Thank you all for engaging in this discussion. I want to address the topic of xenophobia since many South Africans feel triggered by my assessment. Firstly, born and raised in Germany, I see many similarities regarding xenophobia between both countries. However, in Germany, as in South Africa, the issue isn’t the migrants themselves, but the mismanagement of resources and the failure of the government to address these problems. What’s troubling is that rather than holding the government accountable, people often attack the weakest and most vulnerable-the migrants. This is plain wrong!!! Let me also clarify that I am not excusing illegal immigration or the breaking of laws. However, it’s important to recognize that in both Germany and South Africa, the legal immigration processes are deeply flawed. Many people who migrate do so out of desperation, and the reality is that the systems in place make it nearly impossible for them to follow the legal route. This is something we should hold the government accountable for, not the migrants who are simply trying to find a better life. What is most concerning is how people respond to illegal immigration. This is where human rights come into play. In any society, the way you handle challenges speaks to your values and respect for humanity. Violent attacks, burning shops down, and killing migrant workers show a complete disregard for basic human rights. Whether someone is documented or not, they deserve to be treated with dignity. Regarding Chidimma, bullying a 23-year-old woman online for crimes she did not commit goes against our shared values of respect and humanity. Period! Lastly, I understand that there are deep concerns in South Africa, and I empathize with the frustration over unemployment and lack of resources. But attacking migrants-whether they are legal or undocumented-is not the solution. It’s about how we treat people in the most difficult situations that truly reflects the values of a nation. South Africa has a long history of fighting for human rights, and we should never lose sight of that.
You never have a think piece or solutions for the countries where all these m!grants are running away from just like the runaways themselves, it's like you don't want anything to improve there,,,,,,South Africa is not Germany.
For fear of becoming a troll, this will be my last comment! Just wanna say we will not apologise for defending the future of our children. I don’t care so much about documented or not though those who do are correct. What I care about is the livelihood of my family and those around me. Yes we have a problem of corruption and bribery in our government and law enforcement and if you know something about us is that we take action against those South Africans as well “there are protests every week in South Africa fighting against that. So in the same light we cannot allow others to do wrong because they are foreigners!!! How do you respect someone human right who does not respect your human rights? My stance which will remain unchanged whether I’m called xenophobic or not is: -If you sell drugs to my children and I report it and nothing happens to you! I will do whatever is in my power to protect my children (If you are a parent you know what I mean) - If you sell toxic and expired foods to my children and I report and nothing happens to you! I will burn down your store. If you cannot comprehend these two points above, then maybe you should choose another country to stay because you be disappointed. We will not stop defending our livelihoods period. There are still thousands of Ethiopians owning stores here is South Africa (I buy from one everyday) and we live gracefully with them because they do nothing wrong. But all the bad elements we will root them. And you know in all fairness South Africa is a very kind place to immigrants, our laws allow opportunities to everyone immigrants or not. In fact it is one of the most welcoming places in Africa that is the reason why even with the bad publicity those who know South Africa as yourself do not want to leave as compared to the experiences in other African countries. Ethiopia for example: I have been to Addis and Lalibela in 2019 and in the 7 days I was there, I have never even seen ONE SHOP owned by a foreign national🤷🏾♂️ that in itself says a lot about how Ethiopian laws are designed accommodate foreigners🤔 I do understand why your view of South Africa on this topic is a little harsh! It is obviously tainted by your Nigerian influence. Hence you refuse to acknowledge that there was illegal activity with Chidima’s saga therefore she should not be allowed to represent us. Her parents failed her, NOT South Africans
Dear Mrs Plan B, Thank you for the informative video on South Africa and Kenya. Your analysis was insightful, but you briefly touched on a sensitive issue: xenophobia, which has now sparked a heated debate in your comment section. I respect your attempt to clarify your perspective, but comparing Germany's migrant challenges to South Africa’s is somewhat misplaced. I won’t delve into the nuanced differences between xenophobia in Germany and South Africa, but I will say this: migration in South Africa has evolved into an organised syndicate, supported not just by governments but also by corporate interests, as well as wealthy and middle-class South Africans through the demand for cheap labor. An incompetent government certainly exacerbates this crisis, but it doesn’t change the reality that migration is a ticking time bomb here. The issue with us, so-called "clever blacks," is assuming that impoverished township communities, who bear the brunt of this crisis, have the luxury to intellectualise what is, for them, a life-or-death situation. I agree with you on the importance of upholding basic human rights. Violence is never the answer, but try telling that to someone who is living in extreme poverty, with their only hope being young adults reliant on government institutions like public hospitals, clinics, schools, and welfare grants. Parents are watching their children grapple with drug addiction (often linked to foreign nationals) and alcohol abuse as a means of coping with the lack of opportunities. Given all this, it's clear that the migrant issue in Germany is not comparable to the one in South Africa. In my view, the German situation is more cultural, whereas ours is deeply tied to economic, political, and organized criminal syndicates funded by foreign governments. I could go on, but perhaps you should consider hosting a live-stream discussion on RUclips. I'd be happy to participate and even help organize it, so you can hear more about the deeper issues facing South Africans. Once again, I fully support respecting basic human rights. We must find a peaceful way to address this issue. I believe South Africans are, by nature, peaceful people, but I cannot tell someone in desperation how to behave when their survival is at stake. Instincts take over when one is pushed to the limit. Look at Palentine and Isreal, including the Russia and Ukrain. You cannot tell me that these people just woke up and went to war, something triggered them and for whatever reasons, they decided to kill and die for what they believe in. It is sad and completely unacceptable, but only an ideal world.
Thanks for those wonderful words and shout out to you too Kenyan people for building your country it's so nice to be LOVED as South Africans because these days we be getting hate for nothing big love 👊🏾👊🏾
As a South African, we welcome all who come to our country legally and while here, respect and obey our laws. It's that simple. I've been to our neighbouring countries (Eswatini, Mozambique, Lesotho, Zimbabwe and Botswana). I had to produce a valid passport for them to allow me entry to their countries. While there, I never felt entitled, I always respect the people and their way of life. I've read so much about Kenya's history and would love to visit someday. South Africans love Kenyans and you are welcome to visit anytime.
@brianmash9722 There are many people who live legally there and I lived there upon a time. The issue however is xenophobia against the people who live legally there... I went to university there many years aggo, completed and work for 1 or 2 years after... Still I was reminded it was not home. Against the whites, I was a black man (mampara as they said...) and against black South Africans, I was a kwerekwere... I said a kwerekwere like ME will not just be bullied like that... I will study even FURTHER and will make even MORE valuable... Which I did. I and my partner employ many other people... including South Africans in engineering, agri-business, transport& logistics, etc. To brag a bit (if you know other good boerers), we may between 10t to 15 thousands USD per MONTH to knowledge assertive boerers with experience and GOOD references. If they come to Katanga or Kasaï. We give a year contract renewable. I was not there in Johannesburg by just choice, but a kwerekwere like ME was just too VALUABLE to be bullied or humiliated.... I came across very good South Africans though and we are friends even today. I really like and appreciate them... They used to love my humor of pulling them up when we faced white discrimination... I USED TO SAY... A KWEREKWERE like me can NOT afford to see us down like this... Let us work and prove them wrong... And we worked at Iscor (Arcelor Mittal)... Bbbbrrr then white people would tell them, be like him (me the kwerrekwere:) :)!!)... We laughed, supported and respected each other... I have missed them although I visited South Africa here and there.... Let us not bring down the African DIGNITY... Kenya is EXTRAORDINARY... I FEEL HOME IN KENYA and love my breakfast at Serena hotel... Kenyans have made it on their own without the Muzungu (white boeres)... Maybe that is why they UNDERSTAND the African dignity... I would leave my 5 star hotel to go exploring in Kibeira... I know Kileleswe, Athi River just like West Land. South Africa is NO way close to that... HOWEVER bad xenophobia was, I thank YOU.... It has brought us to think about building our Congo. I am an alumni student from Wits, investing in different African countries (including my HOME, Dr Congo) and in Europe. A VERY proud kwerekwere!!! There are also good South Africans though... By the way, where I grew up, our neighbors of MANY YEARS were ANC refugees... We liked them and used to say they are brothers to Ivon Chaka Chaka:)! :)! They will free Mandela some days... The brother of Steve Biko... We watched the movies of freedom fighters at school to cherish who were and what we had. Thjs made us feel and fight for South Africans... By the way, our then President supported the ANC with weaokns and financially... Thjs is why ANC refugees were well taken care of... Now when I got as a 18 hears old student in South Africa and became a kwerekwere... IT WAS TRAUMATISING... I completed my university anyway and LEFT SOUTH AFRICA at the very first opportunity.... I lived in Gauteng, the Vaal Triangle and visited Cape town and Durban... Poor young foreigner... Amakwerkwere.. Eeeeiiissshhh
As a Kenyan I relate more with southern Africa countries than north and west maybe because of culture similarities. S.A is in my list we are coming soon YEBO!!!
@@joelgitui9573 I also want to come but first, Mozambique, Zambia, Namibia, Botswana again, Tanzania then Kenya and Madagascar. I really don't want to travel overseas overseas before Africa.
I’m South African, besides gems like Botswana and Namibia, if I where to ever leave SA (which I never will, not even for USA) I’d go to Rwanda or kenya
love the people of Kenya and have much respect for its Gen Z, crazy that they look just like us, a dna investigation has to be conducted about bantu expansion/migration
As a born and raised South African, I’ve been to Europe and lived 15 years of my life working and studying in Canada. I’ve met a lot of people from Somalia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya, Ghana even South Africans in Canada. And they all love and respect South Africa! A year ago I decided to move back to South Africa and it’s been the best decision. There’s so much we take for granted that people else where would die to have in this country! It sometimes feels like we’re extra privileged to have so much of what we have here. I’ll be living in Cape Town soon 😊
Great video and a wonderful comparison. As an African American that has visited South Africa, the people stole my heart along with an incredible experience, which is why I'm relocating there. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I lived with Kenyan brothers, i found them very genuine free-spirited people to live with. I would really love to visit Kenya, it should be a great country. From Pretoria, SA.
As a South African whose has visited Kenya, I can tell you that Kenya is easily one of the best countries I have visited on the continent. When I got to the airport in Nairobi, I saw a sign that said "welcome home" and became emotional because it truly felt like home. I love you Kenya.
as a Kenyan in diaspora am flattered to be even compared to SA. Kenya is a paradise operating way below its potential. For me, there is no city in the world that compares to Cape town. But honestly it is an apples to oranges comparison.
Regarding Chidimma issue, it was communicated by our Home Affairs office that she didn't obtain her documents legally so the outcry came from the fact that having illegal documents proves that she's not a South African. We wait to get further updates from the government regarding this matter. It is unfair that as South Africans, we have been labeled as Xenophobic because all we want is that those who are here must be here legally. They need to be properly documented.
