The SHOCKING Truth About Gran Turismo 7 Roulette (It's Worse Than We Thought...)

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  • This time I REALLY explore Gran Turismo 7 roulette and.....the results are very surprising!
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  • @MizraPaul
    @MizraPaul 2 года назад +265

    I got a 4* ticket today and it had 5 GR3 cars, I was shocked.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +107

      Still got the coins?

    • @MizraPaul
      @MizraPaul 2 года назад +97

      @@Kireth Obviously🤣

    • @germanspy8679
      @germanspy8679 2 года назад +6

      Same

    • @labounti
      @labounti 2 года назад +11

      Had 3 cars and a turbo...... *coins..

    • @ItsWillLee
      @ItsWillLee 2 года назад +12

      @@Kireth 😂 was about to say the same 😂
      On one spin this week I had an engine swap, turbo kit, dealer invite & two identical cheap Mazda Atenza road cars, like seriously WTF??
      ..ended up with the Porsche invite, oh yea🙄...would've rathered coins 😂🤣

  • @Fosten12
    @Fosten12 2 года назад +292

    Kireth: "Wait, its all rigged?"
    Polyphony: "Always has been"

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +7

    • @Gothicprincess8186
      @Gothicprincess8186 2 года назад +4

      Sony: *runs away

    • @racelegend799
      @racelegend799 2 года назад +4

      Before the 1.13 update, there was a way to get different tickets. But the update ended that so now it's set and truly a waste of memory. It's beyond the point of anger now!

    • @hssIceland
      @hssIceland 2 года назад

      How is it rigged?

    • @dariusbaja21
      @dariusbaja21 2 года назад +2

      @@hssIceland are u for real ??

  • @austin12m
    @austin12m 2 года назад +502

    Yes this is by far the worst part of the game for me, would love to win some of the fun engine swaps but no... 5000 coins every time.

    • @dirt.surfer
      @dirt.surfer 2 года назад +11

      Yeah this part of the game was my end I can't even load it up anymore I'm finished. Truly a shame

    • @TheEddiez06
      @TheEddiez06 2 года назад +4

      @@dirt.surfer same as me… Who brought those stupid ideas…

    • @wvansluisveld3011
      @wvansluisveld3011 2 года назад +11

      @@TheEddiez06 Japanese people who worship their boss and don’t say no or step up against infantile ideas. GT7 feels like candy crush now.

    • @heheokay9090
      @heheokay9090 2 года назад +4

      @@wvansluisveld3011 Don't think the ethnicity has anything to do with it m8 relax

    • @SlavicUnionGaming
      @SlavicUnionGaming Год назад

      @@TheEddiez06 yamauchi probably is the reason its in game. he has grey hair so i think his mind is aging so hes making stupid choices

  • @taconator1213
    @taconator1213 2 года назад +290

    The way these tickets work is each ticket let has a seed that is automatically assigned to said ticket the moment you receive it. Every ticket you receive in GT7 is pre determined which makes the roulette style ticket thing completely pointless to most people. Personally I’d rather just receive the pre-set reward automatically when given the ticket rather than stashing a bunch of things to go through and wait on animations.

    • @GREENneonDRIVER
      @GREENneonDRIVER 2 года назад +8

      I want to see proof they are seeded. Personally I don't believe they are. It is probably a problem with weight given to each reward. Lesser reward having too much weight when the game decides the outcome.

    • @julianpollock5323
      @julianpollock5323 2 года назад +27

      Absolutely agree, I did the claimed glitch where you can re-do the roulette and surprise surprise it lands on the same item everything! And what else is when you re-load everything else changes apart from the item you always win and it did this 20 times! It's absolutely seeded

    • @phosphor112
      @phosphor112 2 года назад +6

      This is exactly it. Many games are similar. You get a seeded gift when you get the item, it’s not WHEN you do the roll. R6 Siege, Overwatch, they are all like that. It’s so these can’t be manipulated. The seed knows the value is 5k, it doesn’t matter what the other items are.

    • @DoubleVisionSoundSystem
      @DoubleVisionSoundSystem 2 года назад +3

      Yep. Such a waste of time. Just click to reveal prize would be much better rather than this guise of roulette. We have to grind enough for credits. We shouldn’t have to spend even more time on this rigged funfair nonsense.

    • @bradleyferguson5936
      @bradleyferguson5936 2 года назад

      Man that’s some tricky a$$ sh!t

  • @SkunksterPlaysPoorly
    @SkunksterPlaysPoorly 2 года назад +201

    I think I wouldn’t mind the fact that you get the lowest amount most of the time if the lowest amount was commensurate with the stars on the ticket. A 4-star ticket shouldn’t have the same lowest reward value as a 1-star ticket.

    • @danielsuarez786
      @danielsuarez786 2 года назад +6

      I think the stars mean the best possible prize is better but, due to the very high probability you get the smallest reward aniway, they should tweak this system indeed. It's frustrating.

    • @Twigg4075
      @Twigg4075 2 года назад +1

      I'd also love to know what determines how many stars the ticket is?

    • @psychozen7169
      @psychozen7169 2 года назад

      There all worth 5 credits have not won anything but this.

    • @techpassion4126
      @techpassion4126 2 года назад

      I really hope they give a better minimum reward for 4-start tickets. I don't play GT7 because I don't have a PS5, but I faced similar issues with Forza Horizon 5's Wheelspins & Super Wheelspins. Super Wheelspins are more expensive to buy + they're rarer and harder to earn, yet the minimum prize is still the same. So you could get a $5000 prize from a normal wheelspin but a superwheelspin might give you two $1000 prizes and a t-shirt. There's literally no incentive to get superwheelspins because they can be just as bad if not worse, so why go through the effort of playing the game to get them?
      Anyways, really hope GT7 gets fixed properly. Gran Turismo fans have been waiting way too long for the game to just be a cheap casino. I started with Gran Turismo when I was a kid, and I'd be pissed off too if they ruined the game the way they did in GT7. Best wishes to all the players out there!

