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SEIKO! Was this a Lazy Move.
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2022
- To celebrate a long lost reference Seiko have released 2 new Seiko 5's called the Time Sonar's. Thanks to Francis & Gayes I have both colours to show you, give an in depth review of these then tell you if you should buy them or not!
Its time to embrace these Seiko 5KX's and not keep mourning over the discontinued SKX line!
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i fell in love with the blue version :) was an instant buy! First saw the Japanese limited edition ones, sadly limited. but gladly they released these ones to easily get!
Congrats my friend!!
They're beautiful timepieces at a great price with in-house movements.
I just ordered the Teal version.
I think they are great.
Superb James!
I purchased the pair of them. Not bad timekeeping neither!
Really like them as well. Just wish they were “real divers” with screw down crown and would have preferred a solid case back.
It actually looks kind of cool from a distance. There’s so many different variations of this watch already that I don’t see an issue with adding this dial variation into the mix. And so long as they don’t charge a premium, I say it’s all good.
This will be my first automatic watch, im gonna take it next week. I like how it looks very much
I have the blue one, it looks better in person than in video/pictures. It really is a gorgeous watch.. Not fancy, but nice.
The SKX is a relic of what Seiko used to be- solid, good quality innovative, well priced watches. These new 5's sum up what Seiko are today ( on their watches up to a grand) in my opinion
Well said Phil!
The skx doesn't compere to my 5kx in blue it's outdated with a 7s26 a classic but my 5kx is much better and I've got both
with no hacking, no hand winding and terrible accuracy. i'm a seiko guy from way back and as a wearer i prefer the newer watches
Can’t argue that you get a better Spec’d 5Kx I’m disappointed with the amount of variations there are . They are dive style watches now and that’s sad for such an icon that it was. It started me off on the journey!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Indeed. I already had a Seiko 5 sport on my cart and then I learned that it is not a diver watch and only has 100m resistance. So I ended up discarding it and for a slightly lower price I got the Citizen Promaster Eco-Drive that will give me guarantee on my intended water sports this summer!
Mr Pagani warming up with “bumblebee”😂 excellent show MWC!! 👍👌
Russ, Russ, Russ! It really shows what you think of these two when you constantly call the movement 4R35 while everybody can READ on the back that it's a 4R36. Not that us "older" SKX owners wouldn't know anyway. Swapping the movements was the most favourite mod. Talking about mods: If one isn't lazy and wants to do some serious watch building, all parts needed to build a watch close to these can be bought on Aliexpress for roughly €120,- or 105,- GBP.
Always my favorite part...."What The Wife Said." She was much kinder than I thought she would be. 👍
Honest as ever, yeah, Seiko tend to go the easy way sometimes, don't they? Your wife's first impressions always make me at least smile 😄, but most of the time crack up like no tomorrow 🤣.
Hahahaha thank you SS! Always shoots from the hip!
Always look forward to this segment of the videos!
Me too, often have to chuckle.
Great video! I'm looking at picking one of these up so it's nice to find a full review with lots of good video since I was undecided on the color I wanted. Definitely the turquoise!
My first watch that has begun my obsession was/is a seiko 7s26-0040 and I picked it up for £5 from a charity shop!.... After looking it up online and realising how lucky I got I then began researching watches and their engineering etc and have been enchanted ever since.... I'm hoping to get the seiko 5 Sports with orange dial next as that's a good bright work watch.
Once the novelty dial vibe wears off you are left with a fugly watch. Chr Ward had a few recently, same result I feel.
Great episode as ever.
100% Jim!
I think that was the most funny/bonkers, yet still informative and detailed review I ve ever watched,superb!!
Got a blue one during the black friday sale for 200£. I'm not complaining for the price and it's definitely a really fun watch that won't be to everyone's taste but at least it's not boring! Great review and new sub!
I just bought an SPRJ45 for $220...
It's the first Seiko that tickled me right to pull the trigger on one. It might be lazy, but it must be effective, because they reeled me in, lol.
These are very cool and best price ever. I don’t think you can get any better than this. I bought both of them for my collection. The watches really cool under the lights and sunlights ❤
They do look very cool Adam for sure!
You are nearly 30K Rus... I loved the very zany days of pre 5K subs. You have retained the same style, while evolving . I love the look of these.
Denis! Always appreciate you stopping by! It has definitely been a journey! A quest for improving every time whilst maintaining the entertainment side is what I always strive for! The second it becomes forced I don’t know what I’d do!
That blue dial is sharp! I would definitely prefer that it had a screw-down crown.
Agree!!!
I wish Seiko would quit crapping out lazy variation of the SKX007 version of the Sekio 5 and just give us the damn SKX013 Seiko 5 we've been asking for!
