This series deserves better why FNAF fanbase get to experience a fantastic 10th anniversary when Taoru are they telling me that they care about FNAF more than Taoru it's not fair 😢 Maybe kamachi will have to reboot the series or something i don't know 😢
I feel betrayed with this year. We were supposed to be given something very grand, and instead IF got shut down. I know Index IV is (maybe) a lot to ask for. But any adaptation? Anything? Astral Buddy? Dark Matter? I would take Railgun too, even if I am more interested in seeing something else, for fresh perspective. Where is the promised surprise? Come on, 20th anniversary year doesn't come around just like that. I suppose next is 25th. I don't want to wait that long though, come on, this franchise is so intricate and wonderful, it needs to get love it deserves!
Like they said announcements would be scattered across the year but did we get ANYTHING? Like anything at all besides the standard GT releases thats already to be expected? The gacha was shut down and thats it.
It’s pretty unfortunate to see this happen to Toaru. Especially for being a behemoth in the light novel industry. There is endless content to adapt but I’ve given up hope and only look forward to new volume releases nowadays. It’s pretty sad to see IF going away because being able to see many NT characters get voiced and animated genuinely made me overjoyed, and felt like a glimpse of what a NT anime could be like. I can’t imagine this is because of low demand or them not having the resources especially with how large it is in East Asia but alas we can only hope for a brighter future and keep reading GT 😔
It really is unfortunate(pun intended) that Toarus 20th Anniversary turned out to be so disappointing and underwhelming, and IF shutting down certainly didn’t help. Like genuinely, how does one of the most best selling LN of all time get so little?
Bro is carrying the entire Toaru fanbase and on his back 😭, I also feel quite displeased about this too tbh. Fan of index and yet index get treated like this.
It's crazy that a franchise this big is getting this treatment. But well, i guess Kadokawa is very confortable with how toaru is right now, that they don't care about what toaru could become. It's more important for them to chase new possible hits, and greenlight a lot of mediocre adptations the new overpowered action harem isekai that has Kirito as the protagonis. Maybe if Sony buys them, maybe, things will change. Maybe i higher up will look at the company historic and see "hey, that thing here used to sold really well, why we don't make anything about it anymore?". I hope for the day Index anime receives a reboot. I think that a good reboot would attract a lot more people in the series, even in Japan (since it's been a long time since the first adaptations we're made, there certainly is a huge anime/manga/LN fanbase that has grow "unaware" of the toaru franchise).
If Sony buys Kadokawa they’re going to screw up future seasons of Rezero. The only reason s3 has been so good is because the eps are longer, the first ep was movie length and they delayed releasing it for a year to make the animation really good. Sony would ruin that.
@@Sleepystumparknights This, as well as Toaru. But it's my understanding that, unfortunately, Sony getting them is extremely likely, barring a miracle, as Kadokawa were the ones to ask.
@@PutraRhm i don't support sony, i just said that maybe this change in direction, can change things for the franchise. I also didn't talk about harem as something bad. I talked about the whole "Overpowered Kirito in another world" trope.
I mean for LN being made into anime, look at 86 you can tell the staff really CARE about the source material, and that ending was a chef's kiss, absolute PEAK fiction
All it took for Index Season 3 to destroy everything. It's the catalyst of all. Railgun Season 3 can't even save the franchise. It did help but it's temporarily for the casual since it is another season of Anime to watch on the list. Gacha & Pachinko is just milking the poor remaining loyal fans. It's not promoting new fans getting into the series. If Index Season 3 is done right, the casual content creators will be discussing the series. There will be more cosplayers promoting the series. There will be more fanarts. People will buy more figurines. DVD/Blu-ray would sell well. Gacha games will still go on. We don't have to resort to making money from Pachinko. Now, the light novel content creators are helping to keep the franchise alive for the Western audience. I don't see manga being discussed well. Obviously, Aeon of Horus also takes part in keeping the franchise alive for the Western audience.
I feel your pain man, I'm also super worried about the direction things might take if Sony buys out Kadokawa, maybe it won't affect Toaru much but I can only hope so...
The 20th Anniversary has been rough so far, especially with the blow of IF dying....I'm not sure if Kadokawa getting badly hacked early this year has delayed any projects (if any have been planned) back a bit. To tell the truth, the thing I want the most is a new Index anime whether that be NT or even an OT remake....On the more positive side, we still have this month and up till April 2025 to get something announced! We also had that strange Tweet that said a NT anime is in talks, whether or not that leaker is legit or is playing a cruel joke reminds to be seen. I'm still hopeful we might get something announced soon but even then, this has even exceeded my worst-case scenario.
