Audiophile Headphones: For Beginners!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • Open Back, Impedance, Distortion, Planar, GAH!!! So many phrases! Here's an easy beginner's guide through the confusing world of headphones. IF you are new, this is the video for you!
    Credits: Thanks everyone for helping.
    Tyler Channel - / tylerseclectic
    Eric W/ Abyss - abyss-headphon...
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  • @nzothemage2624
    @nzothemage2624 3 года назад +2566

    The best advice I can give to anyone starting this hobby:
    1. Audiophiles exaggerate slightest changes
    2. Be skeptical of those who overuse our terminology
    3. There is no headphone that is the best at everything
    4. Enjoy your time in budget & mid range budgets. Only go hi end once you’ve established your preferences
    5. Diminishing returns is real after ~$500 and especially past ~$1500

    • @qupeter1224
      @qupeter1224 2 года назад +147

      let’s be honest, above 1.3k studio monitor speaker is starting to beat even best in class headphones for around the same price. there are only so much a headphone can do with the size of their driver

    • @kedduff1814
      @kedduff1814 2 года назад +18

      @@qupeter1224 True

    • @crazyforcs
      @crazyforcs 2 года назад +14

      What do you think is the "best" headphone for female vocals and rock music? I'm having a though time finding an upgrade from my HD 6XX.

    • @mattstechchannel
      @mattstechchannel 2 года назад +11

      @@crazyforcs not a crazy knowledgeable person, but my guess is for the price range you really won’t find much better, but again it has SOOO much to do with personal opinion and style, regardless you do have a great headphone rn!

    • @tonamg53
      @tonamg53 2 года назад +42

      @@qupeter1224 Seriously for me I can hear a lot more details and nuances with headphones.
      I can hear a lot more new things and even change my thoughts on some of the songs when I upgraded to high end headphones stuff. It made me go through and listen to my entire music library again to hear what I may have missed out on before.
      With speakers you need to have the proper placement and room treatment to get a proper sound, then you have to sit in the right position and you have to be courtesy of your neighbours and people living with you…. It just too much hassle for me…

  • @shoaibchangezi
    @shoaibchangezi 3 года назад +1160

    The biggest problem of the Audiophiles, the cheaper headphones don't satisfy them, the expensive ones are out of their budget.

    • @gokzilla
      @gokzilla 2 года назад +98

      and they must be ugly.

    • @BubbafromSapperton
      @BubbafromSapperton Год назад +4

      YES! 🤗

    • @starchysgraveyardshift
      @starchysgraveyardshift Год назад +41

      @@gokzilla idk I think I’m pretty

    • @oPredicts_
      @oPredicts_ Год назад +3

      Not necessarily, a lot of iems and quit a few over ear headphones sound very good today.

    • @lazy_termite
      @lazy_termite Год назад +18

      @@starchysgraveyardshift you are not headphones tho

  • @ronaldwilson1424
    @ronaldwilson1424 3 года назад +435

    I've been an audiophile for 47 years. In my opinion, Eric gave the most holistic, all encompassing and accurate answers I have ever heard come from one person on the subject in such a short period of time.

    • @Robert-iu2ou
      @Robert-iu2ou 2 года назад +27

      As a newcomer to the hobby, i appreciate the confirmation, he sounded very knowledgable and properly succinct.

  • @JoshuaValour
    @JoshuaValour  3 года назад +552

    Enjoy the pizza.

    • @octagon_1211
      @octagon_1211 3 года назад +2

      ...the price is how much $ ? :D

    • @konna200
      @konna200 3 года назад +3

      I like this pizza very much but :D

    • @Charlitoz97
      @Charlitoz97 3 года назад +1

      T H O R O U G H. Very f*ckyng nice ! Does this video mean we'll get a full review of the HE400SE soon?

    • @konna200
      @konna200 3 года назад +3

      @@Charlitoz97 Maybe its the best all-arounder sub 300€ :D

    • @Hahnck750i
      @Hahnck750i 3 года назад +3

      This is made me decide what to eat tomorrow. Thanks.

  • @jekken333
    @jekken333 3 года назад +667

    This video will ruin a lot of bank accounts. 😂😂😂

    • @farawaythrower
      @farawaythrower 3 года назад +12

      Mine included.

    • @tranthien3932
      @tranthien3932 3 года назад +1

      mine did. Welp, time for more

    • @deminybs
      @deminybs 3 года назад +7

      This and fucktons of wagyu got my bank account super sad xD

    • @jSyndeoMusic
      @jSyndeoMusic 3 года назад +2

      I’m hesitant on whether or not I should even watch it. 🙃

    • @tonamg53
      @tonamg53 3 года назад +1

      My account was already ruined before watching this.
      Now, I’m ruining my accounts in the future 🥲

  • @rossgoosen7269
    @rossgoosen7269 3 года назад +1263

    Me, a long time audiophile: i n t e r e s t i n g

  • @kuanwang9107
    @kuanwang9107 3 года назад +753

    We audiophiles need to put you and dankpods together
    Let dankpods lure the outsiders in and then you begin lecturing them 😂

    • @NewChiqueChloe
      @NewChiqueChloe 3 года назад +155

      The algorithm has already linked them. I speak from experience

    • @amateuraudiophile9608
      @amateuraudiophile9608 3 года назад +2

      And I was thinking the same thing

    • @ghilmanfaza2273
      @ghilmanfaza2273 3 года назад +31

      I actually knew this channel from watching Dankpods. Dank really pulls me to audiophile while Josh taught me a lot

    • @De_La_Soto
      @De_La_Soto 3 года назад +9

      The crossover we want AND need

    • @1337FoxTrot
      @1337FoxTrot 3 года назад +4

      This was actually how it happened for me. Never an audiophile, but after watching Dankpods for a week I am starting to learn a lot from these two channels.

