@@alexanderthegreat-mx5zuthe damage you can do to your brain through activities that induce dopamine release can be catastrophic, actually, Rewiring your mind in very unfortunate ways. It may sound nice to be hyper sensitive and capable of multiple orgasms, but everything becomes a little more grey and less exciting as well as requiring more dopamine to feel good.
As a recovering addict/gooner; I cannot stress how dangerous this activity is and it is the literal manifestation of loneliness and trauma. It’s a miracle the fact that I’m still alive today when I should be dead from a drug overdose. Everything Dr K has said here is true and relatable. Please go get therapy, find a hobby that gives you purpose over porn, stay close to the people that love you and be patient in finding love and be your damn best self. 1 month in and I feel incredible (not perfect). The loneliness can get you but you just have to sit with it instead of using an unhealthy coping mechanism. No Fap is bullshit, climax when you need to but just delete all the porn. I don’t have a GF yet but dating is a trash dump anyway. I swear to god it’s worth it. Just fucking do it. I love you, we all love you ❤❤❤
No fap is not bullshit, reaccess trying it, it will change your life. If you want a girlfriend, hop onto Nofap/Semen Retention and I promise that if you transmute the sexual energy into exercise and progress in your life, you will have a girlfriend in a few short months. Or don't listen to me and cope that it's not real, doesnt affect my life mate!
As someone who has, unironically, been gooning since before it got so popular (something I am of course very proud of) it's been interesting to see how things like this can spread so rapidly. It's like I could see in real-time how this almost "mind-virus" went from some weird niche activity some people do, to a meme that at least on the internet a lot of people seem to know about at this point. I actually do appreciate this video though, as one of the first pieces of content I've seen that talk about the topic in a relatively serious manner, because it's interesting and I think it's good to have some understanding of how things actually work. With that being said, while I think the video does a good job talking about the basics of gooning, as someone who has a shameful amount of experience with this, I'd like to add some "insider info" so to speak. Disclaimer: This might be a bit too explicit for some people so proceed with caution. And it's also not my intention to shame anyone. I don't think anyone benefits from shaming. I'd just like to talk about this stuff openly. Of course I can't speak for other people, but when it comes to my sexuality and in particular things like gooning, I feel like there is a certain sense of "self-destruction" or "self-sabotage" involved. I think a lot of people know that things like gooning and excessive porn consumption can have negative effects on your mind, body and life in general and that is exactly the reason or one of the reasons they do it. Some people not only WANT to get addicted, but actually fetishize this addiction and so it creates this self-feeding cycle. To take things even further, there are already a lot of communities on for example Reddit, where people actually encourage each other to "get worse" and feed each other's addictions. "Gooning encouragement" is actually a category of porn now. There is a subreddit for people who smoke weed while gooning. One of the most interesting things to me though, is a subreddit called r/pornrelapsed, because not only do people here encourage each other's addictions and "relapsing", but people actually seem to post on there pretending like they want to quit, just so other people can be like "don't quit, stay addicted!". It's almost like a sexual roleplay, like "Nooooo, please don't handcuff me, officer!", while obviously wanting to be handcuffed. Honestly it's a whole rabbit hole that I could talk about for a while. I think it's kind of fascinating, even if perhaps a bit sad or dystopian. It feels like there's a big part of the internet that is almost like a black hole of hedonism, even just in terms of sexual content, let alone in general. Our brains really aren't meant to deal with this stuff, yet we're doing it to ourselves and to each other, because at the end of the day we're still just fancy monkeys in a sense. Anyway, thanks for everything you do Dr. K (and your team of course). The amount of good you're doing for the world right now can't be understated. I'd almost go as far as to say you deserve some noble prize, no kidding. Take care yall.
"dystopian" gives off the energy that you're glorifying gooning. I hope it hasn't affected your life negativity and you have healthy coping mechanisms ❤
Man. I'm starting to hate the internet. I'm old enough to remember that goons were basically armored thugs and hit men. You can't take this away from me!!!
"We're basically like a bunch of mice that are pushing the cocaine lever to get cocaine" - in his finest of words, this is Dr. K summing up edging y'all.
Couldn't the same be said of any sex for pleasure? Men generally put off, and are encouraged to put off orgasm, for the sake of improving sex and its role in the relationship for both parties.
This is so real. I’m a young male in his 20s and this is so relevent to so many of us. Pornography is a one trillion dollar industry globally. To make such a powerful stimulus free has so many dangers and harms, and only now are we seeing/experiencing them. Like how our parents were the guinea pigs for smoking (they used to allow smoking on airplanes!), we are the guinea pigs for online dopamine receptor fryers.
Eh idk, that sounds very hyperbolic and alarmist. It's really not all that different from the brothels that have been around since the dawn of civilization and gooning isn't even going to give you an STD
@@alexrogers777 brothels have always cost money…internet porn is free. There was historically a built-in limit to sex because only the ultra wealthy or ultra powerful had “unlimited” access.
I think he is saying that porn is accessible like never before online . Porn definitely has the capacity to destroy lives if you lose control. I once struggled but did finally got myself free of that temptation. I love woman but don’t see them with lust eyes anymore. Took years to overcome this but it was worth it.
@@alexrogers777 no way... scale and level of access are in a whole new realm. The process also bypasses actual human contact, however potentially transactional in nature.
Gooning is a symptom of something else. Often times it's loneliness, social rejection, depression... it's like overeating or playing games 24/7. But the edging part.. I don't know, I can't believe that edging hasn't been a thing before 4chan
Yeah, Tantric Sex is a thing. Also, I absolutely agree that Gooning is a symptom of those other things. If it's just tantric stamina training that's one thing, but the culture around it is a whole other can of worms.
humans exploiting their brain chemical releases have been a thing since ancient times, its not surprise, these practices have been so long practiced since the dawn of civilization, specially since the invention of agriculture, this is the root of many problems of the modern humans, from a hunter-gatherer to a sedentary being, its not natural yet it happens
@@Moon_Cupcake you dont agree because youre the spouse and you are physically there with him so you think he isnt alone. The signs are there. He is alone whether youre in the room or not. I say this from experience. 8 years with a girl. One of the worst feelings is being in the same room and feeling more alone than if she were gone. There is serious trauma relating to his desire to be away from physical women. That trauma most likely stems deep into early early childhood, but it could also be something a romantic partner did to him be like cheating. Thats for him to figure out with a therapist or the plethora of educated and medically licensed RUclips content creators. So many resources out there hes just gotta burn himself out and run his course with that crap then his world should brighten up a bit.
Dr K. Ive said it before and I know for a fact im gonna say it again. The service you provide for this community is completely priceless. Brain Rot may be mainly a meme now, but without the right guidance itll run riot in peoples lives and young men need a rational and balanced source like this from which to learn and mature their opinions. Its nice to have hope for once, so thank you!
@@SomeGuyWithAFace9 to be fair, if there’s ppl who watch these videos and troll. Then they’re the same ppl he’s talking about, the same ppl with these problems. So the irony plays off when ppl do shit like that 😹
While this video is great, as it's the first scientific breakdown of the subject the internet has really seen, I feel it didn't even scratch the surface of what gooning really is. I think it completely overlooked the aspect of addiction and the role that it plays. Gooning is basically the depths of how far extreme porn addiction can go. If you were to look into any of the gooning communities where p*rn is being shared, you would see that the main driving force is the fetishization of p*rn addiction. These people get off on the idea of pushing each other deeper into the addiction and will make p*rn captions encouraging each other to be proud of their addiction and it makes gooning a very dangerous "self-harm" feedback loop. It's not like these people want to be doing it, they just can't help themselves and the constant re-enforcement of other people trying to push them deeper doesn't help either. All this to say, that this isn't a problem of people being uneducated on the dangers of gooning, like it's just an unhealthy habit or something; these people know what they're doing. This is a problem of extreme porn addiction that is increasingly leaching onto young men at a rate that we haven't seen before and the culture around it making it almost impossible to escape. I hope you see this Dr. K even though that is unlikely, or at least some commenters see it who can then prompt discussion. Sincerely, - A Gooner
I Agree. The discord servers can be quite toxic and addicting in a dangerous way. However it is fun to responsibly play with. The exhibitionism combined with crossdressing in public discord cam channels is really fun and min-maxes the pleasure like Dr. K says. I treat it like alcohol. Sometimes i can enjoy a bottle by myself if i have earned it, and sometimes i can take some hours for a gooning sesh. And just like i pay some more money when i treat myself to some good whiskey, i got myself some fun toys and discovered what i like and scratches my itch. I've read reviews, tried different things, maybe not whiskey but gin, and swap exhibitionism with chastity. Change it up and enjoy it from time to time. Its a hobby that can turn into an addiction, or it can be something nice to enjoy and learn more about. I recently started simracing, and boy thats a hobby that can cost a lot of time and money quickly, but is soo much fun. Its less addictive, but i still have to treat it responsibly. More research and understanding is always better! Explore the impact and good ways to describe it and recognize the danger.
can you blame a normal person for having no real way of viewing into our depraved, dark world? i think he got a few glimpses of the void while doing his prelim exploration/research and realized that the scope of their first lesson should stay at the surface level.
