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  • Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
  • Federal regulators approved an inspection process that will allow Boeing's 737 Max 9 jetliners to take to the skies once again, following a recent incident where a side panel came off of a plane mid-flight. But some people are not happy with the aviation company. Allied Pilots Association spokesperson Capt. Dennis Tajer joins "NewsNation Now" to discuss Boeing's safety procedures. "Boeing is failing right now to produce a reliable, and most importantly, safe product on a consistent basis. [...] The FAA has just got to stop this madness," Tajer says.
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Комментарии • 898

  • @eddieraffs5909
    @eddieraffs5909 4 месяца назад +435

    Anyone expecting the FAA to do anything substantial about Boeing isn't following the money trail.

    • @elbuggo
      @elbuggo 4 месяца назад

      They are pushing dieworseity over safety anyway.

    • @fluoxethine
      @fluoxethine 4 месяца назад

      In US bribery is legal and it's called lobbying. Also no one from Boeing or FAA is in jail after 737 Max 8 tragedy. This is how rotten then justice in the US is.

    • @Raptorman0909
      @Raptorman0909 4 месяца назад +14

      Yeah, but the money issue isn't one issue it's several issues. Companies in many industries hire lobbyists (cut outs) to grease the palms of politicians in order to get regulations cut or to pressure the agency to not investigate them. They also push to have the agencies budget cut or flatlined to limit the agency from doing their job. The FAA should be deeply involved in the certification process, but because they do not have the people to do that job the task is partially outsourced to ... wait for it ... Boeing. Repeat after me ... the fox guarding the hen house!
      The FAA had been a world class agency respected around the world such that when the FAA certified an airplane the rest of the world said ... good enough for me! That is no longer the case as the agency has been hollowed out -- BY DESIGN!

    • @F-14_Jockey
      @F-14_Jockey 4 месяца назад

      The FAA makes more problems than it fixes.

    • @Elizabeth-tg7jo
      @Elizabeth-tg7jo 4 месяца назад +8

      No, I think the FAA has balls. They just need an AirTag to find them.

  • @martentrudeau6948
    @martentrudeau6948 4 месяца назад +132

    The Captain sounds like a good man.

    • @MikeWiggins1235711
      @MikeWiggins1235711 4 месяца назад +4

      martentrudeau6948: Agreed! I hope NewsNation keeps this well-spoken aviation professional on tap for any future aviation-related commentary. Lord knows the news media needs more aviation-savvy journalists and sources who actually have licenses instead of looking for answers to the VERY important "how do you feel about ..." question.

    • @martentrudeau6948
      @martentrudeau6948 4 месяца назад +5

      @@MikeWiggins1235711 ~ Boeing Corporation and the FAA have a cozy relationship, that's a problem, the FAA should only be concerned about keeping Boeing planes safe, and not about Boeing's profits.

    • @user-xl6ji9tk9n
      @user-xl6ji9tk9n 2 месяца назад +2

      He was contributor to a Frontline documentary about Boeing MCAS debacle. And when he talked about how the young LionAir copilot did everything right (according to Boeing) and still died, he got emotional. You could see how much he felt for a fellow pilot he didn't even know. Good man

  • @Peringrid
    @Peringrid 4 месяца назад +310

    We can address this as passengers by refusing to book on any Max flight

    • @digidol52
      @digidol52 4 месяца назад +34

      I think many people will do this (including me) but airlines often substitute aircraft at the last minute.

    • @Dhh77
      @Dhh77 4 месяца назад +16

      @@digidol52Exactly what they will do.

    • @carystevensky
      @carystevensky 4 месяца назад +20

      Don’t fly the MAX!

    • @Peringrid
      @Peringrid 4 месяца назад +7

      I believe that you refuse to accept any airplane substitute according to the Montreal convention.

    • @gonenguldal5782
      @gonenguldal5782 4 месяца назад +14

      @@digidol52 and that’s when you step off the airplane, tell the airline the reason and just wait for the next flight

  • @BangkokZed
    @BangkokZed 4 месяца назад +66

    "Off airport landing" what's next - "negative passenger delivery outcome", where is George Carlin when we really need him.

    • @willemhaifetz-chen1588
      @willemhaifetz-chen1588 3 месяца назад +6

      Really Good. His Spirit is still here as you have just proven. GREAT

    • @XKLIX
      @XKLIX 2 месяца назад +1

      Priceless. Just what Carlin would have said. RIP

  • @tomarmstrong1281
    @tomarmstrong1281 4 месяца назад +80

    As a retired commercial pilot, I miss my job and my colleagues, but I am not sorry to be free of the pressure. Pressure for which, most of the time, ought not to be there. There ought not to be a conflict between profit and flight safety. Flight safety is part of the cost of running a successful aerospace industry, at all levels.

    • @waltbroedner4754
      @waltbroedner4754 4 месяца назад +2

      I am afraid that that is the very definition of capitalism, the on going conflict between profit and was is right.

    • @tomarmstrong1281
      @tomarmstrong1281 4 месяца назад

      @@waltbroedner4754 I do not entirely agree. Ultimately, if a company brings damaged goods to the marketplace, the company will fail. However, because all humans are imperfect, there is always a need for checks and balances, and as much as we hate them, rules and regulations.

    • @SL-bn8qb
      @SL-bn8qb 4 месяца назад +2

      With the exception of military aviation, where "acceptable" loss is "expected" of cutting-edge military jets, (civil flight safety had been, and should be returned as Boeing's prime "directive").

    • @johnchristmas7522
      @johnchristmas7522 4 месяца назад

      The real problem, is right across ALL American businesses. The DOLLAR first and f... everything else. Just take a look across the spectrum of top CEO's. GREED runs rampant.and is condoned by government via cash handouts. Look into Boeings business practices, nothing nice there.

    • @tomarmstrong1281
      @tomarmstrong1281 4 месяца назад +1

      @@johnchristmas7522 I discovered the truth of that when on one occasion I was sent from my home country to participate in a university research program in America.

  • @PerfectInterview
    @PerfectInterview 4 месяца назад +100

    It’s not just the CEO. He’s there by approval of the board. The entire board needs to go.

    • @Ara-wo6wk
      @Ara-wo6wk 4 месяца назад

      Ban Weed! Or stop people in the travel industry from smoking! Drug test everyone!

