a single game of the tearlament mirror
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The timer might unironically be the biggest counter to tears
Had a game just today where my loss was due to panic-activating Cryme in response to my own Sulliek that would have secured game at 8 seconds left. Also had another 2 games where I missed obvious Keldo and Mudora response windows that would have stopped big plays because 300 isn't nearly enough to do an average Tear turn alongside reading all the 10 cards milled from the opponent that turn.
True true
Not to mention the frame lag i had with my Laptop, it makes the time limit much harder to deal
“IHATEMAXXC”
1 turn in: Me and the bestie
33 minutes for a single game... and it's in a simulator! How did people play an entire match of this IRL?
eh, i played a bunch of tear ishizu irl, it went to time frequently but not every mirror game was like this. you get abyss dweller'd, or they use 3 bystials on your 3 names and it's a quick game.
It's actually a lot faster irl. Chain links are in general tbh.
...But yeah, round time was a real problem in Tear format. Tear decks would regularly play shit like Winter Cherries or Volcanic Scattershot just to pull cheesy wins by life point defecits in time.
games(in terms of actions taken, not time duration) was actually faster in the tcg because of bystials. Not only were they better dd crows but the wallow/beatrice access made closing out games a lot easier.
They either went to time out as well or Bystials made stuff a lot faster
Easy. You can play a lot faster mannualy than you can in a simulator
People asked for interaction and duels that are not overly short and end in two or three turns. Then Konami delivered.
I love how both players spent the first turn under Maxx C and just kept going
Tear really does not care about Maxx C. Just set up your board they're likely to be unable to break it anyway.
@@MaiaNetliss They don't? Okay. Activate dim fis. Sphere mode. Activate necrovaley. Set 2, pass. You turn. Woops, you got maxx c'd.
@Claire yes, wow congratulations. If you have all the cards you need to win the game then you'll win. Good job figuring out that strategy.
@@claire6452 Ah yes, the "just draw the out" with Maxx c
@@MaiaNetliss We are talking about unbreakable board through maxx C. "Wow, you have every card to win after you maxx C me and I decided to not respect it?Unbelievable" Yeah. I do. Because YOU gave them to me while boasting about "unbreakable board". Good job.
This format will have more wins by timeout than ever before
If you know how to play it 300 secs per turn +60 is more than enough.
@@zeo4481 in a tear mirror it’s really hard
Lmao this format running out of time is a win condition
Konami Employee: "So, cool idea: what if we make players play during _both_ players turns all the time"
Konami Supervisor: "That's brilliant. Now we just need to come up with a deck idea for that."
Konami Employee: "Yeah, we jus- wait, did you say *A* deck idea?"
I wish Master Duel had an exclusive trap card where you could pay half of your life points and consume 15 seconds of your opponents timer.
It's funny that it actually is a decent trade-off against combo, but only after they're in combat.
Because else they don't have to go even half as deep into their plays to get lethal on board, a lot of the time, if you pat half. As someone who plays speedroids (basically combo into an OTK or hope you didn't mismanage and can try again next turn), I'd know.
Dinomorphia support???
Sounds like a duel links skill
No,that was a thing in hearthstone and someone used it to skip opponents turn
@@thedootlord that's only possible because hearthstones stupid and lets the timer tick down while cards are still resolving.
ASMR Tearlament mirror match to put you to sleep
I want mbt to lick my ears
bUt tHe mIrRor MaTcH iS fUn aNd InTerACtIvE
@@mix9113 yes it is
It Is but that doesn't mean I don't think it's boring
A fellow golden sun enjoyer
They just need to make the game exactly like this with more than one viable archetype
FOR REAL, i'm happy playing tear mirrors but i get why people dislike the lack of variety, i just wish konami would learn from the things that went right with ishtear and apply that to other archetypes in a more balanced way
This exactly. I like the design concepts of tear, but releasing only a single deck that plays like this is a terrible decision.
@@nigamnation Tbf, that's always been the case with prototype decks. Like cyber dragon broke goat format and cyber dragon was basically the only thing worth playing But now cyber dragon's not even worth consideration. Basically, it takes a while for new archetypes to catch up to novel new playstyles when they get discovered.
