Prime Tracy McGrady vs Kobe Bryant Duel 2004.03.15 - T-Mac with 37 Pts, CLUTCH Kobe With 38 Pts!
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these two guys in their prime would murder teams today
They would put belt to ass IMMEDIATELY!
T-Mac and Kobe going head to head was my favorite to watch
kobe vs any prolific scorer was my favorite, watching him dual t-mac, arenas, ray allen, VC, MJ, Wade, Lebron, Melo list goes on idk if i have a favorite i do know he takes rudy gay to school on a seasonal basis lmao...but to say a fave idk. Id say ray allen they sure liked challenging each other to see how many 3s they could make in a game/quarter lmao.
division100
i loved it when they went head to head because Tmac would prove all the kobe fans wrong
tony lewis
kobe fans never want to admit the truth. everyone acts like kobe won all his champs on his own. that's not true at all, except for 2002 he won that champ fair and square...cough
this is what really went down. this is the story the mass media don't want you to know because they got to sell the product.
kobe never won a champ without a allstar center, Phil Jackson, AND Jerry West pulling all the levers behind the curtains Wizard of Oz style. take any of these out of the equation and he doesn't even get out of the first round, don't believe me do your homework
with the lakers dealing with post Kareem and Magic show times lakers dynasty
Jerry "The Logo" West was able to talk Shaquille O'neal into leaving The Orlando Magic and trade for Kobe Bryant to be his wingman and left the lakers Mitch kupcake in good hands. Kobe who was going to be no one's wing man runs off shaq (squeakiest wheel gets the oil) and sounded like your typical bitch after a bad breakup
Kobe-"I'm independent"
next three years he doesn't even get out of the first Rd. We get to see what kobe really was, a high volume scorer hell bent on catching Michael Jordan. Then he demands trade to Clippers in response The lakers (with my best straight face on) trade kwame brown, second round 48th draft pick, and 2 throw in to Memphis for a current allstar center in Pau Gasol. and who is the guy in the Memphis management that helped this lopped sided trade go through?
none other than Jerry "The Logo" West himself. the same guy who created the Shaq kobe duo. he had to fix the lakers fuck up by sending another allstar center to kobe rescue. luckily Memphis second round draft pick rights turned out pretty damn good in Marc Gasol.
"What they did in Memphis is beyond comprehension," said Popovich. "There should be a trade committee that can scratch all trades that make no sense. I just wish I had been on a trade committee that oversees NBA trades. I'd like to elect myself to that committee. I would have voted no to the L.A. trade."- Gregg Popovich
Now Jerry West is with the Golden State Warriors and played a key role in getting Kevin Durant to sellout and leave OKC which I disagree with but is at the same time sweet justice to me because Oklahoma had no business stealing a franchise from Seattle to begin with. suck it okc yall stole a legend franchise and lost two franchise players in James Harden and Kevin Durant. karma
Kobe had help with his champ...lots of help. and anyone who is in denial about the truth and think ignorance is bliss be careful because ignorance can turn into arrogance very easily
kobe wasnt even consider the best sg until Michael Jordan retired and Tracy Mcgrady got hurt
you'll count EVERY YEAR tmac didn't advanced regardless of roster or if he was hurt or wasn't even playing at all so it's only fair to give kobe the same treatment. unless he's God and can walk on water. so that's 5 years (05',06',07',15',16',) that kobe couldn't carry the team solo like Tmac. he didn't even make the playoff 3 out of 5 season. hardcore tmac basher-"tmac didn't get out of the first rd hahahahahah." and neither did kobe...when he did make the playoff.
"well uhhh kobe has more rings"
news flash
champs/rings is awarded to the best TEAM not the best individual
Kobe Shaq Pau and co. never had career effecting or career ending injuries like Tmac Yao Ming and Grant Hill
***2001-2008 playoff stats***
kobe: 28.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.3 apg, 43.4 mpg, 45-33-81%, 22.6 FGA, 8.3 FTA, **22.5 PER**, 31.1 usage
tmac: 29.5 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 6.5 apg, 42.6 mpg, 43-30-75%, 24.5 FGA, 9.1 FTA, **25.4 PER**, 35.3 usage
***tmac and kobe best single season***
03 T-Mac: 32.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 39.4 mpg, 46-39-79%, 2.5 stocks, **30.3 PER**, 16.1 WS
’06 Kobe: 35.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 4.5 apg, 41.0 mpg, 45-35-85%, 2.2 stocks, **28.0 PER**, 15.3 WS
I bet you didnt know that Kobe career regular-playoff stat actually drops and its Tmac and Mj who steps it up and plays better in the playoff
tony lewis
heart?
thats the best you can do?
