Man, if he didn't have those knee issues and Owen didn't damage his neck, we couldve gotten him on the Ruthless Aggression era. He could've lasted as long as HBK and retired at Wrestlemania 27.
he revealed years ago that his back was giving out due to the stunners…he didn’t have as long as fans believe, he might have had five or six more years at most before his back was too damaged to compete
@bostonrailfan2427 The greats and their finishers are always a detriment. Hogan's leg drop fucked him up. Randy Orton's RKO messed up his back and the same is for Austin?
@@cliffbot638 Orton’s real problem is his shoulders, which aren’t impacted by the move…Hogan lies frequently, his move wouldn’t hurt as much as he lets on and he rarely got seriously physical so he needs something to blame his own lack of ability in-ring on anything but himself
@@jasondyrkacz8270 I think he was Trying to do Austin like Hogan where Lesnar rips through both of the former top guys them beats the top guy in the rock
That Piledriver took at least 10-15 years off of his career and it’s sad to see. I absolutely would’ve loved to see Stone Cold have singles FULL LENGTH feuds with Ruthless Aggression Era guys like Umaga, JBL, Randy Orton, Batista, etc. I personally believe if Steve didn’t get dropped on his head/neck, he would’ve been at least a 10-12x WWE & World Heavyweight Champion in total by the time he did decide to retire.
Stone cold was washed by 2003. He's a one dimensional wrestler with no other personality.. people were already getting bored by 2003 of his same character. He flopped as a heel and went back to face.. Austin would've been boring as hell if he continued wrestling until early 2010s. The rock is better
@TOMMY.ROBINSON The heel turn was a huge mistake but he could've found a way to freshen up his character. Like Hogan did with the NWO. Something to fit in with the Ruthless Aggression era.
even with that extra time his back would have still given out alongside his knees: his stunner was destroying both his back and knees with the former giving out visibly and the latter not being seen but hastened by his broken back in 2002 had he had a better, less intense move he would have had a good decade at the top before he transitioned into a part-timer
That jeff jarret story about the paycheck only for austin to later become one of if not (arguably) most iconic wrestler(s) of all time. While jarret was nothing more than mid compared to austin is straight karma.
@@Natz519 where all the wrestlers came. LOL TNA did not get everyone. Just some WWE guys who were either past their prime or getting close or drugged out of their mind.
He went to WCW & became world champion. Then founded TNA lol. & it was not "Karma" It was "Austin" He had a hissy fit because Jerret made a joke about his paycheck years before. I'm sorry but that's a woman right there.
@@mattsspelman1457 Jeff Jarret was a mid card talent at best. And the bosses kid making a joke about pay checks is bad form all around. Imagine defending a nepo baby.
Part of the reason for the heat with Hogan is partly because of his friends who came in. Most notably, Hacksaw Jim Duggan who was brought in and booked to beat Steve Austin for the US Title in 35 seconds. And then had to put up with Duggan constantly burying him, by telling everyone that Austin was sandbagging him during the rematches. Meanwhile every idea that Austin tried to pitch just got shot down. Everything from working a programme with Randy Savage or Ricky Steamboat, to reuniting the Hollywood Blondes. Ahmed Johnson meanwhile got such a bad reputation, that pretty much nobody wanted to work with him. The nail in the coffin for his potential main event push, was probably when he injured Ron Simmons by kicking him so hard that he lacerated Ron's liver. And of course Ron Simmons came back and returned the favour by beating the crap out of Ahmed, and kicking him so hard that he broke three of his ribs. Which the entire locker room watched through the curtain, and supported Ron over. But there was no way that Austin in his run to the main event was going to work with Ahmed Johnson because of how sloppy he was, especially after the neck injury. And Johnson was gone from the WWF by February 1998.
I heard the story about Austin's reaction after Jarrett's promo and thought what a big baby he was. That was a perfectly viable heel promo. However, that extra color about Austin's treatment under Jarrett's dad makes it make a lot more sense.
I think HHH's promo to kofi was 10x worse/awkward when he was like "aint you Jamaican? Where's the accent?" Lmao some wrestlers just don't wanna be reminded of their past when they reinvent themselves
naw bro Jared's "promo" was 100% a burial attempt - it even broke kayfabe. He was wrong. He had a vendetta because it hurt his religious feelings - & that's coming from some who thinks Christ is King. Again, he was wrong to do that imo, Austin had every right to be irate
Nah, you're probably wrong. Owen Hart was talking about retiring when he died. He would have been 35, financially set and raising 2 lovely children. If things played out that way we'd have an Owen Hart who disappeared for awhile, showed up in TNA for about 10 weeks because he was friends with Jarrett and maybe showed up to manage that godawful next gen Heart Foundation. Then he'd start a podcast. Austin would have guested a few times, we'd get a heartful retelling of how horrified Owen Hart was when he botched that piledriver and how worried he was that he ended his friend Austin's career. Austin would 'water under the bridge' the whole thing because, really, that guy's career is more than most people ever dream of having. People would remember him as a consummate professional who wasn't afraid to play around in a silly angle. And people would remember him fondly.
Except most Black people talk like that and it's more beneficial for them to respond to it as racism than to speak all coherent and shit, do you know what I am saying?
But on the most part, Austin's decisions didn't have a significant effect on history, in terms of title changes especially... When titles are involved and it involves at least one of the wrestlers at the peak of their career, decisions to not work with certain wrestlers becomes a lot more controversial
Hart had a huge ego that was bugger than anyone ever in the business, Shawn was an addict who needed the money that the belts brought, Austin was so over that he was a multimedia superstar far more than the two combined so him dropping the titles was stupid to do especially without a solid storyline to back it up and continue the momentum
The move Owen messed up was NOT a Tombstone Piledriver but a standard piledriver. The Tombstone Piledriver is the safer version done by the Undertaker and sometimes Kane, where they drop to their knees, with the full thickness of both upper and lower legs to protect the receiving wrestler from getting dropped on his head accidentally. it's much harder to botch, which is why it's still used in the WWE and not banned as the standard Piledriver is not just in the WWE but many other promotions as well.
I've never heard of a piledriver being done stomach to stomach - Owen hurt Austin on purpose & one would have to be a fool to think otherwise. Owen did what could be called an *inverted* piledriver, which nobody does because it's stupid af. Owen knew what he was doin. Got dropped off scaffolding for it too.
@@audreyazwell WTF are you talking about? The traditional piledriver has always been done exactly the way Owen did it, other then Steve was positioned a bit too low. You're mixing up a piledriver with an inverted atomic drop. EDIT: In a standard Piledriver, there is only the thickness of the one doing the move's thighs to protect the one receiving the move from serious injury. In the Tombstone version, because the one doing the move lands on his knees, there's both the thickness of the thighs AND the shins to protect the one receiving it. Almost no chance of the recipient landing on their head instead of their shoulders landing on the thighs of the one doing the move.
It's worth noting that Owen kicked out of the pin just after the 3 count so he wouldn't look as weak for losing to Stone Cold, which didn't help the neck injury he'd just given him
Well yea, it was a surprise roll up. That’s how you sell it. You kick out right after 3. It’s not a power move, It’s not like he was hit with a finisher. The kickout had nothing to do with looking weak.
