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The best camera angle is the one you are most comfortable with.
Seriously lmao. For folks going on about oh it’s a simulator it should be x y z. How about it’s what we are comfortable with.
I agree but I've also find myself switching up with doing the test bc I'm having problems passing some of them on gold. It's crazy bc in gt sport I didn't have near the problem
I haven't got around to buying a PS5 yet, but now I've retired. I'm thinking of getting one to keep my brain active.
Based on my experience of earlier GT games, there's nothing wrong with using 3rd person whilst you're getting used to the cars/tracks, and then switching to cockpit to really try out the driver experience.
But yes, use whichever camera you are happy with.
simply wrong
from a driving perspective every cam is better than 3rd person if you wanna be more precise, consistent and fast
I use the cockpit view. At its heart Gran Turismo is a racing simulation after all, not an arcade game. In my opinion GT7 should make some competition and options for lobbies with the option to lock the view.
Option to lock the controller as well.
I second this. VR only lobbies, and controller and view only lobbies would really help people set up consistent and fair racing.
it's cute that you think GT7 is a racing sim😂
Cobblers.
@@Stroker-Z28 it’s pretty close to it now with a DD wheel and VR. I prefer it to iRacing and AC now.
I prefer the front bumper cam, but I have no need for the rear view mirror... since everyone is in front of me 😭😭
😂 😂
Cockpit view for me since I play GT7 only on VR. Sure its more difficult sometimes to see what's going on around me and perhaps I would be faster with other views but the feeling of being there is just more important for me.
This is the purpose of the game!
There's always the track radar which shows a close up of the cars positions around you.
I have been using hood cam almost my entire life. Both with wheel and controller, about a month ago i desided to try cockpit view, and from first lap i had a way better feeling of the car
Bumper cam will always be quicker, but same for me. I'm 8 tenths quicker a lap in bumper cam, but there is no way I'm using any other view aside from cockpit view. I play for the realism. If pace is sacrificed, it's ok with me.
@@gseric4721 To me, it depends on a few things. For maximum competitiveness, yes, the bumper cam is one of the best (I like the hood cam for a higher angle to view the road ahead better).
When I'm doing a slower race with a beautiful car, I'll do third person. I like to look at my beautiful cars in action sometimes, and without having to watch any replays.
Cockpit. Depth -5, hight 5, offset angle, and type 2.
Takes a sec to get used to the offset. If you can move your seat or tv to adjust it really helps but you will find a lot of pace with this camera settings once your adjusted
I like the bumper cam - not only because of the mirror, but because all of the info is neatly arranged in the middle. I don't have to glance off to the side to check the radar for example
The centralization of the info is my reasoning too, as well as mirror
VR no hud with a steering wheel is my favorite. I just enjoy the driving experience more than any other view.
Hardcore with no HUD my friend 😎 I wish there was a little more wheel data on the GT3 cars and then I’d switch off the HUD too on daily races
@@markbooth I wish they had a hot key to turn the hud off and on. Need access to the fuel map, for fuel managed races, and its also nice to get an idea of when you need to change to wets or slicks with dynamic weather.
@@jr260cc5 the weather radar is needed for those races sadly, although I wish they’d remove the track wetness gauge entirely and make drivers feel grip levels and the need to change tyres.
VR for me, I’m still on controller though and hoping to get a wheel later this year. I wouldn’t argue that it makes me any quicker, but I love the level of immersion it seems to give me, plus it’s given me more appreciation of the cars somehow. I was doing Nurburgring earlier today and noticed the mist rising in a dip, I was so flipping immersed, that I spun off the track.
You can never go back to last Gen racing once you’ve felt VR lol. The car interiors are pointless in 2D game mode but absolutely incredible in VR as you have to learn all the steering wheel data and rev counters on GT3 cars
VR is the ultimate if you ask me. Total immersion.
@@BoulderBum now if only I could get a motion system for my rig and use it on PS5… it can be done but only with a PC attached sadly.
I am almost exclusively doing VR cockpit and only take the occasional break out of VR while charging my haptics vest. And until I can afford a wheel, I have exclusively used the gyroscope steering on the controller instead of the joysticks or buttons. Using that mode you really want cockpit view in case you oversteer and the hand position resets. You can see when that happens. It happens far less for me these days as I get more experienced.
I always use the hood/roof view because it is easier to spot braking points, allowing me to do constant lap times and if a crash occurred ahead. I would spot it quicker so I have plenty of time to react.
Cockpit view should be mandatory in sport mode. More small mistakes, cleaner battles as you can use your mirrors & more fun.
