@@michaeladams5636 The "GOAT" is a really tired topic. You cannot be better or worse than a player who didn't play in your era. That being said, Bonds is at worst the second best position player of his time. Griffey is the only one you could say was better. Griffey was a better outfielder (but actually probably not considering his recklessness led to injury) and had a better arm. Bonds had a better OBP and stole more bases. Other than that they were nearly identical (pre-bonds steroids, 1999).
The best complete player in my eyes has ever seen, thanks for the video. He should have won the MVP in 1991, he got the negative publicity at the start of the season due to Leyland correcting him at spring training. Bonds got off to a slow start that season and wasn't selected as an All Star (and this is even after winning the mvp in the previous season). Then they robbed him of the MVP award at the end of the season. The chewing out should have stayed in house and not gone viral for the whole world to see. That's what started the negative publicity with him and the media. Congrats to HOF Jim Leyland one of the best managers of that era. I went to a home Pirates game the next season and Bonds hit one in the upper deck in the first season. He just jogged around the bases as the organ played. He eventually won the 1992 MVP later that year. I can honestly say I saw the best baseball player in his prime.
Been saying it since 92. Barry Bonds will be/is the goat. That's saying a lot. And I've been around a while and saw some of the goats live. Mays, Aaron, etc.
I've been watching BB for 60yrs, and really watching for about 50. Barry is without a doubt the best player I have ever seen. I did see Mays, Mantle and Aaron. albeit late in their careers and past their prime, and never saw Cobb, Ruth, Williams or Musial, but since nobody asked, Barry Bonds is better than anybody I have ever seen.
@@l.r9655 Yes, and it isn't really close in my opinion. KGjr was a beautiful player and first ballot HOF without a doubt. However, if you run a head-to-head comparison, it's impossible to ignore a 162 - 83 WAR and more of everything stat wise. 3 numbers stand out: 3x SB, almost 3x IBB and for all the oohs and aahs KG provided on D, BB has an almost 4x D WAR.
Barry bonds is my homie fr... I use to be bat boy for the giants whenever they came to my city... I look at him as my big bro no cap... I can call him right now and chat with him... Love U Barry!!
@justvibing2497 no cap.. my uncle is Michael Jackson.. Barry best friend back in the day was my auntie DeeDee who was tito Jackson wife back then.. when my aunt passed (I believe around 94-96) he was at my Aunt's funeral and spoke.. from that day on we've became real close.. along with my dad Marlon Jackson who's my uncle Mike's brother... ever since then, I was the bat boy whenever they came into town... he had a house back then in Temecula california.. shit, you wouldn't believe me if I told u tony Gwynn jr. Use to be my best friend back in middle school.. I use to go to his house every weekend in Poway.. rip Mr. Gwynn.. really cool guy.. Bro...... I know people!!! I got true stories I can tell u bro...
@@fabiansybille1993 I'm not lying.. ain't no reason to.. I'm being fr and barry is kool af.. I can talk to him about my problems in life.. a real down to earth man..
I saw everyone from Mays/Mantle till now..... Barry is the best I've ever seen. Unlike others, he was hard to strike out and his production considering he was seeing 1 maybe 2 balls in the strike zone per game.....
The writers and media made him out to be a villian. Dudes numbers before "roids" were ridiculous and then his stats on the giants are insane. Dude is the 🐐 hands down no matter which way people look at it.
His numbers before cheating were good; they were not ridiculous and nowhere near the best of all-time. The saddest part of this whole mess is all the fan-boys trying to defend his cheating. Rationalizing cheating says more about you than it does about Bonds.
@buckfan1969 cry about it everyone and their momma used something in that era but to single one guy outbwhen he was as great as he was just because is asinine. Look at the hof they let ortiz in who got popped but we have no legitimate proof of bonds every failing a test just speculation.
This was nicely done. I will be keeping up with the subsequent videos. Bonds from a numbers stand point is almost otherworldly 👽 but seriously, his pirates numbers are often overlooked and that was before the allegations. Pt 2 & 3 should be good 👍
Barry Bonds only struck out 100 times in a season once and it was his rookie season. He struck out 102 times and never struck out 100 times ever. Look at the strike outs from leaders today and they hover close to 200 strike outs. No one has better command of the strike zone than Barry. It's not even close.
Not many will dispute his greatness. However you have 2 types of fans, those who can compartmentalize the steroid era as only one segment of Bonds career while accepting that many hitters and pitchers were doing the same thing and those who cannot accept that aspect of Bond’s career. To those who can’t accept it I say if roids helped him so much why was no other player remotely close to his numbers and being feared like him?
I’m 54 Pete rose was my all time favorite player but Barry bonds was the greatest hitter I’ve ever seen the year he hit 70 plus home runs he maybe had 80 pitches to hit most amazing thing I ever saw in baseball
I don’t hate Bonds and I know his stats off by heart but he doesn’t compare to Babe Ruth.. even Manny Ramirez was a far superior hitter to Barry Bonds.
@billysikes1374 Stop talking baseball the man was first ballot before he touched steroids he was better than both those bums as a natty facts. He had all 5 tools. Miggy was just a slugger and Gwynn had no power.
@@travisgrigsby330 you don't know shit, Bonds was a tiny bum in Pittsburgh lol Gwynn didn't need power, greatest hitter of all time, Shows wtf you know, Bonds will never, ever, be a HOFer, so get over it
@@travisgrigsby330 Miggy just a slugger lol You should be ashamed to even think about talking baseball with me, How many players have over 500 homeruns, over 3000 hits, 2 World Series rings with 2 garbage teams, Miami and Detroit, Just happened to be 1 of a very short few to win the Triple Crown
No he isn’t that’s ridiculous with all his playoff personal failures and cheating Babe Ruth among many others like Lou Gehrig were twice as good as him.
