To find out more about the Single Plane Swing, I have created a "Single Plane Pocket coach" that you can take to the range, or course, and learn the fundamentals of the swing. Find out more about the Pocket Coach here: SwingPocketGuide.com.
Hi Todd, I'm a 68 yr old ex college athlete that took up golf about at 55. I struggled to a 10 handicap but could not improve from there. Last year I saw your book and purchased it. I read it cover to cover a few times. Over the winter I practiced inside. In the spring I took it to the course. I am a member of a local club that allowed me to get out by myself every morning at 6 before the first tee time. In was able to really practice on the course all the shots alone. I immediately noticed improvement. By July I was the Senior Club Champ. Beating players 15 years my junior. I shot a 2 day total of 143 on a par 71 course. I was 3 strokes off from beating the Club Champ one month later. I am now a 5.7 and regularly taking money from my much younger opponents. My wife thinks I'm nuts because I watch your videos constantly and people at the course are constantly asking about the Single plane swing. I just give them your name and tell them to do their homework. Thank you for all your help. Will you ever have a class in Massachusetts?
Todd thank you so mich for this video! I'm a new golfer and I've been watching this video all week and went to the range to practice it. I hit 300 balls today just with the driver using this technqiue. It took around 200 balls to get my address/alignment and back swing consistent. I was hitting a lot of shanks, fat shots and thin shots for a while but I kept calm and kept focusing on the mechanics. I finally figured out the sweet spot in my address and swing and started clobbering the ball 250+ and straight on most of my last 100 balls. It felt amazing hearing and feeling that perfect connection and seeing a straight line and a very high spin rate! Thanks again, you're an incredible instructor!
Todd, I am a 49 year old who shoots anywhere from 77-92, I have struggled with consistency my entire life and am absolutely fascinated by the principles that you teach, and for that matter Moe Norman himself. I am committing myself to adopting the single plane technique. Thank you so much for the unbelievably insightful videos.
Hi Tom I picked up so much from this video I'm an 18 handicapper but played to 2 under par for 10 holes today. Driver was the key long and straight, I use trevino swing my way for the irons but without this lesson I wouksnt have shot 2 under, so rhanks for all the hard work you have put in over the years Steve 👍
I’m 57 and have a couple of disabilities that make the golf swing a little more complicated. I have a partially frozen left shoulder from a previous surgery and some nerve damage in my right arm from a herniated disc I had in my neck for ten years. I’ve been working with the single plane swing for a few years now and have always struggled with the driver. I still work for a living and don’t get to spend enough time playing and practicing. I practice one day during the week when I get off work and play 36 holes on sundays. I played on the golf channel AM your a couple of years ago in the senior division in the 8-11 handicap group. I managed to win a few tournaments but luckily I hit my driver well those days. I haven’t played tournaments in a couple of years but recently got the itch to see where my game was. I played a couple of weeks ago and shot an 87. Very disappointed to say the least. I usually play to a 7 handicap on my own course but the driver and putter let me down. I watch a lot of Todd’s videos on the driver and he makes it look so simple. I feel like I do everything he does but I can’t get consistent. I end up trying different ball positions during a round and that just makes it worse. I hit my irons , hybrid and 4 wd pretty good but the same swing didn’t work for the driver. I signed up as a gold member but I’ve yet to send a video to have it critiqued because of my frozen shoulder and nerve damage issue. I feel like I am just stuck with the problem and just have to live with it. I’m having gall bladder surgery next week so I will be out of golf for a month. I may have one of my buddies video my swing tomorrow and go ahead and see if there’s something graves can do for me. Nothing sweeter than hitting a great drive! Appreciate the videos!
@Todd Graves I AM SO EXCITED! Thursday, I found your video on the 1 plane. Went through your RUclipss on the basics especially the driver and the "Pilot's view" Friday, I swung about 50 balls on the driver only at the range. Ok results, not feeling a lot of love. Later that evening I re-reviewed your RUclips include Reed Howard's take on angling the body and your setup of the driver heel at the ball line. Also took good note of what you said about the grip. Today, Saturday, on the course, I devoted my whole driver and 3 wood swing to your 1 plane. Played Woodley Lakes, Los Angeles, CA. The front 9 was average even after a disaster 1st tee shot (a weak push) but I was able to save with a Par. I had a hard time feeling & thrusting the driver swing and "letting it go". Especially the 1 plane angle setup, it was totally weird but deep down I know that's the exact plane I make contact (I have video of myself). Suffice to say, out of the 7 driving holes, only 3 were good UNTIL the 9th hole - then it CLICKED and hit a BOMB on the #1 hole, pretty much getting the ball where I have not been in a long time. #10 I RIPPED just the biggest bomb that carried EVERYTHING hazard & palm trees etc on that dogleg and the rest of the back 9 was SWEET. It was insane. My weakness is still a push or the push/fade but its ripping it out there! Now, the SOUND is so different at impact. Even my regular golfing buddy said the sound felt like the ball was crushed! I have not heard this sound in a very long time and it brought a smile to my face. The 18th was the best drive of the day. Cannot hook, it OB and it was crushed center line on the Par 5. A poor 1 plane 3 wood meant the Eagle was out but I had a chance for a bird and misread the putt at 10 feet. I was feeling the swing more and able to release the club and literally feeling like I can power or take off power on the release. I discovered that YES, this 1 plane swing is very back friendly. My back was feeling less stiff than it usually does. I have a stiff lower back (severe whiplash car accident due to a drunken driver in 2013) so I do not get much motion and it's always stiff. I was a pretty good player (3.5 handicap) back then but been searching for a golf swing that allowed me to use my body as-is and still allow me the power. I think I have found it. Shot 72 today with the driver putting me in so many chances for birdies (got 2 birds but offset by 2 bogeys and I left about 3 other birds escape due to the missed putts). So I am beyond EXCITED. Just wanted to post it - THANK YOU for showing me the power is still there. I am converted but it's going to take a while to convert my iron swing. Thanks Todd - golf life saver :)
spot on information! last two days been binge watching all your videos and Moe stuff. 63 years old and love playing golf but last year and half have been sidelined with a bad back , specifically a disfunction SI Joint, very painful and not much can be done about it. researched and found your content as a possible swing change to get me playing and practicing like I want to. spent two hours on the range yesterday getting used to the single plane swing. Hit it okay but surprisingly was able to pound balls with little to no back pain. this is a huge deal for me, no back pain after hitting balls for 2 hours! played 18 holes today and stuck with the SPS (single plane swing) whole round. wasn't my best ball striking but wasn't bad, again little to no back pain. definitely going to keep at it to get better with the SPS. so true what you said about the driver. I always tell other golfers to play a round of golf with two balls, first ball played off the tee as normal and play the second ball from middle of the fairway at their average best driver distance and play. keep score of both balls and compare the scores at the end of the round. Hitting drives in the middle of the fairway is the best way to drop 10 or more strokes. hit your drives out of the middle of the club is the best way to gain 10-20 yards!. thanks for sharing.
