Thank you all for engaging in this discussion. I want to address the topic of xenophobia since many South Africans feel triggered by my assessment. Firstly, born and raised in Germany, I see many similarities regarding xenophobia between both countries. However, in Germany, as in South Africa, the issue isn’t the migrants themselves, but the mismanagement of resources and the failure of the government to address these problems. What’s troubling is that rather than holding the government accountable, people often attack the weakest and most vulnerable-the migrants. This is plain wrong!!! Let me also clarify that I am not excusing illegal immigration or the breaking of laws. However, it’s important to recognize that in both Germany and South Africa, the legal immigration processes are deeply flawed. Many people who migrate do so out of desperation, and the reality is that the systems in place make it nearly impossible for them to follow the legal route. This is something we should hold the government accountable for, not the migrants who are simply trying to find a better life. What is most concerning is how people respond to illegal immigration. This is where human rights come into play. In any society, the way you handle challenges speaks to your values and respect for humanity. Violent attacks, burning shops down, and killing migrant workers show a complete disregard for basic human rights. Whether someone is documented or not, they deserve to be treated with dignity. Regarding Chidimma, bullying a 23-year-old woman online for crimes she did not commit goes against our shared values of respect and humanity. Period! Lastly, I understand that there are deep concerns in South Africa, and I empathize with the frustration over unemployment and lack of resources. But attacking migrants-whether they are legal or undocumented-is not the solution. It’s about how we treat people in the most difficult situations that truly reflects the values of a nation. South Africa has a long history of fighting for human rights, and we should never lose sight of that.
You never have a think piece or solutions for the countries where all these m!grants are running away from just like the runaways themselves, it's like you don't want anything to improve there,,,,,,South Africa is not Germany.
For fear of becoming a troll, this will be my last comment! Just wanna say we will not apologise for defending the future of our children. I don’t care so much about documented or not though those who do are correct. What I care about is the livelihood of my family and those around me. Yes we have a problem of corruption and bribery in our government and law enforcement and if you know something about us is that we take action against those South Africans as well “there are protests every week in South Africa fighting against that. So in the same light we cannot allow others to do wrong because they are foreigners!!! How do you respect someone human right who does not respect your human rights? My stance which will remain unchanged whether I’m called xenophobic or not is: -If you sell drugs to my children and I report it and nothing happens to you! I will do whatever is in my power to protect my children (If you are a parent you know what I mean) - If you sell toxic and expired foods to my children and I report and nothing happens to you! I will burn down your store. If you cannot comprehend these two points above, then maybe you should choose another country to stay because you be disappointed. We will not stop defending our livelihoods period. There are still thousands of Ethiopians owning stores here is South Africa (I buy from one everyday) and we live gracefully with them because they do nothing wrong. But all the bad elements we will root them. And you know in all fairness South Africa is a very kind place to immigrants, our laws allow opportunities to everyone immigrants or not. In fact it is one of the most welcoming places in Africa that is the reason why even with the bad publicity those who know South Africa as yourself do not want to leave as compared to the experiences in other African countries. Ethiopia for example: I have been to Addis and Lalibela in 2019 and in the 7 days I was there, I have never even seen ONE SHOP owned by a foreign national🤷🏾♂️ that in itself says a lot about how Ethiopian laws are designed accommodate foreigners🤔 I do understand why your view of South Africa on this topic is a little harsh! It is obviously tainted by your Nigerian influence. Hence you refuse to acknowledge that there was illegal activity with Chidima’s saga therefore she should not be allowed to represent us. Her parents failed her, NOT South Africans
Dear Mrs Plan B, Thank you for the informative video on South Africa and Kenya. Your analysis was insightful, but you briefly touched on a sensitive issue: xenophobia, which has now sparked a heated debate in your comment section. I respect your attempt to clarify your perspective, but comparing Germany's migrant challenges to South Africa’s is somewhat misplaced. I won’t delve into the nuanced differences between xenophobia in Germany and South Africa, but I will say this: migration in South Africa has evolved into an organised syndicate, supported not just by governments but also by corporate interests, as well as wealthy and middle-class South Africans through the demand for cheap labor. An incompetent government certainly exacerbates this crisis, but it doesn’t change the reality that migration is a ticking time bomb here. The issue with us, so-called "clever blacks," is assuming that impoverished township communities, who bear the brunt of this crisis, have the luxury to intellectualise what is, for them, a life-or-death situation. I agree with you on the importance of upholding basic human rights. Violence is never the answer, but try telling that to someone who is living in extreme poverty, with their only hope being young adults reliant on government institutions like public hospitals, clinics, schools, and welfare grants. Parents are watching their children grapple with drug addiction (often linked to foreign nationals) and alcohol abuse as a means of coping with the lack of opportunities. Given all this, it's clear that the migrant issue in Germany is not comparable to the one in South Africa. In my view, the German situation is more cultural, whereas ours is deeply tied to economic, political, and organized criminal syndicates funded by foreign governments. I could go on, but perhaps you should consider hosting a live-stream discussion on RUclips. I'd be happy to participate and even help organize it, so you can hear more about the deeper issues facing South Africans. Once again, I fully support respecting basic human rights. We must find a peaceful way to address this issue. I believe South Africans are, by nature, peaceful people, but I cannot tell someone in desperation how to behave when their survival is at stake. Instincts take over when one is pushed to the limit. Look at Palentine and Isreal, including the Russia and Ukrain. You cannot tell me that these people just woke up and went to war, something triggered them and for whatever reasons, they decided to kill and die for what they believe in. It is sad and completely unacceptable, but only an ideal world.
Thanks for those wonderful words and shout out to you too Kenyan people for building your country it's so nice to be LOVED as South Africans because these days we be getting hate for nothing big love 👊🏾👊🏾
I’m South African, besides gems like Botswana and Namibia, if I where to ever leave SA (which I never will, not even for USA) I’d go to Rwanda or kenya
love the people of Kenya and have much respect for its Gen Z, crazy that they look just like us, a dna investigation has to be conducted about bantu expansion/migration
Serious misdiagnosis on SA culture. SA does not have a tribalism issue. We are united in our diversity, and all 9 African/vernacular languages are treated the same... we inter marry, we recognise our African spiritual practices, we practice cultural marriage practices, initiation schools for boys and girls is practised...we are proper Africans who love each other
@@precious5333no we don't. Not since the early 90s, when they were trying to divide and conquer the country. There is absolutely no tribalism in SA. How old are you? lol😂😂😂
I'm also surprised by her flawed sentiments. We're the most Africanized Africans...oh we don't even bear English,French and Arab names as our first names like them .
As a Kenyan I relate more with southern Africa countries than north and west maybe because of culture similarities. S.A is in my list we are coming soon YEBO!!!
as a Kenyan in diaspora am flattered to be even compared to SA. Kenya is a paradise operating way below its potential. For me, there is no city in the world that compares to Cape town. But honestly it is an apples to oranges comparison.
Great video and a wonderful comparison. As an African American that has visited South Africa, the people stole my heart along with an incredible experience, which is why I'm relocating there. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
As a born and raised South African, I’ve been to Europe and lived 15 years of my life working and studying in Canada. I’ve met a lot of people from Somalia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya, Ghana even South Africans in Canada. And they all love and respect South Africa! A year ago I decided to move back to South Africa and it’s been the best decision. There’s so much we take for granted that people else where would die to have in this country! It sometimes feels like we’re extra privileged to have so much of what we have here. I’ll be living in Cape Town soon 😊
@@nonofyourbusiness-q5g Dude your delusional go check your facts, SA GDP 320 billion most of it comes from gold and diamond kenya GDP 130 billion no mineral dependent just high human resource and mix economy.
Have you been to SA? there are places where 80 % of the population live in Cape Town, you wouldnt live there even if you were paid. when people hear South Africa they see Camps bay, forgetting only 0,1 % of the locals live there.
Ma'am, in terms of the Chidima situation, you are completely misinformed. Her mother stole someone's identity in order to register Chidima as a South African. Being born in South Africa does not automatically mean you're a South African.
Regarding Chidimma issue, it was communicated by our Home Affairs office that she didn't obtain her documents legally so the outcry came from the fact that having illegal documents proves that she's not a South African. We wait to get further updates from the government regarding this matter. It is unfair that as South Africans, we have been labeled as Xenophobic because all we want is that those who are here must be here legally. They need to be properly documented.
Nobody said she is an immigrant, but just know before Chidinma there is a woman who lost her Identity to Chidinmas mother and today that woman is still suffering because of the identity stolen by chichi mom but let's not talk to much the law will take its course
@@WWTin2024There's lots of Chidimma' s with her family doing the samething in South Africa.. She's a part of the bigger picture and now the face of it.. The problem is way bigger than you think it is, so let's not fool ourselves
@@WWTin2024Undocumented and illegal Immigrants is a strain on the legal taxpayers in South Africa.. It also invites criminal activities and felons in this country that was never an issue
As someone from the U.K who is keen to make my way back to the continent, this was an incredible piece of content! Very balanced and well researched. Definitely looking forward to more content like this 🌍👍🏿
@@phynnieWell said...Kenya on top....❤❤❤❤❤ Kenya keep on rising... leave no room for comparison.... South Africans....don't embrace their own.....(Black)
I agree with many of the answers and for you it obviously makes much more economic and business sense to settle in ZA especially in regards to low cost start-ups, airfare and school fees.. I also agree that South Africa has better road infra but Kenya doesn't only border lawless Somalia, South Sudan and your country Ethiopia. The road to Ethiopia is actually excellent and makes for epic journeys through Marsabit and Moyale. Road trips to Tanzania and also Uganda are super. Many Kenyans, over 90%, feel more connection to the proper EAC neighbours - Uganda, Tanzania and Rwanda and feel less inclined to travel or connect to the first three countries I mentioned. Many Kenyans like Ethiopia from far though largely due to its imperial history and PanAfricanist stand of HIM Haile Selassie. However, many don't know or understand Ethio's recent politics - post 1974.