  • @samarthbhat7889
    @samarthbhat7889 3 года назад +736

    the video quality and editing is top notch, looks professionally filmed and edited (atleast to the common eye) , highly underrated channel !

    • @RR-ok4wz
      @RR-ok4wz 3 года назад +3

      agreed. easily one of my favorite channels

    • @MattWeser
      @MattWeser 3 года назад +14

      The audio quality was quite good too for some reason 🤔

    • @debsattam1
      @debsattam1 3 года назад +3

      Underrated I don't think so we audiophile's are low in number .

    • @pepinocabron
      @pepinocabron Год назад +1

      Ok

  • @SteelyDanUnofficial
    @SteelyDanUnofficial 3 года назад +85

    This should have been 100k special, very interesting video.

    • @bruhhurb8676
      @bruhhurb8676 3 года назад +1

      It’s honestly surprising that he still has less than a million subs.

  • @damonreynolds6775
    @damonreynolds6775 3 года назад +160

    Audiophiles' idea of purgatory - any typical live concert
    Audiophiles' idea of hell - a faithful recording of that concert

  • @axeldeeker5644
    @axeldeeker5644 3 года назад +301

    The interview was super interesting!

    • @hardrockSaurabh
      @hardrockSaurabh 3 года назад +3

      Check out Abyss Headphones YT Channel as well they talk a lot more in depth about sound in General

    • @karthikvDivakaran
      @karthikvDivakaran 3 года назад +3

      floppa do be an audiophile

  • @wescx
    @wescx 3 года назад +253

    Just discovered this channel a few weeks ago and really enjoying it. I've been listening to the same pair of Sennheiser HD595s plugged straight into my computer for the last ~12 years. I've finally decided it's time for a real setup, so I'm having a ton of fun over-researching the decision.

    • @MrXperx
      @MrXperx 3 года назад +31

      Most of the fun is in the researching.

    • @Troint
      @Troint 3 года назад +23

      Did you come to a conclusion lol

    • @wescx
      @wescx Год назад +15

      ​@@no.one.2 ​ @Jason I started off small with an ifi hip dac and the hifiman 4XX. I really liked the 4XX but they were a bit uncomfortable and the band snapped after 6 months.
      Then I bought the Sennheiser 6xx because I knew they would never break.
      Then I bought a pair of DT770's because I wanted more low end and had a need for closed backs sometimes.
      Then I bought a pair of Hifiman Edition XS.
      Then I upgraded the hip dac to the ifi zen dac.
      Lots happened in a year, lol.

  • @swchew3344
    @swchew3344 3 года назад +134

    Thanks for making this vid! This is a godsend for anyone getting into audio. Wish there was someone to guide me like this when I was beginning my journey haha. Appreciate it!

    • @eruilluvitar
      @eruilluvitar 3 года назад +5

      Agreed!! This kind of content is oddly sparse in the audio space and would have been super helpful earlier on in my audiophile journey.

  • @OkieDokieSmokie
    @OkieDokieSmokie 3 года назад +17

    I love the delivery on "the price is ____"
    He sounds so matter of fact about it that I just know my wallet is imploding.

    • @AndGuz16
      @AndGuz16 2 года назад

      Haha 😂 ^ this

  • @Kayose
    @Kayose 3 года назад +8

    The little end card about DMS is like giving him the bird but also saying “love you tho”. ❤️❤️

  • @DaPunkNdFunk
    @DaPunkNdFunk 3 года назад +103

    This is the most clear, straight forward, honest and interesting introduction to hi-fi here on RUclips! Go Joshua! :D

  • @coke2679
    @coke2679 2 года назад +17

    For me comfort has turned out to be the most important factor when choosing a headphone. I use them for 4-10h a day and would take a comfortable but bad sounding headphone over a good, uncomfortable one in a heartbeat.

    • @gokzilla
      @gokzilla 2 года назад +2

      exactly. Iam 46 the the most important factor is for me the comfort and than the Sound Quality.

    • @OhWanya
      @OhWanya Год назад

      What would you propose that can tcheck both boxes???

    • @objectaa
      @objectaa Год назад

      I'd say X2HR, maybe they are heavier but the comfort is awesome@@OhWanya

    • @OhWanya
      @OhWanya Год назад

      @@objectaa !!! Thanks for an answer! I’ll look into it, by the time you answer I bought some senheiser and I was scared to use them outside lol! I don’t have a dac , my laptop being Apple was made with high ohms in mind but not my phones! The Philips might solve my issue!