  • @AL71B
    @AL71B 2 года назад +264

    Good test!! As you show the roulette is a charade. It should either be removed or made truly random.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +31

      Completely random please!

    • @rapperodebarrio
      @rapperodebarrio 2 года назад +3

      Removed! Its a waste of time ! Yes click ticket gimme some keep racing as K sating at the end

    • @christiansantana413
      @christiansantana413 2 года назад

      Shinanigans

    • @jonatanromanowski9519
      @jonatanromanowski9519 2 года назад +3

      @@Kireth have you heard about Gambling Restrictions? For instance, gambling in videogames is banned in Belgium.
      Random=gambling
      Like "loot boxes"
      But I agree it's shitty as-is

    • @logexpTommy
      @logexpTommy 2 года назад +2

      @@jonatanromanowski9519 Is it really gambling, if you can't even buy those roulette tickets with money?

  • @samrackham4774
    @samrackham4774 2 года назад +87

    I’d rather they just remove it. It’s an absolute waste of time, you know exactly what you’re getting when you do open a ticket. The absolute minimum amount. It’s worse when you actually manage to get a 5 star I almost don’t want to open it because of shear disappointment

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +6

      I imagine they might tweak it actually!

    • @virtual_car996
      @virtual_car996 2 года назад +11

      Honestly if they give us the option to buy all available parts and engines instead of being exclusive to roulette tickets, I wouldn’t mind it imo

    • @samrackham4774
      @samrackham4774 2 года назад +1

      @@Kireth tweaking is putting it lightly 😂

    • @samrackham4774
      @samrackham4774 2 года назад +3

      @@virtual_car996 absolutely I would rather grind than wait till gt8 comes out just to get the Mazda engine swap

    • @DrRyan82994
      @DrRyan82994 2 года назад +1

      @@danielstokker winning them in a challenging race would be fun. this game has no prizes for races outside of cafe

  • @flameburstgt6503
    @flameburstgt6503 2 года назад +75

    This is the exact reason why I haven’t been able to get a 4 rotor engine for the FD RX7 and probably won’t be able to get it ever unless they fix this. For now I have 2 solutions for this
    1. Make the reloutte system completely random
    2. Remove engine swaps and special parts from the reloutte system and allow us to buy them in the tuning shop under conversions/engine swaps

    • @dantecapulong2710
      @dantecapulong2710 2 года назад +5

      I know right... im willing to fcking buy the engine even for 10M credits

    • @dukedub
      @dukedub 2 года назад +1

      @@dantecapulong2710 I'd pay all 22 million of my cr for that swap

    • @dukedub
      @dukedub 2 года назад +1

      @@dantecapulong2710 hell, I had almost 60 million at one point after finishing the CE I would have traded all 60 million for the 4 rotor swap.

    • @dantecapulong2710
      @dantecapulong2710 2 года назад +3

      @@johnm3907 no issues in trying but the chances are horrendously low... by the time ill get the engine il probably be a grandfather.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +8

      What a present for your grandchild though!

  • @highlightshadow
    @highlightshadow 2 года назад +39

    Given the in-game economy the 5000 credit prize is essentially worthless. The min-values should be at least 20k given you have legendary cars costing 20m credits. Getting a prize of 1/400th of the price of said car is not really helping that much

    • @gtp_vexd3507
      @gtp_vexd3507 2 года назад +8

      It’ll help if you drive 26.2 miles everyday for the next 399 days though. 🤣

    • @zachw2538
      @zachw2538 2 года назад +10

      @@gtp_vexd3507 it helped me uninstall the game and move on to something that respects my time.

  • @jerramoshea8164
    @jerramoshea8164 2 года назад +60

    I think 1 ticket is ok for the first daily mileage, given you mostly get bum rewards. However there should be additional tickets received with better prizes when you do more miles. Say at 100miles then 200miles ect.

    • @dukedub
      @dukedub 2 года назад +4

      I'd just leave the thawk riding the wall at stage X for 10 hours a day while I work. That is why thats not a thing

    • @sofussgaardchristiansen520
      @sofussgaardchristiansen520 2 года назад

      should be dine with daily or weekly drift challenges and time attacks in different sectors of the tracks. and other daily challenges like that

  • @bigdonk4443
    @bigdonk4443 2 года назад +37

    For a month straight I've been getting the lowest amount of money, no matter the amount of stars. Miss the gt sport roulette. Also what happened to them giving us the ability to sell our cars

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +11

    • @drodro7491
      @drodro7491 2 года назад +2

      Don’t feel bad I’m on the same boat. Tho I did win a gt car once I practically fell out of my chair, I was so shocked!

    • @Klausi_92
      @Klausi_92 2 года назад +1

      C‘mon you tell tell me you won 1 month straight always the lowest prize?
      I mean yes for 90% of the time yeah but I had like 2-3 cars and like 4-5 tuning parts out of this.
      They have to fix it anyways tho.