I’m Kenyan, and back in the 80’s my dad travelled to South Africa, when all our passports were marked with a notice disallowing us from entry to South Africa. He returned with stories, beautiful postcards etc. My love for South Africa has been unwavering since. I thought about some of the comparison categories in this video and one was the nightlife. What nightlife could I have had as a black teenager in the 80’s in S.A during apartheid? Lowkey glad this woman is leaving Kenya. She rubs me the wrong way. Sorry South Africa, she’s your problem now. Fair warning, she’s an opportunist.
In the next 10years, God-willing Kenya will be really developed (we are currently fixing the system). I hope we will retain our highly hospitalitable nature😊
That's what will mess us up in the future.We open c0untry to pple we have n0thing in c0mmon with & fr0m waring nations,that's a pr0blem.You have f0lk bn here 30plus yrs never intergrated.
@@nonofyourbusiness-q5g I believe that we can continue being nice and still succeed. Look at countries like Dubai (the UAE) and Singapore. They have a lot of foreigners and they don't force them to integrate, yet they are still prospering. Besides, Kenyans are naturally kind and hospitable (we only hate terrorism offenders but we are generally nice people)
@@nonofyourbusiness-q5g True,...in ten years half of Nairobi will be foreigners, especially the yahoo boys. We have to clean house soon and scare them the way SA does.
This is a great insight and very informative. Although I have not been to Kenya, I have been to South Africa several times. The have great infrastructure, good road network, fine dinning restaurants and great nightlife. God willing my intention is to relocate to SA from the UK in the near future.
I'm from the UK. Me and my wife are looking to buy a second home in Cape Town.. it's a beautiful city. I think all people in the diaspora that are able should look at setting up a base somewhere on the continent.
If you are of European descent, Cape Town will be fine for you from the cold weather to the racial hierarchy. If you are African, Joburg would be better for you.
Interesting video. I agree that housing options are better and more affordable in SA. Kenya has so much work to do. As for the xenophobia issue, what non-south africans need to realise is, there was an influx of Africans from other countries, too much and it wasn't well managed. Immigration should be properly managed to avoid too many foreigners moving in. That's what brings about xenophobic attitudes, especially when locals feel like their opportunities are being taken from them. Again, immigration isn't the problem, but rather improperly managed immigration.
Kenya has a very Very Very huge population of immigrants from neighboring countries with unstable governments and the input the immigrants have put in have immensely catapultted Kenyas economy. The citizens learned to use immigrants to their advantage instead of seeing them as competitions
@@polycarpkadima5385Haven't you seen the employers employing foreigners because they want to exploit them and pay them peanut salaries? That's what causing this violence. You can't employ foreigners and leave locals out who qualify to do the same job just because you want to exploit the foreigner. SA has the highest unemployment in Africa and what is happening is unfair to them. What I've also noticed is that Africans like SA to support them and feel for there problems but no African seems to care about South Africans and there problems. Everytime South Africans complain they are labled as being xenophobic.
@polycarpkadima5385 your comparison doesn't basis lacks understanding the background difference. In SA you have opportunities taken by labour force which exploits foreigners. We have some foreigner s who exploit the country and abuse citizens. That is not welcome
Anybody come to South African must come legal other than that it's unconstitutional !!people want to come to South Africa illegal then after that make RUclips videos showing the world that SA is Xenophobia ,but they forgot that they broke the law's of the Republic 😢😢 to entering the country illegal ,it's hard to see any content creators talk about moving to other countries undocumented its unlawful . People in the last days they don't want to obey the law's, They want everything to be undemocratic. Chaos, no rule of law etc, but we welcome you sister with your family in this country with warm welcoming, we believe you will be very successful in this country, God bless you .
100% agree. Some of them hate the locals in SA and say bad things about them. But when they are asked to return to their original countries they refuse to go back.
Even legal foreigners are targets of xenophobia in this country and I think its high time we stop defending and denying what is a reality in South Africa and we can work towards resolving the issue
My exact question....We wanna see these East African and South African women dating Nigerians move to Nigeria and actually live there, instead of raising Nigerian kids in our lands..
Nigeria is a shit show, Lagos is a mess, traffic lights don’t work, it’s messy. How anyone even mentions Nigeria as a giant of Africa is beyond me. It’s actually an embarrassment
Xenophobia in South Africa does not stem from Apartheid. South Africans are very welcoming to everyone, until that welcome is taken advantage of. Migrants from Kenya, Ghana, African American, UK diaspora, Eswatini, Malawi and Botswana, almost never present South African citizens with problems, thus, never have angst directed at them. Other migrants have unfortunately planted a seed of destruction and leaves South Africans with a conundrum they aren't prepared to resolve, on which are the law abiding expats. One western African country has its citizens deported from all over the world, isn't that xenophobia? What is sad is some even insult South Africans by claiming that 'they are weak and lazy', as if the country they migrated to just appeared out of thin air. This country was built with hardships some migrsnts WILL NEVER understand. Our brothers and sisters paid the ultimate price to get us to keep this South Africa that expats from around the world seek. These organisations you refer to are less than 5 years old, are made up of a disgruntled minority and DO NOT speak for the rest of the people of colour. To use these groups in an argument is tantamount to propaganda, because conversely there are a plethora of organisations that fight for the rights of asylum seekers and defenseless migrants, but are not mentioned. There will never be a diaspora unity that will be based on a lack of respect. Pan Africanism will never be a reality if we do not call each other out for bad deeds. If highly successful Africans leave their homelands to work in westernized countries, those homelands will remain in the third world.
I love your channel, you are objective and intentionally educating with your material. Keep this good work up. Xenophobia in South African surely has it's roots in our divided past. However, the black population in South Africa is known for their hospitality and Ubuntu (I am because you are)spirit. When the apartheid ended, black people took government and opened the country, relaxed the restrictions, developed the country, and championed human rights. We have always been so welcoming to migrant worker's, hence the diversity and influx of everybody from around the world choosing to come to the country to experience and make a better living. Most foreigners find it easier to support their countries from wealth and living wages generated here in SA. Unfortunately some foreigners have since taken advantage of this in a bad way by exploiting, disrespecting, abuse and spitting in the face of the host, and hence foreigners from specific groups have become synonymous with such bad wrap. And I think this is the fuel for this Xenophobia. This is further fueled by the high level of unemployment driven by poor policy execution where employers cut corners and exploit the work force, hire foreigners for their cheaper wage acceptance, etc. The chidimma Vanessa case is one where one really needs all facts before using that example. There is a certain narrative and association with fraud and all other sorts of exploitation with some people from Nigeria irrespective of where they are in the world. Most countries are known to have had enough with them...soo the narrative goes. Unfortunately for Vanessa, it was about the legitimacy, fraud and exploitation that brought about the saga, not that she had her roots traced from outside the country. If the allegations are true about her parent's identity theft case, and the ordeal the victims suffered, the spot light and empathy should be on the more legitimate victims, and not just Vanessa(she can blame her parents for that). South Africans are very intellectual people who understand their rights. It's unfortunate that in any country you do find good and bad apples, But traditionally and generally, South African are welcoming and inclusive, hence the rainbow 🌈 nation. You will not find a South African in a foreign country who does not live respectfully with the host.
the honest truth is that low income SA citizens are going through hell and whenever they voice their thoughts, they're stamped xenophobic by both foreigners and well-off South Africans who exploit foreigners for their cheap handwork, but South Africans feel sidelined by their own government
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Chidimma is playing a victim and going with the Xenophobic sentiments when the issue was and always has been about her fraudulently obtained citizenship, a criminal act.
You people lie too much we all know the reason for her hate was because of her roots u saw she was excelling and ur hate for Nigerians was what fueled everything,why didn’t u also feel the need to investigate those with asians names huh this wasn’t even the first case of this disgusting behavior u were killing black African not too long ago and destroyed their properties.you people keep on coming up with silly excuses for disgusting behavior all the time
As a SA'n watching on, I quite enjoyed watching this. Conducting a country comparison without coming across as dismissive of one over the other, can be quite a slippery slope; I reckon you avoided falling into those traps quite well. That fact about flight costs from SA to Ethiopia costing lower vis-a-vis those from Kenya to Ethiopia (which are even closer to one another) is quite 🤯 for me. It will be interesting to know how airline companies justify that. Great content overall, with brilliant editing.
Most flights from Nairobi to Addis and vice versa are nonstop and that's why they are equally the same price from Joburg/CPT nonstop flights. The $332 she has shown is not for nonstop flights.
That's nothing to laugh about, you will only get Nigerians coming to Kenya even in larger numbers than they are now to x.e.x.u.a.l.l.y exploit our underage waschanas.
I agree with you the difference between Jhb and Capetown. Johannesburg is more inclusive of everyone and every ethnicity. And wealth difference is not so visible like in cape town.
sorry for a fact Mombasa is more expensive than Nairobi. I live in an affluent neighborhood in Nairobi and is relatively cheaper compared to how much I used to pay in Mombasa nyali.