This guys way of speaking, dressing, editing and branding is so perfectly 2011 it scares me.
Spot on.
that brown one is fire
Very cool to look at my friend for sure!!
My favorite watch created by Seiko to date!!
"I only did one, but still..." 😂 Fantastic review - very much agree. Would love that beautiful dial on a non "dive-style" watch! But chunky can of tuna diver without a screw-down crown? C'moooon seiko!
Thanks for watching my good friend! Hahaha
“I don’t dislike it” is a very high British compliment 💂♀️
Also, your sign-offs are becoming legendary!! 🤣😂🤣😜😆
The JDM with the day name on English and Kanji looks even better. I'm also in the blue team.
Yes!! That would look cool just like the originals!
I love Seiko. But if they're gonna be putting out this many watches based on the SKX case, why don't they just REISSUE THE SKX007/9?! 4R36, drilled lugs, screw in crown, lume pip at 12, ISO. People would pay for that.
Great show
I like these Seikos 5 and wont hear bad words about them...its snobbery against those with a certain budget..I think they keep great time for me
Alan! No snobbery at all my friend! These watches are for people starting the hobby imo that’s all, from the 3hrz movement, the dive style look. Solid watch that won’t let you down for sure
My daily wear is a smart professional Seiko 5 with the older Superman logo but the 5KX divers are an abomination and for the same money there are better dive options with Orient, Citizen, etc or even getting a proper SKX if you look on ebay for long enough to see one at a fair price.
Great show as always MWC 👏👏👏👏
These aren’t really my thing but they seem like a fun variation and a nice nod to Seiko’s past. I don’t have an issue with the 5KX not being a true diver but it would have been nice to see a more faithful chronograph reissue which would have been something new for the revamped Seiko 5 line. A chrono would have almost made it a must buy but if you’ve got a diver and aren’t into fun colours (like me 😂) then these are neither here nor there really. But of fun though for sure 👍
Yeah I think these are superb watches for people just getting into Watches or Seiko Gareth!
Come on mate. It's Seiko being different 😊
A little lazy matey
I've seen it in a boutique in Amsterdam a month ago; quite a nice watch, but it has two major flaws in my opinion: the case back which reminds me of the old plates from the 70's my grand mother used for dinner, and the case material which is strangely polished.
I remember those vereco smoked glass plates and tea sets from the 70s and you're spot on. The brown dial is like the amber ones. Watch would of looked way better without the dive bezel.
Why didnt they just colormatch the caseback with the dial. Think that would have looked abit better and also liked they put in a little bit of effort into it =)
6:50 heya, just a correction here. Its a 4R36 movement, not a 4R35. 4R35 only has a date wheel while the 4R36 is a day date, they're also the basis for the NH35 and NH36 that microbrands buy on bulk from Seiko respectively.
Maybe out of place but I have to ask where can I get one of those F91W t-shirts you’re wearing? It’s not in your merch store…
neat watch. thank you.
Having a bit of a rubbish week and this vid drops. Thanks for just being proper funny
Darren, I’m so glad you found it my friend! For those that need it, it’s there!!! All the best my friend!!
So basically it's I don't like it, but I don't hate it either situation?
I love the look of the brown one. Maybe I'm getting older :(
Thanks for this review i clearly think on this product as i hesitated to buy or pass on it. I cancel my order now and buy different seiko 5 gmt maybe ssk series
Good choice !!
I LOVE my skx011j. I've been looking at these and the limited edition kosuke kawamura, but I can't get past everyone talking about the diminished quality and lack of specs. Kind of a bummer.
The Kawamura is the watch Seiko should’ve have made with these releases!
100% agree with this reveiw, I'm not a seiko guru but ive had seiko's in the past and got the skx and the 5kx and I just don't get these ones sorry
Yeah I think these are more for the beginner in this hobby which is fine !
Excellent review as usual. I really like 70s-look watches, I'm more drawn to the brown one though (a lot of stuff was brown in the seventies). Your comment about the clouded dial is spot-on, what are Seiko thinking? Oh, and your side look to camera when you mentioned your wife's hieroglyphics comment - I had to pause the video as I was laughing so much. You're a natural in front of that camera, Russ. I'm going to recommend you to the BBC to replace Graham Norton.
Mr MWC…. Don’t these have the 4r36 (day/date) not 4r35 (date only) movement?
If you can’t tell from looking at the dial these are day and dates all hope is lost for you my friend!! Thank
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR but you continuously refer to the movement as a 4r35…. I’m lost 😂
Keep up the great content! 🎉🎉🎉
@@mattrowl01 apologies my friend it’s a mistake if I do!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR love your stuff! Looking forward to the next vid!
