lot of people have suggested watching the movie, but here is something else if you're interested. You can watch a taped version of the live concert from 1980. It was such an extravagent show that it only played a few cities. It it, they constuct a giant wall as the show goes on and then blow it up in the end. Some other concepts come out, such the surrogate band. ruclips.net/video/LclCKexMjAs/видео.html
This is a concept album with an amazing film. Watching the film makes it make more sense, yet the film is very ambiguous so you need to decipher it. This is one of the most unique albums ever made. Compare it to Mozart and Bach. This is a rock opera for the ages. I first heard it as a teen in 1989. It made me cry and it stayed with me for months. It was so powerful. I had some older friends who would rent it, every weekend, and drop acid before watching it. It was nuts!! An absolute classic. Perfect!
Hey Silas, sorry I’ve not commented on these videos I’ve been on holiday. So glad you chose to listen to The Wall. It’s an immense album. Roger Waters is a brilliant lyricist and at this time he was pretty much in charge of Pink Floyd - the problem was that the rest of the band didn’t really put him in charge so their relationship started to fall apart. If you get a chance to watch the live concert Roger did a few years ago you get the full affect of “the Wall” that’s built between Roger and the audience
Listen to "Meddle", the album where Roger Waters in his own words said he began to write about other people...live at Pompeii from 1972 gives you a real depth of the band visually and sonically, just how tight they were as a four piece. Also the soundtrack album " Obscured by Clouds from 1972, had some brilliant tracks on it.😎👍
You did very well with this and you get a thumbs up for making it through what many would see as challenging material. and as others have said what we are presented with is not necessary the creators own world view but an examination of other world views and their consequences. Part of the clue is that it is sung in a mad maniacal way and the music is stilted and parodied, If you have ever seen punch/ political cartoons you can imagine all the characters looking like that. I Covered conflict in 20 century as my GCSE history when i was 14 ish and we watched some films about "the final Solution" and there were not many at the time. However most of the things referenced here were taught as part of the UK history in schools.
🤔 This is all so very interesting. Most of this material I had never heard before. My heart goes out to all the people that suffered during WWII. I can’t even imagine those times.
Great reaction. Seriously, you don't need to worry about not understanding the entire meaning of the album at first, or enjoying every song. It's a deep dive and not designed as just a set of catchy easily digestible songs, but an entire theme (as you already know). This is why it's best listened to in the context of it telling a story, which upon re-listens makes the more obscure and dark moments all the more affecting. With regards to diving deeper into Pink Floyd, now that you've done the big 4 albums I'd suggest you go back to the Meddle album first. Meddle is essentially the blueprint for their big 4 albums that you've listened to. It's a pretty good album in itself and has the epic 23 minute song 'Echoes', which is essential listening and probably their greatest song. After that you could dive into early Floyd which is very psychedelic late 60's rock, that has a very different sound and not to everyone's taste. Alternatively you could go for the later Floyd albums, which were made without Roger Waters. They're far more commercial sounding but very good, especially The Division Bell which is massively underrated in my opinion. The several other albums inbetween these periods are varied in quality, and only recommended to hardcore Floyd fans (again, in my opinion).
AT LEAST A Saucerful of Secrets, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle of early Pink Floyd and Division Bell of late PF. Maybe Hey Hey Rise Up single from 2022.
Pink Floyd has a few live concerts that feature The Wall -- I think one was in reference to the Berlin Wall falling down in 1980 - awesome ((on youtube)
I have listened to this album so many times. But through your reaction, it’s funny you kept saying you were missing stuff, but through that i got things I never got before. You should honesty go straight into The Final Cut. Rolling Stone magazine (Kurt Loder) called it rock music’s crowning masterpiece when it was first released. They have since revised their review, and history has not been kind to that album. Some people adore it, some people abhor it. Would love to see your reaction and it is next in line!
Silas, you're gonna need to listen to this a few more times before you get it fully, and I'll second the suggestion of other commenters to see the movie. Also, you might be interested in the Virgin Rock channel's take on some of this stuff. The woman who runs that channel is a music teacher, and she really does a good job of explaining the story, and what's going on on the surface, vs the symbolic and metaphorical levels.
None of the remaining Floyd albums demand such a deep dive as the four you've done. The rest of the best of their songs are all on offer in the live Pulse show from 1994. It is peak Pink Floyd, and is available in a new "Restored and Re-edited" version on youtube. The whole thing is a beautiful spectacle. As well they recorded a video called "Live at Pompeii", in 1972, and it is also great. Here you will find the best version of their epic song Echoes. The whole video is great though. Pompeii was a town in Italy that in 79AD was suddenly buried in meters of volcanic ash, killing everyone instantly and preserving the whole town for centuries. Over the years Pompeii has been excavated. Floyd recorded a whole show there, playing to an empty and overgrown amphitheater. Or playing for the ghosts of Pompeii, if that's your thing.
Quite an incredible album with elements of Roger & Syd mixed up but oh so impressive a concept, despite this would be really the last time all 4 members of the band contributed together. And for history buffs this album was released almost 10 years to the day the Berlin wall came down in November 1989....another mad bugger's wall....celebrated in a 'A Great Day for Freedom' from Pink Floyd's 'The Division Bell'.
Please react to Pink Floyds "Division Bell" album next. Well done Silas, you made it thru The Wall. The movie is a must see, and you will understand it so much more.
The easiest way is to go here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall And read the Concept and Storyline. It explains it pretty well. Don't worry, you can continue to be a Pink Floyd fan. They didn't turn into fascists. That part was a hallucination during a show. Good reaction. I'm enjoying watching you discover some of the best rock music ever.
If you want to look into the origins of the band the album Relics is a great place to start. A greatest hits of the band led by Syd Barret. Of course check out the Wall: the movie. Check out Meddle, particularly Echoes and Live at Pompeii. You're in deep-dive territory now!
I went to the Roger Waters The Wall tour about 10 to 12 years ago 5 times. 2 times on the rail. I could feel the wind of the falling bricks. It was just an unreal mind boggling show. you can find some videos on the original tour, but it's poor quality. Waters released a bluray of his tour and it is a great watch.