    • @100percentSNAFU
      @100percentSNAFU 2 года назад +1

      I actually won an F1 car a couple weeks ago. This was by far the best prize I won so far and actually up to that point I had done pretty well. Since that spin I have got lowest amount every single time except for once, when I won a GR3 car that I already own ☹️

    • @wilfredwayne7139
      @wilfredwayne7139 Год назад

      Try over a year 😂

  • @adityairawan1843
    @adityairawan1843 2 года назад +17

    Based on my experience with gacha-type of games, lower rarity rewards always have way bigger rate than higher rarity rewards. In _Cinderella Girls Starlight Stage,_ for example, rewards in the gacha (something like roulette or lootbox) are grouped into three; Rare (87%), Secret Rare (10%), and Super Secret Rare (3%). Here, it's clear that R rarity has way bigger probability than SR and SSR, so players end up getting R most of the time.
    I believe this is the trick Polyphony Digital uses here. Small coins have way bigger probability than the rest, even against bigger amount of coins. What sparks the problem here is Polyphony presented the roulette as if all 5 rewards have the same probability, while in fact it isn't, and they won't show the numbers no matter what.
    *This is different from gacha games where the numbers are clearly stated in an easily accesible page within the game, thus having some degree of transparency.*
    What a sneaky move.
    Take my words with a pinch of salt. I assume, the probability of small coins is 90% or higher. The remaining 10% is distributed to other rewards in an uneven manner. Of course, this is a baseless assumption, so (once again I say) take my words with a pinch of salt.

  • @llIlll
    @llIlll 2 года назад +16

    I opened just about 50 and got the worst prize 40 times. I got 3 cars. I got 500000 once. And the other spins were the second worse. Honestly very disappointed.

  • @photodave219
    @photodave219 2 года назад +11

    I really want PD and The Gran Turismo producers to publish the odds of what youre going to get.

    • @lachychops2
      @lachychops2 2 года назад

      I thought they were required by law to disclose odds in regions such as Belgium

    • @dirt.surfer
      @dirt.surfer 2 года назад +1

      Trust me you don't want to know.

  • @jonblakeman6636
    @jonblakeman6636 2 года назад +15

    The spinning wheel concept is totally for your entertainment. Items are randomapart from the prize item. The prize is already determined the moment you get the ticket.

  • @doctorbashir3497
    @doctorbashir3497 2 года назад +13

    another easy way to test would be to wait until you get a great prize, then redo that spin several times and see if its truly predetermined

    • @ItsWillLee
      @ItsWillLee 2 года назад +4

      Would absolutely suck if it switched up to credits - but hey, at least it would be random 😁...🙄

    • @nopenope9153
      @nopenope9153 2 года назад +1

      Theyre predetermined as you get them. Someone recieved collecting 100 cars trophy just from recieving the ticket. Not opening it.

    • @danielsuarez786
      @danielsuarez786 2 года назад

      @@nopenope9153 🤯that being true, It's an evidence of the real system. And it actually sucks.

    • @misakisaki2682
      @misakisaki2682 2 года назад

      the story goes that no one ever get the "great prize" :)

  • @marshallsmill8422
    @marshallsmill8422 2 года назад +61

    They should remove it. What are the odds you’ll get a carbon driveshaft or other unique parts for your favorite car? Probably never. So it’s just a tease.

    • @lammyjammer6670
      @lammyjammer6670 2 года назад +24

      Performance related parts shouldn't only be available through a lottery mechanic. Whoever thought that was a good idea should be fired at Polyphony.

    • @marshallsmill8422
      @marshallsmill8422 2 года назад +4

      @@lammyjammer6670 Firing that person would be a bit harsh, but I understand the frustration it’s giving most of us. I hope they fix it soon because it’s a LOT of wasted tickets we are all opening and worked for in our leisure time.

    • @lammyjammer6670
      @lammyjammer6670 2 года назад +9

      @@marshallsmill8422 You're right. The 🤣 should fire whoever approved the idea

    • @marshallsmill8422
      @marshallsmill8422 2 года назад +1

      @@lammyjammer6670 😂

    • @Jux1401
      @Jux1401 2 года назад +1

      I got a swap for the s13 and a ultra high rpm turbo for the Nissan drift car. Other then that it has always been the lowest prize with 1 exception in the beginning of the game I got 500k credits off of a 4 star.

  • @FourTwenny
    @FourTwenny 2 года назад +7

    I got a car from Roulette once. It was the only RUF in the game, which was listed on the used car lot at the time. I obviously already had the car, so it was the only reward worth less than the smallest coin pile. So I run a Tomahawk X on Tokyo east. 350 cars so far, about 70 to go.

  • @jayj84
    @jayj84 2 года назад +13

    The "roulette" system has left a sour taste for me. It's the one of the game that annoys me.

  • @Dolmeca_the_Knight
    @Dolmeca_the_Knight Год назад +2

    I've started the game today, so I'm progressing and obtaining roulette tickets pretty quickly at the moment. Never played or watched videos before to not auto-spoil the new features of the game. After a while I felt that the roulette was always giving me the worst possible prize. So I started to look on internet If I was being unlucky. Thanks to you, I know that I'm not cursed with bad luck, the real reason is the roulette is a scam

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Год назад

      Still good luck!

  • @GurtGobain
    @GurtGobain 2 года назад +33

    Someone needs to do this like 50 times in a row unedited so we have an undeniable sample size, then we can make a huge fuss about it on Reddit and maybe get them to actually change it to be real roulette. It seems like they listened to some feedback about the initial game. Maybe if we raise a big enough stink we can get fair tickets.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +20

      Thanks for volunteering! 😅 😅

    • @ProTuneHD
      @ProTuneHD 2 года назад +5

      Multiple people on GTPlanet have and they got different wheels but the same reward (the one that didn’t change out of the 5) so we have known it’s been pre determined since the start.

