He did the nasal thing on purpose on The Real Thing; listen to older Bungle demos, he didn't have to sound like that if he didn't want to; it fits that album, it's almost completely absent from Angel Dust.
Totally! This is also supported by the fact he was taking over from FNM's previous singer, Chuck Mosley, who had quite a nasal, spoken-word style, and so he was drawing influence, but also giving it his own twist.
Yes, he also wanted to sound completely different from his performances with the Bungle demos, he was very capable of the full vocals as FNM's manager had caught him doing and asked him why not use this voice? Mike simply answered with a 'I don't want to.' I also agree, the way he did his performance on that album works with The Real Thing's overall sound.
there are audio clips of him singing like chuck mosley when he first joined fnm. he sounds very much like chuck and totally different than on the album.
This is true. In one of his interviews, Bottum berated Mike because he was singing nasally when they recorded TRT when he knew he was not naturally nasal.
Mike Wallace talking about Patton's voice on The Real Thing album: One of my frustrations was that during the making of The Real Thing, when we were doing a song like "Epic," he’d sing in that really nasally voice. It was interesting, but then when you’d stop recording, on his own he’d sing with this really big, full-bodied voice between takes, and I was like, “Oh my god, we should get that on the recording,” because I thought he was such a technically good singer that we should have done that. We certainly argued about it, and what ended up on the record is the thing which, to his credit, I think was the right approach, it was very angsty, teenager-y, that kind of vibe, and I think that was what really spoke to a lot of the young people who ultimately heard that record.
Patton is such a freak. Definitely one of the most difficult analyses I have undertaken! More to come next week, stay tuned! Also, hit me with any questions or suggestion for my next Patton video in the comments! I will do a brief Q&A at the end of the next one! www.patreon.com/ZachAnsley discord.gg/eAZubDY Instagram: @Systolic1 For voice lesson inquiries: zansley1@gmail
Solid analysis man! I'll bet this was probably your biggest tackle yet. I've been following your channel since the summer and these videos never fail to bore me. I cant wait to see this channel grow more! Your videos have definitely helped me understand the voice a lot more.
Love Carry Stress in the Jaw, though from memory he doe some 'covered' singing in that (and I happen to think his voice is produced really flatly on that album, which might make it harder to hear what's going on vocally). Something like The Air Conditioned Nightmare from California covers possibly a broader range of styles with a higher technical difficulty. But whatever you do, I'm stoked you're doing this series. Well done man. ETA: I'm sure you know this but just in case: in the second half of Carry Stress, when it goes into the secret song, that's not Patton singing the old man voice, it's Trevor Dunn.
I really enjoyed this video but it would be more enjoyable to watch if your screen was the big one and the clip smaller on the side. just a thougt. love your channel 👍🏻🙂
Question from a non-singer, just a music fan. What kind of music do you enjoy? You seem to be pretty familiar and work with some metal bands and even obscure prog rock/metal like Pain of Salvation. Just curious, thanks.
As far as I know, he's a metalhead (for example a fan of young James Labrie), but also loves classical music and is classically trained. And he for sure knows a lot about Mike, so I guess he's a fan 😊
Ive been a huge patton fan for decades.. As for the reason he sung that way during his first couple years with faith no more, i believe its a combination of factors. Lack of maturity and deepness to his vocals certainly played a big part, but also as you mentioned it was a deliberate stylistic choice. I feel as though he's always wanted his voice to be simply another instrument in the mix, and often on the real thing album his vocals weave in and out of the other instruments and has a very 'synth-like' quality. Zombie eaters from the real thing is a good example of this. As keen as i am on patton, his live performances from that period were very hit or miss, he didnt seem to take his craft very seriously and was often very tongue in cheek in his delivery. And his lack of solid lows definitely were hard to listen to sometimes. Occasionally he was brilliant, but yeah sometimes it was cringeworthy. Good news is he MORE than made up for it in the subsequent years lol
thanx for the Mike Patton. can't wait for more songs on him. My favorite album of Faith no more being King for a day.. I'd be so much pleased if you could do something like 'Ugly in the morning' ruclips.net/video/KyF3twFHAaw/видео.html. here's a 1995 live I found on a quick search. Anywhomever.. these times were so much fun... Keep on man. thanx again for all your stuff.
I think he gets bored easily. If you listen to him performing live right after a project is released, he sounds great and always better than the studio versions but accurate; like, Angel Dust songs in 1992 live sound so much better than say 1997 and it's obvious he just doesn't really care. Still, even bored sounds better than 80% of musicians.