It’s sad to see, I mean I gave Toaru a try this September with the index anime and I’m currently on nt7, I just hope Toaru makes a massive comeback next year
I've been waiting for Season 4 of Index since 2017. Then, they released Season 3 of Railgun almost two years ago. We should have an Index Season 4 by now, especially this year, but no. I would be surprised if they announced they are making Season 4 of Index
The only way for Toaru to be saved is if they make a proper adaptation like they did with The Eminence in Shadow made by Studio Nexus (Kadokawa has his favorites XD)
Dengeki did plan for the accelerator spin off to get massive attention coming off of Index iii. But we all saw how well that went. Same with dark matter and how hyped he was in Index III. Same with mental out launching shortly after Railgun T. But I don't hear anyone talking about it. Dengeki made multiple attempts to grow the franchise but made massive mistakes at multiple steps of their plans. They're likely at a stage where they are reevaluating the direction of the franchise. At least Anbu no ITEM is doing things right for once. That has potential to grow, but I doubt it was made to last.
In the next story arc, I'd like to see misaka try to create her own phase/belief system that uses the esper's personal reality as idols. For example since misaka uses lightning then she could use it as a symbol to link heaven and earth thus welding both wind and earth magic. I got this idea because I think that I once heard that in a lightning storm the lightning actually strikes in the middle because one half of the electrons travel from the sky down, and the other from the earth up (again, I could be wrong). I can see Misaka wanting to compete with magic because of how helpless and powerless she felt in recent volumes. With the existence of angels, majin, and majin like mages (last two are practically level 6), it would be reasonable for misaka to look for an edge. Not to mention there's a lot of level zeros and ones esper's who felt cheated by the program, or hit a wall, so it's not like she would be short on support if that's what it takes to create a phase, by spreading the message or fleshing out the belief system (I don't know if notoriety is mandatory for making a phase without majin level magic).
Despite all the doom and gloom, the toaru fanfiction community is still thriving, lots of good stuff is being written over on the SpaceBattles creative writing forums, with A Certain Interdimensional Civics Teacher (my favourite) hitting 180 chapters and a bunch of high quality Kuroko, OC, and Misaka Clone self-inserts. I've had lots of fun scrolling through all the garbage out there to find the underrated gems to scratch that 'dark side of academy city' itch
4:38 last I heard Unlimited Blade Works is going to air on US TV for the first time. An NT anime could be announced tomorrow and Toonami would still never air Index 😫
to be fair Fate(Typemoon) is the money machine of aniplex and they are giving it special treatment over others and their US staff have started to become more influential in the states, getting more contacts and expanding their reach. there are so mamy things in favor of fate with the expansion of aniplex and typemoon(specially in games, a new area for aniplex publishing the VNs and collaboratin with Koei tecmo for samurai remnant
Honestly, this is why I don't try to hope for things if I notice there's little to begin with, so I won't be as hurt when nothing or something bad happens. I will just enjoy the LNs manga and whatever comes out for the series, but it was clear to me that Toaru, for whatever reason, is an afterthought to the company. From what I've seen, companies, even when they clearly make stupid decisions that cost them money (only up till a certain point in most cases), usually don't budge unless they are literally forced to or the people at the top change.
who knows, maybe they have been making it behind the seems all this time, and in the next year or two and they will release NT and then end up releasing each season 1 to 2 years apart from each other. Hopeful thinking I'm sure. But let's all hope. Other than that at least we a probably guaranteed to get New Testament in manga at some point. PS: I have a lot of anime only watcher friends, and seen a ton of anime only watchers who loved Season 3. And the Accelerator anime. Through I still say they should make an original season 2 of that and scrap the Full Corse Arc if they decided to make a 2nd season of that.
What worries me also is how Sony is planning to buy Kadokawa, cause that will shift their priorities. Whether Index 4 is part of that shift or not is beyond us. Considering how ignored/dormant the IP has been, it scares me that the series might not get a chance to have a 4th season of the anime, even if the books are doing well.
Also shoutout to all those unique fanarts & artists we seen across the media that can literally make a cool moment from the novels possible. Hell they can literally make their own animations that do better than what most scenes in the anime can't do. I really want to see the Toaru franchise spread across the media like it did 2019 & 2020, I want to see the magical and scientific franchises to rise up against average isekai slop 🙏🥹
I would love if the light novels got audiobooks like other light novels Realisticly they would want more people watching it than just the fans and i cant see new people aside from a few showing instrest if they are told they'd have to watch 3 2cour seasons to catch up. As for mikoto and railgun making sales i see that as the same as something like highschool dxd - the merch for dxd so well but they have yet to do a season 5 despite the great merch sales
I'm more a Railgun/AB/MO/Item fan than Index fan, but even I think it's disgraceful that there's been nothing to celebrate the 20TH ANNIVERSARY of the main series. Like dude, are you serious right now???
You are so right. Toaru franchise deserves better. If they continue to make new episodes, I will continue to buy (have all the Blu releases so far). Really like the characters and they deserve better.