So when miley says i can love me better than you can its empowering. But when i edge in the goon cave 14 hours a day suddenly its *excessive* and *isolating behavior*
Important part to remember is that studies of that time really struggled with causation and effect. The "OG" onanists of that time resorted to masturbatory activities because they were deformed, had severe mental issues and were heavily undesirable by the society (which is honestly a feat, considering how much easier and integral it was to start a relationship back then). What we have now is considerably different when you look past the derogatory caricature of an "incel/gooner", because the society changed so much that it's super easy to fall in through the cracks and have bad experiences that leave you completely broken by the age of 25, regardless of your physiology.
1:33 "Hey y'all. If youre interested in applying the principles we discussed...: The transistion from talking about Gooning to the ad had me dead 💀 I'm ready to use Dr K's years of training as a Monk to elevate my Gooning.
Thanks for talking about this all jokes aside. With people already struggling with porn addictions, this whole gooning thing, while being a silly meme, is also a window into a group of people who are stuck in that cycle of abusing pornography despite the shame and loneliness that comes with using it compulsively. It can become a toxic cycle of almost relishing in rotting your brain despite the real consequences that come from it.
1. Surface level thinkers say that s*x is not bad since it directly serves an evolutionary purpose, but mastn is because it does not, and is "unnatural". Well, if is is possible, it is natural, and serves an indirect purpose. This is why we have dreams, and have played games since pre historic times. 2. Gooning is wrong, just like any extreme quantities which the system is not built to handle is wrong. But still, how do we know if prehistoric ancestors did this or not ? 3. From an economic sense, it is definitely stupid, since fulfilment is supposed to be a function of real attainment. In the future, humans should either artifically adapt their bodies to these things like gooning, or remove the s*x function altogether. Now we can do IVF, and s*x is just a distraction in developed economies. Until then, we just have to lust after victory.
I see it like alcohol. I can enjoy a glass from time to time, maybe have a bottle once a month. I cant be a raging alcoholic who drinks all the time because it will fuck with my life and could lead to fucking up my whole life. So goon responsibly and use science to min-max pleasure with calculus!
@@x.I.N.K.xwith current tech, I can only imagine our future being something just completely bonkers different. I mean we had peak era of video games, the cloud and internet, now we have AI sw and ev vehicles. Who knows what the next big thing will be.
it still not as bad as actual substance use, its just your biology tricking your brain to release dopamine, but at the same time, as this is free and can be done relatively easy, it can be addictive, just as food, just as anything that you enjoy, you will want more, the curse of dopamine and our biology
I can see the concern about people using edging as an excuse to avoid pursuing actual relationships, but that is a very specific scenario. It's like saying everyone who drinks alcohol will become addicted to it, which is not the case. Edging has always been around, it's just that it's getting more attention these days. But here's an alternative perspective for you to consider: I am someone who very much wants a partner and that sexual intimacy with another person. For various reasons I have not been able to gain this in my life. Currently I feel it's mostly due to not having met the right person. But in the meantime, is it not still important to satisfy my needs in as effective a way as possible? That seems healthy to me. As long as I still understand that the experience with a partner vs solo play is very different and important and worth pursuing, and isn't something I want to give up on, I don't see the problem with satisfying myself to the best of my ability in the meantime. Edging can be incredibly pleasurable and relaxing, and when you live with insane levels of stress and anxiety, that is a great means to help relax and decompress. I feel maybe you are a little biased because of not being very familiar with the activity yourself? Or perhaps personally not seeing the value or point of it, combined with perhaps a little hesitation or fear of it due to it being an unknown to you. Or if not unknown then simply not something you're super educated on. I don't mean that in an insulting way, I'm just making a suggestion/observation.
i swear in the 90s we had edging lmao. i guess the problem is we would go out after but now the kids can simply stay online and keep gooning. like is this more of a problem now?
Hey Dr. K. When I am running, my mind blow up everywhere. I hear hundreds of voices mixed, people talk to me, I see my painful childhood, random thoughts come, I become unconscious that I forget I am existing in the street, I go to hundreds of places (in my mind, all of this) and it is uncontrollable no matter how often I meditate and it is very very exhausting to death. Maybe this can be a topic to share in the future, maybe not.
The saddest part is that we remove ourselves more and more from the whole body experience with stuff like this. how does it feel to touch someone, to hold eachother, sharing pleasant and gentle connection etc.. it all gets swept away by aggressive explicit images/content, numbing us to what real intimacy could be.
A sadder thing might be that there's a website now that's been around maybe 5 or so years called cuddle comfort. People can make profiles and become professionals or at least "professionals". Most of them charge 100 dollars an hour to spoon. It's just spooning though unless the "pro" wants to change that. I had that a couple times and the woman traveled from hot crappy in the summer Sacramento to Santa Cruz. I offered she can live with me. I told her I'm employed and can play musical instruments. She said she is not looking for that kind of relationship right now, She wasn't young! Was like 35! LOTS of people aren't making that kind of money yet there aren't more than like 100 or maybe even 50 people doing it in the WHOLE UNITED STATES! It really is quite disturbing.
That's usually not the choice of the person relying on masturbation, nor something they miss. It's a societal issue that starts at youth, not an individual's issue.
As an aroace, who is content to live alone, this video hit pretty close to home. Ive basically been unintentionally min/maxing my entire life In fact, i didn't see any issues with this pbenomina until you mentioned the lonelyness epidemic. I basically never feel lonely And i'm content living without a partner, so the idea of accidentally training myself to be unsatisfied with 'traditional' sex really doesn't bother me
Someone help me quit fr. It’s destroying my life. It’s literally the worst addiction you could ever have. You want to stop, but at the same time you can’t because it’s way too good.
Yo I got you fam. Just remember that satisfaction is empty. If you only pursue satisfaction, you get nothing. Take the tantric route, since you love your vice so much. Reward yourself with it. You think it's good now, wait until it's a reward for accomplishing something truly meaningful in your life. THAT feels GOOD. If you get addicted to that, there's nowhere you can't lead yourself with that carrot, you feel? Addiction is nothing to be ashamed of, it's merely a disease, and it is 100% something you can beat (pun kinda intended). In a way, people are stupid not to lie in bed all day watching RUclips and porn; it's literally fucking miraculous, it's intoxicating. You shouldn't avoid these things cuz they're BAD, you literally need to avoid them because they're AWESOME. Make that awesomeness work FOR you instead of AGAINST you. Figure out what you truly value in life, you already know that it's more than just getting satisfaction which slips through your fingers the moment you put your vice aside. Ironically mere satisfaction is naturally the least satisfying thing. What you really want is FULFILLMENT. So make your addiction fulfilling, then it'll be even better. "I need to wake up early, get sunlight immediately, eat well, meditate, bust my ass on a workout" etc etc (whatever you can negotiate with yourself), and my reward is to fucking let loose. Eventually, if you keep following that formula, the fulfillment you are getting out of life will *simply outcompete* the temporary satisfaction of empty pleasure, and your addiction will take care of itself. Be encouraged! Pleasure is a fantastic part of life, but if you're really going to minmax it, you need the ingredients of a fulfilling life to go with it. Otherwise you're just drinking pure sugar, which just makes you sick and weak. Hopefully this helps bro, I believe in you, you got this for sure, stay encouraged. And frankly, don't worry about it, that's a waste of energy and turns toxic quickly. Instead, just decide what you truly want, and then work from where you are, and eventually you will find yourself beginning to align your practice of living closer with your own deeply-held values. No hedonistic satisfaction can compete with that kind of fulfillment, trust.
