The Savopoulos Family Murders

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  • Опубликовано: 1 янв 2025

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  • @MiNlanou
    @MiNlanou 3 года назад +1573

    The fact that Vera tried to attack Darren with a bat makes me cry. She tried to protect herself and the family she was working with. She had a husband and kids that were waiting for her while she was working to support her family. She is a real hero. RIP Veralicia Figueroa. Hope your children grow up to be great people!

    • @muggleintheupsidedown
      @muggleintheupsidedown 3 года назад +8

      💙

    • @Infinite-Void
      @Infinite-Void 3 года назад +82

      Nancy Grace is a piece of shit for not even saying her name. They just grazed over her and didn’t show a picture.

    • @sakuracila
      @sakuracila 3 года назад +21

      @@Infinite-Void i agree

    • @nadagabri5783
      @nadagabri5783 3 года назад +42

      She was probably fighting For her life. Which is just as honorable. Better to fight. than comply

    • @jonny5746
      @jonny5746 3 года назад +23

      Thank you! God Bless Your Beautiful Heart. I'm a 58yr old female from Ohio who thinks your words for Vera are very well put and I could feel how sincere you were. Have a Wonderful day, please. Namaste` 💜✝☮🇺🇸

  • @aliierxx1644
    @aliierxx1644 4 года назад +2474

    “he doesn’t like pizza so he didn’t commit the murders” is by far the shittiest and funniest defense i’ve ever heard

    • @CaToRi-
      @CaToRi- 4 года назад +107

      His lawyer license should be revoked for this moronic defense

    • @ivog443
      @ivog443 4 года назад +45

      have you herd the "if glove does not fit"
      defense?

    • @b4ubcomeold
      @b4ubcomeold 4 года назад +28

      That is what I was thinking too! If he thinks that is going to matter to the jury and win him the case..... he might as well not even show up cause the fact is..... whether he likes pizza or not he obviously ate a piece of pizza that was ordered during the time frame! So nobody GAF if he likes pizza or not!

    • @CaToRi-
      @CaToRi- 4 года назад +3

      @Flip Flops - exactly 😂

    • @Kayla-rd5jd
      @Kayla-rd5jd 4 года назад +31

      idk why he didn’t go further with it and just say “well he doesn’t like murder so why would he murder them! he only has a record of other things but he’s never murdered someone. clearly he doesn’t like it so he can’t be the perpetrator!”

  • @jackblack3718
    @jackblack3718 4 года назад +3260

    “No one holds a grudge for 11 years.” bro I have a whole list of shit that happened in 2009 that I'm still pissed about.

    • @briboucherr
      @briboucherr 4 года назад +99

      Lol that’s bad for your health hunny 🤣

    • @spacesloth6496
      @spacesloth6496 4 года назад +57

      When i was 5 i had a autopet Some blue purple BMW wreckt iT by driving out of his car port 45 years later i stil know this 😔😑😂

    • @michellerenee5028
      @michellerenee5028 4 года назад +1

      @Karen Morales or children

    • @michellerenee5028
      @michellerenee5028 4 года назад +45

      Mine goes back to 1992

    • @alex-e6c4c
      @alex-e6c4c 4 года назад +66

      I feel much better now lol I thought that was just me

  • @donnamartinez9114
    @donnamartinez9114 3 года назад +128

    I want to thank you Mike for speaking so respectfully when referencing the victims on your show and don't hold back with cutting and precise humour to knock down the criminals

  • @TerribleTirades
    @TerribleTirades 5 лет назад +3414

    "DNA is a junk science" -spoken by a lawyer that hasn't won a case since the development of Forensic Science

    • @nightynightshade
      @nightynightshade 5 лет назад +57

      Sean Cantley Lmfaoo 😂😂😂 I feel bad for laughing so hard

    • @neptune9961
      @neptune9961 5 лет назад +15

      LMAO

    • @ilanamillion8942
      @ilanamillion8942 5 лет назад +123

      I imagine his lawyer was pretty desperate to find something, anything, to help his horrible client.

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 5 лет назад +9

      @@ilanamillion8942 Yeah.

    • @sheylaabarca9754
      @sheylaabarca9754 5 лет назад +1

      💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @___Lyric___
    @___Lyric___ 4 года назад +751

    “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury... he doesn’t like pizza. Defense rests.”

  • @elissaharbuck2170
    @elissaharbuck2170 4 года назад +2401

    It’s so gratifying to watch that reporter making a complete ass out of the defense attorney 😂

    • @marjolewis9405
      @marjolewis9405 4 года назад +192

      She's an attorney too, a smart one. Her name is Kimberly Guilfoyle.

    • @mylesbishop1240
      @mylesbishop1240 4 года назад +104

      She is fucking amazing. Shes a rare breed in today’s world

    • @jenniferwellman5311
      @jenniferwellman5311 4 года назад +21

      Elissa Harbuck That’s not hard to do. 😂😂😂

    • @theblacklotusgaming3767
      @theblacklotusgaming3767 4 года назад +70

      @@marjolewis9405 "he doesn't like pizza" what an amazing impregnable defense, Mike Tyson couldn't do any better

    • @MilesElder
      @MilesElder 4 года назад +19

      Seriously. “He doesn’t like pizza.” Oh brother...🙄

  • @ZombieSazza
    @ZombieSazza 3 года назад +577

    “He doesn’t like pizza”
    “DNA is a junk science”
    Bruh just say he’s guilty, it’s less embarrassing

    • @InderjitSidhux
      @InderjitSidhux 3 года назад +52

      If I were a judge I would add 5 years for lying about not liking pizza.

    • @victoriastang
      @victoriastang 3 года назад +21

      @@InderjitSidhux And another 5 for saying that "DNA is a junk science" with a straight face.

    • @PoptartParasol
      @PoptartParasol 3 года назад +20

      "There are no pizza huts in his country"
      My mans really thinks all of south america is just a desolate wasteland with no structural buildings that might sell something as simple as food.
      Smh cringe

    • @Buzza235
      @Buzza235 3 года назад +8

      He should've said he was allergic to pizza and that he spat on it when he was offered a slice.

    • @stephenmcdonagh2795
      @stephenmcdonagh2795 3 года назад +12

      And he seems to think there's a language called British.

  • @littlebambi5147
    @littlebambi5147 4 года назад +692

    I feel so sad for those two girls who lost their family and had absolutely no idea what was going on while they were away at school

    • @agnesdiona5692
      @agnesdiona5692 3 года назад +4

      Where did they stay after school?

    • @anne9071
      @anne9071 3 года назад +22

      Agnes Diona : I think they were at a boarding school, not a neighborhood school.

    • @EclipseSeth
      @EclipseSeth 3 года назад +19

      And then the murderer says he didn't kill their parents because he doesn't like pizza.

    • @catherinepeterson22
      @catherinepeterson22 3 года назад +21

      it is so sad ): but I know their oldest daughter is doing well now, and I know her parents would be very proud!

    • @seanpaul212121
      @seanpaul212121 3 года назад +1

      @@catherinepeterson22 these nuts bro

  • @imtierd3951
    @imtierd3951 4 года назад +324

    that voicemail with the screaming in the background is haunting...

    • @thinkforyourself2109
      @thinkforyourself2109 4 года назад +17

      That murderer will almost certainly go to Hell. His soul is damned. I hope he lives in fear and sees the face of that child every night. He deserves to be haunted and to suffer for eternity.

    • @Martin-id1ri
      @Martin-id1ri 3 года назад +8

      @@thinkforyourself2109 bet if he confenses, God will forgive him!

    • @thinkforyourself2109
      @thinkforyourself2109 3 года назад +5

      @@Martin-id1ri You could be right, but it's God's call, not ours. There are several Bible verses to the effect that God is the final judge of all, not us. Who knows what the judgement will be? We can only hope that it is just. I was presumptuous to say that the murderer will got to hell. I don't know that for certain.

    • @Martin-id1ri
      @Martin-id1ri 3 года назад +4

      @@thinkforyourself2109 God knows our heart and if he confenses with a true heart and regret God will forgive him, we saw it in bible with david, and paul and also there is a guy that become a saint by punishing himself because of a murder that he comitted, and also there is a verse in the bible saying the last will be first and the first will be last!

    • @thinkforyourself2109
      @thinkforyourself2109 3 года назад +6

      @@Martin-id1ri That's all true. Anything is possible. I just don't believe the pardon that God gives is automatic. There must be real repentance. There must be consequences for our actions in the life to come. Otherwise, nothing makes sense. Certainly, God can forgive murderers. St. Paul is a good example. So is King David. But in both cases, they knew they had sinned and really humbled themselves before God with great sincerity of heart.

  • @keatonscreations
    @keatonscreations 5 лет назад +415

    My heart breaks for this poor family. As a mother I cannot imagine watching your child be bound, tortured and killed and not be able to do a single thing about it. This is such an evil situation that I can’t even comprehend it. I cannot wrap my mind around it.

    • @l.aw.t9727
      @l.aw.t9727 5 лет назад +23

      Most sensible comment on here yes indeed that poor wee boy horrific 😢

    • @mortonmilletto262
      @mortonmilletto262 5 лет назад

      BTK was worse he had a clean record.

    • @keatonscreations
      @keatonscreations 5 лет назад +21

      Morton Milletto what? I don’t feel like that’s relevant to my comment. Are you sure you commented on the right one?