    • @jmseipp
      @jmseipp 3 месяца назад

      No, the republicans need to stop defunding government agencies like the FAA!

  • @michaelallen1396
    @michaelallen1396 4 месяца назад +38

    33 years of line and hangar maintenance on jets, this pilot was right on the money about all of it. The most important thing is standards must be maintained in every sphere, it's the reason flying is so safe for the public, marginal and underperforming people should not be allowed to pass through in critical safety positions- lives depend on it.

  • @markw1123
    @markw1123 4 месяца назад +162

    "Defending negative inputs keeps the focus off the bigger picture". As a commercial pilot I can tell you this is the heart of the matter. Too many distractions in a system which is running full speed.

    • @plav032
      @plav032 4 месяца назад +9

      Not just pilots, I feel this in maintenance also, we are constantly being asked to do more with less, and in less time. Most of us have learnt how to push back against the pressure to put safety aside, but human factors happen.

    • @artgreen6915
      @artgreen6915 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@plav032 This is where the FAA should have your back so it isn't just up to you to fend off inappropriate pressures.
      Speaking from Britain, tell me if I'm out of line, but I feel there's a nationalistic/protectionist element that's crept into the FAAs priorities somehow. I don't think the Americans have a sufficiently good system to keep politics separated when necessary. They even have a Supreme Court whereby whichever president is in power rejoices in stuffing with the most party flag waving candidates they can find every chance they get. Unsurprisingly it's increasingly polarised. Doesn't the president appoint the head of the FAA too, picked over by Congress? No doubt another obligation to show their faithful how they've picked someone to 'stand up for America' likely in the short term. The best way to stand up for America long term would be for regulators to keep American companies honest with their quality - after all they CAN be really successful when they get it right.
      After the 737 Max crashes, stories came out that for certification of the aircraft the FAA had almost gone native at Boeing.

    • @artgreen6915
      @artgreen6915 4 месяца назад +1

      I just did some Googling to see if I was being unfair or inaccurate, but I rapidly found an NPR article from March 26 2023 entitled:
      "President Biden's nominee to head the FAA has withdrawn after Republican criticism"
      I am not attacking either political party here, it seems if you read the article there were concerns from moderates about the candidate, as well as some anti-Democrat-nominee tribalism from Republicans.
      Particular concerning was the line 'The FAA has lacked a Senate-confirmed administrator since March 2022'.
      Far from dispelling the fears I outlined in my previous comment, this article seemed to almost perfectly back them up. Worth a quick read, it's easy to find.
      I just thought is it right to drag that type of appointment through such a politically charged process. But it seems for all key federal positions that's how USA does it.

    • @aixtom979
      @aixtom979 4 месяца назад

      @@plav032 I have the same pressure in IT. And I guess things like that also played a role in the NOTAM outage at the FAA themselves on January 11, 2023, which grounded all planes nationwide for two hours.

    • @plav032
      @plav032 4 месяца назад

      @artgreen6915 I can't comment to that as I'm actually Canadian, but these pressures still exist, Transport Canada and the FAA need to have the power to hold these corporations accountable, but they rely on declining public funding, and industry experience to fill their ranks, and that's been a huge issue for us in Canada, our industry has been uncutting wages for decades and its pushed many experienced people out of the aviation sector to pursue more lucrative opportunities, and most of us are multi faceted, we can adapt to many industries and we are highly skilled.
      This has been a huge brain drain on the entire industry from apprentices, engineers, to directors of maintenance departments, and even regulators as majority are high experienced engineers that seek those jobs.

  • @user-qe3cf3yi6r
    @user-qe3cf3yi6r 4 месяца назад +87

    I worked for the Boeing Company for 36 years, and for most of that time I was very proud of the products. Every part of every plane was made of the highest quality, and assembled by skilled workers who knew how to do it right.Then, a couple of years before I retired, everything started to get cheapened. That wasn't a mistake; it was a conscious decision to attempt to save money by getting workers to do more, for less. As an executive admitted to me personally, he simply asked everyone to do the same job for 10 percent less this year, and they somehow did it, making him look good. Then next year, the same for 10% less cost. The problem is, if you keep cheapening everything by ten percent every year, eventually important tasks just don't get done, and the workers stop caring. Now, this executive's cost cutting made him famous, so they kicked him upstairs to Quality Assurance for the 737 division. Why am I not surprised at todays ongoing 737 screwups?

    • @johnfranchina84
      @johnfranchina84 4 месяца назад +16

      I am an Engineer and I worked for a company where the GM of Operations’ bonus was linked to cost savings on his budget. Not only did he achieve cost cutting targets, he excelled and hit double digit budget savings. Within 5 years the company went bust due to customers walking away from broken products.

    • @kenbrownfield6584
      @kenbrownfield6584 4 месяца назад

      It's all about the bonuses . Profit over people. @@johnfranchina84

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 4 месяца назад +2

      sounds like your gonna get served a court summons by a sheriff, for the $10 billion lawsuit against boeing....as if boeing cares!! market cap $500B

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 4 месяца назад +6

      i remember a few years back, the FAA start letting BOEING "self certify and calibrate"!!! WTF😳😳😳👏☠️☠️💩💩

    • @kommsofort6977
      @kommsofort6977 4 месяца назад +5

      I won't fly now, unless it's on an AIRBUS.

  • @mattnoeth4373
    @mattnoeth4373 4 месяца назад +38

    I appreciate pilots like this American Airlines pilot whose focus is SAFETY FIRST. For nearly 40 years I worked closely with these professional pilots and skilled maintenance staff. Although delays of any kind are an annoyance to some, I'd rather be delayed than dead. Never rush safety!
    Next time you're 'delayed on-the-ground (terra firma) thank the airline staff, buy yourself AND them a cup of coffee and breath a sigh of relief that someone you don't know has YOUR best interests , YOUR life, as their focus.
    That, dear fellow travelers, should give you pause to treat others as you would like to be treated. Fairly.

    • @TheRealWindlePoons
      @TheRealWindlePoons 4 месяца назад +4

      "I'd rather be delayed than dead. Never rush safety! "
      I used to fly regularly on a tiny regional airline flying small turboprops. Flights were often delayed (after a four hour delay I was once told "we had to change a propeller"). Once in the air I never had a single scary moment - which is exactly the way it should be.