@@effjesse_ I can’t express enough how much this helped me just this morning; waking up and the first thing I wanted to do was watch p•rn. Instead I went to RUclips and saw that you responded, read it, and felt some semblance of relief. You have provided a point of view that I was somewhat familiar with, but lost sight of it due to falling too deep into the rabbit hole of Gooning. And now that you’ve reminded me, I have hope that I can change and be better. I want to wake up early and do all of the things you have stated above, as a matter of fact I’ve been on that routine in recent time, but again lost sight of my goals because of life stresses and falling too deep in the hole. I do think I’m in a spot in my life where I can take more initiative and actually try to make a change for myself. I’ve lost sooooo so much due to Gooning my life away, and upon reflection, it doesn’t feel great, not much to show for it except I can say I’m good at Gooning? But who really wants to say that right? 😓 Anyway, I truly appreciate your insight, i will be taking everything you said into consideration and I will be taking action to counteract this disease and hopefully overcome it. Thank you so so much bro, I mean it. 🙏🏾
@@effjesse_ RUclips sucks. I wrote out a long comment earlier but it probably got flagged by RUclipss dog$&@! AI. Anyway I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to give me insight that would actually help. Thank you very much.
I have a idea, im not doctor but, if you are having trouble whit onanism and cant perform daily normal activities, then just try put some hot sause in your hands, whatever happens next its all on your responsability
I HATE YOU GUYS I HAD A NIGHTMARE THAT I WAS TRAPPED IN ARGENTINA AND I COULDNT LEAVE AND I ALMOST HAD A PANIC ATTACK UPON WAKING UP AND THIS DOESNT HELP MY MENTAL HEALTH. CAN YOU ACTUALLY LEAVE ARGENTINA?
The core problem with the theory that "coping mechanisms are bad because they remove the need to depend on others" is that we've made ourselves a society where no one wants to be depended upon. We're expected to develop total independency before we even dare to try making friends, and those who don't, who seek relationships without being independent, are called manchildren or golddiggers or parasitic or promiscuous. But... the more independent you are, the less you desire relationships, and people hate it when you don't desire relationships - they think you're aloof, they can't help but perceive your independence as a commentary upon their dependence, and so we end up with therapists who come to the table with the default assumption that people need to be made more dependent to help them fit in better with everyone else, even though being dependent harms your chances of having successful relationships.
@@Dimitris_Half Nah individualism is fine in this particular case, note that Japan has the same problem despite being much more collectivist. The root of the issue is capitalism. Life is just too stressful these days, no one has any level of tolerance for other people's problems anymore because their patience is burned away by unfulfilling jobs and high cost of living.
@yurisei6732 No, individualism is the very problem. You said it rather nicely, nowadays we think that we can cover our social needs on our own. I don't need to go outside to find friends, I will go on reddit I don't need a girlfriend, I will just goon I don't need a sense of purpose, I will just eat pizzas and watch netflix alone all day
watching this now. feel like this will be helpful, definitely have engaged in gooning way too much recently. probably in some part due to stress? unhealthy way of coping? craving intimacy? looking forward to learning more
great video. I think I might try and limit myself more, maybe even go on a long spree and avoid it all. definitely wanna get more in touch with real intimacy and distance myself from the cocaine button
Not necessarily. Ever been to a restaurant? It too can be considered abusing your biology for pleasure. You don't fine dine because otherwise you'll starve.
Doctor. K I'm a student who is fascinated by Neuroscience so much and I just graduated high school this year, and I just wanna say that you're the fricking teacher I always ALWAYS dreamed of having, and your today's video explained everything I wanted to for so long researching about masturbation and stuff, THANK YOU SO DARN MUCH. it's cuz of people like you that we still have hope of not giving into stupidity
I don’t do that stuff anymore because I always feel SO intensely lonely the next day. It’s like my brain was happy to see these lovely women on the screen that appear to appreciate and trust me and then the next day it’s hoping to build on that loving relationship and they’re nowhere to be found.
5:10 That's fascinating because without context, we don't know if he's describing mentally disabled folks at a Sanitarium or a random guy off the street that he's observing. Considering masturbation was labelled an affliction, I'd wager he's observing a developmentally disabled person in a sanitarium/asylum. It's the 1830s.
There has been an internal struggle in the gooning community for many years so it’s great to see it burst onto the scene with a very fruitful conversation that really hits the head right on the money.
I honestly wonder how much of an effect infant circumcision has on this. Masturbation is natural, but if you have been desensitized and require a death grip because your glans has been keratinized and because you lack that key piece of lubricative skin, then it surely follows that you will have to adjust to it? It's already pretty well documented that circumcised men have to thrust harder during intercourse.
i think this merits a re-visit. you've missed a critical part of the subculture around this stuff, which is "captions", text posts, videos etc. that reinforce a fetishization of addiction, a fetishization of not being able to stop, of "getting worse" etc. - which turn it from just a dopamine hack into much more of a self-harm feedback loop. the majority of people into this engage with some amount of that content, at a minimum.
That’s a good point actually. When you go down the gooner rabbit hole you see that a lot of people are getting off on the idea that they are doing permanent damage to their mind lol.
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dr k didnt mention it specifically but its implied in the M in bdsm
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy! They start gooning coz they don’t get relationships, and then because this gooning satisfies them, they don’t go out and socialize and continue not to have a relationship!
Thanks for your take on this and I don't see this as a "weird" video at all. I'm not worried at all about the consequences of "gooning". Edging has been a thing for ages. Masturbation has been a thing for ages. Most humans have a desire to connect with other humans, and no form of masturbation is going to properly fill that desire. Some people may spend a large amount of time on "gooning" just like some people spend a large amount of time on video games. As I have aged, I have discovered an appreciation for imaginative artwork and storytelling in a good video game that is outside of what I experience in my daily life. Perhaps "gooning" can offer some people some novel pleasure, but I am not the least bit worried that young men and women are suddenly going to lose interest in connecting with one another because masturbation feels good.
It seems like even though most people at this point aren't religious anymore some religious ideas like "masturbation is bad" are still stuck in parts of our society (which is ironic because the bible literally doesn't even have one line where it talks about masturbating being bad) so it's fine if you do it quickly to get it over with but don't dare spend any more time than necessary on it to enjoy it more. But as you said objectively there's literally no difference between watching porn for 2 hours or playing a video game for 2 hours or watching a movie/show for 2 hours but for some reason porn is this disgusting dirty thing that's a waste of time and the other things are accepted.
@@lp4514 I really can't say much about pornography. Some people seem to believe from an entirely secular point of view that pornography is somehow uniquely harmful or overstimulating in a way that other habits and "vices" are not. I really can't relate personally because as a transgender woman, I have a very solid association in my mind between viewing pornography and experiencing painful gender dysphoria.
@@vivianriver6450 In my opinion it depends entirely on the individual, for some people it has a negative impact and for others it doesn't. At least that has been my own experience, I used to watch porn for probably 15 years, most of that time daily and sometimes for many hours (and it was never an addiction, I could at any point decide to not do it for many days or weeks) and it never had any negative impact at all, 2 hours of porn felt exactly the same as 2 hours of gaming, I would say it was actually healthier because I felt was more relaxed the rest of the day. Never felt overstimulated or tired, didn't affect the rest of my life at all. I stopped watching it a while ago (for "spiritual" reasons and to have more time for other things) and also now that I'm not doing it I don't feel any different or better compared to when I did watch it.
As a few other comments have metioned, this goes much deeper, and gets much darker. Fetishizing the addiction, intentionally making it worse and getting pleasure from it is a big part of gooning. It's sort of a self harm behavior, that gives you intense pleasure while doing it. When you are depressed, hate yourself, this is a very dangerous combination. You get to feel pleasure for a few hours, and you also scratch the self harm itch.
