Todd, what great content. I took lessons in Chicago years ago and didn't get as much relatable take away as I have from your channel. Dechambeau has really given your single plane philosophy relevance to the broarder golf community. I cannot believe how much great instruction you have packed into this video. Great work. Keep it up and best to Tim. You brought me back brother.
Todd - I’ve enjoyed your schools...read your book cover to cover multiple times...learned so much sending videos into your teaching program ( which is a game-changer )...but have learned more of how to play golf... watching these videos where you take us on course...than anything you have produced this far. Thank you for sharing your insights and knowledge.
Todd, that was an outstanding lesson featuring both demonstration and explanation. Not to mention showing a connection between Moe’s Swing and Bryson’s.
You are the best at expressing yourself and explaining exactly what your feeling and what your thinking about each and every movement before and during a shot.
I love your notion of arm and shoulder tension, which helps robotic/repetitive consistency. I’d even throw in ulnar deviation to help focus that tension at address.
17:01 - Great drive Todd. Steve Stricker was the guy that inadvertently taught me how to "lock it in", which brought me back to Moe's swing! I'm hitting the best shots of life with Moe's swing. Excellent approach shot, perfect - 19:20
Just turned 34 this past September. Last summer is when I really committed to golfing. Best idea I ever made. Boy does this game teach you a lot about life huh? I always went about it with an open mind, and trying everything here on youtube. One thing I've found that is super consistent... using your body the way it was intended to be used. I love the "robot" aspect of it. This summer was a transformation. I had a teacher that golfs with me nightly ask me... what is it that I rely on. I told him I try to be robotic. When I'm doing my preshot, I put my arms out in front of me with club in the air... and make sure I'm swinging the same way when I tilt towards ball. He started doing it... and he started hitting amazing shots. It was utterly AMAZING knowing that I helped someone out by just being more simplistic. Good stuff Todd. Cheers to you and yours from MN
Hi Todd, I've been doing your single plane golf since the 2005 school in Orlando. My golf game is an enjoyable game every game. I'm glad to see that Bryson has brought it to the PGA tour. I'm sure he will have a fantastic career because of the Moe/ Graves technique. Cheers. 👍👍👍
Keep doing on course playing videos. Ignore the small number of naysayers. Learning how to take your range out on the course is exactly what your students and followers want and need. I love these videos. Thanks.
there's a difference between induced tension that's a controlled/wanted thing VS a stress tension that's not controlled. we call that "Antagonism". they are movements and tension that the brain doesn't control. like when you are freezing and shaking because of cold. we can't control that type of stuff because it's a bioreflex from the body. stress can induce that kind of thing. hence why you need to be relaxed in order to put the right tension in your swing. the controlled one.
I’ve been trying so many things. I’m a strong guy and this makes so much sense by “locking in.” Same mindset I have with power lifts or olympic lifting. Tension is always the primary force before the explosive move. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks Todd. I've tried the "relax the hands" thing and with very variable success. So tension it is. Can't wait to get out there and put it into practice.
Tension for sure. I've tried that relaxed hands approach. Kept topping and chunking it. So now I have tension from the takeaway and it works amazing. But not just based on that factor. There are so many. Have a routine. Go for it. And don't over think it. Period.
Robert Dedman, founder of ClubCorp, used to say "The first olive out of the jar is the toughest". What he meant was that pioneers are never accepted by traditionalists who say "We've never done it that way." In my recent and limited knowledge of the Single Plane Swing, I assume Bryson is the first to use it so effectively on the PGA Tour. My question: Given that he was the "first olive", why have no (?) other PGA pros followed his example and become successful by changing to the SPS? Do you anticipate this will happen? btw, did you train Bryson during his conversion?
Thanks for the tension info. Tried it on the range yesterday for another 15-20 yds with the driver. Not as effective with irons for me, but I’m struggling with my single plane irons in general. Sent in for an irons’ club fit this morning. Cheers.
What a treat. A 2016 amateur at the Masters comes into 2020 winning the US Open. What a great golfer and definitely looking forward to seeing him win more in the future. Keep up the great golf Bryson.
Very interestng. For example I found that not setting the rear knee/leg in correct position/tension ended up with body tilt toward the flag (C shape) at the Top of Backswing. Correcting this at setup , corrected the tension and torque of back, down swing and improved the impact position. Robot is totally needed to produced correct execution, at last relaxes the game.