  • @MusicalMemeology
    @MusicalMemeology 4 месяца назад +61

    It’s really hard to understand how Boeing thought selling off a company that makes 70% of their planes was a good idea. They’ve outsourced their company! Absolute madness.

    • @bartsolari5035
      @bartsolari5035 4 месяца назад +1

      So is the I Phone

    • @spikespeigel2712
      @spikespeigel2712 4 месяца назад

      Airbus does the same. Muh outsourcing.

    • @alexwyler4570
      @alexwyler4570 4 месяца назад +6

      Greed. The executives got to make their 50 million a year somehow. What does it matter if people die. The excecutives get to keep all their millions. Furthermore, anytime the board, people who have no idea what makes a plane fly, announces the layoff of skilled workers, the stock goes way up. Reaganism. Greed is Good.

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 4 месяца назад

      They'll probably never be able to get that 70% back.

    • @Travisesty
      @Travisesty 4 месяца назад +1

      Wrong…..Airbus does a little but they make there own acft and assemble it!!!

  • @daklakdigital3691
    @daklakdigital3691 4 месяца назад +149

    YOU HAVE TO LOVE PR TALK.
    A "CRASH" is now called "OFF AIRPORT LANDING". Great phrase!

    • @Aerospace_Education
      @Aerospace_Education 4 месяца назад +1

      What goes up must come down :)

    • @monitor1725
      @monitor1725 4 месяца назад +1

      Or an H.I.L., High Impact Landing.

    • @phillee2814
      @phillee2814 4 месяца назад +8

      No doubt following the "unscheduled rapid disassembly" of the cowling and whatever it takes with it, with "early and unauthorised disembarkation" of any passengers unfortunate enough to be seated next to the hole.

    • @billybob7891
      @billybob7891 4 месяца назад +6

      George Carlin

    • @57Jimmy
      @57Jimmy 4 месяца назад

      Boeing, FAA and others using ‘Off Airport Landing’ phrase, is no different than the military using the term ‘Collateral Damage’
      End result…innocent people die.

  • @utoob7361
    @utoob7361 4 месяца назад +116

    My guess is that the FAA is terrified that a real investigation would loop right back onto them.

    • @jeffsframe9927
      @jeffsframe9927 4 месяца назад +5

      As it should

    • @Hurpdurpdipidydoo
      @Hurpdurpdipidydoo 4 месяца назад +3

      Absolutely

    • @alexwyler4570
      @alexwyler4570 4 месяца назад

      FAA has no power. It is just there to be blamed by ignorant people.

    • @summeraahmad5758
      @summeraahmad5758 4 месяца назад +2

      Welcome to merica the land of the “free”

    • @MathieuDeVinois
      @MathieuDeVinois 4 месяца назад

      And it would. Half of the problems they know about but don’t care. FAA basically is Boeing. They will just do enough to save their face.

  • @Newlyfound
    @Newlyfound 4 месяца назад +73

    I was apprentice aircraft technician and guys in my hanger were calling problems with the max way before it took to the skies, saying there would be a COG shift issue due to the larger engines.. then bam 2 crashes caused by some software that wouldn't even be needed if the aircraft didn't want to tip backwards in-flight because it's not balanced. This whole aircraft fleet and project needs to be scrapped.

    • @BS-eh1zf
      @BS-eh1zf 4 месяца назад +13

      As much as I love to rant about the 737 Max and the creative engineering they had come up with to make these bigger engines and longer planes work (e.g. the telecope gear on the -10s) I have to say that's not correct. The 737 Max is not unstable (even not a little bit). The MCAS system was only introduced to emulate the behaviour during late go arounds. In this situation the Max has a bigger pitch up tendency than the previous 737 NG. This could have been solved with simulator training for flightcrews. But this additional training effort would have been a major(?) drawback in comparison to the A320 where transitioning from ceo to neo doesn't require additional simulator training. So Boeing opted to build the MCAS and made two mistakes. Not pointing it out enough to the flight crews and not implementing it fail safe in the first place.

    • @ljthirtyfiver
      @ljthirtyfiver 4 месяца назад +3

      @@BS-eh1zfthey could’ve jus made the aircraft taller (as tall as the Airbus) and fit in the engines exactly as they are on the NG . I mean sure it’s too simple a fix but they changed the aircraft aerodynamically anyway which led them to install that overcompensating mcas system. But really the problem stems from the aircraft being too short . The neos have bigger engines but because the Airbus has the height of a respectable plane it was no issue. From the pilots perspective in the cockpit ….the aircraft is severely outdated but bearable .

    • @martinwhite418
      @martinwhite418 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ljthirtyfiver How would you make the Max "taller"?

    • @ljthirtyfiver
      @ljthirtyfiver 4 месяца назад

      @@martinwhite418 they changed the landing gear on the max ten I’m sure they could’ve done it overall . That’s assuming we’re still talking about not overhauling the 737 in the first place which is what they should’ve done .

    • @sergiosilveira5235
      @sergiosilveira5235 4 месяца назад

      ​@@BS-eh1zfYou can say that for a thousand years and people you continue saying BS. Heavier engines will move CG to the front thus making the aircraft even more stable. But people will continue saying the max is some kind of unstable fighter aircraft

  • @marksmith2913
    @marksmith2913 4 месяца назад +185

    Greed before safety

    • @rayparas2974
      @rayparas2974 4 месяца назад

      its been greed in USA before anything actually

    • @geneticdisorder1900
      @geneticdisorder1900 4 месяца назад +2

      Welcome to Merika

    • @jasono2139
      @jasono2139 4 месяца назад +4

      "Diversity" before competency

    • @plav032
      @plav032 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jasono2139 I'm not convinced this aspect isn't cost cutting in disguise

    • @jasono2139
      @jasono2139 4 месяца назад +2

      @plav032 the cost cut is partly due to wasting money on pointless diversity crap... same thing.

  • @Lukeduke7773
    @Lukeduke7773 4 месяца назад +35

    The anti-ice issue potentially/probably leading to an uncontained catastrophic dual engine failure is terrifying, the general public doesn’t realize how serious that is. I’m a CPL & I will not fly on the MAX.

    • @eamonhannon1103
      @eamonhannon1103 3 месяца назад +1

      What is a CPL ? . Try not to use industry jargon .

    • @Lukeduke7773
      @Lukeduke7773 3 месяца назад +2

      @@eamonhannon1103 apologies. Commercial pilot’s license.