Skip The Real Thing altogether. Anything off King For A Day or Album of The Year. As far as Bungle goes, California is the way. Tomahawk is also something to check out vocally. For the most part The Real Thing is garbage as far as FNM goes.
Hey Zach, as a sugestion for your next Patton analysis I'd recommend Mr Bungle's performance of "Travolta" at the Bizzare Festival in 1999. It has probably the most "interesting" combination of sounds that I think I've ever heard Mike Patton make, as well as some actual singing to analysis as well. Personally, I've always wanted to see an analysis of this. Being recorded in 1999 also means that it's pretty much in the middle of his career - directly in between his early Faith No More period and his Itallian period, so I think it would make the perfect "2nd part" to the series. Though if you chose to cover the song, you'd have to edit out 6:17 to 6:49 in the video due to profanity. Despite this, I think it would be a better alternative to Carry Stress in the Jaw - from memory, that song is mostly screaming and instrumental. I also think "Nobody Knew they were Robots" might make a good choice as well. Though I could be wrong as I'm not a singer - just a big Mike Patton fan. Sorry for the late suggestion, really enjoyed the analysis as always!
Mike Patton is the Swiss army knife of singing
Beware his version of the nail clipper.
THANK YOU, finally someone has given him some proper attention! Patton is exceptional. Much respect.
He did the nasal thing on purpose on The Real Thing; listen to older Bungle demos, he didn't have to sound like that if he didn't want to; it fits that album, it's almost completely absent from Angel Dust.
yes, totally agree, and he even satirises this style during the gig when he takes it to an absurd level with a donald duck impression!!!
Totally! This is also supported by the fact he was taking over from FNM's previous singer, Chuck Mosley, who had quite a nasal, spoken-word style, and so he was drawing influence, but also giving it his own twist.
Yes, he also wanted to sound completely different from his performances with the Bungle demos, he was very capable of the full vocals as FNM's manager had caught him doing and asked him why not use this voice? Mike simply answered with a 'I don't want to.' I also agree, the way he did his performance on that album works with The Real Thing's overall sound.
there are audio clips of him singing like chuck mosley when he first joined fnm. he sounds very much like chuck and totally different than on the album.
This is true. In one of his interviews, Bottum berated Mike because he was singing nasally when they recorded TRT when he knew he was not naturally nasal.
Mike Wallace talking about Patton's voice on The Real Thing album:
One of my frustrations was that during the making of The Real Thing, when we were doing a song like "Epic," he’d sing in that really nasally voice. It was interesting, but then when you’d stop recording, on his own he’d sing with this really big, full-bodied voice between takes, and I was like, “Oh my god, we should get that on the recording,” because I thought he was such a technically good singer that we should have done that. We certainly argued about it, and what ended up on the record is the thing which, to his credit, I think was the right approach, it was very angsty, teenager-y, that kind of vibe, and I think that was what really spoke to a lot of the young people who ultimately heard that record.
“if you guys tweet him” he doesn’t have twitter *sniff sniff*
Patton is such a freak. Definitely one of the most difficult analyses I have undertaken! More to come next week, stay tuned! Also, hit me with any questions or suggestion for my next Patton video in the comments! I will do a brief Q&A at the end of the next one!
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Solid analysis man! I'll bet this was probably your biggest tackle yet. I've been following your channel since the summer and these videos never fail to bore me. I cant wait to see this channel grow more! Your videos have definitely helped me understand the voice a lot more.
“never fail to bore me” you realize this means you’re very bored by this channel xD
Love mike Patton. I used to have this on VHS Live at Brixton Academy. Watched it a million times
Vocal chords of steel. Perfect.
Great video man!!!!
You need more subs, my dude. I thought I'd just check a few minutes and watch the rest tomorrow morning... watched the whole thing.
Man I’d say do “the last to know” or “Just A Man” IMO really shows some of his versatility
Mike Patton is the best singer ever
One fantastic vocalist but one the singer more overrated of all time.
I appreciate this so much man
Bad ass interviews on the way! Dude from Haken is legit, solo work is great!
Can't wait for the next Patton related video!!
Look for it tomorrow night! Ive been fighting an illness this week but I should be good tomorrow :)
@@Zachsvocalanalysis Thank you. I hope you're feeling better!
Can you do Axl Rose please?
Love Carry Stress in the Jaw, though from memory he doe some 'covered' singing in that (and I happen to think his voice is produced really flatly on that album, which might make it harder to hear what's going on vocally). Something like The Air Conditioned Nightmare from California covers possibly a broader range of styles with a higher technical difficulty. But whatever you do, I'm stoked you're doing this series. Well done man.