Amen duderino!
Tmac is one of those rare legends you hear about how great he was or could have been provided no injuries, that never got to win a championship.
Have his raps and magic jerseys hanging in my closet today. My top 3 no doubt for that or todays era. I think he was stoned the whole time as well which makes it even more amazing XD
Tracy McGrady did pretty good to be going against 4 hof's!
Dub Brown Amen
That's because T-Mac is better than all of them. Kobe was never all-around as good. If he had his health, he'd be one of the greatest ever.
tmac didn't not play as good as d don't remember him on first team d
Joe Henson TMac is not better than Shaq
Joe Henson Show me how many All NBA or All NBA Defensive teams T-Mac made as opposed to Kobe...T-Mac didn't play defense and had no killer instinct...dumbest comment award goes to you 😂😂😂
T_MAC was so under rated, I think he was one of the best.
He's rated
T mcgrady used to give the whole league the business
Whaaat!!!
I believe this was the game kobes now mentioned that with all the drama of his rape case his wife had thrown him out that morning or sum and he says he was just out of it in the furst half. Then at halftime he said to himself something like "you know what fuck it, no matter whats going on around me i have to control the only thing i can control and thats basketball. So he comes out and drops 24 in the 4th. Mamba
I don't if I ever heard Kobe himself disclose that story himself but Ramona Shelbourne who covers told this story on "The Jump" on ESPN a few months ago. His mindset is crazy tho.
My idol man pure will power confidence and determination.
And he did it with a fucked up shoulder, one of the best players to ever play the game.
But isn't he with Vanessa now anyway?
Sarken Kobes bank account is really nice, so Vanessa forgave him and gave him another chance
Top 5 favorite Kobe game. By this time we already knew he was a different animal... but was still astonishing to witness.
McGrady had perfect body for basketball..long arms, big hands and slim legs...
ayye boy.. 😂😂 "He had a perfect body " what type time you on..?? You Gip lol
LMAOO
Chan Ho absolutely right!
with tons of injuries. I'd say Jordan, or even Vince in his prime has better body build
perfect body for injuries. He was not great. Great is playing a long career with no career stooping injuries
Tmac’s passing ability is so underrated
This was my favorite Kobe game at this time Tracy was a scoring machine lighting the Lakers up at halftime Tracy had 21 pts,Kobe 1 pt,then in second half Kobe got hot himself finished with 38 pts,to Tmac 37 pts. Kobe was a better defender,a year older and one of the few who could match Tmac in scoring. He stood up to Tmac in this game and won admirable . I remember this game very well some 16 yrs ago now.
Kobe only won this game cuz of Shaq being his teammate. T-Mac had no one.
@@kermit1 Kobe fan but he got away with alot in this game him and Shaq was fouling the crap out of Mcgrady and he wasn't getting those calls
@@kermit1excuses the gm should've got him some help
The gm was a dude that was formerly employed for a hockey team,john weisbrod.hes like one of the worst gms in history.
One of my all-time fave games by the Mamba! you could tell how uncomfortable he was using that injured right thru out the game.. but when the 4th quarter came it didnt matter.. lights out!
Just as a reminder to people who are not aware. This is the game where Kobe was depressed and didn't want to be in it. All his thoughts was that he was about to lose everything (his wife/family, might go to jail) because of the trial regarding rape while he was in Colorado. Take notice at how one of Kobe's arms is wrapped up too. This is because he just got a tatoo for his wife. At one point during the half time break, he concluded after all thoughts that, he has no control over what will happen to his life. but he knew he at least had control of one thing, "basketball". So he unleashed The Black Mamba (This is the game where the black mamba was born). 1pt first half of game, finished the game with 38 pts.
smh this shit shows how great he is, nigga kobe defends n then drops clutch basket after clutch basket, you are missed by real nba fans, my favorite player of all time #respect
agreed
Ur TheDuke exactly
If that shot was just 0.2 sec earlier, damn
word
it's now late if you watch it frame by frame.
i dont know it looks good to me to be honest..if the replay system was then (which im glad it wasnt) ,, it might have counted.
