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  • A former senior manager at a Boeing 737 factory told “NewsNation Now” that he specifically avoids flying on Max airliners due to safety concerns.
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  • @9256steven
    @9256steven 4 месяца назад +100

    When a former Boeing senior manager won't step on a 737Max, you have to believe there is a big problem.

    • @user-cr5kc6pb7t
      @user-cr5kc6pb7t 4 месяца назад +5

      Indeed. Omg 😳

    • @walterbrown8694
      @walterbrown8694 4 месяца назад +4

      I wouldn't fly on one either.

    • @SL-bn8qb
      @SL-bn8qb 4 месяца назад +7

      The "rot" began at the top when Boeing "merged" with McDonnel Douglas. In reality, the merged company had a management mentality of military aviation bean counters from McDD push Boeing's engineering excellence DNA under. The first was to move HQ to Chicago, away from the manufacturing and engineering in Washington. Then, when the A320 showed that it was a better value for money, more recent design, the bean counting military-oriented Chicago managers decided to do a band-aid re-engineering of a 60-year old jet design. The 737 fuselage was not only narrower than the A320, but its height above ground was too low to accommodate, larger, higher bypass efficient engines. Instead of designing a new fuselage, the bean counters decided to tweak the mounting of the bigger engines to project upward, not only adversely affective aerodynamic stability, but also requiring new wings. The Bean Counters also claimed that the 737 Max would be so similar to the previous versions that no pilot flight simulator training would be necessary. Meanwhile, Boeing engineers with a conscience were silenced about the inherently unstable "Frankenstein" design, and the firm lobbied the FAA to approve the aircraft. Ex-McDD management had been accustomed to the "acceptable" aircraft failures in military aviation, not the zero failure philosophy of civil aviation. The new management of Boeing should have been tried for criminal negligence, but Boeing was "too big to fail" and the largest single source of foreign sourced revenue. Instead, there was a "settlement" of a mere $5 billion, perhaps as most claimants were not Americans but Africans and Asians??? Boeing criminal, amoral negligence also tarnished the FAA, the opinions of which are no longer considered a "gold standard" from China to France, and there is no longer an assumption of engineering and manufacturing excellence in Boeing products. If market forces had been allowed on Boeing, the entire 737 Max Frankenfuselage would have bitten the dust, and Boeing management forced into a radical overhaul of practices in favor of a return to engineering and safety priority over short term economic gain (and bonouses for management). In truth, when the A320 showed that it was a better suited, more modern design, Boeing should have bitten the bullet and invest the billions in designing a new narrow-body aircraft, taller, wider and configured for the increasingly voluminous passenger size since t he 1950s. Alas, to no avail, and I avoid any Max flights, and even avoid the cramped lateral seating of any 737 unless I am in a Premium or higher class.

  • @cqbarnieify
    @cqbarnieify 4 месяца назад +87

    We won’t forget. I won’t fly in a MAX.

    • @Perich29
      @Perich29 4 месяца назад +6

      737 Max is a yugo of the sky.

    • @user-cr5kc6pb7t
      @user-cr5kc6pb7t 4 месяца назад +6

      This isn’t just a MAX 9 door issue. This is a MAX 8 issue. Both the MAX 8 & 9 - plus it looks like the MAX 7 too. ALL the MAX 737 planes have a multitude of different safety issues and defects throughout the entire planes. So this is not just a one 9 MAX 9 door issues. It ALL max series planes.

    • @robertnelson9621
      @robertnelson9621 4 месяца назад +1

      Well even if you choose another plane, it might be switched to a 737 Max with no prior intimation.

    • @d.b.cooper1
      @d.b.cooper1 4 месяца назад +1

      I'm very critical of Boeing & follow their general shenanigans but I can't lie, price & convenience turmps all for me. As it does for most consumers even those who say wouldn't fly a Max. We've heard this for years, sadly airlines know people really act on their words

    • @carocarochan
      @carocarochan 4 месяца назад

      346 deaths 😢
      Boeing are criminals...

  • @Perich29
    @Perich29 4 месяца назад +55

    If you don't want to fly on the 737 Max, fly on Spirit, Delta, or Frontier airlines, they have a fleet of Airbus.

    • @AccessKelly
      @AccessKelly 4 месяца назад +3

      So Delta then...😂 😅

    • @jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866
      @jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 4 месяца назад +9

      @@AccessKelly no, Delta placed an order for 100 of them. Spirit and frontier have some of the only airbus-only fleets in the US. spirit also has one of the youngest fleets in the US.

    • @ElCuervodeSanlo
      @ElCuervodeSanlo 4 месяца назад +8

      Or Jet Blue!