Well Todd I went out and played eighteen today. I shot the worst game of golf in the past twenty years. I hit one good drive today. The good news I hit some nice iron shots, so I’m saying baby steps. I am hitting the range and am going to work on my weakness. I’m not giving up I still believe in your teachings.. play well my friend.
I've watched many of your videos since getting back into the game after a 7+ year absence, and they're very helpful. However, the one thing that seems to work better for me is starting the backswing with my trail hand and slowly taking over with my lead, for me it helps prevent body sway.
This series “on the course” is a perfect supplement to GGA’s masterclasses, webinars, weekly videos & Facebook live sessions. Todd and Tim go the extra to inform, educate, train and support. For those not already members, I strongly recommend joining the Graves Golf Gold Membership program.
My thought on being relaxed and being tense, would be that a conventional golf swing requires you to be relaxed, so that your body is capable of moving with so many variables. Being stiff goes against everything conventional, and relaxing just doesn't work with a single plane swing, I've experienced this personally with the single plane swing, when I'm not tense and taunt I make bad shotsimplementing, but it works peeps.
the thing also is that high handicaps swing loose until the downswing where they get tensed with their arms or hands, and fuck up the whole thing....so this robot is controled tension, and for a high hcp that is the best thing, cause they arent able to swing loose and sincronize well all the parts of the body... overall i think its more natural to the human body to play like this, more simple
Todd you are the best for teaching us these things i am in South🇿🇦 Africa and watch all your single plain teachings and improving my golf wow a real eye opener thanks aTodd.
Tension may be fine for younger golfers but as a senior.....I disagree. I hit way more solid shots when I make sure I have loose wrists and grip. I'm certainly against going into a setup thinking robotic as that will promote tension. Love your passion for the game and enjoy your on course management ideas tho.
Great instruction again. I've started using these strategies when I'm on the driving range (not just mindlessly pounding balls), staying out of the green zone until I'm ready to 'pull the trigger,' walking in and hitting. It takes me twice as long to finish a smaller bucket of balls, but these applications (you teach) have paid off while playing. Excellent stuff and thanks.
@Todd Graves: Just read the book “Vector Putting” and then you will have the answer to your question at 12:20. This is the system that Bryson uses to read greens and it contains all the charts that he uses.
Love watching your videos. Think your the best golf instructor on here. I am a very tall player and the single plane swing has helped me stroke the ball better and it is a nocer fitting motion for tall players. Going to give the robot approach a try on the range tomorrow.
Great video Todd. Certainly changed my thoughts on Bryson and his quest for distance. He remains a little inconsistent but he’s not alone as other tour pros also fall into the same ’inconsistent barrel’
Being inconsistent goes with being human. Every golfer that ever lived was inconsistent. You make it sound as though there are other golfers who are always consistent.
I’m in Michigan taking lessons from a pro that is teaching me the one plane swing. I have two questions: 1. I feel most comfortable interlocking and he’s teaching me baseball grip, and you overlap. Is my comfort most important or what I’m instructed to do? 2. Will the uncomfortable feeling of reaching eventually go away?
Hard me to answer since I do not know what he is teaching you. The hands must coordinate correctly with the wrists. See the video here : ruclips.net/video/u58BnugqBTc/видео.html
15:52 - 100% agree. It really is about strategy. If Bryson knows he can have a great angle and unhindered entrance into the green, then he should bomb it down there. And by contrast, for those that can't or won't bomb it, then fairways is the best strategy. With Moe's single plane swing, I can consistently keep my distance from the ball at address, which translates into very straight shots (I mean no curving at all if I want) and almost always in the fairway. It just makes the game so much easier and a WHOLE LOT OF FUN!!
Bryson's strategy at the 2024 U.S. Open was just what you explained - hit it as far as you can and then deal with the rough from a shorter yardage. His putting didn't hurt either !
Good stuff...of course, you cannot eliminate feel from golf...but a bit more mechanical is a big help on consistency. Plus, the neutral grip has arrived! For hitting on the upswing with the driver...I like the hover...ala Kucher...ala DeChambeau. I like the robot preshot routine....:) Your swing seems a lot like Moe Norman to me.
Can those of us with slower swing speeds implement tension or robot (less active wrist hinge) without sacrificing distance? I completely subscribe to robot, no feel for shots 115 in using longer club and long putter like swing…accuracy & distance control has improved.