I feel your pain all to well. I am a huge fan of the Toaru Universe and fully enjoy what little anime we have of the different parts of the stories. I am greatly disappointed though considering the anime side of the table. When I look at all the anime that has been created that has any real value to it other then brain rot I find myself dumbfounded. Sure, everyone has there likes and dislikes, but this goes well beyond that. It actually feels like they are actively punishing and ignoring the fans of Toaru universe. I won't list off all the anime that has been made that made next to no money, or anime that is seriously perverted and leaves you thinking there are some people out there with some really "interesting" fetishes or takes on what is good or worth watching but seriously... why are we getting ignored or left out in the cold. Rant mode off, I agree with you whole heartedly Aeon. I shall stay hopeful for the future, that we will get what we want hopefully. Till then, I am happy to have a this channel that keeps me entertained, up to date, and reasonably educated on all things in the Toaru Universe.
From what I've been told. The anime and manga is made to sell merch and the novel. The novel is so popular in Japan though that it doesn't need an anime or manga to boost sales, and merch is popular enough from the novel; so there is little incentive to continue as anime and manga are like selling your console for cheap to make up for the price on selling the games at a higher price. Though if everyone is buying the games already with or without a console then there isn't much of a point to make something that loses you money.
Despite of the IP's age and the fact it didn't have an anime release in years it still moves merch. That says a lot. But the longer they wait the more the IP will go in obscurity in the general mind. Unfortunately cool IP's don't always get the attention they deserve. Titanfall 10 year anniversary this was a dissapointment as well.
I mean, the franchise is out for 20 years already, it's already freaking impressive, the fact that we get some news and some new content IS fine. There's like, so much new stuff happening around with so many anime, games and manages jumping out of nowhere that it's not actually that easy to even keep afloat. Pray, support and hope
Just relax everyone, all these years without anime can only mean one thing: they are cooking up some of the sickest animations we have ever seen in anime!
No, Kamachi deserved better. Heavy Object and a lot more Kamachi novels got it far worse and I think the failure of that anime must have hit Kamachi's motivation as a writer because he just wasn't the same after that. As a reminder, just cuz of some bad PR, all the Toaru fanbase was against the HO anime and pretty much destroyed the chances of any other novel series Kamachi was writing to ever get an anime adaptation, and the game he was writing for also got cancelled. Put yourself in his shoes for 2 seconds; that must have been extremely disappointing. And sure enough a few years after the streak of insanely creative original novels series Kamachi used to write all at once (on top of continuing Index) all of them ended and he's clearly writing much less stuff overall these days, it's like he's the doing the bare minimum while focusing on Index. I honestly think, if the fanbase didn't act like children that one time Kamachi would have been taken more seriously by Dengeki by now, and there would have been more hype and more budget given to Kamachi's stuff, he would have gotten more of his series animated while growing the hype for ToAru which would have gotten bigger and bigger, just like how Nasu w/ Fate and other successful writers always have multiple series going on to create a feedback loop and grow the fanbase and popularity, Kamachi could have enjoyed that. It's such a shame.
Never thought about that, its very unfortunate Im happy hes still giving a shot to writing other novels on top of index and spinoffs, failing witch seem to be fun to read so far in the 3 volumes
It would have been a different story if HO anime was good tho, those who did check it out in the west dropped it around episode 4. I would welcome a Blood Sign anime adaptation or something else if done well. So really it is whoever adapts Kamachi's series who let him down, so I do feel sorry for him.
And on the topic of fate/nasu, Nasu also had early anime adaptations of his work that weren't particularly well received by hardcore fans (Studio Deen, and JC Staff's Tsukihime), and still helped get people into his stories with it eventually leading to Fate adaptations which fans liked. So just cos the fanbase doesnt like an anime adaptation doesn't mean they destroyed chances of future ones, it might just be a JC Staff problem.
Are there any numbers on how Index 3 performed? I suspect it did super bad because it frankly WAS super bad. And studios don't care at all about story or creativity. They care about $$$ and nothing else. Some executive who probably hasn't even read the source material probably made the choice.
you know i feel like it would be way better at this point to have a community funded project were some of the best animators and such of the toaru community come together and just make a animated manga series of well everything toaru has manga wise so far. i dont read manga or books in general much anymore but i have found myself looking at tons of recap series nowadays [modern day version of a book perhaps in my eyes? idk] but id definitely watch a animated manga toaru video series. as for S.E id honestly say ranting about them isnt going to get you anywhere they arent your friends and as a just cause fan our series is also left up in the air as well as ive said before i think in a past video toaru really just needs huge possibly fornite-esque [like huge events happening] open world game multiple playable characters ect ect.
Miki eventually caved in when fans were complaining to him online and irl about there being no Index III. If no one says anything then nothing will change.