    • @ericjones7769
      @ericjones7769 4 месяца назад +5

      And Jetblue as well 💙💙💙💙

    • @StratMatt777
      @StratMatt777 4 месяца назад

      @@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 Delta doesn't get MAX 10s until 2025.

  • @rolandnelson6722
    @rolandnelson6722 4 месяца назад +37

    Got up and walked off the plane!
    No bigger dis-endorsement.

    • @daryllect6659
      @daryllect6659 4 месяца назад

      The ultimate example of "Bait & Switch"

  • @jvaneck8991
    @jvaneck8991 4 месяца назад +51

    Meanwhile, Boeing tried its damnest to prevent the Bombardier C-Series (100 and 300) from entering the US market, thus wrecking that competitor. Boeing did that by doing what it does best: lobbying the Feds, where they successfully convinced the Dept. of Commerce to levy a 271% tariff on the C-series. That blocked a 75-plane opening order from Delta, Boeing having this idea that Delta would then go buy their old-design 737. Well, that stunt backfired, as Bombardier sold the design to Airbus and now Airbus has the A-220, a spectacular success. And Boeing is stuck with the continuing fiascos of the 737 Max.
    it becomes apparent that Boeing is now a lobbying company, parked just outside the Pentagon, where Boeing makes its serious money as a military-hardware contractor. What a disgrace.

    • @patrice5976
      @patrice5976 4 месяца назад +6

      Meanwhile here in Quebec we lost our aviation industry… thanks Canada and Americans… vive le Quebec libre et vive la Palestine libre! 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸

    • @asicdathens
      @asicdathens 4 месяца назад +3

      @@patrice5976The Mirabel plant that makes the A220 series has more orders than ever and they expanded the facility multiple times

    • @kwisatzhaderach1458
      @kwisatzhaderach1458 4 месяца назад

      MBA takeovers are dangerous

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 3 месяца назад

      Good synopsis. You could’ve gone on forever and not gotten to the end of this debacle.

  • @elizabethannemarriott8314
    @elizabethannemarriott8314 4 месяца назад +33

    I said after the first Max accidents I would not fly in one. Never felt unsafe with Boeing until they launched the Max.

    • @christerry1773
      @christerry1773 4 месяца назад

      So you’ve never flown in one since those accidents?

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 4 месяца назад

      Which is interesting because the 737 has always been a garbage low quality aircraft right from day one.
      They used the same fuselage for long range aircraft so with the massive amount of flights for short range aircraft it had numerous structural problems which resulted in the roof blowing off Aloha 243 in 1988.
      Then there was the rudder power control units that decided to malfunction leading to the loss of several aircraft.
      So many bandaid fixes to what’s a 1967 aircraft with portions of the design dating back to the early 1950s.

  • @billlawrence1899
    @billlawrence1899 4 месяца назад +48

    The give-away that this was coming came when Boeing's headquaters were moved to Chicago. Boeing was birthed in Seattle, by people who loved airplanes and were dedicated to producing the best product it was possible to create. The company was run by the engineers who designed and built airplanes, and took pride in producing the best possible airplane. If that meant extra cost, then so be it. Pass the cost on to the customer. But the old guard faded out, and the MBAs came along. For some reason only an MBA can explain, they moved headquaters to Chicago. They don't make airplanes in Chicago, and the new management didn't have to be bothered by all those pesky engineers. Now the bean counters rule, and well, we see the result. I flew for United for 36 years and loved Boeing airplanes. Now my son is a captain for Alaska and I'm nervous for him.

    • @ApriliaRacer14
      @ApriliaRacer14 4 месяца назад +10

      The American Way. Cut corners, boost profits, trample people.

    • @billlawrence1899
      @billlawrence1899 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ApriliaRacer14Maybe so. But everyone else's way is worse.

    • @ApriliaRacer14
      @ApriliaRacer14 4 месяца назад +2

      @@billlawrence1899 Got to be kidding. Manufacturing in Germany, Japan, Vietnam and other countries are better. Are you being serious?

    • @billlawrence1899
      @billlawrence1899 4 месяца назад +3

      @@ApriliaRacer14 No Kiddin? I haven't ridden on a Japanese, Vietnamese, or airplane from other countries lately so I must have misssed out.

    • @jmseipp
      @jmseipp 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ApriliaRacer14The Germans, Japanese and Vietnamese don’t make commercial airliners. And yes, it’s true. Boeing planes used to be so safe because the company was run by pilots and engineers who loved airplanes. They always strove to make planes safer. There were always backup systems. The Max 8 planes that crashed are a good example of what happens when you rely on one component with no backup. The new Boeing management is more concerned about making money than safety. But how many $Billions have they lost for Boeing with their reckless philosophy?! They never should have moved management to Chicago. The bean counters never should have been given control of the comp ay. Dumb move. They’ve ruined Boeing’s reputation.