Stefan Papdi it look like he got it but
The Kobe hate is so unreal. People love to overrate the non media hyped player. Yes he was great, he close to Kobe offensively(at his peak) but he was never truly on Kobes level. Even after what Kobe did to him in the 4th quarter of this game they are just sweeping it under the rug lol! Even in there head to heads Tracy only won 7 of there 21 matchups and outscored him in 2 of there 21 matchups. Oh and also got cooked when they played one on one, wasn't even close. The delusion and denial lol!
Even Kobe know. Tracy Mcgrady was his greatest competition. My 2 favorite SG's after Jordan.
Tmac was a sf
I got Kobe over Jordan.. Kobe & T-Mac played against tougher Guards in there era.
@@Darius_Icewood bro no
Man Kobe and t-mac had some good ass battles,man I'm gone miss the Goat😔🐍✊🏾
"You know what the difference between me and him (T-Mac) is? He's done. I'm just getting started." Mike Miller (as told by Shane Battier)
REST IN PEACE MAMBA 💛💜💛
I think we never really saw the prime of T-mac, he was still so young here.
The prime of a SG-SF is 26-28, by then T-mac already had so much injuries.. =(
tracy didn't have any injuries at that time. he was In his prime.
Brah he averaged 32ppg one year. We definitely saw his prime
@@beattheodds6219 that's true, but what if he reached 26-28 years old like Kobe without any major injuries.
@@kimiantumblod7654 yea by the time he turned 28 his prime was done with unfortunately. He did have a good run though
@@beattheodds6219 yeah he did! He awesome to watch. =)
imagine if Tmac stay in magic, and then Dwight Howard come by no.1 draft pick, i think that would be nice duo in NBA at that time...
The year Pistons beat the Lakers in 04...priceless
Kobe was, what Tracy could've been
not sure
Mac had score pass priority
defense was passing lane steals and blocks
all around Kobe is better
I still like Mac better tho
Tmac had very little defensive skills and work ethic. Kobe works hard. The only thing on Kobes mind is basketball. Can't say the same for tmac
Well, you see how hard Mac has to work on rehabilitation coming off every injury and I could say that the boy could have given up much earlier than he did, but he made it all the way to 2013 playing the game he loves. So really- I don't know if it's fair to bash Tmac for his work ethic man.
NBASFAN + you must be a kobe fan im both tmac had a complete game everyone knows he could score, he was a willing passer and a underrated one, he grab boards and he had DEFENSE. Around this time in his career he joined MJ as the best blocking shooting gaurds now and thats one on one D not blocking shots from behind shit now Dwade pass both of them so his over all game was better especially since kobe played in a system the triangle which his job was to score and defense not grab boards and pass because he had others around to do that MAC had to do much more work and injuries and lack of help kept him from being more than what he gave not work ethic just like penny Hardaway, every nba player say you need luck in nba when it comes to injuries
anonymouse1969 Tracy had to hold up his team all game, Kobe had the help of 3 other hall of famers to carry the scoring load so he could blow up in the 4th quarter.
First season since the allegation. Coming home from an away game. Kicked out, all clothes thrown into the street by his wife right before this game. Had only a motorcycle at the time, so he had to leave his stuff in the street. Scored 1 point in the first half, and the Lakers were getting beaten. T-Mac recalled him being not "not as aggressive" During halftime, he said to himself:"you may lose everything in life because of the situation you put yourself in, but I'll be damned if I lose basketball because this s I can control." Took over the game in the second half. "After the game, I go back to the house and pick all my s up. I take my motorcycle and go to a motel." His personality splitted in two after that night: Kobe and the Black Mamba.
2 greats battling but Kobe got the edge of course in the end. He had that eye of the tiger killer instinct just like M.J.
