Testing out the new Pen Tips 2

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @PaulGreeve
    @PaulGreeve Год назад +192

    I’ve been using a magnetic screen protector for a couple of months and really like it. You know you can wash them with a gentle detergent? It should remove all that dirt and return the protector to almost new.

    • @bitesizeart6054
      @bitesizeart6054 Год назад +1

      is it matte?

    • @PaulGreeve
      @PaulGreeve Год назад +18

      @@bitesizeart6054 I have two (both appear to be made of the day materials). One is by Bellemond, the other by ESR. The both work well and are easy to clean when required.

    • @DARKINBLADE.
      @DARKINBLADE. Год назад

      @@PaulGreeve Wouldn't the detergent, even if gentle, get rid of some of the paper texture though?

    • @PaulGreeve
      @PaulGreeve Год назад +25

      @@DARKINBLADE. No. That texture is moulded into the plastic surface of the protector. Mild detergent won’t affect the plastic.

    • @mint7fros
      @mint7fros Год назад +1

      my magnetic screen protecters magnets has started to become weaker do you have any way to fix that?

  • @RobMcCallumArt
    @RobMcCallumArt Год назад +32

    Ive been jumping around screen protectors. Im sick of the matte ones wearing down my pencil tips to the metal. So, got the magnetic one. I really like it. Also love just taking it off and drawing on the bare screen. The slip on pen tips aren’t for me. Too squishy. Like drawing on the Gen 1 iPad Pro with the styluses available at the time. Im also quite paranoid so ended up putting a glass screen protector on. Decided to try out the magnetic one and BOOM! It stays in place over the glass screen protector. Best of both worlds!

  • @LarsErikRobinson1971
    @LarsErikRobinson1971 11 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you I was about to purchase the pro tips and I have had the paperlike screen for a long time and you you just help me decide to stay with my current screen protector

  • @csibibi2
    @csibibi2 Год назад +7

    I've been using the magnetic screen protector for three months now, and though it can get grimy, it's also easy to clean with a microfiber cloth and some screen cleaning liquid. Was curious about the pen tips 2 and I'll check them out as soon as I win the lottery. Thanks for the review!

  • @donielstrong3993
    @donielstrong3993 Год назад +5

    I pre ordered the glove, rubber pen tips, pen tips pro, and the procreate short key pad, and to say the least I’m only using the screen protector and the key pad now. Both pen tips wore out the same day, and the glove is poorly made unraveling the same day. Also the pen tips 2 wore down to the metal and scratched my screen protector. Not user error either. I submitted a ticket about my concerns and was promised replacements and it never came. I was extremely disappointed in my experience.

  • @tbray
    @tbray Год назад +19

    I'm happy to see this review - I was seriously contemplating getting them as I'd tried th silicone sleeve-tips and found them not great, and was curious to know if these were a better alternative. Looks like I'll stick to matte screen protectors until Apple decides to "do a Wacom" and release an iPad with the option of an etched glass screen.

  • @PumpkinPails
    @PumpkinPails Год назад +30

    $50?! In this economy? Yeah, no. Even with the review I thought I’d give them a try, but that’s robbery. I expected them to be like $10-12. It’s three pieces of rubber.

  • @jennrodriguezdaluz
    @jennrodriguezdaluz Год назад +5

    thanks for the review! i am in an eternal struggle it seems trying to find a way to feel comfortable drawing on my ipad. i like having the texture sheets but as you said, they dull the colors. and cheap or expensive, they wear down fast and scratch easy and i can feel it in my own strokes. likewise, i also hate the rubber caps which let me feel every bit of dust on my screen. even the replacement tips are so hit or miss, I've had to return a few just because they made my pen accuracy unusable.
    the hunt continues! id look forward to any other pen or screen modifications you'd care to do in the future!

  • @cartoonblock
    @cartoonblock Год назад +1

    Good review. Thanks Brad

  • @willhill5361
    @willhill5361 Год назад +4

    I use both a paperlike protector and the pen tips 2. I started off using the slip on pen tips and backed the kickstarter for the pen tips 2. With a (now slightly worn, but crucially, not scratched because of the soft tips) paperlike and the soft pen tips 2, the tips wear through pretty quick. I’m down to my last one after using them on maybe a total of 10 pieces.
    Now, I push real hard when I draw, and the folks at pen tips seem like they made the hard version just for me so I pre-ordered those. They just shipped last week so I haven’t gotten them yet, but if they last a long time, and as Brad says, if the hard ones feel just like the soft ones, I’m a life long pen tips customer. It just feels amazing to draw with for me. Pen tips + paperlike is an unparalleled drawing experience in my view.