How are battles cleaner when you can't see half the car? They would be worse in fact, and I don't want them getting any worse than they are now
@@KepleroGT because you can exactly see what move the car behind is doing & anticipate sooner.
Fov adjustment should be mandatory in games that claim to be the real driving sim too.
@@KepleroGT I think Sport is a mess because of two reasons, one a broken penalty system, and two no real damage to cars. The result is that a driver can drive dirty, get away with it and still finish well.
If you are on a wheel, checking the mirrors is pretty much impossible
I have always used cockpit view and have won GTWS Championships doing it so its not necessarily the slowest view. Couple days ago I got a VR so now I'm just adjusting to that.
I pretty much only use cockpit view in VR when racing . I have a much better feel for the car which I reckon makes up for the reduced vision. The immersion in GT7 VR can be so good, especially in open wheelers. I ordered the VR2 and have raved with it almost exclusively ever since. I just can’t drive without it now. 🤩🤩🤩
Gentlemen remember, YOU paid $70 for the game play at whatever camera YOU prefer... Gatekeepers hate having fun and want to ruin the fun for everyone else
I wish GT7 allowed Cockpit view but closer up where you don’t see the steering wheel especially when you’re issuing a steering wheel to play the game. Forza, ACC and other racers have that option.
There is and it’s the one I prefer to use. Only shows the hud and what’s in front of you.
@@sasinhkatanyarat583He's referring to a cockpit view with no visible wheel or hands.
Ever since the day Psvr2 was released, I only play in Vr, before that it was cockpit view, I bought a "SIM RIG" to Play a "Racing Simulator" so the realistic view is the only viable one in my opinion. But I appreciate everyone has their preference. Maybe one day I'll strap myself to the bumper or bootlid of my Boxster S and give it a blast along a back road. I get that the cockpit view has its restrictions but then again there are so many cars that I have driven that have A-Pillars that I swear were designed to cause and accident.
Playing this game in VR with a wheel setup is on another level.
I used to use bumper cam in GTS (not the roof cam which he also called bumper cam), but since switching to cockpit cam in GT7 the level of satisfaction and enjoyment has rocketed, when you can see the cars next to you or just in front of you from within the cockpit when you're racing close, the sense of immersion is immense which makes it so much more enjoyable, can only imagine how good VR must be
Nothing beats the cockpit view
hood view is the best, but it is at times confusing when some hood camera sits more to the roof and some more to the front. I personally prefer it to be placed just in front of the roof. The only problem is that there is no mirror when you have to race others (AI or people).
Easier to track crash bandicoot next to me
Kireth you can adjust your distance and height in cockpit on psvr2, when you recentre the camera holding the options button lean forward to be further back or more forward for the opposite effect, also if your too high lean up a bit gives you more height
I use cockpit view in every racing sim. Authentic
That’s something about gt7 I was hoping they were going to fix. I was hoping for more options when it comes to cockpit view. Like ACC has.
Every since grand torismo come out 25 years ago I always drove on bumper cam. It’s amazing and I was always fast in that view. But since getting a ps5 and gt7 I’ve been getting used to cockpit cam as I race in psvr2 always. It’s so amazing in vr. I’ve never looked back since getting the vr2. I absolutely love it.
I understand leaving the option for people, but in sport mode it probably should be a locked cockpit view if they want it to be a "real racing simulator"
I like 3rd person and Bumper view. These pointer and training vids really help. I broke the 2min barrier at Trial Mountain yesterday, as well as posting in the mid to low 2's and it's because of video's like this one. Thanks Kireth
Nice one man!!
I play 3rd person with a controller. I always have since GT1. However, I’ve recently switched to the GT DD Pro and I run the bumper view now. It gives you a very wide view. I also love the tachometers and the way the HUD is presented. It also has the best sound for the cars. I run a 7.1 Dolby Atmos surround sound system and it screams in this view. The only drawback is the limited view when going up hills. You can get around this by memorizing the tracks though.
You should try to make a comparison test between each. Like how much the steering and brakes and handling changes from view to view. I bet it's at least 20% gain on the bumper cam lol
Cockpit view…of course
But in game cockpit view adjustability is VERY limited.
I dont understand why 🙄
both bumper cams. in particular the one with mirror. With time you get a sense of the width of your car and also has less distractions... although for tracks with lots of elevations, its hard to see some apexes...
Used to use cockpit view standalone, past month I been using bumper with no mirror, when not in PSVR2 ( more and more VR lately)
And getting QUICK too!!
I cant comment, only reply.. 🤣😃 but I literally hate when ppl using roof view...and I know why..but I rather have my mirror on then use the radar or look back...but since im only racing on vr, there is no more choice 😅
???How do you get that tire temp gauge??? Also, if I'm not playing VR, 3rd person is my favorite...