Hey Todd I have a friend who suggested I watch you’re videos and I love em my swing is just like it but I need to perfect it and now hopefully you can help me with that feeling confident hitting em straight
12:09 - Bryson notes are new and existing metrics that expand on the already available data set we see the PGA Tour tracking, and metrics of his bio-mechanics, sequence, and feel. For instance, average driver distance can be expanded to include uphill/downhill fairway and landing zone, wind speed, wind direction, width of fairway, width of fairway including rough, type of grass, length of rough, ground temp, air temp, humidity, dew point, beneficial bio-mechanical discoveries made during a given round, contemplations regarding equipment based on other discoveries during the round, and on and on!
Come on not even close...yes set up kinda like but not really when do you see the Moe Tilt or the shoulders turned closed, how about the rotation all the way through to finish is that like Moe ...Trail foot holding down till impact, hardly....How about using the same set up for every club, not Bryson.
Great content. I like the clarification on tension and removing variability. You mentioned Bryson DeChambeau is hovering the club. A fellow golfer recently suggested I might top the ball less if I ground the ball. I noticed you were hovering, grounding, hovering, grounding, robot, hovering, grounding, robot, execution. What is your recommendation on hovering vs grounding. Also, should you address on the heel of the driver or centered on the driver. In another video you showed Mo Norman addressed on the heel with a club, but is the driver address better to be centered?
Was another reason perhaps why Mo addressed with the club back and slightly outside was so he had to take the club back inside, any more outside he will fall over? Every putt is a 3 foot putt.
Hi Todd, i love your videos and im seriously considering giving it a try. But my big concern is my clubs would limit the success, as surely i would have to have them all changed to a more upright lie angle? Is this something you would agree with or should i be ok with my standard lie? Thanks
A lot of his on-course strategy is from what Scott Fawcett teaches. I've done month 1 of DECADE Foundations to supplement my GGA Gold membership but I think what Will Robbins teaches is probably more applicable to the mid-handicap player like myself.
Todd Graves here says you got to “commit” to a shot, then execute. Nicklaus said you need courage - and I think that is part of “committing” to the swing, to be willing to not doubt yourself. Well, if you doubt yourself maybe you need to study your swing more? OR maybe you should step back and think about you swing more so you have the right swing thoughts before you take your stroke. What pisses me off is forgetting my swing mechanics, just not feeling it, and needing to just hit the shot anyway because I cannot hold up my group thinking about my swing longer. This guy knows his swing and so well he can chat while playing.
thank you for this video Can you tell us about the tension in the hands during the swing and the tension in the hands during the grip? thank you christian from france
Just another example of how many ways you can play good golf. Moe Norman was a bit of a one-off and watching you is like watching him. However, my thinking is that if this was 'the way' then everyone would be teaching it. Even Bryson himself said his swing is unusual and works for him upto a point and that when he really goes for it, the swing puts a lot more strain on his body meaning he's more prone to injury, hence why he doesn't 'go for it' all the time, In addition he's been to the gymn and put on a lot of muscle. Cameron Champ has a more conventional swing but with extraordinary hips speed/flexibility and he hits the ball similar distances, but he has done it without the need for all the extra muscle. Fascinating video though.
Is the down swing the same as a two plane swing can you do a you. Tube video on brysons down swing as I’m changing to single plane swing but everything’s going right other than a few that go straight thank you
Todd This is great I’m considering using the method, however, I’m hesitant bc I’m a 3 index now and I don’t see anyone besides Bryson using this on an amateur or pro level Can you explain why, with this method being around so long, so few are adopting it?
I was always taught that tension in the forearms (i sometimes strangle the club, wringing it's neck - 10/10 on the tension scale) prevents / severely inhibits the wrists from hinging correctly. Surely your advice contradicts that? Just asking genuine question as i really want to try your robotic technique and pre-shot routine / set-up. Love your videos. James from Australia.
@@ToddGravesGolf After watching your #GolfGrip & Address Point-of-View of the Single Plane Swing with @Todd Graves video - i get it now. That left arm is rotated, set, solid, ready for impact position and that right arm slides in under a bit softer - but it's still all set, ready to crush that ball. Good stuff
In the book I just bought you show driver a foot behind the ball. Yet in you own address you are much less than that. Why have you not mentioned this in any of your newer videos?
Well. This statement needs context. Muscles relax and contract. that is how they move the joints in your body. When your muscles are Contracted, they have difficulty moving the joints. For example, when your bicep contracts (curl) you are actually relaxing your tricep. when your arm straightens, you are relaxing your bicep and contracting your tricep. The question is - which way to do you want to make your arm move quickly - curl it or straighten it? In the context of the golf swing, there are some muscles that are stabilizing joints (contracted) while others are relaxed. Both things are happening during the golf swing motion.
