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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 457

  • @albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797
    @albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 3 года назад +328

    I love watching videos about headphones I can't afford

    • @Leo.SKDXL05
      @Leo.SKDXL05 3 года назад +8

      tbh we are not really missing out! If u had $6k to flex on a pair headphones I'll probably wouldn't need a RUclips video to justify my purchase...🤷‍♂️...still good quality video by Joshua.

    • @MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING
      @MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING 3 года назад +1

      Me too

    • @TheDesignProtocol
      @TheDesignProtocol 3 года назад

      expensive headphone reviews might as well be a cult.
      All I can afford is an Audeze LCD-2F, but I like to imagine
      if I got rich, what I'd buy. But my inability to afford expensive
      headphones, got me into audio cables, as a way to bump your
      headphones into the next price category. I have a $300 6N+ OCC
      copper cable, and I must say, the improvement is so great (after
      roughlly 200 hours of burn in) I'm not sure why all these reviewers
      are luke warm or cold on 6N/7N OCC copper/silver. I now seriouslly
      question whether an LCD-X with it's stock cable would outperform
      an LCD-2 with a $300 6N/7N OCC 8 Wire Cable. I wish someone
      would do this comparison.

    • @Leo.SKDXL05
      @Leo.SKDXL05 3 года назад +3

      @@TheDesignProtocol bRuH...$300 for cables...don't get me wrong Periapt has a wad of my hard earned money, but bRuH...I'm glad they paid of on the promise for you! Long live the hobby & revolution! 👊

    • @TheDesignProtocol
      @TheDesignProtocol 3 года назад +1

      @@Leo.SKDXL05 It makes sense
      from a chemistry point of view. When
      they cast 'bells' for example, they know
      the more orderly the crystalline structure,
      the better the sound of the bell. Now apply
      to audio cables.

  • @MIO9_sh
    @MIO9_sh 2 года назад +39

    I personally had listened to the susvara at a headphone store (and lucky they do have a demo unit for it). Listened to it for once, and I'm going back to the store every week or so just to get back that feeling. I can't really comment much on it, nor is it really *that* spectacular sounding since I have an HD800S as my daily driver, but the whole thing of "naturalness" really cuts through the whole review. Every time I listen to the Susvara, I feel relaxed, and start to get sleepy, even when there legit is hardcore stuff playing, it is THAT natural sounding of a headphone. That's something that I can get ever so close but never get there with EQ, the Susvara is always irreplaceable in its own term. Not the best in any area, but definitely a well-rounder for anything you could imagine throwing at it.

    • @noob9103
      @noob9103 11 месяцев назад

      you should try susvara with loud speaker driving power amp. it will knock the hell out of you. you would not look for anyother headphone.

  • @ResolveReviews
    @ResolveReviews 3 года назад +79

    "Girthier regions of the vocal response" - I gotta steal this description. Any opportunity to describe something as 'girthy' should be taken.

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 3 года назад +1

      funny thing Andrew, I listened to it at an audio show powered by WA33..... it genuinely didn't blow my socks off based on the price alone..... i think it's a great headphone but is not 'special'

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews 3 года назад +3

      @@fatdoi003 Yeah I mean some people prefer a certain kind of flavor, which the AB1266TC may be better suited to. Personally I prefer the kind of reference sound the Susvara gives.

    • @metal571
      @metal571 3 года назад +11

      Girth

    • @Seanonyoutube
      @Seanonyoutube 3 года назад +1

      This is a girthy comment

    • @niko1even
      @niko1even 3 года назад

      *G I R T H*

  • @beautiful_ground
    @beautiful_ground 3 года назад +26

    When the headphones are sus.

  • @derzemel
    @derzemel 3 года назад +64

    Now ask them to send you the Shangri-La :P

    • @RossKyle95
      @RossKyle95 3 года назад +2

      quite a few folk prefer susvara greatly to even the shangri la

  • @dipeshshrestha1917
    @dipeshshrestha1917 3 года назад +22

    Susvara is probably the best cans I have heard. I have Abyss TC but I still use Susvara way way more .

    • @robertreynolds2212
      @robertreynolds2212 3 года назад +1

      I’m torn between the 2. I’ve heard the 1266 and was very impressed. Dying to try the Susvara.

    • @niko1even
      @niko1even 2 года назад

      @@robertreynolds2212 Shelf Bracket vs Industrial Masterpiece

    • @bak2mb
      @bak2mb Год назад

      what amp u driving with it?

    • @kiavaxxaskew
      @kiavaxxaskew Год назад

      The Abyss in synergy may sound better than the Susvaras in synergy.

    • @ryderhu2296
      @ryderhu2296 4 месяца назад

      Yes, susvara is more enjoyable, and way much comfortable.

  • @TheTimmy3010
    @TheTimmy3010 3 года назад +20

    Had the opportunity to try a bunch of headphones in one room. The "Naturalness" of the Susvara made me prefer it over the AB1266 with its "Hyperdetailed" characteristic.

