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Could you please do p-26 vs. su-57
If I was the mig id carry a aa10 et for a bvr shot with no warning
you know what i want next ;) gripen vs f35! :D
Do a LCA Tejas vs any modern jet... would be interesting to see how it fares against some of the bests.
Go for j 20 vs su 57
Seems like the mig ran out of flares for the last missle, because it seemingly only dropped chaff instead of flares
"missle" 💀
@@davidsmith8997 Especially with the viper already behind it. But it definitely would've made the situation even more intense XD
@@anomaly_echelon7994 Autocorrection doing it's job 💀
@@anomaly_echelon7994 wonder what word he was really trying to type 🤔 🙄
I disagree it was definitely the rearward visibility. Someone gets on your direct six as a mig21 they become the world's best stealth fighter.
Imagine the F16 with meteor missiles. That would be devastating for any enemy fighters.
We'll see what happens if the Viper gets upgraded for the AIM-260.
@@PhycoKruskI hope this is soon!
@@eric97909 Well, it's supposed to be operational this year, although "end of 2023" sounds pretty fungible.
Currently, I don't see it slated to be available for the F-16, but I'm going off what public information I have, so that is probably not totally accurate. However, the Super Hornet is planned to get it, so it's not unreasonable that the F-16 might. It'll depend if the avionics upgrade is worth the cost, or if the Air Force decides to just go all-in on Fat Amy (which is probably the better plan, but what do I know?).
@@PhycoKruskI bet they leave the F16 to carry the AMRAAM just because USAF mostly designates that craft for A2G and they'll probably stick to the Eagles to do the BVR heavy lifting. I don't know anything though
Or a Mig 21 with those Russian air to air Hypersonic missiles(Mach 6 capable).
“Let’s try spinning. That’s a good trick…”
In all actuality, DCS is detailed enough that you could probably produce a decent short movie or documentary and have it turn out pretty well.
The air frame of the MiG-21 has really beaten the test of time. I think that speaks volumes for the engineers that built it. They were limited by technology that was available to them at the time. Slap some modern avionics and a more efficient/powerful engine in there, and all of a sudden the scales start to move. That was really an impressive fight from the MiG. Who'd of thought an air frame from the 1950's with modern everything strapped to it could keep an F-16 at bay for that long?
I came in to this video expecting to be watching from the mig perspective, and thought we're in for a 5 fight sealclubing video, and was absolutely shocked when the mig made it in to freaking gun range with the f16 down to fox2s. The mig21 bison has just gained a fan with me.
Air fights now-a-days are 90% about electronic and missile capabilities. I kinda already knew the MIG was gonna lose simply because less hard points. Although, like GS points out, the Bison definitely shouldn't be discounted. It has the goods to fight other 2nd tier military jets for sure. I would definitely like to see a US F16 take it on. The more modern AMRAMs might make the MIG's lifespan a little shorter.
The F16 would have definitely went down if there was a pair of them.
@@thystaff742 this is the thing, mig21 is cheaper than f16, back in 1970, 80s, all these migs, mig23, mig21, would overhelm the western airforces.. and would be used doctrinally correct-this one on one would be against soviet doctrine, .. its about striking from below, so radar can't see, lots of jamming so awacs doesn't help, and since migs are cheaper you will outnumber enemy in potential fight. overall, better strategy i think.
I think the MiG-21UPG managed to survive the F-16C for so long because the scenario is a dog fight.
I think the MiG-21UPG’s Kopyo radar range is 57km and the F-16C’s AN/APG-68 is nearly 300km.
Historically, western equipped air forces have made short work of MiG-21s, MiG-23s, and MiG-29s.
The Mig here brings to mind the phrase "Refined by age, not defined by age"
I've always loved the look of the Mig-21. It's just so plane-shaped
It looks like rocket with wings and tail 😊
Interesting that a highly modernized MiG-21 can still be somewhat useful on the battlefield. Very interesting.
India uses them as interceptors.
@prestallar4339 But if its upgraded avionics turn it into a long range interceptor, it's still useful.
surprised that ancient winged cylindric coffin thats crashed over 400 times can even fly, even though it has over 1000 kills, on the pilots that flew it and the civilians caught in the crash site.
An Indian Mig-21 reportedly shot down a Pakistani F-16 in a fight.
@@KadenHines-v8e but enough about the F-104, this is a MiG-21 video
I don't have the precise numbers, but I believe the last/latest MiG-21 development had engines with 3x the power of the original engines for the aircraft. Imagine that as an upgrade. A plane with triple the thrust it originally possessed. That's pretty wild.