@@user-tz2zz5ij1s It's what Stone Cold said about it... I think in his opinion, given the injury Owen had just given him, he shouldn't have kicked out after the 3, because it could have injured him more... I agree that in a normal situation, every wrestler would kick out after 3 following a surprise roll-up
The messed up part about the Owen Hart thing is that either Bret or Steve asked Owen before the match if he knew how he was supposed to land with the piledriver and he said yes, then he botched it anyway and damn near crippled Austin. I always thought Jarrett was overrated and underskilled, and it sounds like he deserved the ending he got in WWE. As far as Hogan goes, his ego is what screwed everything up in WCW for so many guys, it’s no wonder Austin refused to work with him when Ted Turner’s Dubya-See-Dubya folded and Hogan showed back up in WWE. The Brock situation makes perfect sense, but I feel like Austin should have e articulated that to the back, so they could have had a tag team match or something where he would lose to him first, then lose in a singles competition at a PPV, not just walk away. Great video, btw 👏🏼
The part with Brock is that Austin already told them that he will not drop the title to Brock without a proper storyline, but they refused to listen to him...
Marc Marrow's *wife* Sable. Not that it makes a big difference for why Austin didn't want to work with him, but I think it makes it more understandable why Marc would sacrifice his credibility to get his wife over. I mean, he didn't know that once she got on top she'd divorce him and seduce a barely out of college Brock Lesner.
it should be noted that by late 1997 when marc mero adopted a boxer gimmick. he wasn't the same wrestler that he was once in wcw and when he arrived in wwe after the injury. mero's move set became more limited and the idea of him having to be in a competitive match with austin is a bad idea. it would make austin look weak.
"seduce a barely out of college Brock Lesnar" You mean a 27-year-old grown man? They started dating in 2004. You make it sound as if he was barely legal (18), yeah it is sketchy when older adults date them, but once you're in your 20s you're old enough to make adult decisions in dating. You're not being preyed upon, at least not for that reason.
Sable got some of that McMahon money/ding-dong & sent Marc packin. I'm not saying he deserved that but he should've seen it comin (especially with the kayfabe narratives they were pushing, like him abusing her). He unfortunately had to learn some harsh lessons the hard way. I feel bad for him but still he should've known better.
Could you imagine if stone cold could hold a grudge the way that bret hart does? And there is one glaring difference. Owen wasnt green like Goldberg was. Imagine in every interview if every fan had to rip the bandaid off and ask how he felt about owen.
@@DougieYT He screwed over Austin before and tried to kill his career because of jealousy of Austin, Austin had every right to be pissed as that moron for what he tried to do especially years after when he was on top and Jarrett was falling fast
@@rolltide9547 Austin was a lower mid carder who no one really cared about. Jim duggan at the time was a bigger star and the diva steve austin was too cowardly to put him over correctly.
Amazing people have a job where they put their body at risk and then when something goes wrong and they get hurt they do nothing but cry about the guy who did it. Austin Is nothing more than a wife beater.😢
@@1dilligaf here is the issue.austin told hik before hand not to fo the drop down version owen said ok but then owen did it anyway. Thats negligant on a worker and austij is right. That wasnt an accident because he was told before not to perom it that way
No…. He called him once. But even Bret said he should’ve been on top of it. Owen (according to the Hitman) was ashamed. And I actually believe it and KIND OF get it. But he should’ve been all over SCSA asking him every day if there was anything he could do or if he needed anything.
I heard he was supposed to go into a feud with Billy Gunn and that originally, BG was supposed to be pencilled in as the man who ran down Steve Austin, but Austin didn't see him and Billy as a big money draw, considering Billy was over solid at the time.
The way Austin vs Brock could have worked if he never walked out instead of doing the match on Raw build it up for after Brock won KOTR he could faced Stone Cold at Vengeance instead of RVD it gives Brock another big feather in the cap before he beats Rock for the Undisputed Championship at SummerSlam that would have been good.
I think the biggest issue with Austin according to everyone backstage like Bruce prichard, and the rest of creative was that Austin would say "that sucks or I don't like it" but never offer a better idea or any idea for that matter he would just say" that sucks" and walk away
I’m glad he didn’t take that L to Brock on a random Monday night that’s so damn stupid it would’ve utterly destroyed the whole legacy he built with one squash match. This is why Wrestling fans still believe the streak was ended by the wrong man or ended at all
Austin put a lot of people over in his career too. Good guy. Can't believe Owen never called Austin. You're a grown man, surely you can control your emotions enough for a 5 minute "Im sorry" phone call.
what pisses me off is that Owen should have been IN the damn ambulance Austin was in to make sure he was ok, he never was on the level of Bret who never injured a single person in the whole of his career!
@@alanarmstrong6460 Austin worked his ass off and only 2 people put him over (the rock and bret hart) and he became the biggest personality in the world, he didnt wrestle nobodies, it was always feuds with HHH, Taker, Bret, The Rock, Mankind etc etc he didnt need to put over people that were already over, they just built stories around him
@@ojisdaman literally EVERYONE put stone cold over, list goes on, triple h, big show, mick foley, kane, wtf you mean, stone cold hardly puts other guys over because he didn't know how to, he was selfish, they had to put themselves over, even young the rock
I definitely said that about Hogan showing up in WCW and even to this day. Obviously not Hogan but everyone works so hard to keep the show going and then the big name just comes in, gets big money matches, wins titles and becomes the 'big star'.
It wasn't a Tombstone, it was a regular piledriver. Tombstone has the wrestler dropping forward to their knees. It offers muc more control, there's more room for the head and it's generally a lot safer. Owen used a regulr piledriver, where the wrestler sits down (often after jumping). There's no control at all, so if the person taking it's head is even a little bit below the other guy's legs...well, something like this happens.
Jeff Jarrett was right about one thing. Stone Cold Steve Austin is definitely THE RINGMASTER. Not by name but in title. Steve Austin changed the business. He was the man who defined an era and influenced the future. Out sold everyone in merch, could build a good story with anyone. GOAT Edit: Just because you did it first doesn't make you the GOAT. Austin >Hogan
Unpopular opinion: Jarrett was right about Austin blaspheming God with this Austin 3:16 gimmick and using the Lord's name in vain constantly. Jarrett had his reasons for believing that and I have to agree with him (not that anyone asked but hey, whatever). Some say that Austin getting hurt at SummerSlam was a result of him mocking John 3:16 with his "Austin 3:16" speech at King of the Ring '96 against Jake Roberts. Austin said that he just ad-libbed the whole thing but when you're giving a promo after beating a born again Christian and mock the most important line in the Bible, you're mocking God, whether you want to admit it or not. I agree Owen was wrong not to check in on Austin after he got hurt but Austin didn't refuse to work with him again. They fought at Survivor Series '97 and teamed up together at No Way Out in '98. Austin could have gotten over just as much as he did before if he didn't mock the Bible and do the whole Austin 3:16 thing but doing the gimmick brought him more money, I guess, since this is all a business. I was a huge fan of Bret Hart's at the time (even when he turned heel) and didn't really like Austin until Montreal happened. Austin played the game like so many others before him had. He used politics to gain the favor of McMahon; a trait he had in common with guys like Hogan, Warrior, Bret, Shawn, etc. I will give Austin credit for being the most recognized performer during the Attitude Era and making the sport a more entertaining and enjoyable show.
I understand not wanting to do certain jobs, but the rock, undertaker, kurt angle all put over brock Lesnar. Austin is definitely one of the greatest, but hes definitely not above those guys in terms of putting people over
The problem was that each person you named had matches with Brock, that went through multiple PPVs. Vince wanted Lesnar to squash Austin on a regular TV taping of Raw with no build-up, just a 5-second match. The entrance would have been longer than the match, and Steve wouldn't put himself through that with no story involved other than showing up for work and taking an F-5 like some no-named jobber when the guy carried that company for so many years to be treated like that.
