Kinda depends on use. For a daily driver, you'd be hard pressed to beat something like the Taycan. But for a fun driving experience, road trip through the back country or for an occasional track day Turbo all the way. Or just what Alistair said and go GT3/4.
Bavarian Car Enthusiast if you make that argument, why buy a 4S when for much less you could have a standard 4? Or why not just a standard Carrera, or 718?
@@ALMX5DP yes I cannot deny you have a strong argument here. - but - the 4s is already on such a high level, the turbo S is not significant step up. In the historic 911 time it was a different car, the gap was enormous.
I like the ending statement. A Turbo S buyer is exactly the type of person who wants to be recognized only by those that truly know the capabilities of what they are driving. No flashy, hypercar looks to draw the attention. Just the respect of those people who wouldn't dare challenge this car to a drag race. I quite like that about this car.
L.J Ross I guess it depends on where you live. I live in the UK and 911's are everywhere. To many people this Turbo S would just be another 911. A McLaren or Lambo would get much more attention.
Half of the video was him shitting on Turbo S buyers. What's wrong with having enough money to buy what you like? The engineering improvements are a big selling point to buyers, he makes it sound like only "rich people" buy this car and don't enjoy it for what it is.
A shame about all the negative comments about the super rich plus the ‘more money than talent’ stuff. Good understanding of the importance of compliance a bit of knowledge on the history of the Turbo. I have owned every variant of 911 except GT2 and have concluded that the Turbo and Turbo S are the best. What a 911 really needs is low end torque which so lacking in the naturally aspirated ones. Anyway, no more from me, super-rich git that I am apparently ...mind you I have extensively rallied 911s and currently own 8 of them.
What I love about this car is the power the luxury the tech and the performance all in one and no sacrifices, It’s the ultimate grand touring sports car. I understand wanting the gt3 but you sacrifice comfort for performance but this there is no sacrificing
Love Edmund's and most all Porsche. Like the reviewer here and the over all feel of the review. But, there was not enough about performance. Not even a lunch via launch control? You don't need a test track to have your head snapped back against the turbo S logo on the head rest. You could have compared the Porsche given specs to the R8 or whatever competition you feel this car has. And plenty of magazines test cars without a test track. There are such things as tape measures and stop watches... there are accelerators you can load on your phone. More performance data is required for describing this car, IMO. One last thing I think interesting... what sort of car (and cost) does it take to beat this car in the 1/4 mile?
Um, the cutaway shot at 1:58 is not actually to the first gen Turbo but rather to the second-gen 3.3 liter car. And the 1974 car (with the 3.0 liter engine) was actually called the Turbo Carrera.
Who gives a fuck about the width. The car looks way cooler. Wider tires more grip. A little more weight, more planted on the road. And clearly these video shots of this 2021 911 Turbo S look SO GOOD AND COOL the way this thing FLIES EFFORTLESSLY around corners at a QUICK, SHARP, STREAMLINED SPEED! 😎👍👍✅
i think it make sense the range is still pretty shit but its in its first generation so give it some time but honestly having set on electric cars im sold its instant power is amazing better responding then na engine hits harder then turbo engine
You all should do more video like this... good job editor for getting in there hilariously. That small cup holder is a deal breaker. I wasn't in the market for this car anyway.
Undoubtedly impressive, but I agree with Matt Farah's verdict that it's just a Carrera 4 that gets you a larger speeding ticket. The title of this video is evidence to this idea; extra performance is it's largest talking point. The Turbo no longer distinguishes itself sufficiently compared to the entry level Carrera, because the 'regular' 911 already has enough refinement and performance to be an excellent GT car, unlike the twentieth century. This is a car bought by the well-to-do man with a garage full of Snap-on tools because they're "the best", despite still needing his manual to do an oil change correctly. No wonder it's $200k.
I liked this review. I enjoyed his comments that went behind the standard list of gettysburg and figures. Bu they shouldn't put "0-60" in the description if all you have is the manufacturer's claims.
I like these, but the only way I would buy one is on the used market. Now, the new Vette is here. With more aggressive versions on the way. I could buy a used turbo and I do love this one, but the new Vette for me is just to much of a bargain.
Having a McLaren 720's spider and a Lamborghini performante Spyder. Also I add a Lamborghini SV roadster. I will tell you this although the McLaren and Porsche are faster in a straight line. The Lamborghini is far more fun to drive with the sound on the drama that goes along with it. One day I might enjoy a Porsche as well but it was a little bit to calm for me. They're just as nothing like a naturally-aspirated and that is the whole point of a driving experience
I think the presenter is unbelievable in that he is refreshingly objective! Not a pure fanboy. Awesome car but it DOES have downsides. Price is definitely up there, cant see the fuel gauge, tire noise, basic options on a pickup are thousands here like BSM and Vent seats? Centerlocks are ridiculous. Slave to dealer for tire changes and maintenance. Simply cant own these out of warranty. Ask me how I know!