Check out "The Final Cut", a very underrated album (some Pink Floyd die-hard fans don't like it, especially since Roger Waters made Richard Wright redundant and he was no longer with the band, and there were also tensions between Waters and David Gilmour, leading eventually to their split) but musically, all personal animosities aside, it is a great album, containing, again, interesting, moving, clever lyrics against the war. Check out also "The Division Bell", another great album by Pink Floyd, after Waters had left, and containing another set of great lyrics. You can also check out solo albums by each of the musicians - absolutely stunning music and, again, equally stunning lyrics.
I think The Final Cut is dreadful. If it wasn't Pink Floyd I don't think I would have listened to it twice. Yeah, Roger Waters was the root of all tensions with everyone else (including Bob Ezrin on The Wall). Waters solo albums are awful. IMO, A Momentary Lapse Of Reason is far better than The Division Bell. I suggest Silas' next reaction is to the excellent Meddle album.
The Final Cut is an excellent album, which was released when I was a teen. I didn't understand it when it first came out, and then... I became an adult and went to war.
No, no, no , The Final Cut was by the first listening and is a musical disappointement. Roger gone his way (see the solo albums) and built HIS WALL, ends with his "inflated" The Wall Tours. But I had and have great respect to release such a profund contraversary album - in keeping with today's current events. All say - see the reactions on the internet - it's his father story in the second world war. I was and am sure it was the political situation in GB around 1980 which the inteligent Rick inspired to create such an extraordinary album (unfortunately history repeats itself); for the young generation: Thatcher and Falkland WAR. UK's Traitor, harsh media scolding, specially in GB. Yes there were some interviews, since then I use the salutation Mr Gilmour who built HIS OWN WALL. Both lead Rick outside or he was on his self-discovery strip. Who knows? who cares? the music count. A detail to smile at: summer 1994 I was so in love; to strengthen and gather me I jogged with the walkman and Division Bell a summer long in a endless loop at the fantastic coast near Bordeaux. The album has good single songs, good guitar parts and a liitle bit of the old atmosherical vibes Only now I have got to know the heavy tanker PULSE. Somehow I have the impression both have landed at the same place without meeting each other. Pink Floyd are THE FOUR, pardon Syd THE FIVE.
@@79BlackRose Well, I guess it's up to each person's musical tastes. To me, when talking about post-Waters albums, The Division Bell is incomparably better than A Momentary Lapse of Reason. The latter has maybe one great song, and maybe two-three which are bearable, the rest is, to say the least, uninteresting. When it comes to solo albums by Waters, they are not equal (in my personal book Radio KAOS being the worst, and Amused to Death being the best), but they are great, both musically and lyrically. The lyrics are stinging, accusatory, sarcastic, and very well reflecting the state of the human race. True, recently Mr. Waters has shamed himself by blaming the war in Ukraine on the support of arms by the West and by accusing Biden (makes me think Mr. Waters is slowly becoming a right-wing extremist) rather than Putin, but that is something entirely different from his music. Actually, much as I don't like how Waters treated Wright, Gilmour, Ezrin and more, I believe that his solo albums are better than those of Gilmour (which doesn't mean Gilmour's are bad, they are simply not as etching into memory and emotions as those by Waters). And let's not forget the solo albums by Wright which on the one hand seem to be neglected, and on the other hand are (again, my personal opinion) best of them all.
Early Pink Floyd: The piper at the gates of dawn (1967), A saucerful of secrets (1968), Ummagumma (1969, double album), Atom heart mother (1970), Meddle (1971), Relics (1971, early singles), Music from the film More (1969), Obscured by clouds (1972, film music). Late Pink Floyd: The final cut (1983), A momentary lapse of reason (1987), The Division bell (1994). Every album is different, so I recommend all. It's music journey, you cannot be prepared for. After Pink Floyd you should try: Frank Zappa, King Crimson, The Residents, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles, Janis Joplin, Nirvana, Bjork, Portishead, Primus, Amy Winehouse, Dire Straits.
yes, a lot of the more horrible lyrics are satire. As Roger said, "if they weren't satire, it would be horrible." the character Pink descends into delusion and a form of madness, so all of the most disturbing things he; been exposed to eat in to him"the worms ate into his brain" so in his fever dream mind he becomes a fascist demigod to the adoring crowd, the sea of faces. But finally his humanity breaks though and STOP! He judges himself though all of the people who in his fragile state made him crazy. Funally he tears down his own wall
The video of their album, Echoes, Live at Pompeii, is pretty damned powerful, playing straight to the ages. It's a single vid, but you might watch it, on or off channel.
You definitely should listen to Meddle and I also recommend Atom heart mother. AHM is where they start to find their sound and craft for future albums. Probably other people have already mentioned for you to watch the movie of the wall. It gives a lot greater context to the album and compliments the music greatly. Enjoyed watching your reactions to pink floyd. It's great to see another generation embrace their music.
Now watch the movie! The songs on the album tell the story, but when you turn it into a movie that follows the album, the things that didn't make sense will!
It is a parody. This is what happens when people succumb to fear and isolation. It leads to hatred, like the followers of Nazi Germany and the oppression of others. If you remember in the song Hey You, the worms ate into his brain. The character, Pink, became consumed by hatred, where he eventually, said STOP! That was enough. He realized hatred, fear, and isolation was not the right path to take and he put himself on trial where he purges all these feelings, and he knew loving others and living away from isolation was the true path to take in his life. Note the other symbols, like the hammer among other things, is a symbol of oppression. I hope that helps you understand those lyrics. They are harsh, but it's actually a critic of real-life oppression.
Silas.... "In the Flesh" and "Follow the Worms" are SUPPOSED to disturb you!!! This is where society PUSHES people.... The Nazi symbolism is rife through those two songs, this is what happens when we conform to the idea of "Us versus Them" .... "Follow the worms and conform!" Stop! screams Pink... And then "The Trial" where he is tried in his mind (by his own mind as well) for all the ways he failed.... Pink is destroyed mentally when his walls come down, it's over for him, but there is hope, because "Outside the Wall" there are those who keep reaching out to people...
I'm usually long-winded but in this case I'll just reiterate what so many are saying, just watch the movie and you'll understand the music much better! As far as all the things you're worried about that sound racist they're meant to be but they're meant to be racist from the point of view of a group of Nazi fascists, brown shirts and SS Nazis who rounded up Jewish people during World War II. They did this so that all the German people would have a common enemy and Hitler created an enemy that way to unify the German people for a common cause which was basically to take over Zu vorld!! So basically those were evil fascists rounding up the artists and bleeding hearts kind of representing the Nazis versus the Jews. Don't feel bad about listening to it it was a parody and meant to sound the way it did! See I became long-winded anyway..