@@AeonofHorus i mean although im not as hating or whatever anime index 3 as you are. [i enjoyed it tbh but im pretty sure what i got from alot of people is it skipped out on aton of content right?]. but if you yell to the skys and force someone to yk work on something it might end up like index III like imagine they make a NT anime finally and then it comes out and finishs like index III.
@@Helix142 Index III is enjoyable, but it being enjoyable doesn't make it good. to put it into perspective: season 1 of Index was 24 episodes and covered 6 LN volumes, while Index III was 26 episodes and covered a whopping 9 volumes. They rushed through the pre-WW3 arcs and skimmed over details making it confusing for viewers who didnt know the context. its not about forcing people to make it, as customers we have the right to complain about products we consume so that the company can make a better newer product. Feedback is super important, and doesnt have to be toxic. Being annoyed or disappointed is a normal emotion.
@@AeonofHorus well yeah i can understand that it would of been nice if index III was made longer or well index in general got more seasons to cover all that stuff. but i feel like you came into this with to high of expectations tbh not every anniversary will be something huge like valve did for half life 2. SHOULD OF something big happened? yeah sure. but it didnt inless its going to happen like at new years which also would be a great time to announce/release something huge.
As someone going to Japan this holiday season and for new years I’m going to be hunting for Index merch. I need to keep hope alive, yeah it’s cope but still I love this series….
Considering that the franchise is 20 years old it's surprising that stuff about it is still being translated with the yenpress releases of NT and the goat himself making the manga for OT. Both of these will take years to finish translating but we at least have some content. Look at Shakugan no shana fans. They can't even read the original novel because it never got translated. (Yes I am on copium while writing this)
This series desperately deserves a tactical RPG series that is outside of what's going on in the main series. The universe is big enough for stories outside of rhe main series.
I just wanted to share I am going day after tomorrow to the fantasy convention in the capitol city cosplaying Accelerator. I don't care if this franchise continues or not. I mean yes, it would be gravely sad if they stop giving the fans new content, but I will be grateful for the possibility to rewatch Index four times, Accelerator anime 4 and Railgun two. The characters are amazing and the story is mindblowing. This franchise changed my life for better and I will never regret falling for series (and Accel redemption Arc)
Does J.C Staff not realise how successful an NT anime could be? The fandom is super hyped about it, the Light Novel of this arc is super successful and a Toaru anime comeback would make so much money if we‘re being honest. Not only would it bring old fans back, if they do decently on the animation or, god forbid, give it the Railgun T treatment, they could get so many new people into it. It‘s so sad because Toaru is really an amazing world but it’s tiring to wait for so long for new (anime) content. But honestly it feels like JC staff generally doesn’t really care about the animes they make…
Whether they realize that or not doesn't matter when they're low position on the production committee. The decision mainly depends on Kadokawa, NBC Universal Japan, Square Enix...
In my opinion they should make more Animes because i like to see more of my favourites scenes from the light novels even if its 13 ep like Accelerator. This series needs more love and care
Fate is getting a COLLAB with fkcjng HONKAAAAI STAAARRRAAAAIL bro like how is eminence in shadow and this peak not collabing with real actually popular non jp only gachas
even if they just kept milking railgun anime and finished as much of the story for it as they could i'd be happy... maybe item will get adapted once it finishes... i've lost hope lol
I’m not really upset that we didn’t get a new season of anything, (disappointed though) but I am upset that we didn’t even get something like a 20th anniversary collector’s item, for example one of those books where they interview everyone involved in the franchise up to that point and give a preview of a new spinoff or something
The Toaru Universe is the only anime that pulled me into it universe so powerfully. Every thing is great and the character is so diverse and fun to know.
This series have endless potentials there's so many they can do Anime adaptations manga adaptations game adaptations or many other spinoffs hell make an another Accelerator spinoff the first one was ass so give him the True spinoff he deserves there's so many potentials for this series that kamachi and the ones with him don't notice if I'm the one who own this series i would've made all these by now
I was actually complaining about Fate’s 20th anniversary too but compare to the Toaru franchise going two decades without nothing I feel sympathy for you guys and I’m the casual fan and like Toaru too! So I feel sad the franchise isn’t getting nothing
Honestly, the anime would have been way better if Kadokawa and JC Staff agreed on working over 5 seasons for the Old Testament. Like- 1 Season=24 episodes (OT1-OT5) 2 Season=25 episodes (OT5-OT10) 3 Season=25 episodes (OT11-OT14 with SS1) 4 Season=24 episodes (OT15-OT18) 5 Season=25 episodes (OT19-OT22) This could have been the minimum Kadokawa should have given, but well the company definitely hates Toaru overall.🥲💔 (And I don't think Season 4 is gonna be good; they better focus on ending the OT-Timeline spinoffs first and a REMAKE)
im a casual wacher of the anime and a dyslexic with no plans of reading any novel wen i go on the tiaru reddit I just feel so completly lost because there is so much stuff that has not ben adapted and some of the stuff that has ben adapted has ben adapted so badly it makes no sence
Bro I love the whole franchise but I don't read the ln or anything of that sorts. I just love the anime's that are being made for it and I started watching you vids hoping one day a next season gets announced. As bad as season three for toaru was, I want more
I’ve spent YEARS slowly catching up on the light novels, and I admit, it’s been quite a slog despite the quality. It just feels like an unending stream. The vast majority of fans are completely incapable of sitting through that much content. They don’t have the spare time or dedication.