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 8 месяцев назад

      its still the better cans, and worth buying, although yeah, above user review/comment describe it accurately

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 8 месяцев назад

      actually those in range offer same 'pleasing sound', ambient pro, a18t, phonix, premier, multiverse, so good luck choosing

  • @ewso100
    @ewso100 3 года назад +17

    Whoa! Susvara actually got a review?!
    Maybe there is still a small hope for ZMF Verite open/closed getting reviewed?

  • @Precogvision
    @Precogvision 3 года назад +61

    Hey, I just want to point out that - realistically - a 1dB channel imbalance is not going to be perceptible to the average person's ear. Most manufacturers have leeway of upwards of 2dB. By all accounts, what you've depicted in the measurement is actually excellent channel matching and well-within quality control standards; however, all the more power to you if you can actually hear a 1dB imbalance!

    • @jashan1741
      @jashan1741 3 года назад +12

      The thing is this is not a avg person. This is for a person who wants the best of the best and At 6 grand, I want 0 imbalance

    • @Precogvision
      @Precogvision 3 года назад +32

      @@jashan1741 Sure, I understand that. But ignoring that it's next to impossible to hear 1dB of imbalance, the rig that this was conducted on - the MiniDSP Ears - is notoriously inaccurate too!

    • @MIO9_sh
      @MIO9_sh 2 года назад

      @@Precogvision if your headphone doesn't have precise imagine, nor do you expect those, then of course it's not noticeable. But we're talking end game headphones, we carefully evaluate every single aspect of its sound, and that 1db imbalance is already enough to warp the whole soundstage into the 4th dimension, which is not what we're looking for

  • @thomasni123
    @thomasni123 3 года назад +177

    $6000 for:
    > Hifiman QC
    > A shitty cable
    >"kind of good" build
    ???

    • @flossenking
      @flossenking 3 года назад +46

      Profit

    • @Aurosis
      @Aurosis 3 года назад

      ???

    • @MosoKaiser
      @MosoKaiser 3 года назад

      Hifiman

    • @SuperSeigerman
      @SuperSeigerman 3 года назад +13

      Your paying for all that gold.... It's pure status that's all your buying with these.

    • @allydea
      @allydea 3 года назад +12

      The price is of course stupid, but the headphone is very nice, if it passes QC.

  • @TechnoGuy11
    @TechnoGuy11 3 года назад +19

    The Susvara has not been around since the original HD800, I believe it was released around 2017 and the original HD800 came out in like 2009.

    • @mobbaddictchannel
      @mobbaddictchannel 3 года назад +8

      True, dude should check his facts.

    • @zeke937
      @zeke937 3 года назад +1

      I think he got it confused with the HE-6 from Hifiman.

  • @gomdoryzoa
    @gomdoryzoa 3 года назад +11

    Thanks for your informative review. They’ve been selling a new version of Susvaras with 3.5mm termination quite a while, including mine. (difference’s only in the termination)

    • @Smood47
      @Smood47 3 года назад +4

      ya he didn't know about that

  • @djclass005
    @djclass005 3 года назад +14

    I own the Ananda and I love it more every day. easy to drive, punchy bass, open sounding. lots of details. just great!

    • @nortonfamily6711
      @nortonfamily6711 3 года назад +1

      Indeed. Its staging capabilities and ability to separate out different layers of a track really is incredible.

    • @badgermcbadger1968
      @badgermcbadger1968 2 года назад

      Weird. The egg shaped hifiman's are notorious for soft transients, no? Atleast so it feels on my edition xs, but it's pretty underpowered

  • @hamedshahr
    @hamedshahr 3 года назад +136

    Hifiman's infamous QC yet again.

    • @trilingualkid
      @trilingualkid 3 года назад +3

      own mine for 3 years, nothing is wrong with it?

    • @Sand_1995
      @Sand_1995 3 года назад +13

      I owned a HE400i 2020 edition. Replaced them thrice. All 3 units had massive channel imbalance

    • @brianp4199
      @brianp4199 3 года назад +1

      @@Sand_1995 MADE IN CHINA

    • @Sand_1995
      @Sand_1995 3 года назад +20

      @@brianp4199 literally everything is made in China these days. Its the standards that matter. Hifiman has poor standards and it shows.

    • @brianp4199
      @brianp4199 3 года назад +11

      @@Sand_1995 For that money they need to test every single one that rolls off the assembly line. Not just spot check.

  • @SkywhiteChannel
    @SkywhiteChannel 2 года назад +7

    Three quick points.
    Susvara has the best tone of any flagship.
    Only flagship that doesn’t have a issue/deficit that you need to EQ.
    Sounds the most natural of any flagship.
    I find this review very odd with your takeaways and I own the 1266TC, Diana TC, Focal Uptopia, Audeze LCD5.