    • @Polytopiagod
      @Polytopiagod 9 месяцев назад

      paper like is terrible, the quality decreases so hard

  • @StyngRay1
    @StyngRay1 Месяц назад

    Thanks ! Great information ! In my view the bersam original screen protector is the best I have used ! It has the right amount of roughness for the pen. Any smoother and the writing begins to worsen .
    I wanted to ask if there is a pen tip or a writing/note taking app that gives a person better handwriting or just optimizes a persons unique handwriting just slightly?

  • @slartybartfast6868
    @slartybartfast6868 Год назад +1

    Good show, really liked it. What screen protector do you use. That could help me alot! Thanks Brad.

  • @rabbitsandphilodendron
    @rabbitsandphilodendron Год назад +42

    I'd really love to see you try out those pen nibs with a small metal tip ontop (those which makes it look like a mechanical pencil basically). I've seen those around for art a lot because it makes the nib more precise but I'm worried about the performance

    • @ellegilyard1348
      @ellegilyard1348 Год назад +1

      I use those. I love them.

    • @michaela984
      @michaela984 Год назад +6

      I use one in combination with a paper screen protector. Absolutely recommend

    • @SalivaYOUTUBE
      @SalivaYOUTUBE Год назад +5

      I don't like them, I've tried a few different models and it seems to tank the tip taking accuracy and make lines squiggly

    • @user-yv6xw7ns3o
      @user-yv6xw7ns3o Год назад

      ​@@SalivaRUclips I've found some brands are wobbly and some work very well. The ones I got that work well are out of stock now though 😢

    • @roofoofighter
      @roofoofighter Год назад +2

      Won’t that scratch the glass?

  • @TheProductCritiques
    @TheProductCritiques Год назад +8

    Thanks for the review! Upgrading the tips for the Apple Pencil is such a simple yet effective way to enhance the drawing and writing experience. Your detailed review and demonstration have provided valuable insights into the quality and compatibility of these tips. It's always great to have options for personalizing the feel of the Pencil. This product is now on my list for consideration, thanks to your recommendation!

  • @IaconDawnshire
    @IaconDawnshire 5 месяцев назад

    Got the pen tips 2 and I don't know what's with them but I have the Spiegan paper like protector and I don't have that paper sensation with these things on compares to Apple's default tips. After I'm done wit these I'll probably go back to using Apple's

  • @kwallyg
    @kwallyg 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the honest review

  • @imspinningfree
    @imspinningfree Год назад +11

    I've never seen my iPad screen without the paperlike because I installed it before turning it on. I do still find the screen still quite firm to draw and write on vs my Huion, which is a much softer surface. Might be interesting to try a softer tip... But $50 is a bit steep.

    • @razrv3lc
      @razrv3lc 11 месяцев назад

      I recommend never looking at it with it off then. It will 100% ruin using screen protectors for you.

    • @kartikeyanshankar3123
      @kartikeyanshankar3123 10 месяцев назад

      Hey so I have a matte screen protector too. I got my iPad in mid November (1.5 months ago) and used the protector however my pencil tip is already worn and slightly deformed. How do you deal with the wear? Metal or silicone tips or what?

  • @myunzii302
    @myunzii302 Год назад +10

    The best thing I've found for drawing on bare glass is a felt nib. I have both an ipad pro and samsung tab s8 ultra - and on the latter I use a Wacom One Pen with one of the felt nibs for the Pro Pen 2. It's the closest to natural feeling on bare glass that I've found - definitely better than any rubber nib. That said, much like Brad's preference, nothing quite matches the feeling of drawing with a harder nib on a textured or etched glass surface. Most recently I've actually been using these titanium alloy nibs on my Wacom Pro Pen 2 - I got sick of replacing the nibs and they feel really similar to a ballpoint pen on a textured surface
    !

    • @Qwesesss
      @Qwesesss Год назад +2

      Hi, i didn’t know if any felt nibs were available for apple pencil. May i ask where you can purchase such a felt tip?

