Man, you basically just gave a full list of all the things I decided I had to change within a week of getting my 10th gen. The shifter had to be done immediately, it was SO BAD stock. I installed all of the Acuity stuff short of the full $500 shifter assembly, and it's so much better.
i come back to this video every so often because of the fire cinematic intro! solid work man. Just got a 11th gen si and wanna start making content as well!!
The rev hang almost made me trade in my 2020 Si Coupe. Love the car but god that was annoying to deal with. I legit hated driving the car because of it. I disabled it with Hondata and it drives so much better without it. Really hope Honda fixes that issue in newer Si's because it makes me not wanna buy another Si. It's a fun car that's ruined by that. My buddy has a 2019 Si Sedan and I drove his car recently and the rev hang in it is horrible. His car would jerk between every shift. I had a 2018 LX Coupe before the Si and that car had no rev hang and I honestly regretted trading that car in for the Si once I noticed the rev hang. I did not like having passengers in my car because of the rev hang. Hondata literally saved me from buying a new car. There is no way I would've kept the car if I couldn't get rid of the rev hang.
I get multiple people that tell me to switch out the OEM shifter, but I have never had a problem. I changed out my shift knob, and have even gotten compliments from other people that have modified their shifter assembly and have driven my car, they asked what I did to it, and then when I tell them it is 100% OEM, they are baffled about how smooth and precise it is. Maybe certain batches of cars were made differently?
I'm used to the rev hang bc I grandpa shift. I always turn off the migration auto collision brake bc it's sometime brake by itself or merging into next lane closed by cars. I'm getting new awe exhaust than imma ktune it
My only complaint about the shifter was the shift knob, which I switched out for a weighted carbon fiber knob. My main problem with my 2018 was how much oil it burned. I should've held onto it, cause I could've gotten all my money back instead of eating 10k in a year and a half of owning it. ☹️
@@jesseperrella I owned an 8th gen before my 2019 and it is a really fun car. Definitely has a different personality than the 10th. It’s also quite a bit slower due to the lack of torque compared to the 10th gen. But even with it being slower than the 10th it’s still a really fun car. Definitely worth upgrading to the 10th at the end of the day!
Something that really bothers me is maybe 1/100 times my shifter will lock halfway in to 1st gear. I go back into neutral and back to 1st and it might do it again twice. Then finalllyy I can get it into 1st. This a problem for anyone else? (Mine is a 2017 Sedan btw)
The thing I hate about my 2018 si is that I can hear a slight whirring noise in 2nd and 4th gear n the dealership doesn’t want to do nothing because the technician said it’s normal
@@inconspicuous_ox yea I think that’s what it is cuz a few people told me it’s normal I just obsess on that noise tho 😂😭 guess it’s time to get an exhaust to drown it out lol
@@Coupe.life951 you’ll know for sure it’s the transmission if you keep the clutch in and put it in gear. If you hear that whirring noise wind up then you know for sure it’s the transmission
@@Coupe.life951 hmm it still might be the transmission, I have a 27won race rear motor mount so that may be skewing my experience of what it sounds like a little. But I also have never driven or been in a stock 10th gen civic either so
Hey Chris..how do you get out the stains on your interior...I hate that shit as well...if it's complex hopefully we can get an interior detailing vid 🤷🏿♂️
@@ChrisLowpesI'm wondering how you feel about the way Honda attached the OEM spoiler to the trunk. Mine is parked outside and the spoiler is constantly catching leaves and twigs ... it's like a dam, because the spoiler is not raised off the trunk. I know if I remove it to change to another configuration there will be about 12 bolt holes in the trunk lid. Any ideas????
All those hates are not an issue for the K20C2 Civic. Clutch, mount, swaybars, bushing, spring and shocks are all perfectly tuned for the high revving k-series engine Base version share a lot with Si's component and makes it over-engineered for its small torque output (perhaps not sway linkage since Canadian LX uses metal linkages and dynamically is more willing to rotate). Given that Si need work to realize its potential, the base LX 6MT is ready for the track straight out of the assembly line...I'm not sure about US version, but base Canadian LX has everything you need for track days, except for dedicated summer tires and track pads. I suspect Honda is pissed at the Canadian for making this car so capable...it messes up their bean counters.