The thing with Owen is that he did the exact same thing with the pile driver to Dan Severn. Not sure which came first but he obviously shouldn't have been doing that move.
he made a point of the former because of Triple H’s politicking via Stephanie which pissed everyone off and he was justified in the former because Brock wasn’t ready and should have been on a major event- something that made sense
I've seen that pile driver done many times. It's possible Austin already had a weak neck, but if Owen was unsafe or did that or purpose he certainly paid for it with his life. Curt Hennig even put over Austin when he left WCW. I wonder if a higher up had Owen killed.
The difference is that in most cases he refused to work he had some sort of reason not only because he wanted to be the center of the universe like Hogan Hogan abused the politics big time to be on top even when he was way past his prime
when you are the number 1 or 2 babyface in history of course he was. One does not get to that level without becoming a Master Politician. I agree with your compliment of Stone Cold Steve Austin !
Actually, most of those things w/ Jeff Jarrett aren't true, according to Stone Cold. Austin had JJ on his Broken Skull Sessions and they talked about many of those claims. Austin says he had no problem w/ the shoot promo and never held a grudge against Jeff's dad for the payment issues, either. But, as we know, wrestlers are good at lying and making up stories so it's best to take EVERYTHING w/ a grain of salt about these guys.
Oh shoot. I didnt realize it was owens who did the pile driver. I had heard or read that it was a pile driver that did a major injury that did permanent damage to Austin. I hear tombstone and thing undertaker.
Ahmed Johnson was green and arrogant, he didn't care about injuring people. As for Brock, i think Austins attitude was 'I'm last in the line, not the first' which you can't blame. He would have put Brock over on a PPV.
You can't blame him for sticking to his guns. He made the right career decisions like any of the champion guys no one wants to loss clean. Took HBK a long time to learn that its not about the win or loss but how well you sold the match. I agree with him that he should have had a Lesnar PPV to lose a match to and not on a random night. I always liked Austin better than Goldberg and wouldn't want to live with all those injuries.
hot take: Owen was a pos & did that to Austin on purpose because he wanted out of his contract. That move isn't even a thing - what, an *inverted piledriver* lol absurd. There's a reason it's dropped to the knees aka a tombstone & that's why Austin was so confused when Owen said what he was going to do. Owen got what he deserved. There, I said it.
1:10 I can attest though, that was divine karma for mocking John 3:16. I like Stone Cold, don't get me wrong. But he kind of deserved that for mocking God. He recovered and was still able bodied and able to go on for several more years, the Lord didn't make it permanent at least.
Hey, once in awhile you have to throw the fans a bone. Austin wanted to only wrestle on Pay-Per Views. Only so he could have a big Payday. RAW was simply for coming out, running his mouth, and stunning whoever was in the ring. That worked great for awhile, but eventually most of us caught on to what he was doing.
@@amtownsyou Being greedy had nothing to do with Owen Hart significantly shortening his career. On Pay Per Views he gave fantastic performances. Not 2 minute squash jobs.
@@amtownsyou No, it's an example of greed! That's what it is. If Austin had wrestled occasionally that would have been fine.... if it had been a combination of Pay Per Views _and_ free on RAW. He didn't do that. He didn't care about the fans. Fooled us for a long time though.
@NGMonocrom Call it Greed or whatever, nobody cared - when he wasn't wrestling he wss cutting groundbreaking promos and giving out unprovoked stunners (which made him the leader of the attitude era in 97 and 98) and when he did wrestle he gave us memorable matches- it worked!
While fans are still mad at Owen Hart. Though he died 25 years ago. We all should be lucky and thankful that Austin was still able to wrestle and win more titles after the accident. Dude wrestle 6 more years after that. And while Austin lived to see his 2 daughters grow up. Owen died never seeing his son and daughter grow up. Yes, Owen was wrong for never apologizing. But Austin himself said he forgave Owen and moved on from it. And fans need to move on as well.
fans are mad at Owen because recently they jumped on the Austin "i hate Owen" bandwagon, before this they just loved him for being a professional, no bad blood, no scandals type of guy. fan = fanatic
I had no idea Jarrett said that, and as a reborn Christian I can only say - God bless you Jeff Jarrett! You did the right thing. “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” - Jesus Christ in Matthew 10:22
It looked like stone cold expected a tombstone Owen was going for a regular pile driver and ended up being a dumb combo of both no wonder Austin got injured he should have just done a tombstone which is safer than the OG version.
It wasn't losing to Lesnar. It was Stone Cold trying to qualify for the King of the Ring. Stone Cold was the biggest draw in the history of wrestling. The King of the Ring was for up and comers. It was ridiculous to even have Stone Cold in KOTR. And yes would have wasted a potential huge PPV payday. If they had asked him to face Lesnar for the title after Lesnar beat Rock that probably would have gone over a lot better
Vince being Vince at that time, and he was insane wanting to recover WCW and Failed to keep ECW alive. Then NTX happened and the entire Nexus Rebellion out Ultimate Muscle/Kinnikuman Nisei's last Arc where most of the new generation became as holes
All of Austin's Politicking were very justified...unlike ALL of 1994-1998 HBK which were based on his petty little ego, (Thank God he Grew Up!) and Hogan's who was all about his own interests rather than the company's. 1. Jarrett was still perceived as Mid-Card-JOKE in the eyes of the fans at that time regardless of this sudden New "Attitude" he gained upon his return before reverting back to his Country Music Character. 2. Marvelous Marc Mero is a FAR CRY from the Wildman, and Stone Cold has LONG eclipsed that Marc Mero. 3. Owen Hart: Not to speak ill of the dead, but that's still messed up the way he just carried on afterwords. If you can't trust your Dance Partner to take care of you, to hell with them. Sorry Owen. 4. Ahmed Johnson. One Big Injury Prone Disappointment (among other things) Go F-Off! 5. Hulk Hogan: I wouldn't put it past Hogan to pull the same shenanigans he pulled on Bret Hart and HBK with Austin. 6. Brock Lesnar: I completely side with Austin here. That match-up should be a BIG TIME PPV. Not some first round King of the Ring match.
@@dhenderson1810 the guys a austin idiot fanguy, all these guys do in the comments is make up excuses for him, he beat his wife, oh everyone makes mistakes all of a sudden, but other guys do it, they bring it up 24/7
As much as i love austin & to me he is the goat, he was a hypocrite. Back in those ecw promos he complained of being held down but when he got on top He did the same thing to other guys
@@AdamRose-b1e he had his reasons Marc mero Got power bombed by a woman can’t have a 5 to ten minute match after that, Jeff Jarrett is mid card at best and brock he would of done it on Ppv
I’m a huge Steve Austin fan and we can see he can be a politicker but for you to say that when we know about pre back injury Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan. Nah…
@@dwaynejpeterkin yes, its the wrestling business, things happen, he was aught off guard, and went easy on her, so that would be the excuse, where mero goes full hard mode on austin
I see hate Bad News Brown gets for talking bout having to discipline Owen for his BS it’s weird love for Owen as if he was infallible. He seems like a great father and good guy but def wild for almost paralyzing a guy n not checking in on him. He was an asshole with Bad News and caught some discipline for it.
Austin was great and none of these really bother me including the Brock one because he's right about there should be a story but at the end of the day Austin did plead no contest to assaulting Debra. In reality, he deserves just as much scorn as Hogan gets for the N word but it seems words are louder than actions to many people.
Don't forget the 317 lb (@10% bodyfat) Batista ... he gave Austin & creative a nightmare in terms of promo or setting up any kind of 1v1 match ... he couldnt just surprise stun him or beat him in a brawl and look believable doing so, because lets face it that version of Batista would kill him. I noticed a pattern with Austin when he became a headliner. Anyone who is bigger/stronger than him physically, and is also over with the crowd, Austin often avoided. I.e Kevin Nash, Hogan, Brock, Goldberg and as mentioned Batista ...