@@kdogg1.0 So what if your a Padres fan look kid Sammy Sosa hit 60+ home runs in three out of four seasons.. Bonds only had one 50 plus home run season……..
IDC about roids, it saved baseball. The fact Bonds absolutely raked while being surrounded by controversy shows his greatness. The dude had over a 1.0 OPS his final season and no one would sign him. Best baseball player of all time. Theres no one even close, maybe Willie Mays or Hank Aaron, and theyre a distant second.
A great player but a terrible dude. He took being an asshole to a whole new level. It's actually quite sad because he should be celebrate on the level of MJ
He was a hall of fame player before he was 28. Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame also. To much politics in baseball when you clearly have two of the best players not in the hall of fame, I call it the hall of shame. On one hand you got the home run king, berry Bonds. On the other the hit king Pete Rose. They both deserve to be in the Hall of fame. That’s my opinion.
The guy had 495 home runs before the “cream “ and the “clear” and “Balco” And , what people forget, he was hitting against pitchers who were juicing or taking growth hormone. Just call the period from 1987 to 2007 the steroid era and give them an asterisk and put them in the hall of fame
Ppl already call it the “steroid era” no need for a * but if you wish to put an * on it than you gotta put one on everything including World Series wins* all records*, league leaders*, award winners* and HOF including commissioner during that era that allowed it to happen
NO !!! Willie Mays is the GOAT. Alot of players in his era lost years to the military like Ted Williams did also. But Willie Mays hit 660 HR's and over 3000 hits and stole over 300 bases and missed 3 years in his prime to go fight in the war. What would his stats be if he didn't.
Name me the PED that helps you recognize a pitch faster, where to place the bat or which pitches to swing at……I’ll wait No one is saying Gear didn’t help him or anyone else…..BUT this dude was just different, even amongst those who were using Gear. If Gear made everyone awesome, why did most of the guys who used it never reach his level?…….Barry is just different…..Call him every name in the book, he’s still on the Mt. Rushmore of Baseball.
@@Silver_79 well any steroid helps you hit the ball better because you can reach the ball quicker. I think Barry Bonds getting walked so much from the pitchers is what kept him from from being the GOAT. I mean if he got pitched to and drove in like 150+ runs from 2000-2004 he would be the GOAT of baseball but he never got pitched to enough.
@@michaeladams5636 "well any steroid helps you hit the ball better because you can reach the ball quicker" I get what your saying but your statement is one about power/bat speed. No one with a functioning brain (honestly at least) is saying Gear didn't help his power/speed which translates to more homers. I'm saying irrespective of any Gear name me the PED that helps a hitter see a pitch faster, recognize the type of pitch and where to place the bat....It doesn't exist. Barry ability to do those things at such a exceptional level is why he was so good as a hitter. IF his swing had started to slow down with age, he would have just adjusted the starting time of his swing to make contact. Its highly unlikely Barry would be the HR king without "help", but his ability to know where to place his bat for the ball was nuts. That skill set had nothing to do with Gear.
So really what I learned from this is that he should have even more MVPs lol. This dude will never be surpassed. Idc if he roided or not. Baseball was at a low before steroids. Barry Bonds was the greatest player in any era. He played in the steroid era, and was the greatest then. I think that proves he's the best lol.
When i was like 11 or 12 years old it would have been in 2001, 2002. Me and my cousins all wrote a letter to our favorite baseball player. Mine ofcourse was Barry Bonds. I wrote the letter and my grandma sent them all out. A month or so later i get an autographed Barry Bonds baseball card sent back to my in the mail. Put Barry in the Hall of Fame already... its ridiculous he hasnt been voted in yet.... him and Pete Rose
Don’t forget Lou Gehrig and David Ortiz. I also think Alex Rodriguez had a slightly better career than Bonds even though Bonds had a few more MVPs. I don’t think deserved in MVP in 2003 I would have voted Pujols that year.
The fact he is on the argument for being the GOAT and not in the hall of fame because of suspicion which whier never proven is crazy meanwhile Ty Cobb racist ass is just chilling and Pete Rose literally gambled on the game and still got in.
Michael Adam's, Sosa career stats 273 ba, 609 hrs, 1667 rbi, 878 ops, Now Bonds 298 ba, 762 hrs, 1996 rbi, 2227 runs, ops 1.051. End of debate, stop with your nonsense.
Saw him play when he fiest came to SF, before the juice. Changed him from one of the greatest left fielders ever into a DH. Pre steroids he could hit and run like a deer, after he could hit with better power
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go try to hit a baseball. Its insanely hard. Hitting homeruns has a a lot more to do with being able to "get your pitch" which means fouling balls off that arent your pitch and seeing for your pitch, then reacting.... steroids or not..... muscle is still only maybe 8% of the equation at best
Barry bonds was one of the best players ever. But because of the ped allegations and his massive ego he chose to take performance enhancing drugs. And because of that decision, his legacy will always be tainted.
Damn, the guy couldn't even clean up after himself, the long kitchen counter in his San Francisco condo always littered with boxes and bottle of steroids, cotton balls and syringes... Granted, every player on his team couldn't stand him, but I think that was because he brutally beat up his wife so often... I only ran into the guy once, when I was standing next to a little black girl who handed Bonds a new baseball and a Sharpie and asked "Mr. Bonds" for his autograph, only to be told, "You'll have to see my people about that" aka buy one... Hell of a guy. Yeah, hell's a good word.