    • @chinafukr69kack31
      @chinafukr69kack31 2 года назад +2

      ​@@Kireth hopefully not on a PS4 with the original hard drive. that would drive me nuts

    • @racelegend799
      @racelegend799 2 года назад

      @@Kireth Total honesty, on Tuesday this coming week, I would be willing to open the same one 50 times in a row but I just need assistance on how to upload and record the event. I know I can "share" a 15 min clip but I thought that was of continuous play

    • @racelegend799
      @racelegend799 2 года назад

      @@ProTuneHD before the 1.13 update I was able to get different results out of my tickets. But after the update that method is completely gone

  • @clydewaqabaca1768
    @clydewaqabaca1768 2 года назад +3

    I noticed that when your doing missions or licences that if your having difficulties the longer it takes you to complete that mission or licence or race the better the reward of the roulette.

  • @kamilc.3609
    @kamilc.3609 2 года назад +3

    Got with a 4 star ticket the 787b engine

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +1

      Whooooa nice!!

    • @kamilc.3609
      @kamilc.3609 2 года назад +2

      @@Kireth 😂😂😂😂after 1000 2000/5000cr. Tickets

  • @richardblackman924
    @richardblackman924 2 года назад +2

    Hi since the last update I have only had the lowest amount of coins on the daily roulette tickets. I thought that might just be me, sorry to say but I’m glad I am not alone. Great video thanks 😊

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Hi Richard sorry to hear that! Thanks for your support of the channel!

  • @kennyshort9078
    @kennyshort9078 2 года назад +7

    I agree with some of the comments. Completely remove it. Its already pretty determined what you will receive lowest prize. And what get an invatations to cars you don't need...come on..

  • @DivineInt
    @DivineInt 2 года назад +1

    It was proven weeks ago by numerous other youtubers and on redit that the reward is determined when you receive it rather than when you open it.

  • @TonicofSonic
    @TonicofSonic 2 года назад +5

    This, along with alot of other reasons, will cause gt7 to be irrelevant far sooner than we all could imagine.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      I really hope not

    • @SoWavvyy
      @SoWavvyy Год назад

      It’s still going to be relevant. Probably the best racing game for PlayStation controller wise. It’s too popular however, this roulette ticket stuff is really getting on my nerves.

  • @GTsimms
    @GTsimms 2 года назад +1

    I've been getting a lot of 3 Star 5,000 credits myself. It's beyond aggravating!!!

  • @scappley1735
    @scappley1735 2 года назад +3

    Why even bother with roulette tickets at this point? Just add the mileage points back for the special parts so that we at least have some control over it

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +2

      I actually like the animation, would be great if it was actually random though

  • @grahamhutchison6976
    @grahamhutchison6976 2 года назад +2

    Hi mate been playing all week I'm getting 2 3 and 4 stars and it gives me the lowest amount everytime

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +1

      Sorry Graham, there's still hope you get a good prize though!

  • @MitsubishiEvoXFQ
    @MitsubishiEvoXFQ 2 года назад +5

    Prior to update 1.12 I was finding the roulette quite random so I was seeing some good success every 2-3 tickets. Since this update I’ve only got the smallest number of coins, plus one random bag-o-shite car.

    • @3mileisland516
      @3mileisland516 2 года назад +3

      Pre 1.12 was exactly the same as this. Lots of vids on RUclips about it.

    • @dunboy7874
      @dunboy7874 2 года назад +2

      Yeah agree, I've actually had some really good stuff from the tickets, I won the 500000, twice, I've won the porche gr1 24hrs car worth 3mil and bunch of other 1mil cars, then the update and now its almost always the lowest prize.

  • @Don_Tbone
    @Don_Tbone Год назад +2

    I reported it to Playstation customer support yesterday. If a patch isn't released to address the issue a case could be made to file a lawsuit. I think enough people have identified the same issue judging simply by the comments on this video.

  • @BertoBoi
    @BertoBoi 2 года назад +5

    I have a way to try and fix this:
    So, do you know the card system they used during the career mode after you win a championship for the first time? Why not just do that again, but add 6 cards to choose from instead? The possible rewards (like the tuning parts, credits, and cars) can still stay the same too. That way, it can be YOUR fault you got 5000 Credits instead of that fancy 787B engine swap.

    • @danielsuarez786
      @danielsuarez786 2 года назад +1

      Good one! But Poliphony doesn't want you to have the same odds for the 5k than the GR.3 or the engine swap.

    • @GooseUW
      @GooseUW 2 года назад +1

      Card system is likely rigged similarly as a three card Monty.

  • @grafitea
    @grafitea 2 года назад +1

    My brother got me into the habit of clicking the ticket but looking away long enough for the audio cue the prize was won.. can't be disappointed with what else you were teased with

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Haha I love it 😅

  • @garethcole6569
    @garethcole6569 2 года назад +7

    I did a similar test over the course of a couple of weeks, each ticket would give me exactly the same reward regardless of when I opened it, I closed after each run and always had the same reward but frequently got different rolls, it’s terrible! Cheapens the game for me

    • @ItsWillLee
      @ItsWillLee 2 года назад +2

      Ya, I did also, the other "offerings" may change, but the prize given never changed, not even the colour of any vehicles I "won". I saved all my tickets for over two weeks, waited for the update hoping they would improve the roulette gimmick, but sadly here we are...

    • @nss_BoB
      @nss_BoB 2 года назад

      thats why its done the way it is... so you cant cheat until you get good reward... doh

  • @merlind.wizzard3558
    @merlind.wizzard3558 2 года назад +2

    I agree with what you are saying. Many of us have tested this. Seems like the game already knows your prize when you get the ticket. All the flashing lights and appearance of chance is just for show. At least that is what many if us are thinking.