I disagree with what you say at 19:05. The Nairobi-Moyale-Addis Ababa Road is one of the smoothest roads in Africa. And a long scenic 32-hour road trip. The ET side though is burdened by almost 50 roadblocks. The few insecurity spillovers are from KE’s neighbours, nothing to do with KE, but I get what you’re saying.
@@Mykorashchev you are right, nothing to do with kenya. You might be safe on this roadtrip but for me it would be very very dangerous. That’s why I stressed that the evaluation is based on my own cultural background and personal needs.
@@Cloud-zn5tl Totally irrelevant to my comment which you replied to. Let's keep it within the topic & content of the video. Anything else is irrelevant.
@@Cloud-zn5tl this is just laughable. The sheer level of jealousy you’re showing is beyond pathetic, it’s almost tragic. Imagine being so bitter that you waste your time trolling someone living a life you clearly envy. Every comment you make screams insecurity and envy, and it’s absolutely humiliating-for you. @planbacktoafrica, let this clown keep hating while you keep winning and inspiring. They’re just mad they’ll never be you!
@@Cloud-zn5tl this is just laughable. The sheer level of jealousy you’re showing is beyond pathetic-it’s almost tragic. Imagine being so bitter that you waste your time trolling someone living a life you clearly envy. Every comment you make screams insecurity and envy, and it’s absolutely humiliating-for you. @planB-BacktoAfrica, let this clown keep hating while you keep winning and inspiring. They’re just mad they’ll never be you!
There is no xenophobia in south Africa, there is just intolerance for illegal migration. Even though south africa has millions of illegal migrants from Zimbabwe and mozambique, anti-illegal migrants flairs would pop up as soon crime and inveniences caused by illegal migrants arise. It's usually quiet, but every now and then, south africans get tired of the issues caused by illegal migrants.
Wish you peace and success as you move to South Africa. Hopefully you've found your forever home. Please keep the life update videos coming once you've settled in. Will be watching from Kenya.
@@andrewndambuki6097 i agree it’s an important criteria, reason why I didn’t mention this is because both countries offer great reliable internet 🚀 power hasn’t been an issue either.
eish!! Eskom power cuts may have gotten better. The loadshedding over the past maybe 10yrs has been hell but we seem to have gotten better. Welcome to SA. Enjoy!
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Well I beg to differ power is an issue when you have power cut nearly half a day for 10years that cripple business what do you mean its not an issue, but any you have made you mind.
I think people to opine on so-called xenophobia need to fully understand south africa and it's challenges.... then tell us if they were south africans what were they going to do? Xenophobia is the wrong term to use against south africans... IF we were xenophobic we wouldn't welcome anyone in our country. Now understand that to be south african is more than citizenship but bloodline.
@@nathanagnew9167 why not South Africa, coz last time I checked SA only had problem with people coming without proper documents. If he/she gets the required documents to enter SA he/she will not have any problem touring SA...
Regarding Xenophobia. I know you were here for 3months but once you live here gain a better understanding of the situation. If people from other countries coming not in their thousands but millions into 1 country and arent there legally and cant be employed legally due to not having the right right documentation then large portions of them will resort to crime. Whilst in the same time we have no way to track them in our system. Seeing as though you're going to come here how would you feel if a crime was committed against you or your family and we have no ways of tracking the perpetrators because their info isnt in our systems? Then as you say they cracking dowm on illegal immigrants in work places. The other side of this coin is that many companys dont want to pay the minimum wage to South Africans and then basically use slave labor and pay them peanuts without observing labor laws. All in all we really need to clean up our country and put systems in place so that SA can be better for all. But like i said once youre living here long term you'll understand more our perspective. Something that many outsiders also take for granted is the unity amongst our black tribes in SA this is not the case for most African countries
Well I understand that but when you see south african women cry on TV because she hates other african you will scratch ur head and think twice before going there, but in kenya 🇰🇪 it's the same alot of undecomented people are there..still kenyans are more welcoming...I'm somali and the only other country I feel comfortable is kenya
@AhmedIbrahim-or5dg That's what media does, and South Africa is one country that gets a lot of attention from all around the world. Unsettled by its potential as a leader in African and a major player on a global stage, including exploitation from west, everything is under the microscope and gets blown out for a specific purpose. As for the crying lady, it's unfortunate, but try her experience at the hands of foreigners. We have cases of children dying from spoilt poisoned food stuff bought from foreign owned shops where they allegedly sell fake food which does not meet safety standards. Kids raped by a foreigner who owned a spaza shop for sweets, our young girls lured and cornered into drugs and prostitution making millions for foreign drug dealers.... Peaceful, law abiding and legal foreigners are welcome and have found green pastures here.
@@Muthundinne2.0 one of the only positive things coming out of this is its actually a cause that is uniting South Africans. I think as South Africans we deal with problems and face things that most other Africans won't understand. It's really a tough one.
Kindly consider changing your Microphone/sound system has your voice is heard from a distance far, I had to crank my screen volume up to 60 to hear you. Otherwise good job 👏
As a Kenyan in diaspora, i see a very big potential for kenya to grow in the near future. Kenya has has all you need to live a good all-balanced and entertaining life. I really miss my fellow Kenyans😭😭 the energy kenyans have is unmatched
It indeed is. I think its unsafe though on some areas after you cross into Ethiopia due to negative ethnicity or armed tribal wars currently going on there. It's something she didn't comment on but I have seen in news articles. So, in this case, it may not be an option to her as she would be marked out for her ethnicity. The airfare between Nbo and Addis is OUTRAGEOUS!
Where I need to correct you though, is regarding the "so-called" Xenophobia, SOuth Africans aren't xenophobic, we're just frustrated by the chaos brought by illegal immigrants, we also under siege. it has nothing top do with Apartheid
Great video. When it comes to "Xenophobia", it's a whole topic on its own. As a South African, I don't believe that South Africans are xenophobic people. We had people from all neighbouring countries working in SA mines and living in harmony for years. Why would SAns be xenophobic all of a sudden now? For example, we live with Ethiopians in my village, deep in rural areas, and they speak our language fluently. They are part of the community. All I can say is anyone who wants to come to South Africa, can come LEGALLY like in any other country. If you want to work in South Africa, get that job before you leave your country and you'll be fine. That's what we (South Africans) also do.
This is one of the most balanced and informed comparisons I have ever seen. Generally in quality, SA leads. Kenya has its upside. I'm actually amazed there are no angry South Africans in the comments chiding you for daring to compare these. (There would be angry Nigerians if this was a Kenya-Naija comparison). Tax on imported goods is ridiculously high in Kenya, that's why imported goods are expensive.
12:40 South Africans are not xenophobic. They just dislike illegal immigration. There are around 5 million illegal immigrants in South Africa, that’s almost 10% of the total population of the country. The highest in Africa, I don’t think any country can accept that. It’s not that SA is anti immigrants, but it most certainly is anti illegal immigrants. Also, Chidima’s mother stole someone’s identity… that’s illegal, her being born in SA does not automatically afford her citizenship. In RSA law, you do not obtain citizenship by birth, but only by one or both of your parents being South African citizens. Neither of her parents were citizens. RSA is not xenophobic, just against illegal immigration.
You'll find most of the people moving to SA are Africans in Africa looking for western vibes but as for me hospitality matters alot. Very unfortunate that when things fall apart, black people are the primary target in SA. By the way what happened to the Freedom Chasers after they chose SA over Kenya?
Sad that RUclipsrs always pit African countries against each other. This creates a discord. Why not just mention all the good the bad of one country in one video. Then the next the good and the bad of another country without the comparison? Oh sorry I forgot, views. We are no different than the Europeans as we claim. In fact some South Africans would rather you don’t compare us, give our opponent country the price, they are better. Just leave us out of these “this country is better” primary school conversations. Appreciate each country as it’s own, no need to compare.
I really hate the Air Bnb business in SA specifically in capetown , foreigners shouldn't be allowed to buy property for RENTING purposes as it chases locals out and makes it expensive due to the foreigners from europe/america charging prices equivalent to their currencies .
Great Video, but i actually dont think you should have touched on xenophobia issue, its way complex than u actually think. South Africans are welcoming, warm & loving people ....if i were you, i'd watch other Africans video who migrated in SA and see their take on SA & people.
A well balanced analysis. I am a citizen of both countries. I live in Cape Town but am always in Kenya for my other family there. I totally agree with your analysis. On the xenophobia thing, most South Africans love people from other countries. It is not everywhere there are xenophobic attacks. And where they occur, they are normally instigated by a few politicians who use populist rethorics the young, unemployed ior not so well educated ones to gain votes. I remember here in Cape Town, when those who wanted to bring the dudula thing, the taxi (matatu) drivers, guided their businesses and refused to let it happen here. For their businesses, they need passengers, doesn't matter where they come from. Also South Africans who have properties rent out to both SAns and foreigners. They don't want anyone to interfere with the peace which will affect their income. I usually go to a place called Belleville on the outskirts of Cape Town to buy vegetables, sweet potatoes, arrow roots, yam. Here, you find both South Africans and foreigners trading together selling different types of fruit and veggies alongside each other . The place is full of Somali shops as well as locally owned shops. The provincial govt tries to ensure that people co - exist, people are enlightened and they know the value of each other. And remember, SA is a big country and there big expectations from many countries on her, so if there is a flare of xenophobia somewhere, it makes a major news on international media. Just my opinion
would like to hear what you have to say about Kenya in comparison to ZA. For the vlogger, I think Cape Town and Jhb check most of her needs and agrees with her soul which is the most important thing when looking to move to a new land. Mdleleni, as a Kenyan, I would be happy to hear what you think of Nairobi and Kenya in general and where its punching above weight or trailing ZA. Cheers!