This is the most boring I've ever seen on Porsche, didn't even finish watching. He won't even step on the gas and let it rip. Never coming back to his channel. check out Doug DeMuro, he's a goof ball but he's more funnier and exciting that his dead man and Doug steps on the gas, Just my 2 cents.
Who needs a daily driver that is this fast? I own a 2017 GTS and can never get to take advantage of its potential. I guess that some people just need to buy a car that can do speeds that no one with ever drive it. Porsche is the greatest daily driver sports car but why buy a car that you will never exploit when you can buy all the extras on a midrange model?
You know, the standard Carrera has gotten so good I just couldn't see spending the money on a Turbo, never mind a Turbo S. Maybe an Carrera S... but beyond that the diminishing returns curve looks awfully flat.
Yes...ever since the Carrera got the turbos with the 991.2 gen, there kind of isn't a reason to spend the extra money for a turbo. If you really want the extra power, you can get a stage 1 and get almost 600hp from a normal Carrera (4/S/4S).
Idk this thing in the hands of motortrend will probably tie or beat a Veyron to 60 , that's a cool bragging right for rich dudes and that quarter mile you know is faster than Porsche quotes
Turbo S is the perfect car when you want that one sports car that does it all...performance, looks, handling, comfort, practicality etc. If you enjoy collecting cars, there are more quirkier cars to collect compared to this.
Omg another journalist that doesn’t know the difference between a wastegate and blow off valve 🤦🏻♂️Please please please educate yourself sir, it’s embarrassing to the channel. This has been a PSA
Because it's just as fast and it's cheaper to buy and cheaper to maintain. Granted I don't think anyone buying either of these cars cares much about the cost. So maybe just to be a little cleaner?
uhhhhh because the soon to be released Lucid Air went 9.91 at 144mph out of the box? For a lot less? Yes the maintenance is almost non existent. Whats the last time your electric ceiling fan quit working? There you have it. be realistic. Dealers will go broke with electrics
Im a Porsche owner. Definitely overpriced! Ventilated seats and BSM an option on a 200K car? 360 camera an option? Jesus my F150 has that for 50K. Centerlocks for the street are a nightmare. Cant see the fuel gauge on the 992? Come on. Stop being fanboys
You know it would had been nice if there was a Standard Manual as you were driving on that road. You can stay in that gear and let it wind up and down. You feeling the seat too. You are not on a Track but daily driving to Work and Home. I'd lost interest in the 911 Turbo S with a $$$$$ PDK.
You can put PDK in manual mode. You could not keep up with this car with a manual. The last generation was no different, you will miss shift points with the paddles the car is so rapid, forget about shifting it fast enough. If you can , RIP your shift forks.
The new turbo is on paper a fantastic car I've a 992 4s and it dose what it says on the can good every day car and the figures Porsche say are very conservative they are always quicker than they say the handling is fantastic and in the wet brilliant and safe to I'm also pleased that the tyres fitted now have a good rim strip protector as everyone nows parking near gutters are a big problem ! I think the dash clocks should have had a lot more thought as all the motoring journalists complain about is the outer gauges you can't see them that needs sorting out ? I have now problems about the small gear selector pop it in to drive press the M button and thrash the tits of it ( when it's warm tho ) I hope all keep well and safe as the world has never seen times like this before when it's hopefully back to normal we can all go out and enjoy our cars what ever we drive 👍
Good question actually; maybe they have market research that shows their buyers are tech-types and early adopters, thus expect this styling to show the world they are cool?
First of all how on earth you can compare a tycan with turbo s? One is a supercar man.. Secondly turbo s is NOT a grand tourer. It's a supercar with sportscar looks. And just because 2 cars are similar in performance in straight line doesn't mean they can be compared. Also how the hell you need softer suspension in a supercar? What?? Seriously? 😂 And a gt3/gt3rs are way less in power and better in corners(slightly) but this thing has active anti rollbars and active engine mounts so this is arguably better cross between gt2rs & gt3rs. And most importantly this is coming from a NOT so much Porsche fan boy.. 😂
Please to see that you didn't feel that you had to ruin 4 good tyres in demonstrating the car's attributes. I have a 997c which after 20 track days I'm still learning how to drive. Turbo a long way off for me.