That's slander. Bonds didn't live in a condo in sf he owned a home in Atherton. None of the abuse allega were ever substantiated in fact courts found his ex wife liable financially. I never saw him treat any child poorly in fact he did sign alot of autographs.
@@Jeff-sp7bg Atherton, Marin, San Francisco, Riverside, Temecula... Yeah, Bonds has had some real estate holdings in his life. His condo with the long kitchen counter littered with boxes and bottle of steroids, cotton balls and syringes in SF was on South Van Ness, just south of Market. Minutes from Pac Bell Park, he had a good view. With access to the entirety of Candlestick Park before, during and after games, I regularly encountered Bonds, and regularly encountering Bonds results in consistently encountering his exhibiting cruelty to everyone as a matter of course. Real talk.
@@Jeff-sp7bg OK, you don't understand... words, context... life... Bonds isn't enjoying his life. Never has, never will. He's dumb, scared, angry and regularly violent. I ain't got that. Heading out for a tasty lunch now with a happy, smart and beautiful woman and her dog on a sunny day, Cool Cliff.
Bonds was a very good player before he started juicing, but he wasn't close to being the goat. People who don't know hitting say getting stronger doesn't help the hitter make contact, but that's absolutely not true. The stronger the hitter is, the quicker his bat will be. That means he can wait longer before committing on a pitch. And that means they don't get fooled as often, and of course the quicker bat makes the ball go further. It's not rocket science, folks; the cheating is the sole reason he has the numbers he has now. Sans cheating he probably finishes around Frank Robinson in home runs and rbi.
Maybe he would have been the goat, but since he decided to take steroids that changed his legacy. Steroids took away something he could possibly have been without even taking them sad. You can't call someone the goat who takes steroids if you are a true sports fan.
You clearly dont watch baseball if you cant pronounce Bobby Bonilla's name correctly. In addition to being a great player, his name gets brought up every year to this day on the date the Mets pay him.
@@GizmoBeach he didn’t cheat . Hitting a 100 mph fastball steroid or not he deserves to be in the hof . Saying he cheated is like saying Pete rose cheated . They need to stop being stupid
Threw like a girl, teammates hated him, took roids, i hate this dude, but i must admit, Bonds on roids was the best hitter I ever saw. Still threw like a girl.
Sadly, Barry Bonds will never be considered the GOAT by those whose opinions matter and is extraordinarily unlikely to get into the hall of fame due to his heavy use of anabolic steroids. As a player gets older in the game, it's only natural that their numbers trail off. However, in his thirties, Bonds not only became a chiseled Adonis but his numbers went through the roof. I'm sorry if this hurts the feelings of his fan base but it's the undeniable truth. Somewhere his father is spinning in his grave.
How can he be the GOAT, when NOOOO MLB team even wanted him towards the end of his tenure, which you say is the greatest period, of ANY PLAYER, EVER? But no one wanted THE GOAT!?
@@InDepthBaseballYT sure buddy, I like the video, great job, editing is top notch. Just weird that you could be the the GREATEST OF ALL TIME, and nobody wants you? You could have the best 4 years of your career AFTER your 35 years and indeed, the bestest 4 seasons evaaaar. Lemme ask, if you make a GOAT list from the 4 major American sports, how many of them have 0 championships? Alright, good talk.
i truly don't care what some people say, roids will not improve your swing, it won't help a batter see the ball better, mcgwire was a beast in oakland with canseco, etc... the bonds haters are idjits.
The biggest cheater. The most bogus records. He didn't need steroids but he used them because others got more attention than he did. That was childish of him and like a really large baby he is now getting spanked by reality just like McGuire, Sosa, Clemons et al. I think he would have gotten in except for the cheating. And has anyone noticed the Most of the other cheats ain't there either?
Maybe he was going to be the best of all time but sad that we will never know if have home run record for season and career have carrer batting avg of 298. With out use of steroids. Mlb ban the use of psd in 1991 so he knew. He might have been a the hall fame player. But we never know for sure. The media and sport writers did not keep him out hall of fame he did it himself.
lets break down a few things, as you have attempted to do here. without any discussion of roids until other facts are out of the way. in his first 4 years (through age 24) he wasnt great yet. many were great before that age, off the top of my head there is williams, mays, mantle ,ruth, grffey, a-rod, ed matthews, jimmie foxx, cobb, and thats not counting, pitchers, or players who didnt sustain a high level (like vada pinson or cecar cedeno who were way better than bonds through age 24. next, from age 34 on he was very injury prone, missing an average of 41 games per season. in those last 9 years, when he hit so very well, but missed over 25% of his teams games, he had lost his speed, he became a clear liability on defense, and he therefore was no longer an amazing ALL-AROUND player (he was a profoundly dominant hitter in this period though). he never had much of an arm at all. other than the 2002 post-season, he has no claim to clutch performance. his teams didnt win, despite the fact that some of them seemed like great teams on paper. he was obviously self-interested, rather than making even a small pretense of being a team guy. his quotes on the subject will prove this, i dont have to. on the positive side, from the ages of 25-33 he was one of the top all-around players the game has ever seen, and from the age of 36, he became nearly superman level with the bat. he was conclusively the best player of the 1990s, and, if one looks at hitting like its all that matters he was likely the player of the 2000s as well. he didnt however dominate these periods as much as other ballplayers or other athletes have dominated a time and place. (ruth in the 20s, mays from 54-65, joe morgan 72-77, wagner in the 1900s, cobb in the 1910s,josh gibson in the 1930s. or for that matter, compared to other athletes from the same exact period, bonds wasnt as dominant as michael jordan, pete sampras, or wayne gretzky. add now to all this, he not only used ped's (as many others did), but he wont admit it or take even a scrap of responsibility for that ( as many others have). all things considered, he's among the most talented (but not first place talent), he's among the best all-around and dominant from age 25-33(but again not first place) and he set offensive records late in his career when he was also hurt a lot, no longer fast, no longer a good fielder, and his teams never won. so to rank him as high as perhaps number 5 or 6 of all time could be reasonable, but isnt conclusive. in my opinion he wasnt among the top 30 in value to team wins. and , no offense intended , but it is somewhere between a falsehood and a sickening joke to call him the goat. of course he's way above the standard usually needed to get in the hall of fame, and i believe he will get there. i support that. but this nonsense about him being the greatest of them all is a display of ignorance of the game's history.
