Gotta tell ya bud i watch alot of video's from all the big names Dudley and so on. You really break it down. alot of the little nuances you show most others don't i appreciate the way you go into detail about every little detail.. good job my guy! I would love too send you a video and have you critique me ..
I started shooting a wrist strap on my thumb release about a year ago and it completely changed my game. Thanks for making me feel smart lol. Glad you're back, Bud!
Excellent video, I needed to know the objectives of the correct form. I have a bad chicken wing elbow so I confirmed my draw length and now I am focused on my wrist elbow at pull through. Thanks again I have changed my draw a lot this year hoping to get it right. I was pinching my shoulder drawing with my arm causing pain that has led me here. I think my draw is better I am using a push pull and trying to get that back to do the work and not my arm.
I am new to your channel and you do a really good job of explaining things. I’m brand new to the thumb button release and the making the slight fist way works the best for me. Your video on increasing bow weight to factory by twisting cables and strings brought the bow back to spec. It surprised me on how the bow can be in time but not enough preload on limbs. Thanks so much for your help! Bob
Thanks for the Contant. Definitely help me figure out a couple of things I was doing wrong. What I realized was, I had my elbow, a little too high, which ultimately it was also lifting my shoulder up good job on explaining one of the few people that I understood everything you were trying to get through to us.
I followed your approach today at the range and experienced less to no pain in my elbow. I noticed more pain before when I fully gripped the release, but not today. Thank you once more for your videors. I really appreciate the contents and keep up the good work.. Cheers
Thanks for the lesson! I just got a Prime Black 3 bow left handed and I was doing some research on it and I came across your review on this same bow! Very nice and I am in the process of getting this setup. I used to use the wrist releases and a friend of mine let me use his thumb release and I have never looked back. The thumb release feels a lot better than a wrist release, at least it does for me. Thanks again and looking forward to seeing some more. :)
Thank you for the lesson! I've watched many videos on the 'best' way to shoot a thumb release. Even your other ones 😉. But this was the first time I understood how to get my hand into the relaxed position. I was concerned about the release slipping out of my hand and by adding the 4 finger attachment (Scott Pursuit) it made it feel more secure. Which allows me to relax a but more.
Very Informative. Thanks, John ps. I'm using a 'Resistance' Release as a Thumb Release Trigger, with the Thumb Button as the Safety and the poundage set ~10 lbs below my holding weight. It's Sublime 🙂
The question ❓ Which release would you use for hunting??? I purchased the new Onnex thumb release from you and absolutely love it!!!!!! Smooth as glass! No travel and very crisp trigger. Thanks for selling this to me!!!! Need to come down and meet!!!!
Thank you for the great video. One question: Where did you get the extra long thumb barrel extension? The ones that come with the Onnex are BOTH too small.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I personally think if you can use a hinge with gloves on I would totally do it. A true back tension could be harder to execute when you have nerves. I personally hunt with a hinge and I have never not had a surprise shot on an animal. The index release would be most simple for sure, It’s definitely gonna help you out with gloves on and if you NEED to punch the trigger I think it’s better to to have the index release. I hope this helped🤙🏼.
I know this is an old video but i have a question, im a pse guy, love they're bows, the evolve cam, especially the S2. Anyway, pse went to a fixed cable roller on the Evolve DS vs whats on prior models like the Fortis. Is there an advantage to a fixed, rigid cable roller vs a slide. I noticed my Fortis 30 ec2 cam is faster than my Evolve DS 30 ec2 cam. Same arrow, same draw, same everything. I wonder if its the fixed roller guard. Now with that being said there is a noticeable difference in accuracy with my Evolve DS. Better accuracy than the Fortis. Its not major but i group tighter with the DS. Wonder if thats due to the cable guard. Thanks
I wish I watched this before I got mine. Eventually I got it but I lost a few arrows. So many times the bow pulled me a tiny bit off the back wall, because of trying to relax my hand. Natural reflex is to grab the release, boom of it flys. Amazingly about 70 percent of the time I actually got the target. But the ones that didn’t went through my metal shed. My trailer. Heaps of trees. So deep into the ground China complained, and several I never heard hit anything nor saw them leave. It’s like they just vanished from the bow.
Brett, RUclips John Dudley and another site “ bow only outdoors “ and watch their vids on proper thumb button use. These two have it down 100%. Stop shooting at targets until you can control it. Get like 5 feet from a target THAT IS LEVEL WITH YOU and then try what these videos show you. I’ve been using releases of every type since they were invented and I guarantee you IF YOU WILL DILIGENTLY practice what’s in those videos you will shoot great.
So their is a lot of talk about nock pinch and tension on the stings for face pressure I haven’t found anything about the d loop twist from the anchor point, does this have any affect on accuracy? (palm out )
I am just switching from hinge to handheld. Where should the thumb trigger lie against the thumb? I have extended tge bar on mine to get it well behind the first thumb joint into tge fleshy part. Is this correct? Really useful video, thanks. Good to see you back.