@@michaelmcdonald9847 An odd response since I just listed a couple of facts that have nothing to do with whether or not I am rich enough to have driven a $200k car. Do the facts bother you? I guarantee you that when the Z06 C8 comes out it is going to embarrass this Porsche on the Ring and be half the price. What am I saying, the 2017 C7 Z06 has already done that to the 2019 Porsche Turbo S.
LOL you can't compare a Porsche to a crap product like GM. HP figures are meaningless when you try to associate it to a price point. Also, in the real world, no one is seeing sub 3 seconds to 60, and quite honestly, thats another useless figure. Anyone can buy a Corvette, but very few can afford a Porsche.
@@JoeJacksonGT3 Did you see that Doug DeMuro, who is hardly someone who gives preference to American cars, gave the current C8 and Porsche Turbo S almost exactly the same score overall? And yes, pretty much every reviewer gets sub 3 second 0-60 time. You sound like a complete douche with that last line. Yes, only rich people can afford a $200k car. Does that make them better car people because they have more zeroes in their bank account. LOL, what a pompous jackass you are!
Nah mate. Old turbo s had 580hp and did 10.2 seconds on carwow. Faster than any car that has drag raced there. And there were some pretty fast ones! Huracan performantes aventadors mclarens(even a 720s). I can only imagine what this new one will do. Great car with great engineering and quality. You really can't compare this to a corvette or a cadillac. Even a m5 has nearly the power of this car for nearly half the price. But it's not it. Porsches might be(well probably are) a bit overpriced but it doesn't matter to the buyers. If you want a turbo s you'll get one. You wont go for a vette because it's half the price. These bad boys still get sold at that price point. Would a vette? No.
“porsche 911 used to be a small car”... are you really still complaining about the size?! are you really still compare this to a 993, a car of 25 years ago?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Shame that it got heavier and larger. Size and weight of a Camry. I think I'd save money and get the Taycan as nothing is more GT than a EV in my opinion. Not like this engine here sounds like anything special
Tyran Mathurin - ''The beauty is in the eye of the beholder'' - clearly, you've stated _you're_ not one. I think it's safe to assume that your optical perception of the 2021 *Porsche 911 Turbo S* is ''no skin off Porsche's nose'' . . . .😉
@@sharkamov And who says a frog isn't a beautiful creature? From since my childhood days a toad/frog came to mind whenever I see a 911 Sportscar. I honesty don't think 911s are amongst the best looking supercars out there. But I'd still like them. They're amazing machines, like I said.
@@TheTmat007 Right you are, - nothing, but _nothing_ beats nature! - I also think we are on the same page re. the ''refined'' looks on some other pricey automobiles v.s. the (whole) line of Porsche's (and, like you, I've _also_ from my childhood held a fascination for somewhat of an 'ugly duckling' re. cars, namely the SAAB 96, not whet you would call a 'looker', but what solid and dependable driving machines, especially if you were into speeding along winding gravel roads!...) My immediate response to your 'frog-like' comparison, admittedly - was rooted in the fable about 'kissing a toad/frog - and _Presto!: there sprung forth the hidden prince''.... (But, like I said, I still don't think the guys in Stuttgart would agree - fully!) . . . 😄👍
Just my opinion : earlier 911s, looked more frog-like as it grew in style and wheel-base (ie became bigger) , , its nothing less than a beauty .especially now.
Let's get back to horse and carriage, and candle lantern, and no more restaurants, and toothpaste and toothbrush, and let's stop using all the inventions of Nicola Tesla....I'm so tired of so called car shows talk about progress being made my Honda, or Porsche to follow the laws of various countries and keeping us safe and comfortable as being a bad thing.
Its design is inspired from the 1963 Porsche 911.. and it's very worth it..it has a better transmission and suspension than most of supercars..i guess you don't know much about cars
@@thatboy27506 on the contrary, it is because I know a lot about cars that I know how many terrific cars I can buy for $200,000. It is a ridiculous price for a staid, vapid and stale design.
@@thatboy27506 no, everybody does not love the 911, they have been hoodwinked and snookered into liking a design that is well past its prime. Even the Porsche Cayman and Boxster are better handling cars because they are mid-engined. The 911 is an antique that Porsche continues to Peddle on foolish people with too much money.
Soporific review.. Sorry Edmunds.. but for those who can afford one.. It's brilliant and worth short listing as part of your decision making process. ps. it's narrower than a 488 by over 5cm (2 inches!!!).. narrower in fact than any of its rivals...... and over 3cm narrower than the junior Macan suv... too wide?? utter rubbish..He's just regurgitating the same nonsense as most other middle of the road car reviewers. Sorry.. but the truth hurts.