  • @Macedonia270
    @Macedonia270 4 месяца назад +42

    I have refused to fly in the Max since the 2 fatal crashes and NOTHING the airlines do or say will ever convince me to fly in these coffins again.... My assistant has a tough job booking my travels as she has to confirm that my flights are in an airbus, before booking.
    I would suggest to everyone to do the same....

    • @ahdhudbbh
      @ahdhudbbh 4 месяца назад

      Many, many people have also died in Airbus accidents. If you're going to be so risk averse, then never ever go by car anywhere

    • @Koewinten
      @Koewinten 4 месяца назад +13

      @@ahdhudbbh But these haven't been caused by a manufacturer who doesn't inform pilots of specific systems introduced for cost reduction.

    • @Macedonia270
      @Macedonia270 4 месяца назад +6

      @@ahdhudbbh Oh really? So when exactly were these accidents caused by the poor manufacturing and design of an Airbus? Please enlighten us about these "many, many" accidents caused by Airbus.

    • @gregabott5583
      @gregabott5583 4 месяца назад +4

      @@ahdhudbbh Very few of those were due to aircraft manufacturer faults, we haven't seen manufacture faults like this in aviation since the DC-10.

    • @carocarochan
      @carocarochan 4 месяца назад

      Same for me.
      I never forgot the 346 victims.
      Boeing is a shameless company!

  • @robalger9936
    @robalger9936 4 месяца назад +77

    The CEO got a $3,000,000 + bonus for having doors fly off his planes

    • @blackterminal
      @blackterminal 4 месяца назад +5

      Ceo's are highly overpaid.

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 4 месяца назад

      97% CEO's are FREEMASON/SHRINER

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@johnd8755They should rebrand the 737 to the nightmare liner

    • @d.b.cooper1
      @d.b.cooper1 4 месяца назад +9

      $3m? Oh please he wouldn't get out of bed for that. He got $23m last year & that was a bad year with no bonuses for him due to awful production issues/delays.

    • @CW-rx2js
      @CW-rx2js 4 месяца назад

      Actually no...he gets 7.5 million a year

  • @Dr_b_
    @Dr_b_ 4 месяца назад +19

    "Former Boeing manager says he won’t fly on a Max"

  • @williamjones7163
    @williamjones7163 4 месяца назад +16

    Cancelations will happen through Sunday. Of which month? Of which year?
    Boeing used to be a company run by engineers. Now it is a compny run by accountants. When has a good product ever been produced by an accountant?

  • @jcbaily5559
    @jcbaily5559 4 месяца назад +48

    I have been saying for years that if you want something changed boycott the product. It is a shame these two airlines are being punished for what a few do and I hope Boeing will be reimbursing them for their financial losses! Even more so for the employees at Boeing that spoke out saying something was wrong and having no one listen to them! I have flown on Boeing planes all my life but doubt that I ever will again.

    • @stephenbaxter3369
      @stephenbaxter3369 4 месяца назад +3

      Used to wear Boeing T-shirts but now I want an Airbus T-shirt.

    • @nino88881
      @nino88881 4 месяца назад

      I totally understand your view. But unfortunately it’s jot thay simple. Sipply and demand. Other companiies’s plane wont be able to cover all thr demands. They probably just sell their tickets w lower price and eventually everurhibg will go back to normal.
      Secondly Boeing is way too big of a company that US will not let it go down. Government will make sure it stays afloat.

    • @AgeCobra
      @AgeCobra 4 месяца назад

      And buy what and laying off over the whole workforce and and Boeing going bankrupt

    • @daryllect6659
      @daryllect6659 4 месяца назад +1

      @@stephenbaxter3369 Well, if you plan to fly on a Boeing make sure your shirt is buttoned tight...or otherwise it may ...well... you know.

    • @stephenbaxter3369
      @stephenbaxter3369 4 месяца назад +2

      @@daryllect6659 My flying days are over but it was something I really used to enjoy. I visited Boeing in Renton and took the tour in the 1980's - it was impressive then.

  • @ShelbybossV8
    @ShelbybossV8 4 месяца назад +13

    Being from Ireland we would use Ryanair a lot because there usually the cheapest. The thought would never cross my mind to check what plane has being allocated, it was always the 737NG, a terrific reliable workhorse .
    Ryanair are slowly replacing there large fleet of NG's to the max,now i do as much research as possible to find out if a max has being allocated to the route I'm on.
    Sadly, if it's a max i will probably use aer lingus as there are all Airbus. It's sad because i was always a huge fan of Boeing & there planes.