@Kireth would also love to learn how you get that information
Roof view is the way to go imo. Bumper view is the next best but for me it’s too low to the ground. Roof cam gives nice overview therefore gives me the best feel for track and vehicle dimensions.
Cockpit may offer the least advantage, but I love it for the immersion. I'd use 3rd person more if the camera wasn't so "stiff (?)" and the fact that the car itself always blocks my view of the road, especially on hills. Might try the hood camera sometime, but I don't like the bumper cam, I need at least some frame of reference between my car and the road.
You can adjust camera stiffness for 3rd person
Visuals, sound and immersion is best on cockpit. So i only drive that view, but its slightly slower and sometimes its harder to see.
I was always a 3rd person player in racing games like forza and so on. I picked this up recently and found using bumper/hood view much more easier and faster race with.
When I’m not using the hood cam I like the cockpit view, but I use the offset one where the rear view and driver side mirrors are more in your pov. It took some getting used to but its better than the normal cockpit pov imo
I agree completely with you on the views, that's why I never use third, but bonnet view. Only thing chase is good for is seeing when I've completely passed cars
Great video mate, very helpful, thankyou, answered a lot of my questions
I like bumper cam for precision and better visual feel of the road, and chase cam for gamemodes where u have to bump into cars, and cockpit view for vr only since immersion is the goal
I use cockpit view, but might try bumper to see if I get more speed.
Hi, I just came across your channel with the keywords cockpit seen! Personally, I drive in a cockpit in racing as in Cruz! I feel more confident than on the hood! I even push the thing by activating oscillation 2. Camera movements 🎥 more realistic. In VR it must be insane!
I use cockpit view myself but I'm torn between the offset angle or the default. I like how the default angle you can see out the side of your driver side but the offset angle you see your entire front window
Offset is not great for driving in imo!!
Been using the same cam as you since Gt5. Havent switched since. Use it for the exact same reasons. Up close n personal with the ability to still see the front sides of my car.
Bonnet cam hands down , the one with a bit of bonnet or "hood" then camera view, love it
Front bumper view here. Like the location of instrumentation and rearview mirror. Would use cockpit view, but don't like seeing a wheel on the screen in front of my rig wheel. VR, which I don't use that much anymore due to VR sickness... cockpit view makes complete sense and works.
Cockpit view isn't just a camera option, it's a way of life.
I used third person when I first started playing. When I got a wheel I started using the bumper cam where only the speedo showed. Mostly for the rear view mirror. The hood cam would probably have been better but no rear view. Recently using vr. I hope they add the leader board with the split times. It is nice to know where everyone is.
I totally agree on the view ahead on track being easier in 3rd person. I use the bumper view mostly when using my wheel set-up. Sometimes i have to change to the top of the hood view(roof) when I'm having difficulties seeing corners up ahead, and when elevations change going into corners. I've used cockpit view a few times, but without the VR headset, or a big TV screen, it's very limiting on what you're able to see.
Love the video man. Thanks for having the backs of the "other" guys lol
Honestly, it kinda depends on the car. The hood camera is probably my preferred option, but depending on the car, cockpit view is more than worth it. Number cam is cool also. It all comes down to preference!
Best camera settings for me: Cockpit View Height: 5 Depth: -5 Wobbling Type 2. Chase View Camera Sensitivity 1; Chase View Rotation Axis Offset: 0; Chase View Type: Near
I used cockpit unless it’s a very fast car then I use bumper. Great advice!
I’m with the bonnet/hood. I used to do 3rd person and then cockpit and still cockpit with some road cars because visibility seems to be better but first time in a gr1 or a super formula I forget which I switched to bonnet and it’s the best combo of visibility, precision and feel for me.
Since trying VR I have to say I like the driver view a lot more now. I dislike that there's no digital speedo though for cars that have been swapped
I race in VR running a 3 dof soon to be 4 dof motion platform I built and it’s awesome. My friend likes it so much I made one for him too
awesome man!!
I like cockpit view the most but for some cars and in some challenges I switch to the bumper cam for more overview.
i use psvr2, you can adjust were you are in the car with centering your view - center a little lower then you'll be and you'll be higher (pausing game required), i can not go back to tv but then again i'm not really a racer, I only race for money, i use the clutch and 6 gear shifter as often as possible unless the car in game uses steering shifting, But i love to cruise with a buddy in a party and do stuns like 180s
I wish polyphony would add field of view adjustments similar to Acc I like cockpit view simply for the realism
Dimmer switch for gauges *!