What a boring reviewer. The guy has the personality of an EV car (none) and he shows absolutely no excitement at all. Which explains why he prefers EV cars
@@mattyoz0 You shouldn't be daydreaming or watching videos about cars, that you would never be able to afford in your sorry life . Stick to motorbikes loser
If you have the money why not. Sadly I only have money for an Audi A4. It is a 1/4 of the price and great but driving a Porsche is a whole other experience. Yes I owned a very old Porsche and even when 20 something years old was still a blast to drive and shocked my brother on how responsive the engine was and how tight the handling. Although if I had the money there would be a garage full of cars.
The last generation turbo is able to beat a performante and is a better daily than the r8. A used 720s is going to have you making trips to the mechanic frequently. This generation turbo is clearly superior. You just want to be flashy and know nothing about sophistication.
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Kinda depends on use. For a daily driver, you'd be hard pressed to beat something like the Taycan. But for a fun driving experience, road trip through the back country or for an occasional track day Turbo all the way. Or just what Alistair said and go GT3/4.
911 all day, every day..
Right now - Taycan Turbo S or a 911 GT - why spend so much money on this one when for much less I could buy the Carrera 4s - almost as fast?
Bavarian Car Enthusiast if you make that argument, why buy a 4S when for much less you could have a standard 4? Or why not just a standard Carrera, or 718?
@@ALMX5DP yes I cannot deny you have a strong argument here. - but - the 4s is already on such a high level, the turbo S is not significant step up. In the historic 911 time it was a different car, the gap was enormous.
I like the ending statement. A Turbo S buyer is exactly the type of person who wants to be recognized only by those that truly know the capabilities of what they are driving. No flashy, hypercar looks to draw the attention. Just the respect of those people who wouldn't dare challenge this car to a drag race. I quite like that about this car.
I don't agree. I live in Los Angeles and a Turbo S will get attention anywhere.
L.J Ross
I guess it depends on where you live. I live in the UK and 911's are everywhere. To many people this Turbo S would just be another 911. A McLaren or Lambo would get much more attention.
Or someone who wants to be recognized only by girls who truly know what that thing cost.
Well said
I don't think I've ever seen a review with someone so unmoved and unimpressed with what is arguably the greatest any-situation car on the planet.
DrewsTurbo I would be grinning ear to ear if I could afford one 😍
when he said he was torn between a taycan and a turbo s lol i was done
Half of the video was him shitting on Turbo S buyers. What's wrong with having enough money to buy what you like? The engineering improvements are a big selling point to buyers, he makes it sound like only "rich people" buy this car and don't enjoy it for what it is.
I fell asleep
"The greatest any situation car on the planet." I love that line. You need career in advertising.
I picked mine up on Monday and I’m absolutely smitten 🥰
A shame about all the negative comments about the super rich plus the ‘more money than talent’ stuff. Good understanding of the importance of compliance a bit of knowledge on the history of the Turbo. I have owned every variant of 911 except GT2 and have concluded that the Turbo and Turbo S are the best. What a 911 really needs is low end torque which so lacking in the naturally aspirated ones. Anyway, no more from me, super-rich git that I am apparently ...mind you I have extensively rallied 911s and currently own 8 of them.
What I love about this car is the power the luxury the tech and the performance all in one and no sacrifices, It’s the ultimate grand touring sports car. I understand wanting the gt3 but you sacrifice comfort for performance but this there is no sacrificing
Everybody in class: 🤣🥰🤪😭🤗
Porsche 911 turbo s : 😶
Thanks for producing content on such times!
Love Edmund's and most all Porsche. Like the reviewer here and the over all feel of the review. But, there was not enough about performance. Not even a lunch via launch control? You don't need a test track to have your head snapped back against the turbo S logo on the head rest. You could have compared the Porsche given specs to the R8 or whatever competition you feel this car has. And plenty of magazines test cars without a test track. There are such things as tape measures and stop watches... there are accelerators you can load on your phone. More performance data is required for describing this car, IMO. One last thing I think interesting... what sort of car (and cost) does it take to beat this car in the 1/4 mile?
Untouchable is a perfect word to describe this cars performance.
I just specced mine for 235k. Get her soon. Can’t wait.
Good for you. I hope things go well. Good luck
color?
You'll love it.
Those X patterned headlight look a bit silly, isn't customizable
Stop calling supercars "her", it's not a fucking prius.
Um, the cutaway shot at 1:58 is not actually to the first gen Turbo but rather to the second-gen 3.3 liter car.
And the 1974 car (with the 3.0 liter engine) was actually called the Turbo Carrera.
Sharp eye! I caught that also.