What the wife said is the best part of the show. Agree with her in 90% of the cases.
Hahahaha I agree!
Is Brutus a Rhodesian Caseback?
Hahahahaha
A bit over-saturated with Seiko. Maybe you're interested in reviewing the Sinn 556 RS? It's my absolute favourite now, gotta get it 😜
Gerry! Very good choice my friend!!
What a GREAT video to watch … about a watch !!! Thanks! 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you my friend!!
Great review as always! One thing I can say about Seiko- they seem to have a watch for any taste out there.
That is 100% correct !!
Looks very nice, I still really want an SKX but this might scratch that itch, and the price is attractive. As far as diving goes, might find myself a couple of millimetres underwater, so no screw down crown isn't really going to bother me :)
New affordable. Selko time sonars was. This. a. Lazy. Move
Great video. Loving the endings as well.
Cheers Andy!!
Great video as usual, Russ. :)
I'm not a fan of this design. "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
I agree with you that it's lazy. Whoever designed this didn't stop to think if the two watches that make up this chimera make for an attractive watch when combined.
The watch from the 70s that you showed works well because the see-through dial is relatively clean. You can see the date wheel clearly. It doesn't work nearly as well if you smash all the SKX markers on to it. IMO, it makes the translucent dial pointless. Add to that the translucent caseback, and it looks like they're trying to hide the innards of the watch.
It might be for someone, but it's not for me.
Agreed my friend. The watches look great and would appeal to many! But like proper Enthusiasts, once you peel that onion, you are left with a cheapened product and a ‘what could’ve been’ product!
But can you use the stopwatch like the original??
No;) you can hack the seconds hand. This is why it was a lazy move by Seiko!
Cool idea. Mixed execution. My guess is they'll be popular, but Seiko missed an opportunity to make this version special.
Very popular to non watch folk I think my friend! The Seiko 5 is marketed towards those guys and that’s fine!
Love it,especially the blue dial.
Totally agree with you on all aspects, it's a quirky interesting watch with a price that matches its features.
No screw down to me is the worst feature it doesn't have, but it's face is it's crown jewels... even though it doesn't have any (jewels?).
Great fun review TMWC, all the best.
Thank you my friend! Appreciate this!
Just a gorgeous watch
Crude bracelet with hardscratch crystal and a dial they were too lazy to paint means any Homage brand will do it cheaper with sapphire in a few months and use the same movement.
I have the same opinion on these. I saw Marc's video on them a while back and all I got out of it was " oh another version of the 5KX" I'd rather they had re-issued The Time Sonar as it was. I own one of their Recraft models. They make some great looking retro pieces. A new Time Sonar would have been Suh-WEET! 🤣 They've just churned out so many versions of the 5KX I'm really over it. It's become Seiko's fashion watch. Cheers Russ!❤
it's a seiko 5"KX" with no crown guards and a slightly fancier dial...
May I add one more argument in the lazy column? Christopher Ward has had a semi-transparent dial for a couple
years now. This reminds me more of CW than of the Time Sonar. Goliath aping David, who would have thought.
Agree my friend but just remember who was doing it almost 50 years ago! And for the price and in house movement for well under £300. On paper it’s not a bad buy;)
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Yeah , very lazy lol , you must be one of the few collectors who would have the new Seiko 5's on their show .So well done dear boy!
Hahahaha cheers Mal! They certainly did charm me! But imagine how cool they could’ve been!
The SBSA177/SRPJ41 Kosuke Kawamura limited edition version of the Time Sonar at least approximates the look of the original, if you're game for paying at least $700+ USD for garden variety Seiko specs (MSRP is $945). Seiko's recent volume of output is diluting the brand--many new releases fall into the "all looks and no brains" category--just a step away from fashion watches.
I think under the 400 pound mark , Seiko has become purely fashion based as you suggest! To get a great Seiko you have to pay the good money these days unfortunately;(
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Love this "fumé" look to the dial.
I have a couple of "dive style" Seiko 5 watches and the movement is dead on!
And, By the way, speaking of movement, you say it's a 4R35 ... it's actually a 4R36 i.e. Day and Date as opposed to only date ... just sayin' 😊
Thanks for the show my friend!
Is it good ? I wanna buy
I’m still hoping Seiko releases new Divers 200 meter watches.
They will!
Minimum Effort, Maximum Effect..! Seiko I Meant Not U, Russ, Thank U, ps I Sent U a Mssg.
That should be the strap line!!!!!
Im tempted Russ matey, partly because Im a Seiko nut, partly because the see through thingy is cool. If its good enough for MRS MWC its good enough for me!