    • @66hoodwitch
      @66hoodwitch 5 лет назад +21

      Finaly a normal comment that doesnt involve pizza ...rip family !

    • @williss11
      @williss11 5 лет назад +5

      Yea it’s truly a evil thing to do and nightmare. Who knows what really happen? You can never tell in these rich circles.. I can only pray these daughters are safe and fine

  • @wolfafterdark
    @wolfafterdark 3 года назад +446

    I feel the worst for Vera's husband.
    He was right there. Right. There.

    • @sydneypaul878
      @sydneypaul878 3 года назад +9

      heartbroken

    • @cynthiahusband106
      @cynthiahusband106 3 года назад +27

      I remember reading about these murders,home invasion was on the rise, still is BUT to hold these dear people hostage and their small son must have been “hell on earth” surely they knew what was going to happen, how this was going to end-the thing I don’t understand why was the death penalty not implemented in such a horrific crime where 4 people lost their lives -time and again “ life in prison without parole “ seems to be the choice of punishment “ I just don’t understand , the judicial system seems so lenient in so many of these horrific , absolutely heinous crimes , I just don’t get it, death penalty hardly ever used anymore. Little Phillip being killed along with his parents absolute horror.

    • @ZombieSazza
      @ZombieSazza 3 года назад +9

      @@kingjinder5421 yeah I’m from Scotland and whilst I understand the sentiment of life in prison, where they’re stuck to rot in prison for the rest of their life, I guess folk want the death penalty for some peace of mind, so they have some finality and justice.
      I live maybe 1.5 miles from the former Craiginches Prison where the last man executed in Scotland (1963), and honestly I can understand it to a point, despite Scotland not having sentenced someone to death for 58 years

    • @luvondarox
      @luvondarox 3 года назад +8

      @@kingjinder5421 A freeway ticket to death's door with no inkling of punishment?
      In America, the average wait time for Death Row inmates to visit "Deathxs Door," is about 18 years. If they don't get shanked or pardoned first. They'll face plenty of time in prison.

    • @steve9473
      @steve9473 3 года назад +8

      He was better off not entering. He could have been next. Though the chair scraping bit was a bit of a clue that something was off. He might have called the cops to just check up on the house probably something he regrets to this day. Poor guy. The best chance the family had was the pizza guy not recognizing the odd suggestion by the client to just leave the pizza at the door and noticing that the house was dark so sad.

  • @Duphe
    @Duphe 4 года назад +517

    "he does not like pizza!" does this lawyer cost money?

    • @joem3009
      @joem3009 3 года назад +26

      Lawyer gets paid in Pizza... he hates pizza 🍕 now!

    • @SupportMensMentalHealth
      @SupportMensMentalHealth 3 года назад +14

      That lawyer really doubles down on that pizza thing, just cos Guyana doesnt have a pizza store on it doesnt mean he doesnt like it, the small town I used to live in didnt have a pizza store (20 years ago but you get my point) and I love pizza, shops sell frozen pizza so that lawyer is out of touch.
      DNA is a junk science, I practically peed

    • @Gos1234567
      @Gos1234567 3 года назад +1

      @@SupportMensMentalHealth The jury got a good laugh at least

    • @annehedonia156
      @annehedonia156 3 года назад +5

      @@SupportMensMentalHealth Well, as someone else here pointed out, he did only take _one_ bite. So, he may not like pizza, but was hungry enough to take 'a' bite.

    • @docbailey3265
      @docbailey3265 3 года назад +3

      Pizza IS my favorite food so I guess I better turn myself in.

  • @emd344
    @emd344 5 лет назад +476

    "He doesn't like pizza"
    "DNA is a junk science"
    This guy

    • @MrPoogly
      @MrPoogly 5 лет назад +6

      I guess all those people exonerated by DNA should be put back in prison

    • @JLynnEchelon
      @JLynnEchelon 5 лет назад +11

      I mean, I get that a defense lawyer's job is to clear his client, but wow, this guy is stretching the limits of sense.

    • @everwhat013
      @everwhat013 5 лет назад +16

      "his mother doesn't like pizza, his sister doesn't like pizza, his brothers don't like pizza" "his brothers did it"

    • @emd344
      @emd344 5 лет назад +5

      @@everwhat013 oh shit, I didn't even think about that. Now I just wish that the gal interviewing him pointed that out.

    • @kasperutz6257
      @kasperutz6257 5 лет назад +2

      No doubt he'll be guesting in an episode on the next Season of CSI....

  • @crypticraps
    @crypticraps 5 лет назад +1873

    "He doesn't like pizza, that is not his food choice"
    Case closed

    • @annarose4308
      @annarose4308 5 лет назад +21

      Psychopath confirmed 😂

    • @tranzco1173
      @tranzco1173 5 лет назад +46

      it's the OJ Simpson defense: "If the pizza isn't bit, you must acquit", oh wait, it was half eaten. also, everyone knows everyone loves pizza, and there are pizza places all over Ghana, I checked.

    • @jacksoncn
      @jacksoncn 5 лет назад +29

      HAHA! That was SHOCKING. and "DNA is a junk science, he doesn't like PIZZA!"

    • @tranzco1173
      @tranzco1173 5 лет назад +24

      @Jasper Jones You're probably racist, we all know that only Italians (southern Italians mainly) eat pizza. As an Irish American I only eat potatoes and the occasional fish and chips on payday. His lawyer's case is airtight legit. The reason defendants DNA was on pizza? His captors - the Greek (which is kinda like Italian) family - forced him to eat pizza, they jammed it into his mouth, as a form of torture.
      It wasn't even good pizza, which is further proof.
      The suspect would have ordered much better high end pizza if it wasn't his money.
      "If the pizza isn't legit, you must acquit." Case closed.

    • @splint3048
      @splint3048 5 лет назад +6

      @@annarose4308 No just a desperate attorney with an extraordinarily weak defense.

  • @lolaspratt5860
    @lolaspratt5860 3 года назад +29

    I just saw something on Instagram about one of their daughters and her new baby with her husband. So awful what these families went through. I hope she and her sister and Vera’s family are hanging in there after this tragedy.

  • @reinamatheny9972
    @reinamatheny9972 4 года назад +317

    Love this lady who interviewed this pathetic, crooked lawyer~ she eviscerated him!

    • @philipkoekemoer4705
      @philipkoekemoer4705 4 года назад +13

      Kimberly Gilfoyle, Donald Trump Jr's girlfriend

    • @Milenaiguess
      @Milenaiguess 4 года назад +12

      @@philipkoekemoer4705 true but she still did the right thing

    • @michellejohnson1298
      @michellejohnson1298 3 года назад

      @@philipkoekemoer4705 you mean coke head Bimberly Ghoulfoyle.

  • @caninecastleddc
    @caninecastleddc 5 лет назад +2209

    “No one holds a grudge for 11 years.” You haven’t met my grandma.

    • @laurasmith1078
      @laurasmith1078 5 лет назад +52

      I hear Italians hold them forever lol

    • @SundayMourningLove
      @SundayMourningLove 5 лет назад +35

      I was thinking the exact same thing except abt my mum! Lol! (Obviously I wasn't thinking it abt your grandma bc Idk your grandma, lol)

    • @ec-3po
      @ec-3po 5 лет назад +3

      Same

    • @JoseMaria-ng1qp
      @JoseMaria-ng1qp 5 лет назад +5

      Or me.... Haha

    • @d.george
      @d.george 5 лет назад +17

      Or my entire Greek family.

  • @rosemosebose
    @rosemosebose 3 года назад +55

    god.... back when “ring the doorbell, drop off the food and leave” was suspicious instead of expected

  • @peslacbill
    @peslacbill 4 года назад +509

    That lawyer... Damn, do they just randomly hand out law degrees now?

    • @luisferreiro
      @luisferreiro 4 года назад +10

      Yes.

    • @eliaschelios7724
      @eliaschelios7724 4 года назад +7

      They do...all you need is to have a bachelor degree in any other career, and apply to law school...

    • @goldkhw
      @goldkhw 4 года назад +4

      @@eliaschelios7724 and then cheat on the exam...

    • @cassandra9581
      @cassandra9581 4 года назад +19

      "DNA is a junk science" yikes, this guy is a complete moron

    • @almondlattes
      @almondlattes 4 года назад +18

      I think he was just trying desperately to find something he can say to defend his client. It happens and being a lawyer is all about talking and convincing...even if you have to say the dumbest shit 😂

  • @k8marlowe
    @k8marlowe 4 года назад +180

    That little boy was the spitting image of his daddy. The whole thing is just so tragic.

    • @jumpinjohnnyruss
      @jumpinjohnnyruss 3 года назад

      Hey, adopted kids matter too.

    • @amandastakeonit7402
      @amandastakeonit7402 2 года назад +1

      @@jumpinjohnnyruss...and???!!! Go troll elsewhere!

    • @jumpinjohnnyruss
      @jumpinjohnnyruss 2 года назад

      @@amandastakeonit7402 Why do you draw my attention to this if you want me to be elsewhere?
      The kid's resemblance to his father doesn't add to the tragedy.

    • @bhaskarjyabaruah1090
      @bhaskarjyabaruah1090 2 года назад

      @@jumpinjohnnyruss 😆😆👑🙌🏼

    • @j.c.9336
      @j.c.9336 2 месяца назад

      You mean to tell me children can look like their parents?! Shocking!