They need to see if it works, why it works, make new thing that plays like what they just made, alongside with lore, art, and all kind of balancing stuff. HOPEFULLY they realize Tear is exactly the yugioh we want to play and can make more like it.
Hmmmm nah. People already hates having Floo playing on their turns and tears put that to a whole other level by playing on turn 0(you know the turn that you as the first player give their BP off for setting stuff up)
(near) Duea format? Shaddoll, Burning Abyss, Tellarknight, even Qli. Lot of recursion, few negates in favor of more destruction effects that made games more interactive and long trying to build more resources than your opponent. Of course, even than there were many problems card but you had a lot more options and the design of these decks was on point for me
I wouldn’t hate tear as much if it wasn’t THE ONLY thing able to keep up now. Now all my graveyard decks are just obsolete because everyone is playing either shufflers or GY hate..
Yeaaahhhhhh. That’s kinda me. I went from playing Zombies to Gravekeepers JUST to go against Tear.
@@bubbasgotback431 yeah see id love to be able to play drytron or my personal fave darklords but 1) I run into tear with easy access to shufflers and I get cooked or 2) everyone is playing stuff to beat tear, which happens to beat my deck also
@@reepi6250 That's a big reason that the TCG was in tear 0 format for so long, cause turns out a lot of rogue decks operate through the GY lol
Ishizu cards are the cause of this, not tear. Tear is a strong deck that is limited by the amount of mill support available, it should never have existed alongside cards that mill 5 more cards when milled. Add in the shufflers making every other deck unplayable and you get a tier 0 format.
@@luminous3558 Absolutely
As a MD player I finally understand MBT's perspective, as well as the general hate towards Tear. It's definitely a very interactive deck that doesn't rely heavily on negates or floodgates, but it just gets so much done each turn that if you aren't also playing Tear it's extremely frustrating to deal with. I can see why MBT would want more decks like this, but when it's the only one like this it's just way too much.
We all want more decks like this. The problem is exclusively that it's the only deck of its kind AND it has no lock of any kind. You aren't locked to Fusions, darks, Tears, or Aquas.
Just mill your entire deck and make the best cards in the game.
Tbf tear is a lot less crazy without the ishizu stuff. So as long as they ban those and never print them again its fine. Most of the "playing on both turns" comes from milling upwards of 10 cards off multiple millers which then descends into madness.
The ishizu cards are the sole problem here because the shufflers hold sole dominion over the grave and the millers provide infinite advantage outside of exactly the mirror.
Tear is not oppressive without the ishizus.
@@luminous3558 True. That's why it wasn't relevant in TCG until the Ishizu retrains. At worst you get to make Kitkallos by discarding due to a Danger. At best you get to discard from a Danger and mill off of Curious which puts up Rulkallos and threatens Kaleido-Heart on the opponent's turn while also having the ability to threaten board breakers like Dragostapellia and Triphyoverutum. Even in a worst case you can still make Dweller to interrupt other GY plays.
@@thorscape3879 what slot tears won a YCS before the shufflers
@@luminous3558 when I looked through a guide on what the tears do, they really did just seem like stronger Lightsworns. The Ishizu cards just let them hit all their mill effects for essentially free.
A shame konami refuses to release multiple decks like this at a time.
I'm already just so, so tired.
I just had my first match against pure tear with my Skull Servants in MD today. it was going pretty well until I forgot to toggle back to on and missed my Doomking trigger. the best part of that one was that they milled both Ishizu millers but chose not to activate them since they already knew my deck also wanted to mill and they had decent enough resources already.
I wish you luck, dude.
Although, you could probably make a very funny Tear build of Skull Servants. It would 100% be worse than pure tear, but the psychic damage you'd deal to your opponents would be massive.
You could run shit like zombie world + superpoly to deal with your opponents boards, and the tears can make dragonecro. Plus a tear and a servant natively makes mudragon and dragostapelia.
I played a few against tear with Skull Servants in the last few days. Not once did they read what skull servant stuff do. They could've won easily by shuffling my skull servant cards from gy, but they kept trying to shuffle their own stuff or things like dpe/mali/snow/mezuki, only to get punched in the face by a 10k+ king.