You missed a very important line in your PT. 6. in the middle of In The Flesh. " I've got some bad news for you sunshine, Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel and they sent us along as a surrogate band" This is the emergence of the main character's (Pink) newly formed alter ego who is basically a fascist. Simply put, a defense mechanism. This new version of himself carries on into Run Like Hell. Now that you will be watching the movie you will actually see him change. Meddle may be the most important album as it shows off their wide range as well as the change in direction they make. Meddle to me has always been the album that allows us to experience the inside of the cocoon as the metamorphosis happens in front of our very ears. Ummagumma is also not to be missed. Now go watch the movie with a friend. Peace/JT
Flubbert is spot on! Meddle is some much earlier Floyd and severely underrated...genius. Check it out and just get "lost in the sauce"! Fearless is my favorite.
The Wall project was a 3 part venture. The album, the tour and the movie. Unfortunately the recordings of the live shows were extremely poor. I think there's maybe 3 songs worthy of watching. I'd highly suggest seeing Roger's solo tour of the Wall from 2010 thru 2013. It's on RUclips and DVD. Keep in mind, the story is all about Floyd "Pink" Pinkerton's life from birth to growing up to be a rock star who's ego and pressures of growing up all come to a head as he battles his demons. The Wall is a reference to him shutting out society's pressures and thus thinking it shelters him from such, only for it to actually make things worse. It's a very, very deep album and frankly a psychoanalyst's wet dream.
@@DannyD714 Yeah, I'm just not too fond of that show though. Thought it was a bit off. I don't recall all the details, but I found out a few years ago that they had numerous issues with the production and a good portion of the recording was done the night before during the dress rehearsal and no audience. That and Roger wasn't happy with a few of the artists renditions of the actual show. If I recall Sinead O'Conner ticked him off the most.
Before you move on to others bands, please listen to Echoes off their Meddle album. It is, to me, their most “psychedelic” or”progressive ” piece…..a TOTAL mind trip. Definitely a “dark room”, listen. ✌️😉
Te saludo desde argentina, buena reacción del álbum the wall, podrías reacción al álbum pulse qué está en vivo o a alguna de las canciones, fue un gran show de pink Floyd
Over 200,000 citizens attended the wall concert at the Berlin wall it was torn down in I believe the year 1989 and Roger Waters performed it with many guest artist including Cyndi Lauper and the German band the scorpions who are absolutely fantastic
The Alan Parker's movie is required to fully understand what is only suggested in the album. How Pink, the main character, was broken from the start with his father's death in 1943. Raised by an overprotecting mother, victim of the English school system adding one by one bricks on the wall to protect himself from the outside world. He succeed becoming a rock star but the system breaks him more with his drug addiction, a failing marriage bringing him to the edge of the madness and making him isolated behind the wall to protect himself. In his head, Pink thinks then becoming a fascist leader and he's facing his own trial leading to the one and only sentence. He must break the wall and face the real world. But with the bricks coming from the destroyed wall, others are beginning to build their own wall in turn.
This. Need to watch the movie for context and help it all make sense.
Right at the very end, if you listen closely, he says "This is where" then at the very beginning he says "We came in" it loops so beautifully. Great reaction to an iconic album ❣
It's actually "isn't this where" but it is a cool Easter egg on the album.
@@johnfoster5295 I say, in a round about way, the same. Always up to the listener to figure out what is said "without" the liners. But yes, agreed. It's easy to see why this album is soo iconic. Which make me happy as a clam to sill have the original vinyl from when it came out
Yes, you noticed correctly, The character "Pink" went full fascist on Side 4 (In The Flesh, Run Like Hell & Waiting For The Worms) which is extra twisted when you consider that the Nazis killed his father at Anzio in 1943 (Goodbye Blue Skies). Suggestion: Meddle (1971) would be a great next listen.
Only 2 songs on that album worth listening to.
I love side 1 more than side 2. Everyone raves about echoes, but rarely mentions the other side except for one of these days. Its a more interestibg and diverse side. The guitar even gets a bit LedZep on one song. 'A pillow of winds' is my favourite, and 'seamus', is a great song too.
@@scottlaughlin9897 What’s the second one? I’ve only listened to echoes
@@seankilburn7200 one of these days! My fav. Off the album. There’s only one verse in the song and it’s tricky to make out but says… one of these days I’m going to cut you into little pieces. Lol
@@seankilburn7200 seamus
‘What are we talking about here?’ That did make me laugh!! 😂😂😂
“Black Shirts” was the term given to the thugs in Italy under the fascist dictator Mussolini who would break the windows of shop…kick down doors etc of marginalized groups of people…especially Jews. “Weed out the weaklings”, “deadwood”…….those they felt did not contribute to society (mentally or physically disabled) homosexuals (the term in use by society then). Anyone different who does not conform to the ideal is viciously suppressed in a fascist system.
This is a theme that is all through Water’s music.
We'll conceived and developed characters like in the Wall, hold a mirror up to us and force us to look at everything -the good the bad and the ugly. But we MUST be intelligent enough not to judge the writer for using sometimes off-putting language to describe the character and make them speak. To hold back or water down language for fear of offending does a disservice to the story, and insults the intelligence of the viewer/listener/reader. It diminishes the character, the story, and the honesty of the impression it seeks to make on the audience. We should walk away from the Wall shaken, unnerved, inspired and maybe a little wiser from the experience
The Wall is by far my favorite PF album. IMO it's deeper and more complex than any of their others and takes many listens to really appreciate. I've been listening to it since it came out and it never gets old. Thanks for doing these PF album reactions, they let us all relive our first PF experiences!
This can't be digested and understood in one listen, it takes a long time and the journey and destination are well worth the time.
The key to this whole album, which requires close attention to the lyrics from the first song, is the awareness that it is about what becomes of a person - Pink - exposed to certain unfortunate collection of factors in his life and what that does to him in the order of shunning contact with other people while yearning for their acceptance. This song describes how someone who isolates himself (this is the wall, and inner psychological isolation mechanism) from other people become spite- and hateful, drawn to similar hateful social and political messages. Piunk is not a very nice person, and several of the songs are to illustrate this.
The underpinnings of fascism are alienation and resentment. Waters is a keen student of this history. This album serves as a testament and a warning. It is absolutely part of the wider theme of this record - considering that the war against fascism took Roger's father's life... and yet, here we are in the 2022 US playing games with the same lit fuse.