    • @nanelikahya9949
      @nanelikahya9949 Год назад +1

      Can you share a link for the mentioned products?

  • @Greatbylook
    @Greatbylook Год назад

    Try the new one plus pad? Is it good or worthed? Their pressure sensitive pen looks interesting

  • @thelion9976
    @thelion9976 Год назад +4

    Wow! Literally when I was looking at buying some you put this out!!! Thanks Brad!!

  • @MojoMan49
    @MojoMan49 Год назад

    Brad, based on your review of the Pen Mat I have ordered one and am confident it will deliver what I have long wanted.

  • @isleofartistica1068
    @isleofartistica1068 Год назад

    I’ve had these since they came out, they broke within a day. They’re sending me a free replacement one though so i guess that’s nice. I loved using it for as long as it did work though!

  • @jacobvig0
    @jacobvig0 Год назад

    I also have the mat, but find that the magnets don’t match my iPad Pro. I guess the cut out should be for the front camera so it doesn’t block Face ID? But it feels more stable and lines better the other way

  • @MattHalpain
    @MattHalpain Год назад

    Great informative demo and review of these pen tips for the Apple Pencil. I have an iPad.

  • @Darth_noot
    @Darth_noot Месяц назад

    What should you buy for paperlike drawing experience? a pen nib or a screen protector?

  • @eif6051
    @eif6051 Год назад +5

    i"m glad that I am in the weird niche that actually prefers the original experience of the apple pencil on the smooth glass, saves a lot of hassle and money on add-ons.

  • @tristen_grant
    @tristen_grant Год назад +1

    I haven't finished the video yet but, will you do a review after a few months? Maybe they feel better/different over time?

  • @Poi-ul4lr
    @Poi-ul4lr 9 месяцев назад

    I bought the pen tips 2 and all three wore off in a few days of use, paid $50. Yeah that was a waste. I also tried a paperlike but it makes the screen rainbow-y and gets filled with scratches after a couple weeks. I might try the removable magnetic protector but rn the rubber pen tips have been working pretty well for me. You just have to get used to them and you can draw without sacrificing any of the screen quality.

  • @tanujsingh9747
    @tanujsingh9747 Год назад +3

    Please make a review of those metallic pen tips. They look like they will last longer than any plastic tip and due to thin end they also looks to be a little precise.
    There aren’t many reviews of those on RUclips so please give you take on those.

    • @abcdefg-hv2ks
      @abcdefg-hv2ks Год назад +2

      From what I've heard, they tend to leave scratches on your screen if you press too hard, personally I haven't used them to idk for sure.

  • @JonathanPriceArt
    @JonathanPriceArt Год назад +1

    I tried a magnetic screen protector and while I didn't mind the duller colors, the textured feel was a bridge too far for me. It felt way too rough. I'm actually fine with drawing with the stock Apple Pencil tip on hard glass, but since my last one got scratched, I'm now looking into softer tips for the Pencil. I'm not about to pay $50 for them though...so I'm looking into other brands.

  • @dheemantjoshi8303
    @dheemantjoshi8303 Год назад +1

    Hi Brad! This new one plus pad is coming out with an apple pencil like stylus. Would love to hear your thoughts on it in a video!

  • @repeataftermeme75
    @repeataftermeme75 Год назад +8

    A set of three for 50 bucks is really steep. Ppl may not be the biggest fan of apples pen tips, but they ship and arrive super fast, cost 20 bucks and you get four. I’d say comparing those things alone, Apple still has pen tips 2 beat. For 50 bucks, give me 5 pen tips at the least and free shipping. Then reviews consider the soft tips for illustrations are still going to wear out faster than apples own tips. Where’s the deal?

  • @shocknawe
    @shocknawe Год назад +1

    There are tips on Alexrpss that cost a quarter or less of the price for even more tips.
    They feel like putting on a Paperlike without the diffusion.
    I highly recommend people go for those rather than these.
    I don’t mean to call these bad (haven’t tried them), but the cost to benefit ratio doesn’t sit right with me.

  • @Starrtini
    @Starrtini Год назад +2

    Thank you so much for this review. I have the same feelings as you about drawing on the glass (especially since my hands are shaky) and I bought the Pen Tips Lite version back in December and I was unhappy with those for the same reasons you were. So I’ve been considering the Pen Tips 2, but I was hesitant because of the price 😅
    So I’ll just stay with original pen on glass for now, since I’m one of those people who wants to see the bright colors! And I get to save money 😁
    Will you do another review on the new Fiber tips once they come out?