Just listened to a Golf Channel podcast with Mike Schy, saying that BAD tried the MN swing, but had stiffness/ pain in his lower back, so switched to a more upright swing. I'm finding the same with the lower back stiffness now that I'm trying to MN. Comments?
If you wanted to switch to a one plane swing, would you have to get all your lie angles adjusted? I feel like the toe of the club would dig into the ground with conventional lie angles.
On the subject of one length irons have you ever reviewed the Edel single length irons that was created after Bryson’s original set. Would like your opinion on the performance of these if you could
Guys - wondering I am 5'6" and have a conventional length driver (store bought). Love driver however it was always a little long and now with this new swing I feel myself griping way down. Is there any reason why I should not get club resized or just stick with the new grip position, which is way down on the grip? just curious as I am sure others feel their driver is "long" now
The club aligns with the trail arms (down the line view) and the lead arm (face on view). When I teach this, I call this the two straight lines. It depends on the view that you are looking at the swing.
When I use this swing with my driver, my club head is too closed at impact so I am hooking. I am doing this with my hybrid too. I seem to be ok with my irons, any ideas?
Hey Todd, love the video!! I have a question about your putter. I noticed the shaft placement goes to the back of the putter, which literally puts your hands in "forward press" position. What's the name of the putter and the model used?
Phil Mickelson recently said,"accuracy is irrelevant; I want distance." Same idea as this vid...What brand of putter are you using? I haven't seen it before; is it legal, worldwide? In the news lately was a story about 22K+ counterfeit clubs seized in China! How do you guard against that, at GGA? Almost makes me want to stay with USA made, like Ping, only...Cheers from Bangkok, back to USA in the Spring and will need new LH clubs, for sure...
accuracy matters when you’re not a PGA tour player and don’t spend your life practicing and playing golf for a living where you can train and practice enough to develop swing speeds to overcome the lack of accuracy. But as you age and the average golfer needs accuracy and distance equally. Developing great sex and working towards faster swing speeds, developing your body and all aspects of the game will lead you to more fun and better scores.
Todd, what great content. I took lessons in Chicago years ago and didn't get as much relatable take away as I have from your channel. Dechambeau has really given your single plane philosophy relevance to the broarder golf community. I cannot believe how much great instruction you have packed into this video. Great work. Keep it up and best to Tim. You brought me back brother.
Why is there no one else on this spectacular course?!?
Todd - I’ve enjoyed your schools...read your book cover to cover multiple times...learned so much sending videos into your teaching program ( which is a game-changer )...but have learned more of how to play golf... watching these videos where you take us on course...than anything you have produced this far. Thank you for sharing your insights and knowledge.
Great. You're welcome.
Todd, that was an outstanding lesson featuring both demonstration and explanation. Not to mention showing a connection between Moe’s Swing and Bryson’s.
You are the best at expressing yourself and explaining exactly what your feeling and what your thinking about each and every movement before and during a shot.
I love your notion of arm and shoulder tension, which helps robotic/repetitive consistency. I’d even throw in ulnar deviation to help focus that tension at address.
Good call!
@@ToddGravesGolf I don't even know what that is, but I did have ulnar elbow surgery last May.
17:01 - Great drive Todd. Steve Stricker was the guy that inadvertently taught me how to "lock it in", which brought me back to Moe's swing! I'm hitting the best shots of life with Moe's swing. Excellent approach shot, perfect - 19:20
Hey can you do a "what's in my bag" video sometime? Not for promotional reasons just for those of us curious.
Just turned 34 this past September. Last summer is when I really committed to golfing. Best idea I ever made. Boy does this game teach you a lot about life huh?
I always went about it with an open mind, and trying everything here on youtube. One thing I've found that is super consistent... using your body the way it was intended to be used.
I love the "robot" aspect of it. This summer was a transformation. I had a teacher that golfs with me nightly ask me... what is it that I rely on.
I told him I try to be robotic. When I'm doing my preshot, I put my arms out in front of me with club in the air... and make sure I'm swinging the same way when I tilt towards ball.
He started doing it... and he started hitting amazing shots. It was utterly AMAZING knowing that I helped someone out by just being more simplistic.
Good stuff Todd. Cheers to you and yours from MN
Hi Todd, I've been doing your single plane golf since the 2005 school in Orlando. My golf game is an enjoyable game every game. I'm glad to see that Bryson has brought it to the PGA tour. I'm sure he will have a fantastic career because of the Moe/ Graves technique. Cheers. 👍👍👍
I think what I love the most of this swing is how effortless it looks. I feel like it’s a swing that has a process and I can actually do it.
not sure about you but I’m pretty sure I’ll snap my back doing it.