Anime is an extremely low profit margin industry, and it’s been clear for years that kadokawa and jc simply don’t believe in index having any potential, for one reason or another. They probably had lost hope in it even before index III. And I am sure that even railgun T was a flop by their standards. I am 100% sure that nothing is going to happen
Seeing Danmachi consecutively getting new seasons while Toaru struggles to get anything new on its 20th anniversary is such a kick in the balls. Kadokawa has done this franchise so dirty.
Honestly, if I could afford the LN series, I'd probably get them. It's a shame they got licensed right after you shared download links. Re:Zero has shown me the text versions are generally better than the anime. I'd still like to see more anime. Index 3 was really messed up, and that's on the anime creators.
LN sales really are carried by good anime adaptations. Or audience being familiar with certain characters. Look at NT 3 sales, people were really attracted by the characters appearing in the cover, if not anything else. Then there's NT 11 which I believe got a boost in sales when Railgun T was airing. Franchises with a big audience like KnY will always have a salesplosion whenever it has a LN. For Toaru, the biggest focus should have been to bring the appeal of the universe at full force from very beginning, like Fate. Unfortunately, only the Science side got that advantage. It doesn't help that early OT kinda had more fluid science side volumes than magic side ones to adapt. Still the end of Index II was quite effective in hyping up a future science/magic conflict. I think the sales of Index LN also had a surge after it aired. This was the MOMENT. Announce Index III to air within 3 years. Make it 36 episodes and spend your best resources. Toaru is saved! But what happened eventually is... tardy.
Im kind of mixed on this. I'd rather not have a repeat of index 3. Im enjoying GT a lot. Bleach got a good revival after all these years. I think we just need to be patient while expressing interest and a similar situation could play out.
Damn, but dumb question . Is toaru already finished in light novel? I mean i just got into toaru series' Btw i love your passion about toaru series. It's been so long since i see people like you. I shall subscribe ❤
At least we still have your channel 😅
So true, man.
Thanks Aeon. ❤
Agree
You can really tell how much he loves and cares for the franchise the way he talks about all this
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This series deserves better why FNAF fanbase get to experience a fantastic 10th anniversary when Taoru are they telling me that they care about FNAF more than Taoru it's not fair 😢
Maybe kamachi will have to reboot the series or something i don't know 😢
Remember when Railgun T finished airing and the Toaru Project Twitter confirmed that the Toaru Project was not yet over? I remember.
Pepperidge farms remembers
I WANT SEASON 4 INDEX....
From anger to cope that's all we toaru fans are about 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
I feel betrayed with this year. We were supposed to be given something very grand, and instead IF got shut down. I know Index IV is (maybe) a lot to ask for. But any adaptation? Anything? Astral Buddy? Dark Matter? I would take Railgun too, even if I am more interested in seeing something else, for fresh perspective. Where is the promised surprise? Come on, 20th anniversary year doesn't come around just like that. I suppose next is 25th. I don't want to wait that long though, come on, this franchise is so intricate and wonderful, it needs to get love it deserves!
Like they said announcements would be scattered across the year but did we get ANYTHING? Like anything at all besides the standard GT releases thats already to be expected? The gacha was shut down and thats it.
We got a Mikoto mug (using railgun art) labeled as "index 20th anniversary"
Fun fact: If there’s still no new Toaru anime next year, we will have officially waited longer than the gap between Railgun S and Index III.
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It’s pretty unfortunate to see this happen to Toaru. Especially for being a behemoth in the light novel industry. There is endless content to adapt but I’ve given up hope and only look forward to new volume releases nowadays.
It’s pretty sad to see IF going away because being able to see many NT characters get voiced and animated genuinely made me overjoyed, and felt like a glimpse of what a NT anime could be like. I can’t imagine this is because of low demand or them not having the resources especially with how large it is in East Asia but alas we can only hope for a brighter future and keep reading GT 😔
It really is unfortunate(pun intended) that Toarus 20th Anniversary turned out to be so disappointing and underwhelming, and IF shutting down certainly didn’t help.
Like genuinely, how does one of the most best selling LN of all time get so little?
Madness
Bro is carrying the entire Toaru fanbase and on his back 😭, I also feel quite displeased about this too tbh. Fan of index and yet index get treated like this.