@@anahatatutu Such an important point! What we are seeing today is not very different from what Germany saw in the late 1920s and 1930s.
The Pink Floyd Meddle album is not as connected as this one. Doing the entire album at once not necessarily a must. But I would urge you to check out the studio version of "Echoes" from it. Considered by many a masterpiece.
Also, do check out the live Pulse version of "Comfortably Numb". You WILL be blown away.
Why does everybody exclude One of these days?! Better than Echoes. IMO
@@scottlaughlin9897 and Pillow of Winds
Great reaction and you are right to feel uncomfortable about those words and they do intend to condemn such views as those of worms.
This last side is pink a drugged up madman who isolated himself emotionally frok love support behind his wall built of hatred, fear and rejection and those fears, his worms, eat into his brain.
One tiny spark of sane human pink screams Stop!
And then we get the fantasy trial of this human spark of Pink by the worms and bricks and sentence to tear down the wall.
The simple tune playing with choir is necessary relief but you may notice the start of the phrase "Isn't this where came in," that is suddenly cut off. The end of the sentence is right at the start of Side one suggesting this whole album represents one episode in a cycle
Good reaction. I’ve listened to this album and watched the movie literally thousands of times. One time I watched the movie 3 times back to back (lsd was involved). I’ve seen Roger waters perform it live. Both this album and DSOTM are describing the cycle of life. The cycle is expressed by the albums ending with the same sound they started with…with allows them to be looped seamlessly. Where DSOTM discussed a general lifetime that most people can relate to, The Wall is telling of a specific character “pink” who, through the trials of his life, isolates himself and goes crazy. His trials in life start with losing his father in a war and ultimately results in him starting another war…which creates countless more kids like he was.
I’m certain the confusion you had at points, especially in this last part, was a symptom of not listening in one sitting. Doing it in parts the you did is worlds better than doing isolated songs at different times…but the album really needs to be treated as a singular song…or a movie/play. In comfortably numb he finishes has finished his wall, achieved isolation, and snapped…afterwards he emerges (as a surrogate of pink/himself) and starts a war. The last few songs … the trial… is when he has been defeated and is facing judgment and persecution. The verses are his teacher, wife, and mother (the bricks in his wall throughout the album). Finally the judge ordering him to tear down the wall. We are left with bystanders sifting through the debris of his war as the cycle starts over.
I really enjoyed your reaction. You should def give it another listen in one sitting…then watch the movie…in that order. Not sure you can do a reaction to the movie cuz copyright.., but you could let us know what you think
The lead singer, Pink's split personality (the face he puts up on the wall) is a hardened and angry despot filled with hate as a result of the pain and suffering he has endured. He's hidden his heart and gentle nature behind the wall he's built around himself and lashes out at the world to distract from and disguise his own vulnerability and pain
Yes, uncomfortable lyrics, but words that very powerfully portray the negativity of hate against others...it's a good message. In order to recognise evil it needs to be faced and 'outed'. :0)
This last section has a lot of heavy fascist imagery, alluding to how the Nazis took power. Pink is losing control, and his fascist persona is taking over. He's echoing those statements of hate, "the worms", that are eating into his brain... and he's completely lost faith in everything as his fans seem to go along with this new direction rather than condemning it. Eventually he can't take it anymore. It's not who he wants to be, he's even more isolated, and he needs human contact. He then plays his life over inside his head, and puts himself on trial for all he's done.
Like the current admin
@@JoeandAngie mmm, much much more like the last one. In fact Roger himself compares you know who to what delusional Pink had become.
@@JoeandAngie since I'm not American, and have no stakes in your current civil war, I'll point out that this album is very heavily anti-MAGA and the hateful sentiments they hold. They are the worms.
Yup, if you watch the movie, you'll understand the more colorful parts of the album. All will be explained if you watch the film.
I've listened to The Wall for over 40 years and its such an epic classic.
Go back and listen to it again and again to digest it and listen to it some more.
Watch the move as well.
The Final Cut is the album that followed The Wall. Doesn’t get a lot of love for different reasons but worth checking out if for no other reason than the song “when the tigers broke free” that describes the death of Roger Waters dad. IMHO it is a really good album and the last one w/Waters.
I have loved The Final Cut from when I was a teen. Great music and sonic landscape. To me, Pink Floyd became more mature and personal as they went along, at least while Roger Waters was there
"When the Tigers Broke Free" wasn't on the original release of The Final Cut, which I've had for all these many years. It must have been included on reissues. I also think it's a great album and for me the highlight is "The Gunner's Dream".
@@davidheiser2225 Two Suns in the Sunset for me.
when the tigers broke free was cut from the wall and release on the final cut
@@davidheiser2225 I saw Waters do "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" with Eric Clapton on guitar. Clapton absolutely KILLED it on "The Gunner's Dream" (The first set was Pros and Cons, the second set was all Floyd stuff)
Meddle, the album right before Dark Side Of The Moon, would be perfect to check out, especially side 2 - "Echoes"...
Watching you go through Zeppelin, and Floyd was great, reminding me of my first listens. Nicely done!
Oh by the way, their Ummagumma album has a "song" called Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In ACave And Grooving WithA Pict", which will either melt your brain, have you laughing, or have you hiding behind the chair!
Well Obscured by Clouds was in between Meddle and DSOTM. But it was a soundtrack and doesn’t really count as a main album but it was there
All in Roger Waters is basically explaining all the bad things in society throughout his life that made him build up his wall, basically all his anxieties holding him back in life, causing him to shut folk out & making it difficult to form relationships. And then how once that wall reaches breaking point & it all comes crashing down, you realise there is folk out there who care.
ya. like us trump supporters. we care
@@BadassVideos I'm from the UK, don't care who you support... But I can guarantee you Waters wasn't talking about you lot... You'd be another brick in his wall.
The 4 albums you did so far DSotM, WYWH, Animals en The Wall really benefit by listening to it in one go. The rest of the albums you can listen to more piecemeal without taking anything away. Although these 4 albums are on a level all of their own, that doesn't mean there isn't a lot more good music from Floyd. From Echoes, One of these Days to High Hopes and Sorrow, lot's more to come. And of course the early Floyd. For some of these songs the live version is preferable. but on a case by case basis.