  • @ashishrajoba135
    @ashishrajoba135 3 года назад +35

    Sundara, Aarya, Ananda and now Susvara. Am I the only one seeing this? There has to be an Indian guy in Hifiman who is naming those headphones!

    • @zekion.
      @zekion. 3 года назад +1

      Yeah there is. :)

    • @albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797
      @albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 3 года назад +10

      Hifiman deva too

    • @mariominayag
      @mariominayag 3 года назад

      Haha i heard the names with indian accent now 🤣 cool names tho

    • @SuperSeigerman
      @SuperSeigerman 3 года назад +2

      So are those just normal names in India or are they tied with Indian folklore, history, or religion. Some of them seem familiar to me but not all of them.

    • @anirudhr3141
      @anirudhr3141 3 года назад +2

      @@SuperSeigerman except susvara, the other 3 are pretty common names in India...

  • @TiagrajI
    @TiagrajI 3 года назад +10

    Hifiman reminded me of all my Sanskrit knowledge. Susvara means sweet voiced😊

    • @prla5400
      @prla5400 3 года назад +1

      lmao
      I read Sus-vara

  • @robertreynolds2212
    @robertreynolds2212 2 года назад +9

    They are the best sounding headphones I’ve ever put on my head. When powered properly (10-12W+), they sing, and I mean SING. Depth, detail, imaging, you name it. The only headphones I’ve tried that come close are the Utopia & Abyss 1266, & even then, the only benefit they have is more efficiency (1266 not by much). These headphones are special.

  • @thelastrhino2581
    @thelastrhino2581 3 года назад +36

    11:25 Casually grabs a 1266 from among other items on his desk, just as an aside. :) Josh flex.

  • @annona718
    @annona718 3 года назад +3

    My buddy has it. He preaches it constantly

  • @dannybos7024
    @dannybos7024 3 года назад +48

    Still waiting for the Hifiman Shangry-La review

  • @nonnegaard
    @nonnegaard 3 года назад +14

    Hell yeah, I've been waiting for this for a looonggg time!

  • @User_not_found_403
    @User_not_found_403 3 года назад +3

    Hi Josh, good assessment of the Susvara's. I own a set of these and I would agree with you on them leaving you a tad bit wanting on the bass and mid-range, but overall being very well balanced and natural. I think that's what attracted me to them, they sounded very life-like even with CD quality music. That being said - the right pairing can fill those small voids. Namely an R2R dac and amplification with some meat on the bones (many Susvara owners power these from high-end amps from speaker taps). You are right - its gonna be a solution for people who have a desktop/tethered setup and if you are going through all those hoops to listen - there may be better priced options that are less clunky. Surprisingly - you can drive them to enjoyable levels using a Earstudio ES100 in balanced mode!

  • @alexkhan2000
    @alexkhan2000 3 года назад +6

    I had this for a while. I was on the verge of replacing it with the Abyss AB-1266 Phi TC that Joshua christened "The Best of the Year/Decade". Then I changed my mind and opted for the RAAL-requisite SR1a. Waiting for it to come in next week. I have the necessary gear for it. Based on what I've been reading and hearing from audiophiles and enthusiasts I trust and have known for years, the RAAL is supposed to be the real deal with a completely different technology (ribbon drivers) than planar magnetic, dynamic or electrostatic. When top flight sound engineers and producers say that it surpasses anything they've tried (and by a LOT), it's hard to ignore.
    Joshua, please put the RAAL SR1a on your list to review. I know you'll get to it eventually. You always do!

    • @bigjay1970
      @bigjay1970 3 года назад

      Did they arrive?🤔

    • @x32i77
      @x32i77 2 года назад

      Don't forget about Sonoma acoustics bravura

  • @c4monkey
    @c4monkey 3 года назад +3

    Got HE6se for 650 and I love them. Most natural representation I've heard at a fraction of these. Only thing is the comfort, they don't stay very well on my head so might try some different pads if the adjustments don't work

  • @mrfrosty3
    @mrfrosty3 3 года назад +5

    I get the feeling that this isn't the first time I have heard of a flagship headphone being intended for those who don't want to spend time researching and would rather skip straight to the top model. So it needs to be as pleasant and inoffensive as possible to most people.

    • @noob9103
      @noob9103 11 месяцев назад

      this misleading review make you think that. susvara is all round headphone that sounds like a flagship speaker. dont listen to joshua anymore.

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 3 года назад +5

    My guess is a HE6 SEv2 for $700 from adorama + a speaker amp will provide 90% of the performance for 30% of the cost.

  • @stephannordmann5346
    @stephannordmann5346 3 года назад +2

    I stay with the HE1000 V2 I Love it

  • @xeniavader
    @xeniavader 3 года назад +6

    To me, very close to the Abyss, but actually comfortable.
    Your hearing is VERY different to mine. These are absolutely amazing headphones.