perfect example of why you think bonds is the best ever. because when it comes to baseball history, or how to properly evaluate players, you "wouldnt read all that" dear lord its 20,000 pages or more before you could even know who is the goat, let alone be qualified to tell others who it may be. i totally believe youre not reading all that.@@InDepthBaseballYT
I can easily say he disrespected the game , his teammates , his opponents, the media , the owners , and the fans. By his attitude and by cheating. You reap what you plant , he trash.
Barry Bonds is so great that he had to take steroids and wear rubber batting gloves to grip the bat and play in much smaller ballparks, to get a much worse lifetime slugging average than a pitcher.
Your nuts . He didnt save baseball. No 1 person is bigger than the game. Hey and didnt you see him play with all that plastic on him while batting. That protected him from getting hurt but he near stood on home plate. And either got a ton of walks , and on base getting hit and HOME RUNS because pitchers couldn't get ahead of him in the count
@@sir.muffiniii7011 I saw Hank Aaron play .and he didn't crowd the home plate because he couldn't. Pitchers were allowed to brush hitters back , weren't ejected. Aaron couldn't intimidate by batting close to the plate .he still hit 755 homeruns. And against better pitchers. The leagues were smaller
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No I do not think so he wasn’t even a career 300 hitter with all that cheating.
Not to mention Bonds never won a World Series and he absolutely sucked in 3 of his 4 playoff appearances.
Great player, top 30-35 all time…then steroids
@@michaeladams5636 The "GOAT" is a really tired topic. You cannot be better or worse than a player who didn't play in your era. That being said, Bonds is at worst the second best position player of his time. Griffey is the only one you could say was better. Griffey was a better outfielder (but actually probably not considering his recklessness led to injury) and had a better arm. Bonds had a better OBP and stole more bases. Other than that they were nearly identical (pre-bonds steroids, 1999).
@@Diesel-1185 Yeah but don’t forget Albert Belle, Frank Thomas and Jeff Bagwell.
The best complete player in my eyes has ever seen, thanks for the video. He should have won the MVP in 1991, he got the negative publicity at the start of the season due to Leyland correcting him at spring training. Bonds got off to a slow start that season and wasn't selected as an All Star (and this is even after winning the mvp in the previous season). Then they robbed him of the MVP award at the end of the season. The chewing out should have stayed in house and not gone viral for the whole world to see. That's what started the negative publicity with him and the media. Congrats to HOF Jim Leyland one of the best managers of that era. I went to a home Pirates game the next season and Bonds hit one in the upper deck in the first season. He just jogged around the bases as the organ played. He eventually won the 1992 MVP later that year. I can honestly say I saw the best baseball player in his prime.
Been saying it since 92. Barry Bonds will be/is the goat. That's saying a lot. And I've been around a while and saw some of the goats live. Mays, Aaron, etc.
Man I hope you finish this series! He’s my favorite baseball player!!
YES, mine too!
He is not the GOAT not even top 20.
I've been watching BB for 60yrs, and really watching for about 50. Barry is without a doubt the best player I have ever seen. I did see Mays, Mantle and Aaron. albeit late in their careers and past their prime, and never saw Cobb, Ruth, Williams or Musial, but since nobody asked, Barry Bonds is better than anybody I have ever seen.
Better than Griffey Jr?
@@l.r9655 Yes.
@@l.r9655Yes, no question. You actually asked?
I was born in 77. I only remember from 82 on. So I never saw anyone better than Barry Bonds. Even to this day. NOBODY!
@@l.r9655 Yes, and it isn't really close in my opinion. KGjr was a beautiful player and first ballot HOF without a doubt. However, if you run a head-to-head comparison, it's impossible to ignore a 162 - 83 WAR and more of everything stat wise. 3 numbers stand out: 3x SB, almost 3x IBB and for all the oohs and aahs KG provided on D, BB has an almost 4x D WAR.
Barry bonds is my homie fr... I use to be bat boy for the giants whenever they came to my city... I look at him as my big bro no cap... I can call him right now and chat with him... Love U Barry!!
send him the video then
Cap at a level that I can't even explain lol
@justvibing2497 no cap.. my uncle is Michael Jackson.. Barry best friend back in the day was my auntie DeeDee who was tito Jackson wife back then.. when my aunt passed (I believe around 94-96) he was at my Aunt's funeral and spoke.. from that day on we've became real close.. along with my dad Marlon Jackson who's my uncle Mike's brother... ever since then, I was the bat boy whenever they came into town... he had a house back then in Temecula california.. shit, you wouldn't believe me if I told u tony Gwynn jr. Use to be my best friend back in middle school.. I use to go to his house every weekend in Poway.. rip Mr. Gwynn.. really cool guy.. Bro...... I know people!!! I got true stories I can tell u bro...
If you’re not lying, this is wild lol.
@@fabiansybille1993 I'm not lying.. ain't no reason to.. I'm being fr and barry is kool af.. I can talk to him about my problems in life.. a real down to earth man..