Nobody said she is an immigrant, but just know before Chidinma there is a woman who lost her Identity to Chidinmas mother and today that woman is still suffering because of the identity stolen by chichi mom but let's not talk to much the law will take its course
@@WWTin2024There's lots of Chidimma' s with her family doing the samething in South Africa.. She's a part of the bigger picture and now the face of it.. The problem is way bigger than you think it is, so let's not fool ourselves
@@WWTin2024Undocumented and illegal Immigrants is a strain on the legal taxpayers in South Africa.. It also invites criminal activities and felons in this country that was never an issue
Serious misdiagnosis on SA culture. SA does not have a tribalism issue. We are united in our diversity, and all 9 African/vernacular languages are treated the same... we inter marry, we recognise our African spiritual practices, we practice cultural marriage practices, initiation schools for boys and girls is practised...we are proper Africans who love each other
@@precious5333no we don't. Not since the early 90s, when they were trying to divide and conquer the country. There is absolutely no tribalism in SA. How old are you? lol😂😂😂
I'm also surprised by her flawed sentiments. We're the most Africanized Africans...oh we don't even bear English,French and Arab names as our first names like them .
This is a great insight and very informative. Although I have not been to Kenya, I have been to South Africa several times. The have great infrastructure, good road network, fine dinning restaurants and great nightlife. God willing my intention is to relocate to SA from the UK in the near future.
There is no xenophobia in south Africa, there is just intolerance for illegal migration. Even though south africa has millions of illegal migrants from Zimbabwe and mozambique, anti-illegal migrants flairs would pop up as soon crime and inveniences caused by illegal migrants arise. It's usually quiet, but every now and then, south africans get tired of the issues caused by illegal migrants.
Imagine giving them roses whilst our children are dying from poisoned food that we welcomed them to sell in our communities. Fellow Africans lack accountability and it's maddening!!!
Xenophobia exists my bru. Maybe not within the circles you associate with, but it definitely exists; speaking from personal experience. I'm a Kenyan currently legally been in South Africa for the past 1 year and I've seen and experienced more than my fair share of xenophobia. And That was in Limpopo & Rustenburg. Had to move to Sandton amongst white people to feel at peace
You sound retarded who said only white people live in Sandton, majority are black South Africans and Limpopo is a province while Rustenburg is a city in NW so you never lived in SA ever in your life man@@kenyancitizen9952
I travel around Africa because of my work. RSA-Namibia-Botswana-Angola-DRC-Zimbabwe-Zambia-Lesotho-Eswatini-Malawi-Mozambique-Tanzania-Kenya-Ughanda-Ethiopia-South Sudan-Egypt-Ghana-Cot de Voire-Nigeria-Senegal-Sierra L.-Mauritius-Madagascar-Reunion. There's generally unease across Africa about UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS. Zambians about Congolese and Zimbabweans, Zimbabweans about Mozambiquans, South Africans about Zimbabweans and Nigerians, Ghanians about Nigerians, Tanzanians about Mozambiquans, Kenyans about Somalis, etc. If there was this "extreme" xenophobia in SA, the country couldn't be the leading country in Africa with undocumented population (+7 million as in 2024 StatSA). There are pockets of escalating tensions due to crime, violence and blatant irresponsibility from both parts (immigrants and locals), with Gauteng Province being the red-flashing zone (for obviouse reasons). Lastly, the economic dominent whites running established business are not helping either (especially in Cape Town and Gauteng Province), they always shut the locals off, in favour of easily exploited undocumented migrants. This is reversing the labour protection gains the country has accomplished over the years. Other than this, there are undocumented Africans in almost every village across MZANSI (currently dominating the informal business space in the country). If the country was that "xenophobic" is it is so grossly exagerrated, why will you get such people in all the least policed rural areas spread across the entire country with no crises of undocumented foreigners being violated?
@@jotosana I’m genuinely curious. Bantu language you mentioned is South African AND Kenyan is similar? Which tribes speak SA Bantu versus which tribes speak Kenyan Bantu? Are there other Bantu languages and tribes? I’ve never been to Africa but learned that my DNA is said to be of the Bantu people and matched up with Nelson Mandela’s line showing it has an unbroken line from mother to daughter to one woman who lived 17,000 years ago of course starting on the map in the region that looks like Kenya. It mentioned Xhosa and Bantu people. I m waiting for more details back from another African DNA report to get more granular. Spiritually I’ve been feeling pulled more and more to come to Africa and I keep landing on SA and Kenya, especially near mountains/ forests and cooler temperatures but not sure where that may be more pinpointed yet in either country. It is my hope to come to Africa from the US to live the rest of my life. I get emotional thinking of it as though GOD is calling me to home asap. Not sure if any others are feeling that way but I have.
@@IngstarGlobalVenturesOfficial Kikuyus, Luhyas, and Kambas are Kenyan Bantu tribes, just as South Africa has Bantu tribes like Zulu, Xhosa, and Sotho. Bantus dominate East, South, and Central Africa. Like you, Bantus love mountains! In Kenya, Kikuyus live near Mt. Kenya, and Luhyas near Mt. Elgon. Welcome home, Kamau!
@ Thank you so much for you helpful reply that is giving me a better understanding. Soon I will have more details about which tribe(s) I am more specifically connected to. In the end, it’s all good. Thanks for letting me know why I am always so drawn to mountains and love trees, forests, lakes over beaches and not so hot climate. Thank you again. Blessings! 🕊️
Where I need to correct you though, is regarding the "so-called" Xenophobia, SOuth Africans aren't xenophobic, we're just frustrated by the chaos brought by illegal immigrants, we also under siege. it has nothing top do with Apartheid
I don't know all about that. But could you describe for me the prospects of Amampondomise language being elevated to National language status? ❤❤4rm Nairobi!
@@Francisqolito Amampondomise are an independent tribe in their own right. Language wise, they have simulated into isiXhosa a common language spoken in the Eastern Cape Province. So they've long lost any sense of independent language from isiXhosa. So you no longer have amaMpondomise language, as all amaMpondomise have been speaking isiXhosa as their main language for more than 200yrs.
South Africans are not xenophobic. We have people from all over the world living here. We have a problem with illegals. Like it should be. She's making a example of Chidima while there is a story of illegal things behind it. Be real.
As someone from the U.K who is keen to make my way back to the continent, this was an incredible piece of content! Very balanced and well researched. Definitely looking forward to more content like this 🌍👍🏿
@@7yqgevdj6 Dude your delusional go check your facts, SA GDP 320 billion most of it comes from gold and diamond kenya GDP 130 billion no mineral dependent just high human resource and mix economy.
Have you been to SA? there are places where 80 % of the population live in Cape Town, you wouldnt live there even if you were paid. when people hear South Africa they see Camps bay, forgetting only 0,1 % of the locals live there.
In the next 10years, God-willing Kenya will be really developed (we are currently fixing the system). I hope we will retain our highly hospitalitable nature😊
That's what will mess us up in the future.We open c0untry to pple we have n0thing in c0mmon with & fr0m waring nations,that's a pr0blem.You have f0lk bn here 30plus yrs never intergrated.
@@7yqgevdj6 I believe that we can continue being nice and still succeed. Look at countries like Dubai (the UAE) and Singapore. They have a lot of foreigners and they don't force them to integrate, yet they are still prospering. Besides, Kenyans are naturally kind and hospitable (we only hate terrorism offenders but we are generally nice people)
@@7yqgevdj6 True,...in ten years half of Nairobi will be foreigners, especially the yahoo boys. We have to clean house soon and scare them the way SA does.
I'm from the UK. Me and my wife are looking to buy a second home in Cape Town.. it's a beautiful city. I think all people in the diaspora that are able should look at setting up a base somewhere on the continent.
If you are of European descent, Cape Town will be fine for you from the cold weather to the racial hierarchy. If you are African, Joburg would be better for you.
This was great! I'm looking at African countries where to consider to live In the next few years when retirement comes. I still want to be a digital nomad, and I am thinking of living a few months out of each year in each country. I'm heavily considering South Africa, Kenya, Ghana, and Rwanda. I'm hearing Nigeria's worth checking out as well.
@@phynnieWell said...Kenya on top....❤❤❤❤❤ Kenya keep on rising... leave no room for comparison.... South Africans....don't embrace their own.....(Black)
This is the type of content the world expects from people, rather than what the passport bros and digital nomads are doing-making noise without being able to articulate things for a global audience. This is professionally done and excellently presented.
@@planB-BacktoAfrica as a south african, you really disappointed me my sister by reading propaganda straight from the internet and being lazy to dig deep and find the true and accurate facts for your own self
12:40 South Africans are not xenophobic. They just dislike illegal immigration. There are around 5 million illegal immigrants in South Africa, that’s almost 10% of the total population of the country. The highest in Africa, I don’t think any country can accept that. It’s not that SA is anti immigrants, but it most certainly is anti illegal immigrants. Also, Chidima’s mother stole someone’s identity… that’s illegal, her being born in SA does not automatically afford her citizenship. In RSA law, you do not obtain citizenship by birth, but only by one or both of your parents being South African citizens. Neither of her parents were citizens. RSA is not xenophobic, just against illegal immigration.
That’s a sad excuse. People have been migrating back and forth all throughout the continent since the beginning of time, way before your colonizers drew imaginary lines in the sand and told you to focus on your own race and not them while they come and go with your resources on a regular basis.
@@warrenamos535 Laws and rules that teach Blacks to hate and discriminate against other blacks while giving all their praise and resources away to other races and nations. But my logic is flawed? Yeah ok bud
@@warrenamos535 Laws and rules that teach blacks to hate and discriminate against other blacks while giving all their praise, wealth and resources to other races and nations. But my logic is flawed? Yeah, ok bud.
@@thepresidentialking9190 yes 100% flawed,there is no such law or rule that teaches South African to hate other black people,we South Africans dislike the people coming to our country ILLEGALLY key word ILLEGALLY,same as any country from the USA,UK,CHINA POLAND ECT,you speak of the beginning of time people migrated no shit sherlock that was a different time those were lawless times,we no longer live in those times countries have borders for a reason to protect there people,so no shit we all have laws and rules we have to abide and our rescources are ours to do with what we want to so yeah bud.
Anybody come to South African must come legal other than that it's unconstitutional !!people want to come to South Africa illegal then after that make RUclips videos showing the world that SA is Xenophobia ,but they forgot that they broke the law's of the Republic 😢😢 to entering the country illegal ,it's hard to see any content creators talk about moving to other countries undocumented its unlawful . People in the last days they don't want to obey the law's, They want everything to be undemocratic. Chaos, no rule of law etc, but we welcome you sister with your family in this country with warm welcoming, we believe you will be very successful in this country, God bless you .
100% agree. Some of them hate the locals in SA and say bad things about them. But when they are asked to return to their original countries they refuse to go back.