  • @abc123s100
    @abc123s100 3 года назад +9

    Thank you DMS, for whatever it is that you do

    • @DieterKoert
      @DieterKoert 3 года назад +1

      Is this a running joke for some time now? NO ONE being able to say what DMS does exactly...

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV 3 года назад +8

      @@DieterKoert honestly I don't even know what I do at this point.

    • @shahmirkhan5373
      @shahmirkhan5373 3 года назад +2

      @@DMS3TV Thank you Z Reviews, for whatever it is that you do

  • @RamimAhmedTV
    @RamimAhmedTV 3 года назад +230

    I could listen to Eric and you talk about this stuff for hours and hours and wouldn't get bored.

  • @loggue9193
    @loggue9193 Год назад +1

    I'm not an audiophile, i do however believe that the guys who centre their hobbys around headphones probably have the best headphone recommendations which is why i'm here.

  • @Pplwithnoname
    @Pplwithnoname 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for this. There has been many audiophile videos that i wanted to share with close friends but was afraid they wouldnt understand. This is a great bridge to the average music listener.

  • @Ice707Cold
    @Ice707Cold Год назад +2

    You had me at the ‘Pizza Factor” line, I said thats it I gotta push the like button.
    Your remarkable effort to explain all details big and small about headphones in such simplified ways (pizza factor as an example) to very basic consumer like myself is a gift from God
    So the least I could say is “thank you” for all the effort and time spent on this video

  • @matthewhilty4209
    @matthewhilty4209 3 года назад +12

    I can see why Josh did not mention the Modhouse Argon. It has attributes of all 3 categories and even confuses me an intermediate user. I have "better" headphones but the Argon still stands strong in my listening rotation.

  • @vstudart
    @vstudart 3 года назад +1

    I'm begginer and my first audiophile headphone is the Sivga Phoenix and I couldn't be happier. My favorite genre is funk and also love to listen to some studio groove sessions...
    This headphone was made for me. :)

  • @fabiokelm
    @fabiokelm 3 года назад +7

    I'm surprised the K361 wasn't in Level 1, as a closed-back option. Actually, no closed backs here seems kind of a problem.
    That said, I like the idea overall. I agree with a lot of the points and think this seems a good beginners guide.

    • @adrianflo6481
      @adrianflo6481 2 года назад

      For beginners its much better to take the risk of getting a pair of open backs. It in my opinion a much better representation of what real headphones can do for music.
      Then you can start to finetune your sound and use case. But every audiophile own open headphones for a reason.

  • @terhohalme
    @terhohalme Год назад +1

    Great video, Josh. Just a little misunderstanding many reviewers do. Higher impedance headphones need more VOLTAGE, not power. The mobile devices drive typically low voltage output (1-2 Vrms) and it is not enough for high impedance low efficiency drives.

  • @jaydenwang3896
    @jaydenwang3896 2 года назад +3

    Josh: "Cause its usually a lot of companies sucking their own"
    me: finish your sentence please.

  • @AzzurroWolf
    @AzzurroWolf 3 года назад +2

    Joshua, this content is excellent. From someone who has always dabbled in the "audiophile" life, I find this incredibly helpful as I've never really known where to start properly. Thank you but damn you for re-igniting an expensive hobby :)

  • @topspin4hand
    @topspin4hand 3 года назад +7

    Josh! Great video. An amazing intro for those starting out. One thing that might be important to note is that planar magnetic headphones require a ton of power too, despite their low impedance. It's just that need more current rather than the greater voltage that dynamic headphones require.

  • @derrickcrocker4265
    @derrickcrocker4265 3 года назад +2

    This is one of the best videos to help me with headphones I've seen so far. Thanks!

  • @Sir_Bini
    @Sir_Bini 3 года назад +52

    Honestly, this is a must-watch video for anyone even slightly interested in audio. But it's also a great refresher to those who are chin-deep into the audiophile world to pull them back a bit and appreciate their world and equipment therein. Well-balanced content, well-put and overall amazingly well-made video. Never thought of myself as an audiophile but I found myself somewhere between Levels 2 and 3, at least from a technical knowledge perspective. Quite an interesting personal revelation, tbh.

  • @ShawnPitman
    @ShawnPitman 3 года назад +1

    Always bugs me when people say things like "the ohms" (6:42). "Ohm" is the unit of measure. Like how "miles per hours" is the unit for speed in a car, or "degrees" is the unit of temperature for an oven. Or "pounds" for your weight.
    No one would ask "what are the miles per hour you are going?", they'd ask "what speed are you going?" And no one would ask "what are the degrees of the oven?", they'd ask "how hot is the oven?" And definitely no one would ask "what pounds are you?", they'd ask "how much do you weigh?"
    mph -> speed
    temperature -> degrees
    weight -> pounds
    impedance -> ohms
    Thanks, done... I'll finish being OCD over there.

  • @ThatGuy-rp1ly
    @ThatGuy-rp1ly 3 года назад +29

    This was so easy/enjoyable to watch, and for a 30 min video about stuff I've already heard, that says a lot about the quality of your stuff. Keep it up man.