  • @KaoStarrBellydance
    @KaoStarrBellydance 3 года назад +363

    I've listened to alot of true crime.. but this one, with young Philip, really broke my heart. He was only 10yrs old. He stayed home from school because he was sick. Dammit. To think he might have been safe at school and not home at all. Poor child. The whole thing is tragic, but hearing about him really got to me.

    • @debbied9501
      @debbied9501 3 года назад +7

      Me too ... just horrifying

    • @oceanelf2512
      @oceanelf2512 3 года назад +9

      It breaks my heart too. Anything involving kidnap and torture is especially horrible.

    • @v.e2035
      @v.e2035 3 года назад +6

      You haven't heard alot of true crime. Kids ... murders and kidnapping of them...are the most horrifying displays of evil.

    • @wendyw8931
      @wendyw8931 3 года назад +7

      In this day & age, school isn't always a safe place.

    • @alexandervelez9507
      @alexandervelez9507 3 года назад +15

      sadly he would have had to come home and walk into the chaos at some point. (assuming he took the bus)

  • @michaeljohnston4459
    @michaeljohnston4459 3 года назад +30

    That lawyer has some balls to be able to keep a straight face with that defense theory.

    • @LifesPeachy321
      @LifesPeachy321 10 месяцев назад

      "I bet your DNA is in other people's homes..." Yeah, but not on a piece of pizza...that puts him directly in that home. Defense attorney's are so frickin' annoying...flat out lie, twist the facts and do whatever they can to put their criminally dangerous POS clients back on the street. I believe in a good defense, but sometimes these lawyers don't have any conscience at all...that goes for prosecution too...they both do it!

  • @810wasaninsidejob9
    @810wasaninsidejob9 4 года назад +537

    This is why I lock my door, even during the day. No one ever thinks it will happen to them until it does. Sure, it's extremely rare and likely won't ever happen, but why take the chance?

    • @davidp4270
      @davidp4270 4 года назад +19

      This is why I carry a gun even when home

    • @VileVisionshaunt
      @VileVisionshaunt 4 года назад +46

      My girlfriend is notorious for this. We don’t live in a very safe place either. It’s not the most dangerous part of the big city but 3 people were shot across the street from my house 3 days ago. They all survived. I would suggest everyone everywhere just always lock their doors. Even in a small town, you have travelers. Don’t even take a chance.

    • @cattibingo
      @cattibingo 4 года назад +2

      @Just Me There's no way that's an accurate number, at least i hope not

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 4 года назад +17

      @SSDD Life
      It’s so sad, because in the 1970s-80s when I was a kid growing up, our suburb was so safe that everyone not only kept their doors unlocked during the day, but at night-time too (we also always kept our garage doors open, and our neighbors would come right through our garage and walk into our house after a simple vocal “knock knock”)...
      We left our bikes out in front of the house, and cars were left unlocked in the driveway, etc. No one ever stole anything, and there was zero crime.
      _THEN_ the results of the 1965 immigration and nationality act + open borders started being noticeable. “The Night Stalker” (parents were iII.egaI) emerged in the mid-80s, and was terrorizing Californians in a years long rampage, breaking into their houses at night and doing all sorts of heinous shit before ultimately brutally kiIIing them...
      So many kids were popping up as missing on milk cartons too. We started locking our doors at night, and shutting our garage doors.
      Then as the 90s came, we began locking our doors during the daytime too. The innocent way of life where we weren’t scared of anything was over. It’s a damn fucking shame.
      I miss those early days.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 4 года назад +5

      @Just Me
      Lol. He’s not doing shit about it. That’s Q propaganda.

  • @Daisieheart
    @Daisieheart 5 лет назад +368

    "no one holds a grudge for 11 years"
    bruh A LOT of people hold grudges for even longer than that

    • @rammibear9649
      @rammibear9649 5 лет назад +12

      I have held a grudge for 20 years for my sister in law. She's poison.

    • @ciaragildea998
      @ciaragildea998 4 года назад +7

      I'm only just getting over a grudge for someone putting chocolate in my hair when we were 7. I'm 24 now

    • @samiak112
      @samiak112 4 года назад +8

      Right. I still hold a grudge against my mother for birthing me. Was so unnecessary....

    • @karenmeehan4477
      @karenmeehan4477 4 года назад

      @@samiak112 lmao 😂😂😂😂

    • @camerynr8344
      @camerynr8344 4 года назад +1

      I still hold a grudge on this girl named Anna for stealing my favorite purple hair tie. I was in 1st grade and I'm about to be a senior. haven't talked to her for about 12 years even though I see her almost everyday.

  • @sheilamacpherson4948
    @sheilamacpherson4948 5 лет назад +138

    When, "that's not his food choice" is the best a lawyer has, you're in trouble.

    • @michaelkennedy5126
      @michaelkennedy5126 4 года назад

      How did that lawyer wind up defending Wint?

    • @jackblack3718
      @jackblack3718 4 года назад +2

      @@michaelkennedy5126 I imagine he's either a public defender (in which case I feel so sorry for the poor SOBs who get stuck with him, save for Daron) or he was actively trying to sabotage the case so his client would have grounds for appeal

  • @chrisw6164
    @chrisw6164 3 года назад +46

    My brother tricked me and sent me to someone’s house to do some work, and I accidentally kidnapped four people, tortured, and murdered them.

  • @britishcodfish1472
    @britishcodfish1472 5 лет назад +547

    “Y’honor, I do not like pizza”
    “Damn, you’re free to go.”

    • @jessiefrye3045
      @jessiefrye3045 5 лет назад +3

      Precisely .

    • @donnasiddle6613
      @donnasiddle6613 5 лет назад

      Ha ha exactly wiw ive heard aone good defences in my time but this has to be the best by far lmao

    • @KingofHearts
      @KingofHearts 4 года назад +3

      The lawyer was totally trolling his client. I bet he was government appointed lawyer, who could see the writing on the wall and decided to have some fun with it.

    • @fattyjaybird7505
      @fattyjaybird7505 4 года назад

      "That is not his food choice!" Lol...gmafb

    • @heartolion89
      @heartolion89 4 года назад

      I'm not buying into this defense lawyer. I've seen way better

  • @blackhaze7350
    @blackhaze7350 4 года назад +246

    The defense attorney really embarassed himself on national television. "He doesn't like pizza!" Seriously? LOL

    • @blackhaze7350
      @blackhaze7350 4 года назад +6

      @AmericanRelic2hear I doubt it. Imagine the amount of money he would make off of new clientele if he was able to get the charges dropped despite the evidence in this case.

    • @michaelkennedy5126
      @michaelkennedy5126 4 года назад +5

      IT'S NOT HIS FOOD CHOICE!

    • @zamrabbit
      @zamrabbit 4 года назад +7

      I guess when you have to defend someone who is so sooo clearly guilty, sometimes you have to clutch at straws!

    • @luv4songsonly
      @luv4songsonly 3 года назад +2

      @@zamrabbit yeah esp when that chick kept spitting boldass hard facts his way. I would have shat myself in his position XD

    • @amandathompson444
      @amandathompson444 2 года назад

      That reporter told his as* biggg time! Love her 👏 “Does that make any sense sir? “

  • @LeeDee5
    @LeeDee5 5 лет назад +355

    That lawyer: If the pizza don't fit, you must acquit.

    • @DoveLady
      @DoveLady 5 лет назад +1

      😂😂😂😂 THAT IS NOT HIS FOOD CHOICE

    • @jerryb4705
      @jerryb4705 5 лет назад +4

      At first I thought his lawyer was crazy but once he said "his mother doesn't like pizza,,his sister doesn't like pizza".....that makes sense! he has to be innocent...

    • @amylumbard3615
      @amylumbard3615 5 лет назад +4

      "Pineapple and ham, you are free man"

    • @dontcopymystyle4469
      @dontcopymystyle4469 5 лет назад +1

      🤦🏽‍♂️😭

    • @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911
      @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911 4 года назад

      Lol, Johnny, la gente esta muy loca

  • @jeremiah9798
    @jeremiah9798 3 года назад +23

    This story BROKE MY HEART INTO PIECES.! 😭 That poor family.! This was a HARD one to watch.

  • @carldagroundskeeper
    @carldagroundskeeper 5 лет назад +733

    “No one holds a grudge for 11 years.”
    "There is no pizza where he's from."
    "DNA is a junk science."
    Anybody else feeling kinda/sorta envious of this lawyer? I mean, his world sounds really peaceful.

    • @YevOnegin
      @YevOnegin 4 года назад +58

      I genuinely believe he hated the guy so much that he intentionally threw the case. I don't think even the worst lawyers are this stupid.

    • @tiltedhalo9888
      @tiltedhalo9888 4 года назад +8

      Ah .. to exist in a simpler time .

    • @sometimesometimenot
      @sometimesometimenot 4 года назад

      😂😂

    • @tinapresley4286
      @tinapresley4286 4 года назад +2

      DAN Is NOT just science dude... DNA Doesn't NOT lie... Do more research on this.. OK?

    • @arctain1
      @arctain1 4 года назад +7

      Peaceful world.... without pizza??? Impossible 😜

  • @anthonysheriff5499
    @anthonysheriff5499 5 лет назад +614

    “He doesn’t like pizza-“ _he’s the murderer isn’t he_
    Edit: So you’re telling me this guy has the guts to murder 4 people but can’t stomach _pizza crust?_ 🤨

    • @speedingatheist
      @speedingatheist 5 лет назад +9

      New York Times: "PewDiePie doesn't like pizza crust! Coincidence?"