So true, if I'm driving well, my day is fun no matter what else is going on. Short game is crucial to score but so is not going OB or punching out from trees all day long.
At 70, after preferring ‘stack & tilt’ for years, came across your channel and tried Moe’s grip & swing plane with my 52 degree, bingo effortlessly straight. 7 iron same thing, for me it was the grip backswing and follow through just seemed to work better. On course next ... thanks for videos!
Thanks Todd for all your video’s, I think I watched all of them on RUclips. I changed to SPS about 10 months and saved the love for golf. I was frustrated with my golf game I ready to quit golf. Iam still learning everyday. I appreciate your dedication to show everybody about the single flame swing. Thanks
Todd I’ve been working on your swing for over a year and it’s amazing the effortless power once all the parts are in place I’ve had bits and pieces of it which keeps me going and day by day getting very close to having a swing almost swing itself my biggest problem was having the stability in the left knee that impact and I cured that by watching your videos over and over and it finally occurred to me if my right foot stays on the ground that impact like it supposed to there’s no problem with that left knee stability it happens automatically you’re an incredible teacher may be the best in the world someday maybe we can get together
Todd, I've been following your SPS now for about 3 weeks. I am 63 and love the "mechanical ease" Moe's swing has provided to the golfing world. I must say, I never heard of Moe Norman before, but after checking out your website and all these you tube videos, you are slowly making a convert out of me. You see, I have been taking lessons from Golf Tec with my goal to keep the ball in play off the tee....has not happened yet although I am getting better. Golf Tec teaches the conventional way to swing a golf club, but in my opinion, there is too many mechanics and things you have to think about during your swing....for me there is no "mechanical ease" like you see in the SPS. Following the SPS, I am striking the ball quite well with my irons, but find I am pushing the ball about 10-15 degrees right all the time yet the ball is traveling pretty straight or a slight fade. My driver is doing the same, but the push is a bit worse along with the fade/slice. Your thoughts? Thanks. I will let you know how it goes.
GREAT video, Todd. Hitting the driver great brings not only a personal good feeling, but often very good comments from playing partners, because it is the one full swing shot that everyone on the tee box witnesses. A great Drive not only sets you up for the next shot, but also brings immediate positive feedback from golfing partners at the beginning of a golf hole. After watching this video, my new goal is to train to help my driver become my favorite club, next the putter and 3rd my wedges, both the scoring clubs. I know I can do this with my new Single Plane Swing and my recent training with Graves Golf Academy.
Great message, Todd! Love the idea of making it a goal to have the driver as the favorite club in our bag. Takes a lot of pressure off - and it's a lot more fun - when this club is our go-to club!
Well done as always Todd. I use the Arccos system on my clubs so I am able to track clubs distances, FIRs, GIRs etc automatically. And not surprisingly, When I have 60% or better FIR I shoot in the 70's and when I am 50% or less FIR I shoot in the 80's. So not only is the round more fun from the fairway, scoring is better too!
Great videos as usual. I’ve got so much better with direction and contact with the single plane swing. I bought the training aid for the ball and feet position, helped me tremendously. I just ordered the pocket guide yesterday. My son who is a plus 3 said my swing is so much better than it’s ever been and could hear an see the difference in my contact an direction. The only problem we discovered is, I am still having an issue with my angle of attack with the driver. I worked for 2 hours on trying to get to a positive number. I did get a couple in the 1 to 1.5 range but mostly -2 to -4 and even a couple -5. I have to work on this because I’m not getting the distance I want, spin to high. Although the drives were GREAT direction . This video explains it pretty well, got to get the positions properly set. My driver can be adjusted from 9 to 12 and I know the positions are more important but my swing speed is in the 90 mph range so is there a loft you would recommend ? Thanks for helping me transform my game. This is the final issue I need to fix. 11 handicap wanting to get to single digit at 68 years old . Your the best Todd thanks for all your content on the web.
Thank you for your post on the driver swing. I'm trying to make it work but what it seems to promote for me, especially with a wider stance, is that it promotes hitting "at the ball" instead of swinging through it. It seems difficult to release the club since my stance is wider and more difficult to turn through to completion. Therefore my results are inconsistent slices and pulls. But I'll keep working on it!
Never heard such a true statement as your opening intro to this video. Impossible to enjoy your round of golf if your not finding fairways. If you go off our fairways even by a metre you are in serious trouble I will work on these mechanics diligently Thanks
This is an amazing video. Been using your system by just watching your videos Todd. Thanks, i just noticed one thing. With the allignment and ball position trainer, ive noticed in this video that the ball position its more between the DBP and Zone. To be more exact 10mm on the right of the P. i was having trouble putting it on the left of the D. But now it all makes sense and once i put it like i saw here in your video... it works charm ! Great work Todd and thanks again.
Wow great video, wish I saw this before my gold trip to Myrtle Beach. I was hitting my drive all over the place and topping it as well. It was nice to see the different angle from the back and facing so I could see the set up better. My feet were no where near that wide at address. Thanks
Hi Todd Thought l would give the single plain swing a go after hitting 66 ( age not score!) I am a single figure golfer but even at my age hope l can still improve. What soon became apparent was Moe's transition, which causes a sweet delay in the club leading to a lovely snap at impact, l could only get that 1 in five times no matter what l tried. I think that was his real talent and made it look easy.