  • @PatsFanGermany
    @PatsFanGermany 2 года назад +5

    They should just skip the charade and either give us any gift for doing the daily marathon or just do away with the entire driving marathon gift roulette concept and and let us buy the roulette only items (like carbon drive shafts).
    The way it is now, it's just a sad joke!

  • @doctorbashir3497
    @doctorbashir3497 2 года назад +1

    youd have to do it 100 times or more to figure it out. It might just be that the 1st option is occurs 90%, 2nd option 5%, 3rd option 3 percent, 4th option 1.5%, and 5th option 0.5%

    • @racelegend799
      @racelegend799 2 года назад +1

      Julian, does it really have to be 100? Because seriously, I did well over 70 times when I had about 8 tickets and I had each one catalogued as to what I was going to get. I was so aggravated because before the patch, I was able to somewhat determine the prize but now it doesn't.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      What's the percentage likelihood of getting the 5000 coins through all the spins I did?

    • @doctorbashir3497
      @doctorbashir3497 2 года назад +1

      @@Kireth if you only did it 3 or 4 times. Pretty likely. But you could statistically figure out exactly what the roulette wheel is doing with your technique.
      I’ll try the reverse technique if I get a high value prize.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Let us know!

  • @MisaelCastilloBrenes
    @MisaelCastilloBrenes 2 года назад +1

    I had some impressive prizes, One was an Audi R18 Gr.1, the other was the Jaguar VGT SV.

  • @BlindMango
    @BlindMango 2 года назад +3

    I immediately realized this when the game first came out - I always look at the worst prize and said "it's gonna be that one" and sure enough, it's almost always that one. I think it's just that it's definitely not a 1 of 5 chance. Your odds of getting the crappiest prize are probably like 80% and the most expensive one is probably like 5% chance.
    Gran Turismo Sport had this same roulette thing, however they were all cars, so you were guaranteed to win a car each time lol

  • @stevedemchinsky5460
    @stevedemchinsky5460 2 года назад +1

    Can confirm. Got an AM Invitation. Quit several times after the roulette , other items sprung up including coins, but only gave me the same invite each time..

  • @papayamadness1019
    @papayamadness1019 2 года назад +3

    It's probably the worst system I've seen in a game , it doesn't make me want to buy credits either in fact it makes me not wanting to play the game due to unobtainable cars I want because 2 times I've finally gotten the money to buy a Mazda 787 and the other LM car and it's gone off sale whilst I was doing the event to get the car it's bs tbh
    But on GT sport I won a few cars (that I never drove ) gt7 for me is broken because of Thier greed .always thought kaz was one of the last people to go this way

    • @Ravens-Nation-34
      @Ravens-Nation-34 2 года назад

      I don’t think it’s Kaz at all, I think it’s Sony

    • @oxoK9999oxo
      @oxoK9999oxo 2 года назад

      The same thing happened to me. I wanted the Pennzoil Skyline and it was available before a race that would put me over the top on credits. Then when I went to buy it it was sold out. Shady and unnecessary practices indeed.

  • @dave011679
    @dave011679 2 года назад +1

    I won a Group 4 Hyundai and the 1 million credit stack of gold bars last week. 9/10 I get the lowest prize but I have gotten good rewards a few times from the roulette wheel

  • @ItsWillLee
    @ItsWillLee 2 года назад +5

    Rant/ 😂
    The roulette tickets and always online requirement are my biggest issue as of today, since the credit rewards have been *"FIXED"*.
    Seriously, the roulette tickets are driving me away, PD are holding back very special features of the game for absolutely zero reason. You can't buy roulette tickets...and hopefully they don't take that route...
    More attention needs to be brought about the roulette, these rare parts are completely unobtainable otherwise, I dont see how this helps their playerbase - I'm literally in the midst of arranging my PC setup to go back playing Assetto Corsa, I want engine swaps, plain and simple, dont add a feature & then make it almost impossible / only one RIGGED way to obtain. - *I've played GT7 everday since release, I have 78% completed and have yet to receive ONE RARE PART - got 5 or 6 normal parts that I can buy already.*
    In a few hours I'll be roaming Assetto Corsa, I'll throw on GT7 to get my daily roulette LMFAO, that's about it..
    GT7 pisses me off as a lifelong GT player, I bought GT1 the very first week it came out and have been a fanboy since, this is the worst edition of GT ever, Prologue was better ffs..
    Okay rant over😂😁

    • @mikec3142
      @mikec3142 2 года назад +1

      Played since day one, Not one engine swap ticket. What a rip off.

    • @dukedub
      @dukedub 2 года назад

      @@mikec3142 same

  • @franksaldana8787
    @franksaldana8787 2 года назад +2

    Thanks you for making a video on this.... I've been saying this sense day one!

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Hey no problem Frank 👍

  • @davidbryant7300
    @davidbryant7300 2 года назад +3

    Loved the ACC content Kireth. More of that and the daily races please

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Heard loud and clear David! I have to take into account what makes sense views wise (and this video will get more views than the ACC video)....but I love playing ACC and it seems people are enjoying watching it!

    • @davidbryant7300
      @davidbryant7300 2 года назад

      @@Kireth of course you should upload whatever you want. I love the daily races and the hints and tips I’ve finally got to B driver and S sportsmens rating and you’ve helped!!

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +1

      @@davidbryant7300 congratulations on the B ranking, road to A now!

    • @davidbryant7300
      @davidbryant7300 2 года назад

      @@Kireth getting the G923 helped enormously

    • @davidbryant7300
      @davidbryant7300 2 года назад

      @@Kireth any tips when going from TC1 to TC0. Think that’s holding me back?