Thing could probably take off vertically if set on its tail
Imagine an F-4 with triple thrust.
Much less than that: 12680 to 15650. But the new engine could run in a heavily boosted mode for 2 minutes that would boost power to 21800.
you really believe that?
Like the 21 were slow to begin with
Tom Cruise in the next top gun movie: "The aileron roll will confuse his targeting system"
Missles was more expensive than the Mig21😅 Great fight.
*Indians and Pakistani assemble for a battle lol*
Masala vs Habibi
This tea is fantastic 😂
RIP *"Doosra Banda"* 😂
Nah on this channel only the educated ones comes not the chapri ones so there are no battles
@@muhammadafnan6220 u seem new to internet
Holy cow! That 50+ y/o MiG made you work for that kill. Props to Bane and his DCS skills. As always, great vids by GS🤙🏽
Even the F16s are over 40 years old now
@@QasimAli-to5lkstill they are 4th gen specified
Tougher fight than I thought it would be.
The little details in DCS amaze me. The wing flex at 4:40..... stunning!
Another awesome video GS, thank you!!
Looking behind you and seeing a viper in pure pursuit witg wings flexing is terrifying 😂
Although civilians in India always rip on the MiG-21; calling it scrap metal, flying coffin & whatnot, the IAF pilots who fly this beast know what its strengths are. Shooting down the Pakistani F-16 was perhaps its final goodbye before being relegated to the pages of history.
Having seens this birds fly very closely, and after discussing with a couple of pilots who flew Fishbeds, what I understood is it a little menace. I might do much impact when there is a BVR fight and we have known opponents, but if it suddenly enters the battlefield, then enemy will get a not-so-pleasant surprise. That's what happened on 27 Feb. And then DGISPR Gafoora had to change his statement thrice. teen bande --> do bande and doosra banda in critical condition --> ek banda.
The best part of the bison is the israeli elta elm-8222 jammer. It can defeat the radar of the f-16a/b mlu. Proved its worth in 2004 air exercise with usaf.
interesting to note is that during operation frequent wind ( the evacuation of Saigon during Vietnam) the always beautiful F-14 made its first debut providing escort to the helicopters and although Tomcat did not see any action against the North Vietnam Mig 21s it would have been an interesting match up to say the least given that the F-14 did not likely have its AIM 54s or the other equipment later on that made it so lethal so maybe a DCS fight with A mig 21 against the early Tomcat unless its been done already
The Vietnamese Mig-21s in the 70s were no where near upgraged as this Bison. Those Mig-21s were the original version, only armed with guns and 2x Stoneage Fox-2s. They weren't a match against the F14s
@@Invictus22656The Early F14s also didn’t have their Phoenix missiles. Just AIM9 and AIM7.
@@tetraxis3011 you got a point. However, I don't think the Vietnamese Mig-21s is a match against American F14s at that point in time. The F14 is far superior in terms of avionics & aerial maneuver performance
A couple of comments about 1950's engineering. Those were the WWII generation who took us to the moon. They really knew what they were doing. I know there is no F-106 available on DCS, but I think you would be shocked if there were. The engineers back then actually expected their missiles to HIT the enemy aircraft, not just get near it. I know the Vietnam era Sparrows were considered junk, but that was problems interfacing to the F-4 electronics. The same missiles from a 106 had none of those problems. There is an interview with a 106 pilot about shooting down a mach 2.5 Bomarc coming head on, in a test, with a contact fused Sparrow. The plane and Sparrow were chosen at random.. The 106 is the fastest single engine plane ever built.
Yo GS I would love to see you fly the mig-21 bison. I think that would be really interesting to do this fight in reverse
Idk if you did this on purpose but, the first (I think) restored civilian MIG-21 flew today out of PIE airport in Florida. Its supposed to be flown around airshows across the country soon
I believe there has been civ mig21 in South Africa for a while now doing super sonic flights for anybody that can afford it, like R60 000 (ZAR) for a 30-45min flight. But info is scarce.
The Pakistani F-16 looks very slick with that minimalistic Grey color scheme.
What the MiG 21s did at that time, made the US to come up with a whole new generation of Teens. That's how capable they were.
Given the modernisation by India,
I would believe their version of the story that the Bison shot down the Viper with the eyewitnesses account describing the ejection chute colour which actually is from an F16.
there are multiple osint pieces pointing to the contrary so
Exactly there are multiple OSINTs confirming an F16 kill.