Good stuff. I’ve only been trying this for 3 or 4 rounds and I’m striking the ball so much better. My hideous low hook is all but banished!! This driver vid is welcome though, my irons have been sweet but I don’t think I’ve been getting the driver address quite correct - yet!
Just tried the single plane swing and my irons were great. My woods were good as well. But I had trouble with the driver. I think my stance was not wide enough.
Todd, I watched this one more carefully, especially the set up positions and picked up two more concepts you mentioned that I was not doing quite right with the driver and that was the alignment of the club head to your nose and the shaft to your left side pivot point. I also noted your head is slightly tilted right?? I hear you about putting 50% of practise balls using the driver, which for my course, is 14 out of 18 holes which is 77%!!
Driver, fairway woods, hybrids are great with this swing. The sweeping type swings. I am having trouble though with the iron play using it. Mishitting and not compressing ball.
Hi Todd. Roland 65 from South Africa. Love you videos. This one is great. I'm trying to change to the single plane swing. Hands position for me so essential as well Thanks
I like the advice. I play a 6,000 yard course. If I hit 14 drives of 250 yards each that equals 3,500 yards or slightly less than 60% of the course yardage.
I swear I’m a single digit between the tee box and 4 feet from the hole. I can live without being a great putter because that’s just a score(number) but not being able to get off the tee box is taking the fun out of the game for me. I’ve two problems with the driver, keeping my back foot down and trying to kill the ball. Since the driver isn’t a “specific” distance club I just lose any control I have with the rest of the bag. Thanks for the great information Todd!
Hit a jumbo bucket of balls (120) and at least 75% are with my driver. That is why I switched to Moe’s single plain swing under Todd Graves. I was so inconsistent with my driver, now it’s my favourite club
Great content Todd. I watch mostly all of your videos. I’m very interested in learning the single plane swing. I’m tired of taking lessons and walking away an hour later with a sore back and looking like I’ve never hit a golf ball in my life. It’s very frustrating. On May 2, 2020 I weighed 330 pounds and I’m 6’3”. Well I went on a diet plan and I’m now down to 267 and I’m losing more weight. I was hoping to get a better turn on the ball and more distance with the weight loss but it hasn’t materialized. To make a long story short do you know anyone that teaches the single plane swing in the Augusta Georgia and Columbia SC areas? Thank you for everything you’re doing to make us better golfers! Norman Sykes
Great video. Am I right in thinking that with the right foundation and biomechanics that it might be possible to leave the driver settings in the default positions?
Your thoughts on single length clubs to combine with this swing?? As a weekend golfer I am trying to cut down on variables and feel these two would work well together. I just swapped my older set for Cobra F-Max but they are standard lengths. Then found your channel and now want to really throw myself into this style so may swap them out for the Cobra one length. Thoughts appreciated!!
Thanks for these videos! I've tried the single plane swing a few times, but as I've gotten older (52) I'm finding it's much easier on my back. I also feel like I can swing more aggressively with this swing. My question is about the set up. You talk a lot about tilting the upper body, so that the spine is at an angle away from the target. I'm curious how this affects the weight distribution on the feet. Do you feel more weight on the back foot at address, or do you even that out by shifting the hips forward? Thanks!
Just my two cents here, Robert. I just tried this for the first time today and I loved it. I did feel like my weight was on my back foot about 60% (maybe more) but I just ignored it. I too felt like I could swing way harder but still be in control. With my old swing, I felt like I had to hold back to maintain control. Excited!
Hey Todd! Love the single plane. Recently purchased the alignment trainer. Very helpful! Does an individuals height affect where you place your feet when hitting the driver? Thanks in advance!
Thayer. How tall are you? For people who are 5'7 to 6'3", with the driver- the ball is placed in front of the "P" on the trainer. that places it inside the lead foot. Then your width should be at D/FW. This places the lead shoulder behind the ball for the proper strike.
Thanks Todd great advice as always. Have been waiting for some driver advice as I have been tending to slice a bit. Irons are fine. Cheers from Down Under.
Hi Todd, I have 2 questions for you. 1. When you setup are your shoulders pointing down the line or to the right? 2. When swinging your hands and arms, I believe, are soft. At what time during the downswing do you start to feel your arms/hands kicking in? Thanks. I appreciate it. Gerry
Here are links to all training aids. Links for Graves Golf Training Aids: Alignment and Ball Position Trainer (ABT) - Right Handed: bit.ly/2Mu0GwL Alignment and Ball Position Trainer (ABT) - Left Handed: bit.ly/2tX7vk0 Feeling of Greatness Training Club: bit.ly/38kAJrU Promo Code: RUclips20 for 20% Single Plane Trainer: bit.ly/2MyPdvH Leverage Bag: bit.ly/352keyG I feel the arms "kicking in" at about waist high in the donwswing.
Not an expert but here is what I think. Feel hands kicking in when pelvis stops turning. Torso is open and shoulders are closed to target line. Todd has a video about this
My driver was off today, it is my favorite club. The last 5 drives i was hitting pop ups. Watching this video i think i know what i was doing wrong. The driving range just opened, i'll hit it tomorrow. Thanks Todd
Hi Todd, Very timely video for me. I attended your school 7 or 8 years ago, own most of your videos and training aids. Got down to an 11 from 18 and was pretty happy. Two years ago I injured myself and couldn't play golf. Through lots of PT and Aleve, I was able to start playing again in April. The short game sucked but I was striping my driver. Golf was fun even though there were more scores over 90 than under. So, the last few weeks I worked exclusively on the short game. Yesterday I missed every fairway on the front 9. Completely lost my feel with the driver. I wanted to open a vein. Luckily, I went back to full on concentration on the single plane swing basics on #10. Checked and rechecked grip, ball position, stance width, spine tilt and trail heel (the culprit I believe). I hit all the fairways except one coming in and shot 41. If I can't drive the ball, I don't like golf.
Another amazing vid. My goal is to get to your school in-person at some point! Are you willing to say what driver and degree you think is best for single plane swing?