I have even noticed the clutch slippage in just the base models civics too I'm doing a clutch upgrade soon I have a question is all the 10th gen civics have the same clutch cause I can't seem to find any information on after market clutches for lx civic
ill be honest the only times i really feel the rev hang is like when i do a half pull like 1-2 and i just coast... but besides that driving it like a gandma to try and break 30mpg or fully sending it thorugh the gears i dont reallly mind it.
Everyone, including me, hates that crappy armrest fabric! It feels rough, and it's insanely prone to stains. I see some people on etsy make neoprene covers for the center console though, but they're a little pricey.
I hate taking my civic to the shop.. never know if my body will come out straight or if there will be oily hand prints on armrest/interior. Have a wheel bearing to do.. not looking fwd to it 😑.
@@Spectre-xj7lx Of course. It's just silly that it comes that way. I think the touring models have a "pleather" option though, so if you go that route you could avoid it all together.
Anyone else have an impossible time driving this car from a stop? Getting " bobbing"? Almost like you always never giving it enough gas or dumping the clutch to fast?
It’s funny everything I don’t like or have issues with my car is in this video and in the comments. A lot of these issues are normal. I’ve seen a lot of these complaints on Facebook groups.
My biggest complaint is the air conditioning system. Mine has broken twice and it broke the second time, conveniently outside of the warranty. I live in SoCal so it gets hot as fuck here. Otherwise I love my FC1 ☺️
Mine is making a like whistling noise. I don’t have any extra warranties besides the one it comes with being a CPO 17’. You think it will be covered or no?
@@edgars6081 honestly no idea bro. I haven’t brought this into the dealership to try and swindle them to fix it yet myself. It’s a known issue so there is hope in that at least.
Nature of DI nothing you can really do about it , I'm at 60k virgin engine never opened and I'm fBO + w1 and e85 never had a issue but I do change my oil every 3k but that's because I drive it hard and daily it
@@hussali8838 don't quite know never been dynod also im on the street MAF housing still and I've spoken to a few people and they all have said with out the street you ain't breaking 300 even on E
My top 5 things I hate about my 2020 si 1. First to second gear is horrible 2 the foo foo carbon on the inside. 3 the clothes on the door and center console 4 the mat wheels are the worst to keep clean with all the break dust 5 the weak ass clutch
I’m running tuned with cai, exhaust, catless downpipe 270wheel 320wheel torque for over 10k miles and the motor has been great no issues. I do pulls every time I drive too if that helps.
It's good if you shift slow but for fast shifters, it causes the car to be jerky and drive rough. It's when you start shifting fast that it becomes a problem. I disabled it in my car and the car drives so much better without it.
The rev hang issue is only an issue with standards. People say automatics have it but I've driven a lot of newer automatics and none of the ones I drove have that issue or if they do, it's not as bad as it is on the standards because I don't notice it. I definitely noticed it on the Si.
Got cobra Cai, hks exhaust, mishimoto intercooler and charge pipes. I flashed back to stock and didn't slip since. Like Chris said they just don't hold power. Or you can be lucky and have no problems .sound like your a lucky one 🤙🏽
@@Maroco918 I get it you could be giving it like 60-70% throttle and be ok and just not punch it , but where is the fun in that. After all It's a si for Pete sake it's bred for abuse not babying gears lol . We just all need clutches period.
For me l is everything about my 2019 Si except the seats. When I first bought the car brand new I was comfortable but I guess I didn’t test drive it long enough. My hips don’t like the low seating.
Fast forward to 1:10 to start the actual video
10th gen gang 👊🏽😏
YESSIRRR
Only problem I keep running into is my splash shield dropping and it’s pissing me off
@@nola2x200 YO FACTSSS I REPLACED MIND TWICE and a flood happened and it scraped off 🤧
Agreed about the shitty armrest and revhang. Disagree big time about the shifter. It is the best shifter that Honda has put on the SI.