Silas man…love being on this journey with you. Barely mentioned here is Pink Floyd’s Obscured by Clouds - 1972 album that was a soundtrack to a French film called La Valee. I love it. Best consumed in one listen but more for the vibe than the story. For me, it’s their bridge between their more psychedelic material from the late 60s to the epic albums you’ve reacted to that followed OBC. Longest song is less than 6 minutes and there are several instrumentals. It probably has the most accessible songs for casual listeners of any of their 60s or 70s albums. Maybe that’s why it gets so slept on. Would love to see you and Alivia react to “Wots…uh the deal” from it someday.
It’s a warning. You could easily relate this entire album to the state America is in right now. One can learn to hate if one is not careful. What bricks are in your wall?
Pink Floyd had to make some compromises to fit it on the vinyl format back in the day (meaning omit some songs/verses). In the early 2000's they released an audio recording of a live show from the original The Wall tour where they played the album in it's entirety (without compromises). I have it on cd, but for some reason it is not on spotify. However it is my go to version to listen to The Wall. You can find it on youtube, it's called 'Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live 1980-81'. However which way you get it, do yourself a favor and find it, put it on, close your eyes and listen to it the whole way through (off cam).
Run Like Hell on that
Hey Silas, great job over 4 remarkable albums of Pink Floyd: so dedicated, so full patience, so honest, but so authenic. Great compliment and thanks again. You inspired me to deal with missed and or hard-to-acsess works of Pink Floyd (Mother, Obsoured + Pulsed). Listen to your inner voice and decide what you enjoy at most: PF break, go PF forward or ¨go to the PF roots.
I insure you I will enjoy your old LZ reactions, an other great band of the 70ies with a similar "alphatier" or self-discovery problems at the end (as we have in our partnership), also the brilliant 5-member Genesis or Yes. All the best, have great fun with good music!!!
Try to keep in mind when listening to older music that artists are often telling stories that you can learn from. Not everything sung is reflects their virtues. The hateful rhetoric you hear in some of these songs is coming from a character that sunk into a dark place and went mad (crazy). Both “In The Flesh” and “Waiting For The Worms” is Pink gone so dark that he is acting like a Nazi. These songs and others reference the horrible things that happened in Nazi Germany during WWII. Then at “The Trial” Pink sentences himself to be “exposed before (his) peers” by tearing down the protective wall he build around himself. So in the end we can possibly assume he heals and is no longer the mean SOB he became.
Did you notice that this last song loops back to the very beginning of the album?
Definitely do their album Meddle, it came out before DSOTM and actually inspired much of it 🔥
You may in the future like to check out another double album from 1975 Jeff Waynes The War of the World featuring many artists including the Welch actor Richard Burton as the narrator plus musical icons like Thin Lizzies Phil Lynott enjoy ❤🇬🇧😊😊
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Good call.
Thanks Silas. Good job! You probably need to listen to the album again reading the viewers comments as you go to get a better, deeper meaning to the context within.
May I also suggest again that you should take a break from PF and diversify to other groups and artists. Then come back to PF and LZ in the future. Just to get a bigger feeling of what's out there and there's a LOT of 60s 70s and 80s material out there. Try The Who - Who's Next, Jethro Tull - Aqualung, Steve Miller Band - Fly Like An Eagle, The Doors - The Doors, or Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited. All completely different - All exceptionally great.
The Final Cut would be the perfect follow up to this album, and as someone already suggested, Meddle would be a good album to react to. I also suggest that you react to Atom Heart Mother sometime.
I know I've said it a couple of times, but if you really want to get a good idea of what this album is about, you have to check out The Wall movie. After that, another great one is Roger Waters' The Wall live performance in Berlin after the wall came down. It is basically the whole movie done live on stage with some great guest appearances. Watch and enjoy.
You know you kept appreciating how one song transitioned in to the next? Did you notice the last song transitioned back in to the first?
Well, we explained profusely in the prior post what was meant by all the nastiness. I suspect you probably finished off the side before you were able to read the comments. Hopefully you read them by now and it cleared things up for you. Not a parody. More metaphorical and delusion. Pretty heady stuff. But I guarantee you the more you listen to this and mature, the more you'll understand and appreciate it. Btw, all the voices during the trial was Roger Waters.
Well done!!
Could you imagine if all you had to judge Pink Floyd by was "Waiting for the Worms" and a few select lines? Taken out of context, Wokeness would shut down PF today. You need to listen to the whole song, and album and not be afraid to hear some disturbing "words" you may not like.
Bravo amico lontano.
Ottima reaction.
Il prossimo che ti consiglio è MEDDLE !
Really have enjoyed listening to this with you Silas! Awesome 🙂
The wall represents 'Pink's' mental breakdown and disengagement from the people around him. The trial is where he puts himself 'on trial' in his mind and thinks back over the contributory factors in his life, the bullying teacher, unfaithful wife, over protective mother - all in all they were all just bricks in the wall.😊😊👍👍
Absolutely a wonderful reaction! You are So Honest!
Art is nothing more than one person using poetic license to make their internal workings recognizable, relatable, or beautiful to others. That is what The Wall is...the epitome of art. Roger Waters took real experiences, emotions, and insanity and put it into metaphor and rhyme. In doing so, he tells a story about an every-man or an archetype that people could/can relate to....and tells a story that is as timeless as parents and children. It IS believable that a person with an absent father and a smothering mother would feel that way. It IS believable that a rock star whose wife is cheating on him and who is feeling less and less connection to the audience would feel this way. This is as much a psychological case study as it is an archetypical story being told. There is truth...there is wisdom...there is beauty...there is pain. True art. I CHALLENGE YOU to think of The Wall the next time you read a poem, look at a painting, or hear another album. What REAL emotions are behind that art? What universal human truths are hiding in their musical scales or splashes of primary colors? I would task you with finding your means of getting your feelings out and into art....to take your fear, your love, your humiliation, your crippling anger, your deepest doubt....and to splash it all on a canvas or pour it all out into a song....and make it beautiful, understandable, and life changing for somebody else. THAT'S The Wall. The. epitome. of. art.
The key is to think of this album as a soundtrack to the movie. And as others have mentioned, just watch the movie and it will all make a lot more sense. Oh, and please please please react to the live Comfortably Numb from the 1994 Pulse concert. You won't regret it.
The movie ruins your imagination, no need to hurry with that
@@quinto34 not to mention ruins a lot of the music. So many people are so fixated on the movie it's unreal.
Check out the Meddle album, you're gonna love it.