@@DumeJeusi for me where Kenya punches above the line is the dissemination of important information to the public. This is done so well and the public is always educated and informed . Eg various information platforms are used to reach targetted demographic eg if it is matters of health and the govt wants to pass info like info on where to go for vital health check ups for lifestyle diseases eg BP, diabetes, they use radios, TV stations, Billboards etc. Radio ant TV stations usually invite doctors or experts in health to explain to the populace different issues re health eg causes of diseases, what to eat, different types of foods and what a person should do and where to go if in need etc. Another example is like when the prepaid electricity meters software needed to be updated recently, there was repeat messages on radios reminding people what to expect, and how to update their software etc. Here, we updated our software last year or so but the info was mainly sent on whatsapp groups, not much info on radios, Tvs. And where SA punches above the line is the way private medical places are efficiently structured. If I want to see my doctor, I phone, get appointment and when I go, they have my file ready and I see my doc. In Kenya, you just go, don't need to book an appointment, sit, wait for long etc. A doctor can be somewhere far and they will not tell you so. You wait. Which wastes your time. It is like private docs there care more of making money instead of patients' rights and time. This can't happen here. That is my take.
Thanks for the analysis of both countries. I like both countries and would love to visit next year. I've been reading much about the crime rate in South Africa and that's discouraging me. When you move to SA, make more videos about the crime rate there.
Honestly it's closed minded people like you that I don't want in my beloved South Africa. If you were visiting a Western Country you wouldn't even be thinking about crime. This shows you pretty much have a Western view to life which really is disappointing at this day and age. Rather go elsewhere...
Very informative video! Out of curiosity, I find it interesting that you left Germany to travel the African continent yet in terms of schooling you’re still aligned with the German education system. Why did you want German education over any of the other international options that may have been available? Or would you have preferred to have a Kenyan education?
@@ebenesimmons5221 im actually open for international English speaking schools as well. It’s just that German as the language of instruction makes more sense, because that’s the language my kids understand most.
Amazing! Your kids born of an Nigerian dad & Ethiopian mum, born in Germany stayed in Kenya relocating to SA.Global Citizen.I like that you learnt Kiswahili(The most spoken language in Africa) more Africans should take up the language
I stopped watching when defended Chiddima.. saying she born and raised in South Africa. Chiddima stole her parents stole SA identity not not nonsense u just said.🚮🚮🚮
Kenya has many foreigners too. They're starting to affect housing prices. Like she saiid in the video, the presence of the UN makes things such as private school education even more expensive.
Great content and I'm looking forward to your South African content. Thank you for choosing my country South Africa, I can't wait to welcome you in your new home country and I will be following your adventure. Sending love from South Africa. New Subscriber here. 😊🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Well I must write as a South African. You are truly a beautiful woman. It melts my heart to know , that you have decided to reside. In the land of my forefathers. As you put ure feet on the soil. May the ancestors start walking with you.
So when we protect our country we become Xenophobic🤔,but you'll never see SAns going to other people country's,on Chidimma she is not a South African her mother is a Mozambican not South African do a proper research my dear
As the south African yes Kenya is another good country. All and all African countries are now developing. If you have time visit other Southern African countries like Botswana and Namibia and Botswana is very safe
Hi , if i may ask you please are you now staying here in south africa, I am a south african i really want to stay and married and settled to Ethiopia 🇪🇹
Joberg is the better place because you will be there; A gem from Ethiopia. I really need to visit, and consider living there. I will be check my phone to see how cold it gets in the winter because south Florida has me spoil. Must success with your channel because you are needed. Your very intellectual. I subscribed.
Excellent and informative video. We were considering Kenya to retire but was told we would be paying almost $2000 US dollars (each) every year for a retirement visa and only valid for one year, is not appealing to me. In SA retirement visa is for 4 years and longer, with minimal cost for renewal makes it very appealing to us. Also housing seems to be much more affordable in SA. Although Kenya would be our preferred place to live, the visa situation is not affordable. Thank you.
Thank you 🙏🏾 Same here actually, I’m not ready to extend my Kenyan residency for this huge amount of money 🥲 Every year the government increases prices for visa, taxes, etc. I’m tired! Plus, the comparatively cheap prices for beautiful houses and international schools in SA makes it a very attractive country in my opinion.
@@alexchui3511 What’s your problem? The issues of increased visa fees and taxes is very true and unfortunately all this money ends up in Ruto’s pockets and a few politicians while on the ground we have very little to show for it! That’s why Ruto with his whole government must pack up and bounce! 😏
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Personally, If they want to attract investors at least make the benefits a little more attractive so that small investor can come in and live.
Thank you all for engaging in this discussion. I want to address the topic of xenophobia since many South Africans feel triggered by my assessment.
Firstly, born and raised in Germany, I see many similarities regarding xenophobia between both countries. However, in Germany, as in South Africa, the issue isn’t the migrants themselves, but the mismanagement of resources and the failure of the government to address these problems. What’s troubling is that rather than holding the government accountable, people often attack the weakest and most vulnerable-the migrants. This is plain wrong!!!
Let me also clarify that I am not excusing illegal immigration or the breaking of laws. However, it’s important to recognize that in both Germany and South Africa, the legal immigration processes are deeply flawed. Many people who migrate do so out of desperation, and the reality is that the systems in place make it nearly impossible for them to follow the legal route. This is something we should hold the government accountable for, not the migrants who are simply trying to find a better life.
What is most concerning is how people respond to illegal immigration. This is where human rights come into play. In any society, the way you handle challenges speaks to your values and respect for humanity. Violent attacks, burning shops down, and killing migrant workers show a complete disregard for basic human rights. Whether someone is documented or not, they deserve to be treated with dignity.
Regarding Chidimma, bullying a 23-year-old woman online for crimes she did not commit goes against our shared values of respect and humanity. Period!
Lastly, I understand that there are deep concerns in South Africa, and I empathize with the frustration over unemployment and lack of resources. But attacking migrants-whether they are legal or undocumented-is not the solution. It’s about how we treat people in the most difficult situations that truly reflects the values of a nation. South Africa has a long history of fighting for human rights, and we should never lose sight of that.
@@planB-BacktoAfrica we agree let's look a solution, we South African we must force our government to do better in this regard, thank you 🙏
You never have a think piece or solutions for the countries where all these m!grants are running away from just like the runaways themselves, it's like you don't want anything to improve there,,,,,,South Africa is not Germany.
@@dennisflo9284 I repeat, In ANY society, the way you handle challenges speaks to your values and respect for humanity!
For fear of becoming a troll, this will be my last comment! Just wanna say we will not apologise for defending the future of our children. I don’t care so much about documented or not though those who do are correct. What I care about is the livelihood of my family and those around me. Yes we have a problem of corruption and bribery in our government and law enforcement and if you know something about us is that we take action against those South Africans as well “there are protests every week in South Africa fighting against that. So in the same light we cannot allow others to do wrong because they are foreigners!!! How do you respect someone human right who does not respect your human rights?
My stance which will remain unchanged whether I’m called xenophobic or not is:
-If you sell drugs to my children and I report it and nothing happens to you! I will do whatever is in my power to protect my children (If you are a parent you know what I mean)
- If you sell toxic and expired foods to my children and I report and nothing happens to you! I will burn down your store.
If you cannot comprehend these two points above, then maybe you should choose another country to stay because you be disappointed. We will not stop defending our livelihoods period.
There are still thousands of Ethiopians owning stores here is South Africa (I buy from one everyday) and we live gracefully with them because they do nothing wrong. But all the bad elements we will root them.
And you know in all fairness South Africa is a very kind place to immigrants, our laws allow opportunities to everyone immigrants or not. In fact it is one of the most welcoming places in Africa that is the reason why even with the bad publicity those who know South Africa as yourself do not want to leave as compared to the experiences in other African countries. Ethiopia for example: I have been to Addis and Lalibela in 2019 and in the 7 days I was there, I have never even seen ONE SHOP owned by a foreign national🤷🏾♂️ that in itself says a lot about how Ethiopian laws are designed accommodate foreigners🤔
I do understand why your view of South Africa on this topic is a little harsh! It is obviously tainted by your Nigerian influence. Hence you refuse to acknowledge that there was illegal activity with Chidima’s saga therefore she should not be allowed to represent us.
Her parents failed her, NOT South Africans
Dear Mrs Plan B,
Thank you for the informative video on South Africa and Kenya. Your analysis was insightful, but you briefly touched on a sensitive issue: xenophobia, which has now sparked a heated debate in your comment section.
I respect your attempt to clarify your perspective, but comparing Germany's migrant challenges to South Africa’s is somewhat misplaced. I won’t delve into the nuanced differences between xenophobia in Germany and South Africa, but I will say this: migration in South Africa has evolved into an organised syndicate, supported not just by governments but also by corporate interests, as well as wealthy and middle-class South Africans through the demand for cheap labor. An incompetent government certainly exacerbates this crisis, but it doesn’t change the reality that migration is a ticking time bomb here.
The issue with us, so-called "clever blacks," is assuming that impoverished township communities, who bear the brunt of this crisis, have the luxury to intellectualise what is, for them, a life-or-death situation.
I agree with you on the importance of upholding basic human rights. Violence is never the answer, but try telling that to someone who is living in extreme poverty, with their only hope being young adults reliant on government institutions like public hospitals, clinics, schools, and welfare grants. Parents are watching their children grapple with drug addiction (often linked to foreign nationals) and alcohol abuse as a means of coping with the lack of opportunities.