Even legal foreigners are targets of xenophobia in this country and I think its high time we stop defending and denying what is a reality in South Africa and we can work towards resolving the issue
As a South african we love Kenyans. They are genuine and we do not see ourselves better than our brothers and sisters. Kenya is beautiful in it's own right..thank you for the video
Thanks it was very interesting and your very beautiful. I thought of moving to Cape Town from California. This information did help me. I would be interested in hearing about your journey and eventual relocating to South Africa.
I’m Kenyan, and back in the 80’s my dad travelled to South Africa, when all our passports were marked with a notice disallowing us from entry to South Africa. He returned with stories, beautiful postcards etc. My love for South Africa has been unwavering since. I thought about some of the comparison categories in this video and one was the nightlife. What nightlife could I have had as a black teenager in the 80’s in S.A during apartheid? Lowkey glad this woman is leaving Kenya. She rubs me the wrong way. Sorry South Africa, she’s your problem now. Fair warning, she’s an opportunist.
@@nathanagnew9167 why not South Africa, coz last time I checked SA only had problem with people coming without proper documents. If he/she gets the required documents to enter SA he/she will not have any problem touring SA...
As a SA'n watching on, I quite enjoyed watching this. Conducting a country comparison without coming across as dismissive of one over the other, can be quite a slippery slope; I reckon you avoided falling into those traps quite well. That fact about flight costs from SA to Ethiopia costing lower vis-a-vis those from Kenya to Ethiopia (which are even closer to one another) is quite 🤯 for me. It will be interesting to know how airline companies justify that. Great content overall, with brilliant editing.
Most flights from Nairobi to Addis and vice versa are nonstop and that's why they are equally the same price from Joburg/CPT nonstop flights. The $332 she has shown is not for nonstop flights.
I love your channel, you are objective and intentionally educating with your material. Keep this good work up. Xenophobia in South African surely has it's roots in our divided past. However, the black population in South Africa is known for their hospitality and Ubuntu (I am because you are)spirit. When the apartheid ended, black people took government and opened the country, relaxed the restrictions, developed the country, and championed human rights. We have always been so welcoming to migrant worker's, hence the diversity and influx of everybody from around the world choosing to come to the country to experience and make a better living. Most foreigners find it easier to support their countries from wealth and living wages generated here in SA. Unfortunately some foreigners have since taken advantage of this in a bad way by exploiting, disrespecting, abuse and spitting in the face of the host, and hence foreigners from specific groups have become synonymous with such bad wrap. And I think this is the fuel for this Xenophobia. This is further fueled by the high level of unemployment driven by poor policy execution where employers cut corners and exploit the work force, hire foreigners for their cheaper wage acceptance, etc. The chidimma Vanessa case is one where one really needs all facts before using that example. There is a certain narrative and association with fraud and all other sorts of exploitation with some people from Nigeria irrespective of where they are in the world. Most countries are known to have had enough with them...soo the narrative goes. Unfortunately for Vanessa, it was about the legitimacy, fraud and exploitation that brought about the saga, not that she had her roots traced from outside the country. If the allegations are true about her parent's identity theft case, and the ordeal the victims suffered, the spot light and empathy should be on the more legitimate victims, and not just Vanessa(she can blame her parents for that). South Africans are very intellectual people who understand their rights. It's unfortunate that in any country you do find good and bad apples, But traditionally and generally, South African are welcoming and inclusive, hence the rainbow 🌈 nation. You will not find a South African in a foreign country who does not live respectfully with the host.
the honest truth is that low income SA citizens are going through hell and whenever they voice their thoughts, they're stamped xenophobic by both foreigners and well-off South Africans who exploit foreigners for their cheap handwork, but South Africans feel sidelined by their own government
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Chidimma is playing a victim and going with the Xenophobic sentiments when the issue was and always has been about her fraudulently obtained citizenship, a criminal act.
You people lie too much we all know the reason for her hate was because of her roots u saw she was excelling and ur hate for Nigerians was what fueled everything,why didn’t u also feel the need to investigate those with asians names huh this wasn’t even the first case of this disgusting behavior u were killing black African not too long ago and destroyed their properties.you people keep on coming up with silly excuses for disgusting behavior all the time
Interesting video. I agree that housing options are better and more affordable in SA. Kenya has so much work to do. As for the xenophobia issue, what non-south africans need to realise is, there was an influx of Africans from other countries, too much and it wasn't well managed. Immigration should be properly managed to avoid too many foreigners moving in. That's what brings about xenophobic attitudes, especially when locals feel like their opportunities are being taken from them. Again, immigration isn't the problem, but rather improperly managed immigration.
Kenya has a very Very Very huge population of immigrants from neighboring countries with unstable governments and the input the immigrants have put in have immensely catapultted Kenyas economy. The citizens learned to use immigrants to their advantage instead of seeing them as competitions
@@polycarpkadima5385Haven't you seen the employers employing foreigners because they want to exploit them and pay them peanut salaries? That's what causing this violence. You can't employ foreigners and leave locals out who qualify to do the same job just because you want to exploit the foreigner. SA has the highest unemployment in Africa and what is happening is unfair to them. What I've also noticed is that Africans like SA to support them and feel for there problems but no African seems to care about South Africans and there problems. Everytime South Africans complain they are labled as being xenophobic.
@polycarpkadima5385 your comparison doesn't basis lacks understanding the background difference. In SA you have opportunities taken by labour force which exploits foreigners. We have some foreigner s who exploit the country and abuse citizens. That is not welcome
Weyni tnx for the information. Much respect. Wishing you succes. Few years ago me amd my wifead a decision to move to Africa from the west. No regrets. More information like this will make decisions much easier. Lots of Afrcan diaspora wants to move back to the mother land but are afried to do so. My advice is DO it. Yes you will face difficulty one way or the other but it is all worth it.
I really hate the Air Bnb business in SA specifically in capetown , foreigners shouldn't be allowed to buy property for RENTING purposes as it chases locals out and makes it expensive due to the foreigners from europe/america charging prices equivalent to their currencies .
Both countries are largely cashless. MPesa launched twice in South Africa and failed twice. The main reason is that just about everyone has a bank account and they use their bank cards, banking apps, tap their phones, watches and do international transfers from bank accounts. A few retail brands like Woolworths and Starbucks want to get rid of cash payments altogether in South Africa because they can as a result of this. It might be the informal sector that wants cash, but change is visible even there. Car guards in Joburg suburbs like Parkhurst are seen with card machines. SA is cashless, you just need a bank account to experience that.
actually kenyan has the highest number of banks in africa...you can look it up. Some schools in Ke make it mandatory to have accounts to prevent physical theft of money. Besides inventing mobile money, Kenyans introduced Chama bank systems where almost every older person. You get to have ypur money in almost 3 flexible systems.
MPesa does not affect Banking in any way. Most Kenyans have a Bank account & also an MPesa account. MPesa offers faster transactions than Banks because you can pay directly with your phone for any service. MPesa is also linked to your bank account which means you can directly access your money through MPesa without going to the bank. The Banks in Kenya are only used for Major transactions like purchasing Properties or currency exchange which makes Kenya's financial system the most efficient in the world. Businesses run very smoothly.
Im so disappointed in this beautiful lady, i followed her on tiktok 2years ago..but im not surprised of the bias..husband is nigerian, so naturally we know how those hate us for the truth..so arrogant and irrational, illogical and unreasonable these nigerians, not to mention the ethiopians killing us with their spaza food..no wonder the bias
Visiting South-Africa for the first time as an Afro-German (Capetown) was also a very surprising and positive experience for me. The country is beautiful. Being lucky to grow up in a very welcoming german environment the fact to be surrounded by all ethniticies felt very good to me. I immidiately felt home and thought about moving there, which i cannot, because as a musician i have much more oppotunities in germany and europe. But it was a great experience. Thanks for the nice video.
As a Kenyan in diaspora, i see a very big potential for kenya to grow in the near future. Kenya has has all you need to live a good all-balanced and entertaining life. I really miss my fellow Kenyans😭😭 the energy kenyans have is unmatched
I disagree with what you say at 19:05. The Nairobi-Moyale-Addis Ababa Road is one of the smoothest roads in Africa. And a long scenic 32-hour road trip. The ET side though is burdened by almost 50 roadblocks. The few insecurity spillovers are from KE’s neighbours, nothing to do with KE, but I get what you’re saying.
@@Mykorashchev you are right, nothing to do with kenya. You might be safe on this roadtrip but for me it would be very very dangerous. That’s why I stressed that the evaluation is based on my own cultural background and personal needs.
@@Cloud-zn5tl Totally irrelevant to my comment which you replied to. Let's keep it within the topic & content of the video. Anything else is irrelevant.
@@Cloud-zn5tl this is just laughable. The sheer level of jealousy you’re showing is beyond pathetic, it’s almost tragic. Imagine being so bitter that you waste your time trolling someone living a life you clearly envy. Every comment you make screams insecurity and envy, and it’s absolutely humiliating-for you. @planbacktoafrica, let this clown keep hating while you keep winning and inspiring. They’re just mad they’ll never be you!
@@Cloud-zn5tl this is just laughable. The sheer level of jealousy you’re showing is beyond pathetic-it’s almost tragic. Imagine being so bitter that you waste your time trolling someone living a life you clearly envy. Every comment you make screams insecurity and envy, and it’s absolutely humiliating-for you. @planB-BacktoAfrica, let this clown keep hating while you keep winning and inspiring. They’re just mad they’ll never be you!
I agree with many of the answers and for you it obviously makes much more economic and business sense to settle in ZA especially in regards to low cost start-ups, airfare and school fees.. I also agree that South Africa has better road infra but Kenya doesn't only border lawless Somalia, South Sudan and your country Ethiopia. The road to Ethiopia is actually excellent and makes for epic journeys through Marsabit and Moyale. Road trips to Tanzania and also Uganda are super. Many Kenyans, over 90%, feel more connection to the proper EAC neighbours - Uganda, Tanzania and Rwanda and feel less inclined to travel or connect to the first three countries I mentioned. Many Kenyans like Ethiopia from far though largely due to its imperial history and PanAfricanist stand of HIM Haile Selassie. However, many don't know or understand Ethio's recent politics - post 1974.
Some foreigners gave themselves a bad name in our country. Surprisingly you never hear SAns complain about Kenyans, Ghanaians, Cameroonians, Tanzanias, Namibians, Zambians, Swatis, Batswana, Malawians. Ask yourself why? SAns have a problem with selected group of people from a few African countries. With good reason.
Im tired of explaining myself to these youtubers they dont take time to research topics especially regarding SA just listen to how she speaks on the chidima issue she even said that girl has immersed herself in SA culture and language when it is totally wrong!She omits the fact that the wave of negativity is based on the fact that most economic migrants do crime because they dont have papers and mostly Nigerians and zimbabweans but as I said its not worth us explaining ourselves anymore
I agree with you the difference between Jhb and Capetown. Johannesburg is more inclusive of everyone and every ethnicity. And wealth difference is not so visible like in cape town.