I feel it is more critical than that. I have been struggling to get a consistent thumb position, which I am sure is important. I also think that thumb position can affect how flat the draw hand is and how clean the break is. I will keep working on it.
I have one that I made and it is really useful for practicing with the release. The hand and thumb positions are starting to feel more consistent. As the break is becoming more natural the whole shot seems much steadier when shooting the bow. Still some way to go but the progress is really encouraging. Thanks for your help and advice.
Hey will you comment on your anchor and peep alignment with your perfex and uv hinge? I have the same releases and the uv hinge neck is so much longer. Are you able to shoot both with the same poi out of your bow?
Yeah it’s really hard to find two releases that are different brands that will anchor/hit the same. A lot of companies are now making a hinge and thumb release with the same handle so you can switch between them without dealing with what you’re talking about
Oh Danny mccartney He says he comes back with his hand his hand really tight then wraps his thumb around and as he relaxes his 4 arm and his hand that's what his shot brings and that's exactly how I shoot a thumbbutton and a hingerelease
So lengthening the d loop could get the back shoulder to drop "IF" your draw length is correct? Because that seems to me my issue at the moment I think. My anchors are set really good but seems like my rear shoulder is still too high
I’ve noticed with my Stan resistance that I have hooked to a wrist strap like Kellen does in this video allows me to relax my hand way better. I’m thinking of throwing one one my thumb too to see if it allows me to relax that hand better.
Glad to see you back not many of us lefties
Amen! 👊🏻🏹
The best videos on archery. Period. All things archery. Thanks man
I just picked up my first thumb and totally see what you're saying. I had to shorten my draw length, but I think I was too long with the index.
Gotta tell ya bud i watch alot of video's from all the big names Dudley and so on. You really break it down. alot of the little nuances you show most others don't i appreciate the way you go into detail about every little detail.. good job my guy! I would love too send you a video and have you critique me ..
I started shooting a wrist strap on my thumb release about a year ago and it completely changed my game. Thanks for making me feel smart lol. Glad you're back, Bud!
I just switched to a handheld a few weeks ago. I immediately started shooting better and it felt totally natural.
Thank you so much!!! I’ve been struggling with tendinitis in my forearm and now I know why. This helped me tremendously 🤙🏻
Excellent video, I needed to know the objectives of the correct form. I have a bad chicken wing elbow so I confirmed my draw length and now I am focused on my wrist elbow at pull through. Thanks again I have changed my draw a lot this year hoping to get it right. I was pinching my shoulder drawing with my arm causing pain that has led me here. I think my draw is better I am using a push pull and trying to get that back to do the work and not my arm.
I am new to your channel and you do a really good job of explaining things. I’m brand new to the thumb button release and the making the slight fist way works the best for me. Your video on increasing bow weight to factory by twisting cables and strings brought the bow back to spec. It surprised me on how the bow can be in time but not enough preload on limbs. Thanks so much for your help! Bob
Thanks for the Contant. Definitely help me figure out a couple of things I was doing wrong.
What I realized was, I had my elbow, a little too high, which ultimately it was also lifting my shoulder up good job on explaining one of the few people that I understood everything you were trying to get through to us.
I followed your approach today at the range and experienced less to no pain in my elbow. I noticed more pain before when I fully gripped the release, but not today.
Thank you once more for your videors. I really appreciate the contents and keep up the good work.. Cheers
Just in time! The right advices I needed thank you so much for the effort you put in these videos!
Thanks for the lesson! I just got a Prime Black 3 bow left handed and I was doing some research on it and I came across your review on this same bow! Very nice and I am in the process of getting this setup. I used to use the wrist releases and a friend of mine let me use his thumb release and I have never looked back. The thumb release feels a lot better than a wrist release, at least it does for me. Thanks again and looking forward to seeing some more. :)
Glad you back
This is gonna be a helpful video to a lot of people. Glad the videos are coming back!
Awesome!!! Thank you. Going to work on this. 🎯
Thank you for the lesson! I've watched many videos on the 'best' way to shoot a thumb release. Even your other ones 😉. But this was the first time I understood how to get my hand into the relaxed position. I was concerned about the release slipping out of my hand and by adding the 4 finger attachment (Scott Pursuit) it made it feel more secure. Which allows me to relax a but more.
Very Informative.
Thanks,
John
ps. I'm using a 'Resistance' Release as a Thumb Release Trigger, with the Thumb Button as the Safety and the poundage set ~10 lbs below my holding weight.
It's Sublime 🙂
Great info and glad your back 🏹🎯
The question ❓ Which release would you use for hunting??? I purchased the new Onnex thumb release from you and absolutely love it!!!!!! Smooth as glass! No travel and very crisp trigger. Thanks for selling this to me!!!! Need to come down and meet!!!!
Great content!!
Excellent Video per usual! Very important to properly engage correctly if you want to be consistent. Thanks buddy!!!!