Who gives a fuck about the width. The car looks way cooler. Wider tires more grip. A little more weight, more planted on the road. And clearly these video shots of this 2021 911 Turbo S look SO GOOD AND COOL the way this thing FLIES EFFORTLESSLY around corners at a QUICK, SHARP, STREAMLINED SPEED! 😎👍👍✅
If you can keep the wing up I think this might almost be the prettiest 911 on sale.
Are we seeing the rear end of the same car? When that wing is down it’s bad.
Taycan an 911 are two different cars??? Why would I want a taycan if I’m after a 911??? You can’t compare the two..
Because acceleration is similar. Handling diff but that’s another story
They are quite similar I thought
Porsche themselves mentioned, that they want to attract Tesla drivers.
i think it make sense the range is still pretty shit but its in its first generation so give it some time but honestly having set on electric cars im sold its instant power is amazing better responding then na engine hits harder then turbo engine
You all should do more video like this... good job editor for getting in there hilariously.
That small cup holder is a deal breaker.
I wasn't in the market for this car anyway.
GhaV jGRite (jeaHAvee) 😂
Love the new rear , stunning car
Undoubtedly impressive, but I agree with Matt Farah's verdict that it's just a Carrera 4 that gets you a larger speeding ticket. The title of this video is evidence to this idea; extra performance is it's largest talking point. The Turbo no longer distinguishes itself sufficiently compared to the entry level Carrera, because the 'regular' 911 already has enough refinement and performance to be an excellent GT car, unlike the twentieth century.
This is a car bought by the well-to-do man with a garage full of Snap-on tools because they're "the best", despite still needing his manual to do an oil change correctly. No wonder it's $200k.
First I didn't like it but now I think it looks good
I highly complement you on this review. Great informative job. 👍🏽🤝😃
What are your current experiences with the normal PASM and PASM S (-10mm). Can you say something about comfort and driving characteristics?
I’d drive the red hell out of that machine
I liked this review. I enjoyed his comments that went behind the standard list of gettysburg and figures. Bu they shouldn't put "0-60" in the description if all you have is the manufacturer's claims.
Thanks Porsche for providing a target for the next Nissan GTR. Can't wait !
Only first gtr was faster than 911 for very short period bcz porche after that immediately updated 911 turbo
likely half as much. and it will most certainly be a hybrid
Great objective review
My draggy is arriving today! Can't wait to see in how many minutes my car does 100-200!😂😂😂
I like these, but the only way I would buy one is on the used market. Now, the new Vette is here. With more aggressive versions on the way. I could buy a used turbo and I do love this one, but the new Vette for me is just to much of a bargain.
Brits like us Aussies are the best car reviewers. Well done that man
Having a McLaren 720's spider and a Lamborghini performante Spyder. Also I add a Lamborghini SV roadster. I will tell you this although the McLaren and Porsche are faster in a straight line. The Lamborghini is far more fun to drive with the sound on the drama that goes along with it. One day I might enjoy a Porsche as well but it was a little bit to calm for me. They're just as nothing like a naturally-aspirated and that is the whole point of a driving experience
I think the presenter is unbelievable in that he is refreshingly objective! Not a pure fanboy. Awesome car but it DOES have downsides. Price is definitely up there, cant see the fuel gauge, tire noise, basic options on a pickup are thousands here like BSM and Vent seats? Centerlocks are ridiculous. Slave to dealer for tire changes and maintenance. Simply cant own these out of warranty. Ask me how I know!
Never saw a car review that made me depressed 😔
I would love to know what kind of watch is the driver wearing? Can anyone tell?
I bet you it’s faster than advertised I would have love to see some driving over 80 km😞
Excellent review. Really top notch.
At first I thought this was a Bill Hader‘s impression of a car review.
"What don't I like about this car" Not one word about its top speed. Cheers
Yes, a British review to watch finally ❤️
This is the most boring I've ever seen on Porsche, didn't even finish watching. He won't even step on the gas and let it rip. Never coming back to his channel. check out Doug DeMuro, he's a goof ball but he's more funnier and exciting that his dead man and Doug steps on the gas, Just my 2 cents.
Who needs a daily driver that is this fast? I own a 2017 GTS and can never get to take advantage of its potential. I guess that some people just need to buy a car that can do speeds that no one with ever drive it. Porsche is the greatest daily driver sports car but why buy a car that you will never exploit when you can buy all the extras on a midrange model?
sanju2
That’s not a reason! It’s like your post. It says nothing yet it’s there!
People who want to beat Teslas or people who actually will use it.
Can I say cheers to you...4th video of this car 1st journalist to call it a supercar..Indeed it is
You’re an excellent speaker
You know, the standard Carrera has gotten so good I just couldn't see spending the money on a Turbo, never mind a Turbo S. Maybe an Carrera S... but beyond that the diminishing returns curve looks awfully flat.