  • @timgrewe9644
    @timgrewe9644 3 года назад +1

    Your production quality blows me away with every video. Absolutely insane that you’re still under 100k!

  • @Andrew-zx9wx
    @Andrew-zx9wx 3 года назад +13

    This dude has me hooked on audio gear now. Dang my wife’s gonna hate me.

  • @Edwinvangent
    @Edwinvangent 3 года назад +1

    one of your very best video's of the last few years, very informative, complete, focused, and recognizable for the ongoing beginner. way the go !

  • @sihwanchang3062
    @sihwanchang3062 3 года назад +44

    Level 1 0:43
    Level 2 5:00
    Level 3 16:24

  • @payola5000
    @payola5000 3 года назад

    The audio quality of this video speaks for itself. I mean, I want to repeat it when I get those HE 9600S, which were the only ones on my budget lol

  • @jeremyquiros5483
    @jeremyquiros5483 3 года назад +3

    I would've laughed if Eric recommended an Abyss headphone for a beginner's first set 😂

  • @fritolaid6805
    @fritolaid6805 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video! I spend a lot of time on reddits audiophile subreddit and this helped introduce me to some solid basics in selecting quality headphones.

  • @nickpelayo3172
    @nickpelayo3172 3 года назад +14

    i like how the abyss rep really dodges the question about other headphones they like.

    • @robinkleinsteuber5217
      @robinkleinsteuber5217 2 месяца назад +1

      ... and hopefully, you didn't expect an answer? Of course, he couldn't if he wants to keep his job. 😮

  • @fritzlool
    @fritzlool 3 года назад +2

    Great stuff Josh, and as always superb editing & presentation! 10/10

    • @fritzlool
      @fritzlool 3 года назад

      ***READ THIS JOSH*** The patreon link in your Social Media section isn't working dude :) if you have fixed please ignore me

  • @yegorgagarinov9721
    @yegorgagarinov9721 3 года назад +6

    Your video making skills reaching insane level. So precise audio transitions with visuals always hit a spot.
    p.s.
    this summer will have exact your Arya setup. Thanks for all your work.

  • @j.d.4697
    @j.d.4697 2 года назад +1

    IMO you should have mentioned that headphones with 100+ SPL can still cause sound compression that really drags down the sound, without a DAC/amp.

  • @JogieGlenMait16
    @JogieGlenMait16 3 года назад +20

    Been a subscriber on the Abyss' RUclips channel. They talk some high level stuff that you can't get elsewhere.

    • @ulqi
      @ulqi 3 года назад

      Yes you can, you just have to look for it.

    • @colingordon0986
      @colingordon0986 2 года назад

      Yeah if you wanna pay $3,000 to 5,000 for a pair of headphones

  • @Slashimi
    @Slashimi 3 года назад

    Gonna be completely honest, I hit the like button before I watched because I already knew the vid was gonna be fire :D

  • @yariban9735
    @yariban9735 3 года назад +12

    Awesome video.
    Favorite line LOL: "Idk what he does, but thanks"

  • @demonicpowerz4782
    @demonicpowerz4782 2 года назад

    This is actually one of the coolest videos i’ve seen, like ever. From the theme and sound of the transitions, to the very accessible information, everthing was perfect. I am a huge petrolhead, to the point i could cry seeing (and hearing, heh) some (many) of my dream cars, but in the end they are just cars. It is quite projectable to the audio world, because music can be emotionally very moving, especially hearing it in its purest form. In the end we are all just trying to apprechiate the beauty of music and forget all the gear. Also the filming was excellent in your video!
    Maybe i should get into filming aswell..
    Thank you!

  • @AJL713
    @AJL713 3 года назад +16

    I loved this video, and really enjoyed the collaboration with DMS and Abyss. Just really cool overall :)

  • @gavin5861
    @gavin5861 2 года назад

    When he said the 99s stood out to him I immediately looked at my Neo 99s and went hell yeah and then shared this to my friend with the 99 classics

  • @carlweeks2399
    @carlweeks2399 3 года назад +22

    I got my friends hd 600s because they weren’t
    “Bassy” enough
    Brand new,
    nothing wrong with them
    And that’s how I got into the audiophile hobby

    • @lukeprenelle332
      @lukeprenelle332 3 года назад +7

      Hur dur six hunjos

    • @jimbo-tq1rr
      @jimbo-tq1rr 3 года назад +4

      @@lukeprenelle332 head-p-hone-es

    • @metroplexprime9901
      @metroplexprime9901 3 года назад +3

      @@lukeprenelle332 From ol' mate senny

    • @rene837
      @rene837 3 года назад

      Loss for your friend I'd say. Even though HD600 sub bass is quite bad, mid bass however is very present.

  • @523motorsports
    @523motorsports 10 месяцев назад +2

    I just want good quality headphones to listen to my favorite music.

  • @innerworth
    @innerworth 2 года назад +6

    It’s nice to see the hi-fi audio market developing again after 20 years of putting up with crappy sources like mp3 and the gear around it.