    • @XKLIX
      @XKLIX 2 месяца назад

      @@eamonhannon1103 There is Google. unless you are from China or russia.

  • @tringalij
    @tringalij 4 месяца назад +57

    I love that line… “stop putting errors into my cockpit.” So true. I hate all the little “work arounds” we need to do to get things working. Not really anything to complain about on the 757 & 767s I fly, but I used to fly the 737 NG series and what a pile of junk they were.

  • @franckozzy7979
    @franckozzy7979 4 месяца назад +12

    This guy makes so much sense. My hero of the day.

  • @watomb
    @watomb 4 месяца назад +26

    They need to move headquarters back to Seattle and have them sit with engineers. They should also fire any manager that was never engineer

    • @neeneko
      @neeneko 4 месяца назад +1

      I am not sure getting rid of the MBAs would realy do it though. there are plenty of engineers in the upper ranks, but they were promoted because they had the same culture/values as the people running the place, so they are just as bad.

    • @watomb
      @watomb 4 месяца назад

      @@neeneko when ceo talks about travel all the time there your sign of a problem. Many people with MBA have engineering degrees

  • @alessandropbr
    @alessandropbr 4 месяца назад +11

    "Sometimes commercial interests have to just take the back seat for safety. As a matter of fact, always".
    Perfect!

  • @Johntheheadache
    @Johntheheadache 4 месяца назад +88

    Part of the process to re-certify the Max 9 airworthiness should include : If another plane goes down, Boeing's CEO should immediately be taken into custody.

    • @harveysmith100
      @harveysmith100 4 месяца назад +9

      If they made that law, watch the safety return

    • @kingsleykronkk3925
      @kingsleykronkk3925 4 месяца назад +6

      Will happen... When pigs can fly.

    • @GSHAPIROY
      @GSHAPIROY 4 месяца назад +2

      Good idea!

    • @rizwanwasi7019
      @rizwanwasi7019 4 месяца назад +8

      Real culprit ran away with 65 million bucks as bonus after causing 300 deaths.

    • @deang5622
      @deang5622 4 месяца назад +1

      The planes experiencing difficulties are down to assembly problems which is not to do with the certification process.
      The FAA certification process is not an assembly line quality management system (QMS).
      The issue of the engine de-icer is a certification issue.
      The MCAS was a certification issue.

  • @allentate3760
    @allentate3760 4 месяца назад +102

    Boeing CEO needs to go. He already owns enough yachts

    • @murrethmedia
      @murrethmedia 4 месяца назад +12

      The entire management needs to go.

    • @scottolee1599
      @scottolee1599 4 месяца назад +7

      Yeah, but he needs money for all the fuel for those yatchs!

    • @TheRealWindlePoons
      @TheRealWindlePoons 4 месяца назад +1

      Perhaps he's shooting for an Elon Musk salary.

  • @beanotraffini681
    @beanotraffini681 4 месяца назад +11

    My brother had Boeing as a major client until a couple of years ago (when he retired), and he said it was common knowledge amongst the staff at the company that they were building airplanes too quickly and should slow production way down!

  • @BrownsburgKevin
    @BrownsburgKevin 4 месяца назад +22

    When accountants run an aerospace company.

  • @redwithblackstripes
    @redwithblackstripes 4 месяца назад +42

    Rudder assemblies with missing bolts, what the fuck? What kind of madness is going on!

    • @ahndeux
      @ahndeux 4 месяца назад +2

      The bolts are not missing on the rudder assemblies. The guy has no clue what he is saying or misspoke. The nuts on some of the tie rod bolts were either loose or it came off on the control links. Its likely the person who installed it didn't install the locking cotter pin and the nut vibrated loose. Luckily, the bolt was still attached so the rudder was still able to actuate. It was found by a mechanic doing inspection in the area. It might have been a one-time issue, but an alert bulletin was sent out for airlines to make sure there were no other similar incidents. We haven't heard of other similar findings on other airplanes after the bullet was sent out.
      As for the door plug, that was a different situation. Other airlines found loose bolts in that assembly and its not clear at this point what caused those bolts to become loose.

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 4 месяца назад +5

      What’s happening? DEI is everywhere

    • @alexwyler4570
      @alexwyler4570 4 месяца назад

      No. just Greed. Reaganism. "corporate raiding". The less skilled workers Boeing has, the more the stock prices go up, the more the executives bonuses go up. International businesses are just a cash grab, building a product is irrelevant. The executives will cash-grab everything out of Boeing until there is no Boeing and gazillion people lose their jobs. The Capitalism of today. @@allgrainbrewer10

    • @user-tt6il2up4o
      @user-tt6il2up4o 4 месяца назад

      ⁠, yes but it happens on junk made by Boeing.
      We don’t see this on airbus.
      Comac planes are safer than Boeing

    • @Pomelu
      @Pomelu 4 месяца назад +2

      That’s a bit more alarming than the doors😅

  • @Archonch
    @Archonch 4 месяца назад +12

    Total respect for this captain.

  • @Hypersonic-es6vh
    @Hypersonic-es6vh 4 месяца назад +14

    I find it hard to believe what the pilot said : If he doesn't switch off the engine anti-ice / the defroster in clear air then the cowling on the engine could break off and damage the plane. Is it me, or am I going nuts ... the FAA still lets these planes fly people around when their lives are potentially in danger. I am never getting on a Boeing ! I am only going to fly on Airbus !

    • @Jitterbuggn
      @Jitterbuggn 4 месяца назад +1

      Great, an airline that services places with temperatures 45 degrees below zero now has to have their pilots remember they can’t run the de-ice/defrost for more than a few minutes at a time. I don’t believe in supernatural “signs” but I really am feeling like the universe is warning me to cancel my trip to Alaska next month.

    • @Hypersonic-es6vh
      @Hypersonic-es6vh 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Jitterbuggn Hey friend, if you are booked on a Boeing 737 then maybe you should cancel your trip to Alaska next month, it is better to be safe than sorry ! Good luck !

    • @Rasscasse
      @Rasscasse 3 месяца назад

      @@Jitterbuggn
      You don’t need to cancel your trip, just don’t go on a Boeing 737 Max anything .

    • @chris22capt
      @chris22capt 3 месяца назад

      It's not hard to believe that: FAA had issued airworthiness directive on that issue months ago...