Great video! Love your GT7 content. Third person is like driving an RC car. I hate third person but it is fastest especially when doing 1 lap times. I'm in VR2 so my only view is cockpit, and I love it as I am only interested in real SIM. Cheers!
I enjoy 3rd person because I like to see what I’m driving as well as appreciating the vehicle physics on the tracks.
My 2nd preferred cam is without a doubt, the roof can. I’m able to see the hood of the car which is cool and recognizable of what I’m driving. It also gives me a good view of what’s in front of me.
Cockpit cam is also great and very immersive. However, visibility is just too limited.
I feel that you're very knowledgeable about gt7 and i need some advise. I'm having trouble with the licenses test. So what setting or camera do you recommend? Thanks
Why not rotate through the cameras? For track limits third person can be helpful
In Cockpit, always adjust your seat for max visibility. And yes he's right. Not enough adjustments. In VR, you have to find the sweet spot by moving around, resetting driving position. But now it's limited...
I use the cockpit view and its helped with my driving irl. I just got my licence too
Bumper and bonnet for fast laptimes and races, but cockpit for fun and to admire the interiors.
I like to race vintage/old cars in cockpit view, or the Renault RS1 /GT Sport and GT7) or Mercedes 300 SEL. Would love to set in the Lobby "Cockpit view only", for the fun.
F1 i always use roof looking down, I get better apex accuracy, however I use bumper on gt7 as I like the information centre of screen, better d pad control experience, I have used cockpit but some of the vgt type cars are a bit crap for visibility
Third person because of the wider field of view.
When nasty drivers are trying to ram me, I can usually see them setting up and try to avoid them.
When I watch motorsports we view the event, usually not from the in car camera.
When I'm watching, I'm learning.
W i do the same thing for this exact reason
The corners are hard enough to see when you're racing an F1, I can't imagine trying to play in first person with that kind of speed.
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Thanks man!!
been driving since my wife died
18 months ago. I am always alone sol i juust drive
I have been a 3rd person driver for the past 25 years as a casual gamer who always played racing games for fun and wasn't a hardcore sim racer. That all changed when I fired up the PSVR2 a couple months ago with the Woojer Vest 3 and IEM headphones. So much fun and the killer VR app that changes everything! I am now so hooked that I plan to save up for a wheel, seat, and pedals. I think it is entirely possible to overcome most the downfalls you mentioned why you don't recommend the VR view. Some cars are worse than others with visibility. But with killer immersion of sound and haptics that rattle your core, the fun factor goes up exponentially. I have also exclusively used the gyroscope steering with a dual sense pro controller since I don't have a wheel. The only time I don't play in VR is when the Haptic Vest needs a charge and then I switch to Third person. I have a 144hz monitor so I get a visual upgrade. Still would trade that visual upgrade 100% of the time for being in the cockpit of these amazing vehicles.
Kireth, you can adjust the up, down back and forth in psvr. However it has to be done in game which is annoying. Something’s they put me to close the wheels and I adjust to move back
You forgot the one I use. The in between bumper hood roof and cockpit view. I call it the window view with a rear view mirror at the top (Can see nothing but the road). Been using it through all the GT games. Almost the same view as the bumper cam.
Recently started flipping between Cockpit and roof cams. In cockpit view, wish it had more field of view to be able to look through the turns, especially in the hairpins. Love the in car cam for the realism, but for me, roof cam for better situational awareness.
As a pad player, I've got so much to say on this, I mainly use first person view with the mirror, however sometimes i use bonnet view at tracks like Bathurst and Tokyo Expressway when you need to use the extremities of the circuit, I use chase cam in Forza Horizon, FM and Driveclub Dashcam is the best cam in Driveclub its truely brilliant in the wet weather you should try that. I've tried using chase cam in GTS/GT7 it just loses all the immersion for me. Super GT used to get all sorts of flack for using chase cam in GTS/GT7.
VR is where it's at for me, hate the lack of HUD, like time between cars and pit stops but the emersion is unparalleled
In flatscreen, bumper cam right on the front bumper, not hood view. WIth the camera near the deck, you also get the great mirror.
But.... these days I race in VR2 exclusively. I agree with you, it's FoV is more limited, but damn, it is immersive.
VR has to be the future!!
I use bumper cam, for the immersion without the cockpit clutter taking up the screen. There is so much sensation and sense missing driving in GT Vs real life, I feel 3rd person view makes up for that. Where you might feel a real car over or under rotate you might not sense that in bumper/cockpit view but you could see that in 3rd person view. Also navigating traffic, the 3rd person view better replicates your senses than the cut down bumper or cockpit view.