Man, you basically just gave a full list of all the things I decided I had to change within a week of getting my 10th gen. The shifter had to be done immediately, it was SO BAD stock. I installed all of the Acuity stuff short of the full $500 shifter assembly, and it's so much better.
Honestly I’ve seen people love and hate the stock shifter, mine definitely sucked! The acuity short shifter assembly is much better!
You got me with the 2nd gear squishy feeling. Thought it was only me! But yeah from 1st to 2nd is terrible
Don’t get me started with the jerky 1st to 2nd shift either 🤦🏾♂️
I took mine in yesterday for this reason, they said everything was normal but I still feel it Ahhhhh I guess it's normal.
@@kidstarr100 just test drove a couple and they all had that lmao
@@kidstarr100 feels like your breaking the car it’s fucked
@@kidstarr100 feels like your breaking the car it sucks
My buddy just sold his for 28k and its listed on carmax for 33k lol
and I was the one who bought it hagglin' it down to 30 k. 😌😌
Wtf that’s a lot
i come back to this video every so often because of the fire cinematic intro! solid work man. Just got a 11th gen si and wanna start making content as well!!
I really appreciate it!! 11th gens are awesome
I just had my clutch and flywheel replaced. Went for ACT stage 1 clutch and the chromoly flywheel. Car is still in the shop but I'm pumped!
How is the clutch?
The rev hang almost made me trade in my 2020 Si Coupe. Love the car but god that was annoying to deal with. I legit hated driving the car because of it. I disabled it with Hondata and it drives so much better without it. Really hope Honda fixes that issue in newer Si's because it makes me not wanna buy another Si. It's a fun car that's ruined by that. My buddy has a 2019 Si Sedan and I drove his car recently and the rev hang in it is horrible. His car would jerk between every shift. I had a 2018 LX Coupe before the Si and that car had no rev hang and I honestly regretted trading that car in for the Si once I noticed the rev hang. I did not like having passengers in my car because of the rev hang. Hondata literally saved me from buying a new car. There is no way I would've kept the car if I couldn't get rid of the rev hang.
Had to watch after seeing this on the fb groups. Nice video man 👌
I appreciate you taking the time to watch it, thank you!
It looks great! I drive a black Acura RSX Type S with the Honda red badge on both front and rear.
That’s awesome! Rsx type s are great cars!
I get multiple people that tell me to switch out the OEM shifter, but I have never had a problem. I changed out my shift knob, and have even gotten compliments from other people that have modified their shifter assembly and have driven my car, they asked what I did to it, and then when I tell them it is 100% OEM, they are baffled about how smooth and precise it is. Maybe certain batches of cars were made differently?
I'm used to the rev hang bc I grandpa shift. I always turn off the migration auto collision brake bc it's sometime brake by itself or merging into next lane closed by cars. I'm getting new awe exhaust than imma ktune it
My only complaint about the shifter was the shift knob, which I switched out for a weighted carbon fiber knob.
My main problem with my 2018 was how much oil it burned. I should've held onto it, cause I could've gotten all my money back instead of eating 10k in a year and a half of owning it. ☹️
How many miles did your car have? Looking at a 2018 with 42k and wondering about any problems
@@forin9345 by the time I sold it, 35k. I hear it's anyone's guess on whether you'll get one that burns oil or doesn't.
Yep, sounds about right. Love my 2019 Si though, such a fun car.
I been seriously debating trading in my 8th gen for a 10th
@@throbbybobby7893 They are so fun, but ive never driven an 8th gen so I dont know how it compares
@@jesseperrella I owned an 8th gen before my 2019 and it is a really fun car. Definitely has a different personality than the 10th. It’s also quite a bit slower due to the lack of torque compared to the 10th gen. But even with it being slower than the 10th it’s still a really fun car. Definitely worth upgrading to the 10th at the end of the day!
@@joeseibert1425 I wish I could feel the original VTEC.. one day! No matter what Si you have though they are all a blast!