Wish you peace and success as you move to South Africa. Hopefully you've found your forever home. Please keep the life update videos coming once you've settled in. Will be watching from Kenya.
Well I must write as a South African. You are truly a beautiful woman. It melts my heart to know , that you have decided to reside. In the land of my forefathers. As you put ure feet on the soil. May the ancestors start walking with you.
IAM a South African but your comparison was unfair on Kenya cause you only referred to Nairobi butin South Africa your point of references were Johannesburg ( the economic harbour of Africa and Cape town ( the number one favourite destination in Africa) but IAM impressed with your information about Kenya
Kenya's consistent growth and resilience set us apart. While South Africa's better economy has largely been shaped by foreign influences, Kenya has achieved remarkable development with minimal external involvement. Our progress is a testament to the hard work, innovation, and determination of our people. Comparing us to South Africa is proof of how far we've come, building a nation from within and standing strong on our own foundation. You won't believe!
Ma'am, in terms of the Chidima situation, you are completely misinformed. Her mother stole someone's identity in order to register Chidima as a South African. Being born in South Africa does not automatically mean you're a South African.
That's nothing to laugh about, you will only get Nigerians coming to Kenya even in larger numbers than they are now to x.e.x.u.a.l.l.y exploit our underage waschanas.
A well balanced analysis. I am a citizen of both countries. I live in Cape Town but am always in Kenya for my other family there. I totally agree with your analysis. On the xenophobia thing, most South Africans love people from other countries. It is not everywhere there are xenophobic attacks. And where they occur, they are normally instigated by a few politicians who use populist rethorics the young, unemployed ior not so well educated ones to gain votes. I remember here in Cape Town, when those who wanted to bring the dudula thing, the taxi (matatu) drivers, guided their businesses and refused to let it happen here. For their businesses, they need passengers, doesn't matter where they come from. Also South Africans who have properties rent out to both SAns and foreigners. They don't want anyone to interfere with the peace which will affect their income. I usually go to a place called Belleville on the outskirts of Cape Town to buy vegetables, sweet potatoes, arrow roots, yam. Here, you find both South Africans and foreigners trading together selling different types of fruit and veggies alongside each other . The place is full of Somali shops as well as locally owned shops. The provincial govt tries to ensure that people co - exist, people are enlightened and they know the value of each other. And remember, SA is a big country and there big expectations from many countries on her, so if there is a flare of xenophobia somewhere, it makes a major news on international media. Just my opinion
would like to hear what you have to say about Kenya in comparison to ZA. For the vlogger, I think Cape Town and Jhb check most of her needs and agrees with her soul which is the most important thing when looking to move to a new land. Mdleleni, as a Kenyan, I would be happy to hear what you think of Nairobi and Kenya in general and where its punching above weight or trailing ZA. Cheers!
@@DumeJeusi for me where Kenya punches above the line is the dissemination of important information to the public. This is done so well and the public is always educated and informed . Eg various information platforms are used to reach targetted demographic eg if it is matters of health and the govt wants to pass info like info on where to go for vital health check ups for lifestyle diseases eg BP, diabetes, they use radios, TV stations, Billboards etc. Radio ant TV stations usually invite doctors or experts in health to explain to the populace different issues re health eg causes of diseases, what to eat, different types of foods and what a person should do and where to go if in need etc. Another example is like when the prepaid electricity meters software needed to be updated recently, there was repeat messages on radios reminding people what to expect, and how to update their software etc. Here, we updated our software last year or so but the info was mainly sent on whatsapp groups, not much info on radios, Tvs. And where SA punches above the line is the way private medical places are efficiently structured. If I want to see my doctor, I phone, get appointment and when I go, they have my file ready and I see my doc. In Kenya, you just go, don't need to book an appointment, sit, wait for long etc. A doctor can be somewhere far and they will not tell you so. You wait. Which wastes your time. It is like private docs there care more of making money instead of patients' rights and time. This can't happen here. That is my take.
sorry for a fact Mombasa is more expensive than Nairobi. I live in an affluent neighborhood in Nairobi and is relatively cheaper compared to how much I used to pay in Mombasa nyali.
@@andrewndambuki6097 i agree it’s an important criteria, reason why I didn’t mention this is because both countries offer great reliable internet 🚀 power hasn’t been an issue either.
eish!! Eskom power cuts may have gotten better. The loadshedding over the past maybe 10yrs has been hell but we seem to have gotten better. Welcome to SA. Enjoy!
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Well I beg to differ power is an issue when you have power cut nearly half a day for 10years that cripple business what do you mean its not an issue, but any you have made you mind.
Wonderful video ❤ Very helpful! I’m looking to go to Kenya more likely near Mount Kenya ? and SA , (nature lover)Rwanda are on my research lists. More temperate weather , cooler and housing with yard and options for gardening or small Tree farming business with solid internet access for my remote business and desire to launch a local business for me and my two huskies are important factors. Any suggestions?
It indeed is. I think its unsafe though on some areas after you cross into Ethiopia due to negative ethnicity or armed tribal wars currently going on there. It's something she didn't comment on but I have seen in news articles. So, in this case, it may not be an option to her as she would be marked out for her ethnicity. The airfare between Nbo and Addis is OUTRAGEOUS!
This is one of the most balanced and informed comparisons I have ever seen. Generally in quality, SA leads. Kenya has its upside. I'm actually amazed there are no angry South Africans in the comments chiding you for daring to compare these. (There would be angry Nigerians if this was a Kenya-Naija comparison). Tax on imported goods is ridiculously high in Kenya, that's why imported goods are expensive.
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Thank you all for engaging in this discussion. I want to address the topic of xenophobia since many South Africans feel triggered by my assessment.
Firstly, born and raised in Germany, I see many similarities regarding xenophobia between both countries. However, in Germany, as in South Africa, the issue isn’t the migrants themselves, but the mismanagement of resources and the failure of the government to address these problems. What’s troubling is that rather than holding the government accountable, people often attack the weakest and most vulnerable-the migrants. This is plain wrong!!!
Let me also clarify that I am not excusing illegal immigration or the breaking of laws. However, it’s important to recognize that in both Germany and South Africa, the legal immigration processes are deeply flawed. Many people who migrate do so out of desperation, and the reality is that the systems in place make it nearly impossible for them to follow the legal route. This is something we should hold the government accountable for, not the migrants who are simply trying to find a better life.
What is most concerning is how people respond to illegal immigration. This is where human rights come into play. In any society, the way you handle challenges speaks to your values and respect for humanity. Violent attacks, burning shops down, and killing migrant workers show a complete disregard for basic human rights. Whether someone is documented or not, they deserve to be treated with dignity.
Regarding Chidimma, bullying a 23-year-old woman online for crimes she did not commit goes against our shared values of respect and humanity. Period!
Lastly, I understand that there are deep concerns in South Africa, and I empathize with the frustration over unemployment and lack of resources. But attacking migrants-whether they are legal or undocumented-is not the solution. It’s about how we treat people in the most difficult situations that truly reflects the values of a nation. South Africa has a long history of fighting for human rights, and we should never lose sight of that.
@@planB-BacktoAfrica we agree let's look a solution, we South African we must force our government to do better in this regard, thank you 🙏
You never have a think piece or solutions for the countries where all these m!grants are running away from just like the runaways themselves, it's like you don't want anything to improve there,,,,,,South Africa is not Germany.
@@dennisflo9284 I repeat, In ANY society, the way you handle challenges speaks to your values and respect for humanity!
For fear of becoming a troll, this will be my last comment! Just wanna say we will not apologise for defending the future of our children. I don’t care so much about documented or not though those who do are correct. What I care about is the livelihood of my family and those around me. Yes we have a problem of corruption and bribery in our government and law enforcement and if you know something about us is that we take action against those South Africans as well “there are protests every week in South Africa fighting against that. So in the same light we cannot allow others to do wrong because they are foreigners!!! How do you respect someone human right who does not respect your human rights?
My stance which will remain unchanged whether I’m called xenophobic or not is:
-If you sell drugs to my children and I report it and nothing happens to you! I will do whatever is in my power to protect my children (If you are a parent you know what I mean)
- If you sell toxic and expired foods to my children and I report and nothing happens to you! I will burn down your store.
If you cannot comprehend these two points above, then maybe you should choose another country to stay because you be disappointed. We will not stop defending our livelihoods period.
There are still thousands of Ethiopians owning stores here is South Africa (I buy from one everyday) and we live gracefully with them because they do nothing wrong. But all the bad elements we will root them.
And you know in all fairness South Africa is a very kind place to immigrants, our laws allow opportunities to everyone immigrants or not. In fact it is one of the most welcoming places in Africa that is the reason why even with the bad publicity those who know South Africa as yourself do not want to leave as compared to the experiences in other African countries. Ethiopia for example: I have been to Addis and Lalibela in 2019 and in the 7 days I was there, I have never even seen ONE SHOP owned by a foreign national🤷🏾♂️ that in itself says a lot about how Ethiopian laws are designed accommodate foreigners🤔
I do understand why your view of South Africa on this topic is a little harsh! It is obviously tainted by your Nigerian influence. Hence you refuse to acknowledge that there was illegal activity with Chidima’s saga therefore she should not be allowed to represent us.
Her parents failed her, NOT South Africans
Dear Mrs Plan B,
Thank you for the informative video on South Africa and Kenya. Your analysis was insightful, but you briefly touched on a sensitive issue: xenophobia, which has now sparked a heated debate in your comment section.
I respect your attempt to clarify your perspective, but comparing Germany's migrant challenges to South Africa’s is somewhat misplaced. I won’t delve into the nuanced differences between xenophobia in Germany and South Africa, but I will say this: migration in South Africa has evolved into an organised syndicate, supported not just by governments but also by corporate interests, as well as wealthy and middle-class South Africans through the demand for cheap labor. An incompetent government certainly exacerbates this crisis, but it doesn’t change the reality that migration is a ticking time bomb here.
The issue with us, so-called "clever blacks," is assuming that impoverished township communities, who bear the brunt of this crisis, have the luxury to intellectualise what is, for them, a life-or-death situation.
I agree with you on the importance of upholding basic human rights. Violence is never the answer, but try telling that to someone who is living in extreme poverty, with their only hope being young adults reliant on government institutions like public hospitals, clinics, schools, and welfare grants. Parents are watching their children grapple with drug addiction (often linked to foreign nationals) and alcohol abuse as a means of coping with the lack of opportunities.
Given all this, it's clear that the migrant issue in Germany is not comparable to the one in South Africa. In my view, the German situation is more cultural, whereas ours is deeply tied to economic, political, and organized criminal syndicates funded by foreign governments.
I could go on, but perhaps you should consider hosting a live-stream discussion on RUclips. I'd be happy to participate and even help organize it, so you can hear more about the deeper issues facing South Africans.