@@slimkhalifadogg this guy just committed blasphemy by contradicting DJ LIESPR gaffurra...
Of course you would, you're an Indian 🙂
@@SHK-SPORTS11 and you said so cz you're a pakistani... 😆
I really wish you would fly aircraft like the mig 21 in these videos instead of just flying the F-16 every time
Indian airforce always upgrade their aircrafts with the best equipments making it the best varients of that aircraft like Mig 21 bison,Sepecat Jaguar Daren 3,Mirage 2000i, Mig 29UPG, and soon Super Sukhoi upgrade for Su30 MKI.
But we should accept it, my friend. the bisons are too old
@@gigachad3327 yeah, every airframe has a time limit. It's too old. But just until 2025.
The Su30 mki India has is already very capable and scary aircraft so a super sukhoi upgrade would make it a complete beast
They're death traps
Hey GS! Can you please do this fight from Mig21 bison's perspective too? It would be an interesting fight to watch.
As a real pilot having never flown a real fighter, it's interesting to see the combat tactics utilized to defeat the A2A and G2A missiles. Never thought about doing aileron rolls (I assume to fluctuate your radar reflectivity) to confuse the missiles. Thanks for posting as it's a good instructional video as well.
looooool I'd like to just once again touch on the fact that, that was a joke and doesn't work in real life lol.
@@GrowlingSidewinder When all else fails, worth a try.. LOL
@@GrowlingSidewinder Now we need a myth bust video, maybe its valuable strat doe
Ok bud we need to see you fly the bison. I bet you can kill a F-16
Would have loved it if you could fly the bison instead of the F-16. Have seen you flying the F-16 a lot, would love to see you fly some Russian aircraft
We all know the F16 won't have a chance if GS was flying the MIG21... Remember this was a Pakistani F16... Not US/Nato
@@Ba5edAFin reality over 500 Indian migs have been lost in accidents and only 10 f 16 of PAF sooyou need to take a pill of tolerance and to stay low
Because Mig 21 is much older aircraft and less reliable. But in terms of A2A capabilities the Mig 21 bison can compete with Pakistani F16s. Because most of the F16s Pakistan use are Block 15 variants (They may have some advanced variants).
@@Abdul.Haseeb70 ......indian mig 21 are 60 year old aircraft......we will see how f16 perform after getting old.
Indian mig-21 was escorted by Netra AWACs during battle when it shooted down Pak F-16...
Lol no
@@netsimamfakistani spotted
The Bison is not the most advanced MiG-21 variant. The MiG-21 LanceR is also a highly modernised variant that just got decomissioned by the Romanian Air Force.
They are both mig-21 upgrades that came out of the many mig-21 upgrade packages of the 90s. They are both similarly modernized calling one more advanced than the other is semantics. The lancerR has more air to ground upgrades and the bison has more air to air upgrades.
Actually bison is an upgrade over the lanceR and is not to be confused with the mig 21 bis. Look it up.
The Lancer has no BVR capability while the Bison does. Also the Kopyo radar is better than the elm2032 in the lancer so yes the Bison IS more advanced.
Imagine thinking Romania would have a Mig 21 more advanced than India lol... This was IAF'S workhorse for decades
@@Ba5edAF So was it for the Romanians
Holy SHIT that mig21 is packing some heat!
As an 🇦🇺, I see 🇮🇳 vs 🇵🇰 as if not brother on brother, than cousin on cousin. I hate how our family was created, but it sux seeing my cousins fight.
i would love to see some older aircraft dogfights, loved the video thanks gs
Great performance by the Mig-21 i believe that if it had 6 pylons like the F-16 it could’ve even been victorious
Forget the pylons, all the MiG-21 had to do was carry Archers and get in the merge with the F-16. Indian Bison Migs have HMDS, Pakistani F-16 don't. Easy to guess who'd win that fight.
@@death_paradelol we have proof no f16 was shot down
@@death_paradeBlock 52 have them
@@lemonpepperlouisville4138 Pakistani ones don't have HOBS AAM to go with those. Also, PAF has just 17 Block 52, including trainers.
4:40 I just noticed that the wing flexes as the plane banks. 😮
Can you do this fight again, but from the MiG's perspective?
Imagine a modernized f-14, what kind of beast would that be?
Obsolete
What about a modern F-86?