It's crazy that a franchise this big is getting this treatment.
But well, i guess Kadokawa is very confortable with how toaru is right now, that they don't care about what toaru could become. It's more important for them to chase new possible hits, and greenlight a lot of mediocre adptations the new overpowered action harem isekai that has Kirito as the protagonis.
Maybe if Sony buys them, maybe, things will change. Maybe i higher up will look at the company historic and see "hey, that thing here used to sold really well, why we don't make anything about it anymore?".
I hope for the day Index anime receives a reboot.
I think that a good reboot would attract a lot more people in the series, even in Japan (since it's been a long time since the first adaptations we're made, there certainly is a huge anime/manga/LN fanbase that has grow "unaware" of the toaru franchise).
I would be happy with a reboot that isnt just 25 epsiode anime seasons and has the balls to tell the full story!
If Sony buys Kadokawa they’re going to screw up future seasons of Rezero.
The only reason s3 has been so good is because the eps are longer, the first ep was movie length and they delayed releasing it for a year to make the animation really good.
Sony would ruin that.
@@Sleepystumparknights This, as well as Toaru. But it's my understanding that, unfortunately, Sony getting them is extremely likely, barring a miracle, as Kadokawa were the ones to ask.
The fact that you support Sony over Kadokawa is insane and peak stupid, and complaining about harem is cherry on top 🤦
@@PutraRhm i don't support sony, i just said that maybe this change in direction, can change things for the franchise.
I also didn't talk about harem as something bad.
I talked about the whole "Overpowered Kirito in another world" trope.
I mean for LN being made into anime, look at 86 you can tell the staff really CARE about the source material, and that ending was a chef's kiss, absolute PEAK fiction
Also Apothecary Diaries
To a lesser extent, MT and Re:Zero
86 Got me hooked in the LN just like Toaru did, and there is no news for a new season of that too, but I think it's more understandable.
We are beyond cooked
All it took for Index Season 3 to destroy everything. It's the catalyst of all.
Railgun Season 3 can't even save the franchise. It did help but it's temporarily for the casual since it is another season of Anime to watch on the list.
Gacha & Pachinko is just milking the poor remaining loyal fans. It's not promoting new fans getting into the series.
If Index Season 3 is done right, the casual content creators will be discussing the series. There will be more cosplayers promoting the series. There will be more fanarts. People will buy more figurines. DVD/Blu-ray would sell well. Gacha games will still go on. We don't have to resort to making money from Pachinko.
Now, the light novel content creators are helping to keep the franchise alive for the Western audience. I don't see manga being discussed well.
Obviously, Aeon of Horus also takes part in keeping the franchise alive for the Western audience.
I feel your pain man, I'm also super worried about the direction things might take if Sony buys out Kadokawa, maybe it won't affect Toaru much but I can only hope so...
The 20th Anniversary has been rough so far, especially with the blow of IF dying....I'm not sure if Kadokawa getting badly hacked early this year has delayed any projects (if any have been planned) back a bit. To tell the truth, the thing I want the most is a new Index anime whether that be NT or even an OT remake....On the more positive side, we still have this month and up till April 2025 to get something announced! We also had that strange Tweet that said a NT anime is in talks, whether or not that leaker is legit or is playing a cruel joke reminds to be seen. I'm still hopeful we might get something announced soon but even then, this has even exceeded my worst-case scenario.
It’s sad to see, I mean I gave Toaru a try this September with the index anime and I’m currently on nt7, I just hope Toaru makes a massive comeback next year
That's great! I hope so...
I feel you man. Hate to see it. 😔
I've been waiting for Season 4 of Index since 2017. Then, they released Season 3 of Railgun almost two years ago. We should have an Index Season 4 by now, especially this year, but no. I would be surprised if they announced they are making Season 4 of Index
The only way for Toaru to be saved is if they make a proper adaptation like they did with The Eminence in Shadow made by Studio Nexus (Kadokawa has his favorites XD)
Dengeki did plan for the accelerator spin off to get massive attention coming off of Index iii. But we all saw how well that went. Same with dark matter and how hyped he was in Index III.
Same with mental out launching shortly after Railgun T. But I don't hear anyone talking about it.
Dengeki made multiple attempts to grow the franchise but made massive mistakes at multiple steps of their plans. They're likely at a stage where they are reevaluating the direction of the franchise.
At least Anbu no ITEM is doing things right for once. That has potential to grow, but I doubt it was made to last.
item anime would go hard
In the next story arc, I'd like to see misaka try to create her own phase/belief system that uses the esper's personal reality as idols. For example since misaka uses lightning then she could use it as a symbol to link heaven and earth thus welding both wind and earth magic. I got this idea because I think that I once heard that in a lightning storm the lightning actually strikes in the middle because one half of the electrons travel from the sky down, and the other from the earth up (again, I could be wrong). I can see Misaka wanting to compete with magic because of how helpless and powerless she felt in recent volumes. With the existence of angels, majin, and majin like mages (last two are practically level 6), it would be reasonable for misaka to look for an edge. Not to mention there's a lot of level zeros and ones esper's who felt cheated by the program, or hit a wall, so it's not like she would be short on support if that's what it takes to create a phase, by spreading the message or fleshing out the belief system (I don't know if notoriety is mandatory for making a phase without majin level magic).