  • @faithhopelove6945
    @faithhopelove6945 Год назад +3

    The Susvara is
    simply the
    😇KING 😇
    of "All in One "

  • @commercio3564
    @commercio3564 3 года назад +3

    Ah finally. The review is here. Great as usual. Bit disappointed that you couldn't get a new unit and that the sound quality isn't mega impressive. I think I'll be getting the Arya for my next headphone and go from there.

  • @Abraxus34
    @Abraxus34 3 года назад +9

    Joshua please take a look at the electrostatic Shangrila-Jr set. I really would like to hear your opinion of this 8k usd set

  • @yahu5988
    @yahu5988 3 года назад +28

    6000 dollar headphones should sound so good that you cannot even fathom it
    Its ridiculous that these things even have flaws at that price at all
    Headphones should sound extremely good already at 1000 dollars

    • @badgermcbadger1968
      @badgermcbadger1968 2 года назад +5

      The only flawless headphone is he-1..... and it costs 60,000€ without taxes and the amp

    • @BIadelores
      @BIadelores 2 года назад +2

      That's why I still feel the HD 800 S is undefeated as the ultra high end/end game headphone. At 1800 dollars it easily beats headphones that sale for more twice that price in spacing, clarity and quality. Not flawless (bit of a bad treble spike in its frequency response), and not for everyone due to slightly weak bass, but I think that's the priciest headphone that justifies its price tag. The Susvara and others like the Utopia do certain things better to a degree, but neither of them justify their price tag just by themselves, and next to the HD 800 S (And especially something like HD 600 which is even better value, if a little inferior in resolution and imaging), they're practically robbery.

    • @soulfulfool
      @soulfulfool Год назад +1

      @@BIadelores 800s is also overpriced for that plastic build and flaws that you mentioned, hd600 is best value thats true

    • @thecompanioncube4211
      @thecompanioncube4211 Год назад +1

      Lol no. HD 800s at this point in time are only worth for gaming. You could spend quite less than HD800s and get better sound quality

    • @BIadelores
      @BIadelores Год назад

      @@thecompanioncube4211 Not really. I have never heard better headphones for some of the type of music I listen to, and I've tried these Susvara and most Focal headphones. Might wanna get a nice tube amp if you think they don't have high audio quality because solid states don't cut it.

  • @russb3n
    @russb3n 3 года назад +5

    Josh awesome thumbnail shot and video very nice.. This is my 2 cents after just receiving the Susvara about 4-weeks ago compared to all of my current headphone lineup Utopia, Z1R, HD800, Empyrean, list goes on and I must say I think you are total wrong about the Susvara. My first week pairing it with the only AMPS I have on hand which was the Topping A90, Monoprice THX 887, Violectric V281, Emotiva Basx A-100 (unleashed), Audio gd Master 9 amp, along with my Chord Dave AMP/DAC and none of these AMPS did the Susvara's any justice. Tell I received my Woo Audio WA33 Elite AMP where the Susvara's really showed itself. When you get into higher end gear you should have high end equipment around it and everyone knows that. I see you had the STOCK WA22 I mean WA33 ;) which I have listened too many times and will do the job 90% and surprised you still did not like them, but what I am hearing I really think the DAC Source with cables start to come into play here $99 Topping DAC will not cut it. I try to listen to each headphone each night and so far what I have listened too (I have not listened too 1266 Phi TC yet) my other HP's do not even compete. And for anyone out there that are ANALOG people which I am this is as close to VINYL using digital your going to get just pure detail no fatigue what so ever just a very balanced headphone. Bottom line the Susvara's need HIGH END equipment around it DACS/AMPS to really bring out it full potential and sorry no Schiit stack will do the job here. Still waiting on the WA33 review.. :(

    • @digitalnation2876
      @digitalnation2876 3 года назад

      is this better than Diana V2 ?

    • @russb3n
      @russb3n 3 года назад

      @@digitalnation2876 I’m still waiting to buy a Abyss headphone everything is back ordered. But you will need a Amplifier to power the Susvara to there capabilities. I’ve tried lower end Dacs and Headphone Amps and they just sounded okay. But when you add amplification you will see them shine..

  • @Sporting1210
    @Sporting1210 3 года назад +8

    This is the only headphone I ever tried, that managed (and manages) to give me actual goosebumps. Good live recordings get a "je ne said quoi" with these, that other Flaggships i tried simply do not deliver.

    • @Sporting1210
      @Sporting1210 3 года назад +2

      @@juanfernando6347 It's hard to explain, but let's take the Arya as example. It is a great pair of headphones and they sound BIG and wide and competent, but the Susvara has a bit less and more at the same time. It's the most natural headphonei ever heard, hence the great performance with live recording i guess. I really can't explain it, but i swear these goosebumps appear every time with certain albums ( examples: Keith Jarrett - Cologne Concert , Baden Powell - Tristeza on guitar, Anais Mitchell - Hadestown and - a tad more modern - Bugge Wesseltoft New Conception of jazz - Moving)
      But allways remember: ears are different-what feels for me like liquid music being poured directly in my hearing center, might not work for you - so plz dont take my word :>

  • @ianmacdonald4163
    @ianmacdonald4163 3 года назад +3

    When the Sundara is sus 0_0!