@@lp4514 Sorry, but I think you miss the point. Masturbation isn't bad, the stimulus used is bad. Most pornography is fake, mechanic and demeaning to women. I read somewhere that people who go down that rabbit hole far enough start to believe that women should behave like that in the bedroom. Also, nothing "normal" arouses you anymore because your brain is conditioned to superstimulus. It's definitely worse than a video game or a movie.
Gooning followed the loneliness epidemic. It's not that gooning will increase loneliness. There's really no lower for them to fall, since you can't have less than 0 partners.
That's not how loneliness works. Nor how gooning interracts with loneliness. They can and will feel more alone via gooning. They just won't be more alone.
yeah, i believe gooning, porn addiction etc are byproducts of the loneliness epidemic, very few people would go there if they werent experiencing societal fallout as i like to call it.
Opioid addiction is a consequence of overprescription from doctors, but that doesn't mean we should be okay with people moving to heroine because they've become addicted to opioids because of overprescription, either. It's a race to the bottom feedback loop, and you need to be able to stop it before your descent causes you to adopt habits that will speed up the descent to lower lows.
It would be interesting if this video touched on porn addiction too. Even touching on fetishes that can be damaged like financial dominance would be interesting.
"Min-maxing masturbation"
Never thought we would reach this threshold as a species. Truly inspiring.
the gooning meta shifts..
Aliens will be astonished as to what level we have achieved.
That and rule 34.
I read "min-maxing meditation" at first...
@@lotrand3880 Gotta get that stream entry and not post nut clarity
How is it inspiring to keep falling lower and lower below the threshold of acceptable human behavior?
I can't believe I just watched a psychological analysis on gooning
I can't believe I just gooned to a psychological analysis on gooning.
wait till u hear about freud
It's just masturbation,you make it sound like it's something ridiculous just because the word sounds silly.
I cant believe i was using gooning in a “wrong” way? I thought it was goon like a henchman. Im gooning (up to no good) didnt think it was this💀
@@alexanderthegreat-mx5zuthe damage you can do to your brain through activities that induce dopamine release can be catastrophic, actually, Rewiring your mind in very unfortunate ways. It may sound nice to be hyper sensitive and capable of multiple orgasms, but everything becomes a little more grey and less exciting as well as requiring more dopamine to feel good.
A few people cried, a few people laughed, most people were silent
love ur username
Most just gooned
@@gaben3512 I am become death grip, destroyer of shafts
@@jeremytitus9519 🙄🫣
gooning all over ohio only Tv woman can rizz my alpha male sus
Hearing Dr. K say “the gooning community” unironically is something that I never thought I’d ever hear in my entire lifetime
Nevertheless be apart of
Reddit has a community... I've had some dark times. But usually can be moderate about it.
At first i was like '"what's gooning?" and now I realize how blessed I was a few minutes ago when I didn't know yet
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Brain rot has made it to healthy gamer
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@@Kejaishdhejjsbshsbebegoona be*
Noooo way
Ur corny
When the gamer is no longer healthy
"So I decided to try out this gooning thing for myself. The results were fascinating."
im dead
did he actually say that?
Watch the video iPad kid
MKBHD: So I’ve been gooning for the past few months …
omfg
"The science of Gooning" i never thought i would hear this.
I never thought I’d see the calculus of gooning
@@freeottis take the derivative of gooning with respect to t
So... are you new, or..? ;P
NEVER GOON🔥🔥🔥
I find it weird that we are acting like gooning is a new thing. It's something you could find in porn communities for 10+ years
As a recovering addict/gooner; I cannot stress how dangerous this activity is and it is the literal manifestation of loneliness and trauma. It’s a miracle the fact that I’m still alive today when I should be dead from a drug overdose.
Everything Dr K has said here is true and relatable. Please go get therapy, find a hobby that gives you purpose over porn, stay close to the people that love you and be patient in finding love and be your damn best self. 1 month in and I feel incredible (not perfect). The loneliness can get you but you just have to sit with it instead of using an unhealthy coping mechanism.
No Fap is bullshit, climax when you need to but just delete all the porn. I don’t have a GF yet but dating is a trash dump anyway.
I swear to god it’s worth it. Just fucking do it. I love you, we all love you ❤❤❤
That was inspiring. Very relatable. Thank you!
you're min/maxxing hedonism dude?
No fap is not bullshit, reaccess trying it, it will change your life. If you want a girlfriend, hop onto Nofap/Semen Retention and I promise that if you transmute the sexual energy into exercise and progress in your life, you will have a girlfriend in a few short months. Or don't listen to me and cope that it's not real, doesnt affect my life mate!
I don't know you, but I am proud of you. I wish you healing in your endeavors,and the fortitude to feel things when they get tough
@@polpolaris it’s the new meta.
As someone who has, unironically, been gooning since before it got so popular (something I am of course very proud of) it's been interesting to see how things like this can spread so rapidly. It's like I could see in real-time how this almost "mind-virus" went from some weird niche activity some people do, to a meme that at least on the internet a lot of people seem to know about at this point.
I actually do appreciate this video though, as one of the first pieces of content I've seen that talk about the topic in a relatively serious manner, because it's interesting and I think it's good to have some understanding of how things actually work.
With that being said, while I think the video does a good job talking about the basics of gooning, as someone who has a shameful amount of experience with this, I'd like to add some "insider info" so to speak. Disclaimer: This might be a bit too explicit for some people so proceed with caution. And it's also not my intention to shame anyone. I don't think anyone benefits from shaming. I'd just like to talk about this stuff openly.
Of course I can't speak for other people, but when it comes to my sexuality and in particular things like gooning, I feel like there is a certain sense of "self-destruction" or "self-sabotage" involved. I think a lot of people know that things like gooning and excessive porn consumption can have negative effects on your mind, body and life in general and that is exactly the reason or one of the reasons they do it. Some people not only WANT to get addicted, but actually fetishize this addiction and so it creates this self-feeding cycle.
To take things even further, there are already a lot of communities on for example Reddit, where people actually encourage each other to "get worse" and feed each other's addictions. "Gooning encouragement" is actually a category of porn now. There is a subreddit for people who smoke weed while gooning. One of the most interesting things to me though, is a subreddit called r/pornrelapsed, because not only do people here encourage each other's addictions and "relapsing", but people actually seem to post on there pretending like they want to quit, just so other people can be like "don't quit, stay addicted!". It's almost like a sexual roleplay, like "Nooooo, please don't handcuff me, officer!", while obviously wanting to be handcuffed.
Honestly it's a whole rabbit hole that I could talk about for a while. I think it's kind of fascinating, even if perhaps a bit sad or dystopian. It feels like there's a big part of the internet that is almost like a black hole of hedonism, even just in terms of sexual content, let alone in general. Our brains really aren't meant to deal with this stuff, yet we're doing it to ourselves and to each other, because at the end of the day we're still just fancy monkeys in a sense.
Anyway, thanks for everything you do Dr. K (and your team of course). The amount of good you're doing for the world right now can't be understated. I'd almost go as far as to say you deserve some noble prize, no kidding.
Take care yall.
@ebunny1652 2 likes man and ya wrote an essay. I feel for ya man
Get a life
@Dimitris_Half I feel pathetic for commenting back on this but uhhhhh No u. Mr 2 page essay
@@kingsleyshewchuk1519 I wasn't referring to you 😅
"dystopian" gives off the energy that you're glorifying gooning. I hope it hasn't affected your life negativity and you have healthy coping mechanisms ❤
Man. I'm starting to hate the internet. I'm old enough to remember that goons were basically armored thugs and hit men. You can't take this away from me!!!
@@alexlewis5365 back when Skibidi was from the scat man
Or todays politicians 😂
And I'm a gooner. I was expecting a football video but hey, I'm a changed man after this.
Isn't "goon" a word for very cheap wine usually sold in bags in Australia? Never been there but heard about it from friends
I'm 38 and a goon will always mean something like "henchman" to me lol
The gooning community in shambles after this one
He showed them the science, they'll grow more powerful!
GOON SQUAD
@@anoNEMOs
The min maxing will be off the charts after watching this
the gooning community is boutta level up after the goononomics was discovered by jeffy the puppet rizzed up livy dun skibidi toilet
"We're basically like a bunch of mice that are pushing the cocaine lever to get cocaine" - in his finest of words, this is Dr. K summing up edging y'all.