Given all this, it's clear that the migrant issue in Germany is not comparable to the one in South Africa. In my view, the German situation is more cultural, whereas ours is deeply tied to economic, political, and organized criminal syndicates funded by foreign governments.
I could go on, but perhaps you should consider hosting a live-stream discussion on RUclips. I'd be happy to participate and even help organize it, so you can hear more about the deeper issues facing South Africans.
Once again, I fully support respecting basic human rights. We must find a peaceful way to address this issue. I believe South Africans are, by nature, peaceful people, but I cannot tell someone in desperation how to behave when their survival is at stake. Instincts take over when one is pushed to the limit. Look at Palentine and Isreal, including the Russia and Ukrain. You cannot tell me that these people just woke up and went to war, something triggered them and for whatever reasons, they decided to kill and die for what they believe in. It is sad and completely unacceptable, but only an ideal world.
As a Kenyan who have visited SA twice. SA is our big brother who you look up to and want to be like shout out to mzansi.
Kenyans are the most understanding people.. easy to get along with.. Simply amazing people.. Proud of our Kenyan brothers and Sisters ❤️
as south african we love kenya we relate to kenya
Thanks for those wonderful words and shout out to you too Kenyan people for building your country it's so nice to be LOVED as South Africans because these days we be getting hate for nothing big love 👊🏾👊🏾
Big Love
Huyu si mkenya😂
I’m South African, besides gems like Botswana and Namibia, if I where to ever leave SA (which I never will, not even for USA) I’d go to Rwanda or kenya
South Africa + Kenya + Ghana (- Nigeria) = Motherland
love the people of Kenya and have much respect for its Gen Z, crazy that they look just like us, a dna investigation has to be conducted about bantu expansion/migration
Serious misdiagnosis on SA culture. SA does not have a tribalism issue. We are united in our diversity, and all 9 African/vernacular languages are treated the same... we inter marry, we recognise our African spiritual practices, we practice cultural marriage practices, initiation schools for boys and girls is practised...we are proper Africans who love each other
I agree 100%.
We actually do, Im guessing you aren't African
@@precious5333no we don't. Not since the early 90s, when they were trying to divide and conquer the country. There is absolutely no tribalism in SA. How old are you? lol😂😂😂
@@precious5333Aybo amanga wena,South Africans aren't tribalist,you find so many groups of friends with different tribes amongst them
I'm also surprised by her flawed sentiments. We're the most Africanized Africans...oh we don't even bear English,French and Arab names as our first names like them .
As a Kenyan I relate more with southern Africa countries than north and west maybe because of culture similarities. S.A is in my list we are coming soon YEBO!!!
yawa! nikii? ubolaa shina ewe? tungrulong'miet?
hahaa! Good luck with google translate
as a Kenyan in diaspora am flattered to be even compared to SA. Kenya is a paradise operating way below its potential. For me, there is no city in the world that compares to Cape town. But honestly it is an apples to oranges comparison.
How long have you been in diaspora i doubt if your kenyan
Kenya is it's own class lady... it can't be compared with any country in Africa.
Always put yourself first
@@iasproduction2993 if you that in south Africans call us Xenophobic. we are being bullied by other Africans.
@@frankfrantix20 years in diaspora. Lived innkenya my first 26.
Great video and a wonderful comparison. As an African American that has visited South Africa, the people stole my heart along with an incredible experience, which is why I'm relocating there. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
You're are very welcomed, my dear brother
Welcome back home my brother ❤️
@@ntombomzisitshomo6897 Thank you. I really appreciate it!
Proudly South African here ❤🇿🇦
As a born and raised South African, I’ve been to Europe and lived 15 years of my life working and studying in Canada. I’ve met a lot of people from Somalia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya, Ghana even South Africans in Canada. And they all love and respect South Africa! A year ago I decided to move back to South Africa and it’s been the best decision. There’s so much we take for granted that people else where would die to have in this country! It sometimes feels like we’re extra privileged to have so much of what we have here. I’ll be living in Cape Town soon 😊
Brother can you tell me how you studied abroad in Canada as South African
Im kenyan but comparing kenya and satafrika,we not comparable,sa wayyy ahead of us
No they are not
@@jessicah-22
440 billion usd gdp compared to 44 billion gdp.Thats being realistic
@@nonofyourbusiness-q5g Dude your delusional go check your facts, SA GDP 320 billion most of it comes from gold and diamond kenya GDP 130 billion no mineral dependent just high human resource and mix economy.
@@nonofyourbusiness-q5g I think you mean Uganda dude, Uganda's GDP is 45B, the comment is about Kenya.
Have you been to SA? there are places where 80 % of the population live in Cape Town, you wouldnt live there even if you were paid. when people hear South Africa they see Camps bay, forgetting only 0,1 % of the locals live there.
I am a South African and plan to visit Kenya in December, i love Kenyan people,
Why not move to Ethiopia or Eritrea. That’s your ancestry and are equally good countries.
Or Nigeria where her partner or ex is from? I am just curious. I am not in any way trying to make her feel a certain type of way.
I agree! I cried when leaving Johannesburg 😢❤ man I love South Africa so much
@@BeFreewithmaeliabee I feel you 🫶🏾
😂😂 Maybe we take our country for granted
@@MfezekoMatshoba 🤣 trust me yall have so much peace there compared to the US
I respect Nairobi, the capital of Africa. Said as a South African.
Ma'am, in terms of the Chidima situation, you are completely misinformed. Her mother stole someone's identity in order to register Chidima as a South African. Being born in South Africa does not automatically mean you're a South African.
Here in Kenya we're looking up to the South Africa. It's the big brother
As South African we love Kenya and kenyans🎉
Regarding Chidimma issue, it was communicated by our Home Affairs office that she didn't obtain her documents legally so the outcry came from the fact that having illegal documents proves that she's not a South African. We wait to get further updates from the government regarding this matter. It is unfair that as South Africans, we have been labeled as Xenophobic because all we want is that those who are here must be here legally. They need to be properly documented.
Chidimma is not an immigrant, she was born, raised and educated in South Africa.
Nobody said she is an immigrant, but just know before Chidinma there is a woman who lost her Identity to Chidinmas mother and today that woman is still suffering because of the identity stolen by chichi mom but let's not talk to much the law will take its course
@@Ice-r6bChidinma is the least of SA problems. Worry about the thousands of palm color people coming because of Home Affairs Minister Leon Schreibe.
@@WWTin2024There's lots of Chidimma' s with her family doing the samething in South Africa.. She's a part of the bigger picture and now the face of it.. The problem is way bigger than you think it is, so let's not fool ourselves
@@WWTin2024Undocumented and illegal Immigrants is a strain on the legal taxpayers in South Africa.. It also invites criminal activities and felons in this country that was never an issue
As someone from the U.K who is keen to make my way back to the continent, this was an incredible piece of content! Very balanced and well researched. Definitely looking forward to more content like this 🌍👍🏿
Glad to here that you found some value in this episode 🙏🏾
Kenya for life
for real for real, and no one beats us in hospitality. Huko mtu haezi feel at home.
@@phynnieWell said...Kenya on top....❤❤❤❤❤
Kenya keep on rising... leave no room for comparison....
South Africans....don't embrace their own.....(Black)
I agree with many of the answers and for you it obviously makes much more economic and business sense to settle in ZA especially in regards to low cost start-ups, airfare and school fees.. I also agree that South Africa has better road infra but Kenya doesn't only border lawless Somalia, South Sudan and your country Ethiopia. The road to Ethiopia is actually excellent and makes for epic journeys through Marsabit and Moyale. Road trips to Tanzania and also Uganda are super. Many Kenyans, over 90%, feel more connection to the proper EAC neighbours - Uganda, Tanzania and Rwanda and feel less inclined to travel or connect to the first three countries I mentioned. Many Kenyans like Ethiopia from far though largely due to its imperial history and PanAfricanist stand of HIM Haile Selassie. However, many don't know or understand Ethio's recent politics - post 1974.
I’m Kenyan, and back in the 80’s my dad travelled to South Africa, when all our passports were marked with a notice disallowing us from entry to South Africa. He returned with stories, beautiful postcards etc. My love for South Africa has been unwavering since. I thought about some of the comparison categories in this video and one was the nightlife. What nightlife could I have had as a black teenager in the 80’s in S.A during apartheid? Lowkey glad this woman is leaving Kenya. She rubs me the wrong way. Sorry South Africa, she’s your problem now. Fair warning, she’s an opportunist.
😂😂 this really took an unexpected turn
Thanks for the heads up ✌🏼 🇿🇦
In the next 10years, God-willing Kenya will be really developed (we are currently fixing the system). I hope we will retain our highly hospitalitable nature😊
That's what will mess us up in the future.We open c0untry to pple we have n0thing in c0mmon with & fr0m waring nations,that's a pr0blem.You have f0lk bn here 30plus yrs never intergrated.
@@nonofyourbusiness-q5g I believe that we can continue being nice and still succeed. Look at countries like Dubai (the UAE) and Singapore. They have a lot of foreigners and they don't force them to integrate, yet they are still prospering.
Besides, Kenyans are naturally kind and hospitable (we only hate terrorism offenders but we are generally nice people)
@CompassionQueen
Theres a difference those people will go home after their stay,but in your country they not going home anytime sooon
@@nonofyourbusiness-q5g True,...in ten years half of Nairobi will be foreigners, especially the yahoo boys. We have to clean house soon and scare them the way SA does.
Kenyans are peaceful and gentle people. South Africans get along very well with Kenyans.