  • @netzbandit
    @netzbandit 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the interesting video. In a follow up video, I‘d like to know something about IEMs and why many headphone enthusiasts like them so much.

  • @mrmrgaming
    @mrmrgaming 2 года назад +5

    Step 1. Find Your 10 favourite songs. Ideally, they should be a mixture of styles. Rock/pop/classical and so on. Songs that you know inside and out. Put them on a USB or CD in the highest quality you can.
    Step 2. Find a store that will allow you to try headphones using your music. Explain what you wish to do.
    Step 3. Budget. How much are you willing to spend? Do you have a good sound system? Would you buy headphones and then perhaps want to upgrade your sound system? If you have a good sound system and have no plans to upgrade, all your budget can go on your headphones, but if your system is lacking, you might want to ease off on the headphone price so you can upgrade your system.
    Step 4. Try to test the headphones on a system close to what you have (unless you are going to upgrade in the future) There is no point testing headphones on a 20K setup if you are going home to a system that cost you $500. It's not going to sound the same.
    Step 5. If you listen to a lot of headphones, make a shortlist and go back the next day or a few days later. If you keep swapping dozens of times, your ears will get messed up and you will doubt yourself or start hearing things that are not there. Basically, a sensory overload.
    Step 6. Ask questions. If the shop/salesperson is good at what they do, they should be willing to answer questions and give you good advice. Don't rush it, some headphones are not cheap and the last thing you want is to buy on impulse or because a sales person wants their %.

    • @nightmer420
      @nightmer420 2 года назад

      the dt 1990 pro with a 200€ apmply is good? what you recomend my for them?

    • @mrmrgaming
      @mrmrgaming 2 года назад +1

      @@nightmer420 Sadly it's not easy. 1st you need a headphone you like price wise/build/reviews/try it. Then you need to google "good amp for DT 1990 pro"
      Again, you need to see what people say and the prices. Amps can change your headphones for the better and for the worse. Some work well together and some don't.
      Luckily there are 10.000s people who have already bought lots of stuff and written about it online, so whichever headphones you set your heart on, there will be a lot of people who have already done what you are about to.
      Ideally, try to buy/try the headphones you want from someplace so you can try them out together......or Amazon...try...send back :-). If you do the Amazon thing, find three amps, try them out (better to do when all there so you can swap from one to the other) Keep the best and return the other two for a refund.
      Also bear in mind that some amps are just amps, whereas some come with built-in DACs. The DAC inside will also play a part in the sound, that's why trying two or three will help.

    • @nightmer420
      @nightmer420 2 года назад +1

      @@mrmrgaming thx for respondin i will see what people use with the dt 1990 pro

    • @mrmrgaming
      @mrmrgaming 2 года назад +1

      @@nightmer420 Remember if you are paying out to hear a big change in your music, forget MP3 files. You need FLAC files. Though it's not available with every song, try to find 24bit files (16bit is the norm) as they do sound even better.

  • @SUV2949
    @SUV2949 3 года назад

    Just begin the aventure with the Sundara 👌🏼 Many thanks for your advice and your work !

    • @SUV2949
      @SUV2949 3 года назад

      With the sundara , the A90, the moondrop Aria and the T2.. It goes fast 😳

  • @siddeshsarma3265
    @siddeshsarma3265 3 года назад +9

    This was one of the most comprehensive and detailed explanation without BS and needless 'product pushing'. Really appreciate the effort to put all this together. As a beginner and head-fi lurker I have known the basics but for the first time I have seen it being put so succinctly and simply, yet in a way that's not watered down TOO much. Great balance. Love your style.
    I have a quick quick query. I have been eyeing the Elex for over a year now, and this video just convinced me to go for it. Wanted to know which bluetooth enabled Dac Amp would you recommend for it? So far it's between:
    1. ifi Neo DSD
    2. Topping DX7 pro (I can use the extra headphone output there matching what's provided with the Elex - but no MQA). Will the high output impedance that some people mention, adversely affect the Elex? IS missing out on MQA That bad?
    3. ifi xDSD (everything about this sounds great, except lack of balanced output?)
    @joshua Please do help me out. Am i missing something in my research? Or will any of these be just perfectly fine? I'm definitely sure I want bluetooth and a combo, not separate dac / amp. Thanks in advance for your help!

    • @adrianflo6481
      @adrianflo6481 2 года назад +1

      I dont think ive seen a single youtube video pushing products from any audiophile. I find most of them to be generally down to earth
      critiques the other hand, completely different story.

  • @SparkFromWithin
    @SparkFromWithin 3 года назад

    I have been watching and following you channel for a while now, and I have had to google many of the terms you use.
    So I am thankful that you finally made this, so I can share it with my friends, and I still managed to learn quite a bit myself.