I can't play anymore Tearlament mirrors because my heart can't fucking take it. Low timers from thinking, getting my Kit stolen... I don't even hate dueling Tearlament that much I just can't take the mirror anymore man it makes my anxiety flare up so much lmao
Yeah, I've had timer problems before and this looks even more stressful.
i walked into this thinking it was 3 min oops
The main reason I don’t enjoy playing master duel is that long combos take FOREVER due to the animations, scrolling through display windows, etc. and playing a complicated deck means you’re almost always in time pressure.
I think every action (summoning a monster or activating an effect) you take should award you like 5 seconds or something. It doesn’t make any sense that someone can set 5 backrow and then sit on their hands for two minutes, but someone else who is improvising a combo line and playing through interaction is racing to click the end phase button.
This. The reason I cannot play it. It just takes too long. I dont have the patience to sit through 3 card effects taking 30 seconds to resolve not counting the scrolling and thinking the plays can take. When I can play something like omega, db, or edo and it only take 5-10 seconds for the same play.
I got so exhausted watching this and I'm not even the one playing
i've been learning tear this week and i personally felt every single exhausted sigh
Anyone else find it insulting that he only gotten 2400 points from that match?
Like FR, they should give a bonus for the amount of chain links, or cards shuffled into deck, or cards banished. Pretty bullshit.
You get the most points the shorter and more one sided the duel is, Wich is the completely wrong thing to reward.
@@Ragnarok540 This. Longer duels should reward more.
Won my 1st Tear Mirror.
2-3 months of this...
I don't feel so good...
banlists come out every month hun
You get better as you play and figure out interaction points. Winning a non-cheesed tear matchup is a step in the right direction
@@strangevol5264 No way they kill it first banlist after release. So it will stay top dog till they say... "Tears reigned long enough time to kill it"
Average bad player : ,,Tear is boring, I'm sleep."
Weakest Tear ENJOYER : ,,Haha mill go BRRRRRRRR! WE WIN TOGETHER BROTHER!"
Tear is boring, I'm sleep
Games like these are fuckin great but the fact that you go next then lose coin toss into stun turbo making the previous game completely null and void is just infuriating.
I'm really glad this deck made it to MD, I had only heard of it from TCG content but the mirror is so much fun
Tear format was so great. I miss it.
Shortest Tearlaments Mirror
unironically the tear mirror is some of the most fun ive had with shit game master duel in ages
Too bad everyone else quit because they can't play even shittier MD.
I really loved intense game!
I can't wait for people to ask for the decklist (they did not watch the first second of the video)
Goddamn. Guess I'm building Tear now, that looked cool as hell. I'm gonna lose to the timer so many times
The banlist would like to have a chat with your wallet.
@@grimdeth2197 I mean, my build is likely gonna be a budget version cause I'm not about to actually spend money on it. Helps that I've been saving up CP for ages for idk. But now I get to spend it on this
Don't worry. it happens to all of us, Just the proceess of getting good.
This deck brought back my enjoyment for playing Exosister. The mirror is fun, but exo almost makes Tear feel like every interaction is a pipe that starts leaking that you have to patch up. And for anyone having trouble with tear, the thing they don't tell you on yt is to ignore fusion 1 and hit 2 and 3. 1 is always just kit that's going to be a stepping stone for finding the other names. They don't do anything if you stop those.
I havent started the video
I just looked at the thumbnail, then into the title, then into the duration, and i laughed my fucking ass off for a few second
Good one
what a short and funny clip
Can't believe MBT tried to tell us that Tear is a fun mirror match and Tear 0 is a fun format.
I heckin love interactivity! :O
Fun mirror? Yeah, fun format? No unless you're playing exactly Tear
A format like this with actual variety would be actual peak Yugioh
@@azurabbit12 I do not enjoy playing tear
what’s not to enjoy? don’t you love playing for 25 minutes in the draw phase?
I'll never forget
I'm considering picking Chaos Lightsworn back up now that Tears are hitting the scene but I honestly don't know if that's a good idea or not
These things will probably be a good engine in them even if they get hit, the monsters that fuse from graveyard are all darks so you can potentially do some funny stuff.
@@MarioLopez-xs3vc I figured as much yeah, but even if your opponent pulls up with Tear-Ishizu, you /kinda/ benefit from any milling your opponent does with Merlii and whatnot
In theory at least, cause lord knows they're hitting every single shuffler turn 1
I mean, try it. That's how people found out Madolche actually plays well against Tear.