SA is overloaded already, give us some space
TRUE😂😂😂CAN WE PLEASE BREATHE AS SOUTH AFRICANS 😂😂
please we are not taking any SA residence applications for now please...😂😂 give us a break😂
Yeah right...Mmmmmmmm!
Wow!...
You already have alot of space....learn to utilize it
I'm Kenyan and I love your explanations.Respectul, factual and in-depth.Good job
I love me some Kenyans brothers and Sistas....Shout out from 🇿🇦
@@reginaldm707 🫶🏾
This is a great insight and very informative. Although I have not been to Kenya, I have been to South Africa several times. The have great infrastructure, good road network, fine dinning restaurants and great nightlife. God willing my intention is to relocate to SA from the UK in the near future.
if you talk about infrastructure don't listen to youtube advice come and see our infrastructure is at par with first world nations
I'm from the UK. Me and my wife are looking to buy a second home in Cape Town.. it's a beautiful city. I think all people in the diaspora that are able should look at setting up a base somewhere on the continent.
yes go stay in the DRC
@@nathanagnew9167 excuse me?
If you are of European descent, Cape Town will be fine for you from the cold weather to the racial hierarchy. If you are African, Joburg would be better for you.
Interesting video. I agree that housing options are better and more affordable in SA. Kenya has so much work to do. As for the xenophobia issue, what non-south africans need to realise is, there was an influx of Africans from other countries, too much and it wasn't well managed. Immigration should be properly managed to avoid too many foreigners moving in. That's what brings about xenophobic attitudes, especially when locals feel like their opportunities are being taken from them. Again, immigration isn't the problem, but rather improperly managed immigration.
Black South Africans don't complain about the white people coming in from Europe and other countries.
Kenya has a very Very Very huge population of immigrants from neighboring countries with unstable governments and the input the immigrants have put in have immensely catapultted Kenyas economy. The citizens learned to use immigrants to their advantage instead of seeing them as competitions
Toxic 😂
@@polycarpkadima5385Haven't you seen the employers employing foreigners because they want to exploit them and pay them peanut salaries? That's what causing this violence. You can't employ foreigners and leave locals out who qualify to do the same job just because you want to exploit the foreigner. SA has the highest unemployment in Africa and what is happening is unfair to them. What I've also noticed is that Africans like SA to support them and feel for there problems but no African seems to care about South Africans and there problems. Everytime South Africans complain they are labled as being xenophobic.
@polycarpkadima5385 your comparison doesn't basis lacks understanding the background difference. In SA you have opportunities taken by labour force which exploits foreigners. We have some foreigner s who exploit the country and abuse citizens. That is not welcome
Anybody come to South African must come legal other than that it's unconstitutional !!people want to come to South Africa illegal then after that make RUclips videos showing the world that SA is Xenophobia ,but they forgot that they broke the law's of the Republic 😢😢 to entering the country illegal ,it's hard to see any content creators talk about moving to other countries undocumented its unlawful . People in the last days they don't want to obey the law's, They want everything to be undemocratic. Chaos, no rule of law etc, but we welcome you sister with your family in this country with warm welcoming, we believe you will be very successful in this country, God bless you .
Talk to much bro
100% agree. Some of them hate the locals in SA and say bad things about them. But when they are asked to return to their original countries they refuse to go back.
Even legal foreigners are targets of xenophobia in this country and I think its high time we stop defending and denying what is a reality in South Africa and we can work towards resolving the issue
@@precious5333#Facts, thanks for your brutal honesty!
@@josephdesouse4320🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why didn't you choose Nigeria because you are married to a Nigerian.
😂😂😂nobody cares for your crowded swamp. Leave us alone.🇰🇪🇿🇦
Good question 😂😂
My exact question....We wanna see these East African and South African women dating Nigerians move to Nigeria and actually live there, instead of raising Nigerian kids in our lands..
@@kagisomabitse9855 no man you are confused. 🤣🤣, I am saying your question is a good one
Nigeria is a shit show, Lagos is a mess, traffic lights don’t work, it’s messy. How anyone even mentions Nigeria as a giant of Africa is beyond me. It’s actually an embarrassment
Xenophobia in South Africa does not stem from Apartheid. South Africans are very welcoming to everyone, until that welcome is taken advantage of.
Migrants from Kenya, Ghana, African American, UK diaspora, Eswatini, Malawi and Botswana, almost never present South African citizens with problems, thus, never have angst directed at them.
Other migrants have unfortunately planted a seed of destruction and leaves South Africans with a conundrum they aren't prepared to resolve, on which are the law abiding expats. One western African country has its citizens deported from all over the world, isn't that xenophobia?
What is sad is some even insult South Africans by claiming that 'they are weak and lazy', as if the country they migrated to just appeared out of thin air. This country was built with hardships some migrsnts WILL NEVER understand. Our brothers and sisters paid the ultimate price to get us to keep this South Africa that expats from around the world seek.
These organisations you refer to are less than 5 years old, are made up of a disgruntled minority and DO NOT speak for the rest of the people of colour. To use these groups in an argument is tantamount to propaganda, because conversely there are a plethora of organisations that fight for the rights of asylum seekers and defenseless migrants, but are not mentioned.
There will never be a diaspora unity that will be based on a lack of respect. Pan Africanism will never be a reality if we do not call each other out for bad deeds. If highly successful Africans leave their homelands to work in westernized countries, those homelands will remain in the third world.
I love your channel, you are objective and intentionally educating with your material. Keep this good work up.
Xenophobia in South African surely has it's roots in our divided past.
However, the black population in South Africa is known for their hospitality and Ubuntu (I am because you are)spirit. When the apartheid ended, black people took government and opened the country, relaxed the restrictions, developed the country, and championed human rights. We have always been so welcoming to migrant worker's, hence the diversity and influx of everybody from around the world choosing to come to the country to experience and make a better living. Most foreigners find it easier to support their countries from wealth and living wages generated here in SA.
Unfortunately some foreigners have since taken advantage of this in a bad way by exploiting, disrespecting, abuse and spitting in the face of the host, and hence foreigners from specific groups have become synonymous with such bad wrap. And I think this is the fuel for this Xenophobia. This is further fueled by the high level of unemployment driven by poor policy execution where employers cut corners and exploit the work force, hire foreigners for their cheaper wage acceptance, etc.
The chidimma Vanessa case is one where one really needs all facts before using that example. There is a certain narrative and association with fraud and all other sorts of exploitation with some people from Nigeria irrespective of where they are in the world. Most countries are known to have had enough with them...soo the narrative goes. Unfortunately for Vanessa, it was about the legitimacy, fraud and exploitation that brought about the saga, not that she had her roots traced from outside the country. If the allegations are true about her parent's identity theft case, and the ordeal the victims suffered, the spot light and empathy should be on the more legitimate victims, and not just Vanessa(she can blame her parents for that).
South Africans are very intellectual people who understand their rights. It's unfortunate that in any country you do find good and bad apples, But traditionally and generally, South African are welcoming and inclusive, hence the rainbow 🌈 nation.
You will not find a South African in a foreign country who does not live respectfully with the host.
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
This no Xenophobic in South Africa 🇿🇦, If foreigners nationals come here in South Africa 🇿🇦 illegal. I don't want that is South Africans.
the honest truth is that low income SA citizens are going through hell and whenever they voice their thoughts, they're stamped xenophobic by both foreigners and well-off South Africans who exploit foreigners for their cheap handwork, but South Africans feel sidelined by their own government
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Chidimma is playing a victim and going with the Xenophobic sentiments when the issue was and always has been about her fraudulently obtained citizenship, a criminal act.
You people lie too much we all know the reason for her hate was because of her roots u saw she was excelling and ur hate for Nigerians was what fueled everything,why didn’t u also feel the need to investigate those with asians names huh this wasn’t even the first case of this disgusting behavior u were killing black African not too long ago and destroyed their properties.you people keep on coming up with silly excuses for disgusting behavior all the time
As a South African I feel like Botswana is a nice calm place to be
As a SA'n watching on, I quite enjoyed watching this. Conducting a country comparison without coming across as dismissive of one over the other, can be quite a slippery slope; I reckon you avoided falling into those traps quite well. That fact about flight costs from SA to Ethiopia costing lower vis-a-vis those from Kenya to Ethiopia (which are even closer to one another) is quite 🤯 for me. It will be interesting to know how airline companies justify that. Great content overall, with brilliant editing.
Most flights from Nairobi to Addis and vice versa are nonstop and that's why they are equally the same price from Joburg/CPT nonstop flights. The $332 she has shown is not for nonstop flights.
My Kenya 🇰🇪 ❤
Kenya recently introduced Digital Nomad Visa which should be interesting
That's nothing to laugh about, you will only get Nigerians coming to Kenya even in larger numbers than they are now to x.e.x.u.a.l.l.y exploit our underage waschanas.
Yes. That is great. SA introduced it last year, if I remember we'll.
Yes i 💯. South Africans can party like no other Africans i know
I agree with you the difference between Jhb and Capetown. Johannesburg is more inclusive of everyone and every ethnicity. And wealth difference is not so visible like in cape town.
Very honest and informative video. Shout out to both countries
Much appreciated!
Crime in SA is like a lifestyle.
So much of a lifestyle that so many illegal immigrants have decided to add to it despite our constant fights against criminal activities. Sad...
SA blames everything on immigrants. Xenophobic
Crime is SA is due to weak courts and luxury prisons
Yep, law enforcement is very weak in SA, hence the high crime rate.