  • @austin.t5557
    @austin.t5557 3 года назад +5

    Eric was 100% spot on with his opening statement. As a IT professional, like most my co-workers had all been audiofile guys and they baked me into the AF oven. I think its honestly about learning what kind of sound your looking for from a headphone first before "claiming" the best. I now have about 18 sets.
    Some of my tops are HD600, HD598cs, M1060, VM 100CM, HarmonicDyne Zeus. Right now my fav....is so funny Koss KPH30iCL with the Grado pads......like a WTF probably the most comfy headphones on the planet. The Headphones next on my list to purchase MDR-Z1R and TH900.....
    After trying so many headphones ( this is just the list of top headphones I own and want, I have tried many more ) I know what sound I like out of headphones and what sounds don't interest me. So when presented "the best" headphones I under stand audio quality is very subjective and its not your job to convince others how they hear is wrong its just different.
    Great video! will pass this around for sure.

  • @knorrissirronk8665
    @knorrissirronk8665 3 года назад

    Josh - First: I have to credit you for having the humility to be up-front on your self-awareness. Many would have tried to tackle "expert" themselves. I'm not sure it would have occurred to me to interview an industry leader, and might have tried to "muddle through" it myself based on what I've learned from others, so a COMPLETE "hats off" to you! Second: Great overview. Well produced, and easy to digest for multiple levels of audio confidence in your audience. Well-done!

  • @zethiel
    @zethiel 3 года назад +6

    Really looking forward to the IEM version of this :P

  • @mast8536
    @mast8536 3 года назад +1

    Consider adding segmented chapters to the scrub bar. And why little to no mention of dacs?

  • @ThatGuy-rp1ly
    @ThatGuy-rp1ly 3 года назад +6

    Haha that shoutout to DMS in the credits cracked me up. Wish I could like this video twice

  • @peell4713
    @peell4713 2 года назад

    Great vid, love the attention to detail and thoroughness

  • @amargnwalkr
    @amargnwalkr 3 года назад +4

    In the context of that last question to Eric, you should have asked him about those $2000 cables.

  • @ismael5310
    @ismael5310 3 года назад

    One of the greatest video of your channel !!! So informative

  • @Icy233
    @Icy233 3 года назад +30

    Very well put together video Josh! Was a pretty interesting watch even for non-beginner audiophiles. I'd be happy if you could put together a similar video for level 1-3 DACs, AMPs, and combos of both! I feel like that's a more difficult topic to get into for new people once they go past the headphone selection.

  • @cheeze6850
    @cheeze6850 3 года назад +1

    i did NOT expect the price to be that high

    • @nqxo9829
      @nqxo9829 3 года назад

      Level 1: 100$ too much for some peasant

  • @AJL713
    @AJL713 3 года назад +6

    Can we give some props to Tyler. Between him and Josh they make amazing looking videos

  • @jeffreydheere4737
    @jeffreydheere4737 2 года назад

    Just bought a set of Sennheiser PC 38X, my first 'high end' headphones other than Sony WF-1000XM4 earbuds. Not sure I'm all that happy with them. I mainly got them for online meetings but was hoping to use them as a regular music listening headphone. They just aren't very comfortable - they're a very tight fit and squeeze my head, pushing my ear lobes tight to my jawline. I found the sound to be pretty flat - nothing really exciting. Now, I will say most of my music is audio rips from RUclips videos with Any Video Converter so I imagine the range isn't really there to make a difference.

  • @chriscowolfmann
    @chriscowolfmann 3 года назад +4

    Glad to see Eric from ABYSS on this one! If you haven't already, check out their channel. Super in-depth discussions about all things audio. And some not (see refrigerator review)

  • @raer5373
    @raer5373 3 года назад +1

    As an audiophile myself I recommend Skullcandy Crusher EVO.

  • @davidjohn_va
    @davidjohn_va 3 года назад +6

    I have the SHP9500, should've waited around a little longer for the 600's, but still..I think the 500's do deserve a spot on the list of beginner headphones.

    • @Syahburei
      @Syahburei Год назад

      First time diving into headphones, are the SHP9500 good?

    • @davidjohn_va
      @davidjohn_va Год назад

      @@Syahburei yeah they're great! 3 years no issues. Although, if you have big ears like mine. I'd suggest replacing the thin stock pads for some cheap thick third party pads. Replacing them is as easy has snapping the stock ones off and snapping the new ones on.

  • @ncf1
    @ncf1 Год назад +2

    I've found that if I take a whole lot of drugs everything sounds pretty damn good. Has saved me thousands!

  • @herbieburbie
    @herbieburbie 2 года назад +3

    My dad finally gave me his vintage mint 1988 kenwood stack setup that I've always wanted. He gave me a Sennheiser headphone set along with it. At first I just assumed he ordered them for 15$ from a grandpa magazine but once I put them on and tried them out I knew they weren't junk and actually were quality headphones. Now I'm over here getting educated on audiophile.

  • @Etency
    @Etency 2 года назад +1

    59 000 dollars?! I had to re-listen 3 times to make sure I heard that a pair of headphones and some amp will cost more than a new car.

  • @XimGama
    @XimGama 3 года назад +5

    Wow, Eric for full PR representation, he just have the "know how" and talk skills. Thanks for this Joshua.