    • @anthonysheriff5499
      @anthonysheriff5499 5 лет назад +5

      @Speeding Atheist obviously he’s one of the brothers that got away with this.

    • @sephirahisui
      @sephirahisui 5 лет назад +14

      Why do people leave the crust? It's the best part!

    • @snakekingblues3017
      @snakekingblues3017 5 лет назад

      Yup

    • @eddiedingle767
      @eddiedingle767 5 лет назад +2

      Anthony Sheriff well, he speaks British

  • @therealzuxana
    @therealzuxana 5 лет назад +314

    "No one how a grudge for 11 years.". Dude should talk to my mother then. She still wants to find and hurt people who crossed her 30 years ago and she's close to 70 now!

    • @zisira2469
      @zisira2469 5 лет назад +16

      Sounds like a typical narcissistic personality disorder

    • @ianmacfarlane1241
      @ianmacfarlane1241 5 лет назад +14

      @Kieran Prince
      Look up Glencoe Massacre and next time you meet a MacDonald ask them about the Campbells.
      That's a 300 year grudge.

    • @ianmacfarlane1241
      @ianmacfarlane1241 5 лет назад +2

      @Enda Dorgan Howzitgaun Enda? ✌️

    • @sayingthethingstheywont2619
      @sayingthethingstheywont2619 5 лет назад +7

      Bro, african americans are out there killing people for shit that went down generations ago, their the kangz of holding grudges.

    • @joprent6727
      @joprent6727 5 лет назад +1

      My Mum was the same. Lol

  • @TheTonyMcD
    @TheTonyMcD 3 года назад +39

    "He doesn't like pizza"
    Wow! This defense is almost as good as "the glove doesn't fit"

    • @BB-pg5kl
      @BB-pg5kl 3 года назад +4

      OJ was going to be found not guilty no matter because of the recent riots with Rodney King. Pretty sad with unbelievable amount of hard evidence they had on him.

    • @Floridaman1780_
      @Floridaman1780_ 3 года назад +1

      Well, one of them actually worked.

    • @Floridaman1780_
      @Floridaman1780_ 3 года назад +2

      @@BB-pg5kl I disagree. The prosecutors were in WAY over their head. A good prosecution team would've nailed Juice. The mood in L.A. definitely didnt help though, particularly with the racist cop involved in the investigation.

    • @BB-pg5kl
      @BB-pg5kl 3 года назад +1

      @@Floridaman1780_ the amount of physical evidence against him alone brought up in trial should've made it a for t sure conviction. At the time of the trial OJ was not getting convicted unless he was on camera doing it.

    • @Floridaman1780_
      @Floridaman1780_ 3 года назад +3

      @@BB-pg5kl I think the cop refusing to answer the question on whether or not he "planted or manufactured" any evidence was the reasonable doubt they needed. I agree he was guilty as sin, but I think the state screwed the pooch.

  • @julienwuu4055
    @julienwuu4055 5 лет назад +141

    There's no way there was someone else involved, and here's why: The suspect would have thrown him under the bus immediatly to get a smaller sentence. Just look how he would just blame anyone, like his two brothers, eventhough they had nothing to do with it..and are related to him. You think he would protect someone who was actually involved? Nope.

    • @jennygoins1632
      @jennygoins1632 5 лет назад +12

      This is a good point. I was actually wondering myself, however, as morbid as this sounds, if he could've been paid the 40K (10k per body) to do this by....I cringe to type this....one or both of the daughters, or even the grandfather. The girls were away at school but any of the 3 could've easily gotten the killer a garage opener that he may have had in a pocket so no one saw him press a button & it would appear to open for him. If it was the grandfather, he could've had enough money himself to intimidate the killer into keeping quiet or implicating his brother(s) in order to to create reasonable doubt or at least a distraction from himself. The killer may not have been able to be extradited back from certain countries but a grandfather with enough money could've found him & had him killed if he didn't keep his mouth shut. Not sure about motive for that, but I was wondering since the video mentioned 2 older daughters not present at the time & then after hearing that one of the girls filed a CPO on the grandfather. I don't necessarily think there were other perpetrators present but he seems to have been helped in some way.

    • @laceyleighlovell2967
      @laceyleighlovell2967 4 года назад +7

      @@jennygoins1632 yeah, I wondered about that too, but the little boy wasn't supposed to be there. He was home sick that day.

  • @gillianwills9049
    @gillianwills9049 5 лет назад +325

    They should've set up an alert word with their home security company, who could've alerted the Police.
    When my Dad was a bank manager (old school, proper, not like nowadays) he had an alert word with my Mum in case he was being held... If he called to say he was late and asked how Peter was, she was to call the Police.. there was no Peter.
    This simple method could've been a huge head start...

    • @leoniesmith9406
      @leoniesmith9406 4 года назад +9

      I thought the same thing

    • @superd9072
      @superd9072 4 года назад +17

      Absolutely, everyone needs a safe word.

    • @search5819
      @search5819 4 года назад +5

      SECURITY COMPANIES DO LET YOU CHOOSE A SECURITY PIN WHEN YOU SET OFF THE ALARM BY MISTAKE...

    • @shellyh.8409
      @shellyh.8409 4 года назад +24

      My family had a secret word. This was long before cell phones. If someone knocked on the door when our parents weren't home, or claimed our parents asked them to pick us up, we were supposed to ask for the word. If we were in trouble and couldn't say so, we were told to use the word. More families should do this.

    • @elizabethbartlett7081
      @elizabethbartlett7081 4 года назад +4

      Oh, that’s cleaver. I might have to set up a petter in my life.

  • @mamonzote
    @mamonzote 4 года назад +671

    The moment your boss asks you to take him 40k to his house and just leave it on the car, i would call the police. Its his money he doesnt need me to take it to him. Thats a lot of money in cash, and very suspicious.

    • @NatalieMarie917
      @NatalieMarie917 4 года назад +89

      Yeah, that would raise some alarm bells to me too. I would also want to make sure he witnessed me delivering the money (in full), just in case something happened between the time of drop off and the time he came to retrieve it... I wouldn’t want there to be any suspicion that I stole the money. And I definitely wouldn’t want to be responsible for recovering/repaying any lost funds

    • @zangbadge595brokemyneck2
      @zangbadge595brokemyneck2 4 года назад

      I’m subscribed 🤣

    • @ceebee491
      @ceebee491 4 года назад +2

      Innit!!!!

    • @bresams2917
      @bresams2917 4 года назад +23

      Exactly!!! That's why I believe that dude bought the cash had to be in on it! Why him bring the money?? Why not someone else ?? & he didn't call police!? I mean wtf.

    • @James-co2nb
      @James-co2nb 4 года назад +19

      Depends what's regular for your job

  • @MystikAzn4vr
    @MystikAzn4vr 3 года назад +13

    "no one holds a grudge for 11 years" um... sir, you obviously do not know how grudges work. The longer it's been the more "grudgy" it becomes.

  • @Polskimg
    @Polskimg 5 лет назад +263

    "no one holds a grudge for 11 years"
    I guess he never read The Count of Monte Cristo.

    • @huejass1325
      @huejass1325 5 лет назад +7

      Polskimg Great book and movie!

    • @annereidy7981
      @annereidy7981 5 лет назад +1

      @@huejass1325 That book is a work of fiction. not the best evidence, but some will wait as long as it takes to get an opportunity, so not a good judge of people for a professional lawyer.

    • @ff6girl
      @ff6girl 4 года назад

      I haven't either, but I LOVED James Caviezel as the character of the count. 😸 But I see your point, people do hold grudges, but I guess to those who aren't easily bothered by that it may be a novel idea.

    • @liechtli
      @liechtli 4 года назад

      @@annereidy7981 Its a joke, obviously. Besides, the lawyer didn't seem all thet professional did he.
      And there's real world evidence of people holding a grudge -and eventually killing a person- for a very long time.

    • @Scratchingforcash
      @Scratchingforcash 3 года назад

      Movie was amazing

  • @getsnapple9811
    @getsnapple9811 3 года назад +348

    The housekeeper.. that shit breaks my heart my mom used to do housekeeping to provide for me and my siblings. Que descanse en paz 🙏🏼, my condolences to her family.

    • @sandravegavera2954
      @sandravegavera2954 3 года назад +5

      Las mamás latinas somos la onda, siempre viendo por nuestras familias.
      Abrazos a ti, a tu ma y a toda la familia.

    • @ejc1692
      @ejc1692 3 года назад +17

      To leave EL SALVADOR for a better life only to be executed in a so-called better country; my country by the way. Unbelievable, just unreal. And she tried defending them all from the coward - what a true heroine! 💪God bless her and all who were murdered and their survivors. 💜🙏

    • @psychoticserenity6510
      @psychoticserenity6510 3 года назад +4

      A little boy was murdered as well but the housekeeper breaks your heart. 🤦‍♂️

    • @kat.w.RBF444
      @kat.w.RBF444 3 года назад +24

      @@psychoticserenity6510 you can feel especially bad for one because the circumstances echo your own situation, as in this case for Aylin Rocha because of her mother, and it doesn’t mean you don’t also mourn the senseless loss of a little boy. She never said she doesn’t feel horrible for that child, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t normally comment but I feel like picking a fight or taking issue with a comment like this is unnecessary. I doubt anyone watching this didn’t feel terrible for everyone involved except the piece of garbage who murdered them.