Shame I didn't know being a high mouse is this nice sooner.
quote is at 17:33
@@KhorumSbased
Stroking the lever 😂
Couldn't the same be said of any sex for pleasure? Men generally put off, and are encouraged to put off orgasm, for the sake of improving sex and its role in the relationship for both parties.
This is so real. I’m a young male in his 20s and this is so relevent to so many of us.
Pornography is a one trillion dollar industry globally.
To make such a powerful stimulus free has so many dangers and harms, and only now are we seeing/experiencing them.
Like how our parents were the guinea pigs for smoking (they used to allow smoking on airplanes!), we are the guinea pigs for online dopamine receptor fryers.
Eh idk, that sounds very hyperbolic and alarmist. It's really not all that different from the brothels that have been around since the dawn of civilization and gooning isn't even going to give you an STD
@@xAiiuRz exactly, spread the word among your bros and help them free their minds
@@alexrogers777 brothels have always cost money…internet porn is free. There was historically a built-in limit to sex because only the ultra wealthy or ultra powerful had “unlimited” access.
I think he is saying that porn is accessible like never before online . Porn definitely has the capacity to destroy lives if you lose control. I once struggled but did finally got myself free of that temptation. I love woman but don’t see them with lust eyes anymore. Took years to overcome this but it was worth it.
@@alexrogers777 no way... scale and level of access are in a whole new realm. The process also bypasses actual human contact, however potentially transactional in nature.
I don’t know how anyone made this video with such candor and sincerity and self awareness. Good on you.
We're min-maxing our mental health with this one 🗣🗣🗣
amen
Orgasm calculus is the last thing I was expecting to learn when I subscribed to this channel 💀
If I knew it was a thing, maybe I would have paid attention in precalc
@@blondequijoteprecum
Yeah, and in the literal sense, actual area under the curve...
@@birdbeakbeardneck3617looooooooool LOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!!! LMAOOOO KOLOLO OKEJDJDN
@@Hexanitrobenzene which one
We got Dr.K Gooning before GTA 6
we got GTA 6 before GTA 7
@@tom-ment-Capybara we also got gta 6 trailer before gta 6
We got gta 5 before gta 6
We got gta before Gta 6
We got GTA 4 before GTA 5 and 6, can you believe it?!
Gooning is a symptom of something else. Often times it's loneliness, social rejection, depression... it's like overeating or playing games 24/7. But the edging part.. I don't know, I can't believe that edging hasn't been a thing before 4chan
Yeah, Tantric Sex is a thing.
Also, I absolutely agree that Gooning is a symptom of those other things. If it's just tantric stamina training that's one thing, but the culture around it is a whole other can of worms.
humans exploiting their brain chemical releases have been a thing since ancient times, its not surprise, these practices have been so long practiced since the dawn of civilization, specially since the invention of agriculture, this is the root of many problems of the modern humans, from a hunter-gatherer to a sedentary being, its not natural yet it happens
@@Moon_Cupcake you dont agree because youre the spouse and you are physically there with him so you think he isnt alone. The signs are there. He is alone whether youre in the room or not. I say this from experience. 8 years with a girl. One of the worst feelings is being in the same room and feeling more alone than if she were gone. There is serious trauma relating to his desire to be away from physical women. That trauma most likely stems deep into early early childhood, but it could also be something a romantic partner did to him be like cheating. Thats for him to figure out with a therapist or the plethora of educated and medically licensed RUclips content creators. So many resources out there hes just gotta burn himself out and run his course with that crap then his world should brighten up a bit.
This was a thing long before the internet, but the technique was spread by word of mouth. Back when people used to talk about things.
Dr K. Ive said it before and I know for a fact im gonna say it again. The service you provide for this community is completely priceless. Brain Rot may be mainly a meme now, but without the right guidance itll run riot in peoples lives and young men need a rational and balanced source like this from which to learn and mature their opinions. Its nice to have hope for once, so thank you!
dr. K is the only person on this earth can start a civil conversation, educating his audience, warning the danger, explaining the science of gooning.
Nah
Sometimes i am wondering if i have failed in life and then something like this pops up and i feel like steve jobs.
Oh yeah 😎 😂
Yup
Dead?
Why?
@@Reality-Distortion Cause I’m not a gooner
22:46 he just puts these things on the internet for anyone to take out of context. brave man
it's joever
@@SomeGuyWithAFace9 to be fair, if there’s ppl who watch these videos and troll. Then they’re the same ppl he’s talking about, the same ppl with these problems. So the irony plays off when ppl do shit like that 😹
I can't believe this is a real video that exists. One hell of a timeline.
People meme about the topic, but this was a really informative video - this kind of trap is becoming easier to fall into, and knowledge is power.
Dr. K going "GOONER GOONER GOONER" is some thing thats gonna live rent free in my brain now
The real question is what do you feel about it?
Watch the internet make a gooner PMV based on just those words.
@@rudyzibar4136 He's calling a person from Oklahoma.
@@DraconianDeus:'(((
This is it. We got harvard-trained people analysing gooning. Truly a 2024 gamer moment
1600s gamer moments
2024 gooner moments
He's not harvard trained BTW, you can google this
While this video is great, as it's the first scientific breakdown of the subject the internet has really seen, I feel it didn't even scratch the surface of what gooning really is. I think it completely overlooked the aspect of addiction and the role that it plays. Gooning is basically the depths of how far extreme porn addiction can go. If you were to look into any of the gooning communities where p*rn is being shared, you would see that the main driving force is the fetishization of p*rn addiction. These people get off on the idea of pushing each other deeper into the addiction and will make p*rn captions encouraging each other to be proud of their addiction and it makes gooning a very dangerous "self-harm" feedback loop. It's not like these people want to be doing it, they just can't help themselves and the constant re-enforcement of other people trying to push them deeper doesn't help either. All this to say, that this isn't a problem of people being uneducated on the dangers of gooning, like it's just an unhealthy habit or something; these people know what they're doing. This is a problem of extreme porn addiction that is increasingly leaching onto young men at a rate that we haven't seen before and the culture around it making it almost impossible to escape. I hope you see this Dr. K even though that is unlikely, or at least some commenters see it who can then prompt discussion.
Sincerely,
- A Gooner
Absolutely, I was thinking the same thing. I hope Dr K makes more videos on this topic, maybe a viewer interview as well.
Definitely, you worded this very well. I hope there will be more awareness on this topic.
I Agree. The discord servers can be quite toxic and addicting in a dangerous way. However it is fun to responsibly play with. The exhibitionism combined with crossdressing in public discord cam channels is really fun and min-maxes the pleasure like Dr. K says. I treat it like alcohol. Sometimes i can enjoy a bottle by myself if i have earned it, and sometimes i can take some hours for a gooning sesh. And just like i pay some more money when i treat myself to some good whiskey, i got myself some fun toys and discovered what i like and scratches my itch. I've read reviews, tried different things, maybe not whiskey but gin, and swap exhibitionism with chastity. Change it up and enjoy it from time to time.
Its a hobby that can turn into an addiction, or it can be something nice to enjoy and learn more about. I recently started simracing, and boy thats a hobby that can cost a lot of time and money quickly, but is soo much fun. Its less addictive, but i still have to treat it responsibly.
More research and understanding is always better! Explore the impact and good ways to describe it and recognize the danger.
can you blame a normal person for having no real way of viewing into our depraved, dark world? i think he got a few glimpses of the void while doing his prelim exploration/research and realized that the scope of their first lesson should stay at the surface level.
🎯
So when miley says i can love me better than you can its empowering. But when i edge in the goon cave 14 hours a day suddenly its *excessive* and *isolating behavior*
Lmfao 😭
The irony is that we were gooned during this video with all of the buildup before actually diving into what the term means 😭
I'm gooning to this video, and nobody will stop me
Can I help, pwease? >w
@@Dolritto Nah, this is my solo mission, I don't need a goonette
Please do not
@@Apandahsfan Ofcourse You don't need a goonette, that's why I'm a dude, bro. uAu
@@Dolritto I don't need a goon buddy
3:37 Project Goonenberg
11:51 "Anon means bliss in sanskrit."