I'd like to hit my driver more but I have been glued to my 3w because I get 260-270yds without major slice. Hopefully this helps me with my drives. I'm losing distance constantly using 3 wood
Where to start???? I’ve been playing for about 27 years but over the last 4 years or so, I’ve gotten really serious about getting better and I have. In the beginning of 2021, for whatever reason, I just lost my swing. I tried stack and tilt and it really helped me hit my irons better, but I never figured it out for the driver. I rarely hit it flush and when I did I would only get about 220-230 total (tops) and that was on my best shots. My typical drive was like 200-205. I got so messed up with the driver and stack and tilt that I actually put it away and just hit 3 wood off the tee. To give you an idea, i hit my 5 iron about 195 so to see my driver shots go no where was incredibly frustrating. Anyway, I watched this video today and decided to take my driver to a simulator and just try it. It went really well. I started out by slicing my drives badly, but once I figured out ball position as well width of my stance, I began to crank out 250-260 drives (carry) with my longest being 264. It felt great. At first it was weird to have the club in line with my lead arm, as is prescribed, but I got used to it pretty quickly and it was really good from there. It feels like a much easier way to swing the club hard. The idea of widening your stance to create a limitation is the opposite of what I’ve always learned, but it really does work to quiet things down with the legs. I can still turn, and powerfully, but it allows me to feel more in control. I think I found my swing. I began to use it with my irons with mixed results but i think it’s just a matter of finding the ball position and stance width. I’m excited! Thx Todd!
@@ToddGravesGolf thank you. Since I've been doing the single plane swing my club path got a bit too much from the inside, +4, making me hit too much draw. Was wondering if that's normal or maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Great video Todd as always. Could you do a video or explain when Moe said I always want the heal leading the toe never toe leading the heal. Did he mean an open club face? Thanks.
The driver is the only club I practice with at my local range. This is because you are practicing off mats. With the driver off a tee you get as near as you can to a golf course tee box, however with the other clubs off a mat gives you false feedback. You have to practice off grass if possible with the rest the bag. Hope this makes sense Stay safe from lockdown England.
Hey Todd, not sure if this will reach you but figured I’d try. So recently, I’ve been hitting duck hooks with my driver lately the past 5 outings and don’t know what’s going on. I have been implementing your teachings for a while now and out of nowhere I’ve been hooking like crazy, I normally fade and not sure what to do. I’ve watched other videos to fix it but doesn’t seem to work well for single plane golf swings. Any tips or suggestions, anything would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Pretty high shot Todd but always straight love that.... is that 10.5 degree if I went back further with right foot wouldn't it make it more like 12 degrees?
I noticed Moe sometimes had the ball opposite his left foot or slightly in front of his left foot. I noticed he addressed the ball behind the ball with the heel of the driver. Was this to square the clubface at impact and stop hitting a fade or slice ? Thank you
How does one aim ?. I have been trying conventional golf ( aiming with the feet and or the club face) and I'm all over the show. So idecided to try the single plain and it does work but I'm still all over. I do use an alignment stick or club but i struggle to get let say five straight to the target. Any advice please. Blessings Morné
The guys I play with call me the Arborist. I can hit great shots under the trees but it totally screws me and my score, the driver is a big deal. I’ve decided to call you the Mechanic your spot on with your teachings. I’m sixty seven years old and who says you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Maybe the guys will start calling me Mr. Fairway in the future with this swing. As always thanks, be safe!
i must say after trying the SPS for 78 holes and missing only ONE fairway, it has changed me completely! I keep trying to get my golf mates to at least try it, but they're too mule headed to try it, even after i keep hitting balls straight down the course! Next week, I'm re-shafting my putter for an extra 3-4 inches. Thanks Todd for the wonderful instructions!
To find out more about the Single Plane Swing, I have created a "Single Plane Pocket coach" that you can take to the range, or course, and learn the fundamentals of the swing. Find out more about the Pocket Coach here: SwingPocketGuide.com.
Is there anyway to buy your pocket guide electronic version? I live in Vietnam and its a big hassle for books to get through customs
Okay you got me, I clicked the link and ordered it all.
Love the driver! You are right that if the driver is on and you’re not looking constantly for balls, the game is so much more fun!
Hi Todd, I'm a 68 yr old ex college athlete that took up golf about at 55. I struggled to a 10 handicap but could not improve from there. Last year I saw your book and purchased it. I read it cover to cover a few times. Over the winter I practiced inside. In the spring I took it to the course. I am a member of a local club that allowed me to get out by myself every morning at 6 before the first tee time. In was able to really practice on the course all the shots alone. I immediately noticed improvement. By July I was the Senior Club Champ. Beating players 15 years my junior. I shot a 2 day total of 143 on a par 71 course. I was 3 strokes off from beating the Club Champ one month later. I am now a 5.7 and regularly taking money from my much younger opponents. My wife thinks I'm nuts because I watch your videos constantly and people at the course are constantly asking about the Single plane swing. I just give them your name and tell them to do their homework. Thank you for all your help. Will you ever have a class in Massachusetts?
Todd thank you so mich for this video! I'm a new golfer and I've been watching this video all week and went to the range to practice it. I hit 300 balls today just with the driver using this technqiue. It took around 200 balls to get my address/alignment and back swing consistent. I was hitting a lot of shanks, fat shots and thin shots for a while but I kept calm and kept focusing on the mechanics. I finally figured out the sweet spot in my address and swing and started clobbering the ball 250+ and straight on most of my last 100 balls. It felt amazing hearing and feeling that perfect connection and seeing a straight line and a very high spin rate! Thanks again, you're an incredible instructor!
I am 64 and emulating Moe and Todd's swing will put a smile on your face. I can hit straight now.
Good to hear.
Bud, you and Moe (God rest his sole) have gotten me giddy for golf again…Thank you so much for this, it’s absolutely priceless to me
Todd, I am a 49 year old who shoots anywhere from 77-92, I have struggled with consistency my entire life and am absolutely fascinated by the principles that you teach, and for that matter Moe Norman himself. I am committing myself to adopting the single plane technique. Thank you so much for the unbelievably insightful videos.
Much like me accept need to add another 20 for the age part
Get his book and that foot alignment board. It worked for me.
so, 2 years later?