    • @swat3563
      @swat3563 3 года назад +11

      @@psychoticserenity6510 such a weird comment to post..

  • @bagramdave883
    @bagramdave883 4 года назад +115

    I think for how much I've watched of this kids hard work, it's only fair I sent him a $20. Best channel on true crime and he ' s never even asked for money

    • @justinmartin4662
      @justinmartin4662 3 года назад +2

      From what I’ve read about how much they get paid per views and such, he doesn’t need to ask for money as he’s making plenty.

    • @bagramdave883
      @bagramdave883 3 года назад +20

      @@justinmartin4662 What he earns has literally NOTHING to do with the product he creates for us to enjoy. Is the product he makes worth a few bucks to you? That’s the question. NETFLIX earns hundreds of millions, yet some people find the products worth the cost. Furthermore, who decides how much he makes is too much? You? Me? Nope.

    • @DaisyMae439
      @DaisyMae439 3 года назад +1

      @@bagramdave883 well then you better just send him thousands and thousands of dollars if it makes you happy!

    • @sharonfahy6384
      @sharonfahy6384 3 года назад +8

      @@bagramdave883 i agree, i watch this channel all the time, so well worth me sending a few pounds, he tells the storys so good 😁

    • @bagramdave883
      @bagramdave883 3 года назад +3

      @@DaisyMae439 Nope. I don’t send thousands. $25 a year makes happy.

  • @mik3pif782
    @mik3pif782 3 года назад +24

    The interview is like a bit straight from the onion news. I can see the title in my head "Lawyer defends murderer by saying "He doesnt like pizza""

  • @mecca269
    @mecca269 4 года назад +1251

    RIP to Ms Vera. She’s not just an employee of a wealthy family, she was a person, a mom, and a wife 😔

    • @sandiasurfers3174
      @sandiasurfers3174 3 года назад +64

      Where did anyone insinuate otherwise besides your own prejudices? You know that information because the video told you.
      I work as a janitor and it’s a job. It’s on you if you think I’m less than because of wealth and occupation.

    • @TJ-th1bo
      @TJ-th1bo 3 года назад +19

      @@sandiasurfers3174
      Proud of you for saying that out loud. People who clean for a living are sometimes more educated and wealthier than you can imagine.
      They just do it to pass the time and they like to keep busy. People are too quick to judge based on occupation.

    • @dirtyjogger8418
      @dirtyjogger8418 3 года назад +34

      And a maid... what’s wrong with that? Thanks Karen, we appreciate your virtue signal

    • @radicaltexannewsviews7685
      @radicaltexannewsviews7685 3 года назад +3

      Rip to all.... To those picking one person shame on u. . Wwjd if he saw that... Jus saying grow up. This was tragic and I hope the Pi's get 10 x worse. I hope their families hire some friends to handle business. This is horrid.... People kill for two dollars and we need them to pay thru the nose...

    • @radicaltexannewsviews7685
      @radicaltexannewsviews7685 3 года назад

      Dna doesn't lie but attys do. Truth be known I do feel like the dad was connected it's too fishy.. regardless DNA on a pizza GUILTY

  • @kagama1408
    @kagama1408 4 года назад +496

    "Who holds a grudge for 11 years?"
    The Count of Monte Cristo

    • @saraa1741
      @saraa1741 4 года назад +9

      Lmaoooo. I love me some Count of Montecristo.

    • @nikkilengyel
      @nikkilengyel 4 года назад +6

      Brilliant 😂😂😂👏👏👏 (I love that story btw)

    • @evilfairy85
      @evilfairy85 4 года назад

      I do 🙋‍♀️ i am still freaking mad at something that happened to me in 2009

    • @eruditeinteractions8258
      @eruditeinteractions8258 4 года назад

      LMAO.......

    • @deaconstjohn4842
      @deaconstjohn4842 4 года назад

      lmfao good example dude

  • @8bubblez8
    @8bubblez8 4 года назад +114

    This proves my theory all along.
    Can't trust anyone who doesn't like pizza.

    • @beeirving783
      @beeirving783 3 года назад +1

      Lol… that was a good one

    • @Aurgelmer444
      @Aurgelmer444 3 года назад +1

      Or a maniac with an extensive criminal record.

    • @mirrrstery
      @mirrrstery 3 года назад

      Ha

  • @soynymphfaery
    @soynymphfaery 5 лет назад +403

    Torturing anyone is terrible but how can you do that to a kid?

    • @phoneone1371
      @phoneone1371 5 лет назад +35

      Its diversity embrace it its working awsome in EU

    • @sweetlife0369
      @sweetlife0369 5 лет назад +33

      Torturing while other family members watch. My bloods boiling.

    • @paptrisha
      @paptrisha 5 лет назад +17

      Not liking pizza can make a man a monster

    • @tupa12
      @tupa12 5 лет назад +1

      Two gang banter thugs did this...... brain washed

    • @sarahnightwing2936
      @sarahnightwing2936 5 лет назад +2

      I don't do that to a kid or anyone else 😒

  • @TheAdditionalPylons
    @TheAdditionalPylons 5 лет назад +81

    DNA at the scene: Not definitive evidence. "I don't even like pizza!" : Ironclad evidence

  • @sirwhodison
    @sirwhodison 5 лет назад +195

    Lawyer- " he doesnt even like pizza.."
    Judge-"damnit...ur free to go"

    • @sheylaabarca9754
      @sheylaabarca9754 5 лет назад +2

      💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @kingsasuke86
      @kingsasuke86 5 лет назад +4

      "If the Glove don't fit you must acquit" worked for OJ 🤷🏾‍♂️ ya never know what wired shit the law will accept

    • @Saffron-sugar
      @Saffron-sugar 5 лет назад +6

      “ they don’t have pizza in Guyana it’s a British speaking country”....
      1) British is not a language
      2) Google says there’s about 50 pizza restaurants in Guyana

    • @littleredwitch
      @littleredwitch 5 лет назад

      Saffron Sugar they are just there for the tourists 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @sirwhodison
      @sirwhodison 5 лет назад +1

      @Islam is correct About women moh a med was a pedophile

  • @lizabuddenhagen9906
    @lizabuddenhagen9906 3 года назад +4

    I remember when this happened. I grew up outside Washington, DC, and worked as a live-in nanny in DC as a teenager. The family had a maid and she was from El Salvador too. Turns out I also went to the same high school as Amy and Savvas, but about 6 years apart.

  • @imissmybed3469
    @imissmybed3469 3 года назад +211

    Lawyer: “He doesn’t like pizza”
    News anchor: “That doesn’t explain how his DNA is on THAT pizza”
    Lawyer: “DNA is junk science”
    Who the hell let this guy practise law?

    • @superdongshinee1794
      @superdongshinee1794 3 года назад +10

      My thoughts exactly. As a forensics student I'm majorly annoyed 👿

    • @Gos1234567
      @Gos1234567 3 года назад +7

      He might be a flat earther when he comes out with that kind of nonsense

    • @jaymorgan8013
      @jaymorgan8013 3 года назад +6

      @@Gos1234567
      Probably a young earth creationist also.

    • @judithodonnell5759
      @judithodonnell5759 2 года назад +3

      I totally agree! Who gave that man a law licence?

    • @deletedwaffles
      @deletedwaffles 2 года назад +3

      @@judithodonnell5759 People who think just like him.

  • @twiztidjester3151
    @twiztidjester3151 4 года назад +358

    "No one holds a grudge for 11 years"
    *North Korea has entered the chat*

    • @RadhaSharma-yj1tw
      @RadhaSharma-yj1tw 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @nicheler2989
      @nicheler2989 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @GigiBrooklyns_Own
      @GigiBrooklyns_Own 3 года назад +1

      Hilarious 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @lvncr
      @lvncr 3 года назад +2

      This comment needs more likes

    • @reyasyaN
      @reyasyaN 3 года назад +1

      Bwahahahahahaha

  • @renn200
    @renn200 5 лет назад +132

    Damn. This is so tragic. All of this over 40 thousand dollars. RIP to this lovely family and their lovely housekeeper. Rest in piss creep.

    • @ae86hachi
      @ae86hachi 5 лет назад +8

      Life is cheap. Always has been, always will be. People rob and kill for far less. Nothing shocking here.

    • @ianmacfarlane1241
      @ianmacfarlane1241 5 лет назад +17

      @Renn Bear
      It's an appalling waste - committed by an absolute of shit.
      The killing of the family was entirely unnecessary - particularly in that manner.
      (Though I obviously don't condone home invasion & extortion)
      The guy could have held the family hostage before the Dad got home - got the Dad to do the cash drop and made good his escape without the Dad seeing him.
      The only witnesses to the crime would be the Mother, Son and Housekeeper, who I'm assuming wouldn't recognise the perp.
      It seemed to be either badly botched or he was planning on killing the entire family anyway.

    • @ianmacfarlane1241
      @ianmacfarlane1241 5 лет назад +14

      @@ae86hachi "Nothing shocking here".
      Have you lost your mind?
      You may not find the brutal murder of four innocent people "shocking", but the vast majority of people find it extremely shocking.
      If society ever becomes apathetic towards crimes of this nature we're all fucked - we'd be as well firing off the ICBMs now.
      This was an appalling crime - a child, two Mothers and a Father - by all accounts decent people - wiped out for less than the price of the (torched) getaway vehicle.
      I can't imagine what those 19 hours must have felt like - "shocking" is barely strong enough.