  • @darkcaste
    @darkcaste 2 года назад

    100% true. I tried this and got the same suspension for a specific car each time for my ticket. The item is determined when you get the ticket, the roulette wheel is just for show.

  • @MK-re6sf
    @MK-re6sf 2 года назад +21

    I would be happy to click on a ticket and immediately get the pre-determined gift, it's the deception I don't like.
    On another note, it's a shame they haven't got Doc Brown's delorian body kit available in this game, even if it were Cr10m I'd grind races all day to get it.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +4

      Needs more flux

  • @Aldarune_Valheim5515
    @Aldarune_Valheim5515 2 года назад +1

    Get rid of roulette system all together!!
    Want to give us money? Increase rewards for races!
    Want to give us cars? Then just let us buy them! Oh wait we already can!
    Want to give us parts? Let us purchase them from the tuning shop because they are even given a credit value.
    Sorry just so much pent up rage about this system! Thanks for the cool video!

  • @Bash11011
    @Bash11011 2 года назад +3

    It's a money grabbing arcade game!
    Kirerh you should concentrate more on ACC.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +3

      If ACC gets decent views on the channel I'll definitely keep going on my journey there! Looking forward to some more ACC racing this weekend

    • @alexhnatiak5138
      @alexhnatiak5138 2 года назад

      It's a sim arcade. If you want arcade go play need for speed. Imagine thinking about playing another game just because of te roulette tickets lol. Please go.

    • @Bash11011
      @Bash11011 2 года назад

      @@alexhnatiak5138 it's an arcade game.. Need for what? ACC much better if you're only playing on a ps5.
      Far too easy, it's fun if you're playing all your mates on ps5 but seriously if you think it's a sim good for you.

    • @Crook3d_GT
      @Crook3d_GT 2 года назад

      @@Bash11011 difficulty to drive does not equal realism

    • @Bash11011
      @Bash11011 2 года назад

      @@Crook3d_GT steady Eddie bits the equipment for his son to play.. I like real cars on tracks..

  • @WhizeCracker
    @WhizeCracker 2 года назад +1

    I'm already a subscriber and not the luckiest at anything. Last night on an account that doesn't carry PS Plus I won 1,000,000Crs on a two-star ticket. The stack of GOLD bars, I know, right? Love your info.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      It's not all bad, you're subscribed to some great (not guaranteed ) content

  • @JamesElise160
    @JamesElise160 2 года назад +8

    I guess the actual “roulette” is done when you receive the ticket, and the opening of the prize is a bit of a weird sham. Now, I kind of understand this, as otherwise you could do what you are trying and keep going back and opening the ticket again and again to get what you want, which is obviously not a glitch they want. But…. The “always getting the lowest possible money” part is hugely irritating. I got a Mazda hypercar, an Aston concept and half a million credits since March, and virtually every other spin has been 2-10000 credits. That bit needs adjusting.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +2

      I don't think the animation should keep showing different items then

    • @JamesElise160
      @JamesElise160 2 года назад

      @@Kireth I agree. They should be upfront about what it actually is, You win a card and that card reveals what it is. None of this pre-determined roulette daftness.

  • @matthewherr1588
    @matthewherr1588 2 года назад +2

    I figured this out when I got a trophy for winning a car the moment I clicked on a ticket. It’s not an actual spin. The result is determined with no correlation to the animation

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +1

      This is it

  • @robinwells5343
    @robinwells5343 2 года назад +5

    You'd need to do at least 1000 of these with the same ticket to prove your theory.
    This could 100% just be luck as the worst reward will defo be the heaviest weighted in terms of odds. Cars are probs a 2% chance at most, small money is probably 35-40% 2nd smallest money will probs be about 25% etc.
    Same as all loot box type mechanics ever.
    The main point is making assumptions based on anything less than 1000 tests is horrendously inaccurate

  • @acid2go
    @acid2go 2 года назад

    I worked on slot machines software and that's basically how they work. The random number assigned to your spin already determines the prize, the spin is pure cosmetic. When you spin the slot machine reels the animation is bullsh and the result is already precalculated. What makes me furious is that this is a full price game and everyone hates this sort of mechanics (I guess it is different in Japan?)
    The second issue is that the spin is not balanced, you don't have a 1/5 chance for each item, and it would be very intering to know the real chances you can get from a ticket. There's maybe laws in some countries that make it mandatory, worth checking!

  • @dustinwild
    @dustinwild 2 года назад +3

    I've been a GT fan since GT one, and have bought every version, put thousands of hours into this game. I have consistently gotten the lowest roulette every single time, without fail. My good friend just got into the game, bought GT Sports a few weeks before GT7 came out, and he is getting all sorts of great prizes. He got a Ferrari FXX on one, when I got a 5000 credit on the same spin. I think they are rewarding new players to the game so they stay playing, and us faithful players get garbage, cause they know we aren't going to leave. Just my .02

    • @arthurclarke9810
      @arthurclarke9810 2 года назад

      I got the game 2 days ago and I always get the lowest amount of credits on each roulette "spin"

  • @streetemup7050
    @streetemup7050 2 года назад

    Nice video. Confirmed my theory I’ve had for ages. It is certainly pre-determined.

  • @ariasgamingcr
    @ariasgamingcr 2 года назад +1

    All things in the game: 😁
    Roulettes: ☠

  • @chronicinsomnia
    @chronicinsomnia 2 года назад +1

    It should be a daily car like GT Sport.
    Good or bad at least you get something useful. I would prefer 50 karts to 5000 credits

  • @crunchytaco7734
    @crunchytaco7734 2 года назад +1

    WOW!!!!! That’s just messed up. I wish i thought of doing this. I always get the smallest amount of money. Going to have to try this tonight. Great video. New here.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Thanks 🙌🙌🙌

  • @nightdriver7216
    @nightdriver7216 2 года назад

    It's random, but at the time of generation. For example, game decides to give you a 3-star ticket, then it picks from the 3-star prizes and among these the prize you'll win. Then it generates a ticket.
    The random part has already happened even before you win the ticket. You win coins most of the time because the odds are terrible.