There's the movie.....BUT....there's also 'live' presentations of the entire show. After he left Pink Floyd, he brought together a bunch of stars in Berlin ( including a bunch of military guys, giant puppets, etc. )...I wanna' say in the early 2000s. However he's toured with HIS band & performed several times since. The latest incarnation was maybe a couple of years ago. You'll get a sense of just how massive this thing was.
outside the wall is the perfect summation to the story. it basically says that no matter how much shit you go through, and how many bricks are in that wall you build around yourself,the ones who really love you have it worse by trying to break the wall down to help you.
Watch the movie young brother, it will all make sense
The whole album is about a troubled rock star, how he grew up, and then became so famous, he built a "Wall" between himself and his audience. The "Wall" is what we build around ourselves, Silas, to keep others out. The Wall in a nutshell.
Next do "The Final Cut".
Then listen to Meddle , Atom Heart MOTHER, A Momentary Lapse of Reason.
Oh not The Final Cut, filled with songs that were not good enough for The Wall. 🙄
@@79BlackRose exactly.
The final cut it's a Roger Waters' s album.
Too self-centered
@@79BlackRose The Final Cut is about PTSD... give it another chance with an open mind.
@@davesmith9680 I have listened to it many times. But the music on it is generally very poor.
@@79BlackRose 👍Roger Waters in The final cut rule ...too much...
it loops back to the beginning, mocking lifes circular pattern. Roger is a poet. His dad died in WW2. The worms are a french slang term for the nazis. Roger was showing how easy fascism can take over. It is something that needs to be paid attention to in america at this time.
Silas, I know a lot of people have suggested watching the movie, but here is something else if you're interested. You can watch a taped version of the live concert from 1980. It was such an extravagent show that it only played a few cities. It it, they constuct a giant wall as the show goes on and then blow it up in the end. Some other concepts come out, such the surrogate band. ruclips.net/video/LclCKexMjAs/видео.html
This is a concept album with an amazing film. Watching the film makes it make more sense, yet the film is very ambiguous so you need to decipher it. This is one of the most unique albums ever made. Compare it to Mozart and Bach. This is a rock opera for the ages. I first heard it as a teen in 1989. It made me cry and it stayed with me for months. It was so powerful. I had some older friends who would rent it, every weekend, and drop acid before watching it. It was nuts!! An absolute classic. Perfect!
Thanks Silas, looking forward to what is next... 😎
Hey Silas, sorry I’ve not commented on these videos I’ve been on holiday.
So glad you chose to listen to The Wall. It’s an immense album.
Roger Waters is a brilliant lyricist and at this time he was pretty much in charge of Pink Floyd - the problem was that the rest of the band didn’t really put him in charge so their relationship started to fall apart.
If you get a chance to watch the live concert Roger did a few years ago you get the full affect of “the Wall” that’s built between Roger and the audience
Listen to "Meddle", the album where Roger Waters in his own words said he began to write about other people...live at Pompeii from 1972 gives you a real depth of the band visually and sonically, just how tight they were as a four piece. Also the soundtrack album " Obscured by Clouds from 1972, had some brilliant tracks on it.😎👍
So glad I grew up when I did. It's a bit sad that kids today can't take in a song without obligatory white guilt hanging heavily over the art.
You did very well with this and you get a thumbs up for making it through what many would see as challenging material. and as others have said what we are presented with is not necessary the creators own world view but an examination of other world views and their consequences.
Part of the clue is that it is sung in a mad maniacal way and the music is stilted and parodied, If you have ever seen punch/ political cartoons you can imagine all the characters looking like that.
I Covered conflict in 20 century as my GCSE history when i was 14 ish and we watched some films about "the final Solution" and there were not many at the time. However most of the things referenced here were taught as part of the UK history in schools.
🤔 This is all so very interesting. Most of this material I had never heard before.
My heart goes out to all the people that suffered during WWII. I can’t even imagine those times.
Great reaction. Seriously, you don't need to worry about not understanding the entire meaning of the album at first, or enjoying every song. It's a deep dive and not designed as just a set of catchy easily digestible songs, but an entire theme (as you already know). This is why it's best listened to in the context of it telling a story, which upon re-listens makes the more obscure and dark moments all the more affecting.
With regards to diving deeper into Pink Floyd, now that you've done the big 4 albums I'd suggest you go back to the Meddle album first. Meddle is essentially the blueprint for their big 4 albums that you've listened to. It's a pretty good album in itself and has the epic 23 minute song 'Echoes', which is essential listening and probably their greatest song. After that you could dive into early Floyd which is very psychedelic late 60's rock, that has a very different sound and not to everyone's taste. Alternatively you could go for the later Floyd albums, which were made without Roger Waters. They're far more commercial sounding but very good, especially The Division Bell which is massively underrated in my opinion. The several other albums inbetween these periods are varied in quality, and only recommended to hardcore Floyd fans (again, in my opinion).
AT LEAST A Saucerful of Secrets, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle of early Pink Floyd and Division Bell of late PF. Maybe Hey Hey Rise Up single from 2022.
The wall was brought down!
Dude - It Is a Movie.
So much will slot together when you get to see it in context.
Listen to them in concert. Pulse live. You’ll be blown away
Pink Floyd has a few live concerts that feature The Wall -- I think one was in reference to the Berlin Wall falling down in 1980 - awesome ((on youtube)
WAITING FOR THE WORMS is responsible for one of the most iconic images in Floyd history: the goose-stepping hammers
I have listened to this album so many times. But through your reaction, it’s funny you kept saying you were missing stuff, but through that i got things I never got before. You should honesty go straight into The Final Cut. Rolling Stone magazine (Kurt Loder) called it rock music’s crowning masterpiece when it was first released. They have since revised their review, and history has not been kind to that album. Some people adore it, some people abhor it. Would love to see your reaction and it is next in line!
Silas, you're gonna need to listen to this a few more times before you get it fully, and I'll second the suggestion of other commenters to see the movie. Also, you might be interested in the Virgin Rock channel's take on some of this stuff. The woman who runs that channel is a music teacher, and she really does a good job of explaining the story, and what's going on on the surface, vs the symbolic and metaphorical levels.
Hey, I suggest you to continue in chronological order and react to The Final Cut. This one's theme is about how war influences ordinary man's life
Have you done Meddle? Can't wait to see what you make of Echoes!