This is the best advice that I have found on golf on RUclips, very practical and easy to follow
Hi Tom I picked up so much from this video
I'm an 18 handicapper but played to 2 under par for 10 holes today.
Driver was the key long and straight, I use trevino swing my way for the irons but without this lesson I wouksnt have shot 2 under, so rhanks for all the hard work you have put in over the years Steve 👍
I’m 57 and have a couple of disabilities that make the golf swing a little more complicated. I have a partially frozen left shoulder from a previous surgery and some nerve damage in my right arm from a herniated disc I had in my neck for ten years.
I’ve been working with the single plane swing for a few years now and have always struggled with the driver. I still work for a living and don’t get to spend enough time playing and practicing. I practice one day during the week when I get off work and play 36 holes on sundays. I played on the golf channel AM your a couple of years ago in the senior division in the 8-11 handicap group. I managed to win a few tournaments but luckily I hit my driver well those days.
I haven’t played tournaments in a couple of years but recently got the itch to see where my game was. I played a couple of weeks ago and shot an 87. Very disappointed to say the least. I usually play to a 7 handicap on my own course but the driver and putter let me down.
I watch a lot of Todd’s videos on the driver and he makes it look so simple. I feel like I do everything he does but I can’t get consistent. I end up trying different ball positions during a round and that just makes it worse. I hit my irons , hybrid and 4 wd pretty good but the same swing didn’t work for the driver. I signed up as a gold member but I’ve yet to send a video to have it critiqued because of my frozen shoulder and nerve damage issue. I feel like I am just stuck with the problem and just have to live with it. I’m having gall bladder surgery next week so I will be out of golf for a month. I may have one of my buddies video my swing tomorrow and go ahead and see if there’s something graves can do for me. Nothing sweeter than hitting a great drive! Appreciate the videos!
@Todd Graves
I AM SO EXCITED!
Thursday, I found your video on the 1 plane. Went through your RUclipss on the basics especially the driver and the "Pilot's view"
Friday, I swung about 50 balls on the driver only at the range. Ok results, not feeling a lot of love. Later that evening I re-reviewed your RUclips include Reed Howard's take on angling the body and your setup of the driver heel at the ball line. Also took good note of what you said about the grip.
Today, Saturday, on the course, I devoted my whole driver and 3 wood swing to your 1 plane. Played Woodley Lakes, Los Angeles, CA. The front 9 was average even after a disaster 1st tee shot (a weak push) but I was able to save with a Par. I had a hard time feeling & thrusting the driver swing and "letting it go". Especially the 1 plane angle setup, it was totally weird but deep down I know that's the exact plane I make contact (I have video of myself).
Suffice to say, out of the 7 driving holes, only 3 were good UNTIL the 9th hole - then it CLICKED and hit a BOMB on the #1 hole, pretty much getting the ball where I have not been in a long time. #10 I RIPPED just the biggest bomb that carried EVERYTHING hazard & palm trees etc on that dogleg and the rest of the back 9 was SWEET. It was insane. My weakness is still a push or the push/fade but its ripping it out there!
Now, the SOUND is so different at impact. Even my regular golfing buddy said the sound felt like the ball was crushed! I have not heard this sound in a very long time and it brought a smile to my face.
The 18th was the best drive of the day. Cannot hook, it OB and it was crushed center line on the Par 5. A poor 1 plane 3 wood meant the Eagle was out but I had a chance for a bird and misread the putt at 10 feet. I was feeling the swing more and able to release the club and literally feeling like I can power or take off power on the release.
I discovered that YES, this 1 plane swing is very back friendly. My back was feeling less stiff than it usually does. I have a stiff lower back (severe whiplash car accident due to a drunken driver in 2013) so I do not get much motion and it's always stiff. I was a pretty good player (3.5 handicap) back then but been searching for a golf swing that allowed me to use my body as-is and still allow me the power.
I think I have found it.
Shot 72 today with the driver putting me in so many chances for birdies (got 2 birds but offset by 2 bogeys and I left about 3 other birds escape due to the missed putts).
So I am beyond EXCITED. Just wanted to post it - THANK YOU for showing me the power is still there. I am converted but it's going to take a while to convert my iron swing.
Thanks Todd - golf life saver :)
spot on information! last two days been binge watching all your videos and Moe stuff. 63 years old and love playing golf but last year and half have been sidelined with a bad back , specifically a disfunction SI Joint, very painful and not much can be done about it. researched and found your content as a possible swing change to get me playing and practicing like I want to. spent two hours on the range yesterday getting used to the single plane swing. Hit it okay but surprisingly was able to pound balls with little to no back pain. this is a huge deal for me, no back pain after hitting balls for 2 hours! played 18 holes today and stuck with the SPS (single plane swing) whole round. wasn't my best ball striking but wasn't bad, again little to no back pain. definitely going to keep at it to get better with the SPS. so true what you said about the driver. I always tell other golfers to play a round of golf with two balls, first ball played off the tee as normal and play the second ball from middle of the fairway at their average best driver distance and play. keep score of both balls and compare the scores at the end of the round. Hitting drives in the middle of the fairway is the best way to drop 10 or more strokes. hit your drives out of the middle of the club is the best way to gain 10-20 yards!. thanks for sharing.
So true, if I'm driving well, my day is fun no matter what else is going on. Short game is crucial to score but so is not going OB or punching out from trees all day long.
I saw your golf magazine article on the golf swing! Congrats! It was awesome to see you in print! Keep up the great videos here!
Thanks.
At 70, after preferring ‘stack & tilt’ for years, came across your channel and tried Moe’s grip & swing plane with my 52 degree, bingo effortlessly straight. 7 iron same thing, for me it was the grip backswing and follow through just seemed to work better. On course next ... thanks for videos!