  • @bobbou
    @bobbou 3 года назад +2

    My Hifiman Aryas had the same issue with channel imbalance, where the left channel was around 1.5dB louder. I got a return pair without any issues at all though, and they work great!

    • @allydea
      @allydea 3 года назад +3

      How were you able to tell the imbalance?

    • @soulfulfool
      @soulfulfool Год назад

      @@allydea he got ears? or just measure it lol

    • @kiavaxxaskew
      @kiavaxxaskew Год назад +1

      ​@@allydea his mom farted.

  • @fan2hd277
    @fan2hd277 3 года назад +3

    HiFiman in a nutshell. Also I like the diplomatic honesty. I personally think the HE1000 is the best they ever made.

  • @soopjung
    @soopjung 7 месяцев назад

    Paired these with a Ferrum OOR+WANDLA+HYPNOS stacked all together (which I consider the ultimate setup that works with any headphone in the world right now). It's really hard to describe how this headphone performs IMHO and without going into numbers, all I can say is I can listen to this headphone all day long without ever getting tired. Stuff that doesn't happen with the Focal Utopia 2022 for its narrow (but really mysterious, in a way) soundstage or the 800S that gives me the best soundstage but "cheaper" sound quality on basically everything else compared to the Susvara.
    I keep swapping between Susvara and the Utopia 2022, gave up on the 800S totally even tho I spent magical nights gaming with the Sennheiser one. I'd like to see a $4-5k Sennheiser 900s sitting beside both Utopia and Susvara up there on the throne.

  • @StatusQuo209
    @StatusQuo209 3 года назад +5

    Hifiman QC is garbage but their customer service is spot on. They completely replaced my Sundara with the latest revision with new pads even though the ripped pads were the only issue. They did this under my request.

  • @eruilluvitar
    @eruilluvitar 3 года назад +1

    Been excited for this review for a while! I'm so glad you did such a thorough job with it and made sure you did it justice. I'm glad I waited for your review before saving up.

  • @chrisnyc3641
    @chrisnyc3641 3 года назад +5

    Great review. My takeaway is that while it's not the best at any one thing, it isn't bad at anything, and that's what makes it stand out above all of the other flagships, each of which has something they just aren't very good at. It's the most balanced flagship, hence the price.

    • @jaehyunglee6564
      @jaehyunglee6564 3 года назад

      Right. That's exactly what i want to say.

    • @Smood47
      @Smood47 3 года назад

      Very well said

  • @rafaelmarques1314
    @rafaelmarques1314 3 года назад +3

    That vara is kinda sus

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 3 года назад +2

    Channel imbalance probably wouldn't bother me much as my ears are already imbalanced. My right ear is like 3% quieter than my left ear though oddly I can hear the same frequency range with it (think it's from using a weed wacker for over 10 years without hearing protection which obviously you hold on one side). Seems my ears just have random pits in what I can hear across the range which is just bazaar making finding that perfect headphone more annoying.

  • @pappsa8
    @pappsa8 3 года назад +1

    I just planning buy the Sundara,but these higher end hifimans just looks beutiful,i hope one day at least i can try them.And i like your videos man,very great job

  • @NexusS4GIceJelly
    @NexusS4GIceJelly 11 месяцев назад

    Wa22 won’t cut it lol. The stringent vocals and politeness across the frequency range that you perceive is lack of extremely precise driver control. Now try it with a Nautilus or Enelum 23R before you make your final judgment

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 3 года назад +2

    uh oh Josh has climbed almost all of the magical HP summit peaks thus far. The only missing ones he hasn't done yet: Final Audio D8000, Raal SR1A, Stax SR-009, shangri la, and shangri la jr. Any others missing?

    • @annona718
      @annona718 3 года назад +1

      The Jecklin Floats

  • @matticeverhoeven6539
    @matticeverhoeven6539 3 года назад +1

    Can you release a 10 minute video of your amazing shots? I just want to drool.

  • @mobbaddictchannel
    @mobbaddictchannel 3 года назад +1

    The original HD800 came out before even the original LCD-2, two decades ago!

    • @AWidgetIHaveNot
      @AWidgetIHaveNot 3 года назад +1

      And Sennheiser retailers still won't discount the HD800 or HD800S. Come on Sennheiser, update them both.

  • @DenisKudlik
    @DenisKudlik 3 года назад +4

    dude those macro shots are insane

  • @vancybergoth
    @vancybergoth 3 года назад +1

    The Susvara came out in mid-2017 and is over a year younger than the Utopia.

  • @daylightsensor8695
    @daylightsensor8695 3 года назад +9

    when the headset is sus 0_0

  • @bimmer100timc
    @bimmer100timc 3 года назад +1

    My favorite headphones. My go to pair, but they are super super picky about amplifiers. Only a handful of amps drive them properly.