@@Dolritto ANAND *
@@satchitt Ok.
beat me to it
@@ubertrashcat LMAO
I wasn't expecting the 1800s medical text to actually describe gooners
I was shocked how accurate it was
It's almost as if we've had the answers to moral issues for thousands of years or something 💀
Important part to remember is that studies of that time really struggled with causation and effect. The "OG" onanists of that time resorted to masturbatory activities because they were deformed, had severe mental issues and were heavily undesirable by the society (which is honestly a feat, considering how much easier and integral it was to start a relationship back then).
What we have now is considerably different when you look past the derogatory caricature of an "incel/gooner", because the society changed so much that it's super easy to fall in through the cracks and have bad experiences that leave you completely broken by the age of 25, regardless of your physiology.
Literally described the coomer wojak in great detail, over 150 years before it was made
life is a circle; you gotta let it come back to you. and when it does, you will know what to do~
1:33 "Hey y'all. If youre interested in applying the principles we discussed...:
The transistion from talking about Gooning to the ad had me dead 💀
I'm ready to use Dr K's years of training as a Monk to elevate my Gooning.
Whether people like it or not, there is absolutely a spiritual aspect to this. You sense it after youv partake
Thanks for talking about this all jokes aside. With people already struggling with porn addictions, this whole gooning thing, while being a silly meme, is also a window into a group of people who are stuck in that cycle of abusing pornography despite the shame and loneliness that comes with using it compulsively. It can become a toxic cycle of almost relishing in rotting your brain despite the real consequences that come from it.
1. Surface level thinkers say that s*x is not bad since it directly serves an evolutionary purpose, but mastn is because it does not, and is "unnatural". Well, if is is possible, it is natural, and serves an indirect purpose. This is why we have dreams, and have played games since pre historic times.
2. Gooning is wrong, just like any extreme quantities which the system is not built to handle is wrong. But still, how do we know if prehistoric ancestors did this or not ?
3. From an economic sense, it is definitely stupid, since fulfilment is supposed to be a function of real attainment.
In the future, humans should either artifically adapt their bodies to these things like gooning, or remove the s*x function altogether. Now we can do IVF, and s*x is just a distraction in developed economies.
Until then, we just have to lust after victory.
@@curious_one1156 I truly wonder what one century of human development would look like , versus 10 billion years with lust involved.
I see it like alcohol. I can enjoy a glass from time to time, maybe have a bottle once a month. I cant be a raging alcoholic who drinks all the time because it will fuck with my life and could lead to fucking up my whole life. So goon responsibly and use science to min-max pleasure with calculus!
@@x.I.N.K.xwith current tech, I can only imagine our future being something just completely bonkers different. I mean we had peak era of video games, the cloud and internet, now we have AI sw and ev vehicles. Who knows what the next big thing will be.
it still not as bad as actual substance use, its just your biology tricking your brain to release dopamine, but at the same time, as this is free and can be done relatively easy, it can be addictive, just as food, just as anything that you enjoy, you will want more, the curse of dopamine and our biology
the timing of this video was ... interesting
Bro just crawled out the goon cave
he says as he wipes the mayo from his hands
Not very gigachad pfp of you
Just in time for goon september
@@skud1377 i also use my pfp to hide how much of a degenerate i’m
Dr. K is truly a goonologist
I would click like but it's 69 and should stay there HEY EVERYONE DON'T CLICK IT EITHER
Sargent of the Goon Platoon
I’m somewhat of a goonologist myself
we are the goon squad and we're coming to town. beep beep
Hearing this really nice man, who is enough of age to be my dad, speak in the manner of a gen z-er, is truly therapeutic in itself
I can see the concern about people using edging as an excuse to avoid pursuing actual relationships, but that is a very specific scenario. It's like saying everyone who drinks alcohol will become addicted to it, which is not the case. Edging has always been around, it's just that it's getting more attention these days. But here's an alternative perspective for you to consider: I am someone who very much wants a partner and that sexual intimacy with another person. For various reasons I have not been able to gain this in my life. Currently I feel it's mostly due to not having met the right person. But in the meantime, is it not still important to satisfy my needs in as effective a way as possible? That seems healthy to me. As long as I still understand that the experience with a partner vs solo play is very different and important and worth pursuing, and isn't something I want to give up on, I don't see the problem with satisfying myself to the best of my ability in the meantime. Edging can be incredibly pleasurable and relaxing, and when you live with insane levels of stress and anxiety, that is a great means to help relax and decompress. I feel maybe you are a little biased because of not being very familiar with the activity yourself? Or perhaps personally not seeing the value or point of it, combined with perhaps a little hesitation or fear of it due to it being an unknown to you. Or if not unknown then simply not something you're super educated on.
I don't mean that in an insulting way, I'm just making a suggestion/observation.
ludwig taught him what gooning is and now dr k is making a video on it
what a world we live in
I cant believe people have been jelqing since the 1600's. Truly an ancient remedy.
I was thinking that that description was exactly what jelqing is, and that is mind boggling to me
Does anyone know if it actually works? Asking for uhm.. a friend of course
i swear in the 90s we had edging lmao. i guess the problem is we would go out after but now the kids can simply stay online and keep gooning. like is this more of a problem now?
There's literally Egyptian paintings of it
@@TheAlgues It's a lot of work for 1-2cm of length. You can also get necrosis and ED from it lmao.
cant even goon in peace anymore
We know what you do at Night 😈
no idea what gooning was/is, never thought it's a need to know term. but yet RUclips think that I need to know this information
Hey Dr. K. When I am running, my mind blow up everywhere. I hear hundreds of voices mixed, people talk to me, I see my painful childhood, random thoughts come, I become unconscious that I forget I am existing in the street, I go to hundreds of places (in my mind, all of this) and it is uncontrollable no matter how often I meditate and it is very very exhausting to death.
Maybe this can be a topic to share in the future, maybe not.
I never expected to see calculus applied to gooning
this has been on the very top of my youtube feed for an hour now. i can't escape this video, i just have to watch it
The saddest part is that we remove ourselves more and more from the whole body experience with stuff like this.
how does it feel to touch someone, to hold eachother, sharing pleasant and gentle connection etc.. it all gets swept away by aggressive explicit images/content, numbing us to what real intimacy could be.
Sounds like stuff you usually do with your parents
A sadder thing might be that there's a website now that's been around maybe 5 or so years called cuddle comfort. People can make profiles and become professionals or at least "professionals". Most of them charge 100 dollars an hour to spoon. It's just spooning though unless the "pro" wants to change that. I had that a couple times and the woman traveled from hot crappy in the summer Sacramento to Santa Cruz. I offered she can live with me. I told her I'm employed and can play musical instruments. She said she is not looking for that kind of relationship right now, She wasn't young! Was like 35! LOTS of people aren't making that kind of money yet there aren't more than like 100 or maybe even 50 people doing it in the WHOLE UNITED STATES! It really is quite disturbing.
@@peachcobbler641 LOL WHAT
That's usually not the choice of the person relying on masturbation, nor something they miss. It's a societal issue that starts at youth, not an individual's issue.
It's hard to do when you're lonely lol. I didn't have my first kiss till 21 but I had been gooning for years beforehand
As an aroace, who is content to live alone, this video hit pretty close to home. Ive basically been unintentionally min/maxing my entire life
In fact, i didn't see any issues with this pbenomina until you mentioned the lonelyness epidemic. I basically never feel lonely
And i'm content living without a partner, so the idea of accidentally training myself to be unsatisfied with 'traditional' sex really doesn't bother me
Someone help me quit fr. It’s destroying my life. It’s literally the worst addiction you could ever have. You want to stop, but at the same time you can’t because it’s way too good.
Yo I got you fam. Just remember that satisfaction is empty. If you only pursue satisfaction, you get nothing.
Take the tantric route, since you love your vice so much. Reward yourself with it. You think it's good now, wait until it's a reward for accomplishing something truly meaningful in your life. THAT feels GOOD. If you get addicted to that, there's nowhere you can't lead yourself with that carrot, you feel? Addiction is nothing to be ashamed of, it's merely a disease, and it is 100% something you can beat (pun kinda intended). In a way, people are stupid not to lie in bed all day watching RUclips and porn; it's literally fucking miraculous, it's intoxicating. You shouldn't avoid these things cuz they're BAD, you literally need to avoid them because they're AWESOME. Make that awesomeness work FOR you instead of AGAINST you.