@@seka1986ah, we need a FOX-3 capable P-26 peashooter
@@seka1986 obsolete
@@bobsempletank4322fun
I was expecting the f16 to steamroll the mig21. Mig put up a surprising fight! That was pretty awesome.
Reminds me of what USAF F-15 pilots thought after squaring off against MiG-21 Bisons during Cope India Exercise in 2004.
Unfortunate that you didn't keep with your underdog trend, though this was still a fun match to watch.
You almost had me at "the roll confuses the missile" I was about to flip 😂
Yo I love all the vids you do man but I just wanna ask if you could do like a 2v3 for the Egyptian Israeli conflict?
That mig21 is like a 89 Honda civic ultra tuned up
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I imagine (much like say, the Sea Harrier) the MiG-21 has a smallish radar cross section because of its size despite its age.
Radar still largely depends on physics where reflected energy is based on output power divided by distance^4 with RCS being an important factor. That's why countries are leaning into stealth. RCS is the only factor of that equation you can really control.
This was a very interesting scenario.
I would like to see more of these. Perhaps you flying the BIS vs something challenging.
Slight nitpick, MiG-21 Bis is not the same as MiG-21 Bison.
The Bison vs. A Legacy Hornet would be interesting, or maybe an F-14A.
Please do opposite fight -you in MIG-21 vs F-16 viper. 😉
Day 47 of asking for AH-64 Apache versus SU-57 Felon
I would like it more for you to be on the backfoot with the mig 21, the outcome wouldn't be as clear 😅
Love seeing the MiG21! Iconic little bird
Bro can gave Indian rafale and F 16
Vote u need this video
I've always felt the late-model 21s are the best looking jet fighters ever....excellent "Evil Empire" retro-cool. And yep....I'm a red-blooded 'Murican 😁
Love to see a video of you going to a gun range sometime - I can only assume you'd be standing on your head trying to fire a Glock downrange while inverted.
After the video, you can experience an intense dogfight between IAF and PAF keyboard warrior squadrons in the comment section
2nd generation fighter vs 4th generation 😂😂
But still I will say our Indian government is incapable of maintaining airforce Squadrons
The aileron turn momentarily changed your RCS. So it's a chance to lose lock, depending on the context of the fight.
Very cool video! I like seeing unusually complex fights
A good fight and cheers to the Viper FTW.
The last thing I heard about India's Mig-21s was they were grounded after one too many crashes. Those things are flying coffins.
Due to their old age they're getting replaced by the LCA Tejas which will carry the meteor, R77s, Astra MK1 BVR missile
its 60 year old jet.....what you expect
The airframes are past their life
@@Dangermonkey1000nearly 70
Mig Shot down 1f16fighter ❤️❤️🇮🇳
This is beyond satisfying. Mig 21 is always one of my imagin enemy since childhood. I absolutely how they modernized post-soviet weapons. I mean, the early migs/AK/Soviet tanks are such good villain materials, ugly, rough, and robust.😂😂😂
I saw a talk on RUclips by an F-22 pilot who said the Mig-21 Bison was the only plane he was worried about, due to it's speed, jamming capability and modern missiles.
He was joking probably
Lol ya I wouldn’t read too much into that.
An F22 cmon now 😂
I'd have bought it if you said an older f-16 or something. An F-22 come on.
Would be cool to see this modernized Mig21 go up against a modernized Turkish Phantom with Amraams
Mig-21 modernized vs F-4 with derby missiles would be wild.
Mig 21 bison have significant advantages there
Lately the Fox 3 missiles have been extremely ineffective in the videos. I guess so long as you respect the MAR and you are a really experienced pilot the kill chance is almost 0. And since you have consistently been adding SAMs to the matches the MAR is always tiny. It does raise a real world question as to why the US hasn't developed the FMRAAM or at least something like Meteor, that ramjet design turns any plane into a Mig-31 interceptor level of BVR threat.
Yet it is believed that modern dog fights wont happen because of stealth and BVR...At 20 miles, stealth jets are no longer stealthy from that close range.
They actually did develop something like that--the AIM-152. But funding collapsed when the Soviet Union did. After that, the US fought almost exclusively non-peer enemies, and developed stealth aircraft that closed the range gap. It's only recently that they started developing new long-range missiles due to near-peer threats.
Hi I'm your regular subscriber. Plz make a simulation on Indian Rafael vs Pakistani F16 😊😊
Research Brazilian F5s, which are considered the most advanced F5s in operation, with many improvements.
I'd live to see another stealth package bombing run, with stealth backup!