  • @bartofilms
    @bartofilms 4 месяца назад +19

    'When People are Rushing They make Mistakes...'.

  • @user-ml3kf4yg8c
    @user-ml3kf4yg8c 4 месяца назад +30

    Fly Airbus: See the world...
    Fly Boeing: See the next one...

    • @ahndeux
      @ahndeux 4 месяца назад +1

      Airbus is lucky a passenger noticed that four rivets were missing on their wings and the flight was cancelled. It can happen to any airplane so don't be so smug. There was a time when Airbus had way more issues.

    • @dutchsailor6620
      @dutchsailor6620 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ahndeux At least they learned from it.

    • @gonenguldal5782
      @gonenguldal5782 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ahndeux that was not airbus’ fault. The aircraft did not come off the factory with four rivets missing. It was probably a maintenance issue.
      And I cant really remember when Airbus had issues but I can count many fatal issues with Boeing. Remember the 737 rudder problems in the 90’s ?? How many 737’s crashed because of that?
      Can you give me an example like this for airbus planes?

    • @ahndeux
      @ahndeux 4 месяца назад +1

      @@gonenguldal5782 Well, Boeing didn't cause the wheel to come off the 757 but its still blamed on them because its a Boeing.
      You really opened up a can of worms if you ask me to name Airbus issues. Let's start with AOA sensor issues similar to the ones on Boeing 737Max. You might want to look into flight GXL888T, Lufthansa flight 1829 or Air France Flight 447.
      On GXL888T, 7 crew member died on an "acceptance" flight because two AOA sensors failed and killed everyone on board. Luckily, it was not flying passengers or everyone would have died also.
      On LH1829, 109 people almost died on the Airbus A321. Two bad AOA sensors caused the airplane to drop more than 4000 feet in less than a minute. They were lucky the airplane was high enough to recover.
      On Air France 447, 228 people died on an Airbus A320. The pitot tubes were plugged and the bad air speed data caused the accident.
      There are many other examples. Crashes are not just a Boeing problem.

    • @ahndeux
      @ahndeux 4 месяца назад

      @@gonenguldal5782 The is a whole history on the 737 rudder reversal issue caused by the PCU servo.
      The problem was so hard to discover that NTSB had the PCU from at least two crashes and ran thousands of cycles of test on them without a single failure. It took the NTSB almost 7 years before they figured out the problem finally.
      It turned out the only way to get them to fail is to super cool the hydraulic fluid going into the servo and then suddenly subject it to extremely hot hydraulic fluid in a process called thermal shocking it. The conditions has to be perfect such that the servos are exposed to extreme cold and then suddenly shocked with hot fluid.
      Only under that extreme condition, the servo could direct fluid into the wrong ports and cause the controls to reverse. It was extremely rare and only happens when the airplanes are cruising in extreme cold climate, descends slowly and is suddenly subjected to super hot hydraulic fluid. It was one of the most difficult investigations the NTSB ever had and nobody ever expected that to happen prior to these incidence.
      The part was made by Parker Hannifin Corporation and they make many hydraulic components for Airbus planes also. It could have easily happened to Airbus. Neither Boeing nor Airbus directly designed these PCU units.

  • @stormrunner0029
    @stormrunner0029 4 месяца назад +31

    “No job is so important that we can’t do it safely.”

    • @mikearakelian6368
      @mikearakelian6368 4 месяца назад

      I was fortunate enough to do my own maintenance on my transport category a/c; FO was an AP wrenched on our ac every day; everything worked all certified parts.and always bucked managmet for parts; just take them out of the shop...

  • @cqbarnieify
    @cqbarnieify 4 месяца назад +97

    The Boeing MBAs running the company, as well as the entire Boeing board, they all need to lose their jobs. Their entire management needs to be made up of engineers again. They need to return back to the way they ran before they merged with MacDonald Douglass.

    • @theblondeone8426
      @theblondeone8426 4 месяца назад +5

      agreed

    • @theblondeone8426
      @theblondeone8426 4 месяца назад +4

      ppl based in science need to run it again

    • @rickyayy
      @rickyayy 4 месяца назад +3

      Zero engineers up top. Use to have many. Not anymore.

    • @garylee965
      @garylee965 4 месяца назад +3

      Need to be removed and jailed

    • @thecomedypilot5894
      @thecomedypilot5894 4 месяца назад +2

      So get rid of wokeism and DEI is what you’re saying.

  • @p0ssiblypossiblynot557
    @p0ssiblypossiblynot557 4 месяца назад +88

    This is what Complete Corporate Capture looks like.....

    • @alberthendricks342
      @alberthendricks342 4 месяца назад

      And the Us Supreme Court is about to weaken many already too weak government agencies. Go Republicans Go

    • @christopho3255
      @christopho3255 4 месяца назад

      ​@@fredferd965 The storm will surely come if the people do not speak up....

    • @SRSR-pc8ti
      @SRSR-pc8ti 4 месяца назад

      Passenger checklist: 1. O2 mask 2. Parachute.

    • @LexYeen
      @LexYeen 4 месяца назад

      ​@@fredferd965sir, are you aware of Boeing's history of regulatory capture due to political lobbying? or are you just looking for cheap shots at a political ideology you've been propagandized to hate unthinkingly?

    • @pibbles-a-plenty1105
      @pibbles-a-plenty1105 4 месяца назад

      @@LexYeen What else do you expect from a Republican?

  • @user-gm9cx3bt1f
    @user-gm9cx3bt1f 4 месяца назад +23

    That's how it sounds when competent people talk!
    Take a listen, Calhoun!

    • @TheRealWindlePoons
      @TheRealWindlePoons 4 месяца назад +1

      "Take a listen, Calhoun!"
      You assume that an incompetent person can understand a competent one. After 40 years as an engineer my experience tells me this is seldom the case.

  • @williamjones7163
    @williamjones7163 4 месяца назад +16

    Boeing used to be run by engineers. Now Boeing is run by accountants. Safety is not a word accountants know how to spell. Safety is a byword that engineers live by.

    • @lewisg1736
      @lewisg1736 4 месяца назад

      Correction: Boeing is run by greedy stockholders

    • @forrestsmith9235
      @forrestsmith9235 4 месяца назад +1

      Same same in medicine, which used to be run by doctors but now it’s run by bottom-line business bureaucrats.