He had Shaq too..
what seperates kobe from mcgrady is in plain sight in this video...and it isn't the offense..look at kobe intensity od defense while defending him..ppl always forget kobe multiple all nba defensive team beast on both ends thats what makes kobe great..he always defended the best offensive guard every night any team ..not many could say that
Tom Ellis all ways
No offense to Kobe, hes obviously at least as talented as T-Mac but you're ignoring context here. Look at T-Mac's team..look at Kobe's..who do you think can expend energy on the defensive end and rely on his teammates on the offensive end?
Ur TheDuke This what I been trying to tell people lol. Tmac was average on defense because he was Orlandos offense. Even in the video it says they run everything through him.
Actually, it is his offense. Look the difference in ball handling ability, footwork, post game, passing (precision and pure skill and ability), etc. T-Mac was definitely a talented scorer but his game was nowhere near as well-developed as Kobe's. Kobe could literally do any and everything on the court at an elite level.
William King Tmacs offensive game is something no one has ever seen before. Like Kobe said he was 6'9 that moved as if he was 6'3 and could do anything score, defend, playmake and rebound. This from Kobes mouth. There were very few players in the 00s era that were able to contain Tmac. Actually I read up on espn that back in 04 no one showed the ability to check Tmac on several nights but KG. It says something when they both call eachother their toughest to face. They were almost identical stat wise before Tmac got injured.
t mac and grant hill were unique when they were healthy
And Penny
I was born and raised in L.A and I've lives here all my life... Anyways I remember watching a game in the early 2000's between the Lakers and Orlando, it was a quarter finals game or something like that. I was a teen and me and my step dad were watching these 2 go at it. At one point we were even asking each other who was better between these 2. But at the end of the game we came to the conclusion the Kobe was better (better moves and a bit more athletic) but just the fact Mcgrady made us think about it says allot. This guy was really good and him and Kobe always went at it in there prime... Tmac 👌👍
Kobe in tmac battlè made boys step they game up as a kid watchin this made you wanna go outside in do everything they did omm😂 love them days
TMac was a force.....But my dawg Kobe wasnt gon be denied. RIP
Tmac made Juwan Howard look like an all-star at all times with the passes he threw his way man damn lol
One of the best duels ive seen in a longtime there's a select few and that was up there
Guards 2day would definitely get "abused" can't handle neither player its funny how T-Mac kept his Orlando Magic team inna game vs Kobe, Shaq, Malone, Payton, & da rest of da Lakers its just was one McGrady. Kobe n T-Mac shot making "ability is unmatched in today's "version" of da NBA No Bigmen Allowed
nonsense, this is ugly play. FOH
no team play. so slow paced, just iso iso iso iso then kick out or mow the opponent over to get to the basket. Move the damn ball to get an open shot.
they will LOSE LIKE SHIT in this generation.
KD is a greater scorer than Tmac and he couldnt get it done with a better team. Spurs 14' or GS '15 will beat both teams by 30 in 3 quarters. we aren't even gonna talk about GS '16.
+seunsan360 fr lmao this isn't the 2001 lakers anymore they would get killed. It's a reason why the Celtics beat them in 08. I would completely say this because the 2012 thunder were amazing amidst the clippers and Spurs moving the ball a lot.
+seunsan360 no team McGrady planned on was even half has good as any team Durant played for hell Texas was Betta than Orlando bought time he was onna rockets he was washed up and let's not talk about the 2016 "warriors" greatest choke artist of all time
Weebey Barksdale thats the point i am trying to make. KD is a greater scorer and on a better team than TMAC and still couldn't get it done against team oriented play.
Lebron James had one of the best teams ever and couldn't get it done against team oriented Dallas. In fact they changed to team-play the following year and killed KD and his Iso-heavy OKC in 2012.
all the other shit u were saying is just that.. shit. I wont indulge you.
seunsan360 Okc beat the spurs with their star power that same season. I think it was also because LeBron and wade were both able to match westbrook and durant in athleticism
Can't believe it's been 20yrs! My goodness I'm getting old
Like I said and will always say, Kobe is the GOAT!
And you'll always be dumb af for saying it. 🤡
More like a 1v4 for mcgrady yet still dominated
1 year since your passing today Kobe. Had to watch some of your film and pay my respects. We love and miss you down here
T Mac is nice, but Kobe is a BAD man.