Austin’s matches were mostly terrible. Masters like Bret dragged him to some great matches though. Jarrett’s promo was great, nailed it. Could’ve been a money feud.
This is pure nonsense Austin had fantastic matches with guys like Bret, Foley, Rock, HHH, Benoit, Angle, and Jericho and that's just his fed run Because he also had great matches with guys like Steamboat, Windahm, and Zybsco in WCW @joen8529
Are we going to ignore the fact that Austin has violently beaten up multiple ex wives. It's weird, because Austin is beloved, we brush over such. However when a wrestler is unpopular we justify their whole existence by their misdemeanors. The fans are ultimately the biggest hypocrites of all
Uh, yes we are, because if you try to mesh kayfabe with reality you will find that most wrestlers before John Cena's era, are steroid using cocaine sniffing wife beating bar fighting SOBs for real, most are terrible persons didn't have good education and that's a big part why they chose to do this job, this fucking job for a long time does not pay that much, you get in a ton of pain might not even be able for afford hospital, you risk your life daily and more than likely you never got over not even famous. Not everyone, actually I would say most wrestlers are not like Edge and Christian, they don't suffer for your entertainment because they are saints do it for the love, mostly because they are close to criminals that society don't have good jobs for them, they do brought good future tho, the wrestling part might not be as thrilling as of late 90s, but WWE today is a legit entertainment production company, wrestlers are workers, they got paid at least above average, there are OK medicare programs, and locker rooms are mostly cool. So that' why we should forget, you can't change the past, make sure current positivity stays that's more important.
@therocklau oh man, you are so so so correct sir. You raised those points which my grandmother used to tell me when I was a kid but with changing time, glamour etc we just idioloze these wrestlers. The truth is what you have mentioned.
Stone cold was a selfish person who didnt want to put anyone over. Even refused to show up at wrestlemania 40. Hes lucky vince gave him privalige of the golden ticket feuding with him
@@dhenderson1810 nah he was reasonable plus you needed a face on 01 to compete against Austin as a heel as for putting over Vince he doesn’t need to go over he owns the company
@@dhenderson1810 some moments in 98 like the time he got him arrested or when he fired him and had the McMahon 316 or the time undertaker had his hands on him with McMahon around
Jarrett is nepotism at its worst, hes never been over, he acts like a baby backstage, continually forcing himself into the top of the roster, and im sorry but hes not on Austin or really anyones level, no offense to his fans but he was terrible all around and never got over or even a really involved heel reactions from the crowd.
Man, if he didn't have those knee issues and Owen didn't damage his neck, we couldve gotten him on the Ruthless Aggression era. He could've lasted as long as HBK and retired at Wrestlemania 27.
he revealed years ago that his back was giving out due to the stunners…he didn’t have as long as fans believe, he might have had five or six more years at most before his back was too damaged to compete
@bostonrailfan2427 The greats and their finishers are always a detriment. Hogan's leg drop fucked him up. Randy Orton's RKO messed up his back and the same is for Austin?
@@cliffbot638 Orton’s real problem is his shoulders, which aren’t impacted by the move…Hogan lies frequently, his move wouldn’t hurt as much as he lets on and he rarely got seriously physical so he needs something to blame his own lack of ability in-ring on anything but himself
I think giving a leg drop got the same impact on a back than a stunner, bcz its almost the same movement
@@bostonrailfan2427research hulk hogan back operations please
He didn't have a problem losing to lesnar. It just made no sense to drop the title to lesnar on raw instead of building it and dropping it on a ppv
Austin wasn't facing Lesnar for a title. Not wanting to lose with no build up when Lesnar was clearly going to be a star is true though
How Vince couldn't see a way to make money from Austin-Lesnar at a PPV is the most confusing part of it.
@@jasondyrkacz8270 I think he was Trying to do Austin like Hogan where Lesnar rips through both of the former top guys them beats the top guy in the rock
@@jamalwalker04And that is a FUCKING STUPID idea.
I thought it was for a king of the ring tourney match@@barringtonfisher87
That Piledriver took at least 10-15 years off of his career and it’s sad to see. I absolutely would’ve loved to see Stone Cold have singles FULL LENGTH feuds with Ruthless Aggression Era guys like Umaga, JBL, Randy Orton, Batista, etc. I personally believe if Steve didn’t get dropped on his head/neck, he would’ve been at least a 10-12x WWE & World Heavyweight Champion in total by the time he did decide to retire.
Stone cold was washed by 2003. He's a one dimensional wrestler with no other personality.. people were already getting bored by 2003 of his same character. He flopped as a heel and went back to face.. Austin would've been boring as hell if he continued wrestling until early 2010s. The rock is better
@TOMMY.ROBINSON The heel turn was a huge mistake but he could've found a way to freshen up his character. Like Hogan did with the NWO. Something to fit in with the Ruthless Aggression era.
even with that extra time his back would have still given out alongside his knees: his stunner was destroying both his back and knees with the former giving out visibly and the latter not being seen but hastened by his broken back in 2002
had he had a better, less intense move he would have had a good decade at the top before he transitioned into a part-timer
@@GazerBeam-1he was still beloved by crowds even then, his body gave out before the crowds stopped loving him 🙄
@@GazerBeam-1 Washed by 2003🤣? That man was getting cheered in every building he appeared in even after his In-Ring career ended.
That jeff jarret story about the paycheck only for austin to later become one of if not (arguably) most iconic wrestler(s) of all time. While jarret was nothing more than mid compared to austin is straight karma.
But then jarret started his own promotion where all the wrestlers came so prob made more money and bigger impact in wrestling
@@Natz519 where all the wrestlers came. LOL TNA did not get everyone. Just some WWE guys who were either past their prime or getting close or drugged out of their mind.
JJ=Jobber Jarrett 👎
He went to WCW & became world champion.
Then founded TNA lol.
& it was not "Karma"
It was "Austin"
He had a hissy fit because Jerret made a joke about his paycheck years before.
I'm sorry but that's a woman right there.
@@mattsspelman1457 Jeff Jarret was a mid card talent at best.
And the bosses kid making a joke about pay checks is bad form all around.
Imagine defending a nepo baby.
Part of the reason for the heat with Hogan is partly because of his friends who came in. Most notably, Hacksaw Jim Duggan who was brought in and booked to beat Steve Austin for the US Title in 35 seconds. And then had to put up with Duggan constantly burying him, by telling everyone that Austin was sandbagging him during the rematches.
Meanwhile every idea that Austin tried to pitch just got shot down. Everything from working a programme with Randy Savage or Ricky Steamboat, to reuniting the Hollywood Blondes.
Ahmed Johnson meanwhile got such a bad reputation, that pretty much nobody wanted to work with him. The nail in the coffin for his potential main event push, was probably when he injured Ron Simmons by kicking him so hard that he lacerated Ron's liver. And of course Ron Simmons came back and returned the favour by beating the crap out of Ahmed, and kicking him so hard that he broke three of his ribs. Which the entire locker room watched through the curtain, and supported Ron over.
But there was no way that Austin in his run to the main event was going to work with Ahmed Johnson because of how sloppy he was, especially after the neck injury. And Johnson was gone from the WWF by February 1998.
From USWA to WWE Austin was aways a rising star, just needed the old generation out of his way
There were many thought he should have been a superstar in WCW. Only Bischoff said he was a boring guy in black tights.
I heard the story about Austin's reaction after Jarrett's promo and thought what a big baby he was. That was a perfectly viable heel promo. However, that extra color about Austin's treatment under Jarrett's dad makes it make a lot more sense.