Despite all the doom and gloom, the toaru fanfiction community is still thriving, lots of good stuff is being written over on the SpaceBattles creative writing forums, with A Certain Interdimensional Civics Teacher (my favourite) hitting 180 chapters and a bunch of high quality Kuroko, OC, and Misaka Clone self-inserts. I've had lots of fun scrolling through all the garbage out there to find the underrated gems to scratch that 'dark side of academy city' itch
Why is toaru treated this way? This series deserves the best adaptation but it just gets ignored to make another isekai power fantasy slop anime
4:38 last I heard Unlimited Blade Works is going to air on US TV for the first time. An NT anime could be announced tomorrow and Toonami would still never air Index 😫
to be fair Fate(Typemoon) is the money machine of aniplex and they are giving it special treatment over others and their US staff have started to become more influential in the states, getting more contacts and expanding their reach.
there are so mamy things in favor of fate with the expansion of aniplex and typemoon(specially in games, a new area for aniplex publishing the VNs and collaboratin with Koei tecmo for samurai remnant
Aeon I do feel your pain exactly. This is truly sad. 😥
Honestly, this is why I don't try to hope for things if I notice there's little to begin with, so I won't be as hurt when nothing or something bad happens. I will just enjoy the LNs manga and whatever comes out for the series, but it was clear to me that Toaru, for whatever reason, is an afterthought to the company. From what I've seen, companies, even when they clearly make stupid decisions that cost them money (only up till a certain point in most cases), usually don't budge unless they are literally forced to or the people at the top change.
who knows, maybe they have been making it behind the seems all this time, and in the next year or two and they will release NT and then end up releasing each season 1 to 2 years apart from each other. Hopeful thinking I'm sure. But let's all hope. Other than that at least we a probably guaranteed to get New Testament in manga at some point.
PS: I have a lot of anime only watcher friends, and seen a ton of anime only watchers who loved Season 3. And the Accelerator anime. Through I still say they should make an original season 2 of that and scrap the Full Corse Arc if they decided to make a 2nd season of that.
What I would give for Aleis-tan to be animated
At least we have the animations from imaginary fest...
What worries me also is how Sony is planning to buy Kadokawa, cause that will shift their priorities. Whether Index 4 is part of that shift or not is beyond us. Considering how ignored/dormant the IP has been, it scares me that the series might not get a chance to have a 4th season of the anime, even if the books are doing well.
still glad ur channel is around bro
thanks!
Also shoutout to all those unique fanarts & artists we seen across the media that can literally make a cool moment from the novels possible. Hell they can literally make their own animations that do better than what most scenes in the anime can't do. I really want to see the Toaru franchise spread across the media like it did 2019 & 2020, I want to see the magical and scientific franchises to rise up against average isekai slop 🙏🥹
hell yeah
I would love if the light novels got audiobooks like other light novels
Realisticly they would want more people watching it than just the fans and i cant see new people aside from a few showing instrest if they are told they'd have to watch 3 2cour seasons to catch up.
As for mikoto and railgun making sales i see that as the same as something like highschool dxd - the merch for dxd so well but they have yet to do a season 5 despite the great merch sales
I'm more a Railgun/AB/MO/Item fan than Index fan, but even I think it's disgraceful that there's been nothing to celebrate the 20TH ANNIVERSARY of the main series. Like dude, are you serious right now???
Index started it all so anything would have been good, even an anime adaptation of another work of Kamachis
You are so right. Toaru franchise deserves better. If they continue to make new episodes, I will continue to buy (have all the Blu releases so far). Really like the characters and they deserve better.
I feel your pain all to well. I am a huge fan of the Toaru Universe and fully enjoy what little anime we have of the different parts of the stories. I am greatly disappointed though considering the anime side of the table. When I look at all the anime that has been created that has any real value to it other then brain rot I find myself dumbfounded. Sure, everyone has there likes and dislikes, but this goes well beyond that. It actually feels like they are actively punishing and ignoring the fans of Toaru universe.
I won't list off all the anime that has been made that made next to no money, or anime that is seriously perverted and leaves you thinking there are some people out there with some really "interesting" fetishes or takes on what is good or worth watching but seriously... why are we getting ignored or left out in the cold. Rant mode off, I agree with you whole heartedly Aeon. I shall stay hopeful for the future, that we will get what we want hopefully.