I saw everyone from Mays/Mantle till now..... Barry is the best I've ever seen. Unlike others, he was hard to strike out and his production considering he was seeing 1 maybe 2 balls in the strike zone per game.....
Barry Bonds is the MLB GOAT, subscribed!!
LOL! That’s funny.
@@michaeladams5636and TRUE!
The writers and media made him out to be a villian. Dudes numbers before "roids" were ridiculous and then his stats on the giants are insane. Dude is the 🐐 hands down no matter which way people look at it.
His numbers before cheating were good; they were not ridiculous and nowhere near the best of all-time. The saddest part of this whole mess is all the fan-boys trying to defend his cheating. Rationalizing cheating says more about you than it does about Bonds.
@buckfan1969 cry about it everyone and their momma used something in that era but to single one guy outbwhen he was as great as he was just because is asinine. Look at the hof they let ortiz in who got popped but we have no legitimate proof of bonds every failing a test just speculation.
@buckfan1969 you have no idea what you're talking about. He was a top-10 player of all-time before PEDs.
No; more like top 50. Maybe. @@sinatra222
@@buckfan1969 Its not cheating when everyone was doing it, you just show how naive you are.
This was nicely done. I will be keeping up with the subsequent videos. Bonds from a numbers stand point is almost otherworldly 👽 but seriously, his pirates numbers are often overlooked and that was before the allegations. Pt 2 & 3 should be good 👍
Really appreciate it man! It was enjoyable to create
best video yet. keep it up indepth!!
Barry Bonds only struck out 100 times in a season once and it was his rookie season. He struck out 102 times and never struck out 100 times ever.
Look at the strike outs from leaders today and they hover close to 200 strike outs.
No one has better command of the strike zone than Barry. It's not even close.
Eagerly waiting for part 2!!!
So 7 months later, I don't see part 2 or 3 on your channel
Love the channel Bro
This is really well done, good job!
Thank you so much
lookin forward to the new one!!!
Not many will dispute his greatness. However you have 2 types of fans, those who can compartmentalize the steroid era as only one segment of Bonds career while accepting that many hitters and pitchers were doing the same thing and those who cannot accept that aspect of Bond’s career. To those who can’t accept it I say if roids helped him so much why was no other player remotely close to his numbers and being feared like him?
I’m 54 Pete rose was my all time favorite player but Barry bonds was the greatest hitter I’ve ever seen the year he hit 70 plus home runs he maybe had 80 pitches to hit most amazing thing I ever saw in baseball
Where is part 2?
A lot of salt in the comments. Theres just no denying what he accomplished no matter how hard u hate.
I don’t hate Bonds and I know his stats off by heart but he doesn’t compare to Babe Ruth.. even Manny Ramirez was a far superior hitter to Barry Bonds.
looking forward to next parts
Me too!
Griffey and bonds made the game look too easy. I always hoped they had played on the same team.
I've always loved Bonds! The best hitter I've ever seen in my 39 years of watching baseball
Watch Tony Gwynn sir, watch Miggy, this guy was a joke until steroids
@billysikes1374 Stop talking baseball the man was first ballot before he touched steroids he was better than both those bums as a natty facts. He had all 5 tools. Miggy was just a slugger and Gwynn had no power.
@@travisgrigsby330 you don't know shit, Bonds was a tiny bum in Pittsburgh lol Gwynn didn't need power, greatest hitter of all time, Shows wtf you know, Bonds will never, ever, be a HOFer, so get over it
@@travisgrigsby330 Miggy just a slugger lol You should be ashamed to even think about talking baseball with me, How many players have over 500 homeruns, over 3000 hits, 2 World Series rings with 2 garbage teams, Miami and Detroit, Just happened to be 1 of a very short few to win the Triple Crown
@@billysikes1374what could Miggy do other than hit home runs? How good gloves, stolen bases does he have???
He really does deserve to be in the HOF. He was a dick but that is not the judging criteria
Sadly it is in the voters criteria
I don't think he was a dick. Steroids shrinks that.
The GOAT!
No he isn’t that’s ridiculous with all his playoff personal failures and cheating Babe Ruth among many others like Lou Gehrig were twice as good as him.
@@michaeladams5636 I’m a Padres fan calling Barry Bonds the goat. Do you not understand that ?
@@kdogg1.0 So what if your a Padres fan look kid Sammy Sosa hit 60+ home runs in three out of four seasons.. Bonds only had one 50 plus home run season……..
IDC about roids, it saved baseball. The fact Bonds absolutely raked while being surrounded by controversy shows his greatness. The dude had over a 1.0 OPS his final season and no one would sign him. Best baseball player of all time. Theres no one even close, maybe Willie Mays or Hank Aaron, and theyre a distant second.
Where the second part
wheres part 2?
GOAT
A great player but a terrible dude. He took being an asshole to a whole new level. It's actually quite sad because he should be celebrate on the level of MJ
He was a hall of fame player before he was 28.
Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame also.
To much politics in baseball when you clearly have two of the best players not in the hall of fame, I call it the hall of shame. On one hand you got the home run king, berry Bonds. On the other the hit king Pete Rose. They both deserve to be in the Hall of fame.
That’s my opinion.
If Bonds admitted to taking steroids then yes he probably should be in the HOF. But since he wants to lie a be in denial I say keep him out.
Where’s the rest😭😭
He should have had 9 mvps.
At this point, the baseball HOF is a joke if the leader in HRs and leader in hits are both left out.
The guy had 495 home runs before the “cream “ and the “clear” and “Balco”
And , what people forget, he was hitting against pitchers who were juicing or taking growth hormone.