I did not know you could send dweller like that with sulliack. this is absolutely something I must know for this format
That was intense
Love this deck so much - I am sadly to bad but these duels especially the mirrors are so much fun to watch and even with misplays - play out myself.
Hope TCG can give tear some love... even tho you could still play the deck with some Keshtira cards
I miss this format 😂
It’s been 3 days of tear and I’m already over this format😂
This is why I play King of the Swamp so I can go into Caliga for the mirror matchups.
We're in for one of the formats ever
This is exactly how we felt Yugioh was like when we were kids watching Yami Yugi in the anime; in that regard, the design team peaked.
We must now get this level of playability on around 3 more archetypes, and we might finally reach the ultimate Yugioh golden experience.
And the funny thing is, that was not how Yami Yugi played at all.
But Yugi would totally find this deck neat.
Yami Yugi in the anime would play useless garbage vanillas for 3 turns then cheat out of his ass to make up for his deck being unplayable crap.
He doesn't love the format. He loves the mirror. Those are two different things.
Say it again for the people in the back!
11:26 you could also do it by chaining sulliek to send the target. Would it have been possible to out the snow turn 4 by using sulliek to send reino and shuffle the snow?
I fucking love yugioh
the real winner this format is the timer
I'm already scared
Gold gaming right here
10:55 tear 0 as an alt format might be fire
or water?
being able to tear IRL again would be wild
this is rought to watch, my head hurt just watching
Damn, I know I'm early when the video's max quality is only 360p
11:10 LMAO that top deck was absolutely insane
this match was absolutely insane though
That was a fantastic game! Showcases why I love Tear so much. And no matter how many times you play the deck, you always feel like you're misplaying, there is just so many ways you could improve your gameplay which is also why I love it.
This look so much interesting
Realistically when you shuffled back your opponents snow they should have chained it to banish your Kitkallos
You guys think Dracopend is coming out next pack?
a thousand curses
That was straight-up one of the most enjoyable matches of Yu-Gi-Oh I have ever seen
Nice… im surprised hatemaxxc didn’t scoop at the end he must’ve had respect for the match
this, was, phenomenal.
no fuckin' ty lol
08:50 You should've sent Kit and it would have made Droplet resolve without effect since it has to negate an amount of monsters exactly equal to the amount of cards discarded.
I love peak Yugioh
i mean i start playing at 9pm, 4 - 5 matches and it's hecking 3 am, what can go wrong
Imagine this but 7 different decks
Would be AMAZING... For meta.
Awesome game tbh
360p complainers just back in 30 minutes
I actually like having the clock. Because some decks just aren’t as viable or oppressive as a result. Tear is very manageable now
people think tearalaments are long and boring, wait till you see an Urza High Artificer deck in edh pop off. That shit is actual agony.
Honestly the timer is so short for this format lmao they are gonna have to make it so much longer I feel like me and my opponent misplay allot in fear of the timer I ain't got time to think lmao but they won't make the timer faster so eh it's whatever just gotta think faster easy as that
Just remember there are some people who will see this amount of interaction/back and forth/tense game play, say “tear is ruining the game”, then load into a game, summon barrier statue of the inferno, equip it with moon mirror shield, set 3 pass.
the problem, i think, is not that tear exists, it's that there isn't more /like/ tear that's viable. if there were 4-5 tear-like archetypes, you'd probably see less issue.
I love that the two sides people are pretending exist is "Tear is fun because mirror match is fun" and "Wahhh I can't play degenerate stun.dek wahhhh"
when in reality it's
"Play Tear bro it's so fun the mirror is so peak bro i swear bro" being shoved down your throat every 5 seconds and "I don't care if the mirror is fun, it's still a tier 0 format with no diversity in gameplay which is the entire reason most of us play TCG's in the first place. So the format is ass"
@@JudojugsVtuber it doesn't help that the 'play Tear, bro' side has a frustrating habit of pretending that the 'I want more diversity' side is really saying 'waaah let me play stun', current channel included.
@@Dramatic_Gaming personally I want to play weird shit. I wanna play burgers and penguins.