Figure out what you truly value in life, you already know that it's more than just getting satisfaction which slips through your fingers the moment you put your vice aside. Ironically mere satisfaction is naturally the least satisfying thing. What you really want is FULFILLMENT. So make your addiction fulfilling, then it'll be even better. "I need to wake up early, get sunlight immediately, eat well, meditate, bust my ass on a workout" etc etc (whatever you can negotiate with yourself), and my reward is to fucking let loose. Eventually, if you keep following that formula, the fulfillment you are getting out of life will *simply outcompete* the temporary satisfaction of empty pleasure, and your addiction will take care of itself.
Be encouraged! Pleasure is a fantastic part of life, but if you're really going to minmax it, you need the ingredients of a fulfilling life to go with it. Otherwise you're just drinking pure sugar, which just makes you sick and weak.
Hopefully this helps bro, I believe in you, you got this for sure, stay encouraged. And frankly, don't worry about it, that's a waste of energy and turns toxic quickly. Instead, just decide what you truly want, and then work from where you are, and eventually you will find yourself beginning to align your practice of living closer with your own deeply-held values. No hedonistic satisfaction can compete with that kind of fulfillment, trust.
@@effjesse_ I can’t express enough how much this helped me just this morning; waking up and the first thing I wanted to do was watch p•rn. Instead I went to RUclips and saw that you responded, read it, and felt some semblance of relief.
You have provided a point of view that I was somewhat familiar with, but lost sight of it due to falling too deep into the rabbit hole of Gooning. And now that you’ve reminded me, I have hope that I can change and be better.
I want to wake up early and do all of the things you have stated above, as a matter of fact I’ve been on that routine in recent time, but again lost sight of my goals because of life stresses and falling too deep in the hole.
I do think I’m in a spot in my life where I can take more initiative and actually try to make a change for myself. I’ve lost sooooo so much due to Gooning my life away, and upon reflection, it doesn’t feel great, not much to show for it except I can say I’m good at Gooning? But who really wants to say that right? 😓
Anyway, I truly appreciate your insight, i will be taking everything you said into consideration and I will be taking action to counteract this disease and hopefully overcome it. Thank you so so much bro, I mean it. 🙏🏾
@@effjesse_ RUclips sucks. I wrote out a long comment earlier but it probably got flagged by RUclipss dog$&@! AI. Anyway I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to give me insight that would actually help. Thank you very much.
@@kingmoonk thanks for saying so, and too bad about the comment, I would've been interested to read it.
I have a idea, im not doctor but, if you are having trouble whit onanism and cant perform daily normal activities, then just try put some hot sause in your hands, whatever happens next its all on your responsability
In Argentina we like to say "la entrada es gratis, la salida vemos."
"The entrance is free, we'll see about the exit."
“You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave”
I HATE YOU GUYS I HAD A NIGHTMARE THAT I WAS TRAPPED IN ARGENTINA AND I COULDNT LEAVE AND I ALMOST HAD A PANIC ATTACK UPON WAKING UP AND THIS DOESNT HELP MY MENTAL HEALTH. CAN YOU ACTUALLY LEAVE ARGENTINA?
@@manuelriveros2911 pero qué tenía que ver xd
Hotel California is such a lovely place to goon.@@kushalramakanth7922
Ya no es un Segundito, si no es un Ratote
This is going to screw up someone's 12 hour edge sesh.
There must be some massive friction burn and chaffing. 🤣
@@CNCGuy Ever heard about lube, Bro?
@@cajampa yeah, thats from the blood after a day. Quit being weak
Good thing I get here just after finishing it.😆
@@PierceMD 12 hours is criminal 🤣
The core problem with the theory that "coping mechanisms are bad because they remove the need to depend on others" is that we've made ourselves a society where no one wants to be depended upon. We're expected to develop total independency before we even dare to try making friends, and those who don't, who seek relationships without being independent, are called manchildren or golddiggers or parasitic or promiscuous. But... the more independent you are, the less you desire relationships, and people hate it when you don't desire relationships - they think you're aloof, they can't help but perceive your independence as a commentary upon their dependence, and so we end up with therapists who come to the table with the default assumption that people need to be made more dependent to help them fit in better with everyone else, even though being dependent harms your chances of having successful relationships.
You described the problem perfectly, the root of the issue is individualism
@@Dimitris_Half Nah individualism is fine in this particular case, note that Japan has the same problem despite being much more collectivist. The root of the issue is capitalism. Life is just too stressful these days, no one has any level of tolerance for other people's problems anymore because their patience is burned away by unfulfilling jobs and high cost of living.
@yurisei6732 No, individualism is the very problem. You said it rather nicely, nowadays we think that we can cover our social needs on our own.
I don't need to go outside to find friends, I will go on reddit
I don't need a girlfriend, I will just goon
I don't need a sense of purpose, I will just eat pizzas and watch netflix alone all day
Yep. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
You have put into words something that I have felt for so many years but never even thought to express it.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it.
watching this now. feel like this will be helpful, definitely have engaged in gooning way too much recently. probably in some part due to stress? unhealthy way of coping? craving intimacy? looking forward to learning more
great video. I think I might try and limit myself more, maybe even go on a long spree and avoid it all. definitely wanna get more in touch with real intimacy and distance myself from the cocaine button
I couldnt be mature about it once I heard "Calculus of gooning"
Ah yes I remember Goonamatics 202 in highschool where we learned the calculus of gooning
Sentient beings abusing their biology for max pleasure is just diabolical
We're fast tracking birthing a chaos god though, gonna be fun.
Not necessarily. Ever been to a restaurant? It too can be considered abusing your biology for pleasure. You don't fine dine because otherwise you'll starve.
Is it though?
@@yurisei6732Speedrun Eye of Terror any %.
Your literally do that by watching this video snd making that comment.
Doctor. K I'm a student who is fascinated by Neuroscience so much and I just graduated high school this year, and I just wanna say that you're the fricking teacher I always ALWAYS dreamed of having, and your today's video explained everything I wanted to for so long researching about masturbation and stuff, THANK YOU SO DARN MUCH. it's cuz of people like you that we still have hope of not giving into stupidity
Didn't stop my streak while watching this💯
Great video! Been fascinated by this subject for years so glad to hear scientific analysation.
I don’t do that stuff anymore because I always feel SO intensely lonely the next day.
It’s like my brain was happy to see these lovely women on the screen that appear to appreciate and trust me and then the next day it’s hoping to build on that loving relationship and they’re nowhere to be found.
That is fucking heartbreaking mate
interesting that you feel that way. it doesnt trigger this feeling of loneliness in me, so there have to be other factors at work aswell
"Appreciate and trust me" 😂
@@JohnnyAllan-vj7sjyou will be amazed at how the brain works
Idk why that hurt me tf and I'm a woman
23:20 "Gooner Gooner!" I never laughed this hard before, thank you Dr. K. Laughter is the best medicine 😂
Omfg that ad cut 😂.
"Today we'll be looking at gooning. Hey guys if you're interested in applying the principles "
LMAO
doc you truly are the best there is. honestly learning is all that happens here, no judgement
i gooned to this one dr k bless up keep pumping these out
never expected the 1985 film The Goonies to have such a detrimental effect on the today's youth
@@vukan.mp3 😭noooo
"I really want my cherished childhood movie never to have a modern remake" - *a finger on the monkey paw curls up*
@@LISHAI94once all the fingers curl up, just think about the *grip* on that little hairy hand…
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@@LISHAI94 god comment.
@@jeremytitus9519 satan comment
5:10 That's fascinating because without context, we don't know if he's describing mentally disabled folks at a Sanitarium or a random guy off the street that he's observing. Considering masturbation was labelled an affliction, I'd wager he's observing a developmentally disabled person in a sanitarium/asylum. It's the 1830s.
@cookechris28 And maybe one thing leads to another.
Perhaps it is an affliction. It was viewed as deeply disordered until about 5 minutes ago in human history.
@@JoeyG-o8r It was viewed as deeply disordered only from about 10 minutes ago to 5 minutes ago. That's not much to go on.