Just call the period from 1987 to 2007 the steroid era and give them an asterisk and put them in the hall of fame
Ppl already call it the “steroid era” no need for a * but if you wish to put an * on it than you gotta put one on everything including World Series wins* all records*, league leaders*, award winners* and HOF including commissioner during that era that allowed it to happen
Barry Bonds had the total package
Where is part 2 & 3?
YES GOAT. Only thing you could ding him on was he had an average throwing arm, or he was perfect.
It’s not Bobby Boneelia - it’s Bobby Bonilla (Bo-Nee-Ah)
He's a young guy that wasn't even around when he played. Give him a break.
NO !!! Willie Mays is the GOAT. Alot of players in his era lost years to the military like Ted Williams did also. But Willie Mays hit 660 HR's and over 3000 hits and stole over 300 bases and missed 3 years in his prime to go fight in the war. What would his stats be if he didn't.
Mayes was at bat 1,077 more times than Bonds.
Aaron was at bat 1.440 more times than Mayes
Aaron was at bat 3,965 more times than Ruth.
That good old boy shit was big time in mlb in the 80s and 90s
The GOAT is Willie Mays.
Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball player of all time.
I think he would be in the hall if he had been more likable. He is the best hitter I have seen.
He has 762 HR 514 stolen bases 7 MVP should have 10 and no HOF that’s sad. ⚾️
When second part?
And never failed a drug test ever
But everyone knows he is the biggest cheater of all time including you.
Name me the PED that helps you recognize a pitch faster, where to place the bat or which pitches to swing at……I’ll wait
No one is saying Gear didn’t help him or anyone else…..BUT this dude was just different, even amongst those who were using Gear. If Gear made everyone awesome, why did most of the guys who used it never reach his level?…….Barry is just different…..Call him every name in the book, he’s still on the Mt. Rushmore of Baseball.
@@Silver_79 well any steroid helps you hit the ball better because you can reach the ball quicker. I think Barry Bonds getting walked so much from the pitchers is what kept him from from being the GOAT. I mean if he got pitched to and drove in like 150+ runs from 2000-2004 he would be the GOAT of baseball but he never got pitched to enough.
@@michaeladams5636 "well any steroid helps you hit the ball better because you can reach the ball quicker"
I get what your saying but your statement is one about power/bat speed. No one with a functioning brain (honestly at least) is saying Gear didn't help his power/speed which translates to more homers.
I'm saying irrespective of any Gear name me the PED that helps a hitter see a pitch faster, recognize the type of pitch and where to place the bat....It doesn't exist. Barry ability to do those things at such a exceptional level is why he was so good as a hitter. IF his swing had started to slow down with age, he would have just adjusted the starting time of his swing to make contact.
Its highly unlikely Barry would be the HR king without "help", but his ability to know where to place his bat for the ball was nuts. That skill set had nothing to do with Gear.
Who’s here after watching untold on Netflix? 👀🍿
"Bobby Bonilia" 😂
He would of been the greatest of all time if he didn't fall into temptation.
He still is
I second that. Don’t care what anyone says he’s up there with Ruth, Mays, Aaron and Cobb
So really what I learned from this is that he should have even more MVPs lol. This dude will never be surpassed. Idc if he roided or not. Baseball was at a low before steroids. Barry Bonds was the greatest player in any era. He played in the steroid era, and was the greatest then. I think that proves he's the best lol.
When i was like 11 or 12 years old it would have been in 2001, 2002. Me and my cousins all wrote a letter to our favorite baseball player. Mine ofcourse was Barry Bonds. I wrote the letter and my grandma sent them all out. A month or so later i get an autographed Barry Bonds baseball card sent back to my in the mail. Put Barry in the Hall of Fame already... its ridiculous he hasnt been voted in yet.... him and Pete Rose
Wen part 2?
Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, and Ty Cobb are the three greatest baseball players ever.
Pujols.
Don’t forget Lou Gehrig and David Ortiz. I also think Alex Rodriguez had a slightly better career than Bonds even though Bonds had a few more MVPs. I don’t think deserved in MVP in 2003 I would have voted Pujols that year.
Barry Bonds is the GOAT 🐐. Mays is second, Aaron third, Pedro Martinez 4th (best pitcher ever IMO at his peak).
Bobby Bo-Neal-ya?😂😂😂
The fact he is on the argument for being the GOAT and not in the hall of fame because of suspicion which whier never proven is crazy meanwhile Ty Cobb racist ass is just chilling and Pete Rose literally gambled on the game and still got in.
I agree but Pete Rose isnt in the HOF.
Not goat but babe Ruth is the goat
@@magicjohnson-o4lNOPE
Pete Rose should be in the HOF
Michael Adam's, Sosa career stats 273 ba, 609 hrs, 1667 rbi, 878 ops, Now Bonds 298 ba, 762 hrs, 1996 rbi, 2227 runs, ops 1.051. End of debate, stop with your nonsense.
Tbh it sounds like he tanked that 91 playoff performance on purpose.
Anyone with enough power to do that will do that. He had the power to do that
why would he do that? Every player wants to win the world series
Saw him play when he fiest came to SF, before the juice. Changed him from one of the greatest left fielders ever into a DH. Pre steroids he could hit and run like a deer, after he could hit with better power
easily the goat, 411 homers before juicing lmao
Newest data in. Top ten alltime:
Bonds
Mays
Ruth
Aaron
Gehrig
Arod
Musial
Frank Robinson
DiMaggio
Bench
There it is from the experts panel headed by me. Now you can go back to your groups and discuss our decisions. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bench top 10 all time is crazy
No Cobb?