    • @_chiaki_nanami_
      @_chiaki_nanami_ Год назад

      What amplifier would you recommend sir for these to be one's endgame collection

  • @leewilkinson9826
    @leewilkinson9826 3 года назад +4

    Sorry just cannot agree with the view on the intro here. You should 100% expect for a 6k flagship headphone that a QC issue such as imbalance should be caught in the testing. Ok for a 100 or 200 or 300 dollar/pound unit then yeah don't go mad its just normal and don't expect a premium testing and QC service and use the returns process. But for a 6k flagship product, sorry but NO! ..... Its not acceptable and you should not expect to ever receive a product with this issue, and if you do it should be replaced same day by with a personal helicopter delivery service, with the last mile dropped off in a Bugatti by a Man/Woman wearing white gloves :-) You are being too nice here. I love your reviews and content. Its really appreciated and I hope you see that its ok to feedback when you disagree. Thanks.

  • @FoxyPaulBlart
    @FoxyPaulBlart 3 года назад +3

    Sussy vara

  • @RossKyle95
    @RossKyle95 3 года назад +1

    Those flagships do things better, Susvara is a detail monster if anything it’s thing is timbre it’s crazy

  • @mariotriunfo
    @mariotriunfo 2 года назад +2

    please hifiman add a decent cable, is a 6k headphone!

  • @chaosdracos
    @chaosdracos 3 года назад +3

    When the headphones SUS

  • @prla5400
    @prla5400 3 года назад +2

    Liking for this guy's audiophile system.
    S u S

  • @christianblais3350
    @christianblais3350 2 года назад +1

    I hesitate between the SR1a, Susvara, SR-X9000 and Shangri-La Jr as my potential "endgame" HP. Do you think the Shangri-La Jr might be a good contender? (resolution, soundstage and natural timbre are my main criteria and of course, I will have to hear them before buying, not just hearing the sound demos available on the internet...) :)

  • @dontwatchmydoomvideos
    @dontwatchmydoomvideos 3 года назад +1

    Your videos are so good, you're almost to 100k subscribers, been following for a while now. But please hop on the trend of putting timestamps in the vid

    • @JohnGettler
      @JohnGettler 3 года назад

      I think that feature is called chapters.

  • @mikakarkkainen5479
    @mikakarkkainen5479 3 года назад +1

    I am glad that I came across to your reviews of headphones. They are awesome. I wonder if you could make a video of what is the best Bluetooth headphone in terms of sound quality. I appreciate more sound quality than noise cancelling. Maybe price tag could be student like. Maybe up to 300-400$. Thanks your deep insight into the world of headphones. 🙂

  • @mariodrv
    @mariodrv 3 года назад +1

    What DAC did you use? What amp? What tubes? Do you have a power cleaner/filter? What is your source? Cables?

  • @Vamp898
    @Vamp898 2 года назад +1

    The beginning makes it sound like 1000-3000€ Headphones are not as good.
    But one of the best Headphones in existence are in this price range, unless you are actually listening to music and not to the headphone.
    Also i never heard of one single case with Channel Imbalance from Sennheiser, Sony or Final... so i highly doubt that this a common thing. I think its just HifiMan.
    I mean, lets be honest, they sell that for 6999€ but the production price most likely is around 200-500€, roughly. They are just selling them for that price because they know that people will pay for it.
    But actually... its not a 7000€ headphone, not even close. And the reason it has channel imbalance was because it is cheaply produced.
    I'd rate the Final D8000 or Sony MDR-Z1R higher than this... and they sell cheaper even though they are both Made in Japan and have much higher production cost...
    I don't know, HifiMan, to me, is an unethical company that just ripps of audiophiles. Not that the others don't do that, but not as hard

  • @tomriddle2257
    @tomriddle2257 Год назад

    This product is a great donation for audio R&D! Please all buy, but I will get the next gen headphones.

  • @brandonburr4900
    @brandonburr4900 3 года назад +2

    I knew this wasn't a favorite of josh's once he got to the midrange performance. Josh loves headphones that can do great midrange. It's unfortunate to hear this headphone doesn't have that at this price category. I would get anything from abyss before this headphone. Even the half price Diana v2.

    • @soulfulfool
      @soulfulfool Год назад +1

      I wouldnt get anything from Abyss :) ugly and overpriced headphones, Hifiman is very very overpriced but at least deliver better sound. About midrange I never heard planars which does it better than dynamic driver headphones

  • @Stephenwongdirectimaging
    @Stephenwongdirectimaging Год назад

    Susvara match perfectly with burson Soloist GT amp enough power drive high recommended . I enjoy listening my susvara every nights

  • @bimmer100timc
    @bimmer100timc 3 года назад +2

    Did you use the hpa4? I know you only mentioned it. But many of the amps you suggest I would not say really gives this headphone an ability to achieve its best sound. :/

  • @jeffhuff1000
    @jeffhuff1000 3 года назад +1

    Joshua, FYI, many of your recommended equipment links are dead. You should have a look and update them.