I think HHH's promo to kofi was 10x worse/awkward when he was like "aint you Jamaican? Where's the accent?" Lmao some wrestlers just don't wanna be reminded of their past when they reinvent themselves
naw bro Jared's "promo" was 100% a burial attempt - it even broke kayfabe. He was wrong. He had a vendetta because it hurt his religious feelings - & that's coming from some who thinks Christ is King. Again, he was wrong to do that imo, Austin had every right to be irate
0:20 Unpopular opinion if Owen didn't die so tragically he wouldn't have been remembered so fondly.
literally everyone liked Owen you dunce, making a mistake doesn't mean you're a bad person
He would have always lived in Bret’s shadow.
@@irishww5110 really cuz I'm pretty sure he made the mistake twice - "you dunce" - what a fanboy take. OP nailed it.
Nah, you're probably wrong. Owen Hart was talking about retiring when he died. He would have been 35, financially set and raising 2 lovely children.
If things played out that way we'd have an Owen Hart who disappeared for awhile, showed up in TNA for about 10 weeks because he was friends with Jarrett and maybe showed up to manage that godawful next gen Heart Foundation.
Then he'd start a podcast. Austin would have guested a few times, we'd get a heartful retelling of how horrified Owen Hart was when he botched that piledriver and how worried he was that he ended his friend Austin's career. Austin would 'water under the bridge' the whole thing because, really, that guy's career is more than most people ever dream of having.
People would remember him as a consummate professional who wasn't afraid to play around in a silly angle. And people would remember him fondly.
That is true.
Ahmed Johnson sounded like he had marbles in his mouth and he kept hurting people. That’s why he never made it to the top, not racism.
Fun with Ahmed. Still funny to this day.
Except most Black people talk like that and it's more beneficial for them to respond to it as racism than to speak all coherent and shit, do you know what I am saying?
Ahmed was BUILT to be a top guy but couldnt wrestle or shoot his promos worthy of teenage angst!
@@ojisdaman WONTON AND BEEF STEW!
Bret gets shit for taking his character too seriously, HBK gets shit for not dropping titles, Austin does both but when he does it it's pretty cool
But on the most part, Austin's decisions didn't have a significant effect on history, in terms of title changes especially... When titles are involved and it involves at least one of the wrestlers at the peak of their career, decisions to not work with certain wrestlers becomes a lot more controversial
#hellyeah
@@Appetite4Rosesummerslam 1999 when he didn’t want to drop it to triple h and made him win the title the next night
No
Its not cool
Its as scummy as the other ones
Hart had a huge ego that was bugger than anyone ever in the business, Shawn was an addict who needed the money that the belts brought, Austin was so over that he was a multimedia superstar far more than the two combined so him dropping the titles was stupid to do especially without a solid storyline to back it up and continue the momentum
The move Owen messed up was NOT a Tombstone Piledriver but a standard piledriver. The Tombstone Piledriver is the safer version done by the Undertaker and sometimes Kane, where they drop to their knees, with the full thickness of both upper and lower legs to protect the receiving wrestler from getting dropped on his head accidentally. it's much harder to botch, which is why it's still used in the WWE and not banned as the standard Piledriver is not just in the WWE but many other promotions as well.
I've never heard of a piledriver being done stomach to stomach - Owen hurt Austin on purpose & one would have to be a fool to think otherwise. Owen did what could be called an *inverted* piledriver, which nobody does because it's stupid af. Owen knew what he was doin. Got dropped off scaffolding for it too.
@@audreyazwell WTF are you talking about? The traditional piledriver has always been done exactly the way Owen did it, other then Steve was positioned a bit too low. You're mixing up a piledriver with an inverted atomic drop.
EDIT: In a standard Piledriver, there is only the thickness of the one doing the move's thighs to protect the one receiving the move from serious injury. In the Tombstone version, because the one doing the move lands on his knees, there's both the thickness of the thighs AND the shins to protect the one receiving it. Almost no chance of the recipient landing on their head instead of their shoulders landing on the thighs of the one doing the move.
The greatest of all time.
It's worth noting that Owen kicked out of the pin just after the 3 count so he wouldn't look as weak for losing to Stone Cold, which didn't help the neck injury he'd just given him
Well yea, it was a surprise roll up. That’s how you sell it. You kick out right after 3. It’s not a power move, It’s not like he was hit with a finisher. The kickout had nothing to do with looking weak.
@@user-tz2zz5ij1s It's what Stone Cold said about it... I think in his opinion, given the injury Owen had just given him, he shouldn't have kicked out after the 3, because it could have injured him more... I agree that in a normal situation, every wrestler would kick out after 3 following a surprise roll-up
I think Owen is lucky Austin didn't yeet him off the lights himself let alone take him out with his bare hands then & there
@@audreyazwell can you not ake death jokes please? it was tragic, just stop
Stone Cold! Stone Cold! Stone Cold!
Growing up is realizing Owen Hart was extremely immature but is never called out by fans as much due to his tragic passing.
Growing up is realising that most wrestlers active, retired or dead are very flawed people especially the ones back then.
I feel he would of been bashed pretty heavily if he was alive as Dan Severn had a problem with him due to the piledriver
He was a scum
Who injuried partners left and right
He was Canadian. That's just the way they are.
Yep, everyone will love you.. if you die in a shitty way.
The messed up part about the Owen Hart thing is that either Bret or Steve asked Owen before the match if he knew how he was supposed to land with the piledriver and he said yes, then he botched it anyway and damn near crippled Austin.
I always thought Jarrett was overrated and underskilled, and it sounds like he deserved the ending he got in WWE.
As far as Hogan goes, his ego is what screwed everything up in WCW for so many guys, it’s no wonder Austin refused to work with him when Ted Turner’s Dubya-See-Dubya folded and Hogan showed back up in WWE.
The Brock situation makes perfect sense, but I feel like Austin should have e articulated that to the back, so they could have had a tag team match or something where he would lose to him first, then lose in a singles competition at a PPV, not just walk away.
Great video, btw 👏🏼
The part with Brock is that Austin already told them that he will not drop the title to Brock without a proper storyline, but they refused to listen to him...
I been a fan of austin since he became stone cold..im gonna love this video..💙💙
If this is your real pic, you are very beautiful
Marc Marrow's *wife* Sable. Not that it makes a big difference for why Austin didn't want to work with him, but I think it makes it more understandable why Marc would sacrifice his credibility to get his wife over. I mean, he didn't know that once she got on top she'd divorce him and seduce a barely out of college Brock Lesner.
it should be noted that by late 1997 when marc mero adopted a boxer gimmick. he wasn't the same wrestler that he was once in wcw and when he arrived in wwe after the injury. mero's move set became more limited and the idea of him having to be in a competitive match with austin is a bad idea. it would make austin look weak.
"seduce a barely out of college Brock Lesnar" You mean a 27-year-old grown man? They started dating in 2004.
You make it sound as if he was barely legal (18), yeah it is sketchy when older adults date them, but once you're in your 20s you're old enough to make adult decisions in dating. You're not being preyed upon, at least not for that reason.
Sable got some of that McMahon money/ding-dong & sent Marc packin. I'm not saying he deserved that but he should've seen it comin (especially with the kayfabe narratives they were pushing, like him abusing her). He unfortunately had to learn some harsh lessons the hard way. I feel bad for him but still he should've known better.
@@thevoid99 that boxer gimmick did more harm to his career than good.
His first Ringmaster promo was very good. A stupid gimmick, but he still played it well.
Could you imagine if stone cold could hold a grudge the way that bret hart does? And there is one glaring difference. Owen wasnt green like Goldberg was. Imagine in every interview if every fan had to rip the bandaid off and ask how he felt about owen.