Mike Hamilton look who kobe had around him comparing to tracy mcgrady t mac and kobe were on the same level but tmac being more explosive injuries mess him up
@@tipsylok7679 yeah
Kobe had 1 point in the first half then Kobe exploded for 37 in the second half. 24 of those came in the 4th quarter
that shot at the buzzer looked good
One of the best highlights video ever of Kobe… When the nba was the nba
The famous game Kobe became the black mamba, it was amazing , t-mac is awesome too
Imagine if he stuck around with the Magic until Dwight Howard was drafted..
The thumbnail made it look like this was going to be a high definition video
TMac was a beast in his prime!
Happy would had been 43rd birthday Kobe.
kobe look like god in the 4th quarter 😂😂
Ballin Too Foreal
Cringe ass
Tracy McGrady was real mannish in his prime. But I am a kobe fan black mamba all day everyday.
People that pick Kevin Durant vs prime T Mac must not have watched prime T Mac play. T Mac was an unguardable player that constantly had to get double teamed. He was basically a taller prime Kobe Bryant.
T mac my dude I use to watch him play in high school I knew he would be a great player and he kicked my ass at horse back in the day
I forgot about t-mac’s incredible range.
For all of you guys that are saying that TMac was better, no he wasn't. At this point in their careers i would have considered them equals at the most. Tmac was a little longer, had bigger hands, and could jump higher than Kobe. TMac also had his own team which means he could virtually do what he wanted. Kobe on the other hand played with Shaq, Payton, and Malone, and had to play within a system.
tmac was better and smarter
^ Tmac never even made it out of the first round.
***** you mean tmacs teams that he played for never make it out of the first round.
Anthony Rizzo I love T-Mac but no way in hell was he better than Kobe. I didn't think people were still trying to make that argument.
James Jackson
i know right
it shouldnt even be a argument
Tmac was way better
You'll never see players like this in 2019
BIG TRUE
SGA??
This 2003-2004 Laker team was actually the third SUPER team who had not two, not three but four HOF's. Then there was the 1999-2000 Portland Trailblazers with Pip. Smithie, Schrempt, Rasheed , Sabone and little mighty mouse Damen Stoudimire. Then there is the original SUPER team that also lost and didn't even make it to the finals and that is the 1998-1999 Houston Rockets With Pippen, Barkley, Olajuwon and then the 1995-1996 Houston Rockets with the previous HOF Trio o f Barkley, Olajuwon and Drexler who was the original SUPER team of the NBA. So now then we see that "SUPER" team status doesn't automatically mans the hardware and so it now remains to be seen with the 2016-2017 GSW. We shall see if they can actually seal the deal come mid to late June 2017.
True that
2010-11 Heat didn't win it either their first year. never forget
Malone and Payton were HOF type players in their prime but they were way past their prime when they were on the Lakers. Payton was 35 and Malone was 40. Same for the Houston and Portland teams where a lot of the players were past their prime already in their mid 30s. Miami and GSW core players were in their prime when they teamed up.
That's true.. but Lakers were still favored to win that year..... but heat and GSW have all players in their prime or about to hit their prime
Past prime hall of famers equals injuries. Equals not there in the finals.
We miss you Kobe💔😥
I love you Kobe
the nba should just release a series or something of all these legendary players versing each other, in high quality, they have these videos sitting there yet we all come back to watch these classic players in really poor quality videos
McGrady was foolish leaving Orlando right when Dwight Howard was about to arrive. They got to the finals in 09, probably woulda been there by 07 if he stayed there and stayed healthy while Dwight developed into a monster. The only thing Orlando was missing around Dwight was a great wing and both their careers would've went much better had tmac stayed put
I wish players would be patient
i heard about it in open court. tmac was frustrated. magic filled his team with bunch of rookie. he expect to play with grant hill but he got injured. theres nothing he can do. all he want is to get his to playoff.
Injury trouble. Yao and T-mac could have gone the distance without injury trouble. Dwight was to much of a pussy. Point proven when he played with Kobe.
Veronica Mcknight You see, I already knew you didn't know what you were talking about with those first 5 words.