Thanks Todd for all your video’s, I think I watched all of them on RUclips. I changed to SPS about 10 months and saved the love for golf. I was frustrated with my golf game I ready to quit golf. Iam still learning everyday. I appreciate your dedication to show everybody about the single flame swing. Thanks
Todd I’ve been working on your swing for over a year and it’s amazing the effortless power once all the parts are in place I’ve had bits and pieces of it which keeps me going and day by day getting very close to having a swing almost swing itself my biggest problem was having the stability in the left knee that impact and I cured that by watching your videos over and over and it finally occurred to me if my right foot stays on the ground that impact like it supposed to there’s no problem with that left knee stability it happens automatically you’re an incredible teacher may be the best in the world someday maybe we can get together
Todd, I've been following your SPS now for about 3 weeks. I am 63 and love the "mechanical ease" Moe's swing has provided to the golfing world. I must say, I never heard of Moe Norman before, but after checking out your website and all these you tube videos, you are slowly making a convert out of me. You see, I have been taking lessons from Golf Tec with my goal to keep the ball in play off the tee....has not happened yet although I am getting better. Golf Tec teaches the conventional way to swing a golf club, but in my opinion, there is too many mechanics and things you have to think about during your swing....for me there is no "mechanical ease" like you see in the SPS.
Following the SPS, I am striking the ball quite well with my irons, but find I am pushing the ball about 10-15 degrees right all the time yet the ball is traveling pretty straight or a slight fade. My driver is doing the same, but the push is a bit worse along with the fade/slice. Your thoughts?
Thanks. I will let you know how it goes.
Absolutely correct! If you are not getting off the tee well, it makes for a miserable day. Another great video.
Great video Todd I started playing “Natural Golf” years ago and it’s probably the only reason I still play because of its simplistic approach.
I"m now hitting almost every fairway at Harbor Park.....I'm 76 and practice almost everyday....thanks Todd :-)
Great to hear. 76! So glad to hear you are having un. Keep it up
@@ToddGravesGolf Thanks......"you can't buy it" :-)
I switched to the single plane swing this year and now hitting 80-90 percent of the fairways instead of the right and off the fairway. Thanks Todd.
You're welcome.
Well said. I agree. I've had days where I could not miss a fairway, shot 88, and was having so much fun.
True.
GREAT video, Todd. Hitting the driver great brings not only a personal good feeling, but often very good comments from playing partners, because it is the one full swing shot that everyone on the tee box witnesses. A great Drive not only sets you up for the next shot, but also brings immediate positive feedback from golfing partners at the beginning of a golf hole. After watching this video, my new goal is to train to help my driver become my favorite club, next the putter and 3rd my wedges, both the scoring clubs. I know I can do this with my new Single Plane Swing and my recent training with Graves Golf Academy.
Graves Golf footboard and your book.
Excellent and saved my back.
Sharp cracking drives.
Great message, Todd! Love the idea of making it a goal to have the driver as the favorite club in our bag. Takes a lot of pressure off - and it's a lot more fun - when this club is our go-to club!
All right Paul, what were you doing up at midnight? Waiting to be the first to post on this? Inside info? Hah :)
Well done as always Todd. I use the Arccos system on my clubs so I am able to track clubs distances, FIRs, GIRs etc automatically. And not surprisingly, When I have 60% or better FIR I shoot in the 70's and when I am 50% or less FIR I shoot in the 80's. So not only is the round more fun from the fairway, scoring is better too!
Great videos as usual. I’ve got so much better with direction and contact with the single plane swing. I bought the training aid for the ball and feet position, helped me tremendously. I just ordered the pocket guide yesterday. My son who is a plus 3 said my swing is so much better than it’s ever been and could hear an see the difference in my contact an direction. The only problem we discovered is, I am still having an issue with my
angle of attack with the driver. I worked for 2 hours on trying to get to a positive number. I did get a couple in the 1 to 1.5 range but mostly -2 to -4 and even a couple -5. I have to work on this because I’m not getting the distance I want, spin to high. Although the drives were GREAT direction . This video explains it pretty well, got to get the positions properly set. My driver can be adjusted from 9 to 12 and I know the positions are more important but my swing speed is in the 90 mph range so is there a loft you would recommend ? Thanks for helping me transform my game. This is the final issue I need to fix. 11 handicap wanting to get to single digit at 68 years old . Your the best Todd thanks for all your content on the web.
Thank you for your post on the driver swing. I'm trying to make it work but what it seems to promote for me, especially with a wider stance, is that it promotes hitting "at the ball" instead of swinging through it. It seems difficult to release the club since my stance is wider and more difficult to turn through to completion. Therefore my results are inconsistent slices and pulls. But I'll keep working on it!
Best lesson yet thanks
Thanks.
Never heard such a true statement as your opening intro to this video.
Impossible to enjoy your round of golf if your not finding fairways.
If you go off our fairways even by a metre you are in serious trouble I will work on these mechanics diligently
Thanks
I just got it in the mail, it will me on the driving range. Thanks Todd
Im trying this Moe single plane swing recently its helping. Just gotta fight my muscle memory on the mechanics. Your vids help alot !
This is an amazing video. Been using your system by just watching your videos Todd. Thanks, i just noticed one thing. With the allignment and ball position trainer, ive noticed in this video that the ball position its more between the DBP and Zone. To be more exact 10mm on the right of the P. i was having trouble putting it on the left of the D. But now it all makes sense and once i put it like i saw here in your video... it works charm ! Great work Todd and thanks again.
My driver has become my favorite club....and I'm having fun :-)
Great video, you are becoming my go to guy in the US for Golf Knowledge. Easy to Understand, Easy to implement, thanks.
Wow great video, wish I saw this before my gold trip to Myrtle Beach. I was hitting my drive all over the place and topping it as well. It was nice to see the different angle from the back and facing so I could see the set up better. My feet were no where near that wide at address. Thanks
Hi Todd
Thought l would give the single plain swing a go after hitting 66 ( age not score!) I am a single figure golfer but even at my age hope l can still improve. What soon became apparent was Moe's transition, which causes a sweet delay in the club leading to a lovely snap at impact, l could only get that 1 in five times no matter what l tried. I think that was his real talent and made it look easy.
Another great lesson! Thanks, coach.
Good stuff. I’ve only been trying this for 3 or 4 rounds and I’m striking the ball so much better. My hideous low hook is all but banished!! This driver vid is welcome though, my irons have been sweet but I don’t think I’ve been getting the driver address quite correct - yet!