    • @sereniteav
      @sereniteav 8 месяцев назад

      is original apple pencil on glass screen protector comfortable to draw with? im getting an apple pencil and i already have a screen protector so im hesitant to buy a new one when this one is perfectly fine
      i was also thinking of buying the silicone tips but idk

  • @kuraihiroma
    @kuraihiroma Год назад +4

    as someone who prefers dull screens i don't mind my screen protector haha. honestly it's been a great investment, it was like $18 for a two pack and there have barely been any markings made in the past 7 months

  • @experiencelifelittleone
    @experiencelifelittleone 5 месяцев назад

    Can you make a review for pentips new screen protector? The one with the new technology thats not magnetic

  • @CWARrated
    @CWARrated Год назад +9

    Not gonna lie...using the apple pencil on the glass doesn't bother me. I do half my work in traditional and half in digital, so I get to enjoy the benefits of both. I enjoy your reviews though

  • @taxineil1
    @taxineil1 Год назад +1

    I have very shakey hands and I find the rubbery type tips help.

  • @dariodariodario
    @dariodariodario 11 месяцев назад

    hey hey, thank you for the video!. one question: do the tips actually screw on? it looks like you just put them on without screwing. thank you

  • @TommiCat
    @TommiCat Год назад

    I liked using the black tips, although I had my Apple pencil disconnect from the iPad twice while using it. Not sure if it is the tip's fault.

  • @Smuthole
    @Smuthole Год назад

    So i just bought the 2022 ipad pro m2 with pencil 2 and I haven't bought tips or a protector. And I'm a beginner. What should I go for ? I just get more confused for every youtube video I watch on this subject. Good thing is I'm a total beginner, so I cant say I prefer this or that, so whats BEST for a beginner without any preferences?

  • @angel19966991
    @angel19966991 Год назад +1

    I've been waiting for this review for a while. Thanks for the review I was really considering buying them. But I think I'll stick with a screen protector for now

  • @chaosordeal294
    @chaosordeal294 Год назад +8

    You could fit 50-100 tips in that box, but they give you three?!! for fifty bucks??!! [profanity] off.

  • @krypt2k25
    @krypt2k25 Год назад

    bro also try the one plus tablet when it is launched i want to see if its any good i desperately dont want to use or enter apple ecosystem but up till now i feel like i need to

  • @Kimyoski
    @Kimyoski Год назад +1

    Man i would like to see your animations They look great😅

  • @notplumyboi
    @notplumyboi 2 месяца назад

    Do the pentips 2 get destroyed while using it with a “paper feel” screenprotector?

  • @BlackScream77
    @BlackScream77 Год назад +2

    How would you compare these pen tips to something like the spen on the samsung tablets? i know the spen has a more firm silicon tip with a small bit of felt, are these similar in feel or a lot more rubbery?

    • @ace9848
      @ace9848 Год назад

      More rubbery

  • @saragrauso9904
    @saragrauso9904 7 месяцев назад

    What about using the screen protector and the pen tips?

  • @loverrlee
    @loverrlee Год назад +1

    Does anyone know if you can draw with both the screen protector and the tips? Just curious.

  • @agilix_
    @agilix_ Год назад +3

    My first 3 died just after a few hours of sketching each time. I got free replacement and gave them to friends and all 3 had the same issue, died after couple hours. We all went with paperlike

    • @kartikeyanshankar3123
      @kartikeyanshankar3123 10 месяцев назад

      How do you deal with the wear. My tip has worn out in 1.5 months with a matte protector. Do you use meta” or silicone tips or what?

    • @agilix_
      @agilix_ 10 месяцев назад

      @@kartikeyanshankar3123 I checked, none of us has any issues with our tips and we're using paper like for a year now. Are you sure you aren't pushing too hard?

  • @VinceKirkVang
    @VinceKirkVang Год назад

    Hey Brad, Could you test out the pen for the oneplus tablet?

  • @h1a8
    @h1a8 5 месяцев назад

    Are there any tips that give a very similar experience to writing with the spen on galaxy tab s8/9 series?