@@kkcceSouth Africa does not need any help in that department. You guys are doing a splendid jobc.
sorry for a fact Mombasa is more expensive than Nairobi. I live in an affluent neighborhood in Nairobi and is relatively cheaper compared to how much I used to pay in Mombasa nyali.
Amazing comparison! Was in both countries and can feel your comparison points for sure! Keep it going!
Thank you, will do 🙏🏾
I will choose kenya
me too. It has everything south africa lacks
@@phynnieha ha like what?
@@phynnie We lack nothing here 🇿🇦.
@@GraysonBothma-f1y Let's see
1. hospitality - can't beat us
2. friendliness - unmatched
3. peace - everywhere
4. racial tensions - none
5. wokeness - nil
6. abominable relationships - not legal
7. less westernized
8. love s. Africans
9. marathons - don't even try that
10. Africanism - authentic
@phynnie everything that you just mentioned there is subjective. South Africa is better than Kenya in almost everything that's factual.
Team Kenya!!!!!
Love this video, you are spot on my sister. I love how you compare these countries with love not trying to pull one or another down.
Great vlog today 👊🏿 very informative 👊🏿🇿🇦👊🏿
Glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏾
I disagree with what you say at 19:05. The Nairobi-Moyale-Addis Ababa Road is one of the smoothest roads in Africa. And a long scenic 32-hour road trip. The ET side though is burdened by almost 50 roadblocks. The few insecurity spillovers are from KE’s neighbours, nothing to do with KE, but I get what you’re saying.
@@Mykorashchev you are right, nothing to do with kenya. You might be safe on this roadtrip but for me it would be very very dangerous. That’s why I stressed that the evaluation is based on my own cultural background and personal needs.
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Oh yeah, that's true, now that I remember the trips I took there, you wouldn't be safe, wouldn't probably get through.
@@Cloud-zn5tl Totally irrelevant to my comment which you replied to. Let's keep it within the topic & content of the video. Anything else is irrelevant.
@@Cloud-zn5tl this is just laughable. The sheer level of jealousy you’re showing is beyond pathetic, it’s almost tragic. Imagine being so bitter that you waste your time trolling someone living a life you clearly envy. Every comment you make screams insecurity and envy, and it’s absolutely humiliating-for you. @planbacktoafrica, let this clown keep hating while you keep winning and inspiring. They’re just mad they’ll never be you!
@@Cloud-zn5tl this is just laughable. The sheer level of jealousy you’re showing is beyond pathetic-it’s almost tragic. Imagine being so bitter that you waste your time trolling someone living a life you clearly envy. Every comment you make screams insecurity and envy, and it’s absolutely humiliating-for you. @planB-BacktoAfrica, let this clown keep hating while you keep winning and inspiring. They’re just mad they’ll never be you!
There is no xenophobia in south Africa, there is just intolerance for illegal migration. Even though south africa has millions of illegal migrants from Zimbabwe and mozambique, anti-illegal migrants flairs would pop up as soon crime and inveniences caused by illegal migrants arise. It's usually quiet, but every now and then, south africans get tired of the issues caused by illegal migrants.
By number 3, I knew the choice would be SA 😂😂❤. Good luck and thanks for this comparison
Wish you peace and success as you move to South Africa. Hopefully you've found your forever home. Please keep the life update videos coming once you've settled in. Will be watching from Kenya.
Thank you 🙏🏾 will definitely do!
One important criteria you missed is reliable power and internet.
@@andrewndambuki6097 i agree it’s an important criteria, reason why I didn’t mention this is because both countries offer great reliable internet 🚀 power hasn’t been an issue either.
eish!! Eskom power cuts may have gotten better. The loadshedding over the past maybe 10yrs has been hell but we seem to have gotten better. Welcome to SA. Enjoy!
And SA wins in both.
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Well I beg to differ power is an issue when you have power cut nearly half a day for 10years that cripple business what do you mean its not an issue, but any you have made you mind.
I think people to opine on so-called xenophobia need to fully understand south africa and it's challenges.... then tell us if they were south africans what were they going to do?
Xenophobia is the wrong term to use against south africans... IF we were xenophobic we wouldn't welcome anyone in our country.
Now understand that to be south african is more than citizenship but bloodline.
very good analysis, planning a trip to SA
no please not South Africa
@@nathanagnew9167 why not South Africa, coz last time I checked SA only had problem with people coming without proper documents. If he/she gets the required documents to enter SA he/she will not have any problem touring SA...
Regarding Xenophobia. I know you were here for 3months but once you live here gain a better understanding of the situation.
If people from other countries coming not in their thousands but millions into 1 country and arent there legally and cant be employed legally due to not having the right right documentation then large portions of them will resort to crime. Whilst in the same time we have no way to track them in our system.
Seeing as though you're going to come here how would you feel if a crime was committed against you or your family and we have no ways of tracking the perpetrators because their info isnt in our systems?
Then as you say they cracking dowm on illegal immigrants in work places. The other side of this coin is that many companys dont want to pay the minimum wage to South Africans and then basically use slave labor and pay them peanuts without observing labor laws.
All in all we really need to clean up our country and put systems in place so that SA can be better for all.
But like i said once youre living here long term you'll understand more our perspective.
Something that many outsiders also take for granted is the unity amongst our black tribes in SA this is not the case for most African countries
@@isaaccpt6643 nail on the head
Well I understand that but when you see south african women cry on TV because she hates other african you will scratch ur head and think twice before going there, but in kenya 🇰🇪 it's the same alot of undecomented people are there..still kenyans are more welcoming...I'm somali and the only other country I feel comfortable is kenya
@AhmedIbrahim-or5dg That's what media does, and South Africa is one country that gets a lot of attention from all around the world. Unsettled by its potential as a leader in African and a major player on a global stage, including exploitation from west, everything is under the microscope and gets blown out for a specific purpose.
As for the crying lady, it's unfortunate, but try her experience at the hands of foreigners.
We have cases of children dying from spoilt poisoned food stuff bought from foreign owned shops where they allegedly sell fake food which does not meet safety standards. Kids raped by a foreigner who owned a spaza shop for sweets, our young girls lured and cornered into drugs and prostitution making millions for foreign drug dealers....
Peaceful, law abiding and legal foreigners are welcome and have found green pastures here.
@@Muthundinne2.0 one of the only positive things coming out of this is its actually a cause that is uniting South Africans.
I think as South Africans we deal with problems and face things that most other Africans won't understand. It's really a tough one.
@@isaaccpt6643 true that
Kindly consider changing your Microphone/sound system has your voice is heard from a distance far, I had to crank my screen volume up to 60 to hear you. Otherwise good job 👏
As a Kenyan in diaspora, i see a very big potential for kenya to grow in the near future. Kenya has has all you need to live a good all-balanced and entertaining life.
I really miss my fellow Kenyans😭😭 the energy kenyans have is unmatched
Kenya and Ethiopia have excellent road connection
It indeed is. I think its unsafe though on some areas after you cross into Ethiopia due to negative ethnicity or armed tribal wars currently going on there. It's something she didn't comment on but I have seen in news articles. So, in this case, it may not be an option to her as she would be marked out for her ethnicity. The airfare between Nbo and Addis is OUTRAGEOUS!
Much love my beautiful Sister one African people 💚💛💖🌍🇿🇦
I Love the honesty.that was good
This was Honest and Direct ... Much Appreciated 🔥🤙🏾
Where I need to correct you though, is regarding the "so-called" Xenophobia, SOuth Africans aren't xenophobic, we're just frustrated by the chaos brought by illegal immigrants, we also under siege. it has nothing top do with Apartheid
I'm a South African and like the way you put everything together. I also leaned a thing or two from your presentation.
How long that it takes you for the government to give you residency to stay in kenya
@@ExtrattKoompa I already have a residency and the process took 3 months
Great video. When it comes to "Xenophobia", it's a whole topic on its own. As a South African, I don't believe that South Africans are xenophobic people. We had people from all neighbouring countries working in SA mines and living in harmony for years. Why would SAns be xenophobic all of a sudden now? For example, we live with Ethiopians in my village, deep in rural areas, and they speak our language fluently. They are part of the community. All I can say is anyone who wants to come to South Africa, can come LEGALLY like in any other country. If you want to work in South Africa, get that job before you leave your country and you'll be fine. That's what we (South Africans) also do.
This is one of the most balanced and informed comparisons I have ever seen. Generally in quality, SA leads. Kenya has its upside. I'm actually amazed there are no angry South Africans in the comments chiding you for daring to compare these. (There would be angry Nigerians if this was a Kenya-Naija comparison). Tax on imported goods is ridiculously high in Kenya, that's why imported goods are expensive.
12:40 South Africans are not xenophobic. They just dislike illegal immigration. There are around 5 million illegal immigrants in South Africa, that’s almost 10% of the total population of the country. The highest in Africa, I don’t think any country can accept that. It’s not that SA is anti immigrants, but it most certainly is anti illegal immigrants. Also, Chidima’s mother stole someone’s identity… that’s illegal, her being born in SA does not automatically afford her citizenship. In RSA law, you do not obtain citizenship by birth, but only by one or both of your parents being South African citizens. Neither of her parents were citizens. RSA is not xenophobic, just against illegal immigration.
You'll find most of the people moving to SA are Africans in Africa looking for western vibes but as for me hospitality matters alot. Very unfortunate that when things fall apart, black people are the primary target in SA. By the way what happened to the Freedom Chasers after they chose SA over Kenya?
Still hurting that they chose SA, you'll heal with time.