    • @gower23
      @gower23 4 месяца назад +1

      Please keep flying the MAX. Ryanair absolutely raped Boeing in capital acquisition and the revenue margins of cramming 200 people in to the plane is a shareholders wet dream. I love Ryanair's dividends. MOAR cheap 737 MAX's now!!! 🤑🤑🤑😊

    • @ElCuervodeSanlo
      @ElCuervodeSanlo 4 месяца назад +1

      1/4 of Ryanair fleet is Max

  • @bartofilms
    @bartofilms 4 месяца назад +64

    If Alaska Airlines knew that Pressurization Warnings were occuring on the very aircraft with the lost door plug, and their response was to 'not fly it over water', I strongly believe Executive Management @ Alaska, not just Boeing, needs a serious shake-up.

    • @cruisingal2
      @cruisingal2 4 месяца назад +13

      Yes, a warning lights in an airplaine is different than the "stupid lights" on your car dash (that's what hubby mechanic calls them) That plane should have been grounded until they figured it out and fixed it.

    • @kyleprimetime
      @kyleprimetime 4 месяца назад +11

      ...and they didn't secure the CVR after a major event. Shady.

    • @rolandnelson6722
      @rolandnelson6722 4 месяца назад

      @@kyleprimetimewhat’s the CVR?

    • @schao7555
      @schao7555 4 месяца назад +9

      It's Boeing's Fault for the Installation of the the door plug, it's Alaska airlines Fault for not grounding that particular plan when those warning lights came on a Previous Flight. Both are gonna get Some Heat for this.

    • @andy70d35
      @andy70d35 4 месяца назад +8

      @@kyleprimetime You don't understand how CVR works, the CVR starts recording when the aircraft has power, even ground power. By the time preflight checks are done, PAX boarded and fuel and cargo loaded, that could take an 40 minutes just for that then there is taxi out and any other hold-ups before take off then you have the same at landing until the aircraft is powered down, so for example a 1Hr flight could and does very easily use more of the 2Hr CVR recording time. That is a simple break-down version, of why there was no usable CVR recording.
      In the USA there is a 2Hr record limit, in Europe it is 25Hr, In America the pilots don't want 25 Hr recorder they say it's about privacy.
      I say BS it's about safety, they will have Facebook and Google accounts youtube accounts and never give privacy a second thought.

  • @kingtryton
    @kingtryton 4 месяца назад +6

    I’ve always told myself I’m never flying on a 737 Max after the initial incidents now you have an ex employee saying the same well that speaks volumes STAY AWAY from this plane folks if you value life and Boeing doesn’t value yours!!

  • @jimmywrangles
    @jimmywrangles 4 месяца назад +59

    This was inevitable and avoidable at the same time. We've known for over a decade that Boeing have slashed quality control in order to make more money.
    It amazes me that this is such a big deal now when it should have been dealt with years ago.

    • @michaelclark7602
      @michaelclark7602 4 месяца назад +3

      Airbus is having major problems as well everyone is cutting costs, quality and safety

    • @LeslieChen83
      @LeslieChen83 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@michaelclark7602 yes they have but neos are not falling out of the sky...

    • @daryllect6659
      @daryllect6659 4 месяца назад

      @@LeslieChen83 Pardon my ignorance, but what's a "neo"?

    • @vergiltan7116
      @vergiltan7116 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@daryllect6659I think he means Airbus A320 neo

    • @johan7781
      @johan7781 4 месяца назад +6

      @michaelclark7602 you're comments are totally wrong. Airbus have no major problems, safety is number one. 7 billion profit. Airbus is a very healthy company. Boeing is in deep debt

  • @pateva2003
    @pateva2003 4 месяца назад +4

    Wow, and we used to think the DC10 had a bad rep.

  • @Vaporions
    @Vaporions 4 месяца назад +7

    oh yeah, last trip i went on in december for work seen i was on a max. no thank you ill be changing that.
    dont want to fly a max ever since the MCAS accidents.

  • @kwisatzhaderach1458
    @kwisatzhaderach1458 4 месяца назад +2

    Days after he came out exposing the dangers at Boeing...a Boeing 747 was spitting fireballs in the air.

  • @CamiloSanchez1979
    @CamiloSanchez1979 4 месяца назад +2

    It takes guts to say this publicly. Good for him to call the FAA and Boeing out.

  • @ahdhudbbh
    @ahdhudbbh 4 месяца назад +5

    Despite all the problems with the MAX, the chances of a passenger getting killed or injured in one is miniscule. The car journey to the airport is orders of magnitude more dangerous.

    • @ashlibabbittcroakedit9108
      @ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@qpr543 Every year, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) releases its global safety report. In its most recent iteration, findings showed that in 2022, the aviation industry saw a nearly 10% decrease in accidents compared to 2020-furthermore, fatalities resulting from aircraft accidents dropped by over 65%.
      Interestingly, these numbers have fallen despite the number of scheduled flights increasing. The ICAO attributes the improvements in safety to the safety commitments shared across the industry. In fact - the trend across many years of aviation is that today, flying is safer than ever.