Austin getting Pissed at Glorified Politicians in Hogan and Double J is something awesome to hear
I never knew Austin disliked Double J, but after hearing that story, it’s not surprising now.
@@DougieYTJJ is hated by dozens for good reason so him hating the guy makes perfect sense
Austin is just as bad as both of them
@@bostonrailfan2427 Yeah I know Jarret isn’t the cup of tea by his peers in the biz, I just didn’t know Austin loathed him either.
@@DougieYT He screwed over Austin before and tried to kill his career because of jealousy of Austin, Austin had every right to be pissed as that moron for what he tried to do especially years after when he was on top and Jarrett was falling fast
Jim Duggan should be on this list. I should not have to explain why
Im with Duggan
Another Bischoff screw making Austin do a 20 second job to Duggan.
@@rolltide9547 it was Austins idea. The diva didnt want to do a proper job for Jim, even tho at the time Jim was the bigger star and more over.
@@Geraldo-ro9rc Duggan was a mid carder Austin was the up and coming star. Duggan was a Hogan buddy.
@@rolltide9547 Austin was a lower mid carder who no one really cared about. Jim duggan at the time was a bigger star and the diva steve austin was too cowardly to put him over correctly.
Owen's was a asshole for that. Sorry but austin is right
100%
Bret always complains about getting hurt by Goldberg, yet his brother Owen broke Austin's neck.
Austin did the exact same thing to someone else.
Amazing people have a job where they put their body at risk and then when something goes wrong and they get hurt they do nothing but cry about the guy who did it. Austin Is nothing more than a wife beater.😢
@@1dilligaf here is the issue.austin told hik before hand not to fo the drop down version owen said ok but then owen did it anyway. Thats negligant on a worker and austij is right. That wasnt an accident because he was told before not to perom it that way
No…. He called him once. But even Bret said he should’ve been on top of it. Owen (according to the Hitman) was ashamed. And I actually believe it and KIND OF get it. But he should’ve been all over SCSA asking him every day if there was anything he could do or if he needed anything.
I heard he was supposed to go into a feud with Billy Gunn and that originally, BG was supposed to be pencilled in as the man who ran down Steve Austin, but Austin didn't see him and Billy as a big money draw, considering Billy was over solid at the time.
Would've liked have seen that.
Yes we know austin is the best but give other people there spot.
The way Austin vs Brock could have worked if he never walked out instead of doing the match on Raw build it up for after Brock won KOTR he could faced Stone Cold at Vengeance instead of RVD it gives Brock another big feather in the cap before he beats Rock for the Undisputed Championship at SummerSlam that would have been good.
I think the biggest issue with Austin according to everyone backstage like Bruce prichard, and the rest of creative was that Austin would say "that sucks or I don't like it" but never offer a better idea or any idea for that matter he would just say" that sucks" and walk away
I’m glad he didn’t take that L to Brock on a random Monday night that’s so damn stupid it would’ve utterly destroyed the whole legacy he built with one squash match. This is why Wrestling fans still believe the streak was ended by the wrong man or ended at all
Austin put a lot of people over in his career too. Good guy.
Can't believe Owen never called Austin. You're a grown man, surely you can control your emotions enough for a 5 minute "Im sorry" phone call.
Who did he put over that one wasn't already a star during his peak run
what pisses me off is that Owen should have been IN the damn ambulance Austin was in to make sure he was ok, he never was on the level of Bret who never injured a single person in the whole of his career!
@@alanarmstrong6460 Austin worked his ass off and only 2 people put him over (the rock and bret hart) and he became the biggest personality in the world, he didnt wrestle nobodies, it was always feuds with HHH, Taker, Bret, The Rock, Mankind etc etc he didnt need to put over people that were already over, they just built stories around him
@@ojisdaman Shawn put him over at mania, undertaker put him over at summerslam what more do you want
@@ojisdaman literally EVERYONE put stone cold over, list goes on, triple h, big show, mick foley, kane, wtf you mean, stone cold hardly puts other guys over because he didn't know how to, he was selfish, they had to put themselves over, even young the rock
I definitely said that about Hogan showing up in WCW and even to this day. Obviously not Hogan but everyone works so hard to keep the show going and then the big name just comes in, gets big money matches, wins titles and becomes the 'big star'.
And now that we know that 3:16 is A Dingleshat, we can go around that "Waste of Space", instead of wasting our time on that "Foul Movement"!
It wasn't a Tombstone, it was a regular piledriver. Tombstone has the wrestler dropping forward to their knees. It offers muc more control, there's more room for the head and it's generally a lot safer. Owen used a regulr piledriver, where the wrestler sits down (often after jumping). There's no control at all, so if the person taking it's head is even a little bit below the other guy's legs...well, something like this happens.
It's so weird seeing Steve Austin with hair.
Im glad Mark Henry defended Austin
Hes a good wresler
Youre a good commenter
The Hollywood Blondes were a great team and no doubt headed for stardom.
Stevie Ray''s discussion of Ahmed is a must hear.
Stevie Ray is a clown.
Jeff Jarrett was right about one thing. Stone Cold Steve Austin is definitely THE RINGMASTER. Not by name but in title. Steve Austin changed the business. He was the man who defined an era and influenced the future. Out sold everyone in merch, could build a good story with anyone. GOAT
Edit: Just because you did it first doesn't make you the GOAT. Austin >Hogan
Pretty much what ever Austin feels I’ll back because I’ve felt the guys pains and successes since 98.
Unpopular opinion: Jarrett was right about Austin blaspheming God with this Austin 3:16 gimmick and using the Lord's name in vain constantly. Jarrett had his reasons for believing that and I have to agree with him (not that anyone asked but hey, whatever). Some say that Austin getting hurt at SummerSlam was a result of him mocking John 3:16 with his "Austin 3:16" speech at King of the Ring '96 against Jake Roberts. Austin said that he just ad-libbed the whole thing but when you're giving a promo after beating a born again Christian and mock the most important line in the Bible, you're mocking God, whether you want to admit it or not. I agree Owen was wrong not to check in on Austin after he got hurt but Austin didn't refuse to work with him again. They fought at Survivor Series '97 and teamed up together at No Way Out in '98. Austin could have gotten over just as much as he did before if he didn't mock the Bible and do the whole Austin 3:16 thing but doing the gimmick brought him more money, I guess, since this is all a business. I was a huge fan of Bret Hart's at the time (even when he turned heel) and didn't really like Austin until Montreal happened. Austin played the game like so many others before him had. He used politics to gain the favor of McMahon; a trait he had in common with guys like Hogan, Warrior, Bret, Shawn, etc. I will give Austin credit for being the most recognized performer during the Attitude Era and making the sport a more entertaining and enjoyable show.
Owen didn't perform a Tombstone pile driver, it was a sit down piledriver...which is where the problem was in the first place.
Good video
Austin stood on business
No he was being unproffesional in some of the cases.
@@Geraldo-ro9rc which almost every Wrestler has done at some point
@@amtownsyou Not true.
@Geraldo-ro9rc oh it's true, it's damn true.
@@Geraldo-ro9rc yes it is.
Austin never had a problem fighting his women, he never put them over though? 👊💥
😂
Don't forget the Summerslam match change between Mick and HHH 😉
I understand not wanting to do certain jobs, but the rock, undertaker, kurt angle all put over brock Lesnar. Austin is definitely one of the greatest, but hes definitely not above those guys in terms of putting people over
He would of done it if there was a story involved
The problem was that each person you named had matches with Brock, that went through multiple PPVs. Vince wanted Lesnar to squash Austin on a regular TV taping of Raw with no build-up, just a 5-second match. The entrance would have been longer than the match, and Steve wouldn't put himself through that with no story involved other than showing up for work and taking an F-5 like some no-named jobber when the guy carried that company for so many years to be treated like that.