Once again, I fully support respecting basic human rights. We must find a peaceful way to address this issue. I believe South Africans are, by nature, peaceful people, but I cannot tell someone in desperation how to behave when their survival is at stake. Instincts take over when one is pushed to the limit. Look at Palentine and Isreal, including the Russia and Ukrain. You cannot tell me that these people just woke up and went to war, something triggered them and for whatever reasons, they decided to kill and die for what they believe in. It is sad and completely unacceptable, but only an ideal world.
As a Kenyan who have visited SA twice. SA is our big brother who you look up to and want to be like shout out to mzansi.
Kenyans are the most understanding people.. easy to get along with.. Simply amazing people.. Proud of our Kenyan brothers and Sisters ❤️
as south african we love kenya we relate to kenya
Thanks for those wonderful words and shout out to you too Kenyan people for building your country it's so nice to be LOVED as South Africans because these days we be getting hate for nothing big love 👊🏾👊🏾
Big Love
Huyu si mkenya😂
As a South African, we welcome all who come to our country legally and while here, respect and obey our laws. It's that simple. I've been to our neighbouring countries (Eswatini, Mozambique, Lesotho, Zimbabwe and Botswana). I had to produce a valid passport for them to allow me entry to their countries. While there, I never felt entitled, I always respect the people and their way of life. I've read so much about Kenya's history and would love to visit someday. South Africans love Kenyans and you are welcome to visit anytime.
@brianmash9722 There are many people who live legally there and I lived there upon a time. The issue however is xenophobia against the people who live legally there...
I went to university there many years aggo, completed and work for 1 or 2 years after... Still I was reminded it was not home. Against the whites, I was a black man (mampara as they said...) and against black South Africans, I was a kwerekwere...
I said a kwerekwere like ME will not just be bullied like that... I will study even FURTHER and will make even MORE valuable... Which I did. I and my partner employ many other people... including South Africans in engineering, agri-business, transport& logistics, etc.
To brag a bit (if you know other good boerers), we may between 10t to 15 thousands USD per MONTH to knowledge assertive boerers with experience and GOOD references. If they come to Katanga or Kasaï. We give a year contract renewable.
I was not there in Johannesburg by just choice, but a kwerekwere like ME was just too VALUABLE to be bullied or humiliated.... I came across very good South Africans though and we are friends even today. I really like and appreciate them... They used to love my humor of pulling them up when we faced white discrimination... I USED TO SAY... A KWEREKWERE like me can NOT afford to see us down like this... Let us work and prove them wrong... And we worked at Iscor (Arcelor Mittal)... Bbbbrrr then white people would tell them, be like him (me the kwerrekwere:) :)!!)... We laughed, supported and respected each other... I have missed them although I visited South Africa here and there.... Let us not bring down the African DIGNITY... Kenya is EXTRAORDINARY... I FEEL HOME IN KENYA and love my breakfast at Serena hotel... Kenyans have made it on their own without the Muzungu (white boeres)... Maybe that is why they UNDERSTAND the African dignity... I would leave my 5 star hotel to go exploring in Kibeira... I know Kileleswe, Athi River just like West Land. South Africa is NO way close to that...
HOWEVER bad xenophobia was, I thank YOU.... It has brought us to think about building our Congo. I am an alumni student from Wits, investing in different African countries (including my HOME, Dr Congo) and in Europe. A VERY proud kwerekwere!!!
There are also good South Africans though... By the way, where I grew up, our neighbors of MANY YEARS were ANC refugees... We liked them and used to say they are brothers to Ivon Chaka Chaka:)! :)! They will free Mandela some days... The brother of Steve Biko... We watched the movies of freedom fighters at school to cherish who were and what we had. Thjs made us feel and fight for South Africans... By the way, our then President supported the ANC with weaokns and financially... Thjs is why ANC refugees were well taken care of... Now when I got as a 18 hears old student in South Africa and became a kwerekwere... IT WAS TRAUMATISING... I completed my university anyway and LEFT SOUTH AFRICA at the very first opportunity.... I lived in Gauteng, the Vaal Triangle and visited Cape town and Durban... Poor young foreigner... Amakwerkwere.. Eeeeiiissshhh
As a Kenyan I relate more with southern Africa countries than north and west maybe because of culture similarities. S.A is in my list we are coming soon YEBO!!!
yawa! nikii? ubolaa shina ewe? tungrulong'miet?
hahaa! Good luck with google translate
You can also hear some of our local languages
@@phynnie why have you decided to punish me way before I get there 😊
@@SabzKhumalo yes the languages, the songs resonate well with us.
@@joelgitui9573 I also want to come but first, Mozambique, Zambia, Namibia, Botswana again, Tanzania then Kenya and Madagascar. I really don't want to travel overseas overseas before Africa.
I’m South African, besides gems like Botswana and Namibia, if I where to ever leave SA (which I never will, not even for USA) I’d go to Rwanda or kenya
South Africa + Kenya + Ghana (- Nigeria) = Motherland
love the people of Kenya and have much respect for its Gen Z, crazy that they look just like us, a dna investigation has to be conducted about bantu expansion/migration
@@jam-fam because we are bantu even swahili is very similar to shona
As a South Africa, Kenya is my love.
We love south Africans. Welcome to Kenya bro
As a born and raised South African, I’ve been to Europe and lived 15 years of my life working and studying in Canada. I’ve met a lot of people from Somalia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya, Ghana even South Africans in Canada. And they all love and respect South Africa! A year ago I decided to move back to South Africa and it’s been the best decision. There’s so much we take for granted that people else where would die to have in this country! It sometimes feels like we’re extra privileged to have so much of what we have here. I’ll be living in Cape Town soon 😊
Brother can you tell me how you studied abroad in Canada as South African
Welcome back home brethren 🎉❤
South Africa is something amazing. I'm from Italy, my wife from CT and is not impossible that we will move there one day.
@@giordanostramare why not?
Great video and a wonderful comparison. As an African American that has visited South Africa, the people stole my heart along with an incredible experience, which is why I'm relocating there. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
You're are very welcomed, my dear brother
Welcome back home my brother ❤️
@@ntombomzisitshomo6897 Thank you. I really appreciate it!
I am a South African and plan to visit Kenya in December, i love Kenyan people,
Go to zimbabwe
@@sonofsoweto I was there in January this year
We love South Africans too.
@@sonofsowetoWhy go there when Zimbabwe is already here 😂
@mrsoshadabaadman 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 you are right.
I agree! I cried when leaving Johannesburg 😢❤ man I love South Africa so much
@@BeFreewithmaeliabee I feel you 🫶🏾
😂😂 Maybe we take our country for granted
@@MfezekoMatshoba 🤣 trust me yall have so much peace there compared to the US
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Where is your Nigerian 🇳🇬 husband? This is the result of African women like you coming abroad and becoming westernized.
Thank you and please come back soon
I lived with Kenyan brothers, i found them very genuine free-spirited people to live with. I would really love to visit Kenya, it should be a great country. From Pretoria, SA.
As a South African whose has visited Kenya, I can tell you that Kenya is easily one of the best countries I have visited on the continent. When I got to the airport in Nairobi, I saw a sign that said "welcome home" and became emotional because it truly felt like home. I love you Kenya.
Proudly South African here ❤🇿🇦
as a Kenyan in diaspora am flattered to be even compared to SA. Kenya is a paradise operating way below its potential. For me, there is no city in the world that compares to Cape town. But honestly it is an apples to oranges comparison.
How long have you been in diaspora i doubt if your kenyan
Kenya is it's own class lady... it can't be compared with any country in Africa.
Always put yourself first
@@iasproduction2993 if you that in south Africans call us Xenophobic. we are being bullied by other Africans.
@@frankfrantix20 years in diaspora. Lived innkenya my first 26.
Regarding Chidimma issue, it was communicated by our Home Affairs office that she didn't obtain her documents legally so the outcry came from the fact that having illegal documents proves that she's not a South African. We wait to get further updates from the government regarding this matter. It is unfair that as South Africans, we have been labeled as Xenophobic because all we want is that those who are here must be here legally. They need to be properly documented.
Chidimma is not an immigrant, she was born, raised and educated in South Africa.
Nobody said she is an immigrant, but just know before Chidinma there is a woman who lost her Identity to Chidinmas mother and today that woman is still suffering because of the identity stolen by chichi mom but let's not talk to much the law will take its course
@@Uzalo_101Chidinma is the least of SA problems. Worry about the thousands of palm color people coming because of Home Affairs Minister Leon Schreibe.
@@WWTin2024There's lots of Chidimma' s with her family doing the samething in South Africa.. She's a part of the bigger picture and now the face of it.. The problem is way bigger than you think it is, so let's not fool ourselves
@@WWTin2024Undocumented and illegal Immigrants is a strain on the legal taxpayers in South Africa.. It also invites criminal activities and felons in this country that was never an issue
Serious misdiagnosis on SA culture. SA does not have a tribalism issue. We are united in our diversity, and all 9 African/vernacular languages are treated the same... we inter marry, we recognise our African spiritual practices, we practice cultural marriage practices, initiation schools for boys and girls is practised...we are proper Africans who love each other
I agree 100%.
We actually do, Im guessing you aren't African
@@precious5333no we don't. Not since the early 90s, when they were trying to divide and conquer the country. There is absolutely no tribalism in SA. How old are you? lol😂😂😂
@@precious5333Aybo amanga wena,South Africans aren't tribalist,you find so many groups of friends with different tribes amongst them
I'm also surprised by her flawed sentiments. We're the most Africanized Africans...oh we don't even bear English,French and Arab names as our first names like them .
This is a great insight and very informative. Although I have not been to Kenya, I have been to South Africa several times. The have great infrastructure, good road network, fine dinning restaurants and great nightlife. God willing my intention is to relocate to SA from the UK in the near future.
if you talk about infrastructure don't listen to youtube advice come and see our infrastructure is at par with first world nations
I agree with u, both countries have many benefits. But I prefer South Africa also.
Here in Kenya we're looking up to the South Africa. It's the big brother
As South African we love Kenya and kenyans🎉
@luckymolaudzi1985 we love you soo much here in Kenya ❤
There is no xenophobia in south Africa, there is just intolerance for illegal migration. Even though south africa has millions of illegal migrants from Zimbabwe and mozambique, anti-illegal migrants flairs would pop up as soon crime and inveniences caused by illegal migrants arise. It's usually quiet, but every now and then, south africans get tired of the issues caused by illegal migrants.
Imagine giving them roses whilst our children are dying from poisoned food that we welcomed them to sell in our communities. Fellow Africans lack accountability and it's maddening!!!
There NO intolerance for politicians who created unemployment, South Africans are afraid of their evil politicians, it's easier to attack immigrants.