    • @CaptainBlackadder75
      @CaptainBlackadder75 4 месяца назад +2

      Comforting, when the projections showed that without modification the MCAS system on the Max 8 is likely to have resulted in 15 crashes, making it the most unsafe passenger airliner ever. And Boeing and the FAA kept it in service hoping the mods would come out in time (which they didn’t and the Ethiopian Air crash then occurred).
      These are the people you trust?
      157 people aren’t here to argue the point thanks to the decision not to ground it.

  • @willytrouble88
    @willytrouble88 4 месяца назад +2

    Wow…when this guy said he got off the plane, that kinda stuck with me. Thankfully delta doesn’t fly these planes. Not sure what is going on over at the Boeing assembly line, but when management promoted the saying, “schedule is king”, you’re just asking for trouble. When you’re putting together airplanes, “safety is king”….period. No exceptions. I will be interested to hear more about the level of skill and training the production workers have on the line. I was in the Air Force for over 20 years in the aircraft maintenance world, and our mechanics all had a hierarchy of skill: apprentices, then journeyman, then craftsman. The craftsman typically had 10 years experience. Only a craftsman could “sign off / certify” completion of a task. Journeyman could do the work independently, but couldn’t sign off their work. It had to be checked. An apprentice was not allowed to work alone and had to be under the watchful eye of a journeyman, minimum. I’ll be sickened if we find out that unqualified, inexperienced, or poorly trained technicians are working independently on that assembly line. But considering the situation, one can only assume that is the case. Really not good for Boeing.

  • @KCFlyer2
    @KCFlyer2 4 месяца назад +3

    Boeing should try this experiment replace the bean counter management with engineering managment and see if quality improves/

  • @kingdomfor1
    @kingdomfor1 4 месяца назад +3

    Great advice, if you get on a plane and you realize it's a max , stand up announce to everyone seated around you, this plane is a max and isn't safe , I'm getting off. People power.

  • @MikeFoxtrot1
    @MikeFoxtrot1 4 месяца назад +1

    Where can I get these incident reports?

  • @lowandslow3939
    @lowandslow3939 4 месяца назад

    Does anyone know what his website is? I didn’t catch it, or his name, in the video.

  • @jonnymakers9560
    @jonnymakers9560 4 месяца назад +2

    Alaska Airlines knew that Pressurization Warnings and IGNORED IT. This Boeing plane TOLD EVERY PILOT TO NOT FLY IT. All fingers should be pointed to Alaska. I will NEVER FLY ALASKA AGAIN!!!!!!

  • @GPW787
    @GPW787 Месяц назад

    What is the link to the website?

  • @davidbamford1971
    @davidbamford1971 4 месяца назад +2

    What a good man he is, great work.
    The Faa needs to sort Boeing out, or the Faa itself needs to be sorted out.
    It's all about profits over safety, the share price concern has replaced the company legacy and heritage.

  • @Apvizionz
    @Apvizionz 4 месяца назад +2

    As long as upper managment are living comfy lives on their bloated salaries why shoud they care? Isn't this a money allocation issue? It seems so simple that if less money went to the top and more went to having enough experienced staff this would't be a issue.

  • @DrewS777
    @DrewS777 4 месяца назад +4

    If it’s Boeing I ain’t going

  • @johnmacdonald1878
    @johnmacdonald1878 4 месяца назад +2

    Choose airlines which don’t use the 737 Max. I already do try and avoid them

  • @oldmansailor
    @oldmansailor 4 месяца назад +2

    It’s the production system that is the problem. When you travel work or noncompliance you expect assembly people that are not familiar with the job to do the work in less than optimal conditions. You have QA buying off work that they are not familiar with and to make it more difficult closure jobs are sold without the work being completed underneath. Then removals are written to open up the area to complete work that now has limited access from a lift rather than scaffolding. Sometimes on the flight line in the rain or snow at night.

  • @martylee5299
    @martylee5299 4 месяца назад +4

    This is a easy fix. Install emergency doors into all the affected 737 as originally designed then the doors get included into standard oprational safety inspections😊😊

    • @chris7air1760
      @chris7air1760 4 месяца назад +1

      Listen to what he says there are lots of other issues that are published but not brought to the publics attention so there is a much larger picture which clearly shows major safety issues with these planes.

  • @mattbsea
    @mattbsea 4 месяца назад +7

    That door plug was designed for the 737-900ER and reused on the Max. The -900’s aren’t grounded but probably should be

  • @williamrichardson2596
    @williamrichardson2596 4 месяца назад +2

    Good to know!

  • @Anurania
    @Anurania 4 месяца назад +4

    Write to your airlines, especially if you're part of their loyalty program, urging them to move away from Boeing products.