@@haze1021 Actually, it’s much, much easier on your back.
Keep doing on course playing videos. Ignore the small number of naysayers. Learning how to take your range out on the course is exactly what your students and followers want and need. I love these videos. Thanks.
You explain things SO well, easy to follow ! And you are such a good ball striker!
there's a difference between induced tension that's a controlled/wanted thing VS a stress tension that's not controlled. we call that "Antagonism". they are movements and tension that the brain doesn't control. like when you are freezing and shaking because of cold. we can't control that type of stuff because it's a bioreflex from the body. stress can induce that kind of thing. hence why you need to be relaxed in order to put the right tension in your swing. the controlled one.
Good Points here.
I freeze with my driver. I can practice swing and not early extend but when I go at the ball i early extend and cast the club. So frustrating!
I’ve been trying so many things. I’m a strong guy and this makes so much sense by “locking in.” Same mindset I have with power lifts or olympic lifting. Tension is always the primary force before the explosive move. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks Todd. I've tried the "relax the hands" thing and with very variable success. So tension it is. Can't wait to get out there and put it into practice.
Tension for sure. I've tried that relaxed hands approach. Kept topping and chunking it. So now I have tension from the takeaway and it works amazing. But not just based on that factor. There are so many. Have a routine. Go for it. And don't over think it. Period.
Robert Dedman, founder of ClubCorp, used to say "The first olive out of the jar is the toughest". What he meant was that pioneers are never accepted by traditionalists who say "We've never done it that way." In my recent and limited knowledge of the Single Plane Swing, I assume Bryson is the first to use it so effectively on the PGA Tour. My question: Given that he was the "first olive", why have no (?) other PGA pros followed his example and become successful by changing to the SPS? Do you anticipate this will happen? btw, did you train Bryson during his conversion?
Thanks for the tension info. Tried it on the range yesterday for another 15-20 yds with the driver. Not as effective with irons for me, but I’m struggling with my single plane irons in general. Sent in for an irons’ club fit this morning. Cheers.
What a treat. A 2016 amateur at the Masters comes into 2020 winning the US Open. What a great golfer and definitely looking forward to seeing him win more in the future. Keep up the great golf Bryson.
Agree.
Your teaching can help thousands of golfers save time and money 💰
Very interestng. For example I found that not setting the rear knee/leg in correct position/tension ended up with body tilt toward the flag (C shape) at the Top of Backswing. Correcting this at setup , corrected the tension and torque of back, down swing and improved the impact position. Robot is totally needed to produced correct execution, at last relaxes the game.
Well Todd I went out and played eighteen today. I shot the worst game of golf in the past twenty years. I hit one good drive today. The good news I hit some nice iron shots, so I’m saying baby steps. I am hitting the range and am going to work on my weakness. I’m not giving up I still believe in your teachings.. play well my friend.
I've watched many of your videos since getting back into the game after a 7+ year absence, and they're very helpful. However, the one thing that seems to work better for me is starting the backswing with my trail hand and slowly taking over with my lead, for me it helps prevent body sway.
Cool! Love the robotic “waggle”. Take the feel out of golf. That is really a great tip. When I play well that’s how I feel. Aim-fire. Great stuff.
Fascinating about Tension in the body at address.
You recommend a weekend player having an abrupt take away as opposed to slow and calculated
This series “on the course” is a perfect supplement to GGA’s masterclasses, webinars, weekly videos & Facebook live sessions. Todd and Tim go the extra to inform, educate, train and support. For those not already members, I strongly recommend joining the Graves Golf Gold Membership program.
Thanks Tim.
I live in Oklahoma actually crazy you mentioned it! The single plane swing has changed me forever thanks a lot!
TENSION!!! What I’m going to work on at the range today
My thought on being relaxed and being tense, would be that a conventional golf swing requires you to be relaxed, so that your body is capable of moving with so many variables. Being stiff goes against everything conventional, and relaxing just doesn't work with a single plane swing, I've experienced this personally with the single plane swing, when I'm not tense and taunt I make bad shotsimplementing, but it works peeps.
the thing also is that high handicaps swing loose until the downswing where they get tensed with their arms or hands, and fuck up the whole thing....so this robot is controled tension, and for a high hcp that is the best thing, cause they arent able to swing loose and sincronize well all the parts of the body... overall i think its more natural to the human body to play like this, more simple
Todd you are the best for teaching us these things i am in South🇿🇦 Africa and watch all your single plain teachings and improving my golf wow a real eye opener thanks aTodd.