@@EE-md2lrit wouldn't had been a squash Austin just didn't wanna do it on free tv as he called it😒 but since when cable was free!?
Did any of those guys you named lose to Brock on a Monday night Raw with no build?😂
@@jettskie1986 I get what he wanted & he was right.. just didn't like the free tv part
All of this besides the Mero thing sounds pretty valid to me.
Actually, Mero and Sable were married at that time!
The thing with Owen is that he did the exact same thing with the pile driver to Dan Severn. Not sure which came first but he obviously shouldn't have been doing that move.
The one with Severn was fake
That schoolboy on Owen was tough to watch
Austin didnt do the job twice
1. Dropping the belt for Triple H on SummerSlam '99
2. Not wresrling Brock Lesnar on King of the Ring.
he made a point of the former because of Triple H’s politicking via Stephanie which pissed everyone off and he was justified in the former because Brock wasn’t ready and should have been on a major event- something that made sense
@@bostonrailfan2427Lol, we get it kid, you love Stone Cold. You've got some brown shit on your nose too
I've seen that pile driver done many times. It's possible Austin already had a weak neck, but if Owen was unsafe or did that or purpose he certainly paid for it with his life.
Curt Hennig even put over Austin when he left WCW.
I wonder if a higher up had Owen killed.
Rock/Hogan is my favorite Mania match ever, and I don't think Austin/Hogan would have had the same chemistry.
Don’t forget Debrah was with JJ first 😂
10 wrestlers who hated working with stone cold
rookies,mid carders and an ego maniac racist liar. yeah fair play to austin.
Stone Cold Steve Austin was a Master Politician and rarely ever gets called out for it by Wrestling fans. 👀
The difference is that in most cases he refused to work he had some sort of reason not only because he wanted to be the center of the universe like Hogan Hogan abused the politics big time to be on top even when he was way past his prime
Those eye emojis are cringe
everyone is after that top spot! no matter who it is.
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852who cares what you think? He's right.
when you are the number 1 or 2 babyface in history of course he was.
One does not get to that level without becoming a Master Politician.
I agree with your compliment of Stone Cold Steve Austin !
Actually, most of those things w/ Jeff Jarrett aren't true, according to Stone Cold. Austin had JJ on his Broken Skull Sessions and they talked about many of those claims. Austin says he had no problem w/ the shoot promo and never held a grudge against Jeff's dad for the payment issues, either. But, as we know, wrestlers are good at lying and making up stories so it's best to take EVERYTHING w/ a grain of salt about these guys.
Not wanting to do business with Hulk Hogan is the most obvious, smart and understandable thing I've heard.
the rock did it, and what happened?
Oh shoot. I didnt realize it was owens who did the pile driver. I had heard or read that it was a pile driver that did a major injury that did permanent damage to Austin. I hear tombstone and thing undertaker.
Ahmed Johnson was green and arrogant, he didn't care about injuring people. As for Brock, i think Austins attitude was 'I'm last in the line, not the first' which you can't blame. He would have put Brock over on a PPV.
Ahmed Johnson had charisma.... If you say so I guess, to each his own.
You can't blame him for sticking to his guns. He made the right career decisions like any of the champion guys no one wants to loss clean. Took HBK a long time to learn that its not about the win or loss but how well you sold the match. I agree with him that he should have had a Lesnar PPV to lose a match to and not on a random night. I always liked Austin better than Goldberg and wouldn't want to live with all those injuries.
As Austin my fav, F that Austin don’t lose to no damn rookie
It was not a tombstone piledriver. Austin had a bad neck before Owen Hart botched the piledriver according to Bruce Prichard.
hot take: Owen was a pos & did that to Austin on purpose because he wanted out of his contract. That move isn't even a thing - what, an *inverted piledriver* lol absurd. There's a reason it's dropped to the knees aka a tombstone & that's why Austin was so confused when Owen said what he was going to do. Owen got what he deserved. There, I said it.
It’s long past time for Jarrett to retire along with Dustin Rhodes and Billy Gunn
1:10 I can attest though, that was divine karma for mocking John 3:16. I like Stone Cold, don't get me wrong. But he kind of deserved that for mocking God.
He recovered and was still able bodied and able to go on for several more years, the Lord didn't make it permanent at least.
Hey, once in awhile you have to throw the fans a bone. Austin wanted to only wrestle on Pay-Per Views. Only so he could have a big Payday. RAW was simply for coming out, running his mouth, and stunning whoever was in the ring. That worked great for awhile, but eventually most of us caught on to what he was doing.
Yes but that was also due to his long term injury, his charisma saved him
@@amtownsyou
Being greedy had nothing to do with Owen Hart significantly shortening his career. On Pay Per Views he gave fantastic performances. Not 2 minute squash jobs.
@@NGMonocromperfect example of quality over quantity
@@amtownsyou
No, it's an example of greed! That's what it is. If Austin had wrestled occasionally that would have been fine.... if it had been a combination of Pay Per Views _and_ free on RAW. He didn't do that. He didn't care about the fans. Fooled us for a long time though.
@NGMonocrom Call it Greed or whatever, nobody cared - when he wasn't wrestling he wss cutting groundbreaking promos and giving out unprovoked stunners (which made him the leader of the attitude era in 97 and 98) and when he did wrestle he gave us memorable matches- it worked!
Anybody know the real name from that style piledrive i first seen it in the early 90s in japan it a sit down piledriver I THINK , ARENT THEY ALL???
While fans are still mad at Owen Hart. Though he died 25 years ago. We all should be lucky and thankful that Austin was still able to wrestle and win more titles after the accident. Dude wrestle 6 more years after that. And while Austin lived to see his 2 daughters grow up. Owen died never seeing his son and daughter grow up. Yes, Owen was wrong for never apologizing. But Austin himself said he forgave Owen and moved on from it. And fans need to move on as well.
I wonder if Austin ONLY forgave Owen because he died.
fans are mad at Owen because recently they jumped on the Austin "i hate Owen" bandwagon, before this they just loved him for being a professional, no bad blood, no scandals type of guy.
fan = fanatic
I had no idea Jarrett said that, and as a reborn Christian I can only say - God bless you Jeff Jarrett! You did the right thing. “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.”
- Jesus Christ in Matthew 10:22
Shut up
Where was the "tombstone" piledriver? I never saw that, that must be a move that wasnt televised during the '97 Summerslam
It looked like stone cold expected a tombstone Owen was going for a regular pile driver and ended up being a dumb combo of both no wonder Austin got injured he should have just done a tombstone which is safer than the OG version.
It was a sit-out Tombstone piledriver.
It was either him, or Vince. That did that racial slur.
Yeah, he’s pretty tough, when it comes to beating on women
Mark Henry sounds like a goofy.
It wasn't losing to Lesnar. It was Stone Cold trying to qualify for the King of the Ring. Stone Cold was the biggest draw in the history of wrestling. The King of the Ring was for up and comers. It was ridiculous to even have Stone Cold in KOTR. And yes would have wasted a potential huge PPV payday. If they had asked him to face Lesnar for the title after Lesnar beat Rock that probably would have gone over a lot better
Vince being Vince at that time, and he was insane wanting to recover WCW and Failed to keep ECW alive.
Then NTX happened and the entire Nexus Rebellion out Ultimate Muscle/Kinnikuman Nisei's last Arc where most of the new generation became as holes
Make a video about all the people HHH beat and buried.
All of Austin's Politicking were very justified...unlike ALL of 1994-1998 HBK which were based on his petty little ego, (Thank God he Grew Up!) and Hogan's who was all about his own interests rather than the company's.