    • @zokonjazokonja
      @zokonjazokonja 3 месяца назад

      ​@@forrestsmith9235and by farmecautic industry

  • @EAFXtrader
    @EAFXtrader 4 месяца назад +11

    Boeing made a massive mistake by constantly bringing out updated and different versions of the 737. The first 737 flew way back in the 60's. They should have instead introduced a brand new aircraft about 30 years ago, instead they sat back and let Airbus become the dominant manufacturer in this market.

  • @Chris-Nico
    @Chris-Nico 4 месяца назад +12

    Thank you Captain for stressing these ridiculous exemptions!! My son flys the 737 for UAL.

  • @samspade8612
    @samspade8612 4 месяца назад +19

    Seems they also neglected to tell aircrew the cockpit door opens on a rapid decompression. Better stock up on those Post-Its.

    • @JimmieBrown-sg8fq
      @JimmieBrown-sg8fq 4 месяца назад +2

      I am buying stock in 3M 😂😂😂 ! Wonder if parachutes will be issued no cost at checkin for folks sitting on the door plug aisles?

    • @dannysnyder6791
      @dannysnyder6791 4 месяца назад

      This is common sense based on the pressure applied to the door and the mechanisms holding it closed.

    • @johnchow8372
      @johnchow8372 4 месяца назад +2

      Is the cockpit door opening a feature or is that an error? Rapid decompression also in the cockpit can cause the captain to blackout etc!

  • @petervonbleichert9688
    @petervonbleichert9688 4 месяца назад +5

    Thanks, Cap’, for helping keep us safe

  • @user-uc6bf5ze3b
    @user-uc6bf5ze3b 4 месяца назад +24

    Avionics on the NG 10 years we always had a week of classroom training for each new type. Then it became 3 days. Then mostly on a computer under pressure to get finished so you can get to work. The max started arriving for acceptance checks , and some of the crew went to training and I was scheduled to go. We were told it was ok to install wifi. Then when training time arrived I was told I was qualified because of my wifi experience of two weeks. When I started in avionics I was sent for seven weeks of classroom training in the first year. .....

  • @David-zy1jw
    @David-zy1jw 4 месяца назад +5

    FAA management go work for Boeing as "consultants" after retirement, this is the same FAA that allows Boeing to approve their own safety checks. Don't hold your breath.

  • @borisbadaxe9678
    @borisbadaxe9678 4 месяца назад +5

    Boeing: The noise you hear when a part falls off your airplane. 🤔

  • @sstrick500
    @sstrick500 4 месяца назад +11

    2.5 years to fix a heating element. In that case, its going to take me about 38 years to get a load of laundry done.

    • @neeneko
      @neeneko 4 месяца назад

      Eh, that bit does not surprise me. I work on another aircraft, and am seeing issues that will probably not be scheduled to be worked on till 2030.

  • @outermarker5801
    @outermarker5801 4 месяца назад +50

    I'd heard something about the Max anti icing system but had no idea it was this bad. If you leave it on in clear air (presumably after passing though cloud/icing conditions), the heat can make engine cowlings fly off???
    Are they going to fix that??

    • @YouMakeItHappen
      @YouMakeItHappen 4 месяца назад +6

      he said Boeing needs 2.5yrs to fix it.

    • @outermarker5801
      @outermarker5801 4 месяца назад +6

      @@YouMakeItHappen Yeah I posted before watching the whole thing.
      That's 2.5 years hoping a planetload of 737 pilots never forget this as Maxes enter their fleets 🙄

    • @adennis200
      @adennis200 4 месяца назад +6

      Lets put it that way: if they wont fix it, its only a matter WHEN and not IF something deadly is going to happen... So They better fix it otherwise I see many heads rolling, boeing being done forever etc

    • @gigmaresh8772
      @gigmaresh8772 4 месяца назад

      Actually this engine was the fix
      The original JT8D engine on 737s were fine
      Then Boeing took a great little aircraft and grew it and grew it and grew it . . . kinda like Ford does with all of their popular model of cars.
      In order to get the wonderful little plane to pull it weight it needed the CFM56 BUT that engine would have scraped the ground. So they created a pylon to move it up and forward of the wing

    • @lihtan
      @lihtan 4 месяца назад +3

      They'll install an engraved plague in the avionics cluster, so that the pilot doesn't have to use a post-it note! 😆

  • @gayluinstra1396
    @gayluinstra1396 4 месяца назад +3

    They put a more energy-efficient, newly designed larger engine on an existing plane model which was not designed to accommodate the larger engine size. It had to be repositioned to a different place on the plane than the original sized engine model. That changed the aerodynamics of the airplane.

  • @FrogandFlangeVideo
    @FrogandFlangeVideo 4 месяца назад +6

    BTW- the panel blowout is actually called an off-airport panel removal.

  • @int53185
    @int53185 4 месяца назад +14

    There is no quality control. If there was this never would have happened.

  • @sheilathailand1903
    @sheilathailand1903 4 месяца назад +51

    Note to self....sit in front of the wing. This is terrifying.

    • @IAmTheChan
      @IAmTheChan 4 месяца назад +3

      And airlines charge you more for the seats in those front rows.

    • @garfieldsmith332
      @garfieldsmith332 4 месяца назад +11

      And when the window blows open get sucked into the engine. Two choices, hit the engine or the engine hits you.

    • @ChrisAndCats
      @ChrisAndCats 4 месяца назад +1

      And avoid the door.

    • @ockertbrits6907
      @ockertbrits6907 4 месяца назад +2

      Note too self; don't fly ith Boeing 737 xxxx.

    • @philleggitt3005
      @philleggitt3005 4 месяца назад

      If the tail goes down, the nose will follow...

  • @johan7781
    @johan7781 4 месяца назад +2

    The compatibility issue arises from the larger engines on the 737 MAX, highlighting a challenge with retrofitting. It raises concerns about Boeing's decision to persist with a design originating in the 60s. While the sales pitch emphasized minimal training needs, the MAX's significant differences from the standard 737 have become evident.