Xenophobia exists my bru. Maybe not within the circles you associate with, but it definitely exists; speaking from personal experience. I'm a Kenyan currently legally been in South Africa for the past 1 year and I've seen and experienced more than my fair share of xenophobia. And That was in Limpopo & Rustenburg. Had to move to Sandton amongst white people to feel at peace
You sound retarded who said only white people live in Sandton, majority are black South Africans and Limpopo is a province while Rustenburg is a city in NW so you never lived in SA ever in your life man@@kenyancitizen9952
I travel around Africa because of my work. RSA-Namibia-Botswana-Angola-DRC-Zimbabwe-Zambia-Lesotho-Eswatini-Malawi-Mozambique-Tanzania-Kenya-Ughanda-Ethiopia-South Sudan-Egypt-Ghana-Cot de Voire-Nigeria-Senegal-Sierra L.-Mauritius-Madagascar-Reunion. There's generally unease across Africa about UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS. Zambians about Congolese and Zimbabweans, Zimbabweans about Mozambiquans, South Africans about Zimbabweans and Nigerians, Ghanians about Nigerians, Tanzanians about Mozambiquans, Kenyans about Somalis, etc. If there was this "extreme" xenophobia in SA, the country couldn't be the leading country in Africa with undocumented population (+7 million as in 2024 StatSA). There are pockets of escalating tensions due to crime, violence and blatant irresponsibility from both parts (immigrants and locals), with Gauteng Province being the red-flashing zone (for obviouse reasons). Lastly, the economic dominent whites running established business are not helping either (especially in Cape Town and Gauteng Province), they always shut the locals off, in favour of easily exploited undocumented migrants. This is reversing the labour protection gains the country has accomplished over the years. Other than this, there are undocumented Africans in almost every village across MZANSI (currently dominating the informal business space in the country). If the country was that "xenophobic" is it is so grossly exagerrated, why will you get such people in all the least policed rural areas spread across the entire country with no crises of undocumented foreigners being violated?
I respect Nairobi, the capital of Africa. Said as a South African.
awuphilanga wena facts zakho? lol
@@siziwetobie5818 Hehee. South african bantu language. Just like my Kenyan bantu language
arumikhilanga esti facts !
@@jotosana I’m genuinely curious. Bantu language you mentioned is South African AND Kenyan is similar? Which tribes speak SA Bantu versus which tribes speak Kenyan Bantu? Are there other Bantu languages and tribes? I’ve never been to Africa but learned that my DNA is said to be of the Bantu people and matched up with Nelson Mandela’s line showing it has an unbroken line from mother to daughter to one woman who lived 17,000 years ago of course starting on the map in the region that looks like Kenya. It mentioned Xhosa and Bantu people. I m waiting for more details back from another African DNA report to get more granular. Spiritually I’ve been feeling pulled more and more to come to Africa and I keep landing on SA and Kenya, especially near mountains/ forests and cooler temperatures but not sure where that may be more pinpointed yet in either country. It is my hope to come to Africa from the US to live the rest of my life. I get emotional thinking of it as though GOD is calling me to home asap. Not sure if any others are feeling that way but I have.
@@IngstarGlobalVenturesOfficial Kikuyus, Luhyas, and Kambas are Kenyan Bantu tribes, just as South Africa has Bantu tribes like Zulu, Xhosa, and Sotho. Bantus dominate East, South, and Central Africa. Like you, Bantus love mountains! In Kenya, Kikuyus live near Mt. Kenya, and Luhyas near Mt. Elgon. Welcome home, Kamau!
@ Thank you so much for you helpful reply that is giving me a better understanding. Soon I will have more details about which tribe(s) I am more specifically connected to. In the end, it’s all good. Thanks for letting me know why I am always so drawn to mountains and love trees, forests, lakes over beaches and not so hot climate. Thank you again. Blessings! 🕊️
Where I need to correct you though, is regarding the "so-called" Xenophobia, SOuth Africans aren't xenophobic, we're just frustrated by the chaos brought by illegal immigrants, we also under siege. it has nothing top do with Apartheid
I don't know all about that. But could you describe for me the prospects of Amampondomise language being elevated to National language status? ❤❤4rm Nairobi!
@@Francisqolito No such language exists in SA
@@thabo3866 what do you make of this agitation for Amampondomise?
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@@thabo3866 what do you make of this agitation for Amampondomise?
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@@Francisqolito Amampondomise are an independent tribe in their own right. Language wise, they have simulated into isiXhosa a common language spoken in the Eastern Cape Province. So they've long lost any sense of independent language from isiXhosa. So you no longer have amaMpondomise language, as all amaMpondomise have been speaking isiXhosa as their main language for more than 200yrs.
Very honest and informative video. Shout out to both countries
Much appreciated!
South Africans are not xenophobic. We have people from all over the world living here. We have a problem with illegals. Like it should be. She's making a example of Chidima while there is a story of illegal things behind it. Be real.
As someone from the U.K who is keen to make my way back to the continent, this was an incredible piece of content! Very balanced and well researched. Definitely looking forward to more content like this 🌍👍🏿
Glad to here that you found some value in this episode 🙏🏾
What a choice🇰🇪🇿🇦
THIS was propaganda mr sir
Im kenyan but comparing kenya and satafrika.The truth is we not comparable,sa wayyy ahead of us.Ps don't lie to kenyans that we in same category.
No they are not
@@jessicah-22
440 billion usd gdp compared to 44 billion gdp.Thats being realistic
@@7yqgevdj6 Dude your delusional go check your facts, SA GDP 320 billion most of it comes from gold and diamond kenya GDP 130 billion no mineral dependent just high human resource and mix economy.
@@7yqgevdj6 I think you mean Uganda dude, Uganda's GDP is 45B, the comment is about Kenya.
Have you been to SA? there are places where 80 % of the population live in Cape Town, you wouldnt live there even if you were paid. when people hear South Africa they see Camps bay, forgetting only 0,1 % of the locals live there.
In the next 10years, God-willing Kenya will be really developed (we are currently fixing the system). I hope we will retain our highly hospitalitable nature😊
That's what will mess us up in the future.We open c0untry to pple we have n0thing in c0mmon with & fr0m waring nations,that's a pr0blem.You have f0lk bn here 30plus yrs never intergrated.
@@7yqgevdj6 I believe that we can continue being nice and still succeed. Look at countries like Dubai (the UAE) and Singapore. They have a lot of foreigners and they don't force them to integrate, yet they are still prospering.
Besides, Kenyans are naturally kind and hospitable (we only hate terrorism offenders but we are generally nice people)
@CompassionQueen
Theres a difference those people will go home after their stay,but in your country they not going home anytime sooon
@@7yqgevdj6 True,...in ten years half of Nairobi will be foreigners, especially the yahoo boys. We have to clean house soon and scare them the way SA does.
Kenyans are peaceful and gentle people. South Africans get along very well with Kenyans.
I love me some Kenyans brothers and Sistas....Shout out from 🇿🇦
@@reginaldm707 🫶🏾
Great video. Very interesting and informative.
I'm from the UK. Me and my wife are looking to buy a second home in Cape Town.. it's a beautiful city. I think all people in the diaspora that are able should look at setting up a base somewhere on the continent.
yes go stay in the DRC
@@nathanagnew9167 excuse me?
If you are of European descent, Cape Town will be fine for you from the cold weather to the racial hierarchy. If you are African, Joburg would be better for you.
This was great! I'm looking at African countries where to consider to live In the next few years when retirement comes. I still want to be a digital nomad, and I am thinking of living a few months out of each year in each country. I'm heavily considering South Africa, Kenya, Ghana, and Rwanda. I'm hearing Nigeria's worth checking out as well.
Kenya for life
for real for real, and no one beats us in hospitality. Huko mtu haezi feel at home.
@@phynnieWell said...Kenya on top....❤❤❤❤❤
Kenya keep on rising... leave no room for comparison....
South Africans....don't embrace their own.....(Black)
Now you are talking 254 for life
Weyni I love this episode, and big Fan of yours
I myself SA born and a German citizen looking to find my place in Africa!
This is the type of content the world expects from people, rather than what the passport bros and digital nomads are doing-making noise without being able to articulate things for a global audience. This is professionally done and excellently presented.
Thank you 🙏🏾
@@planB-BacktoAfrica as a south african, you really disappointed me my sister by reading propaganda straight from the internet and being lazy to dig deep and find the true and accurate facts for your own self
Thanks for the shout out Weyni, we do hope that SA can be a great place for you and your family to plant roots.
12:40 South Africans are not xenophobic. They just dislike illegal immigration. There are around 5 million illegal immigrants in South Africa, that’s almost 10% of the total population of the country. The highest in Africa, I don’t think any country can accept that. It’s not that SA is anti immigrants, but it most certainly is anti illegal immigrants. Also, Chidima’s mother stole someone’s identity… that’s illegal, her being born in SA does not automatically afford her citizenship. In RSA law, you do not obtain citizenship by birth, but only by one or both of your parents being South African citizens. Neither of her parents were citizens. RSA is not xenophobic, just against illegal immigration.
That’s a sad excuse. People have been migrating back and forth all throughout the continent since the beginning of time, way before your colonizers drew imaginary lines in the sand and told you to focus on your own race and not them while they come and go with your resources on a regular basis.
@@thepresidentialking9190 flawed logic,countries have laws and rules.
@@warrenamos535 Laws and rules that teach Blacks to hate and discriminate against other blacks while giving all their praise and resources away to other races and nations. But my logic is flawed? Yeah ok bud
@@warrenamos535 Laws and rules that teach blacks to hate and discriminate against other blacks while giving all their praise, wealth and resources to other races and nations. But my logic is flawed? Yeah, ok bud.
@@thepresidentialking9190 yes 100% flawed,there is no such law or rule that teaches South African to hate other black people,we South Africans dislike the people coming to our country ILLEGALLY key word ILLEGALLY,same as any country from the USA,UK,CHINA POLAND ECT,you speak of the beginning of time people migrated no shit sherlock that was a different time those were lawless times,we no longer live in those times countries have borders for a reason to protect there people,so no shit we all have laws and rules we have to abide and our rescources are ours to do with what we want to so yeah bud.
Love this video, you are spot on my sister. I love how you compare these countries with love not trying to pull one or another down.
Anybody come to South African must come legal other than that it's unconstitutional !!people want to come to South Africa illegal then after that make RUclips videos showing the world that SA is Xenophobia ,but they forgot that they broke the law's of the Republic 😢😢 to entering the country illegal ,it's hard to see any content creators talk about moving to other countries undocumented its unlawful . People in the last days they don't want to obey the law's, They want everything to be undemocratic. Chaos, no rule of law etc, but we welcome you sister with your family in this country with warm welcoming, we believe you will be very successful in this country, God bless you .
Talk to much bro
100% agree. Some of them hate the locals in SA and say bad things about them. But when they are asked to return to their original countries they refuse to go back.
Even legal foreigners are targets of xenophobia in this country and I think its high time we stop defending and denying what is a reality in South Africa and we can work towards resolving the issue
@@precious5333#Facts, thanks for your brutal honesty!
@@josephdesouse4320🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love how your analysis is backed by research and facts
As a South african we love Kenyans. They are genuine and we do not see ourselves better than our brothers and sisters. Kenya is beautiful in it's own right..thank you for the video
This is so sweet. We love you guys too.