1. Jarrett was still perceived as Mid-Card-JOKE in the eyes of the fans at that time regardless of this sudden New "Attitude" he gained upon his return before reverting back to his Country Music Character.
2. Marvelous Marc Mero is a FAR CRY from the Wildman, and Stone Cold has LONG eclipsed that Marc Mero.
3. Owen Hart: Not to speak ill of the dead, but that's still messed up the way he just carried on afterwords. If you can't trust your Dance Partner to take care of you, to hell with them. Sorry Owen.
4. Ahmed Johnson. One Big Injury Prone Disappointment (among other things) Go F-Off!
5. Hulk Hogan: I wouldn't put it past Hogan to pull the same shenanigans he pulled on Bret Hart and HBK with Austin.
6. Brock Lesnar: I completely side with Austin here. That match-up should be a BIG TIME PPV. Not some first round King of the Ring match.
No that is just what wrestling media has told you.
I think you would completely side with Austin in every circumstance, sycophant.
@dhenderson1810 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dhenderson1810 the guys a austin idiot fanguy, all these guys do in the comments is make up excuses for him, he beat his wife, oh everyone makes mistakes all of a sudden, but other guys do it, they bring it up 24/7
As much as i love austin & to me he is the goat, he was a hypocrite.
Back in those ecw promos he complained of being held down but when he got on top He did the same thing to other guys
@@AdamRose-b1e he had his reasons Marc mero
Got power bombed by a woman can’t have a 5 to ten minute match after that, Jeff Jarrett is mid card at best and brock he would of done it on Ppv
I’m a huge Steve Austin fan and we can see he can be a politicker but for you to say that when we know about pre back injury Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan. Nah…
@@dwaynejpeterkin excuses excuses, gosh, just admit it
@@theonlygoodonehere2259 would u wrestle marc mero for 20 minutes after getting powerbombed by a woman
@@dwaynejpeterkin yes, its the wrestling business, things happen, he was aught off guard, and went easy on her, so that would be the excuse, where mero goes full hard mode on austin
i dont think i could call him after almost paralyzing him.. i mean what are you going to say, sorry?
Jeff Jarrett had to be on the top of this list
Beefcake was a bigger draw than Stunning SA. Stunning SA was never a main event gimmick.
Kinda weak tbh
The GOAT (It isnt Austin) should be able to work with anyone. Its just Business.
Ok bro😂
I see hate Bad News Brown gets for talking bout having to discipline Owen for his BS it’s weird love for Owen as if he was infallible.
He seems like a great father and good guy but def wild for almost paralyzing a guy n not checking in on him. He was an asshole with Bad News and caught some discipline for it.
Austin was great and none of these really bother me including the Brock one because he's right about there should be a story but at the end of the day Austin did plead no contest to assaulting Debra. In reality, he deserves just as much scorn as Hogan gets for the N word but it seems words are louder than actions to many people.
Everybody makes mistakes. These guys are in the public eye. I'm sure you've done things you regret too.
@@Rschr101 I hope you keep that same energy for everyone who commits the same acts, right?
He hated Jerry & not Jeff?
Don't forget the 317 lb (@10% bodyfat) Batista ... he gave Austin & creative a nightmare in terms of promo or setting up any kind of 1v1 match ... he couldnt just surprise stun him or beat him in a brawl and look believable doing so, because lets face it that version of Batista would kill him.
I noticed a pattern with Austin when he became a headliner. Anyone who is bigger/stronger than him physically, and is also over with the crowd, Austin often avoided. I.e Kevin Nash, Hogan, Brock, Goldberg and as mentioned Batista ...
He’s a fake tuf guy
Nash was a mid carder compared to Austin
austin would try to burty batista if it was attitude era
Hogan was a politicking, backstabbing egomaniac, I don’t blame anyone for wanting to work with the overhyped, mediocre “star”.
I thought stone cold hated Jarrett because of Debra
Stonewoke Steve Austin
Well, I'd hate working with Steve Austin too. But we all got to learn to deal with our headaches.
Never liked Jeff.
He didn't botch the pile driver he did it how you shouldnt despite telling auston he would fall to his knees and not his butt
What the fuck are you talking about?
He broke Austin’s neck you gimp. He fucked up.
WWE took out Owen Hart to save the other talents. With that being said, Stone Cold was a bit of a diva.
Austin’s matches were mostly terrible. Masters like Bret dragged him to some great matches though. Jarrett’s promo was great, nailed it. Could’ve been a money feud.
This is pure nonsense Austin had fantastic matches with guys like
Bret, Foley, Rock, HHH, Benoit, Angle, and Jericho and that's just his fed run
Because he also had great matches with guys like Steamboat, Windahm, and Zybsco in WCW @joen8529
What an idiot
@@jamalwalker04 because they all carried him, lmao, reread his reply again, thats what he is sating
Are we going to ignore the fact that Austin has violently beaten up multiple ex wives. It's weird, because Austin is beloved, we brush over such. However when a wrestler is unpopular we justify their whole existence by their misdemeanors. The fans are ultimately the biggest hypocrites of all
Uh, yes we are, because if you try to mesh kayfabe with reality you will find that most wrestlers before John Cena's era, are steroid using cocaine sniffing wife beating bar fighting SOBs for real, most are terrible persons didn't have good education and that's a big part why they chose to do this job, this fucking job for a long time does not pay that much, you get in a ton of pain might not even be able for afford hospital, you risk your life daily and more than likely you never got over not even famous.
Not everyone, actually I would say most wrestlers are not like Edge and Christian, they don't suffer for your entertainment because they are saints do it for the love, mostly because they are close to criminals that society don't have good jobs for them, they do brought good future tho, the wrestling part might not be as thrilling as of late 90s, but WWE today is a legit entertainment production company, wrestlers are workers, they got paid at least above average, there are OK medicare programs, and locker rooms are mostly cool. So that' why we should forget, you can't change the past, make sure current positivity stays that's more important.
I bet he put a stuner on them
@therocklau oh man, you are so so so correct sir. You raised those points which my grandmother used to tell me when I was a kid but with changing time, glamour etc we just idioloze these wrestlers. The truth is what you have mentioned.
We all make mistakes son.
Stone cold was a selfish person who didnt want to put anyone over. Even refused to show up at wrestlemania 40.
Hes lucky vince gave him privalige of the golden ticket feuding with him
He tapped out to angle and Jericho who needed the rub
@@dwaynejpeterkinI bet he needed persuading and getting his wins back to get him to do that.
He never put Vince over.
@@dhenderson1810 nah he was reasonable plus you needed a face on 01 to compete against Austin as a heel as for putting over Vince he doesn’t need to go over he owns the company
@@dwaynejpeterkin But RAW finished each week wlth Austin having one upped McMahon.
When did Vince leave RAW, having got the better of Austin?
@@dhenderson1810 some moments in 98 like the time he got him arrested or when he fired him and had the McMahon 316 or the time undertaker had his hands on him with McMahon around
Austin was a diva for sure. We could have gotten a bunch of bangers with Badass Billy Gunn. Instead we got a bunch of pointless matches with Rikishi.
I think Stone Cold had a serious me first attitude...
You don’t get to the top of the WWE without a me first attitude
@IbrahimMuhammad_114 It sure didnt work for the Ultimate Warrior...Look how that turned out
@@ابراهيم_محمد_الازهر if other guys did what austin did, they would get crucified, bs excuses after bs excuses in these replies
Jarrett is nepotism at its worst, hes never been over, he acts like a baby backstage, continually forcing himself into the top of the roster, and im sorry but hes not on Austin or really anyones level, no offense to his fans but he was terrible all around and never got over or even a really involved heel reactions from the crowd.