  • @cmacdona7
    @cmacdona7 4 месяца назад +5

    I'm sure it will vary from airline to airline but what if you do board a flight that has been changed to a max and you want to get off. I believe it will be made a 'big deal' by the flight crew because the plane will not be able to take off with your luggage on it (hence delay).

    • @punkybrewster7667
      @punkybrewster7667 4 месяца назад

      In my experience your luggage goes with it and catches up with you at a later date. Besides, I doubt they could tell you which cargo hold & where a specific piece is.

    • @jvaneck8991
      @jvaneck8991 4 месяца назад +3

      Too bad. An airplane is not a prison bus. Nobody can force you to take off in it. You get up and refuse to sit down, and that plane is not moving. You will get off.

    • @CaptainBlackadder75
      @CaptainBlackadder75 4 месяца назад

      @@punkybrewster7667I’ve never heard of luggage travelling without a passenger. I always assumed that was a massive security no-no.

  • @dave53Naomi
    @dave53Naomi 4 месяца назад +2

    After Boeing merging with McDonnell Douglas in 1997, Boeing has been gradually down. New high rank managers/directors are former M.D. It appears that these former M.D. directors (now directors at Boeing after merging) have made poor decision & poor policy: (1) Over outsourcing of major high tech components to other companies, including foreign countries. (2) Increasing integration. Consequently, Boeing engineers have lost lots of valuable design skills on major high tech components; Contractors/subcontractors/foreign countries have gained experience and secret in major high tech components. Now, Boeing does less design, but more INTEGRATION. That's not the majority of Boeing engineers want. Another factor: CEO Calhoun has bachelor’s degree in accounting which not good background for management of Boeing. CEO with engineering/technical degree is preferred.
    Boeing sold facility in Wichita, KS to Spirit Aero is another poor policy (against the general A-Z in industry). Spirit has become one major contractor to build fuselage, and a number of major components for Boeing.

  • @ASiABeenGorgeous77
    @ASiABeenGorgeous77 4 месяца назад

    I appreciate him for doing this!!

  • @GaryCSchade
    @GaryCSchade 4 месяца назад +3

    I always try to fly Anything But Boeing.
    IS " Profit Over Safety" Boeings business model ?

  • @ncascadehiker
    @ncascadehiker 4 месяца назад +8

    The old merit-based pyramid of talent was so much better than the current model of race/gender-influenced promotion of mediocre people.

    • @robertnelson9621
      @robertnelson9621 4 месяца назад

      You forgot DEI. Management 25% of incentives are tied to DEI hiring and development.

  • @4edior762
    @4edior762 4 месяца назад +2

    "Guys, you gotta rethink staff benefits. Our employees are rejecting the free flights on the Max"
    - Boeing CEO to HR Dept

  • @derrick021
    @derrick021 4 месяца назад +2

    a former boeing engineer understands the type of aircraft not at the moment he enters the cabin but only when he checks the safety card. ok

  • @heinseemann7070
    @heinseemann7070 4 месяца назад +1

    Now they move away from the MAX name. It has been a subtle process and Boeing has begun to use the name 737 MAX and 737-8(7 through 10) interchangeably.

  • @soloperformer5598
    @soloperformer5598 4 месяца назад +3

    I'd go even further and not fly on a Boeing aircraft.

  • @Stuntman707
    @Stuntman707 4 месяца назад +1

    I won't fly on a 737 MAX. I'd rather get on a 4th gen Airbus any day.

  • @beargillium2369
    @beargillium2369 4 месяца назад

    What about the 900er ? Same door plug as the max 9.

    • @azeoprop
      @azeoprop 4 месяца назад +1

      The 900er were manufactured before all these outsourcing cost cutting poor QC started.

  • @derekmorgan9250
    @derekmorgan9250 4 месяца назад

    whats the foundation web site

  • @craigbrown5359
    @craigbrown5359 4 месяца назад +1

    Dont forget flights 585 and 427...rudder hard overs disintegrated around 180 peopl!...2 of which I knew on 427. They were both 737 aircraft...different circumstances but with the relocation of the larger engines, emergency door plugs, and new software to accommodate engine/wing configurations, I wouldnt want to be going 400 knots at 35,000 feet in one of those!!!

  • @ambalina
    @ambalina 4 месяца назад +1

    They need to cut out this super excited chick in the end..

  • @MVK_GS
    @MVK_GS 4 месяца назад

    Two months ago, i flew abroad for the holidays. When making my arrangements, I made sure to avoid the Max 9. That whole project was a major screw-up for Boeign.

  • @WJSpies
    @WJSpies 4 месяца назад +1

    Fly on Airbus equipment, never Boeing.. faced with Boeing Max-9 boarding, cancel your flight tickets, then take the bus.