    • @Pantheragem
      @Pantheragem 5 лет назад +8

      @@ianmacfarlane1241 This sort of apathy is exactly what we're headed for sadly. I'm seeing it often with kids who are growing up staring at a screen, being fed horrible stories constantly. I'm so glad I grew up when I did.

    • @danndeelion
      @danndeelion 5 лет назад +2

      Most killers do it for free!

  • @annedenman3312
    @annedenman3312 3 года назад +11

    Oh, the horror. My heart goes out to the families who have lost their loved ones. 19 hours of Hell, who is that sick?

  • @Countrygirlwithasideofgangsta
    @Countrygirlwithasideofgangsta 5 лет назад +1897

    Who else just recently found this channel and has been binging for days? 😊

    • @neilshannon9930
      @neilshannon9930 5 лет назад +12

      Stephanie Walker....I am. He's pretty good hey.

    • @BradPitbull
      @BradPitbull 5 лет назад +20

      Can WE ALL AGREE....
      I LOVE FRENCH KISSING the FEMALE ANUS
      Have a blessed day

    • @chesseski7271
      @chesseski7271 5 лет назад +10

      @@BradPitbull thank you for saying what we were all thinking

    • @reddoguk7405
      @reddoguk7405 5 лет назад +9

      Snap right there with you. Wasn't sure at first but "its the way he tells em" ;)

    • @IDK-kv8ob
      @IDK-kv8ob 5 лет назад +2

      Penis

  • @dbensdrawinvids8390
    @dbensdrawinvids8390 5 лет назад +254

    "He doesn't like pizza pie; he's not the right guy."
    "DNA is a junk science."
    Brilliant defense. If I'm ever falsely accused of murder, I want THIS guy as my attorney.

    • @carlrs15
      @carlrs15 5 лет назад +2

      Robin Ficker is a vile presshound...doesn't surprise me that he'd say this

    • @desanson
      @desanson 4 года назад

      😂😂😂

    • @cl8onj388
      @cl8onj388 4 года назад +1

      This guy sounds like an SNL skit. He says the most ridiculous shit, like the girl you wish you hadn't started a conversation with at a party.

    • @Oz4rmEg
      @Oz4rmEg 4 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @rebeccapalmer9815
    @rebeccapalmer9815 5 лет назад +44

    love that interviewer - she was right on top of his bs answers!

    • @cjgem80
      @cjgem80 4 года назад

      Kimberly Guilfoyle. She's dating Donald Trump Jr.

    • @marjolewis9405
      @marjolewis9405 4 года назад

      Kimberly Guilfoyle is also an attorney.

  • @todd-2362
    @todd-2362 4 года назад +460

    I just think whenever a child is the victim of a violent crime the guilty party should never be treated with civility.

    • @nise5281
      @nise5281 4 года назад +10

      Yeah in 2020 pretty sure HE would be the victim!

    • @LIBRELINDALOCA
      @LIBRELINDALOCA 4 года назад +15

      nise 52 the people that the US police kills are innocent. If you cant see the difference between a guy who kills a family and a man who are ramdomly stopped, detained and fx chooked to death.

    • @death2theworld
      @death2theworld 4 года назад +5

      Ageism alive and well

    • @BloodwyrmWildheart
      @BloodwyrmWildheart 4 года назад +8

      @@death2theworld As evidenced by your response, apathetic stupidity is also alive and well.

    • @saraa1741
      @saraa1741 4 года назад +4

      @@death2theworld yes, Arina, all lives matter.

  • @CrityCrit
    @CrityCrit 2 года назад +2

    What a monster, all of that for 40k that’s legit not even that much for 4 human lives and especially a child. It’s wild when the case is so overwhelming and the defense attorney has to come up with something.

  • @sarahnightwing2936
    @sarahnightwing2936 5 лет назад +269

    😞 The sounds of the child screaming in the background of that phone call tho 😢

    • @primesspct2
      @primesspct2 4 года назад +5

      That was awful.

    • @Earthssilhouettes
      @Earthssilhouettes 4 года назад +5

      Thats what got me really angry

    • @soxpeewee
      @soxpeewee 4 года назад +2

      Dude sounded so calm during

    • @Katie5683sMal
      @Katie5683sMal 4 года назад

      Literally broke my heart and I couldn't even make out what he was saying

    • @j.c.9336
      @j.c.9336 2 месяца назад

      He sounded so scared and in pain, maybe from the torture 😢
      So sad. All he wanted was to live.

  • @arcyarcanine
    @arcyarcanine 4 года назад +128

    Savvas was a good looking man, damn.
    Vera trying to save them by wielding a bat, shows how much she cared for the people she worked for.

    • @w0mblemania
      @w0mblemania 4 года назад +6

      We have no idea what she was doing. She may have just been defending herself as she was hit with the bat.

    • @brittalex7024
      @brittalex7024 4 года назад +5

      Or she may have been forced to beat them or one of them :( like she was held at gun point, it’s a way to torture both her and who she is beating

    • @AJ-gn1qu
      @AJ-gn1qu 4 года назад +15

      @@brittalex7024 chill you watch too many movies

    • @hennylo68
      @hennylo68 4 года назад +8

      Yeah poor lady was brutally murdered for just trying to earn a living.

    • @godfreypigott
      @godfreypigott 3 года назад +2

      @@w0mblemania Or she may have been practising hitting curve balls.

  • @marleneg7794
    @marleneg7794 5 лет назад +410

    Whenever someone asks you to bring 40000 in cash anywhere and dont knock when u bring it. Call the cops

    • @tapsars7911
      @tapsars7911 5 лет назад +27

      I totally agree with you . Certain things should work as red flags .

    • @williss11
      @williss11 5 лет назад +23

      Yeah there where a lot of signs, it’s stupid no one did anything

    • @dennischen8887
      @dennischen8887 5 лет назад +6

      It's not that much though when you're rich. Some watches cost twice that or it could've been a down payment for a Lambo or whatever rich people buy these days

    • @RaeBattleRapsMood
      @RaeBattleRapsMood 5 лет назад +6

      Damn right! Somebody bringing me 40,000$ I'll be outside in a big bird costume with bells attached! Everyone around them are idiots!

    • @ms.artichokecheesepizzawst3239
      @ms.artichokecheesepizzawst3239 5 лет назад +2

      I agree , they are all unbelievably stupid. It could have been avoided.

  • @hotsoup1001
    @hotsoup1001 3 года назад +40

    That's a lot of people to control for that many hours and the whole plot was pretty carefully planned and researched. Whoever it was had the presence of mind to force the victim to call the security company to figure out where the video is stored, contact the husband of the maid to make sure she wouldn't be reported as missing that night, and arrange a story for the pizza guy for contactless delivery (long before this was common due to COVID-19). Maybe 1 person could have done it, but that's a lot of planning and work.

    • @Xpwnxage
      @Xpwnxage 2 года назад +2

      And yet he left his DNA on a half eaten slice of pizza

    • @themaltesepenny3504
      @themaltesepenny3504 2 года назад +1

      I know many people who knew the family and the whole thing was very suspicious. Many to this day speculate there was some sort of underworld revenge hit behind it. Why the CFO did not call police is very suspicious to me. I asked two of my husband's employees with bank account access what they would do if they got a call like that from my husband and both thought they would have been so suspicious they would have called police. Wish Vera's husband had called 911 just for a welfare check. After this and the Lululemon murders in nearby Bethesda I decided to always OVERREACT. Best to be on the safe side.

    • @susanelaine1644
      @susanelaine1644 8 месяцев назад

      they were found duct taped to chairs, and Savvas was found on the floor. They were stabbed, sliced, strangled, and hit with a bat. This was one evil SOB. May he suffer in prison. Watch the CNN special on this crime. It explains the facts in more detail.

  • @Sharksleep
    @Sharksleep 5 лет назад +559

    Dude's face looks like he hit random on character creation.

    • @kelyjavette8077
      @kelyjavette8077 5 лет назад +7

      Sharksleep On The Sims 2😅

    • @Gurubashy
      @Gurubashy 5 лет назад +41

      when you push all the "down" slides to the max

    • @tessfabled4115
      @tessfabled4115 5 лет назад +14

      I was thinking that too - he looks like his face started sliding off and got smooshed back on XD

    • @kellywalsh30
      @kellywalsh30 4 года назад +29

      usa girl he wont be stealing anything anymore the pos killed 4 people including stabbing a 10 year old child to death who gives a f*** about his manky body!!

    • @Hollow.Midnight
      @Hollow.Midnight 4 года назад +6

      @RogerRoo ! It's a fake account, trying to trigger people online.

  • @CroGamer002
    @CroGamer002 5 лет назад +783

    "DNA is a junk science"
    Now that's a hot take.

    • @zagonzal
      @zagonzal 5 лет назад +95

      @Ponder Yonder Nope. If it was just traces on shoes or something then yes I'd agree. But his DNA was directly on a slice of pizza that before it was delivered was sealed in a box. You'd have to be pretty naive to think somehow a man's DNA got onto a bitten slice of pizza that was ordered during the time of the family being held hostage. and not think he wasn't some degree of guilty. Transfer DNA is real yes, but it certainly doesn't apply here.