Tension may be fine for younger golfers but as a senior.....I disagree. I hit way more solid shots when I make sure I have loose wrists and grip. I'm certainly against going into a setup thinking robotic as that will promote tension. Love your passion for the game and enjoy your on course management ideas tho.
Can you do a video on his irons?
Great instruction again. I've started using these strategies when I'm on the driving range (not just mindlessly pounding balls), staying out of the green zone until I'm ready to 'pull the trigger,' walking in and hitting. It takes me twice as long to finish a smaller bucket of balls, but these applications (you teach) have paid off while playing. Excellent stuff and thanks.
Excellent! Love it when there is a purpose behind the practice.
Excellent ideas as well as execution. Very helpful. Thank you.
@Todd Graves:
Just read the book “Vector Putting” and then you will have the answer to your question at 12:20. This is the system that Bryson uses to read greens and it contains all the charts that he uses.
I so agree with the tension thing especially in things like chipping and putting...its all body then, like I'm a machine just moving the big muscles
Love watching your videos. Think your the best golf instructor on here. I am a very tall player and the single plane swing has helped me stroke the ball better and it is a nocer fitting motion for tall players. Going to give the robot approach a try on the range tomorrow.
Thanks. Have fun!
Great video Todd. Certainly changed my thoughts on Bryson and his quest for distance. He remains a little inconsistent but he’s not alone as other tour pros also fall into the same ’inconsistent barrel’
Being inconsistent goes with being human. Every golfer that ever lived was inconsistent. You make it sound as though there are other golfers who are always consistent.
I’m in Michigan taking lessons from a pro that is teaching me the one plane swing. I have two questions: 1. I feel most comfortable interlocking and he’s teaching me baseball grip, and you overlap. Is my comfort most important or what I’m instructed to do? 2. Will the uncomfortable feeling of reaching eventually go away?
Hard me to answer since I do not know what he is teaching you. The hands must coordinate correctly with the wrists. See the video here : ruclips.net/video/u58BnugqBTc/видео.html
Great lesson and demonstration, Todd. That robot simulation with the added tension is a surprise.. I will practice using what you show.
Good to hear.
15:52 - 100% agree. It really is about strategy. If Bryson knows he can have a great angle and unhindered entrance into the green, then he should bomb it down there. And by contrast, for those that can't or won't bomb it, then fairways is the best strategy. With Moe's single plane swing, I can consistently keep my distance from the ball at address, which translates into very straight shots (I mean no curving at all if I want) and almost always in the fairway. It just makes the game so much easier and a WHOLE LOT OF FUN!!
Bryson's strategy at the 2024 U.S. Open was just what you explained - hit it as far as you can and then deal with the rough from a shorter yardage. His putting didn't hurt either !
Great series, loved all the vids, has helped massively when I am on the course
Great to hear it.
What's the name of the series?
This is what I love about it.... This what help me lowering my scores.... Thank you I love it
Great to hear!
@@ToddGravesGolf Todd. First putt.. Every putt's a three footer
Thank you
Good stuff...of course, you cannot eliminate feel from golf...but a bit more mechanical is a big help on consistency. Plus, the neutral grip has arrived! For hitting on the upswing with the driver...I like the hover...ala Kucher...ala DeChambeau. I like the robot preshot routine....:) Your swing seems a lot like Moe Norman to me.
Can those of us with slower swing speeds implement tension or robot (less active wrist hinge) without sacrificing distance? I completely subscribe to robot, no feel for shots 115 in using longer club and long putter like swing…accuracy & distance control has improved.
Great explanation of tension. I noticed, however, when you hit your iron shots you did not do the same "robot" thing. should there be a difference?
Hey Todd I have a friend who suggested I watch you’re videos and I love em my swing is just like it but I need to perfect it and now hopefully you can help me with that feeling confident hitting em straight
12:09 - Bryson notes are new and existing metrics that expand on the already available data set we see the PGA Tour tracking, and metrics of his bio-mechanics, sequence, and feel. For instance, average driver distance can be expanded to include uphill/downhill fairway and landing zone, wind speed, wind direction, width of fairway, width of fairway including rough, type of grass, length of rough, ground temp, air temp, humidity, dew point, beneficial bio-mechanical discoveries made during a given round, contemplations regarding equipment based on other discoveries during the round, and on and on!
that is a lot of noise in one's head. but Good noise!