  • @LuckyDT
    @LuckyDT Год назад +1

    I just wish they would remove the illusion of chance being a part of your reward.

  • @LudwigRuderstaller
    @LudwigRuderstaller 2 года назад

    The explanation is quite easy actually. the price you will receive is selected when the ticket itself is generated. with a high chance for the lowest price and slighty higher chance of the other prices. the animation itself isnothing more than that - an animation. what you win was selected in the moment you received the ticket.

  • @VINAYAKSONI007
    @VINAYAKSONI007 2 года назад

    Ty for making in-depth video on it! Game needs an update & random algorithms for reward and not just stick to same less amount of money.

  • @nexornator
    @nexornator 2 года назад +2

    I confirm this too, when I see the lowest amount for those stars count cards i definitely know is going to be the lowest coin count I will get No random at all , sadly the in game monetary system is created in such way it pushes you to buy credits with your own money, and because of this I dont feel bad glitching to obtain high amounts of cash elsewhere in the game.

    • @nss_BoB
      @nss_BoB 2 года назад

      just drive tomahawk for hour a day and you will have no issues with money.

  • @The_BenboBaggins
    @The_BenboBaggins 2 года назад +2

    I've got very little motivation to play the game right now. the roulette thing is the tip of the iceberg really

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад +1

      Really sorry to hear that man. I miss running and streaming lobbies for this community too

    • @The_BenboBaggins
      @The_BenboBaggins 2 года назад

      @@Kireth it's a real shame that PD seem to have abandoned what was a great formula for online gaming - I really feel they could easily have copy pasted GT Sport's multiplayer, daily races and time trials into GT7 without losing anything from the single player game.
      I don't understand why we couldn't have the best of both worlds for both sets of Gran Turismo fans?

  • @mo7sino575
    @mo7sino575 2 года назад +1

    This doesn’t prove that it’s pre determined unless many more tests has been done. In my opinion, I just think that the lowest prize has the highest probability percentage of you getting it.

    • @VancouverCanucksRock
      @VancouverCanucksRock 2 года назад

      So, uh, that's not how Roulette works.....Esp when there's only ONE sh++e prize. That means the chances are LOW that you get that prize. Uh, but ok.....

  • @DavidDolinsky95
    @DavidDolinsky95 2 года назад

    It doesn’t prove the game is programmed to give you the worst reward, this just suggests that the reward always comes with the ticket and the other possible rewards are just placeholders.
    You should do this with a ticket that gives you a car or an engine to see what happens, altough it’ll probably still give you the same reward.

  • @anengineerandacat
    @anengineerandacat 2 года назад

    My own theory is that the roulette is a pre-determined reward, X-coins, , and likely because the car list availability will be modified it needs to be randomized (unsure if this would apply also to the car part, guessing the roulette tier determines whether it even has that as an option). It doesn't make sense for it to be retried because players will just take advantage of that until they get what they want so all rewards are "locked in" to some extent.
    What would be curious to see is if the ticket was pre-allocated a car, if it would keep the specific car or if you could re-roll it.

  • @labounti
    @labounti 2 года назад +1

    I've never gotten anything better than the lowest prize.

  • @Ihelpanytime
    @Ihelpanytime 2 года назад

    the spins vary but the reward is always the same because once you acquire the ticket the prize is already decided

  • @EmTekTube
    @EmTekTube 2 года назад

    The fact that these are also limited to one per day makes the pitiful odds such a slap in the face 🤦‍♂️

  • @Filmore1991
    @Filmore1991 Год назад

    I wish they'd bring it back to where the roulette was just cars only and in hopes they they'll soon add a feature where you can buy a engine to swap into another car to make it faster, rather than relying on the roulette system.

  • @alanmartin256
    @alanmartin256 Год назад

    At least you're getting the prize, went on today and never even recieved it after the daily mileage was acheived!

  • @HXV230
    @HXV230 2 года назад

    In my two months play, I have gotten a majority the lowest prize. 2 cars, 1 engine, 2 parts. I am glad to take anything free for just playing the game daily. I also hope they allow selling cars again.

  • @bryan34wable
    @bryan34wable 2 года назад +1

    Would like to see this same test done but when a better prize is awarded, like a car or gold bar.

  • @ichitaka05
    @ichitaka05 2 года назад +1

    I tried same tactic. 21 out of 21 I got a same… aka lowest credit. Question I wanna know is, is it same for if we win a parts or car?

  • @hrlm-hn8hw
    @hrlm-hn8hw 2 года назад

    I got my hundreth car by a roulette ticket. The earned trophy notification showed up, as soon as i clicked the roulette ticket. So the rewared is definitely fixed to the tickez!

  • @FandomClips1
    @FandomClips1 Месяц назад +1

    Can you please do a video about daily marathons and how to get the rewards

  • @Slyfox1775
    @Slyfox1775 Год назад +1

    On lvl 34 and I’ve only got the smallest amount of coins . Except a few times . Never got the top reward .

  • @m4gnet1
    @m4gnet1 2 года назад

    Prior to 1.13 I got: Coyote Engine, 2x Silivia engines, Lvl 5 Weight reduction for GTR safety car, carbon prop shaft for BAC Mono, 917 Living Legend, Hellcat, Zonda, and a bunch of other stuff. It felt like every 3-5 spins was something random with the rest of the spins being the lowest possible pay out.
    Since the last patch I have received the lowest pay out on every single ticket. Now I don't know if they changed something or if I was just lucky with the spins before but it 100% feels different to me.