None of the remaining Floyd albums demand such a deep dive as the four you've done. The rest of the best of their songs are all on offer in the live Pulse show from 1994. It is peak Pink Floyd, and is available in a new "Restored and Re-edited" version on youtube. The whole thing is a beautiful spectacle.
As well they recorded a video called "Live at Pompeii", in 1972, and it is also great. Here you will find the best version of their epic song Echoes. The whole video is great though. Pompeii was a town in Italy that in 79AD was suddenly buried in meters of volcanic ash, killing everyone instantly and preserving the whole town for centuries.
Over the years Pompeii has been excavated. Floyd recorded a whole show there, playing to an empty and overgrown amphitheater. Or playing for the ghosts of Pompeii, if that's your thing.
Pink Floyd pulse concert comfortably numb live
Keep talking from that concert rarely gets reacted to would be a good place to start
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The whole Pulse show is more worthy of a reaction than almost anything really.
Yes you get their great music and the voice and guitar of David Gilmore ❤️
Yes you get to hear there best songs that have a story of their own, you don't have to read it, we can talk after
Quite an incredible album with elements of Roger & Syd mixed up but oh so impressive a concept, despite this would be really the last time all 4 members of the band contributed together. And for history buffs this album was released almost 10 years to the day the Berlin wall came down in November 1989....another mad bugger's wall....celebrated in a 'A Great Day for Freedom' from Pink Floyd's 'The Division Bell'.
Please react to Pink Floyds "Division Bell" album next.
Well done Silas, you made it thru The Wall. The movie is a must see, and you will understand it so much more.
and now you MUST go back in your own time and listen in ONE sitting - no interruptions!
The easiest way is to go here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall
And read the Concept and Storyline. It explains it pretty well.
Don't worry, you can continue to be a Pink Floyd fan. They didn't turn into fascists. That part was a hallucination during a show. Good reaction. I'm enjoying watching you discover some of the best rock music ever.
I've enjoyed this experience with you mate
You gotta watch the movie too
If you want to look into the origins of the band the album Relics is a great place to start. A greatest hits of the band led by Syd Barret.
Of course check out the Wall: the movie. Check out Meddle, particularly Echoes and Live at Pompeii.
You're in deep-dive territory now!
In "Waiting for the Worms" he'stalking about the Nazi's and fascism.
I went to the Roger Waters The Wall tour about 10 to 12 years ago 5 times. 2 times on the rail. I could feel the wind of the falling bricks. It was just an unreal mind boggling show. you can find some videos on the original tour, but it's poor quality. Waters released a bluray of his tour and it is a great watch.
Also in E gland at that time of this Album,england had aconservative govt and w as closing mines,putting a lot of people out of work
Check out "The Final Cut", a very underrated album (some Pink Floyd die-hard fans don't like it, especially since Roger Waters made Richard Wright redundant and he was no longer with the band, and there were also tensions between Waters and David Gilmour, leading eventually to their split) but musically, all personal animosities aside, it is a great album, containing, again, interesting, moving, clever lyrics against the war. Check out also "The Division Bell", another great album by Pink Floyd, after Waters had left, and containing another set of great lyrics. You can also check out solo albums by each of the musicians - absolutely stunning music and, again, equally stunning lyrics.
I think The Final Cut is dreadful. If it wasn't Pink Floyd I don't think I would have listened to it twice. Yeah, Roger Waters was the root of all tensions with everyone else (including Bob Ezrin on The Wall). Waters solo albums are awful. IMO, A Momentary Lapse Of Reason is far better than The Division Bell. I suggest Silas' next reaction is to the excellent Meddle album.
The Final Cut is an excellent album, which was released when I was a teen. I didn't understand it when it first came out, and then... I became an adult and went to war.
No, no, no , The Final Cut was by the first listening and is a musical disappointement. Roger gone his way (see the solo albums) and built HIS WALL, ends with his "inflated" The Wall Tours.
But I had and have great respect to release such a profund contraversary album - in keeping with today's current events. All say - see the reactions on the internet - it's his father story in the second world war.
I was and am sure it was the political situation in GB around 1980 which the inteligent Rick inspired to create such an extraordinary album (unfortunately history repeats itself);
for the young generation: Thatcher and Falkland WAR. UK's Traitor, harsh media scolding, specially in GB.
Yes there were some interviews, since then I use the salutation Mr Gilmour who built HIS OWN WALL.
Both lead Rick outside or he was on his self-discovery strip. Who knows? who cares? the music count.
A detail to smile at: summer 1994 I was so in love; to strengthen and gather me I jogged with the walkman and Division Bell a summer long in a endless loop at the fantastic coast near Bordeaux. The album has good single songs, good guitar parts and a liitle bit of the old atmosherical vibes
Only now I have got to know the heavy tanker PULSE. Somehow I have the impression both have landed at the same place without meeting each other.
Pink Floyd are THE FOUR, pardon Syd THE FIVE.
@@79BlackRose Well, I guess it's up to each person's musical tastes. To me, when talking about post-Waters albums, The Division Bell is incomparably better than A Momentary Lapse of Reason. The latter has maybe one great song, and maybe two-three which are bearable, the rest is, to say the least, uninteresting. When it comes to solo albums by Waters, they are not equal (in my personal book Radio KAOS being the worst, and Amused to Death being the best), but they are great, both musically and lyrically. The lyrics are stinging, accusatory, sarcastic, and very well reflecting the state of the human race. True, recently Mr. Waters has shamed himself by blaming the war in Ukraine on the support of arms by the West and by accusing Biden (makes me think Mr. Waters is slowly becoming a right-wing extremist) rather than Putin, but that is something entirely different from his music. Actually, much as I don't like how Waters treated Wright, Gilmour, Ezrin and more, I believe that his solo albums are better than those of Gilmour (which doesn't mean Gilmour's are bad, they are simply not as etching into memory and emotions as those by Waters). And let's not forget the solo albums by Wright which on the one hand seem to be neglected, and on the other hand are (again, my personal opinion) best of them all.