Thanks it was very interesting and your very beautiful. I thought of moving to Cape Town from California. This information did help me. I would be interested in hearing about your journey and eventual relocating to South Africa.
I’m Kenyan, and back in the 80’s my dad travelled to South Africa, when all our passports were marked with a notice disallowing us from entry to South Africa. He returned with stories, beautiful postcards etc. My love for South Africa has been unwavering since. I thought about some of the comparison categories in this video and one was the nightlife. What nightlife could I have had as a black teenager in the 80’s in S.A during apartheid? Lowkey glad this woman is leaving Kenya. She rubs me the wrong way. Sorry South Africa, she’s your problem now. Fair warning, she’s an opportunist.
😂😂 this really took an unexpected turn
Thanks for the heads up ✌🏼 🇿🇦
😂😅😂😅😂
I wish she stayed in Kenya. There's very few things that are exciting about her.
Great review and fantastic to the point presentation!
very good analysis, planning a trip to SA
no please not South Africa
@@nathanagnew9167 why not South Africa, coz last time I checked SA only had problem with people coming without proper documents. If he/she gets the required documents to enter SA he/she will not have any problem touring SA...
Thank you for sharing. It was very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
More like dis-informative you mean? In that case..agreed.
As a SA'n watching on, I quite enjoyed watching this. Conducting a country comparison without coming across as dismissive of one over the other, can be quite a slippery slope; I reckon you avoided falling into those traps quite well. That fact about flight costs from SA to Ethiopia costing lower vis-a-vis those from Kenya to Ethiopia (which are even closer to one another) is quite 🤯 for me. It will be interesting to know how airline companies justify that. Great content overall, with brilliant editing.
Most flights from Nairobi to Addis and vice versa are nonstop and that's why they are equally the same price from Joburg/CPT nonstop flights. The $332 she has shown is not for nonstop flights.
Great and informative video Weyni.
Great vlog today 👊🏿 very informative 👊🏿🇿🇦👊🏿
Glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏾
..and full of misinformation as well, wouldn't you say?
Great video, and looking forward to you arriving in South Africa
I love your channel, you are objective and intentionally educating with your material. Keep this good work up.
Xenophobia in South African surely has it's roots in our divided past.
However, the black population in South Africa is known for their hospitality and Ubuntu (I am because you are)spirit. When the apartheid ended, black people took government and opened the country, relaxed the restrictions, developed the country, and championed human rights. We have always been so welcoming to migrant worker's, hence the diversity and influx of everybody from around the world choosing to come to the country to experience and make a better living. Most foreigners find it easier to support their countries from wealth and living wages generated here in SA.
Unfortunately some foreigners have since taken advantage of this in a bad way by exploiting, disrespecting, abuse and spitting in the face of the host, and hence foreigners from specific groups have become synonymous with such bad wrap. And I think this is the fuel for this Xenophobia. This is further fueled by the high level of unemployment driven by poor policy execution where employers cut corners and exploit the work force, hire foreigners for their cheaper wage acceptance, etc.
The chidimma Vanessa case is one where one really needs all facts before using that example. There is a certain narrative and association with fraud and all other sorts of exploitation with some people from Nigeria irrespective of where they are in the world. Most countries are known to have had enough with them...soo the narrative goes. Unfortunately for Vanessa, it was about the legitimacy, fraud and exploitation that brought about the saga, not that she had her roots traced from outside the country. If the allegations are true about her parent's identity theft case, and the ordeal the victims suffered, the spot light and empathy should be on the more legitimate victims, and not just Vanessa(she can blame her parents for that).
South Africans are very intellectual people who understand their rights. It's unfortunate that in any country you do find good and bad apples, But traditionally and generally, South African are welcoming and inclusive, hence the rainbow 🌈 nation.
You will not find a South African in a foreign country who does not live respectfully with the host.
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
This no Xenophobic in South Africa 🇿🇦, If foreigners nationals come here in South Africa 🇿🇦 illegal. I don't want that is South Africans.
the honest truth is that low income SA citizens are going through hell and whenever they voice their thoughts, they're stamped xenophobic by both foreigners and well-off South Africans who exploit foreigners for their cheap handwork, but South Africans feel sidelined by their own government
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Chidimma is playing a victim and going with the Xenophobic sentiments when the issue was and always has been about her fraudulently obtained citizenship, a criminal act.
You people lie too much we all know the reason for her hate was because of her roots u saw she was excelling and ur hate for Nigerians was what fueled everything,why didn’t u also feel the need to investigate those with asians names huh this wasn’t even the first case of this disgusting behavior u were killing black African not too long ago and destroyed their properties.you people keep on coming up with silly excuses for disgusting behavior all the time
Thank you for this eye opener and educative video, your presentation is superb,.
Interesting video. I agree that housing options are better and more affordable in SA. Kenya has so much work to do. As for the xenophobia issue, what non-south africans need to realise is, there was an influx of Africans from other countries, too much and it wasn't well managed. Immigration should be properly managed to avoid too many foreigners moving in. That's what brings about xenophobic attitudes, especially when locals feel like their opportunities are being taken from them. Again, immigration isn't the problem, but rather improperly managed immigration.
Black South Africans don't complain about the white people coming in from Europe and other countries.
Kenya has a very Very Very huge population of immigrants from neighboring countries with unstable governments and the input the immigrants have put in have immensely catapultted Kenyas economy. The citizens learned to use immigrants to their advantage instead of seeing them as competitions
Toxic 😂
@@polycarpkadima5385Haven't you seen the employers employing foreigners because they want to exploit them and pay them peanut salaries? That's what causing this violence. You can't employ foreigners and leave locals out who qualify to do the same job just because you want to exploit the foreigner. SA has the highest unemployment in Africa and what is happening is unfair to them. What I've also noticed is that Africans like SA to support them and feel for there problems but no African seems to care about South Africans and there problems. Everytime South Africans complain they are labled as being xenophobic.
@polycarpkadima5385 your comparison doesn't basis lacks understanding the background difference. In SA you have opportunities taken by labour force which exploits foreigners. We have some foreigner s who exploit the country and abuse citizens. That is not welcome
Weyni tnx for the information. Much respect. Wishing you succes. Few years ago me amd my wifead a decision to move to Africa from the west. No regrets. More information like this will make decisions much easier.
Lots of Afrcan diaspora wants to move back to the mother land but are afried to do so.
My advice is DO it. Yes you will face difficulty one way or the other but it is all worth it.
I really hate the Air Bnb business in SA specifically in capetown , foreigners shouldn't be allowed to buy property for RENTING purposes as it chases locals out and makes it expensive due to the foreigners from europe/america charging prices equivalent to their currencies .
Such an incredible thesis about the comparison between SA and Kenya, awesome..👌
Both countries are largely cashless. MPesa launched twice in South Africa and failed twice. The main reason is that just about everyone has a bank account and they use their bank cards, banking apps, tap their phones, watches and do international transfers from bank accounts. A few retail brands like Woolworths and Starbucks want to get rid of cash payments altogether in South Africa because they can as a result of this. It might be the informal sector that wants cash, but change is visible even there. Car guards in Joburg suburbs like Parkhurst are seen with card machines. SA is cashless, you just need a bank account to experience that.
actually kenyan has the highest number of banks in africa...you can look it up. Some schools in Ke make it mandatory to have accounts to prevent physical theft of money. Besides inventing mobile money, Kenyans introduced Chama bank systems where almost every older person. You get to have ypur money in almost 3 flexible systems.
MPesa does not affect Banking in any way. Most Kenyans have a Bank account & also an MPesa account. MPesa offers faster transactions than Banks because you can pay directly with your phone for any service. MPesa is also linked to your bank account which means you can directly access your money through MPesa without going to the bank. The Banks in Kenya are only used for Major transactions like purchasing Properties or currency exchange which makes Kenya's financial system the most efficient in the world. Businesses run very smoothly.
Im so disappointed in this beautiful lady, i followed her on tiktok 2years ago..but im not surprised of the bias..husband is nigerian, so naturally we know how those hate us for the truth..so arrogant and irrational, illogical and unreasonable these nigerians, not to mention the ethiopians killing us with their spaza food..no wonder the bias
Visiting South-Africa for the first time as an Afro-German (Capetown) was also a very surprising and positive experience for me. The country is beautiful. Being lucky to grow up in a very welcoming german environment the fact to be surrounded by all ethniticies felt very good to me. I immidiately felt home and thought about moving there, which i cannot, because as a musician i have much more oppotunities in germany and europe. But it was a great experience. Thanks for the nice video.
As a Kenyan in diaspora, i see a very big potential for kenya to grow in the near future. Kenya has has all you need to live a good all-balanced and entertaining life.
I really miss my fellow Kenyans😭😭 the energy kenyans have is unmatched
Amazing comparison! Was in both countries and can feel your comparison points for sure! Keep it going!
Thank you, will do 🙏🏾
"Keep it going"?..with the propaganda as well? If i may ask? mr Marvin sir?
I disagree with what you say at 19:05. The Nairobi-Moyale-Addis Ababa Road is one of the smoothest roads in Africa. And a long scenic 32-hour road trip. The ET side though is burdened by almost 50 roadblocks. The few insecurity spillovers are from KE’s neighbours, nothing to do with KE, but I get what you’re saying.
@@Mykorashchev you are right, nothing to do with kenya. You might be safe on this roadtrip but for me it would be very very dangerous. That’s why I stressed that the evaluation is based on my own cultural background and personal needs.
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Oh yeah, that's true, now that I remember the trips I took there, you wouldn't be safe, wouldn't probably get through.
@@Cloud-zn5tl Totally irrelevant to my comment which you replied to. Let's keep it within the topic & content of the video. Anything else is irrelevant.
@@Cloud-zn5tl this is just laughable. The sheer level of jealousy you’re showing is beyond pathetic, it’s almost tragic. Imagine being so bitter that you waste your time trolling someone living a life you clearly envy. Every comment you make screams insecurity and envy, and it’s absolutely humiliating-for you. @planbacktoafrica, let this clown keep hating while you keep winning and inspiring. They’re just mad they’ll never be you!
@@Cloud-zn5tl this is just laughable. The sheer level of jealousy you’re showing is beyond pathetic-it’s almost tragic. Imagine being so bitter that you waste your time trolling someone living a life you clearly envy. Every comment you make screams insecurity and envy, and it’s absolutely humiliating-for you. @planB-BacktoAfrica, let this clown keep hating while you keep winning and inspiring. They’re just mad they’ll never be you!
This was a very fun and informative video to watch
I agree with many of the answers and for you it obviously makes much more economic and business sense to settle in ZA especially in regards to low cost start-ups, airfare and school fees.. I also agree that South Africa has better road infra but Kenya doesn't only border lawless Somalia, South Sudan and your country Ethiopia. The road to Ethiopia is actually excellent and makes for epic journeys through Marsabit and Moyale. Road trips to Tanzania and also Uganda are super. Many Kenyans, over 90%, feel more connection to the proper EAC neighbours - Uganda, Tanzania and Rwanda and feel less inclined to travel or connect to the first three countries I mentioned. Many Kenyans like Ethiopia from far though largely due to its imperial history and PanAfricanist stand of HIM Haile Selassie. However, many don't know or understand Ethio's recent politics - post 1974.