Something that really bothers me is maybe 1/100 times my shifter will lock halfway in to 1st gear. I go back into neutral and back to 1st and it might do it again twice. Then finalllyy I can get it into 1st. This a problem for anyone else? (Mine is a 2017 Sedan btw)
yepp
Yup
it’s irritating
I also have a 17’ it happens to me too
It sucks. I have this.
I totally agree with your review. This is why I upgraded to a Type R.
bro just excellent quality content
Thank you!!
Subscribed because the intro was 🔥
Thank you!!
3:25 Rev hanging is much less apparent if you place the car in Econo mode!
The thing I hate about my 2018 si is that I can hear a slight whirring noise in 2nd and 4th gear n the dealership doesn’t want to do nothing because the technician said it’s normal
That might be the transmission gears, they tend to have a whirring noise
@@inconspicuous_ox yea I think that’s what it is cuz a few people told me it’s normal I just obsess on that noise tho 😂😭 guess it’s time to get an exhaust to drown it out lol
@@Coupe.life951 you’ll know for sure it’s the transmission if you keep the clutch in and put it in gear. If you hear that whirring noise wind up then you know for sure it’s the transmission
@@inconspicuous_ox it only makes the noise when accelerating between 2k-4K rpms when the clutch is pushed in it goes away
@@Coupe.life951 hmm it still might be the transmission, I have a 27won race rear motor mount so that may be skewing my experience of what it sounds like a little. But I also have never driven or been in a stock 10th gen civic either so
Hey Chris..how do you get out the stains on your interior...I hate that shit as well...if it's complex hopefully we can get an interior detailing vid 🤷🏿♂️
Honestly I use fabric cleaner and a rag!
Lookin soo good !
I really was expecting you to hate on the chrome trim above the windows. I want it gone SO BAD.
Where did you get your spoiler from do you mind sharing the link?? Great video by the way man!
The spoiler extension is from Caruse. I have a video on it, check it out!
@@ChrisLowpes ok thanks man! Can you send me the link I searched and searched and can't find it
@@ChrisLowpesI'm wondering how you feel about the way Honda attached the OEM spoiler to the trunk. Mine is parked outside and the spoiler is constantly catching leaves and twigs ... it's like a dam, because the spoiler is not raised off the trunk. I know if I remove it to change to another configuration there will be about 12 bolt holes in the trunk lid. Any ideas????
When do you recommend changing the factory clutch? I'm almost finishing my fc3 full bolt on. Good video brother 🇵🇦
whenever it starts slipping lol
Factory only holds 250
*250 lb/ft of torque
Just wait until yours starts slipping, some people go ahead and change it right away if they are planning on going big power
Order it now! Everything is taking way longer than expected. You don’t want to be stuck with no car with no clutch because they’re back ordered .
All those hates are not an issue for the K20C2 Civic. Clutch, mount, swaybars, bushing, spring and shocks are all perfectly tuned for the high revving k-series engine Base version share a lot with Si's component and makes it over-engineered for its small torque output (perhaps not sway linkage since Canadian LX uses metal linkages and dynamically is more willing to rotate). Given that Si need work to realize its potential, the base LX 6MT is ready for the track straight out of the assembly line...I'm not sure about US version, but base Canadian LX has everything you need for track days, except for dedicated summer tires and track pads. I suspect Honda is pissed at the Canadian for making this car so capable...it messes up their bean counters.
Use Sonax Interior Cleaner. Cleans the fabric armrests very well. Greetings From Panama 🇵🇦👍🏻
Great to know, thanks!!
I have even noticed the clutch slippage in just the base models civics too I'm doing a clutch upgrade soon I have a question is all the 10th gen civics have the same clutch cause I can't seem to find any information on after market clutches for lx civic
ill be honest the only times i really feel the rev hang is like when i do a half pull like 1-2 and i just coast... but besides that driving it like a gandma to try and break 30mpg or fully sending it thorugh the gears i dont reallly mind it.
I sometimes start off on 2nd.
went crazy on the cinematics bro keep it up
Thanks man appreciate it!
I agree
Everyone, including me, hates that crappy armrest fabric! It feels rough, and it's insanely prone to stains. I see some people on etsy make neoprene covers for the center console though, but they're a little pricey.