Veronica Mcknight keep dreaming it was never happen
I miss both of them now.
My all time favorite kobe vs mcgrady game
T-Mac couldnt even get a shot up on two game winning possessions. Great D by GP.
Orlandos tactic was pass to mcgrady
I LOVE THIS DUDE....BIAS ASF...."IT WAS LATE NO QUESTION IT WAS LATE!!"
Kobe Bryant the greatest
Kobe had the better luck in his career, better drive, better intangibles, leadership, better defensively, while tmac is more gifted
Physically gifted, yes in terms length, height for court vision and leaping ability. More talented, no. Kobe had better footwork, better dexterity, better shooter, physically stronger. Mcgrady's easy looking super smooth silky aesthetics can be very deceiving.
I can see tmac had to go through malone shaq kobe to get to the rim how tired will he be
Mcgrady had to use more energy just to keep Orlando close. Even a top conditioned player will eventually get tired. Kobe could afford to sit back here, and there. The lakers had other guys that could score. Mcgrady was the Orlando Magic's whole team. Orlando's roster was full of bums when t mac was there🤣
This was like peak Basketball 🏀, not the nonsense we watch nowadays.
Tracy McGrady had a good game... but Kobe's desire to win was on full display as he came alive in the 4th quarter, no one did it better in crunch time than the Mamba himself. Kobe proved to be the better shooter & defender than T-Mac... not to mention, he was able to put on a show w/ an injured shoulder.
Tracy McGrady pertence ao estilo de jogadores como Julius Erving, George Gervin e também melhor de todos em todos os tempos: Michael Jordan.
T Mac is a beast a tougher version of kd
Agile,Tall,Quick can play D killer offensive arsenals
This game was 17 years ago today.
Kobe the GOAT
Best game Kobe ever played
Hello, i do not know if you still take requests or not. But can you make any penny Hardaway suns highlights? Maybe even the 31 point game he had against the lakers in the 2001 playoffs? Anything would be good
rest easy mamba
Im 6'2 born '93 I patterned my whole game after Mac up until D1 level then I started playing more like... Id say Rod Strick that might be a boost but in terms of moves. I went from an illusive loose perimeter handle with a deep 3 to a erky jerky handle, crafty PG anything within the mid range. Id say my height made me have to stray away from the deep 3s typa game cause I aint no steph but my shit use to splash with a lil tmac kick follow through guarantee 💯
37 points in the second half with one arm, his left arm I believe? Man.. the career numbers just don’t justify how great he was lol
What a game
This is special performance
9:01 incredible shot
The Creation of the Black mamba!
Damn tmac and Kobe was the real deal boy... Wish McGrady never got hurt and stuck with the process and had the will of Kobe, wish he played for svg and the magic with Howard
If T-mac Vince along with other players never left toronto, we would have won almost every year or every other year, Vince was the goat when it came to attacking the paint and dunking, tracy had the outside and inside shots and dunk, oakley had good rebounding skills would have been epic for toronto
they should review/replay in slowmo. tmacs buzzer beater shot. definitely counted.
Kobe was my favorite player 1#
Wow basketball at it's finest.
GRADYYYYYYY...Man he was a beast
kobe locked down tmac on the 2nd half
Tmac could've been among the greats. He just lacked defensive intensity and back problems shorten his career sadly.
T mac had such a Prue jump shot.
Kobe Bryant ✊🏿😞
REST IN PARADISE MAMBA🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
The birth of the black Mamba!
R.I.P to a goat🐐
look how many offensive rebounds shaq allowed them to get he was just a slow big fat marshmallow in the paint gary payton & karl malone were damn near 40 kobe the goat man he got his first points in the 3rd quarter & still scored higher than tmac
poor tmac! he's already tired in 4th quarter because no one in his team can manage to support him of all the stuffs he did unlike kobe had a lot of stars beside him that's why he can able to reserved his energy and going wild at the last quarter until in the OT like a beast.
Kobe's only weakness was his small hands.
Gotta love the commentator
T-mac had a sorry team... He needed help... But people say "he didn't win in the playoffs" still did his part in the playoffs tho
5:30 mark...... the defense turns up and the buckets come on!
The day black mamba was born.