Sad that RUclipsrs always pit African countries against each other. This creates a discord. Why not just mention all the good the bad of one country in one video. Then the next the good and the bad of another country without the comparison? Oh sorry I forgot, views. We are no different than the Europeans as we claim. In fact some South Africans would rather you don’t compare us, give our opponent country the price, they are better. Just leave us out of these “this country is better” primary school conversations. Appreciate each country as it’s own, no need to compare.
Take it easy, relax.
@@HadidjatouH ok Relaxation master
She really was not negative in this video so I don't know why you are so touched. I found it to be an informative compare and contrast.
@@chumabanjwa4662your opinion
Just a comparison for education purposes. Those who are triggered should look in the mirror.
I really hate the Air Bnb business in SA specifically in capetown , foreigners shouldn't be allowed to buy property for RENTING purposes as it chases locals out and makes it expensive due to the foreigners from europe/america charging prices equivalent to their currencies .
Great Video, but i actually dont think you should have touched on xenophobia issue, its way complex than u actually think. South Africans are welcoming, warm & loving people ....if i were you, i'd watch other Africans video who migrated in SA and see their take on SA & people.
A well balanced analysis. I am a citizen of both countries. I live in Cape Town but am always in Kenya for my other family there. I totally agree with your analysis. On the xenophobia thing, most South Africans love people from other countries. It is not everywhere there are xenophobic attacks. And where they occur, they are normally instigated by a few politicians who use populist rethorics the young, unemployed ior not so well educated ones to gain votes. I remember here in Cape Town, when those who wanted to bring the dudula thing, the taxi (matatu) drivers, guided their businesses and refused to let it happen here. For their businesses, they need passengers, doesn't matter where they come from. Also South Africans who have properties rent out to both SAns and foreigners. They don't want anyone to interfere with the peace which will affect their income. I usually go to a place called Belleville on the outskirts of Cape Town to buy vegetables, sweet potatoes, arrow roots, yam. Here, you find both South Africans and foreigners trading together selling different types of fruit and veggies alongside each other . The place is full of Somali shops as well as locally owned shops. The provincial govt tries to ensure that people co - exist, people are enlightened and they know the value of each other. And remember, SA is a big country and there big expectations from many countries on her, so if there is a flare of xenophobia somewhere, it makes a major news on international media. Just my opinion
Thanks for taking your time to give a better insight. It’s highly appreciated 🙏🏾
Well said 👏 👌 💯🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Well put. Often the xenophobia topic is looked at from one angle.
would like to hear what you have to say about Kenya in comparison to ZA. For the vlogger, I think Cape Town and Jhb check most of her needs and agrees with her soul which is the most important thing when looking to move to a new land. Mdleleni, as a Kenyan, I would be happy to hear what you think of Nairobi and Kenya in general and where its punching above weight or trailing ZA. Cheers!
@@DumeJeusi for me where Kenya punches above the line is the dissemination of important information to the public. This is done so well and the public is always educated and informed . Eg various information platforms are used to reach targetted demographic eg if it is matters of health and the govt wants to pass info like info on where to go for vital health check ups for lifestyle diseases eg BP, diabetes, they use radios, TV stations, Billboards etc. Radio ant TV stations usually invite doctors or experts in health to explain to the populace different issues re health eg causes of diseases, what to eat, different types of foods and what a person should do and where to go if in need etc. Another example is like when the prepaid electricity meters software needed to be updated recently, there was repeat messages on radios reminding people what to expect, and how to update their software etc. Here, we updated our software last year or so but the info was mainly sent on whatsapp groups, not much info on radios, Tvs. And where SA punches above the line is the way private medical places are efficiently structured. If I want to see my doctor, I phone, get appointment and when I go, they have my file ready and I see my doc. In Kenya, you just go, don't need to book an appointment, sit, wait for long etc. A doctor can be somewhere far and they will not tell you so. You wait. Which wastes your time. It is like private docs there care more of making money instead of patients' rights and time. This can't happen here. That is my take.
Kenya is a beautiful country welcome home.
So many foreigners believe its cheap to live in Kenya.
Thanks for the analysis of both countries. I like both countries and would love to visit next year. I've been reading much about the crime rate in South Africa and that's discouraging me. When you move to SA, make more videos about the crime rate there.
If crime was bad in South Africa, people wouldn't live in the country. Yes we have crime crises but the country is liveable.
Crime is everywhere and having lived in the US id say there's far more crime here than in SA
Honestly it's closed minded people like you that I don't want in my beloved South Africa. If you were visiting a Western Country you wouldn't even be thinking about crime. This shows you pretty much have a Western view to life which really is disappointing at this day and age. Rather go elsewhere...
@@JohnGaye it's too I think this mixmasala called diversity contribute to it
Very informative video! Out of curiosity, I find it interesting that you left Germany to travel the African continent yet in terms of schooling you’re still aligned with the German education system. Why did you want German education over any of the other international options that may have been available? Or would you have preferred to have a Kenyan education?
@@ebenesimmons5221 im actually open for international English speaking schools as well. It’s just that German as the language of instruction makes more sense, because that’s the language my kids understand most.
Amazing! Your kids born of an Nigerian dad & Ethiopian mum, born in Germany stayed in Kenya relocating to SA.Global Citizen.I like that you learnt Kiswahili(The most spoken language in Africa) more Africans should take up the language
I stopped watching when defended Chiddima.. saying she born and raised in South Africa. Chiddima stole her parents stole SA identity not not nonsense u just said.🚮🚮🚮
What an awesomee break-down...Enjoyed your insight and perspectives...thanks for sharing. 💯%. 💜🙏🏽💜👍🏽
You are so welcome
I rather live in Kenya, too many outsiders in South Africa
Kenya has many foreigners too. They're starting to affect housing prices. Like she saiid in the video, the presence of the UN makes things such as private school education even more expensive.
@@freedomm Non-black foreigners ?
@@DS92_ Yep.
@@freedomm damn, I may need to go to Tanzania...
@DS92_ -The attacks on other Africans in south Africa is another big NO.
Just finished watching a Marvin Greiffenberg's video on Nairobi vs Cape Town and he has the same exact background as you, lol
We‘re Family 😊
This lady thinks South Africa is a play ground.
Out of order , I know people act like South African speak like this , they want to make South African as bad people!!😢😢
Great content and I'm looking forward to your South African content. Thank you for choosing my country South Africa, I can't wait to welcome you in your new home country and I will be following your adventure. Sending love from South Africa. New Subscriber here. 😊🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@@Joe_Ndlozi Thanks for the warm welcome 🙏🏾 Can’t wait to share more videos!
Why you guys say we are xenophobic when we are protecting our land? You guys are boring shame.
This video is very timely as I started the real estate market research in Kenya and South Africa.
Go with SA a lot of fraud with regards to land and companies in Kenya. As she said structures in Kenya are not well developed like South Africa.
Fantastic information . Well done
Glad you liked it
Well I must write as a South African. You are truly a beautiful woman. It melts my heart to know , that you have decided to reside. In the land of my forefathers. As you put ure feet on the soil. May the ancestors start walking with you.
Great video. My first time here and I'm impressed. Keep up the good works.
Thank you!
Entertaining and informative as usual Weini!
Glad you enjoyed it
So when we protect our country we become Xenophobic🤔,but you'll never see SAns going to other people country's,on Chidimma she is not a South African her mother is a Mozambican not South African do a proper research my dear
Was she fully integrated in language and culture i mean chidinma?
Worry about what Home Affairs Minister Leon Schreibe is doing.
Can we just appreciate how beautiful God made Habesha women though😭
I wonder why don't you guys wanna stay in the DRC Congo or Nigeria, tell the people the truth.
As the south African yes Kenya is another good country. All and all African countries are now developing. If you have time visit other Southern African countries like Botswana and Namibia and Botswana is very safe
Hi , if i may ask you please are you now staying here in south africa, I am a south african i really want to stay and married and settled to Ethiopia 🇪🇹
Joberg is the better place because you will be there; A gem from Ethiopia. I really need to visit, and consider living there. I will be check my phone to see how cold it gets in the winter because south Florida has me spoil. Must success with your channel because you are needed. Your very intellectual. I subscribed.
I plan to live and have businesses in both.
@@warrengreen8711 even better! Both countries are amazing 🙏🏾
Excellent and informative video. We were considering Kenya to retire but was told we would be paying almost $2000 US dollars (each) every year for a retirement visa and only valid for one year, is not appealing to me. In SA retirement visa is for 4 years and longer, with minimal cost for renewal makes it very appealing to us. Also housing seems to be much more affordable in SA. Although Kenya would be our preferred place to live, the visa situation is not affordable. Thank you.
Thank you 🙏🏾 Same here actually, I’m not ready to extend my Kenyan residency for this huge amount of money 🥲 Every year the government increases prices for visa, taxes, etc. I’m tired! Plus, the comparatively cheap prices for beautiful houses and international schools in SA makes it a very attractive country in my opinion.
@@alexchui3511I have seen you on other videos defending Kenya. You are a patriot 😅
@@alexchui3511 What’s your problem? The issues of increased visa fees and taxes is very true and unfortunately all this money ends up in Ruto’s pockets and a few politicians while on the ground we have very little to show for it! That’s why Ruto with his whole government must pack up and bounce! 😏
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Personally, If they want to attract investors at least make the benefits a little more attractive so that small investor can come in and live.
@@alexchui3511 I can respect that 🙏🏿
It all depends with what you want. SA is very developed unlike other African countries but Kenyan vibe is unmatched. Kenya is very addictable.
Didn't hear much of what you were saying, got distracted by how pretty you are. Damn girl!
Excellent comparison..helpful.
Thumbs up, excellent video.
Many thanks!