I hate taking my civic to the shop.. never know if my body will come out straight or if there will be oily hand prints on armrest/interior.
Have a wheel bearing to do.. not looking fwd to it 😑.
can it be re upholstered tho? cuz that’s what I did with my 1997 Honda Civic, and I plan on upgrading to a 2016 Civic.
@@Spectre-xj7lx Of course. It's just silly that it comes that way. I think the touring models have a "pleather" option though, so if you go that route you could avoid it all together.
@@jamest7485 cool. thanks for the info! i mainly work on old cars, so the new civic would be a dive into the newer gen, which is why I was unsure. lol
The type R bumper fit wow
Anyone else have an impossible time driving this car from a stop? Getting " bobbing"? Almost like you always never giving it enough gas or dumping the clutch to fast?
Where did you get the spoiler piece from? Looks good buddy
One of his recent videos features it, it’s the caruse design aero flap for the si sedan
I agree 150%
Where did you get the red Honda badging kit? I can’t find the right badge size for the front of my 2020 si sedan?
I think some areoflowdynamics v1 side skirts on top of the hfp side skirts would complete the look
I just did something like that but carbon ones from them@si_gfx ig
10th gen Civics are beautiful
Thumbnail is fresh!
Thank you!!
How’s the lip been holding up since you trimmed the mesh ?
It’s been fine, I haven’t had any issues
Yo bro what mod is that on your steering wheel? The red one that you put on the bottom part of it.
I think he replaced it with a type r steering wheel
Sick cinematic
Thanks bro!!
It’s funny everything I don’t like or have issues with my car is in this video and in the comments. A lot of these issues are normal. I’ve seen a lot of these complaints on Facebook groups.
My biggest complaint is the air conditioning system. Mine has broken twice and it broke the second time, conveniently outside of the warranty. I live in SoCal so it gets hot as fuck here. Otherwise I love my FC1 ☺️
That’s unfortunate! I personally haven’t had any issues
Mine is making a like whistling noise. I don’t have any extra warranties besides the one it comes with being a CPO 17’. You think it will be covered or no?
@@edgars6081 honestly no idea bro. I haven’t brought this into the dealership to try and swindle them to fix it yet myself. It’s a known issue so there is hope in that at least.
The thing I hated Most about owning a 2018 honda civic hatch sport was that it was stolen in 2 hours at the burbank mall parking lot...
What black shift boot were u running before?
I had a black bride shift boot and the oem one
What’s a fly wheel
ay, yo! link those rear bumpers real quick!
Bro serious question here when do you ever drive in 5th or 6th gear ? 😭
On the highway!
@@ChrisLowpes even so bro I swear I be in 5th prob goin 75 -80 but i prob put my car in 6th gear like 8 times for the total 5 years I had it 😭😭 lol
Do you have a link to the clutch and flywheel you have.?
I purchased them through unity-performance.com
You lost me at “full throttle 5th gear”
White did you get that car seats?
The stock ones are terrible
My back hurts
These are oem seats that come with the car
Que buen video
Does a intake void warranty!
You would have to double check with your dealership
Is anyone worried bout the oil dilution ? I change my oil every 5k but i still smell gas in the oil and ive been using royal purple any thoughts?
That's just the nature of DIG
Nature of DI nothing you can really do about it , I'm at 60k virgin engine never opened and I'm fBO + w1 and e85 never had a issue but I do change my oil every 3k but that's because I drive it hard and daily it
@@bruisedavocado65 whats your numbers like bro
@@hussali8838 don't quite know never been dynod also im on the street MAF housing still and I've spoken to a few people and they all have said with out the street you ain't breaking 300 even on E
The armrest are the absolute worst! Talk about sandpaper for a material. Definitely gonna rip mine out and re-upholster them.
Why did you get rid of the PRL CAI?
I still have it, what maybe is throwing you off is the 27won turbo Inlet pipe
How did you delete your bottom grill for intercooler
I trimmed it and got it painted, check out the video on the channel
What wheels and specs are those
how much hp does your car have
My top 5 things I hate about my 2020 si
1. First to second gear is horrible
2 the foo foo carbon on the inside.