  • @JamesWilliam70
    @JamesWilliam70 6 месяцев назад +2

    I don’t think I’d bother at that price. It would be a different story if they gave the pencil/paper experience though.

  • @kaskalo2
    @kaskalo2 Год назад

    Do you plan to review oneplus tablet? I wonder what's it like for drawing

  • @7verse
    @7verse Год назад +1

    Update your website, love to see some new data.😁

  • @MeshJedi
    @MeshJedi Год назад

    What the best matte screenprotector that's available internationally ?
    I have tried paperlike(2) and the first of the two pack I messed up the installation so I removed most of the matte... the second I sintalled perfectly, and it really didn't feel like it added anything to the feel of the screen and it wore down REALLY quickly.

  • @algepaca
    @algepaca Год назад

    I mostly use my iPad for annotating PDFs in GoodNotes. I absolutely have use both a Paperlike AND Pentips to get neat handwriting. For drawing I take the Pentip off. I don't really like the residue that the tips leave on the screen, but I guess it's a small price to pay for proper handwriting.
    Sadly the regular pentips interfere with those silicone sleeves that you can put on the Apple Pencil to make it more comfortable to hold. It looks like that wouldn't be a problem with the new ones. I would really like to test the hard version of the new pentips, but it's a little bit difficult to justify spending like 50 bucks on tiny rubber tips 😅

  • @ozgexan
    @ozgexan Год назад

    Would love to see a review of “PenTips Ink”

  • @dukeyvee
    @dukeyvee 11 месяцев назад

    does any company make hard felt tips like the wacom pen nibs

  • @bitesizeart6054
    @bitesizeart6054 Год назад

    hi Brad, what screen protector is that? is it matte?

  • @athaosand
    @athaosand 8 месяцев назад +3

    $50 ?!?!?! HUH?!?! 😦

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 5 месяцев назад

    I just wanted a pen tip that''s not so large and thick, like well.. tbh most other tablets from samsung or even e-ink ones. I don't have my ipad anymore tho.

  • @yamapishy9792
    @yamapishy9792 Год назад +2

    i think what majority of us artists want is a fine tip apple pencil. I love my apple pencil but the tip is just too thick.

  • @dennisthebrony2022
    @dennisthebrony2022 Год назад

    Bowser, yes, from the movie!!!!!

  • @kevinsturges6957
    @kevinsturges6957 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you. You just saved me $50.

  • @charlesrobillard190
    @charlesrobillard190 Год назад +8

    $50 lmfaoooo okay.

    • @terribletimes902
      @terribletimes902 Год назад

      The regular Apple ones are $10 per tip so these are nearly $7 more expensive… then again I wonder why no one has done this before. I always thought different texture tips would be way better than those rubber ones you put over the pencil tip

  • @naevis3577
    @naevis3577 Год назад

    Guys my paperlike screenprotector damaging my tips what i have to do?

  • @JustCRANEthesedays
    @JustCRANEthesedays Год назад

    Brad. Please test the new oneplus pad

  • @darthshyam300
    @darthshyam300 Год назад

    I prefer the regular screen. I’ve gone through way too many screen protectors and they’re just a hassle

  • @tusharkadam4390
    @tusharkadam4390 Год назад

    is it possible to change tips of s pen

  • @FireMunki63
    @FireMunki63 13 дней назад +1

    I’ve worked out that American artists are tight. Pencils ink pens paper, etc… all cost money constantly. $50 is just part of your over head like hardware and software.
    Also we are individuals people, what works for one doesn’t for another.
    I can’t believe that rather than take any positives away from this and purchase with these on display experience in mind so many actually hand over all experience and choice to a remote third party. Amazing.
    In this day and age $50 a month would not be a ridiculous overhead cost.

  • @mo_4484
    @mo_4484 Год назад

    Anything to help Samsung users to get that paper-like feel?

  • @mohankrishna1131
    @mohankrishna1131 Год назад

    Pls review OnePlus tab and stylo

  • @frostreaper1607
    @frostreaper1607 Год назад +1

    Wish there was a version of that magnetic screen protector for the Tab S8 Ultra, I dislike the effect and it basically ruins watching movies.

  • @izoong
    @izoong Год назад

    Since the first iPad Pro, I've manage to draw with nothing but the pencil. And now I'm comfy with the glossy felling of it. So no need of screen like paper or special tip. Lucky me. Well there is a downside. Now I don't like to much the feeling of natural pen and paper to draw.