  • @TheGodpharma
    @TheGodpharma 4 месяца назад +2

    I'm not sure too many people could afford to just walk off a plane when they realise it's a Max. That ticket's never going to get refunded, plus you'll be late to wherever you were going.

    • @patrice5976
      @patrice5976 4 месяца назад +1

      You’ll be late but you’d be in one piece

    • @azeoprop
      @azeoprop 4 месяца назад

      Better late than never. You only live once.

  • @thaexception3406
    @thaexception3406 4 месяца назад

    Wow!

  • @jerryi8241
    @jerryi8241 4 месяца назад

    How do you avoid a Max if the route you are flying for example EWR to LAS has Max 800 or 900 on all flights to that destination? UA does not seem to care and put only Max’s on this route with no other options. What happened to the 757’s they used to fly or the 738’s or 739’s?

  • @fellatianno
    @fellatianno 2 месяца назад

    what could possibly be the most terrifying way to die , falling from the sky in a crashing airplane

  • @tzadiko
    @tzadiko 4 месяца назад +1

    Why does an aviation expert need a card to tell him what model of plane he's on

  • @copper_115
    @copper_115 4 месяца назад

    I love flying on Max 8. Done so on many times and will again. Think how many Max take off and land everyday without issue.

  • @dragonfly6908
    @dragonfly6908 4 месяца назад

    If the Airplane film franchise from the 1970's had a scene where the door blew off in flight everyone would be laughing and they would think it was a good comedy moment.

  • @redroad9949
    @redroad9949 4 месяца назад +1

    Boeing, the engineering focused company which put quality and safety above everything else, started to die when they acquired/merged with McDonnell Douglas. They kept their famous name - "Boeing" - but in reality the merged entity should have been renamed McDonnell Douglas as that's the culture that took root and has now spread throughout the corporation. I am sorry to say that after more than two decades of McDonnell Douglas style management the old great Boeing is dead and will never come back. So sad.

  • @matt5802
    @matt5802 4 месяца назад +1

    "if it's Boeing....I ain't going" 😮😢

    • @michaelkeller5008
      @michaelkeller5008 4 месяца назад +1

      i 2nd this! after all the issues they had with the Dreamliner, then the MAX8, now with plug doors, ...what else is there off, that just no one has seen yet?

  • @sundarsubramaniam7274
    @sundarsubramaniam7274 4 месяца назад

    Let alone the 737 MAX. I actively avoid flying on ANY Boeing plane if I can help it.

  • @trrc9276
    @trrc9276 4 месяца назад

    Clever man !

  • @pflynn581
    @pflynn581 4 месяца назад

    I think he hits the nail on the head when he says they will just look for a quick cheap solution and hope everyone forgets about it.Which they will until the next major incident.

  • @wcottee
    @wcottee 4 месяца назад

    Paraphrasing a comment by another user on a similar video..."You have to believe there is a group of engineers at Boeing that aren't surprised by this".

  • @andry954305
    @andry954305 4 месяца назад

    I feel more safe flying in a 30 year old Boeing across the Atlantic than a 737 max flying from Miami to New York. They don't make them how they used to.

  • @damnimloomin
    @damnimloomin 4 месяца назад

    Good old corporate media refusing to let anyone list out the MANY issues the max has had, not to mention the issues found on other airplanes! The 787 has had multiple production issues since the max was returned to service as well, the 737 NG wings were found to be cracking when the MAX was still grounded no one even remembers! That is how many issues there have been.

  • @johnsouth3912
    @johnsouth3912 4 месяца назад +1

    Boeing board needs accountability and perhaps jail time.

  • @Cheng-jq6fc
    @Cheng-jq6fc 2 месяца назад

    BOEING managers, & among
    other workers for the company
    ..will never aboard the plane....
    let alone FLY THE PLANE is
    wild AF...!!!!!

  • @geoffashden2
    @geoffashden2 4 месяца назад

    I too will be actively avoiding any airline that operates the 737 Max for sort to mid range journeys. These things are death traps!

  • @tzadiko
    @tzadiko 4 месяца назад

    She should have followed up on his statement that the FAA is partly responsible, because that DOES affect "air travel in general", not just a specific model

  • @riskyron1416
    @riskyron1416 4 месяца назад

    I'm with this guy. I won't fly Alaska. I won't fly on and MAX and I will no longer fly on any Boing plane or any plane operated by a US Carrier. I far prefer Airbus and Embraer.

  • @user-pq9fp7el3v
    @user-pq9fp7el3v 2 месяца назад

    " If its Boeing, I'm not going"

  • @sofiaparzivaltrain328
    @sofiaparzivaltrain328 4 месяца назад

    “If it’s Boeing, I’m not going.”