ETA: I'm sure you know this but just in case: in the second half of Carry Stress, when it goes into the secret song, that's not Patton singing the old man voice, it's Trevor Dunn.
Also, great video as always. Excellent point about how getting rid of his nasal resonance enabled him to develop that lower range later on.
Could Mike's very thick neck have something to do with his vocal control?
Awesome video man, massive mike patton fan! Any chance you could do a vid on Daryl Hall sometime?
I really enjoyed this video but it would be more enjoyable to watch if your screen was the big one and the clip smaller on the side. just a thougt. love your channel 👍🏻🙂
Do Merry Go Bye Bye
Mike is also a smoker. I’ve seen multiple videos of him smoking on stage while singing. Talk about defying the odds!
He doesn't inhale, he has said it himself in interviews, it saves his lungs.
Question from a non-singer, just a music fan. What kind of music do you enjoy? You seem to be pretty familiar and work with some metal bands and even obscure prog rock/metal like Pain of Salvation. Just curious, thanks.
As far as I know, he's a metalhead (for example a fan of young James Labrie), but also loves classical music and is classically trained. And he for sure knows a lot about Mike, so I guess he's a fan 😊
Zombie Eaters & The Morning After. Great vocals..
Do a video on Layne Staley of Alice in chains.
A little disappointed that you didn't take Midlife Crisis as an example.
Ive been a huge patton fan for decades.. As for the reason he sung that way during his first couple years with faith no more, i believe its a combination of factors. Lack of maturity and deepness to his vocals certainly played a big part, but also as you mentioned it was a deliberate stylistic choice. I feel as though he's always wanted his voice to be simply another instrument in the mix, and often on the real thing album his vocals weave in and out of the other instruments and has a very 'synth-like' quality. Zombie eaters from the real thing is a good example of this. As keen as i am on patton, his live performances from that period were very hit or miss, he didnt seem to take his craft very seriously and was often very tongue in cheek in his delivery. And his lack of solid lows definitely were hard to listen to sometimes. Occasionally he was brilliant, but yeah sometimes it was cringeworthy. Good news is he MORE than made up for it in the subsequent years lol
thanx for the Mike Patton. can't wait for more songs on him. My favorite album of Faith no more being King for a day.. I'd be so much pleased if you could do something like 'Ugly in the morning' ruclips.net/video/KyF3twFHAaw/видео.html. here's a 1995 live I found on a quick search. Anywhomever.. these times were so much fun... Keep on man. thanx again for all your stuff.
I have watched many Patton interviews, and your voice actually sounds a bit like his, when he speaks. 😂
So true
omg yeah it does a bit
His right hand is numb
I' m a Huge Mike 's fan, but often He seems annoyed to sing in the Proper way. sometimes He Jokes too much in concert
Andrea C. I wouldn’t say annoyed but he just is spontaneous
I think he gets bored easily. If you listen to him performing live right after a project is released, he sounds great and always better than the studio versions but accurate; like, Angel Dust songs in 1992 live sound so much better than say 1997 and it's obvious he just doesn't really care. Still, even bored sounds better than 80% of musicians.
Perfect tongue placement
Please do ville valo
Mike Patton doesn't do Social Media lol
Love these videos man, could you do one on Kurt Cobain?
Skip The Real Thing altogether. Anything off King For A Day or Album of The Year. As far as Bungle goes, California is the way. Tomahawk is also something to check out vocally. For the most part The Real Thing is garbage as far as FNM goes.
The nasal effect was deliberate, you sir do not understand Patton
Hey Zach, as a sugestion for your next Patton analysis I'd recommend Mr Bungle's performance of "Travolta" at the Bizzare Festival in 1999. It has probably the most "interesting" combination of sounds that I think I've ever heard Mike Patton make, as well as some actual singing to analysis as well. Personally, I've always wanted to see an analysis of this. Being recorded in 1999 also means that it's pretty much in the middle of his career - directly in between his early Faith No More period and his Itallian period, so I think it would make the perfect "2nd part" to the series. Though if you chose to cover the song, you'd have to edit out 6:17 to 6:49 in the video due to profanity. Despite this, I think it would be a better alternative to Carry Stress in the Jaw - from memory, that song is mostly screaming and instrumental. I also think "Nobody Knew they were Robots" might make a good choice as well. Though I could be wrong as I'm not a singer - just a big Mike Patton fan.
Sorry for the late suggestion, really enjoyed the analysis as always!
Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/DgQ7AP2QjiE/видео.html