Thank you for the great video. One question: Where did you get the extra long thumb barrel extension? The ones that come with the Onnex are BOTH too small.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
A lot of good information.
Do you think a hinge is good to hunt whitetail with , like a true back tension or is a finger trigger better
I personally think if you can use a hinge with gloves on I would totally do it. A true back tension could be harder to execute when you have nerves. I personally hunt with a hinge and I have never not had a surprise shot on an animal. The index release would be most simple for sure, It’s definitely gonna help you out with gloves on and if you NEED to punch the trigger I think it’s better to to have the index release. I hope this helped🤙🏼.
I know this is an old video but i have a question, im a pse guy, love they're bows, the evolve cam, especially the S2. Anyway, pse went to a fixed cable roller on the Evolve DS vs whats on prior models like the Fortis. Is there an advantage to a fixed, rigid cable roller vs a slide. I noticed my Fortis 30 ec2 cam is faster than my Evolve DS 30 ec2 cam. Same arrow, same draw, same everything. I wonder if its the fixed roller guard. Now with that being said there is a noticeable difference in accuracy with my Evolve DS. Better accuracy than the Fortis. Its not major but i group tighter with the DS. Wonder if thats due to the cable guard. Thanks
I wish I watched this before I got mine. Eventually I got it but I lost a few arrows. So many times the bow pulled me a tiny bit off the back wall, because of trying to relax my hand. Natural reflex is to grab the release, boom of it flys. Amazingly about 70 percent of the time I actually got the target. But the ones that didn’t went through my metal shed. My trailer. Heaps of trees. So deep into the ground China complained, and several I never heard hit anything nor saw them leave. It’s like they just vanished from the bow.
Brett, RUclips John Dudley and another site “ bow only outdoors “ and watch their vids on proper thumb button use. These two have it down 100%. Stop shooting at targets until you can control it. Get like 5 feet from a target THAT IS LEVEL WITH YOU and then try what these videos show you. I’ve been using releases of every type since they were invented and I guarantee you IF YOU WILL DILIGENTLY practice what’s in those videos you will shoot great.
@@timbow50 thank you 🙏
Hey bro I’m in the exact same boat as you! Couple holes in my garage 😑
😂
🤣 loved the line, "so deep in the ground China complained."
So their is a lot of talk about nock pinch and tension on the stings for face pressure I haven’t found anything about the d loop twist from the anchor point, does this have any affect on accuracy? (palm out )
I am just switching from hinge to handheld. Where should the thumb trigger lie against the thumb? I have extended tge bar on mine to get it well behind the first thumb joint into tge fleshy part. Is this correct? Really useful video, thanks. Good to see you back.
Think this is more of a personal preference as long as it allows for a relaxed hand and clean break.
I feel it is more critical than that. I have been struggling to get a consistent thumb position, which I am sure is important. I also think that thumb position can affect how flat the draw hand is and how clean the break is. I will keep working on it.
@@timjoinson7232 pick up a shot trainer if you don’t have one yet
I have one that I made and it is really useful for practicing with the release. The hand and thumb positions are starting to feel more consistent. As the break is becoming more natural the whole shot seems much steadier when shooting the bow. Still some way to go but the progress is really encouraging. Thanks for your help and advice.
What’s that wrist thing that the release is tied to?
Hey will you comment on your anchor and peep alignment with your perfex and uv hinge? I have the same releases and the uv hinge neck is so much longer. Are you able to shoot both with the same poi out of your bow?
Yeah it’s really hard to find two releases that are different brands that will anchor/hit the same. A lot of companies are now making a hinge and thumb release with the same handle so you can switch between them without dealing with what you’re talking about
Notice a decrease in vibration after the string stop install?
Do you have the ‘release training aid’ you’re using in the shop? Thanks…
They do! I wanna say they are around $25ish
So I would say there's gotta be the exception
Oh Danny mccartney He says he comes back with his hand his hand really tight then wraps his thumb around and as he relaxes his 4 arm and his hand that's what his shot brings and that's exactly how I shoot a thumbbutton and a hingerelease
So lengthening the d loop could get the back shoulder to drop "IF" your draw length is correct? Because that seems to me my issue at the moment I think. My anchors are set really good but seems like my rear shoulder is still too high
Correct
Does that explain my tennis elbow pain?
Could be but I’m not sure
I believe the rollers r hdpe or delrin
Hey is that peep twisting on you?
Yes that's a lot different then what I'm saying
I’ve noticed with my Stan resistance that I have hooked to a wrist strap like Kellen does in this video allows me to relax my hand way better. I’m thinking of throwing one one my thumb too to see if it allows me to relax that hand better.
Watching on high speed film sounds wayyy more legit 😂
still waiting for advice on my thumb button questions ?🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ 20:12
Sorry, there are so many comments don’t see them/ can’t answer them all. What’s your question?
My problem is I have to punch because my aim is isn't steady enough for the pull through. 🏹🤠👍
Weird, his bicep flexes while making a fist? You might have a motor control problem.
?? Haha