  • @pete5534
    @pete5534 4 месяца назад

    Though it pales in comparison to anyone who has been truly affected by an aviation tragedy, Boeing’s downfall hurts his aviation buff.
    A shameful departure.

  • @goodstan1260
    @goodstan1260 4 месяца назад

    Last time i flew to Italy i searched how to avoid Fly on Max

  • @keithwalker6892
    @keithwalker6892 4 месяца назад

    Good advice.the Welch type of management still exists. Make money,

  • @GTAWildestPolicechases
    @GTAWildestPolicechases 4 месяца назад

    free skydiving with every all inclusive flight

  • @user-fq7vs8dl5k
    @user-fq7vs8dl5k 4 месяца назад

    The guy that got fired from Boeing and now he says he doesn't like Boeing?

  • @slashd0t
    @slashd0t 4 месяца назад +1

    I don’t know how you avoid flying on a Max in 2023 - especially in North America - they are literally everywhere and fly on thousands on routes a day.

  • @tonamg53
    @tonamg53 4 месяца назад

    See how aerodynamically optimised his head is?
    He is definitely an industry expert. He’s know what he’s talking about.

  • @ryanarnold4790
    @ryanarnold4790 4 месяца назад

    Well his story about looking at card and seeing it’s a Max and getting off is wrong. As a former max manager he can see it’s a max before he boards. I’m an airline pilot can tell the diff very easy to a trained eye it’s diff between a 911 and 911 turbo.. Honda or Toyota minivan

  • @Smart-Towel-RG-400
    @Smart-Towel-RG-400 4 месяца назад +1

    Boeing have been cutting corners for decades the passengers are just lucky the plane didnt crash

  • @blackterminal
    @blackterminal 4 месяца назад

    Why does anyone get on a max?

  • @mrteacher1315
    @mrteacher1315 4 месяца назад

    Flying doors are extra....free flight thrills!

  • @carlberg7503
    @carlberg7503 2 месяца назад

    Where are Buttigieg and the FAA?????

  • @Cloudybox12
    @Cloudybox12 4 месяца назад

    Most people aren’t smart enough to see the aircraft information is right in front of them when they book the ticket.

  • @markfosseth8047
    @markfosseth8047 4 месяца назад

    Ed Pierson I like your professionalism and humanity, please don’t accept $5M to $10M cheques by Boeing, they will try this way too for sure.

  • @r12004rewy
    @r12004rewy 4 месяца назад

    Unfortunately despite a refresh the Max is still a 60 year old aircraft, I would never fly on one and Boeing are still having problems with the refreshed 777, they should really go back to the drawing board and design completely new models

  • @KO-im6sm
    @KO-im6sm 4 месяца назад

    Is this just max 9 planes? Southwest claims the max 8s are fine. Whats the truth

  • @jackrabbit5047
    @jackrabbit5047 4 месяца назад

    It's like if Ford made airplanes.

  • @nickcheema907
    @nickcheema907 4 месяца назад

    the 737 classic was a workhorse

  • @KO-im6sm
    @KO-im6sm 4 месяца назад

    Southwest wont ground them. They ignore you when you ask questions

  • @user-jh2pe3ss3q
    @user-jh2pe3ss3q 4 месяца назад

    This guy seemed to have called out Boeing on their shady practices while working there. They probably got rid of him to keep their operations in motion. The way he talks about leadership at Boeing says alot. I'm just thankful someone was able to speak out and let us know about the situation. I myself will NOT be flying Boeing Anything because one Plane crash is one too many!

  • @dixienormous9052
    @dixienormous9052 4 месяца назад +1

    I’m never flying one a 737 of any type

    • @andy70d35
      @andy70d35 4 месяца назад +2

      Older 737 are fine, I have flown on 737 800 a few times in the last few fears, but will never get on a Max, most of the 20 serious faults on the Max have been on new aircraft, hell one of them was 40Hr's old.

    • @Perich29
      @Perich29 4 месяца назад +1

      the 700 and the 800 are excellent as long its not a MAX.

  • @michaelkeller5008
    @michaelkeller5008 4 месяца назад

    After all the Problems the MAX has - i wonder why FAA doesn't cancel the flightstatus of that bird. Still the "ex-Boing in FAA-positions"-issue?

  • @attobuoy
    @attobuoy 4 месяца назад

    Boeing needs to establish, and listen to, the same type of quality circles that Toyota established way beck when to make their cars the most reliable on Earth.

  • @Photojouralist123
    @Photojouralist123 4 месяца назад

    what choice do we have, there's so many of these flying around.

  • @mrteacher1315
    @mrteacher1315 4 месяца назад

    LOL, silly. Just make sure you get life insurance before flying on Boeing Max. Problem solved.