Yes...ever since the Carrera got the turbos with the 991.2 gen, there kind of isn't a reason to spend the extra money for a turbo. If you really want the extra power, you can get a stage 1 and get almost 600hp from a normal Carrera (4/S/4S).
BB I wonder how much hp/tq the 7 speed manual will be able to handle in the 992. A tuned Carrera S or GTS with a manual would be insane.
Idk this thing in the hands of motortrend will probably tie or beat a Veyron to 60 , that's a cool bragging right for rich dudes and that quarter mile you know is faster than Porsche quotes
That rear wing alone is worth the extra money 😁
BB exactly, a 992 4S with a tune is a junior Turbo.
Watching this Porsche video is making quarantine so hard !!!
Everything is perfect except for the wheel design. 😏
Good thing there are like half a dozen wheel choices that Porsche offers.
Yea doesn't Porsche sell like endless wheel options haha
@@ALMX5DP Are there?
@@lukaposeidon8490 yes
RS Spyder Wheels are perfect
I love this car and I will have a Porsche soon
Storp plus is really great 😂😂
Turbo S is the perfect car when you want that one sports car that does it all...performance, looks, handling, comfort, practicality etc. If you enjoy collecting cars, there are more quirkier cars to collect compared to this.
Factory ..0 to 60 is 2.8 sec ...It will do 0 to 60 in probably 2.3 seconds ..
My insomnia is now cured
Loved your review
very hard to buy anything else as a daily driver after owning a Turbo S.....991.2 even looks very modern compared to the 992 TTS.......
Just let it ripp after upshifting and you going to get your waste gate release sound that you miss so much.
Omg another journalist that doesn’t know the difference between a wastegate and blow off valve 🤦🏻♂️Please please please educate yourself sir, it’s embarrassing to the channel. This has been a PSA
doesn't matter both are for ricers
Why the hell would someone want an electric car over this? Gas engines aren't going anywhere for a LONG time.
if ever
Because it's just as fast and it's cheaper to buy and cheaper to maintain. Granted I don't think anyone buying either of these cars cares much about the cost. So maybe just to be a little cleaner?
uhhhhh because the soon to be released Lucid Air went 9.91 at 144mph out of the box? For a lot less? Yes the maintenance is almost non existent. Whats the last time your electric ceiling fan quit working? There you have it. be realistic. Dealers will go broke with electrics
I’d just have a 2015 Camaro z28 with a built motor for a weekend toy. Much more fun and memorable.
Like this guy, use him more.
Boxster s is my choice and the gts wow...But a 911 isn't bad
Where the 0-60 test
Never mentioned FERRARI 🙄 but Maclaren ☑️ tick, other 911s ☑️ tick and still calls Paddle shifters “Flappy”
Are you sure it's 2021 Porsche, not 2042 ?
cool car, but Porsche have over priced it. good review, but would like to see you really give it some real stick.
Over priced? It’s much cheaper than cars with less impressive performance.
Performance vs price ? It blows everything else out of the water for value.
Im a Porsche owner. Definitely overpriced! Ventilated seats and BSM an option on a 200K car? 360 camera an option? Jesus my F150 has that for 50K. Centerlocks for the street are a nightmare. Cant see the fuel gauge on the 992? Come on. Stop being fanboys
You know it would had been nice if there was a Standard Manual as you were driving on that road. You can stay in that gear and let it wind up and down. You feeling the seat too. You are not on a Track but daily driving to Work and Home. I'd lost interest in the 911 Turbo S with a $$$$$ PDK.
You can put PDK in manual mode. You could not keep up with this car with a manual. The last generation was no different, you will miss shift points with the paddles the car is so rapid, forget about shifting it fast enough. If you can , RIP your shift forks.
Factory 0 to 60 is always slower..Test it first..It will probably do 0 to 60 in 2.3 seconds or 2.2
Alistair is an underrated journalist, please use him and Carlos more!
0-60? I didn’t see you time it?
The new turbo is on paper a fantastic car I've a 992 4s and it dose what it says on the can good every day car and the figures Porsche say are very conservative they are always quicker than they say the handling is fantastic and in the wet brilliant and safe to I'm also pleased that the tyres fitted now have a good rim strip protector as everyone nows parking near gutters are a big problem ! I think the dash clocks should have had a lot more thought as all the motoring journalists complain about is the outer gauges you can't see them that needs sorting out ? I have now problems about the small gear selector pop it in to drive press the M button and thrash the tits of it ( when it's warm tho ) I hope all keep well and safe as the world has never seen times like this before when it's hopefully back to normal we can all go out and enjoy our cars what ever we drive 👍
More expensive than a Mclaren 570s ? Huh ? 911 Is in different league
do you know what is a mclaren 570 ? apparently not from your answer 😊
Correct - different beast
@@tsawaya9279 Clearly you don't either judging from yours.