    • @Quixotic311
      @Quixotic311 5 лет назад +14

      I lost my shit for a second, I'll be honest

    • @jadedx6399
      @jadedx6399 5 лет назад +7

      How did you go back in time to make this post?

    • @MrKoyama2004
      @MrKoyama2004 5 лет назад +5

      I don't like DNA, I tried it once, didn't like it.

    • @ViviSectia
      @ViviSectia 5 лет назад +2

      @Ponder Yonder It probably wasn't something he wasn't aware of when he called it a junk science but the reliability of the DNA can also be questionable. Under ideal conditions it's very reliable but in less than ideal cases like most crime scenes, the DNA can have a chance to break down and they may not be able to get a complete sample. DNA sequencing works by matching a handful of parts of the of the suspect's DNA and the DNA found at the crime scene instead of the whole thing. When the DNA is incomplete the reliability considerably decreases. It probably wasn't an issue for this case unless the pizza was in the fire.

  • @martinapersson151
    @martinapersson151 5 лет назад +159

    Everytime you say "I will see you in my next video" I'm like, I hope not because everyone in your videos are like . . . DEAD.

    • @jocelynhernandez4797
      @jocelynhernandez4797 5 лет назад +3

      Martina PERSSON 😂🤣

    • @rowynnecrowley1689
      @rowynnecrowley1689 5 лет назад +3

      And I'm like, "How? Are you gonna hack my non-existent webcam?"

    • @Saedraversealt
      @Saedraversealt 5 лет назад +2

      Or disappeared, or suffering something supernatural (apparently)

    • @alexmurtagh6757
      @alexmurtagh6757 5 лет назад

      I agree he spoilt the video

    • @cidb.212
      @cidb.212 5 лет назад +1

      Oh no! Is this like "The Ring"? I knew I'd eventually pay for watching all this morbid shit:(

  • @wawaelias8842
    @wawaelias8842 3 года назад +6

    I remember this, that gave him a chance when other people were saying to get rid of him that family said " no he needs work just like we all do " that's truly sad they tried to help him and he took advantage of their kindness

  • @waltersmommy
    @waltersmommy 5 лет назад +101

    This is awful!! I wish people had done something with all the red flags all over! Drop off $40,000 on the porch cmon now

    • @bobharmon8834
      @bobharmon8834 4 года назад +1

      Katie Wood they are millionaires, 40k is like me asking my cousin to drop me in that hundred bucks he owes. No warning signs here.

    • @Sassyglbeauty
      @Sassyglbeauty 4 года назад

      Katie Wood yes!

    • @Sassyglbeauty
      @Sassyglbeauty 4 года назад +3

      Bob Harmon BS. This is NOT a normal request.... I’ve heard that if police pull you over with thousands of dollars, they can seize the money.... my question would be why can’t he do this? Idk i would be super sketched out by this request.

  • @cdcaterham
    @cdcaterham 5 лет назад +74

    Anyone who doesn't like pizza is immediately guilty. End of.

  • @tiffanygreen7115
    @tiffanygreen7115 4 года назад +119

    This poor family and their housekeeper must have gone through so much horror before they were ultimately killed. As a mother myself I can't even imagine how helpless and terrified the parents must have felt for their son in those 18 hours. It truly is a parents worst nightmare come to life.

    • @debbied9501
      @debbied9501 3 года назад +3

      Agreed. I could not even imagine the horror 😢

    • @mom2babygkaterad946
      @mom2babygkaterad946 3 года назад +1

      It is. This disgusts me so much! They didn’t deserve this.

  • @zahappy4004
    @zahappy4004 2 года назад

    Mike with you just being your witty funny sarcastic self, you make me feel so much more comfortable with my wit, humor and sarcasm. Thanks for helping us all feel welcome. Your awesome!

  • @snowbeast4463
    @snowbeast4463 5 лет назад +76

    'His mother doesn't like pizza. His sister doesn't like pizza.'
    Oh, I guess he's innocent then.

    • @Menagerie_K
      @Menagerie_K 5 лет назад +1

      Jessica Wood do you like pizza? If so, you’ve just become a suspect.

    • @snowbeast4463
      @snowbeast4463 5 лет назад +1

      @@Menagerie_K Oh shit, I guess I'll have to give myself up.

    • @waltersmommy
      @waltersmommy 5 лет назад

      Jessica turn yourself in 😞

    • @brianv3ntura
      @brianv3ntura 5 лет назад

      Attorney also said his brothers doesnt like pizza...but part of his defense team/plan is saying his brothers did it.

  • @merncat75
    @merncat75 5 лет назад +22

    @5:00 - to know that was their 10 year old son screaming is absolutely heartbreaking!!!

  • @RoosterStone
    @RoosterStone 4 года назад +62

    I think 60 minutes is jealous of you Mike, every single time I just let your video end it tries to take me to a 60 minute video, even unsubscribed from them. Still takes me to 60 Minutes. You're doing a good job, keep it up. (love to see you cover Noel Winters)

  • @roastedmarshmallows4859
    @roastedmarshmallows4859 3 года назад +15

    My jaw dropped for a sec b/c at 15:44 I thought the lawyer was gonna say “I’ll bet you have someone else’s DNA in you...” lol

    • @despicabledavidshort3806
      @despicabledavidshort3806 2 года назад +1

      Lol, I thought the same. She would have climbed through that screen and taken him out

    • @susanelaine1644
      @susanelaine1644 8 месяцев назад

      and defense attorneys wonder why most of them are despised.

  • @starrwilson6818
    @starrwilson6818 5 лет назад +174

    Is it bad that seeing a notice from you about murder makes me smile?

    • @ThatChapter
      @ThatChapter  5 лет назад +24

      Nah... I doubt it..

    • @starrwilson6818
      @starrwilson6818 5 лет назад +2

      That Chapter Oh good.😊

    • @brettwilson359
      @brettwilson359 5 лет назад +3

      Normally it would be horrible to enjoy such things. In this case....well....

    • @Big_Tex
      @Big_Tex 5 лет назад +3

      Hey the murder happened whether you smile or not, so might as well smile.

    • @andreamiles9
      @andreamiles9 5 лет назад +2

      Not bad at all. I do the same :)

  • @Harhaiah
    @Harhaiah 5 лет назад +1825

    I don't trust people who don't like pizza

    • @brettwilson359
      @brettwilson359 5 лет назад +36

      I don't like people who don't trust people who don't like pizza.

    • @anthonysheriff5499
      @anthonysheriff5499 5 лет назад +44

      I don’t trust people who don’t like people who don’t trust people who don’t like pizza

    • @Harhaiah
      @Harhaiah 5 лет назад +50

      Anthony Sheriff I don't trust pizzas who don't like people.

    • @maureenseel118
      @maureenseel118 5 лет назад +6

      Seems your intuition is right.

    • @dr.curious5136
      @dr.curious5136 5 лет назад +27

      This is ..... fucking truth ...... you don’t like pizza , you are not human

  • @TeaganJustice
    @TeaganJustice 5 лет назад +156

    You’re spoiling us Mike.

  • @lexiaaforever437
    @lexiaaforever437 2 года назад +16

    Poor Ms Vera . All she did was work hard for this family . Yet in her last moments she tried to defend herself & The family . It’s sad she had to have her life cut short when she had a family .

  • @hopeworldgirl218
    @hopeworldgirl218 4 года назад +75

    I'm proud of that journalist, she didn't let the defense attorney spew his nonsense 👌🏻

    • @murray8958
      @murray8958 3 года назад +3

      she's actually a lawyer too...

    • @srilaura
      @srilaura 3 года назад +2

      kimberly guilfoyle

    • @KSakamoto
      @KSakamoto 3 года назад +1

      That’s true, but I have no idea how she ignored his comment “DNA is junk science.”

  • @tedstriker3047
    @tedstriker3047 5 лет назад +246

    You’ve replaced forensic files as my go to watch. You need a Netflix deal. I’d love to see what you could do with a bigger budget.

  • @Blakbox92
    @Blakbox92 5 лет назад +132

    "It's a *British speaking* country in South America, it's the only one, it's sparsely populated (...) about the size of Kansas"
    This sounds like the world's worst geography presentation from an eight year old.

    • @MsSonali1980
      @MsSonali1980 4 года назад +2

      @a Supernova And his dumb aggressive manner doing that.

    • @laceyleighlovell2967
      @laceyleighlovell2967 4 года назад

      Right? I mean im not claiming to know much about anywhere that's not a place I've lived in. I don't even know much about other states in my own country and that still sounded sus to me.

  • @rotarydude9737
    @rotarydude9737 3 месяца назад +1

    5:56 Holy crap, they had a Mosler?! Miss seeing those in games.

  • @idareyou6036
    @idareyou6036 5 лет назад +74

    This is so hard to watch,,, I can’t even believe this, someone working to better his life n another one just swipes everything. If u broke go look for a job.. damn it

    • @vdussaut9182
      @vdussaut9182 5 лет назад +10

      Amen. The level of evil required to conclude that it would be worth it to murder 4 innocent people, including a little boy, for about a year’s meager salary is just beyond comprehension.

  • @luvslagos
    @luvslagos 4 года назад +156

    This story is heartbreaking. Four lives lost in the most terrifying way, all for $40,000. That defense lawyer is a despicable human being. 👹 I know his job is to offer legal services, even for the most seemingly guilty. However, coming up with those ridiculous defense theories is downright disgusting and insulting to the memories of the Savopoulos family.