  • @celiapadre1851
    @celiapadre1851 2 года назад +1

    Audiophiles for beginners are called Sennheiser HE1

  • @duppy666.
    @duppy666. 3 года назад +6

    Awesome vid! Especially the interview with Eric. 👍

  • @RetroPlus
    @RetroPlus 3 года назад +1

    I like having good audio quality but i also like having money and those things don't really mix well

  • @ShortThrowShifting
    @ShortThrowShifting 3 года назад +12

    I'm new to the audiophile hobby myself, but I've owned almost 10 different headsets ranging from $100 to over $300. The single *biggest* lesson I've learned is that a $300 gaming headset is nowhere near the same as $300 headphones. The switch from closed to open was also a massive difference. I recently switched from the Logitech G Pro X to Audio Technicia ATH-ADG1X paired to a SoundblasterX G6. I've spent the last few months re-experiencing games and music and the difference in soundstage, detail and cleanliness is insane. I've got the Phillips X2HR/00 on order now and I'm really excited to hear the difference between my current AT's and the Phillips. Overall, my gaming and listening experience has completely changed in general and I'm hooked. It's definitely an experience that needs to be heard to be believed.

    • @ThunderDraws
      @ThunderDraws 2 года назад

      how did you like the x2hr? mine are arriving tomorrow

    • @ShortThrowShifting
      @ShortThrowShifting 2 года назад

      @@ThunderDraws They're absolutely my favorite headphones I've ever had. I paired mine with a set of Elite Velour replacement earpads from Dekoni and it really set them off!

    • @noabinnendijk361
      @noabinnendijk361 2 года назад

      I picked up studio headphones I had lying around since I got them as a gift, never used them before because I thought for some reason they'd be worse than my current headphones--and it *completely* changed my listening experience. I've been freaking out about music for the past few months. I want more of this

  • @YesIAmDavid
    @YesIAmDavid Год назад +2

    I hate being termed an “audiophile” by friends and family but:
    This video is great, really informative and chill.
    My biggest advice: slowly build up your audio, don’t go around spending 500 dollars immediately because you heard a pair is good. Also don’t mess around with DACs at the start, and don’t buy an amp unless you really need to, up to about 80ohms and in most cases, any laptop could run the headphones well.

  • @sivasaiabhiram8767
    @sivasaiabhiram8767 3 года назад +8

    Abyss who sells $2000 "superconducter" cables is talking about deception in the industry lmfao

    • @greymatterstome
      @greymatterstome 3 года назад

      I'm not sure I had as much issue with that as the "earpad differences are not as important as people think" that is fundamentally untrue. It's perhaps one of the things a beginning audiophile can look at early and hear for themselves the difference.

  • @adrianinnavan3910
    @adrianinnavan3910 3 года назад

    And I can't believe you didn't recommend a set of Grado headphones. I know they're not everyone's cup of tea but they provide a really entertaining unique sound.

  • @jackiegu5622
    @jackiegu5622 3 года назад +5

    Hey Josh, thank you for sharing your knowledge, I have always wondered if there is any difference between an audio interface and DAC/amp. I know that the audio interface definitely does the job of an DAC, but what about amplification? My apogee duet seems to easily drive my 250ohm Beyerdynamic. According to my Major requirement, I will need to buy an even better one in the future which makes me wonder if there is a need for me to buy amps and DACs that's specifically for "hifi"

  • @Theredeemedchild2
    @Theredeemedchild2 3 года назад +1

    Man, I didn't understand any of this. I don't understand what distortion sounds like. Treat me as a baby and teach me everything with examples.

    • @Blase-u4f
      @Blase-u4f 6 месяцев назад

      The simplest way to define distortion is a change in the sound from the source(or recording). Blurriness, lack of clarity, and unwanted additional sounds that aren't supposed to be there. The opposite of clean, clear, and detailed.

  • @Gleyveon
    @Gleyveon 3 года назад +3

    So I got a budget of about $80-$140 and plan on using the headphone primarily for Gaming and Listening music. I plan on using it for at least 6 hour sessions, so it has to be quite comfortable.
    I'm currently looking at the Philips SHP9600, because open back sounds quite appealing from what I've read.

    • @nqxo9829
      @nqxo9829 3 года назад

      I want to try some superluxes, my latest headphones were noga, imagine

    • @darknightmike10yearsago
      @darknightmike10yearsago 2 года назад

      I own Phillips SHP 9600 headphones. I would say go for the SHP 9500 because it is much better value and has a more balanced sound signature, unless you prefer more bass.

  • @jodeco
    @jodeco 3 года назад +1

    This is awesome, I hope this helps people get into this hobby more easily!

  • @RafaelHEscobar
    @RafaelHEscobar 3 года назад +3

    *Thanks for the video!*
    It reminds me about how I began my Hi-Fi journey by using cheap headphones that were pluged 90% of the times to my phone or laptop. Then I got bored of those because of their poor quality and decided to buy a pair of the cheapest Sennheiser that I could find (HD 206), and a year and half later I got another pair also from Sennheiser; this time were the HD 559 with open back that I'm keeping for at least 5 years after trying products from Grado, Harman/Kardon, Marshall, Sony and Bowers & Wilkins. After that period of time we'll see what comes next...
    It amazes me how incredible the sound experience became after getting the HD559, that in the beginning I had to put them off to hear if my speakers were active, and now I'm more than conscious about why _(if you love good sound and music)_ should invest in quality instead of quantity.