3 the clothes on the door and center console
4 the mat wheels are the worst to keep clean with all the break dust
5 the weak ass clutch
Clean 🚗
Sincerely 8th gen boys
Thank you!
Sincerely a previous 8th gen boy!
From where did you got the spoiler
The spoiler extension is from Caruse
Are you still currently on d2 springs ? If so how has it held up?
Yes I am and they have been great without issue!
@@ChrisLowpes aye bro good to hear they survived the snow lmao I just got mine done on my 17 in Alberta lol
@@hussali8838 it’s always risk but you always replace the mesh on the bumper!
@@ChrisLowpes true true as long as the shocks hold up
@@hussali8838 yea they have been holding up well
The rev hang on my 05 crv is worse than my 2020 Si.
Can anyone comment on the reliability of the 1.5L turbo? Thanks
Mine personally has been even with all the upgrades!
I’m running tuned with cai, exhaust, catless downpipe 270wheel 320wheel torque for over 10k miles and the motor has been great no issues. I do pulls every time I drive too if that helps.
Nice Accord 😀
I must be the only one who doesn't have any issue with the rev hang. I usually granny shift slowly, and the hang seems perfect for matching.
The issue with rev hang is if ur a skilled driver it messes up every shift cuz it jumps to the rpm
It's good if you shift slow but for fast shifters, it causes the car to be jerky and drive rough. It's when you start shifting fast that it becomes a problem. I disabled it in my car and the car drives so much better without it.
My 2020 EX-L with leather and CVT doesn't have any of these 5 issues. 😆
The rev hang issue is only an issue with standards. People say automatics have it but I've driven a lot of newer automatics and none of the ones I drove have that issue or if they do, it's not as bad as it is on the standards because I don't notice it. I definitely noticed it on the Si.
Gotta say one thing I hate is the stock clutch. I got a v2 got phearable 1.5 and on my first pull I slipped 4th. Lmao back to stock
I've been running the same setup for months and haven't had a slip once. You have to be doing something wrong.
Got cobra Cai, hks exhaust, mishimoto intercooler and charge pipes. I flashed back to stock and didn't slip since. Like Chris said they just don't hold power. Or you can be lucky and have no problems .sound like your a lucky one 🤙🏽
I ran pherable with intake, catless dp for 10k miles without slip. It's all in how you drive
@@Maroco918 I get it you could be giving it like 60-70% throttle and be ok and just not punch it , but where is the fun in that. After all It's a si for Pete sake it's bred for abuse not babying gears lol . We just all need clutches period.
@@808keanukillah20 oh I agree replacement is necessary. But I got alot of mileage out if my stock one on that tune. No lift shifts and all.
The rev hang is assss
For me l is everything about my 2019 Si except the seats. When I first bought the car brand new I was comfortable but I guess I didn’t test drive it long enough.
My hips don’t like the low seating.
It makes me want to get rid of the car sometimes. I also have an hour commute now and sometimes hit traffic.
Sounds like you need a FD2R
I could only wish!
Why did u buy the car if your just going to complain about it?
Spent all that money to buy the car to make this one video!
no vtec
come on how much work you did on a fwd, whats the point of making a fwd look cool if you cant have fun driving it!
You can have tons of fun driving a FWD car, you just need to experience it!
Anybody else nervous af to mod they car 😭😭 ??
You’ll eventually get over it! I used to be the same
@@ChrisLowpes how’d you get over that or past that fear…??
@@ayyooojett2353 slowly but surely more mod after enough it goes away 😂
Why would you ever go full throttle in 5th at 3k rpms 😭😭😭
Trust me people do 😂
To pass?
@@Ricecookerrrrrrrrrrr at full throttle ? 😂
Be thankful you’re not driving a Subaru
I used to have a 02 Wrx wagon and I loved it 😂
excuse you, Subarus are beast. i have a 2001 Outback and she still drives greeeeaaaattt 220k miles later.