Now flip dat shit GS in the Bison 🎉
Pakistani F-16s only have American components , weapons, data link, radar and avionics etc.
. there is nothing chinese integrated on F-16s as Americans never allowed that and they are not compatible
The first aim9 looked like it ran out of propellant just before impact and fell behind.
Wonder if the guidance computer takes that into account cos it seemed like it was accelerating to the target then suddenly lost thrust at the last second. Could it have taken a different intercept path if it knew it would be gliding at the final seconds?
well missiles deff understand that they will be gliding, amraams and other fox3s only burn for 7-12 seconds max, they use whatever kinetic energy they have at that point to hit the target. So the guidance is not dependent on burn, the missile is constantly trying to intercept regardless of energy state.
Looks like MiG-21 airframe aged like a wine here.
True Story: Indian MIG-21 at Red Flag, gets into a 110 knot, 60 degrees nose up scissors with an F-16, from 10,000 ft to 20,000ft. The Israeli jammer on the MIG-21 gets the MIG to the merge. The MIG-29 engine and canopy, along with the R-73 Archer made the the Indian MIG no joke.
Been happening since Cope India 2004 where the Bison surprised USAF F-15 pilots.
11:40 So when we don't report back I think we can all guess the answer 😂😂
Would love it if you did more WW2 stuff!!!! Love your vids.
I really wonder: what's the point of modernizing an airplane until basically all that's left of the old one is the airframe? Just buy a new one instead and be done with it?
Needs must and all that... bureaucracy, red tape and political corruption/indifference.
It's possible, idk why people keep thinking aircraft like the Bison can't keep up with 4th generation aircraft. It's about skill and training of the pilot. Anything can smoke another.
Mostly because it had problems with its own generation.
Hey...you never did Rafale(Indian) vs Su 57 Dogfight or even long range.
Should've flown the MIG
You should try to modernize a F4 phantom and see how it performs lol\
Would love to see you fly the bison against any opponent GS
would be interesting to see a video on theoretical build of the "super" sukhoi's that india is planning by upgrading su30 with AESA radars, and maybe even meteor missiles added to
So the best Sukhois are the ones with western radar, western missiles and improved engines? Nice
@@petrsafranek5725it will have indian made Radar
@@petrsafranek5725western radar and missiles are significantly better due to budget
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 But people under every aviatic video will argue, that SU or MiG is better than anything western all the time...
@@petrsafranek5725 well su and mig make good airframes so you can say that in some cases they are better. For example compared to the f18
The comment section probably gone wild by now 😳
Surprisingly it didn't 🤨
Can you do MiG 21 bison vs F16 C with CCM only I.e sidewinder vs archer?
The roll confuses the missile
Hello to my Indian fellows here 😂 and Yes we aren't gonna fight here.
The Indian Airforce has plans to completely retire the MIG 21 BISON by 2025-27, as of now they have already started to phase out their older squadrons.
Great video as always bro 👍
"Phase" out please!
@@PC-tz6rw done, thanks for the correction mate
@@darthvader5558 just an oversight, I am sure. 👍
The Indians fly their Mig21s along with their Su-30MKIs. Its a very interesting combo with the Mig21 being almost invisible to radar and the Su-30MKI having a massive radar and jammer.
Thanks for uploading in 4k. :D Not enough creators do that.
That’s fox2 turn the mig21 from a plane to a rocket😮
I'm going to guess all those missiles cost 3 times more than the Mig 😂 how far off am I?
Loved it :) How about English Electric Lightening v Mig 21 plz,
How bad do you want to smoke something with the mig21 now? Hahaha
I got to see the legendary Indian and Pakistani keyboard warriors
Mig 21 shot American made f16 in simple language 😂😂😂😂😂😂....which usa never adopted
The Fighting Falcon has accumulated 72 air-to-air kills with no air-to-air losses except for one fratricide loss by the Pakistani Air Force 😂
Maybe its just me but when u jettison the tanks arent the pylons supposed to stay on the aircraft? I see that the entire pylon was jettied off
Now for the real challenge, play in the mig 21 lmfao
Pakistan does have JHMCS but no 9Xs
I thought we liked "spicy" subjects 🤔
The MiG-21UPG is basically the fighter jet of Theseus. If you overhaul the airframe, replace the cockpit and avionics and swap out all the weaponry, is it still the same aircraft?
I would say so. It still flies the same. Which is its main weakness when it comes to a dogfight.
it still has the og airframe