Early Pink Floyd: The piper at the gates of dawn (1967), A saucerful of secrets (1968), Ummagumma (1969, double album), Atom heart mother (1970), Meddle (1971), Relics (1971, early singles), Music from the film More (1969), Obscured by clouds (1972, film music). Late Pink Floyd: The final cut (1983), A momentary lapse of reason (1987), The Division bell (1994). Every album is different, so I recommend all. It's music journey, you cannot be prepared for. After Pink Floyd you should try: Frank Zappa, King Crimson, The Residents, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles, Janis Joplin, Nirvana, Bjork, Portishead, Primus, Amy Winehouse, Dire Straits.
yes, a lot of the more horrible lyrics are satire. As Roger said, "if they weren't satire, it would be horrible." the character Pink descends into delusion and a form of madness, so all of the most disturbing things he; been exposed to eat in to him"the worms ate into his brain" so in his fever dream mind he becomes a fascist demigod to the adoring crowd, the sea of faces. But finally his humanity breaks though and STOP! He judges himself though all of the people who in his fragile state made him crazy. Funally he tears down his own wall
Do the album that comes right before DARK SIDE & all the 1970s albums you just reviewed - it's called MEDDLE.
📢🎶"go, watch the Wall!.. go, watch the wall!.. Go watch the wall!".... 😁
The video of their album, Echoes, Live at Pompeii, is pretty damned powerful, playing straight to the ages. It's a single vid, but you might watch it, on or off channel.
You really need to watch the movie:))
Good luck finding this movie. Maybe a vhs is available somewhere.
You definitely should listen to Meddle and I also recommend Atom heart mother. AHM is where they start to find their sound and craft for future albums.
Probably other people have already mentioned for you to watch the movie of the wall. It gives a lot greater context to the album and compliments the music greatly.
Enjoyed watching your reactions to pink floyd. It's great to see another generation embrace their music.
Hope you do more albums by pink Floyd. Enjoyed your reactions. Couple of great bands that do 'whole albums' are The Who. and Alice Cooper.
Now you should watch the movie so you can get context because listening without seeing is like explaining colors to the blind
Now watch the movie! The songs on the album tell the story, but when you turn it into a movie that follows the album, the things that didn't make sense will!
It is a parody. This is what happens when people succumb to fear and isolation. It leads to hatred, like the followers of Nazi Germany and the oppression of others. If you remember in the song Hey You, the worms ate into his brain. The character, Pink, became consumed by hatred, where he eventually, said STOP! That was enough. He realized hatred, fear, and isolation was not the right path to take and he put himself on trial where he purges all these feelings, and he knew loving others and living away from isolation was the true path to take in his life. Note the other symbols, like the hammer among other things, is a symbol of oppression. I hope that helps you understand those lyrics. They are harsh, but it's actually a critic of real-life oppression.
"Woah"!.... perfect
Silas.... "In the Flesh" and "Follow the Worms" are SUPPOSED to disturb you!!! This is where society PUSHES people.... The Nazi symbolism is rife through those two songs, this is what happens when we conform to the idea of "Us versus Them" .... "Follow the worms and conform!" Stop! screams Pink... And then "The Trial" where he is tried in his mind (by his own mind as well) for all the ways he failed.... Pink is destroyed mentally when his walls come down, it's over for him, but there is hope, because "Outside the Wall" there are those who keep reaching out to people...
Eventually you should do Amused To Death by Roger Waters. It's another theatre of the mind.
I'm usually long-winded but in this case I'll just reiterate what so many are saying, just watch the movie and you'll understand the music much better!
As far as all the things you're worried about that sound racist they're meant to be but they're meant to be racist from the point of view of a group of Nazi fascists, brown shirts and SS Nazis who rounded up Jewish people during World War II. They did this so that all the German people would have a common enemy and Hitler created an enemy that way to unify the German people for a common cause which was basically to take over Zu vorld!! So basically those were evil fascists rounding up the artists and bleeding hearts kind of representing the Nazis versus the Jews. Don't feel bad about listening to it it was a parody and meant to sound the way it did! See I became long-winded anyway..
Listen.
It boggles my mind how people say they they want equality, but there's so many separate groups
You missed a very important line in your PT. 6. in the middle of In The Flesh. " I've got some bad news for you sunshine, Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel and they sent us along as a surrogate band" This is the emergence of the main character's (Pink) newly formed alter ego who is basically a fascist. Simply put, a defense mechanism. This new version of himself carries on into Run Like Hell. Now that you will be watching the movie you will actually see him change.
Meddle may be the most important album as it shows off their wide range as well as the change in direction they make. Meddle to me has always been the album that allows us to experience the inside of the cocoon as the metamorphosis happens in front of our very ears. Ummagumma is also not to be missed.
Now go watch the movie with a friend. Peace/JT
Flubbert is spot on! Meddle is some much earlier Floyd and severely underrated...genius.
Check it out and just get "lost in the sauce"!
Fearless is my favorite.
The Final Cut is like the third album of the Wall and should be your next. Thanks 😎
Ma no...c'è di meglio
The Wall project was a 3 part venture. The album, the tour and the movie. Unfortunately the recordings of the live shows were extremely poor. I think there's maybe 3 songs worthy of watching.
I'd highly suggest seeing Roger's solo tour of the Wall from 2010 thru 2013. It's on RUclips and DVD. Keep in mind, the story is all about Floyd "Pink" Pinkerton's life from birth to growing up to be a rock star who's ego and pressures of growing up all come to a head as he battles his demons. The Wall is a reference to him shutting out society's pressures and thus thinking it shelters him from such, only for it to actually make things worse. It's a very, very deep album and frankly a psychoanalyst's wet dream.
the live in berlin version is also exceptional with many guest stars portraying the characters in the story.
@@DannyD714 Yeah, I'm just not too fond of that show though. Thought it was a bit off. I don't recall all the details, but I found out a few years ago that they had numerous issues with the production and a good portion of the recording was done the night before during the dress rehearsal and no audience. That and Roger wasn't happy with a few of the artists renditions of the actual show. If I recall Sinead O'Conner ticked him off the most.
Before you move on to others bands, please listen to Echoes off their Meddle album. It is, to me, their most “psychedelic” or”progressive ” piece…..a TOTAL mind trip. Definitely a “dark room”, listen. ✌️😉
Te saludo desde argentina, buena reacción del álbum the wall, podrías reacción al álbum pulse qué está en vivo o a alguna de las canciones, fue un gran show de pink Floyd
Over 200,000 citizens attended the wall concert at the Berlin wall it was torn down in I believe the year 1989 and Roger Waters performed it with many guest artist including Cyndi Lauper and the German band the scorpions who are absolutely fantastic
I hope you give The Final Cut a listen I thinks it’s an awesome album or maybe Roger Waters solo album Amused To Death