@@HwahTV Exactly. But if you say you want to play a fun deck, it gets interpretted as wanting to play some jank DM archetype. No, Mr. MBT, I just want to play something that isn't tier 1.
NO JOKE 33 minutes
Alright lets side for game 2 kekw
This is in Gold 2, I feel bad for rogue players just trying to chill at the bottom tables. Really interesting gameplay, but money :(
I got to plat 4 before meeting the tearlament wall and I don't have it in me to derank until I get to the babby tables for some decent games
Im glad your having a good time, this looks like ass.
yea i also cant wait to stay under constant pressure for 30 minutes so fun
I mean, if you're not worrying about winning as much as wanting to play something more interactive, it's not as if that pressure necessarily is bad.
But if you have anxiety issues or feel that much pressure actually overwhelms you, yeah understandable can't say much about that. I play stuff less technically complex than this and the pressure of needing to time stuff precisely or immediately losing gets to be a bit much, getting worse when playing a bunch of tense duels in a row. Not sure if I could deal with trying to play Tear mirrors properly, let alone people with worse issues than me.
But at least it looks interesting enough to attempt once per day.
@@KuroeNezumi Yea I have this problem with competitive games where not knowing how to play optimally gives me a lot of anxiety, which is why I normally avoid them. I try to play for fun but I can't stand losing anymore. Also I don't think I'm smart enough for tear mirrors.
ill pas on the tear Mirrors
Man I miss the days where i'd just summon hyperion and then get black lustered soldier to death. At least that's a quick death lmaao
ill never understand running snow. Oh yeah i love banishing 7 resources ill never get back to not summon a monster bc it was shuffled back into the deck
MAN I MISS TEAR FORMAT
grande Omga
That's like a 30min game hahaha
Yeah that’s almost half an hour.
no joke 33 minutes
30 min game what da hel bruh
Ah yes, ""Content.""
should had consider neko neko mane king . straight gg . XD
5 months later, this deck list looks so heavenly (i miss merrli)
A fellow Tear enjoyer, yep now the old deck list and semi limits looks way way better than it used to
I miss my girl Merrli too :(
This match was good to watch but also very unenjoyable. NOT bc of tear, but bc mbt loves to slowly kill us by having the timer go SO LOW. My anxiety was killing me
Gotta think your plays through. One small mistake can snowball into a huge game loss
@@sammydray5919 he's also a content creator who talks to his chat so I'm just spitballin but considering he does it for just about every replay, gonna go with maybe 50% being thinking about it and then the other 50 being WHITE
To the chat comments about people hating the format, I feel like it's like Dragon Rulers: the mirror match is always hype as hell, but the issue is that not much else can compete and it stifles out deck diversity.
my man is saying "I dont like orange light" have u ever read a card named Abysss dweler ?how hard are u trying to loose the mirror my man if uwant to have a chance play orange light and imperm
I fucking hate playing against tear.
.
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unless I'm also playing tear >:))))
YOU SHOULD END YOUR TURN NOW
Yeah we are not getting bo3 any time soon
I would love this format if MD's timer was longer. Idk how you can realistically enjoy yourself with so many lines and points of interaction
MBT’s smug-debate kid-contrarian complex comes out the worst when shit like this happens lmao
As someone who played tearlaments. Ive lost many game. I lost to dryton/megalith, gravekeeper (first turn necrovally), rouge decks with abyss dweller. ive lost to many non tear deck, mostly due to opponent first turn locking my gy or clearing my board and then locking my gy. In short lock the graveyard to win
I lost to the stupid pacifis deck which opened shadow imprisoning mirror and 1 of soul drain and just floodgated me out, I almost managed to keep up with scream lowering their monsters attack but I didnt draw my s/t removal. And then I've lost to other strong decks if I opened badly/misplayed/didnt mill well, like I lost to chixiao baronne pass once cause my opener was maxx c crow merrli sulliek heartbeat reinoheart and I just had no way to access my engine so it was joever. You *can* lose to non tear decks but its either haha floodgate flip, other targeted hate or engine fizzling
That was such an amazing game! I absolutely love this format.
Not only was that a super engaging game, but the timer actually keeps Tear in check, I think it'll be a week or two before everyone goes back to their old decks because they just can't handle the skill of the deck under the timer.