Can you go over Bryson's driver swing and how it is single plane? Thanks
He has videos explaining it including an introduction video
Todd after 20 years with you it is great to see you have a model on a tour to use as a Moe model.
Come on not even close...yes set up kinda like but not really when do you see the Moe Tilt or the shoulders turned closed, how about the rotation all the way through to finish is that like Moe ...Trail foot holding down till impact, hardly....How about using the same set up for every club, not Bryson.
Great content. I like the clarification on tension and removing variability. You mentioned Bryson DeChambeau is hovering the club. A fellow golfer recently suggested I might top the ball less if I ground the ball. I noticed you were hovering, grounding, hovering, grounding, robot, hovering, grounding, robot, execution. What is your recommendation on hovering vs grounding. Also, should you address on the heel of the driver or centered on the driver. In another video you showed Mo Norman addressed on the heel with a club, but is the driver address better to be centered?
Was another reason perhaps why Mo addressed with the club back and slightly outside was so he had to take the club back inside, any more outside he will fall over?
Every putt is a 3 foot putt.
Some truth to that statement.
Hi Todd, i love your videos and im seriously considering giving it a try. But my big concern is my clubs would limit the success, as surely i would have to have them all changed to a more upright lie angle? Is this something you would agree with or should i be ok with my standard lie? Thanks
Hello, is there a certain standard of adjusting irons up when using this golf swing? How many degrees up is normal?
A lot of his on-course strategy is from what Scott Fawcett teaches. I've done month 1 of DECADE Foundations to supplement my GGA Gold membership but I think what Will Robbins teaches is probably more applicable to the mid-handicap player like myself.
Todd Graves here says you got to “commit” to a shot, then execute. Nicklaus said you need courage - and I think that is part of “committing” to the swing, to be willing to not doubt yourself. Well, if you doubt yourself maybe you need to study your swing more? OR maybe you should step back and think about you swing more so you have the right swing thoughts before you take your stroke. What pisses me off is forgetting my swing mechanics, just not feeling it, and needing to just hit the shot anyway because I cannot hold up my group thinking about my swing longer. This guy knows his swing and so well he can chat while playing.
thank you for this video
Can you tell us about the tension in the hands during the swing and the tension in the hands during the grip?
thank you
christian from france
Really enjoy the on course videos Todd.Thank you!
Glad you like them!
Just another example of how many ways you can play good golf. Moe Norman was a bit of a one-off and watching you is like watching him. However, my thinking is that if this was 'the way' then everyone would be teaching it. Even Bryson himself said his swing is unusual and works for him upto a point and that when he really goes for it, the swing puts a lot more strain on his body meaning he's more prone to injury, hence why he doesn't 'go for it' all the time, In addition he's been to the gymn and put on a lot of muscle. Cameron Champ has a more conventional swing but with extraordinary hips speed/flexibility and he hits the ball similar distances, but he has done it without the need for all the extra muscle. Fascinating video though.
Is the down swing the same as a two plane swing can you do a you. Tube video on brysons down swing as I’m changing to single plane swing but everything’s going right other than a few that go straight thank you
How do you position your feet for uphill/downhill and below feet/above feet for a single plane swing?
Excellent video! Thank you so much!
Sure. Anytime.
Todd
This is great
I’m considering using the method, however, I’m hesitant bc I’m a 3 index now and I don’t see anyone besides Bryson using this on an amateur or pro level
Can you explain why, with this method being around so long, so few are adopting it?
Once again another great video. Well explained and executed.👌
Thanks again!
Have you ever read Bob Prichards book on the single plane? It's quite something you should check it out.
Saw the new youtube ad, very nice!!
Glad you like it!
If something lets you play better golf then yes do it. In my mind the poetry of Bobby Jones is what brought me to golf.
What is the part you use?
I was always taught that tension in the forearms (i sometimes strangle the club, wringing it's neck - 10/10 on the tension scale) prevents / severely inhibits the wrists from hinging correctly. Surely your advice contradicts that? Just asking genuine question as i really want to try your robotic technique and pre-shot routine / set-up. Love your videos. James from Australia.
Tension in the right places. I call it being engaged rather than relaxed.
@@ToddGravesGolf After watching your #GolfGrip & Address Point-of-View of the Single Plane Swing with @Todd Graves video - i get it now. That left arm is rotated, set, solid, ready for impact position and that right arm slides in under a bit softer - but it's still all set, ready to crush that ball. Good stuff
This is really helping
Great stuff. Makes a lot of sense.
Thanks.