Best pep-talk of all time :-)
Thank you Todd , my single plain swing is getting better. Hit the driver well this weekend.....Very excited 🏌️
Keep it up
Just tried the single plane swing and my irons were great. My woods were good as well. But I had trouble
with the driver. I think my stance was not wide enough.
Just got my practice equipment today...anxious to get to the range and give it a try!
Todd, I watched this one more carefully, especially the set up positions and picked up two more concepts you mentioned that I was not doing quite right with the driver and that was the alignment of the club head to your nose and the shaft to your left side pivot point. I also noted your head is slightly tilted right?? I hear you about putting 50% of practise balls using the driver, which for my course, is 14 out of 18 holes which is 77%!!
Driver, fairway woods, hybrids are great with this swing. The sweeping type swings. I am having trouble though with the iron play using it. Mishitting and not compressing ball.
Ball position.
Perfect timing for this Video. You make a great point. Own your drive!
Exactly!
I did review again the instructions. You are so clear and effective Tood ! Thank you
Glad it helped! Thank you.
Absolutely great advice
I love my driver too. Wish I could hit it consistent! Great video
Hi Todd.
Roland 65 from South Africa.
Love you videos.
This one is great.
I'm trying to change to the single plane swing.
Hands position for me so essential as well
Thanks
I like the advice. I play a 6,000 yard course. If I hit 14 drives of 250 yards each that equals 3,500 yards or slightly less than 60% of the course yardage.
I swear I’m a single digit between the tee box and 4 feet from the hole. I can live without being a great putter because that’s just a score(number) but not being able to get off the tee box is taking the fun out of the game for me. I’ve two problems with the driver, keeping my back foot down and trying to kill the ball. Since the driver isn’t a “specific” distance club I just lose any control I have with the rest of the bag. Thanks for the great information Todd!
Hit a jumbo bucket of balls (120) and at least 75% are with my driver. That is why I switched to Moe’s single plain swing under Todd Graves. I was so inconsistent with my driver, now it’s my favourite club
Mine too.
Great content Todd. I watch mostly all of your videos. I’m very interested in learning the single plane swing. I’m tired of taking lessons and walking away an hour later with a sore back and looking like I’ve never hit a golf ball in my life. It’s very frustrating. On May 2, 2020 I weighed 330 pounds and I’m 6’3”. Well I went on a diet plan and I’m now down to 267 and I’m losing more weight. I was hoping to get a better turn on the ball and more distance with the weight loss but it hasn’t materialized. To make a long story short do you know anyone that teaches the single plane swing in the Augusta Georgia and Columbia SC areas? Thank you for everything you’re doing to make us better golfers!
Norman Sykes
Norman, Can you contact me at toddg@gravesgolf.com. I will try to get you connected to an instructor ASAP. Thanks.
Great video. Am I right in thinking that with the right foundation and biomechanics that it might be possible to leave the driver settings in the default positions?
Your thoughts on single length clubs to combine with this swing?? As a weekend golfer I am trying to cut down on variables and feel these two would work well together. I just swapped my older set for Cobra F-Max but they are standard lengths. Then found your channel and now want to really throw myself into this style so may swap them out for the Cobra one length. Thoughts appreciated!!
this swing definitely works and is easier to learn than status quo swings
Absolutely
Love the single plain swing.
Me too!
Thanks for these videos! I've tried the single plane swing a few times, but as I've gotten older (52) I'm finding it's much easier on my back. I also feel like I can swing more aggressively with this swing. My question is about the set up. You talk a lot about tilting the upper body, so that the spine is at an angle away from the target. I'm curious how this affects the weight distribution on the feet. Do you feel more weight on the back foot at address, or do you even that out by shifting the hips forward? Thanks!
Just my two cents here, Robert. I just tried this for the first time today and I loved it. I did feel like my weight was on my back foot about 60% (maybe more) but I just ignored it. I too felt like I could swing way harder but still be in control. With my old swing, I felt like I had to hold back to maintain control. Excited!
I love what you've done for us :-)
Hey Todd! Love the single plane. Recently purchased the alignment trainer. Very helpful! Does an individuals height affect where you place your feet when hitting the driver? Thanks in advance!
Thayer. How tall are you? For people who are 5'7 to 6'3", with the driver- the ball is placed in front of the "P" on the trainer. that places it inside the lead foot. Then your width should be at D/FW. This places the lead shoulder behind the ball for the proper strike.
@@ToddGravesGolf I am 5’6” Thanks for your quick reply!
Shivas Irons in the book "Golf In the Kingdom" called his driver.....my play club :-)
Thanks Todd great advice as always. Have been waiting for some driver advice as I have been tending to slice a bit. Irons are fine. Cheers from Down Under.
Glad to help
Im working on that feeling of greatness great video thank you
Hi Todd, I have 2 questions for you. 1. When you setup are your shoulders pointing down the line or to the right? 2. When swinging your hands and arms, I believe, are soft. At what time during the downswing do you start to feel your arms/hands kicking in? Thanks. I appreciate it. Gerry
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I feel the arms "kicking in" at about waist high in the donwswing.
Not an expert but here is what I think. Feel hands kicking in when pelvis stops turning. Torso is open and shoulders are closed to target line. Todd has a video about this
At setup, why is the club head set a few inches behind the ball?
My driver was off today, it is my favorite club. The last 5 drives i was hitting pop ups. Watching this video i think i know what i was doing wrong. The driving range just opened, i'll hit it tomorrow. Thanks Todd
Why is the club head set a few inches behind the ball at address?
Where do i get on of those ball alignments aids in the UK ? thanks
Hi Todd,
Very timely video for me.
I attended your school 7 or 8 years ago, own most of your videos and training aids. Got down to an 11 from 18 and was pretty happy.
Two years ago I injured myself and couldn't play golf. Through lots of PT and Aleve, I was able to start playing again in April. The short game sucked but I was striping my driver. Golf was fun even though there were more scores over 90 than under.
So, the last few weeks I worked exclusively on the short game. Yesterday I missed every fairway on the front 9. Completely lost my feel with the driver. I wanted to open a vein.
Luckily, I went back to full on concentration on the single plane swing basics on #10. Checked and rechecked grip, ball position, stance width, spine tilt and trail heel (the culprit I believe).