The GOAT is Griffey Jr snd and he didn't have to cheat the game.
Ken griffey is not even a top 10 outfielder of all time, respectfully
@@InDepthBaseballYT Wow. Now that's just plain ignorant. 🤣
@@InDepthBaseballYT He was named the 13th best baseball player of All Time. Where the fuck were you during the 90's?
Griffey is too 10 for sure but bonds is better
You telling me you rather have JR over BB? 😂😂😂
go try to hit a baseball. Its insanely hard. Hitting homeruns has a a lot more to do with being able to "get your pitch" which means fouling balls off that arent your pitch and seeing for your pitch, then reacting.... steroids or not..... muscle is still only maybe 8% of the equation at best
Dan
Barry bonds was one of the best players ever. But because of the ped allegations and his massive ego he chose to take performance enhancing drugs. And because of that decision, his legacy will always be tainted.
Damn, the guy couldn't even clean up after himself, the long kitchen counter in his San Francisco condo always littered with boxes and bottle of steroids, cotton balls and syringes... Granted, every player on his team couldn't stand him, but I think that was because he brutally beat up his wife so often... I only ran into the guy once, when I was standing next to a little black girl who handed Bonds a new baseball and a Sharpie and asked "Mr. Bonds" for his autograph, only to be told, "You'll have to see my people about that" aka buy one... Hell of a guy. Yeah, hell's a good word.
That's slander. Bonds didn't live in a condo in sf he owned a home in Atherton. None of the abuse allega were ever substantiated in fact courts found his ex wife liable financially. I never saw him treat any child poorly in fact he did sign alot of autographs.
@@Jeff-sp7bg Atherton, Marin, San Francisco, Riverside, Temecula... Yeah, Bonds has had some real estate holdings in his life. His condo with the long kitchen counter littered with boxes and bottle of steroids, cotton balls and syringes in SF was on South Van Ness, just south of Market. Minutes from Pac Bell Park, he had a good view. With access to the entirety of Candlestick Park before, during and after games, I regularly encountered Bonds, and regularly encountering Bonds results in consistently encountering his exhibiting cruelty to everyone as a matter of course. Real talk.
@clifford7594 sounds like sour grapes to me. Don't be jealous he's moved on and is enjoying life you should too.
@@Jeff-sp7bg OK, you don't understand... words, context... life... Bonds isn't enjoying his life. Never has, never will. He's dumb, scared, angry and regularly violent. I ain't got that. Heading out for a tasty lunch now with a happy, smart and beautiful woman and her dog on a sunny day, Cool Cliff.
When OFF THE JUICE..YEAH HOF ALL THE WAY. NOW, NOT SO MUCH
Bonds was a very good player before he started juicing, but he wasn't close to being the goat. People who don't know hitting say getting stronger doesn't help the hitter make contact, but that's absolutely not true. The stronger the hitter is, the quicker his bat will be. That means he can wait longer before committing on a pitch. And that means they don't get fooled as often, and of course the quicker bat makes the ball go further. It's not rocket science, folks; the cheating is the sole reason he has the numbers he has now. Sans cheating he probably finishes around Frank Robinson in home runs and rbi.
Nice to see Barry before the gigantisism kicked in.
No lie, I would be interested to see his hat size as a Pirate vs homerun champ??
Greatest of all time what...CHEAT?
Promo sm 😁
You don't know how to pronounce Bobby Bonilla? Bonilla is said like "Tortilla".
0 rings ! Pitch to my daddy cheater!
Steroids baby babe Ruth #1
Maybe he would have been the goat, but since he decided to take steroids that changed his legacy. Steroids took away something he could possibly have been without even taking them sad. You can't call someone the goat who takes steroids if you are a true sports fan.
You clearly dont watch baseball if you cant pronounce Bobby Bonilla's name correctly. In addition to being a great player, his name gets brought up every year to this day on the date the Mets pay him.
Need to start a petition. Barry bonds not in the HOF is an injustice to the sport
Rampant cheating was an injustice to those playing the game using their natural gifts. 😠
@@GizmoBeach he didn’t cheat . Hitting a 100 mph fastball steroid or not he deserves to be in the hof . Saying he cheated is like saying Pete rose cheated . They need to stop being stupid
Threw like a girl, teammates hated him, took roids, i hate this dude, but i must admit, Bonds on roids was the best hitter I ever saw. Still threw like a girl.
Sadly, Barry Bonds will never be considered the GOAT by those whose opinions matter and is extraordinarily unlikely to get into the hall of fame due to his heavy use of anabolic steroids. As a player gets older in the game, it's only natural that their numbers trail off. However, in his thirties, Bonds not only became a chiseled Adonis but his numbers went through the roof. I'm sorry if this hurts the feelings of his fan base but it's the undeniable truth. Somewhere his father is spinning in his grave.
How can he be the GOAT, when NOOOO MLB team even wanted him towards the end of his tenure, which you say is the greatest period, of ANY PLAYER, EVER? But no one wanted THE GOAT!?
I think you know the answer to that. And it doesn't help the point you think you're making
@@InDepthBaseballYT sure buddy, I like the video, great job, editing is top notch. Just weird that you could be the the GREATEST OF ALL TIME, and nobody wants you? You could have the best 4 years of your career AFTER your 35 years and indeed, the bestest 4 seasons evaaaar. Lemme ask, if you make a GOAT list from the 4 major American sports, how many of them have 0 championships?
Alright, good talk.
Greatest player to use steroids lol not in top 10 as a pirate, he was a puny guy, Let's be real
JUICER
i truly don't care what some people say, roids will not improve your swing, it won't help a batter see the ball better, mcgwire was a beast in oakland with canseco, etc... the bonds haters are idjits.