Quite fair, balanced and objective comparison of both countries. Much love from Kenya 🇰🇪
Really good breakdown. Well done. Spot on I think.
Some foreigners gave themselves a bad name in our country.
Surprisingly you never hear SAns complain about Kenyans, Ghanaians, Cameroonians, Tanzanias, Namibians, Zambians, Swatis, Batswana, Malawians. Ask yourself why? SAns have a problem with selected group of people from a few African countries. With good reason.
Im tired of explaining myself to these youtubers they dont take time to research topics especially regarding SA just listen to how she speaks on the chidima issue she even said that girl has immersed herself in SA culture and language when it is totally wrong!She omits the fact that the wave of negativity is based on the fact that most economic migrants do crime because they dont have papers and mostly Nigerians and zimbabweans but as I said its not worth us explaining ourselves anymore
Hatred towards black Africans from any nation is inexcusable really!
It's good to learn and share I love your character
I agree with you the difference between Jhb and Capetown. Johannesburg is more inclusive of everyone and every ethnicity. And wealth difference is not so visible like in cape town.
Thanks a lot, I have been trying to decide between Kenya & South Africa, and South Africa won!
Why not move to Ethiopia or Eritrea. That’s your ancestry and are equally good countries.
Or Nigeria where her partner or ex is from? I am just curious. I am not in any way trying to make her feel a certain type of way.
She is free
Because she chooses SA dummy
Please go back to Eritrea and Ethiopia
Go and develop your country please.
@@DumeJeusiAll she wanted was to make kids with him and keep it pushing . She’s not the typical traditional Ethiopian
Great video. Great perspective. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wish you peace and success as you move to South Africa. Hopefully you've found your forever home. Please keep the life update videos coming once you've settled in. Will be watching from Kenya.
Thank you 🙏🏾 will definitely do!
An excellent presentation. THANKS
Well I must write as a South African. You are truly a beautiful woman. It melts my heart to know , that you have decided to reside. In the land of my forefathers. As you put ure feet on the soil. May the ancestors start walking with you.
Very informative, Weyni! Comparing the countries on ease of getting residence (for different nationalities) would have been great to cover as well.
@@asmarinodude thank you 🙏🏾 Kenya definitely wins here. Especially with the new government in SA, immigration laws and regulations got stricter!
Awesome, thanks!
IAM a South African but your comparison was unfair on Kenya cause you only referred to Nairobi butin South Africa your point of references were Johannesburg ( the economic harbour of Africa and Cape town ( the number one favourite destination in Africa) but IAM impressed with your information about Kenya
In Kenya she only went to their biggest city..in SA there are more world class cities than in Kenya
Thank you for such great insights.
My Kenya 🇰🇪 ❤
Kenya's consistent growth and resilience set us apart. While South Africa's better economy has largely been shaped by foreign influences, Kenya has achieved remarkable development with minimal external involvement. Our progress is a testament to the hard work, innovation, and determination of our people. Comparing us to South Africa is proof of how far we've come, building a nation from within and standing strong on our own foundation. You won't believe!
I will choose kenya
me too. It has everything south africa lacks
@@phynnieha ha like what?
@@phynnie We lack nothing here 🇿🇦.
@@GraysonBothma-f1y Let's see
1. hospitality - can't beat us
2. friendliness - unmatched
3. peace - everywhere
4. racial tensions - none
5. wokeness - nil
6. abominable relationships - not legal
7. less westernized
8. love s. Africans
9. marathons - don't even try that
10. Africanism - authentic
@phynnie everything that you just mentioned there is subjective. South Africa is better than Kenya in almost everything that's factual.
Well spoken and unbiased ma'am. Thanks a lot.
Ma'am, in terms of the Chidima situation, you are completely misinformed. Her mother stole someone's identity in order to register Chidima as a South African. Being born in South Africa does not automatically mean you're a South African.
What an awesomee break-down...Enjoyed your insight and perspectives...thanks for sharing. 💯%. 💜🙏🏽💜👍🏽
You are so welcome
Kenya recently introduced Digital Nomad Visa which should be interesting
That's nothing to laugh about, you will only get Nigerians coming to Kenya even in larger numbers than they are now to x.e.x.u.a.l.l.y exploit our underage waschanas.
Yes. That is great. SA introduced it last year, if I remember we'll.
WoW, @ Weyni you did your Homework quite Good...👌👌
A well balanced analysis. I am a citizen of both countries. I live in Cape Town but am always in Kenya for my other family there. I totally agree with your analysis. On the xenophobia thing, most South Africans love people from other countries. It is not everywhere there are xenophobic attacks. And where they occur, they are normally instigated by a few politicians who use populist rethorics the young, unemployed ior not so well educated ones to gain votes. I remember here in Cape Town, when those who wanted to bring the dudula thing, the taxi (matatu) drivers, guided their businesses and refused to let it happen here. For their businesses, they need passengers, doesn't matter where they come from. Also South Africans who have properties rent out to both SAns and foreigners. They don't want anyone to interfere with the peace which will affect their income. I usually go to a place called Belleville on the outskirts of Cape Town to buy vegetables, sweet potatoes, arrow roots, yam. Here, you find both South Africans and foreigners trading together selling different types of fruit and veggies alongside each other . The place is full of Somali shops as well as locally owned shops. The provincial govt tries to ensure that people co - exist, people are enlightened and they know the value of each other. And remember, SA is a big country and there big expectations from many countries on her, so if there is a flare of xenophobia somewhere, it makes a major news on international media. Just my opinion
Thanks for taking your time to give a better insight. It’s highly appreciated 🙏🏾
Well said 👏 👌 💯🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Well put. Often the xenophobia topic is looked at from one angle.
would like to hear what you have to say about Kenya in comparison to ZA. For the vlogger, I think Cape Town and Jhb check most of her needs and agrees with her soul which is the most important thing when looking to move to a new land. Mdleleni, as a Kenyan, I would be happy to hear what you think of Nairobi and Kenya in general and where its punching above weight or trailing ZA. Cheers!
@@DumeJeusi for me where Kenya punches above the line is the dissemination of important information to the public. This is done so well and the public is always educated and informed . Eg various information platforms are used to reach targetted demographic eg if it is matters of health and the govt wants to pass info like info on where to go for vital health check ups for lifestyle diseases eg BP, diabetes, they use radios, TV stations, Billboards etc. Radio ant TV stations usually invite doctors or experts in health to explain to the populace different issues re health eg causes of diseases, what to eat, different types of foods and what a person should do and where to go if in need etc. Another example is like when the prepaid electricity meters software needed to be updated recently, there was repeat messages on radios reminding people what to expect, and how to update their software etc. Here, we updated our software last year or so but the info was mainly sent on whatsapp groups, not much info on radios, Tvs. And where SA punches above the line is the way private medical places are efficiently structured. If I want to see my doctor, I phone, get appointment and when I go, they have my file ready and I see my doc. In Kenya, you just go, don't need to book an appointment, sit, wait for long etc. A doctor can be somewhere far and they will not tell you so. You wait. Which wastes your time. It is like private docs there care more of making money instead of patients' rights and time. This can't happen here. That is my take.
I like your balanced match up
How long that it takes you for the government to give you residency to stay in kenya
@@ExtrattKoompa I already have a residency and the process took 3 months
This video is speaking to my soul! ❤❤❤❤
SA is overloaded already, give us some space
TRUE😂😂😂CAN WE PLEASE BREATHE AS SOUTH AFRICANS 😂😂
please we are not taking any SA residence applications for now please...😂😂 give us a break😂
Yeah right...Mmmmmmmm!
Wow!...
You already have alot of space....learn to utilize it
Hhay shut up wena 😂😂😂
I agree with your views as someone born and raised in Nairobi and has visited South Africa.
I'm Kenyan and I love your explanations.Respectul, factual and in-depth.Good job
It was all propaganda read from the internet
Entertaining and informative as usual Weini!
Glad you enjoyed it
sorry for a fact Mombasa is more expensive than Nairobi. I live in an affluent neighborhood in Nairobi and is relatively cheaper compared to how much I used to pay in Mombasa nyali.
Correct 💯
I'll be visiting kenya in January. I'm very excited about it
Yes i 💯. South Africans can party like no other Africans i know
This video is very timely as I started the real estate market research in Kenya and South Africa.
Go with SA a lot of fraud with regards to land and companies in Kenya. As she said structures in Kenya are not well developed like South Africa.
One important criteria you missed is reliable power and internet.
@@andrewndambuki6097 i agree it’s an important criteria, reason why I didn’t mention this is because both countries offer great reliable internet 🚀 power hasn’t been an issue either.
eish!! Eskom power cuts may have gotten better. The loadshedding over the past maybe 10yrs has been hell but we seem to have gotten better. Welcome to SA. Enjoy!
And SA wins in both.
@@planB-BacktoAfrica Well I beg to differ power is an issue when you have power cut nearly half a day for 10years that cripple business what do you mean its not an issue, but any you have made you mind.
@bandisasimelane2115 Loadshedding only gotten worse in 2022, before that, e would have Loadshedding in winter only.
Wonderful video ❤ Very helpful! I’m looking to go to Kenya more likely near Mount Kenya ? and SA , (nature lover)Rwanda are on my research lists. More temperate weather , cooler and housing with yard and options for gardening or small Tree farming business with solid internet access for my remote business and desire to launch a local business for me and my two huskies are important factors. Any suggestions?
Kenya and Ethiopia have excellent road connection
It indeed is. I think its unsafe though on some areas after you cross into Ethiopia due to negative ethnicity or armed tribal wars currently going on there. It's something she didn't comment on but I have seen in news articles. So, in this case, it may not be an option to her as she would be marked out for her ethnicity. The airfare between Nbo and Addis is OUTRAGEOUS!
This is one of the most balanced and informed comparisons I have ever seen. Generally in quality, SA leads. Kenya has its upside. I'm actually amazed there are no angry South Africans in the comments chiding you for daring to compare these. (There would be angry Nigerians if this was a Kenya-Naija comparison). Tax on imported goods is ridiculously high in Kenya, that's why imported goods are expensive.
Crime in SA is like a lifestyle.
So much of a lifestyle that so many illegal immigrants have decided to add to it despite our constant fights against criminal activities. Sad...
SA blames everything on immigrants. Xenophobic
Crime is SA is due to weak courts and luxury prisons
Yep, law enforcement is very weak in SA, hence the high crime rate.
@@kkcceSouth Africa does not need any help in that department. You guys are doing a splendid jobc.
By number 3, I knew the choice would be SA 😂😂❤. Good luck and thanks for this comparison