  • @MaximusPrimusKay
    @MaximusPrimusKay 3 года назад

    This was awesome.
    Informative, entertaining and just pleasant to listen to.

  • @groundedgameplayx
    @groundedgameplayx 3 года назад +3

    I really love Audio Technica headphones for the price. AD900X (my fav low-impedance open-back neutral reference, also amazing for gaming), MSR7, M50X-BT (excellent wireless headphones I bring with me anywhere I don't want to take the aforementioned models) are all incredible, especially for the value. My dream headphones would be the ADX5000, I'm still not sure I could ever bring myself to spend two grand on headphones, but if so then I'd buy those.

  • @wow_parzival5036
    @wow_parzival5036 Год назад

    Thanks for making this video. I was interested in the headphones you were mentioning, but when you say their names, could you put that text on screen so it's seen? The subtitles aren't perfect. Thanks

  • @hahagager
    @hahagager 3 года назад +3

    Idk what dms does but thanks lmao

  • @Christopher._M
    @Christopher._M 2 года назад +1

    You really meant it when you said entry level, mid range, and high end.
    I thought entry was going to be around 50-150. Mid around 250-700. High end 1000-1800

  • @allain-jonnxumayo6261
    @allain-jonnxumayo6261 3 года назад +5

    I needed this, thank you.

  • @chetjohnson6283
    @chetjohnson6283 3 года назад +1

    where the hell do you find pizza with sugary cheese

  • @mproyuclan
    @mproyuclan 3 года назад +7

    Really excellent intro. You covered so much in such a clear and fun way!!!

  • @davidmartin4263
    @davidmartin4263 2 года назад +2

    As an amateur looking to introduce myself into the audiophile realm, I really appreciate this video. Thank you. How do you feel about the Sennheiser 560S?

  • @BwanaJesuasifiwe
    @BwanaJesuasifiwe 3 года назад +5

    LOL you ask an abyss guy selling thousand dollar cables what's misleading in audio. and he says its the measurements! what a Joke

  • @goblinphreak2132
    @goblinphreak2132 3 года назад

    Audiophile generally mean "no bass". Literally, they all have severe roll off around 100hz and decline so much that you get no bass response. And if you try to EQ bass back into most "audiophile" headphones, you end up with mechanical noise because the speaker can't handle it.
    HIFIMAN Sundara. Not bad, NEEDS EQ to sound proper. Firstly you gotten drop the 8khz range by like 8db. Its way too sharp. For me, dropping about 6db cured it and make that bump neutral which is what you want, flat eq curves and all. And then for bass, yes it has bass, but still not a lot because its open back. Luckily, you can add the bass back in and get it to true neutral. A few DB at 32hz and 60hz does the trick. And then its relatively flat EQ response.
    Sony MDR-1AM2 are pretty neutral flat from design. Which in my opinion are the best for those using portable music players and cellphones, as you don't need huge power to drive them like the Sundara's.....
    And then, the Sony MDR-Z7M2. Fucking bliss. Much better than the 1AM2 in terms of treble and overall response. STILL has neutral bass. Just lovely sound signature. But, needs more power to drive, similar to how the Sundara's are hard to drive.
    These would be my ONLY recommendation for those looking to get into headphones. The first two can be found for about $300 and the Z7M2 for $600.... I wont touch most other brands, I mean I have, but I wont recommend them or use them ever again. They just lack in sound quality. The whole point of wanting pure audio is to have a flat eq response. But sadly, most Audiophile headphones especially in the upper price range, have NO BASS. And they usually have ear blistering high's which is great for people going deaf, but not for those of us with normal hearing.... Sennheiser. I have owned pairs ranging from 60 bucks to 300 bucks. They all suck. Sure, they are spacy, give a good "sound stage" but NO BASS. Funny enough, my brother bought their $1600 HD800s Reference.... and sure enough, they actually had proper neutral bass. Blows me away that for THAT company, you have to spend that much for neutral bass, when you could just buy much cheaper Sony products.
    Also a note for those reading this, headphones have flavors. Most audiophile headphones cater to old people who "turn that damn bass down" even though its set to a neutral level. I don't understand why they would gimp their music. Because no bass means not hearing the detail the person who created the music, wants you to hear. Some headphones are good for vocals, some are V shape where you have a lot of bass, no mid range, and a lot of treble (beats by dr. dre for example). Then you have Sony Extra-bass which are horrible, sure they have head shaking bass but the bass is so harsh that you lose your treble completely thus losing detail and music sounding dull, but I wouldn't recommend those extra-bass headphones either.

    • @doodoobutter4406
      @doodoobutter4406 3 года назад

      th-x00 purpleheart owner and dt 770 80 ohm sheepskin pads, bass is essential. i want a pair of planar headphones but see couple reviews saying sundara lacks some for hiphop... i keep thinking i gotta spend huge bucks for a lcd2/lcd-x for the bass in a planar i want.