  • @marcd1981
    @marcd1981 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you Captain Tajer for speaking out, and thank you NewsNation for getting this information out.
    I just retired after 30 years with a commercial airline, working in several areas of what is now called Technical Operations (Tech Ops), but what I still call Aircraft Maintenance. I was a technician, an Instructor, a Supervisor, and the position I retired from was called a Senior Compliance Specialist. We worked as liaisons between the FAA and the company, making sure everyone was working in compliance with all rules, regulations, policies and procedures.
    When there were errors made, we ensured the individual(s) involved, the FAA, and the company were all on the same page with what happened, how and why it happened, and set up procedures to ensure it didn't happen again. Captain Tajer was spot on when he was asked if the inspections were performed, and he stated if they were, they weren't done in compliance.
    Unfortunately, there are shortcuts developed over a long career that get the aircraft signed off and back in service, but many times these shortcuts eventually result in some type of incident, such as what we are seeing here with Boeing. You can only get lucky so many times before this happens.

  • @DaleSteel
    @DaleSteel 4 месяца назад +15

    I think we need to know more about anti ice issue

  • @waynejpark560
    @waynejpark560 4 месяца назад +3

    Great comments Captain.

  • @Stetsonhatman
    @Stetsonhatman 4 месяца назад +10

    Nice to hear from a Max pilot and he is as disgusted with Boeing as well and rightfully so.

  • @Screaming-Trees
    @Screaming-Trees 4 месяца назад +2

    "A disaster waiting to happen" is a perfect way to put it.

  • @nextfriiday
    @nextfriiday 4 месяца назад +12

    Ya have know how the max 8 got here. It’s the 737 ng design with bigger engines and effing software to make it fly, because it doesn’t want to fly. A newly designed 737 was needed, but didn’t happen. Boeing rushed the max to market to compete with airbus. Dumb!

  • @stephendavidbailey2743
    @stephendavidbailey2743 4 месяца назад +2

    Lots of folks saying that the problem comes from McDonnell Douglas. But I never felt scared on an MD80. I cannot say the same about about flying on a 737.

  • @andythorne6236
    @andythorne6236 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank You Sir for standing up and speaking out. You are an example of how aircrew are critical in maintaining and improving the safety of aviation.

  • @thoso1973
    @thoso1973 4 месяца назад +13

    Reading that the Alaska accident was a result of the plug door bolts missing. Apparently Spirit/Boeing replaced the rubber seal band in the door and they decided to just 'open' the door instead of 'removing' it for the job - because opening the door for replacing the seal, does not require an inspector to control the work and sign off the paperwork!
    Boeing's motto should be 'Greed before safety'. The FAA apparently agrees.

  • @bazoo513
    @bazoo513 4 месяца назад +4

    1:30 - I beg to differ. It _was_ good luck that nobody was in those seats, but to bring the still structurally sound aircraft to under 10,000 ft after a decompression event was not a "miracle", that's something every pilot should be able to do in their sleep.

    • @Rasscasse
      @Rasscasse 3 месяца назад +1

      It was more luck than miracle
      Lucky that it didn’t happen 32,000 feet!
      That’s a long way down to 10,000 feet so everybody can breathe normally .

    • @bazoo513
      @bazoo513 3 месяца назад

      @@Rasscasse Still within 15 minutes supply of oxygen, but, yes, there would probably be casualties.

    • @Rasscasse
      @Rasscasse 3 месяца назад

      But what would have happened to the contents of the cabin in that 15 minutes with the hole in the side at 32,000 feet?

    • @bazoo513
      @bazoo513 3 месяца назад

      @@Rasscasse The main problem would be extremely cold outside air, but that would still be survivable. Remember that Aloha 243 flight of a 19 years old Boeing 737-200 that lost good chunk of its rook at 24k feet, with only casualty being a flight attendant swept out by the rushing air?

  • @BruceLevickbrusca
    @BruceLevickbrusca 4 месяца назад +7

    My holidays are now planned based on wherever this guy flies.

  • @dps1983
    @dps1983 4 месяца назад +2

    This is very true what captain have said in this interview.All that businesses are worried now is the profits.

  • @user-es4iu7ls2o
    @user-es4iu7ls2o 4 месяца назад +3

    Captain, you look tired. But thank you for your very wise words may I pray that you NEVER find yourself forced into a corner. Fly safe sir.

  • @BlueDays_BlackKnights
    @BlueDays_BlackKnights 4 месяца назад +7

    Well spoken Captain Tajer.

  • @holykrishna
    @holykrishna 4 месяца назад +8

    “commercial interest must take a back seat to safety”

  • @CaneBTC
    @CaneBTC 4 месяца назад +8

    Exploding engines? The Max program needs to be scrapped.

    • @bobdevreeze4741
      @bobdevreeze4741 4 месяца назад

      They don't explode... Spontaneous disassembly brings on unplanned off airport landings. page 27 , Boeing 's Don't Blame Me Manual.

    • @CaneBTC
      @CaneBTC 4 месяца назад

      Along with high velocity unexpected vertical landing events where teeth roots are considered the best source of DNA to match the checked bags @@bobdevreeze4741

  • @Elizabeth-tg7jo
    @Elizabeth-tg7jo 4 месяца назад +1

    This was a great video - definitely worth my time. TY

  • @nimaljaya5431
    @nimaljaya5431 4 месяца назад +27

    This sounds similar to the Submersible tragedy last year. Shortcuts and cost saving, now putting people at risk

    • @daisy1720
      @daisy1720 4 месяца назад +4

      Didn't the submersible use Boeing parts? 😬

    • @Robert_Keel
      @Robert_Keel 4 месяца назад

      Similar, but different.
      A working quality management system would have prevented this.
      The fact that Boeing does not have a functioning QMS puts ALL of its work in doubt.

  • @wt3447
    @wt3447 4 месяца назад +3

    Where are the congressmen now? We need them to focus on the right thing. We need to hold both FAA and Boeing accountable for their miss behavior.

  • @redwolf6724
    @redwolf6724 4 месяца назад +3

    This Is Some Scary Times That Boeing Is Still In Business And Suppling Airplanes After The MCAS Incident!!!!