If i lived in an asylum in 1836 I'd be a gooner too
@@4grammaton doubt
This has a name? I always just called it “life” 🤷♂️
Tf bro
You now gave "Chocolate Rain" a totally different meaning
White chocolate rain
bro is officially a comment bot, this shit makes no sense 💀
huh?
IT MADE ME STRONGER I WILL EVEN USE THIS VIDEO FOR IT YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHH
There has been an internal struggle in the gooning community for many years so it’s great to see it burst onto the scene with a very fruitful conversation that really hits the head right on the money.
Paused this video halfway to goon with my buddies on 4chan, thanks doc
Between gooning and trying to date nowadays, I honestly don't know which one is more damaging.
Adiction or human connection? One might or might not hurt and the other definitely leaves you hurting?
@@unfriendme-z1fYes trying to date definitely is the one that leaves you hurting
the later is extremaly dangerous to your wallet thats a fact
If you don't know which one is more damaging, you have a problem.
My oldies can't activate a sim card, these youngins are activating parts of their brains
Best post!
I am from India... And Dr Alok bhai... You are a blessing. Bahut bahut dhanyavad
video essay on gooning is insane
Gooning while i watch this
Edging until the end of the video for maximum gains.
thanks for the chuckle guys, t'was a rough day. gotta get my goon kit outta my "special" stash
Dude same I gooned so hard
Looking forward to gooning to this episode
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Wild title dr.k
Not what I had expected to see on my front page today... or words I ever expected to hear from Dr. K. But here we are.
Genuinely super informative
The first "Study on Gooning" is gonna be legendary
I was just thinking "damn theres nothing interesting on youtube". I think God is real because he gave us this gem
"your death grip" slayed me.
That's unironically what it's called. Afterwards it's difficult to adjust to a woman's grip.
I honestly wonder how much of an effect infant circumcision has on this. Masturbation is natural, but if you have been desensitized and require a death grip because your glans has been keratinized and because you lack that key piece of lubricative skin, then it surely follows that you will have to adjust to it? It's already pretty well documented that circumcised men have to thrust harder during intercourse.
gooning mildly now, nun too rambunctious 🔥
I miss drive club & motorstorm @@Syncopia
@@Flesh_Wizardyou are everywhere
As always dr k is here with insightful message from his work thank you very much and am hoping the next step of this community is only fans
A very enlightening message, thanks for your time to provide information.
i think this merits a re-visit. you've missed a critical part of the subculture around this stuff, which is "captions", text posts, videos etc. that reinforce a fetishization of addiction, a fetishization of not being able to stop, of "getting worse" etc. - which turn it from just a dopamine hack into much more of a self-harm feedback loop. the majority of people into this engage with some amount of that content, at a minimum.
That’s a good point actually. When you go down the gooner rabbit hole you see that a lot of people are getting off on the idea that they are doing permanent damage to their mind lol.
dr k didnt mention it specifically but its implied in the M in bdsm
Yeah, the "self-harm feedback loop" I daresay is the most important and psychologically interesting aspect of this to discuss.
Ah yes, the mind_break tag my favorite
He didn't even scratch the surface
Thank you Dr. K, I was so afraid of actually ask what "Gooning" means, but now I know
Don't google it though
"Nether regions of the Internet"
Freaking Cyber-Dutch people!
Yasuna enjoyer
Dr K had do much fun with it. I rembember the conversation with Ludwig. This video is both informative and funny.
I remember when gooning meant commiting a crime. How times change.
It's a crime against yourself
my ni[nj]as they goonin'"
-Gucci Mane, circa 2013
Some people aren't choosing gooning over an healthy relationship. They are choosing gooning over nothing at all
They will never understand this, they can't even comprehend such a thing.
Why you think like that
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy!
They start gooning coz they don’t get relationships, and then because this gooning satisfies them, they don’t go out and socialize and continue not to have a relationship!
nice incel logic
youre deliberately missing his point to spout something pretty icel-pilled
Thanks for your take on this and I don't see this as a "weird" video at all. I'm not worried at all about the consequences of "gooning". Edging has been a thing for ages. Masturbation has been a thing for ages. Most humans have a desire to connect with other humans, and no form of masturbation is going to properly fill that desire.
Some people may spend a large amount of time on "gooning" just like some people spend a large amount of time on video games.
As I have aged, I have discovered an appreciation for imaginative artwork and storytelling in a good video game that is outside of what I experience in my daily life. Perhaps "gooning" can offer some people some novel pleasure, but I am not the least bit worried that young men and women are suddenly going to lose interest in connecting with one another because masturbation feels good.
It seems like even though most people at this point aren't religious anymore some religious ideas like "masturbation is bad" are still stuck in parts of our society (which is ironic because the bible literally doesn't even have one line where it talks about masturbating being bad) so it's fine if you do it quickly to get it over with but don't dare spend any more time than necessary on it to enjoy it more. But as you said objectively there's literally no difference between watching porn for 2 hours or playing a video game for 2 hours or watching a movie/show for 2 hours but for some reason porn is this disgusting dirty thing that's a waste of time and the other things are accepted.
@@lp4514 I really can't say much about pornography. Some people seem to believe from an entirely secular point of view that pornography is somehow uniquely harmful or overstimulating in a way that other habits and "vices" are not.
I really can't relate personally because as a transgender woman, I have a very solid association in my mind between viewing pornography and experiencing painful gender dysphoria.
@@vivianriver6450 In my opinion it depends entirely on the individual, for some people it has a negative impact and for others it doesn't. At least that has been my own experience, I used to watch porn for probably 15 years, most of that time daily and sometimes for many hours (and it was never an addiction, I could at any point decide to not do it for many days or weeks) and it never had any negative impact at all, 2 hours of porn felt exactly the same as 2 hours of gaming, I would say it was actually healthier because I felt was more relaxed the rest of the day. Never felt overstimulated or tired, didn't affect the rest of my life at all.
I stopped watching it a while ago (for "spiritual" reasons and to have more time for other things) and also now that I'm not doing it I don't feel any different or better compared to when I did watch it.
As a few other comments have metioned, this goes much deeper, and gets much darker. Fetishizing the addiction, intentionally making it worse and getting pleasure from it is a big part of gooning. It's sort of a self harm behavior, that gives you intense pleasure while doing it. When you are depressed, hate yourself, this is a very dangerous combination. You get to feel pleasure for a few hours, and you also scratch the self harm itch.
@@lp4514
Sorry, but I think you miss the point. Masturbation isn't bad, the stimulus used is bad. Most pornography is fake, mechanic and demeaning to women. I read somewhere that people who go down that rabbit hole far enough start to believe that women should behave like that in the bedroom. Also, nothing "normal" arouses you anymore because your brain is conditioned to superstimulus. It's definitely worse than a video game or a movie.
Tussaud just didn’t have the words for “His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti” yet
On the surface, he looks calm and ready to drop drop b***s, but he keeps forgetting what he wrote down.
Masterclass. I needed this.🙏🏽
Very informative and fun; I enjoyed watching. Thanks man!
Thank you Dr.K for bringing to light Gooning. I am a Gooner
Gooning followed the loneliness epidemic. It's not that gooning will increase loneliness. There's really no lower for them to fall, since you can't have less than 0 partners.
That's not how loneliness works. Nor how gooning interracts with loneliness. They can and will feel more alone via gooning. They just won't be more alone.
Yeah...
yeah, i believe gooning, porn addiction etc are byproducts of the loneliness epidemic, very few people would go there if they werent experiencing societal fallout as i like to call it.
Opioid addiction is a consequence of overprescription from doctors, but that doesn't mean we should be okay with people moving to heroine because they've become addicted to opioids because of overprescription, either.
It's a race to the bottom feedback loop, and you need to be able to stop it before your descent causes you to adopt habits that will speed up the descent to lower lows.
It would be interesting if this video touched on porn addiction too. Even touching on fetishes that can be damaged like financial dominance would be interesting.
I believe he has another video just on the topic of porn addiction.
@@jacobw.6744 I've watched it! Thanks for recommending it!
Oh wow, I had no idea anyone else was doing exactly this. I feel so validated.
I put this video on .25x speed and have been gooning to it for hours. Thanks Dr. K
17:14 you can't have that in the background right after talking about gooners using incense bro 😭💀
Oh shit 💀💀💀💀
Oh dam- XD
Caught in 4k 🎉