Would pressing the elbows together a bit aid in creating tension in the swing?
I don't dont recommend that.
Love the golf course.
Thanks.
Interresting you use the robot technique 👍😄
In the book I just bought you show driver a foot behind the ball. Yet in you own address you are much less than that. Why have you not mentioned this in any of your newer videos?
Relaxed muscles are faster than tight muscles, right or wrong ? I was thought that for donkeys
Well. This statement needs context. Muscles relax and contract. that is how they move the joints in your body. When your muscles are Contracted, they have difficulty moving the joints. For example, when your bicep contracts (curl) you are actually relaxing your tricep. when your arm straightens, you are relaxing your bicep and contracting your tricep. The question is - which way to do you want to make your arm move quickly - curl it or straighten it? In the context of the golf swing, there are some muscles that are stabilizing joints (contracted) while others are relaxed. Both things are happening during the golf swing motion.
Just listened to a Golf Channel podcast with Mike Schy, saying that BAD tried the MN swing, but had stiffness/ pain in his lower back, so switched to a more upright swing. I'm finding the same with the lower back stiffness now that I'm trying to MN. Comments?
I think Bryson should have called me. He obviously wasn't doing it correctly.
If you wanted to switch to a one plane swing, would you have to get all your lie angles adjusted? I feel like the toe of the club would dig into the ground with conventional lie angles.
Yes. You need properly fit clubs
Wh what kind of putter is that
Yes, love the design and how the shaft is mounted on the back of the putter head.
BioMech Golf
On the subject of one length irons have you ever reviewed the Edel single length irons that was created after Bryson’s original set. Would like your opinion on the performance of these if you could
where in OK are you at Todd? I am from Australia, just came across your videos - wow single plan swing, i did not know such thing exist!
Edmond, Oklahoma.
Guys - wondering I am 5'6" and have a conventional length driver (store bought). Love driver however it was always a little long and now with this new swing I feel myself griping way down. Is there any reason why I should not get club resized or just stick with the new grip position, which is way down on the grip? just curious as I am sure others feel their driver is "long" now
@Todd Graves what do you think of his Single length irons and jumbo grips? How does that help him be consistent?
Im ok with both if you have the swing speed for single length irons. I believe that grip size can get too big however.
Which arm is one plane with the club both views show diff arms ?
The club aligns with the trail arms (down the line view) and the lead arm (face on view). When I teach this, I call this the two straight lines. It depends on the view that you are looking at the swing.
Todd, I’ve been watching your videos but curious is you rotate the club face open on the back swing or you naturally do it by turning your body ?
The body rotates the lead arm. Thats all.
Brilliant!!
When I use this swing with my driver, my club head is too closed at impact so I am hooking. I am doing this with my hybrid too. I seem to be ok with my irons, any ideas?
Shorten your clubs or step back away from the ball.
@@blacklionengineer3274 exactly I bet if you took a step back you'd see it draw
U R awesome my man! Thank you much!👍🏻👍🏻w as y up…
Would love to see your grip ?
I'm going to try the tension at address when I go to the driving range today. Gonna practice me some Robotics!
Yes.
What intitutive vid awesome brilliant 🏌️♂️
Thank you.
Hey Todd, love the video!! I have a question about your putter. I noticed the shaft placement goes to the back of the putter, which literally puts your hands in "forward press" position. What's the name of the putter and the model used?
BioMech ace putter.
What putter are you using ? Because of your arm lock style how far is the shaft leaning ? Thanks.
BioMech.
So, being closer to the green is better?
shorter shots into the green - make it easier to score.
Hey Todd is it true Moe help Ben Hogan with his swing? Don F from Philadelphia
Phil Mickelson recently said,"accuracy is irrelevant; I want distance." Same idea as this vid...What brand of putter are you using? I haven't seen it before; is it legal, worldwide? In the news lately was a story about 22K+ counterfeit clubs seized in China! How do you guard against that, at GGA? Almost makes me want to stay with USA made, like Ping, only...Cheers from Bangkok, back to USA in the Spring and will need new LH clubs, for sure...
This is the BioMech Putter. It is legal.
accuracy matters when you’re not a PGA tour player and don’t spend your life practicing and playing golf for a living where you can train and practice enough to develop swing speeds to overcome the lack of accuracy. But as you age and the average golfer needs accuracy and distance equally. Developing great sex and working towards faster swing speeds, developing your body and all aspects of the game will lead you to more fun and better scores.
I live in anderson sc where can I find a single plain Coach
Love it!! 🏌️⛳️