I hit all the fairways except one coming in and shot 41.
If I can't drive the ball, I don't like golf.
Great Todd so distracting hunting for someone else’s ball . Fab video 🤙
agree.
Do you have a video on how to draw of fade the ball around a left or right dogleg? Same question for fading or drawing iron shots.
Another amazing vid. My goal is to get to your school in-person at some point! Are you willing to say what driver and degree you think is best for single plane swing?
Excellent video and instruction; "Become great with the driver!"
Having great results following your lessons. One question. You talk about tee peg height. What should it be? By the way I'm 71 and high handicap.
Half of the ball above the top of the driver.
I'd like to hit my driver more but I have been glued to my 3w because I get 260-270yds without major slice. Hopefully this helps me with my drives. I'm losing distance constantly using 3 wood
sure you do
When I widen my stance with the driver. It lowers my head slightly and I hit the ground behind the golf ball. Any ideas what I’m doing wrong?
awesome loved it great info and video
Glad you enjoyed it
Where to start???? I’ve been playing for about 27 years but over the last 4 years or so, I’ve gotten really serious about getting better and I have. In the beginning of 2021, for whatever reason, I just lost my swing. I tried stack and tilt and it really helped me hit my irons better, but I never figured it out for the driver. I rarely hit it flush and when I did I would only get about 220-230 total (tops) and that was on my best shots. My typical drive was like 200-205. I got so messed up with the driver and stack and tilt that I actually put it away and just hit 3 wood off the tee. To give you an idea, i hit my 5 iron about 195 so to see my driver shots go no where was incredibly frustrating. Anyway, I watched this video today and decided to take my driver to a simulator and just try it. It went really well. I started out by slicing my drives badly, but once I figured out ball position as well width of my stance, I began to crank out 250-260 drives (carry) with my longest being 264. It felt great. At first it was weird to have the club in line with my lead arm, as is prescribed, but I got used to it pretty quickly and it was really good from there. It feels like a much easier way to swing the club hard. The idea of widening your stance to create a limitation is the opposite of what I’ve always learned, but it really does work to quiet things down with the legs. I can still turn, and powerfully, but it allows me to feel more in control. I think I found my swing. I began to use it with my irons with mixed results but i think it’s just a matter of finding the ball position and stance width. I’m excited! Thx Todd!
let me know if I can help. email me at toddg@gravesgolf.com
@@ToddGravesGolf thx Todd. Super excited to ingrain this!
Awesome video, just one question. In trackman, what would be the expected or recommended club path number with the one plane swing?
I don't use a trackman. But next time I have access to one, I will measure it.
@@ToddGravesGolf thank you. Since I've been doing the single plane swing my club path got a bit too much from the inside, +4, making me hit too much draw. Was wondering if that's normal or maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Great video Todd as always. Could you do a video or explain when Moe said I always want the heal leading the toe never toe leading the heal. Did he mean an open club face? Thanks.
Will do
Do you suggest a lower loft with the driver using the one plane swing plane? Toying with a 7 degree driver
Hello Todd. I have the tendency to hit the ground In my downsizing behind the ball. What am I doing wrong?? Thank you
The driver is the only club I practice with at my local range. This is because you are practicing off mats. With the driver off a tee you get as near as you can to a golf course tee box, however with the other clubs off a mat gives you false feedback. You have to practice off grass if possible with the rest the bag. Hope this makes sense Stay safe from lockdown England.
Hey Todd, not sure if this will reach you but figured I’d try. So recently, I’ve been hitting duck hooks with my driver lately the past 5 outings and don’t know what’s going on. I have been implementing your teachings for a while now and out of nowhere I’ve been hooking like crazy, I normally fade and not sure what to do. I’ve watched other videos to fix it but doesn’t seem to work well for single plane golf swings. Any tips or suggestions, anything would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
You must fix your lead hand position. Make sure the back of the lead hand is parallel to target and parallel to club face.
@@ToddGravesGolf Thank you so much, thought I have been doing that but I guess not. I will try it out on the range tomorrow and keep you posted!
Why does the ABT look like the driver is setup slightly closed? I haven’t heard you talk about this in your videos. Thanks
Yes. The radius of the stance should have the driver closed..slightly.
How do you figure out the correct amount of angle to bend your body at address? In other words, how far do I need to lean forward at address?
Pretty high shot Todd but always straight love that.... is that 10.5 degree if I went back further with right foot wouldn't it make it more like 12 degrees?
I noticed Moe sometimes had the ball opposite his left foot or slightly in front of his left foot. I noticed he addressed the ball behind the ball with the heel of the driver. Was this to square the clubface at impact and stop hitting a fade or slice ? Thank you
How does one aim ?. I have been trying conventional golf ( aiming with the feet and or the club face) and I'm all over the show. So idecided to try the single plain and it does work but I'm still all over. I do use an alignment stick or club but i struggle to get let say five straight to the target. Any advice please. Blessings Morné
Thank You
Great video
Thanks!
yahoo finally - excellent video and detailed explanation- thanks Todd !!
Glad to help!
Todd I was wondering how far do you carry the ball on your best drive
my best carries about 285.
The guys I play with call me the Arborist. I can hit great shots under the trees but it totally screws me and my score, the driver is a big deal. I’ve decided to call you the Mechanic your spot on with your teachings. I’m sixty seven years old and who says you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Maybe the guys will start calling me Mr. Fairway in the future with this swing. As always thanks, be safe!
How can I buy your books from oversea
Can à 80 old use this method. ? Thanks
Of course. My average student is over 65 years old. You should do great.
Todd I hit my driver dead solid straight. Middle of the fairway. NOWHERE. Do you have a power video? I’m strong and healthy, no limitations
Coming soon
Thanks Todd! This proper set up helps a lot.
i must say after trying the SPS for 78 holes and missing only ONE fairway, it has changed me completely! I keep trying to get my golf mates to at least try it, but they're too mule headed to try it, even after i keep hitting balls straight down the course!
Next week, I'm re-shafting my putter for an extra 3-4 inches. Thanks Todd for the wonderful instructions!
You are very welcome.