Initially I thought you are just goofy with no actual substance…but I’m glad to say that i like the content as well :) Another good video and I’ll subscribe 🙌🏽
I agree, I think it is a bit lazy, if you are going to reference a vintage piece then at least do it some justice and make it some sort of chrono. Great video as always Russell 👌👍😊
yeah, I like your channel. there, I said it.
YES I FINALLY GOT YOU!!!! Welcome aboard my friend!
I think you’d much more prefer the limited edition Srpj41 and 43 time sonar watches. Check em out 😁
Yes they are great! It should’ve been the approach they took instead of these my friend imo
Aaaaaand with this video, I'm geting into Seiko. Thank you. Just Subscribed and liked The video. Baam
I dig the dial, but the hollow end links, hardlex and jangly bracelet make me sad. Also, it needs to be more faithful to the original - that bezel is sloppy.
I'd prefer a San Martin any day. Better bang for your buck and they do better finishing and listen to their customers. Pretty much the same movement.
Thanks Mr S! How cool would a new reinterpretation of this have been!!!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR It would still have those Seiko skimpy features, but it would be a better homage to the original. And an original watch that pretty deserves a faithful reimagining of it.
Agree with the Trouble& Strife.
Look like a 4R36 movement with the day date like in the others Seiko 5, and not a 4R35 with only the date.
As funny and entertaining to watch, a great choice of watch as usual. With a good jubilee bracelet, like on the king trurle or an Orien Kamasu, the watch will look excellent.
Pretty sure I mentioned both. 4R36 it is.
Not bad at all. Maybe lazy, but in a good way. I do prefer a normal one, this is too gimmicky for me.
Cheers Kees! I need to embrace the 5 KX more now! Maybe get a Chun Li one!!!!;)
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I didn't know there was a Street Fighter series. They are amazing, guess I like gimmicky after all. A Blanka or Zangief version for me.
I hate dates on watches as it is, these are like Kryptonite to me...Runs away screaming :)
Link to uncle straps jubilee bracelet you would buy plz?
Hi I am thinking of buying a Christopher Ward C65 watch either the Sandhurst or the Cranwell series 2 watches. Have you had any experience with either of those watches? Great RUclips channel, always entertaining.😊
Hi, wow thanks very much. The only social media I use is RUclips. What is telegram?
What seiko model case is the same as the Time Sonar (if I wanted to mod it and get a new case)? An SKX5 case will work with this dial?
For sure!
Nice looking watches, but I am not a fan of the Seiko 5KX. It has a confused identity, and these sonars do not help its case much. Seiko should have reissued these as chronos also.Thanks for the video!
Agree Eddie! Cheers!
I have a suggestion for a video. Do Seiko release too many models? There are so many it's hard to tell them some of them apart. To me it's all becoming a blur. Rolex has come in for a lot of hate lately but I always think they had just the right number.
See I think that’s a good thing my friend! I have 10 Seiko’s and only one Rolex . I don’t want another Rolex but I’d like another 10 Seiko’s! There is more chance you find your perfect watch with Seiko then Rolex in this case? I’m done with the brand Rolex. I will never be done with Seiko! ;) all the best my friend!
Thirsty was mint
Not horrible but nah. Budget all the way down the checklist (as to be expected from Seiko now) and to me the dial looks toy like although interesting. Loved the original sonar though.
Agreed WGW!!!
Seiko should have released these with their meca quartz movement. Then it would have been a great call back to the originals. I would have bought them in a flash!
The watch I love the dial I don't....🏴⌚🏴⌚
Interesting and disappointing how interesting the idea is - creative dial, but they went into a route too safe. Wonder how the Time Sonar would look like in all its glory (and functions) true to the original
The original chronographs look awesome. I would totally consider buying an actual reissue. But those are kinda boring tbh.
"I have excitement and disappointment at same time"
Hahahaha
I totally agree that the design is lazy, but they look good.
Agreed!
It can be hard to take the reviewer seriously by the presentation, but the information he relays definitely should be taken seriously. This is a great review! Very entertaining and informative at the same time.
As for the watch, it's all looks and no substance. Pass on this one.
You are very kind my friend! I only like to be taken half seriously!!
When are you releasing a “what the wife thinks” hardback book of watch reviews 😂😂. Totally agree here though. Looks cool, falls a bit flat.
Hahahahaha!!! I don’t wanna big her up to much!!
Your wife’s review is gold 😅
She’s an institution nowadays!;)
So it's a lazy Seikonar. :)
Is the crystal on top a sapphire or hardlex?
Gimmie a guess;)
Great video, I also think they're pumping out these fake skx way too fast. It's making Seiko money.
When will this channel reach 1M subs yet?
It's a very poor effort 😤 how many 5kx do we need really 😬 I have the orange one and have given it a sapphire and a new bezel insert but once you have one 🤔meh!