  • @superchet4026
    @superchet4026 3 года назад +2

    sus!😳vara?

  • @GoodBoyShep
    @GoodBoyShep Год назад

    I had to send back my focal clears because it was making a weird buzz noise when bass hit, and the guy I spoke to sent me the one he currently was using lol

  • @poki6041
    @poki6041 2 года назад

    it's a electrostatic drivers :D , no distorsion and have the best trebbles but no't strong bass ,it's a orchestrum headphone :D

  • @bxg8097
    @bxg8097 3 года назад

    Very nice video! Extremely clear and clean, super satisfying macro shots and lighting imo

  • @HiFiGOAudio
    @HiFiGOAudio 3 года назад +1

    Your videos are so lovely to watch, I have always loved how neat B-rolls you put in your videos!!
    Great work on review of this planar flagship!! I have HiFiman Sundara that also looks delicate like this haha but costs way less.

  • @danrdey
    @danrdey 3 года назад

    Josh , you have absolutely best intro/outro music amongst all reviewers in the internet , if not the best ever amongst all private channels over RUclips ! Cheers .

  • @samson5erb312
    @samson5erb312 2 года назад +2

    Seems kinda sus

  • @CockatooDude
    @CockatooDude 3 года назад +1

    I think it might still be worth worrying about the amp. I'll give an example. At a head-fi meet I was at about 2 years ago, HeadAmp brought both a Susvara and a Meze Empyrean for people to take a listen to their amps with. To my surprise everyone there had been completely ignoring these headphones so I went over to an different guy with a questyle CMA400i, generally known as a very powerful amplifier, initially with the Susvara and asked if I could audition it. Long story short, it sounded great, the sound was kinda close but very impactful and accurate (although head-fi meets in my area don't have the best listening environments so I obviously didn't hear everything the headphones had to offer). Later I swapped it for the Empyreans and to me at least, everything improved. None of the accuracy or impact was lost but there was an additional sense of dynamics and width that wasn't present with the Susvara.
    Now what I assume here is that based on Josh's reviews of both headphones that the CMA400i just wasn't up to the task of powering these properly (even though I'm a sucker for the Empyreans) since I recall Josh saying that the Empyreans had a 1500 dollar sound while he is fine with the way these sound for 6 grand. Anyways, point is, watch the amp.

  • @sethagastya
    @sethagastya 3 года назад +16

    It’s actually pronounced su-swura and it means sweet voiced

  • @TheRyanshift
    @TheRyanshift 3 года назад +1

    When the headset is sounding kinda dubious 😳

  • @SinisterDev85
    @SinisterDev85 3 года назад +1

    Hey Josh, I know this video was about the Susvara, but I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention the Ananda at the part in the video when you were comparing the Arya and Sundara and how capable they are for their prices vs. the Susvara. I finally own the Ananda, and im really impressed with it overall. Ive had the Sundara for a while now too and i really love it. I know that you mainly referenced the Sundara and Arya because of what they're capable of for the money , but I'm curious, do you not consider the Ananda to be impressive/noteworthy for its price too? Especially now that its no longer a $1k headphone. I don't regret buying the Ananda (although i wish i could afford the Arya) but I value your opinion, because i think we have similar ears lol. Ive consistently found myself agreeing with your opinions on headphones. And we seem to have that same high sensitivity to peaky treble.

  • @datdudeinred
    @datdudeinred 3 года назад

    6:55 what is a FAN doing on your desk? Trippy 😂😂

  • @AndreasC81
    @AndreasC81 3 месяца назад

    This video make me realise that no matter how good something is, there is always someone who thinks it’s meh. You can’t please everyone.

  • @Mezelenja
    @Mezelenja 3 года назад +3

    audio is affordable but placebo is priceless

    • @annona718
      @annona718 3 года назад

      I hate to admit it. But there isn't. Like I take pride in my budget audio setup but like. It is outclassed to the extreme with hifi flagship headphones.

  • @Shabu10
    @Shabu10 3 года назад +9

    amogus referens???

  • @stevesnipes4160
    @stevesnipes4160 3 года назад

    Love you bro. Love all your videos. Love your Abyss headphones rreview. Just recently bought the Abyss Diana V2. Love it so much. MUCH LOVE AND SUCCESS TO YOU BRO. Thank you for all your knowledge in the headphone game.

  • @bimmer100timc
    @bimmer100timc 3 года назад +2

    Bass response is light? Huh... odd. I would never say that about these unless the amp was underpowered

    • @russb3n
      @russb3n 3 года назад +2

      Yeah I agree Tim I've seen people off of Headfi with a stock WA33 saying the Susvara's is boring and flat. I used a ton of AMPS above and non of them did it justice tell my WA33 Elite arrived and I can confirm that this is the very best I have listened to while owning all flag ships now. This headphone deserves high end gear around it Schiit or Topping DAC/AMPS will not cut it.