  • @ritaaleman4166
    @ritaaleman4166 Год назад

    Need use silicone tips. Great

  • @inknpaintCW
    @inknpaintCW Год назад

    Yup.

  • @ion-shivs
    @ion-shivs Год назад +1

    The problem with the "soft" Pen Tips 2 is that they literally wear through within an hour or two of use. They're way too soft. Unless you have a very delicate hand.

  • @JMulvy
    @JMulvy Год назад +2

    I spent a couple hundred dollars trying so many nibs, brands, styles, plastics, as of late and I gotta say after all my 'research' Apple really picked an ideal nib for their pencil. Some of the hard plastic nibs out there are not hard enough and been known to shatter if dropped when they land on the nib. I tried all the various forms of the metal nibs too and as much as I liked them, the novelty wore off and I was longing for the original nib (no they cannot scratch an unprotected screen, it is scientifically impossible according to the Mohs Hardness Scale). I did not like ANY of the rubber nibs out there what so ever. Much like Brad, I will be sticking with my original nibs and matte screen protector, but mine is from iCarez.

  • @mayanksharma6342
    @mayanksharma6342 Год назад

    Please do a review of OnePlus tab 😭😭🙏🙏🙏

  • @BLNKT.
    @BLNKT. 4 месяца назад

    $50 is wild for 3 tips not even apple charges that

  • @gwennz1
    @gwennz1 Год назад

    You said hard tips first but you had the soft tip on your pencil

  • @CHUNKYNUGGET666
    @CHUNKYNUGGET666 Год назад

    The packaging would cost more than the tips.. zero points for waste packaging👍

  • @kindasport
    @kindasport Год назад

    I personally would like the tips more than a screen protector à la paperlike. Also because the paperlike comes with bubbles between protector and screen for sure.. But the price tag is really a killer for me (!) So I also might go with a magnetic protector screen. I'm anyway using the iPad more for writing than for drawing.

  • @MrEnoch-dy4tg
    @MrEnoch-dy4tg Год назад

    I’m using screen protector I cannot draw without it but my problem is I haven’t seen my real colours in 3 years 😂 so maybe I’ll buy magnetic one

  • @philippestucki3415
    @philippestucki3415 Год назад

    All my 3 nibs broke down within a day. Got a refund, still pretty disappointing.

  • @i3lia7mad
    @i3lia7mad 6 месяцев назад +1

    $50!!!?

  • @FIZZY-5
    @FIZZY-5 Год назад

    Hi

  • @ssantimov
    @ssantimov Год назад +2

    A bare screen + microfiber wipe still is the best choice for me.

  • @XcaliburReborn
    @XcaliburReborn Год назад

    if theyd just make s-pen nibs for the apple pencil everything would be solved

  • @LeeroyGoldmane
    @LeeroyGoldmane 8 месяцев назад

    Hmm wonder if I should spend money on this

  • @TheNets
    @TheNets Год назад +1

    I didn't like the ads. No donuts.

  • @frendobendo4433
    @frendobendo4433 Год назад

    I wonder if anyone had a good experience with these I backed the kickstarter and had about the same experience as everyone else of the tips failing within hours. Thats the reason why the "hard" version exists, because the original version is going to wear out for you soon.... Anything with apple sucks it seems like. The product and software creators being condescending and dismissive of user feedback.(Procreate cough cough).

  • @uncaringbear
    @uncaringbear Год назад

    $50 for three tips? Third party vendors charge the Apple tax too.

  • @Artofizanagi
    @Artofizanagi Год назад

    Wake up honey a new Brad video just came out.

  • @DadBodDrumming
    @DadBodDrumming Год назад

    $50! yikes
    Apple Fan Bois will still by them though.

  • @Amanda-po9xe
    @Amanda-po9xe Год назад

    Wait have you changed your username..? I have always thought your name was Brad Cowboy 🤠😅🤦‍♀️

  • @anastasiasucha
    @anastasiasucha Год назад

    1

  • @Zuion_Art
    @Zuion_Art Год назад

    Damm

  • @papolone
    @papolone Год назад

    I’ve try them. They wear almost in a day revealing the metal nib inside that is not safe for the iPad glass… So for me they are useless and just a joke for that price…