Wahab .Goldsmith oh really ? Then I will leave you with your silly conclusion
@@tsawaya9279 Your comment has not aged well.
Why do electric cars have to look so cheesy? Alien styling, freaky wheels, bizarre headlights all fit in a cheese-ball Sci-Fi movie...
Good question actually; maybe they have market research that shows their buyers are tech-types and early adopters, thus expect this styling to show the world they are cool?
This car is my dream !
"it's good that you get a Bose sound system" Bose is garbage. lol.
yep
First of all how on earth you can compare a tycan with turbo s? One is a supercar man.. Secondly turbo s is NOT a grand tourer. It's a supercar with sportscar looks.
And just because 2 cars are similar in performance in straight line doesn't mean they can be compared. Also how the hell you need softer suspension in a supercar? What?? Seriously? 😂 And a gt3/gt3rs are way less in power and better in corners(slightly) but this thing has active anti rollbars and active engine mounts so this is arguably better cross between gt2rs & gt3rs. And most importantly this is coming from a NOT so much Porsche fan boy.. 😂
A rather 'down-to-terra-firma' review! . . . . 😉👍
Like the color choice red goes faster hehehe
I like Carlos better.
Yes, demure is always the best with such a loud automobile....
Does your want to own on supersede the ability to buy one? I think not. You either have the money or you buy a Hyundai.
Please to see that you didn't feel that you had to ruin 4 good tyres in demonstrating the car's attributes. I have a 997c which after 20 track days I'm still learning how to drive. Turbo a long way off for me.
Porsche now just uses "turbo" as punctuation....
640hp, wow! The same amount of horsepower in a 2016 Cadillac! And 0.2 seconds faster than a $65k base-model Corvette!
I'm assuming you own none of these cars and have not driven any of them
@@michaelmcdonald9847 An odd response since I just listed a couple of facts that have nothing to do with whether or not I am rich enough to have driven a $200k car. Do the facts bother you? I guarantee you that when the Z06 C8 comes out it is going to embarrass this Porsche on the Ring and be half the price. What am I saying, the 2017 C7 Z06 has already done that to the 2019 Porsche Turbo S.
LOL you can't compare a Porsche to a crap product like GM. HP figures are meaningless when you try to associate it to a price point. Also, in the real world, no one is seeing sub 3 seconds to 60, and quite honestly, thats another useless figure. Anyone can buy a Corvette, but very few can afford a Porsche.
@@JoeJacksonGT3 Did you see that Doug DeMuro, who is hardly someone who gives preference to American cars, gave the current C8 and Porsche Turbo S almost exactly the same score overall? And yes, pretty much every reviewer gets sub 3 second 0-60 time. You sound like a complete douche with that last line. Yes, only rich people can afford a $200k car. Does that make them better car people because they have more zeroes in their bank account. LOL, what a pompous jackass you are!
Nah mate. Old turbo s had 580hp and did 10.2 seconds on carwow. Faster than any car that has drag raced there. And there were some pretty fast ones! Huracan performantes aventadors mclarens(even a 720s). I can only imagine what this new one will do. Great car with great engineering and quality. You really can't compare this to a corvette or a cadillac. Even a m5 has nearly the power of this car for nearly half the price. But it's not it. Porsches might be(well probably are) a bit overpriced but it doesn't matter to the buyers. If you want a turbo s you'll get one. You wont go for a vette because it's half the price. These bad boys still get sold at that price point. Would a vette? No.
Has anyone seen REAL 0-60 and 1/4mi times yet?
They will definitely be faster in real life than the released Porsche numbers... they are always understated.
Matt Watson at Carwow hit 2.55s to 60 on a road while traction control was going off... it's got a ways to go past that.
Does 0-60 in 2.2.
Car and Driver did it in 2.2 sec
I would go for the 992 Carrera 4s
He is comparing a Turbo S to a Taycan and still has doubts? He should find a different profession...
“porsche 911 used to be a small car”... are you really still complaining about the size?! are you really still compare this to a 993, a car of 25 years ago?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Seriously. That argument is starting to irritate me. Obviously the car has to get bigger to accommodate new technology.
Shame that it got heavier and larger. Size and weight of a Camry. I think I'd save money and get the Taycan as nothing is more GT than a EV in my opinion. Not like this engine here sounds like anything special
Where's Carlos?
Amazing car, as always. But it still looks like a damn toad/frog after all these years.