The biggest cheater. The most bogus records. He didn't need steroids but he used them because others got more attention than he did. That was childish of him and like a really large baby he is now getting spanked by reality just like McGuire, Sosa, Clemons et al. I think he would have gotten in except for the cheating. And has anyone noticed the Most of the other cheats ain't there either?
Maybe he was going to be the best of all time but sad that we will never know if have home run record for season and career have carrer batting avg of 298. With out use of steroids. Mlb ban the use of psd in 1991 so he knew. He might have been a the hall fame player. But we never know for sure. The media and sport writers did not keep him out hall of fame he did it himself.
lets break down a few things, as you have attempted to do here. without any discussion of roids until other facts are out of the way. in his first 4 years (through age 24) he wasnt great yet. many were great before that age, off the top of my head there is williams, mays, mantle ,ruth, grffey, a-rod, ed matthews, jimmie foxx, cobb, and thats not counting, pitchers, or players who didnt sustain a high level (like vada pinson or cecar cedeno who were way better than bonds through age 24. next, from age 34 on he was very injury prone, missing an average of 41 games per season. in those last 9 years, when he hit so very well, but missed over 25% of his teams games, he had lost his speed, he became a clear liability on defense, and he therefore was no longer an amazing ALL-AROUND player (he was a profoundly dominant hitter in this period though). he never had much of an arm at all. other than the 2002 post-season, he has no claim to clutch performance. his teams didnt win, despite the fact that some of them seemed like great teams on paper. he was obviously self-interested, rather than making even a small pretense of being a team guy. his quotes on the subject will prove this, i dont have to. on the positive side, from the ages of 25-33 he was one of the top all-around players the game has ever seen, and from the age of 36, he became nearly superman level with the bat. he was conclusively the best player of the 1990s, and, if one looks at hitting like its all that matters he was likely the player of the 2000s as well. he didnt however dominate these periods as much as other ballplayers or other athletes have dominated a time and place. (ruth in the 20s, mays from 54-65, joe morgan 72-77, wagner in the 1900s, cobb in the 1910s,josh gibson in the 1930s. or for that matter, compared to other athletes from the same exact period, bonds wasnt as dominant as michael jordan, pete sampras, or wayne gretzky. add now to all this, he not only used ped's (as many others did), but he wont admit it or take even a scrap of responsibility for that ( as many others have). all things considered, he's among the most talented (but not first place talent), he's among the best all-around and dominant from age 25-33(but again not first place) and he set offensive records late in his career when he was also hurt a lot, no longer fast, no longer a good fielder, and his teams never won. so to rank him as high as perhaps number 5 or 6 of all time could be reasonable, but isnt conclusive. in my opinion he wasnt among the top 30 in value to team wins. and , no offense intended , but it is somewhere between a falsehood and a sickening joke to call him the goat. of course he's way above the standard usually needed to get in the hall of fame, and i believe he will get there. i support that. but this nonsense about him being the greatest of them all is a display of ignorance of the game's history.
not reading all that
perfect example of why you think bonds is the best ever. because when it comes to baseball history, or how to properly evaluate players, you "wouldnt read all that" dear lord its 20,000 pages or more before you could even know who is the goat, let alone be qualified to tell others who it may be. i totally believe youre not reading all that.@@InDepthBaseballYT
Dude its a joke and anyone who says bonds isn't the GOAT is usually wrong anyways
He didn’t read all of that but I’m sure he read the 409 pages of Mitchell report
@ice-iu3vv who you got as the GOAT in LF?
I can easily say he disrespected the game , his teammates , his opponents, the media , the owners , and the fans. By his attitude and by cheating. You reap what you plant , he trash.
Not trash , just a bad teammate
Ah yes the all time HR leader is tras
So harsh but I’m sure you favorite team had cheaters too. Your comment is 🗑️
Bonds is the GOAT 🐐
It’s just too bad his character and his attitude didn’t match his talent.
He dosent even come close to his godfather. That man would be willie mays😂😮😅
Remember there’s a reason he’s not in The Hall. 💉 😂
Just like manny Ramírez right?
Or are you too sped to know who he is?
@@Teootron Yeah just like Man Ram.
@@Teootron Up to speed for sure Sucka. I definitely know my baseball ✌️
@@Teootron Let’s not forget Clemens
Barry Bonds is so great that he had to take steroids and wear rubber batting gloves to grip the bat and play in much smaller ballparks, to get a much worse lifetime slugging average than a pitcher.
Griffey , Ichiro , Thome were more popular
Jim thome was not more popular than Barry Bonds. Youre just saying sh*t to say sh*t now
Ken Griffey Jr is the only one you mentioned who was more popular than Barry Bonds. Jim Thome!! 🤦🏾♂️😆😆🤣🤣😆
@@potentially__9445 with Me .
He hit 773 homer’s this is a stupid video
Your nuts . He didnt save baseball. No 1 person is bigger than the game. Hey and didnt you see him play with all that plastic on him while batting. That protected him from getting hurt but he near stood on home plate. And either got a ton of walks , and on base getting hit and HOME RUNS because pitchers couldn't get ahead of him in the count
They couldn't get ahead because bonds was too good
@@sir.muffiniii7011 I saw Hank Aaron play .and he didn't crowd the home plate because he couldn't. Pitchers were allowed to brush hitters back , weren't ejected. Aaron couldn't intimidate by batting close to the plate .he still hit 755 homeruns. And against better pitchers. The leagues were smaller
@@mariocisneros911 ok, how is that bond’s fault, it wasn’t against the rules so why do you care
Aaron was great so was Bonds
The greatest to ever do it