I always drive in cockpit view. But if i can absolutely not can win the race (for example Autopolis Formule at the moment) I wil drive whit the camera at the top of the roof . Becaus there are so many curves , you can not see who is on your left ore right site.
Outside car view for me 3 person, just suits me but if honest I love it. It shows you everything but if honest cockpit looks like the time beating one...
When I play single mode I always used cockpit view. When I do online races I have to change to front bumper to stay competitive.
Thanks for sharing your views 🙏☺️
I use a mix of all different camera views. My favorite even though it kind of makes me struggle is hood view. However if say I'm doing daily races I'll likely be in third person view so I can juke people who want to ram. My juking ability has been worked on for some years while racing on gta. And because of this I've placed very high in racing lobbies.
I use the bumper cam. I would use the cockpit view, except that the extra pair of hands in front of me is a distraction. I don't think anyone is using the "wrong" view, so long as they choose the one that works best for them personally.
i would use the view u use if it had a mirror. i wish they had a few more views especially a better in cockpit view, it ACC there are like 2 or 3 in car views that u can adjust to
Bumper cam will easily be the quickest out of all camera angles, as you know exactly where to place the car on apex entry/exit. I play for realism, though. Even if I'm 1-2 seconds off the pace of the fastest guys in the world in cockpit mode, it doesn't matter to me. I want to get the full experience. And it makes me happy to know that if I'm a bumper cam driver, I'm easily into the top 2% in the world, and in some cases, in the top 1%.
I agree completely. Excellent.
excellent....
Cockpit cam all the way. It's just far less immersive otherwise.
When I was playing GT7 I tried to do cockpit view but without FOV adjustments it was annoying. Just feels to arcadey to me unless using that view.
If they had the same wobble cam for the hood view to see the elevation and camber view n the track would be nice
Btw do you wear gloves when racing on the G pro ?I used to because my first TM wheel was alcantara and you had to wear them so got used to racing like that but have recently swithed to no gloves and much more comfortable for long sessions .I only run mine at 7 or 8 nm tho with minimal trueforce
no gloves bro
First person camera to me to race normal, and 3rd person for drift.
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I use the “bumper” view with the mirror, but it’s not on the bumper. It’s higher up and further back, which you can tell when you’re right behind someone. I would guess it’s either supposed to be at the bottom of the windscreen or kind of two thirds of the way up the bonnet. I feel it gives the best view of the road, the rear view mirror is essential and the MFD is centred on the screen, which makes it much easier to change brake balance/traction control/fuel mapping without taking your attention away from the road. If you compare it to bumper cam on other sims/games you’ll notice the difference in position of the camera.
Hood ornament view
Only play in VR so cockpit for me but would also go cockpit on flatscreen. Don’t like being placed on the outside of the car. Too arcady for me
Only cockpit. Now where is that HUD-toggle?
We need it!
@@Kireth No bæ. The lost logical and sinmple thing so inportant, even more so after VR, and it isn't there. They have been drinking petrol.
In car with VR, no doubt! Just wish we have the info we need to do the online races efficiently. Despite that I still race in VR!
When I do longer races I need the hud on tho. I lose track of the lap and don’t know when to pit
I prefer and play only with VR cockpit view. YEs it's missing some key hud elements like ranking, like lap times...etc but it's the most realistic view. When you get this experience, it's really difficult to go back to the flat view.
You can adjust the height and field of vision in GT. It’s on the option menu
I am JUST now downloading this game on disc. It’s taken all day, but now I have an two hours and thirty-eight minutes, but in actuality, it’s at 29 minutes left of installation. I think I’ll get to play this game tomorrow.
U are going to be scammed after couple of plays, Sony bugged my GT7 as well as 15 physical games, because Sony and Microsoft are updating system software with a virus malware bug stopping some physical games from working intentionally forcing users to buy digital games since ps4, good luck 👍
No one can say anything unless they drive cockpit view! I use chase came. I can’t remember the last time I see someone driving down the road on their bonnet or sitting on their front bumper… people get pulled into this “bumper cam is the best” but you can’t see around you… I’m Top 100’ish every week in 3rd person chase cam. I do stiffen up the camera so it doesn’t rotate also, and go to close view 👌🙌
Anyone that has ever driven a real car in real life knows that the cockpit view isn't what the view is because you need to have 3 screens to have the actual view you would have. In VR cockpit is probably legit, not in VR it's 1000% unrealistic, period.
The angle above the hood on the roof sort of a go pro esk u have to have great depth perception in this view though
My problem with the hood cam (apart from not having a mirror) is that the radar and setting is on the right instead of the middle, don't like that.
Do laptimes with the different views and see how much it actually impacts
Bumper is faster usually