Tyran Mathurin - ''The beauty is in the eye of the beholder'' - clearly, you've stated _you're_ not one. I think it's safe to assume that your optical perception of the 2021 *Porsche 911 Turbo S* is ''no skin off Porsche's nose'' . . . .😉
@@sharkamov
And who says a frog isn't a beautiful creature? From since my childhood days a toad/frog came to mind whenever I see a 911 Sportscar. I honesty don't think 911s are amongst the best looking supercars out there. But I'd still like them. They're amazing machines, like I said.
@@TheTmat007 Right you are, - nothing, but _nothing_ beats nature! - I also think we are on the same page re. the ''refined'' looks on some other pricey automobiles v.s. the (whole) line of Porsche's (and, like you, I've _also_ from my childhood held a fascination for somewhat of an 'ugly duckling' re. cars, namely the SAAB 96, not whet you would call a 'looker', but what solid and dependable driving machines, especially if you were into speeding along winding gravel roads!...) My immediate response to your 'frog-like' comparison, admittedly - was rooted in the fable about 'kissing a toad/frog - and _Presto!: there sprung forth the hidden prince''.... (But, like I said, I still don't think the guys in Stuttgart would agree - fully!) . . . 😄👍
Just my opinion : earlier 911s, looked more frog-like as it grew in style and wheel-base (ie became bigger) , , its nothing less than a beauty .especially now.
It can do 0-100 in less then 2.2 seconds
The new 911 will hit the 1/4 mile in under 10 seconds m the old one did it in 10.3
You just got gapped.
Lucid Air. 9.91 sec at 144mph. Think about it. incredible
Let's get back to horse and carriage, and candle lantern, and no more restaurants, and toothpaste and toothbrush, and let's stop using all the inventions of Nicola Tesla....I'm so tired of so called car shows talk about progress being made my Honda, or Porsche to follow the laws of various countries and keeping us safe and comfortable as being a bad thing.
$200,000 for a car that looks like it's 25 years old? Please.
Its design is inspired from the 1963 Porsche 911.. and it's very worth it..it has a better transmission and suspension than most of supercars..i guess you don't know much about cars
@@thatboy27506 on the contrary, it is because I know a lot about cars that I know how many terrific cars I can buy for $200,000. It is a ridiculous price for a staid, vapid and stale design.
@@TheHomeExpert5 Just say whatever you want to the 911, everyone still loves the 911
@@thatboy27506 no, everybody does not love the 911, they have been hoodwinked and snookered into liking a design that is well past its prime. Even the Porsche Cayman and Boxster are better handling cars because they are mid-engined. The 911 is an antique that Porsche continues to Peddle on foolish people with too much money.
@@TheHomeExpert5 You said that the Cayman is a better handling car? Oh cmon
Soporific review.. Sorry Edmunds.. but for those who can afford one.. It's brilliant and worth short listing as part of your decision making process. ps. it's narrower than a 488 by over 5cm (2 inches!!!).. narrower in fact than any of its rivals...... and over 3cm narrower than the junior Macan suv... too wide?? utter rubbish..He's just regurgitating the same nonsense as most other middle of the road car reviewers. Sorry.. but the truth hurts.
Kinda sassy for a nerd 😂
what the hell you saying?
I will sell my wife for this car🤤🤤🤤
So do you actually have a wife or is this a scene out of Taken?
@@almac9203 I am not married yet😅
What a boring reviewer. The guy has the personality of an EV car (none) and he shows absolutely no excitement at all.
Which explains why he prefers EV cars
10.5 @ 205mph lol
not @, I believe he said "and hit 205"
You can't read lol
LOL
Top Speed 205mph
Quarter Mile in 10.5
Carwow did it in 10.1 sec
😴😴😴
i still call it leather
Perhaps the worst review of ANY car I've ever seen. Congratulations!
Boring stale car . I would rather get a R8 v10 plus , or a used 720s than waste my money on this
Lucky you don't have $100 in the bank.
@@mattyoz0 You shouldn't be daydreaming or watching videos about cars, that you would never be able to afford in your sorry life . Stick to motorbikes loser
If you have the money why not. Sadly I only have money for an Audi A4. It is a 1/4 of the price and great but driving a Porsche is a whole other experience. Yes I owned a very old Porsche and even when 20 something years old was still a blast to drive and shocked my brother on how responsive the engine was and how tight the handling. Although if I had the money there would be a garage full of cars.
The last generation turbo is able to beat a performante and is a better daily than the r8. A used 720s is going to have you making trips to the mechanic frequently. This generation turbo is clearly superior. You just want to be flashy and know nothing about sophistication.