    • @bimmer100timc
      @bimmer100timc 3 года назад +1

      @@russb3n true! Topping can’t even come close to powering them.

    • @bimmer100timc
      @bimmer100timc 3 года назад +2

      @@russb3n I’ve been using the hpa4 and does well.
      The Ifi pro Ican I had before and was weak.. also overheated and clipped with Susvara. Sounded off. Bass light with all other headphone amps. Being a few dozen quality amps and half dozen being over 3K usd. The Susvara needs a proper amp to get a proper review. It’s really an incredible headphone. In all ways.

  • @R8Prototype
    @R8Prototype 3 года назад

    Very good review. I don't think I'll ever be in the market for these but the last takeaway about the sundara being the best in its price was very insightful as it's been out for a while now and i figured would have been beaten. I've been going back and forth between getting a sundara or the emotiva gr1

  • @ErfanElahi
    @ErfanElahi 3 года назад +1

    congrats on finally achieving the susvara :)

  • @ericliu8434
    @ericliu8434 3 года назад +21

    When the imposter is S U S - vara

    • @terraboom
      @terraboom 3 года назад +2

      I thought the exact same thing as soon as I saw this video my humour is so fucked

    • @r_se
      @r_se 3 года назад

      When the vara is sus!😳

  • @Scarbir
    @Scarbir 3 года назад +2

    It may sound great, but quality control issues, quite incompatible cables and near-impossible to drive-ness at this price... oof.

  • @hengli7372
    @hengli7372 3 года назад +2

    Susvara needs at least 8W+ per channel to power it. So A90 is not even close to actually power this up. But yeah, A90 can make it sound like a thing, and no one will really consider this match up as the end game pairing.

    • @Tacet137
      @Tacet137 3 года назад +1

      Ive heard them with a90 and didnt seem like there was any lack of power, on high gain with full 4V output from dac you could go insanely loud

    • @tomvu9353
      @tomvu9353 2 года назад

      @@Tacet137 They can get loud on alot of amplfiers but if you give them more power they punch harder and sound better its not about sounding loud. On weak amps they will sound loud but will not come alive. Its a planar thing.

  • @malek8736
    @malek8736 3 года назад +2

    The metal headband looks ridiculous.

    • @allydea
      @allydea 3 года назад

      But it's one of the most comfortable headphone designs. Wish my fav brands used it more.

  • @fastsnail3568
    @fastsnail3568 2 года назад

    Hope to see a review on just the DCS Lina amplifier and your take whether it is good to power Susvara nicely!

  • @AdonMrGveret
    @AdonMrGveret 3 года назад +3

    S U S

  • @omni6409
    @omni6409 3 года назад

    Thanks for the honest review.
    100% exactly how I felt when I heard it.

  • @RobinSylveoff
    @RobinSylveoff Год назад

    The Susvara was my favorite thing of CanJam London. It sounded exactly like what a headphone should sound. I can't say that about most other headphones, even if I enjoyed them

    • @soulfulfool
      @soulfulfool Год назад +1

      Hifiman company is great maybe the best in audio business just because building those probably is around 1k so on each pair they have 5k gain, thats amazing deal for them

    • @kiavaxxaskew
      @kiavaxxaskew Год назад

      ​@@soulfulfool true

    • @kiavaxxaskew
      @kiavaxxaskew Год назад

      ​@@soulfulfool you should also keep the facilitation in mind. The tools, testing, time, and people that go into building, designing and innovating. The price may be more justified than you think.

    • @soulfulfool
      @soulfulfool Год назад

      @@kiavaxxaskew yea but other brands got lower prices yet also using tools and human resources + ending up with better build quality, looks and great sound

  • @matthewweflen
    @matthewweflen 3 года назад +47

    So a bass-light snooze with quality control issues that requires a thousand dollar-plus amplifier. For 6 large. PASS.

    • @Tacet137
      @Tacet137 3 года назад

      If 7k is big deal for you, you are not the target consumer

    • @matthewweflen
      @matthewweflen 3 года назад

      @@Tacet137 I mean, I spent 2600 on my can/DAP/cable combo, but sure, whatever.

    • @albertxion513
      @albertxion513 3 года назад +1

      @@matthewweflen Think about the competition for the Susvara. Most of them need a high end amp, so you really aren't the target audience.

  • @dariobertagna9817
    @dariobertagna9817 3 года назад +1

    Joshua, any chance you will get to review final D8000 pro? I feel it’s probably the only flagship that you haven’t mentioned

  • @TubeYouDSilvy
    @TubeYouDSilvy 3 года назад +5

    Good review - but am I the only one getting a strong “no thanks” vibe from this set of cans?

  • @0dyss3us51
    @0dyss3us51 3 года назад +2

    Not sure why all ultra high end headphones have to make you look like a total dounce when you put them on, whats up with the square shape, hate it.

    • @omeee
      @omeee 3 года назад

      Comfort > looks. Open headphones are for quiet environments anways. So what is the point?