    • @thinkforyourself2109
      @thinkforyourself2109 4 года назад +10

      I wonder if he's covertly doing his bit to actually convict the murdererr by coming up with a stupid defense?

    • @PlsWaLuigiDomMe
      @PlsWaLuigiDomMe 4 года назад +6

      Defense attorneys are not supposed to "come up with a defense" they are made to argue the prosecution's case and find logic in the accused story. =Usually they just fine tune what the accused is saying so it is possible this dude the pizza thing was something the killer came up with. On the other hand I also he also may have been an attorney wanting to make a name for himself defending this guy pro-bono and making that defense up himself a la Casey Antony's lawyer

    • @justinmartin4662
      @justinmartin4662 3 года назад +7

      Of course they are supposed to come up with a defense, that is the majority of their job. Building alibis, character witnesses, reviewing previous cases, all part of building a defense. If the defendant wants to fight and saying it’s not his dna on the pizza because he doesn’t eat pizza is the best you’ve got, you go with it.
      For all you know behind the scenes he’s begging the guy to plead out to no avail.

    • @SupportMensMentalHealth
      @SupportMensMentalHealth 3 года назад +3

      If you cant think of any other reason but he doesnt like pizza as a defence then you obviously cant find anything that can really prove his innocence. Grasping at breadsticks for this to be the best he can come up with

    • @Baratheon.
      @Baratheon. 3 года назад

      by "offer legal services" you mean fabricate falsehoods to try get killers off scott-free? then yes
      once a person gets away with horrific crimes such as murder it emboldens them to do it again

  • @katherinetrejo9854
    @katherinetrejo9854 4 года назад +139

    Whenever someone from El Salvador dies, my heart always hurts more because my family is from El Salvador, and I can always picture how hard they must have worked to survive in this country, just to have their lives taken in such a cruel manner. Descansa en paz, Vera

    • @kurtcarson8911
      @kurtcarson8911 4 года назад +3

      I hope you are writing this from El Salvador

    • @piranha5506
      @piranha5506 4 года назад +10

      @@kurtcarson8911 You are a small immoral person. Whichever country you’re from is disgraced by your existence.

    • @osyasa6255
      @osyasa6255 4 года назад +3

      This woman probably was the only breadwinner for her family 😢

    • @bulmarorubio2545
      @bulmarorubio2545 4 года назад +1

      Shut yo bitch ass up

    • @__yklim
      @__yklim 4 года назад +4

      @@bulmarorubio2545 chill out lmao

  • @joshmattingly8056
    @joshmattingly8056 3 года назад +1

    I legitimately didn't even hear the screaming in the background...that's horrifying. He's just calmly blurbing out his script while Lord knows what is happening just feet away... *Shudder*

  • @morevallejos
    @morevallejos 4 года назад +132

    “He is from Guyana, there’s no pizza there” where does this man think they live? The f-ing sahara dessert? Geez

    • @peggypeggy4137
      @peggypeggy4137 3 года назад +5

      Your comment made me laugh, so I had to google this. They eat Pizza Hut and Domino's, among others. Tell you the truth, I would be more interested in eating from the real, local restaurants.

    • @-danR
      @-danR 2 года назад

      I had to Google it. "pizza", region: Guyana
      The capital is _ridden_ with pizza places. I wonder if they eat anything _else._

  • @TheGavrael
    @TheGavrael 4 года назад +56

    Most awkward transition audio ever. "He doesn't like pizza; that is not his food choice." That's the kind of guy who makes you think "I could probably be a lawyer."

  • @emmabbyreborns341
    @emmabbyreborns341 4 года назад +303

    So many missed opportunities to save this family because everyone chose to ignore the red flags.

    • @Tracymmo
      @Tracymmo 4 года назад +64

      No one expects something like that to be happening, especially in such a safe area.

    • @emmabbyreborns341
      @emmabbyreborns341 4 года назад +32

      @@Tracymmo true. Hindsight is 20/20. It's just so sad. If one person, just one had been suspicious enough, well...

    • @Chun-believable
      @Chun-believable 4 года назад +41

      @@emmabbyreborns341 It pains me to say that there’s no guarantee that he wouldn’t have killed that family on the spot out of either panic or rage if he had been confronted by law enforcement during the ordeal.

    • @thebeasters
      @thebeasters 3 года назад +5

      Why not just leave a note for the pizza guy to call swat

    • @thebeasters
      @thebeasters 3 года назад

      @@Chun-believable could of at least saved some of them

  • @marcellepesek3038
    @marcellepesek3038 3 года назад +3

    Hi, Mike, I've marathon-watched your videos for hours now, after seeing the one about the two teen girls who killed their best friend, this just knocked me over the head! How can so many coldblooded murders, by or against children, children against parents, parents vs children or spouses be going on?? Such a lust for blood and lack of feeling over heinous acts of cruelty? The poor family, the little boy, the housekeeper, as well as the spouse & family members' loss.....it leaves you numb! When people have a history of assaults, theft, etc., why do they keep getting bounced into society again? How many warnings do we need before we see the red flags? Do we give really adequate rehab right after someone begins at an early age to commit crimes? Does it work? The Internet has many wonderful applications, but I am shocked about the kind of information that even children can access. Life is precious, and it's about time we appreciated that. We could really use great role models, as we copy what we see. Hollywood could help a lot by putting out more quality films. One final question on this case: if I understood correctly that the family's dogs were in the house, did the poor creatures die in the fire? To all who suffered and perished: RIP, I send you my love, and wish strength to those who are left behind with perennial heartache now. Let's all try to be kinder to each other. Please!

  • @ladonamariposavigilis6447
    @ladonamariposavigilis6447 5 лет назад +49

    His eyes are small, beady and unevenly spaced, and the court sketch artist totally depicts it!

  • @DarkAngel-qy9oi
    @DarkAngel-qy9oi 5 лет назад +204

    Who else looks forward to the ‘Hey you’

    • @DarkAngel-qy9oi
      @DarkAngel-qy9oi 5 лет назад +1

      Dilly Dally same

    • @saintmichael1603
      @saintmichael1603 5 лет назад +1

      Lol I really do

    • @joprent6727
      @joprent6727 5 лет назад +1

      Me . Lol

    • @simplyramona8678
      @simplyramona8678 5 лет назад +3

      "Terty 🌳" is also a favorite. Love your style Mike❤

    • @WyattRyeSway
      @WyattRyeSway 5 лет назад +1

      🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @JustLuckyDucky
    @JustLuckyDucky 4 года назад +16

    This video appeared randomly in my feed and little did I know what a rabbit hole I had fallen into. I'm pretty sure I've binged all your vids by now and now I have an addiction I can't shake. I can't wait to see what other stories you cover in the future :)

  • @hyun6587
    @hyun6587 3 года назад +64

    Wow, they kept referring to Vera as "the maid" and didn't bother to show a picture of her after showing pictures of each deceased family member, smh.

    • @joshmattingly8056
      @joshmattingly8056 3 года назад +10

      Noticed that myself. How is it Mike is more respectful to this mother, wife, friend, sister than the entire justice system and news agencies??? God bless, Mike. For giving these people dignity and respect.

    • @WyldeFyres
      @WyldeFyres 2 года назад +2

      Same reason they actually caught the dude so fast. If Joe Schmo and his family were murdered like this I bet you wouldn't have detectives running DNA tests on pizza. But the rich looks after their own.
      Not condoning the murder at all, btw, but it's sad that so often normal people don't get justice just because the law doesn't put in as much effort

  • @jadedx6399
    @jadedx6399 5 лет назад +149

    That defense lawyer looks like he’s been holding in his shit from a week ago.

    • @ae86hachi
      @ae86hachi 5 лет назад +4

      It's a cucumber.

    • @vanessaisamango
      @vanessaisamango 5 лет назад

      Lol

    • @katiemilady4232
      @katiemilady4232 5 лет назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍

    • @jaynedavis4667
      @jaynedavis4667 5 лет назад +4

      Nothing more pathetic than a defence lawyer with no bloody defence.

    • @jadedx6399
      @jadedx6399 5 лет назад

      Jayne Davis tell that to the prosecutor. I’m sure they had a blast

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 5 лет назад +8

    I think if Jordan was truly involved, Darin would have given him up right away. He tried to blame his own brothers after all. What a terrible case.
    Thanks for the upload!

  • @HelloItsYou
    @HelloItsYou 4 года назад +43

    i wonder what the screaming translated too in that voicemail, almost sounds like it was the little boy yelling something.

    • @annwithaplan9766
      @annwithaplan9766 4 года назад +1

      HelloltsVictoria - Sounded like he was yelling "I don't want to".

  • @xxCrazyIzzyxx
    @xxCrazyIzzyxx 3 года назад +14

    "DNA is a junk science..."
    Literally every face palm gif ever.

  • @monicdavis6150
    @monicdavis6150 5 лет назад +65

    When I first heard this story it was unbelievable how heartless and evil these guys were.
    Heartbreaking 😔

    • @sarahnightwing2936
      @sarahnightwing2936 5 лет назад +6

      Same...😞...
      F*kn TERRIFYING how many Crazy-Psycho-Evil people there are in the world and the heartless-sociopathic-psychologic crap they do to innocent people... Sometimes with no other motive than for their own entertainment. 😡
      SO DAMN SCARY!

    • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
      @AllenFreemanMediaGuru 4 года назад +14

      These guys? Only one guy had his DNA all over the place.