  • @my951films
    @my951films 9 месяцев назад

    Just started playing the game three days ago. I believe I’ve gotten seven different tickets and every single time the prize is always the least amount of coins. Very frustrating.

  • @jakerubino3233
    @jakerubino3233 2 года назад +1

    I’ve been experimenting by pressing different buttons on the controller as I confirm opening the ticket and I’m finding that I can get an unusual sound at the start of the normal roulette effects and each time I’m getting decent prizes. This is only about a 1/3 of the time and it’s generally the D-pad buttons triggering it, but there’s no pattern I can discern as of yet. Just the sound alone was enough to peak my curiosity and the resulting better than crap prize was the kicker. I believe there’s something to this but will need to have a larger data set to know with more confidence. A lot like Mario Kart starting lights/beep turboboost secret.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Hmm at the time of opening?

    • @jakerubino3233
      @jakerubino3233 2 года назад

      @@Kireth so literally as I’ve pressed the X button to confirm I’m pressing one of the D pad buttons as the X is lifted.

  • @epichobo2
    @epichobo2 2 года назад

    It isn't pre determined, it's percentage based so the worth of the price affects the percentage of likelihood of winning it, and so the cheapest option is the one you're most likely to get. The 5,000 coins prize is by far the cheapest and so you're almost guaranteed to get that, but if say you get a spin with an engine swap and the others are cars, you'll win the engine swap as it is the cheapest and therefore the most likely prize.
    In my personal experience, I've had good luck with the spins, and I honestly don't mind getting the 5,000 coins as it is the one you should expect, and weighing expectations on winning something better is unrealistic.

  • @xxxzeal
    @xxxzeal 2 года назад

    Yes,this is very true.
    I open 16 tickets and always got the smallest amount of coins.

  • @shanewright9489
    @shanewright9489 2 года назад +1

    I don’t even bother with it anymore. It’s a complete waste of time and the developers should be ashamed

  • @ericvang92
    @ericvang92 2 года назад +1

    I actually haven’t gotten anything above 3 stars since I finish the menu book, and all has been the smallest amount of money….

  • @saNy870
    @saNy870 2 года назад

    I had another experience that confirms this. When I got the trophy for 100 cars it automatically popped out the instant I clicked on the roulette ticket and that was when I realized it was a predetermined outcome

  • @trumpisacrybabydictatornar914
    @trumpisacrybabydictatornar914 Год назад +1

    I don’t understand why Gran Turismo seven chooses to play dirty tricks like this unless somehow they think we’ll get so frustrated that we will spend real money in their store to buy cars . Gran Turismo seven is turning out to be the most frustrating Gran Turismo game I’ve ever played

  • @Tascore_
    @Tascore_ 2 года назад

    i won a car on the roulette ticket and it was my 100th car. the second i clicked the ticket i got the trophy, before anything even showed on the screen and started spinning

  • @powerpaul1423
    @powerpaul1423 2 года назад +1

    Great video. They need to see this.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Thanks Paul, feel free to share!

  • @georhdiaz
    @georhdiaz Год назад

    Agree, just give us the reward. There's no need for the false prizes when it's predetermined Or make the probability 20% if it is roulette table with 5 options. I noticed that like 3 in that you always get the lowest prize. Very disappointing.

  • @Mike-1000
    @Mike-1000 2 года назад +1

    *Long live the Tomohawk* is the best way to look at this, keep banging it before that gets fixed !!!

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Long live our gracious Tomahawk

    • @Mike-1000
      @Mike-1000 2 года назад

      @@Kireth Hip hip... hooooorayyy haha

  • @tjkern9880
    @tjkern9880 2 года назад +1

    What about the penalties during a race.
    What kind of race in real life causes you to slow down for certain time during the race???
    OR
    Do races usually just add the penalty time on to your final racing time???

    • @lordspalse0062
      @lordspalse0062 2 года назад

      What a foolish game! They did the same thing with Driveclub.

  • @CreativGaming
    @CreativGaming 2 года назад +1

    i liked it in sport when they actually gave you cars

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 года назад

      Miss it now!

  • @joshuaalvarez9796
    @joshuaalvarez9796 2 года назад

    Hopefully they fix this soon!!! Such bs that EVERY TIME I choose a ticket, it is the LOWEST amount!!!

  • @deionsabino7497
    @deionsabino7497 2 года назад

    I actually got a GR3 car at the beginning of the game. After that, it was just the smallest amount of coins or car parts.

  • @oxoK9999oxo
    @oxoK9999oxo 2 года назад +2

    GT7 is the first GT game I've bought since GT4 and these roulette tickets are the dumbest addition and should honestly just be removed. Just keep the game simple.

    • @oxoK9999oxo
      @oxoK9999oxo 2 года назад

      @near sighted time traveler I got in on the beta for GT Sport and I've been doing some of the daily races on GT7. The online races are really good and the penalty system for the most part has been fair. I want to get a wheel before I really dive into the multiplayer though.

  • @motherlodegt3887
    @motherlodegt3887 2 года назад

    They should show the actual probabilities. Because you see 5 rewards, you expect to have 20% chance for each. They should put under each reward the percentage. Like 3% for a car, 5% for a part, 85% chance for the lowest amount of money.

  • @gator5531
    @gator5531 2 года назад

    Yeah I done this over a month ago. Prizes will be different but always got the lowest prize on the same ticket. After 20 times on the same ticket I concluded it's predetermined.