  • @only_1_kinobi
    @only_1_kinobi 4 месяца назад +13

    If it’s Boeing I ain’t going

  • @Bolinas
    @Bolinas 4 месяца назад +4

    WTF, this is really scary stuff. 😮

  • @CaneBTC
    @CaneBTC 4 месяца назад +6

    Never seen that host, welcome if you are new

  • @danajorgensen1358
    @danajorgensen1358 4 месяца назад +4

    What this guy really means is... The FAA has to start doing its job again. All these issues, going all the way back to the Dreamliner issues more than a decade ago, all stem from the FAA handing off its responsibility to thoroughly inspect aircraft as they are manufactured to the manufacturers responsible for manufacturing the aircraft in the first place. This amounts to leaving the responsibility to lock the door to the henhouse nightly to the fox, then asking who let the fox into the henhouse after hundreds of chickens have died.

  • @stephenking7012
    @stephenking7012 4 месяца назад +1

    I am avoiding all AIRLINES that fly MAX. For the last 3 years now.
    What a great captain... I want him on my plane

  • @nz6241
    @nz6241 4 месяца назад +1

    I applaud this Pilot for telling it like it is.
    The fact that "new" airplane model has so much built-in defect when it is released for use is disturbing.

  • @kathieharine5982
    @kathieharine5982 4 месяца назад +5

    I wish Santa Fe would bring back the Super Chief. I rode it years ago several times in a bedroom with my sisters and mother. Airplanes are scary now.

    • @Augfordpdoggie
      @Augfordpdoggie 4 месяца назад +1

      wish this lady would bring back her hair

  • @Fuff63
    @Fuff63 4 месяца назад +7

    Seemed like the old 737 was proven to be a really good design. Simpler. Why change?

    • @kieronmcginty2763
      @kieronmcginty2763 4 месяца назад

      Trying to keep up with A320 neo.

    • @davidwright7193
      @davidwright7193 4 месяца назад +2

      Because the newer engines on the A320 neo had a 20% lower fuel burn and the newer avionics in the A320 family are just safer. The 737 series still doesn't have a real time in cockpit error reporting system. Most faults just light the same warning button and sound the same alarm.

    • @gonenguldal5782
      @gonenguldal5782 4 месяца назад

      Yea they should have kept building the same airplane for 100 years

    • @PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs
      @PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs 4 месяца назад

      There was a shift from spoke and hub network to point to point.

  • @beagle7622
    @beagle7622 4 месяца назад +2

    This is serious stuff. This is basic Aircraft Construction. My concern is what other underlying problems are there in that aircraft.

  • @kbd25
    @kbd25 4 месяца назад +1

    Great Captain. It’s probably a pleasure and a sensation of safety to fly with this man.

  • @mr3745
    @mr3745 4 месяца назад +4

    Remember this is what DT voters wanted, less regulation. It’s going to make America less safe and hand our proud commercial aircraft industry to Airbus.

  • @erikaquatsch2190
    @erikaquatsch2190 2 месяца назад

    Thank-you, Captain Tajer, for your aviation service and for taking your time to bring more awareness to the public of safety in flying.

  • @hotttt28
    @hotttt28 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks skipper !

  • @handymatt1970
    @handymatt1970 4 месяца назад +10

    everyone knows faa is in boing's pocket

  • @geneticdisorder1900
    @geneticdisorder1900 4 месяца назад +1

    THANK YOU CAPTAIN !!! 🧑‍✈️

  • @rudybriskar5267
    @rudybriskar5267 4 месяца назад +1

    Scary!

  • @exeterline1930
    @exeterline1930 4 месяца назад +3

    I can't believe they expect PASSENGERS and THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES to risk their lives everytime they fly these lemons. They have the nerve to look them in the eye.

  • @s9523pink
    @s9523pink 4 месяца назад

    Wow.. excellent commentary!

  • @samuelarduino
    @samuelarduino 4 месяца назад +3

    could someone elaborate on this big flaw: the selfcertification process?!

  • @DrewWithington
    @DrewWithington 4 месяца назад +1

    The current Boeing CEO is an accountant. Nuff said.

  • @user-ql7yv7zx5s
    @user-ql7yv7zx5s 4 месяца назад +2

    As a Captain myself, I have seen it myself, like most government agencies, the FAA has became political, follow the money!!! How many politicians are in bed with Boeing and other companies.

  • @Brisco1
    @Brisco1 4 месяца назад +3

    The MAX is inherently unstable, it needs software to correct for the displaced center of gravity. What the heck Boeing?

  • @collinfraser1218
    @collinfraser1218 3 месяца назад

    As a retired GA pilot, my heart goes out to this gentleman and all his colleagues. Not being confident there have not been critical bolts left on a bench, is insane ! Boeing - Get a grip ! Now !
    Their motivation to move production to the highest bidder states and Countries was motivated by execs and shareholders greed.
    Perhaps passengers and pilots refusing to fly Boeing for a couple of months might motivate the Execs and bean counters to fly straight !
    This latest door debacle boggles my mind ! !

  • @carltrano1325
    @carltrano1325 4 месяца назад

    Does the posted note have a pn in the ipc?

  • @chubbybear7777
    @chubbybear7777 4 месяца назад

    Is there a link for this buletin?

  • @KO-im6sm
    @KO-im6sm 4 месяца назад +2

    When you say max what model?

    • @Rasscasse
      @Rasscasse 3 месяца назад

      The Alaskan door plug blowout was on a Max 9
      The two crashes in 2018/2019
      which killed 346 people were Max 8s
      Boeing next want to certify the Max 10 and then the Max 7

  • @mikearakelian6368
    @mikearakelian6368 4 месяца назад +1

    I left the busness after 20 yrs; job is always on the line when pilots sqwac about maintenance or refusing a flight due to bad wx...got let go many times; but still alive to tell the tail!!

  • @garfieldsmith332
    @garfieldsmith332 4 месяца назад +10

    The new motto for air travellers. "If it's Boeing; I'm not going". Pilots union needs to take a stand.

  • @petervandolah5322
    @petervandolah5322 4 месяца назад

    Excellent...

  • @TheVleckChannel
    @TheVleckChannel 4 месяца назад

    After becoming familiar with the JAL 747 disaster, learning of issues with aft pressure bulkheads in recent Boeings was somewhat disconcerting.
    It took over 10 years for that unseen problem to run its course to disaster, but it led to the most costly crash in history in terms of lives.

  • @adennis200
    @adennis200 4 месяца назад +4

    This all, this rush, the negligence is all originating from the greed of few..... A greed of few is a threat to the lives of thousands and millions.....

  • @MarkSmith-js2pu
    @MarkSmith-js2pu 4 месяца назад +1

    Good spokesman