Till then, I am happy to have a this channel that keeps me entertained, up to date, and reasonably educated on all things in the Toaru Universe.
From what I've been told. The anime and manga is made to sell merch and the novel. The novel is so popular in Japan though that it doesn't need an anime or manga to boost sales, and merch is popular enough from the novel; so there is little incentive to continue as anime and manga are like selling your console for cheap to make up for the price on selling the games at a higher price. Though if everyone is buying the games already with or without a console then there isn't much of a point to make something that loses you money.
Despite of the IP's age and the fact it didn't have an anime release in years it still moves merch. That says a lot.
But the longer they wait the more the IP will go in obscurity in the general mind.
Unfortunately cool IP's don't always get the attention they deserve. Titanfall 10 year anniversary this was a dissapointment as well.
To aru imaginary fest😢
Sure is imaginary now
there are gonna be at least 50 more Misaka figures before the new anime
I mean, the franchise is out for 20 years already, it's already freaking impressive, the fact that we get some news and some new content IS fine. There's like, so much new stuff happening around with so many anime, games and manages jumping out of nowhere that it's not actually that easy to even keep afloat. Pray, support and hope
Great video
Not holding my breath for a new Anime....
Just relax everyone, all these years without anime can only mean one thing: they are cooking up some of the sickest animations we have ever seen in anime!
No, Kamachi deserved better. Heavy Object and a lot more Kamachi novels got it far worse and I think the failure of that anime must have hit Kamachi's motivation as a writer because he just wasn't the same after that. As a reminder, just cuz of some bad PR, all the Toaru fanbase was against the HO anime and pretty much destroyed the chances of any other novel series Kamachi was writing to ever get an anime adaptation, and the game he was writing for also got cancelled. Put yourself in his shoes for 2 seconds; that must have been extremely disappointing. And sure enough a few years after the streak of insanely creative original novels series Kamachi used to write all at once (on top of continuing Index) all of them ended and he's clearly writing much less stuff overall these days, it's like he's the doing the bare minimum while focusing on Index. I honestly think, if the fanbase didn't act like children that one time Kamachi would have been taken more seriously by Dengeki by now, and there would have been more hype and more budget given to Kamachi's stuff, he would have gotten more of his series animated while growing the hype for ToAru which would have gotten bigger and bigger, just like how Nasu w/ Fate and other successful writers always have multiple series going on to create a feedback loop and grow the fanbase and popularity, Kamachi could have enjoyed that. It's such a shame.
Never thought about that, its very unfortunate
Im happy hes still giving a shot to writing other novels on top of index and spinoffs, failing witch seem to be fun to read so far in the 3 volumes
It would have been a different story if HO anime was good tho, those who did check it out in the west dropped it around episode 4. I would welcome a Blood Sign anime adaptation or something else if done well. So really it is whoever adapts Kamachi's series who let him down, so I do feel sorry for him.
And on the topic of fate/nasu, Nasu also had early anime adaptations of his work that weren't particularly well received by hardcore fans (Studio Deen, and JC Staff's Tsukihime), and still helped get people into his stories with it eventually leading to Fate adaptations which fans liked. So just cos the fanbase doesnt like an anime adaptation doesn't mean they destroyed chances of future ones, it might just be a JC Staff problem.
I don’t remember the name, but there was a novel about people fighting with summons that was cool, why hasn’t that gotten animated.
@@Sleepystumparknights unexplored summon blood-sign, that one
Are there any numbers on how Index 3 performed? I suspect it did super bad because it frankly WAS super bad. And studios don't care at all about story or creativity. They care about $$$ and nothing else. Some executive who probably hasn't even read the source material probably made the choice.
My favorite Anime Character Accelerator loved to play him in Crossing Void but that game is gone
Do love the manga and light novel
10th one was legendary really with cool trailer and pretty much nt 9 being epicly good man time flies.
you know i feel like it would be way better at this point to have a community funded project were some of the best animators and such of the toaru community come together and just make a animated manga series of well everything toaru has manga wise so far. i dont read manga or books in general much anymore but i have found myself looking at tons of recap series nowadays [modern day version of a book perhaps in my eyes? idk] but id definitely watch a animated manga toaru video series. as for S.E id honestly say ranting about them isnt going to get you anywhere they arent your friends and as a just cause fan our series is also left up in the air as well as ive said before i think in a past video toaru really just needs huge possibly fornite-esque [like huge events happening] open world game multiple playable characters ect ect.
Miki eventually caved in when fans were complaining to him online and irl about there being no Index III. If no one says anything then nothing will change.
@@AeonofHorus i mean although im not as hating or whatever anime index 3 as you are. [i enjoyed it tbh but im pretty sure what i got from alot of people is it skipped out on aton of content right?]. but if you yell to the skys and force someone to yk work on something it might end up like index III like imagine they make a NT anime finally and then it comes out and finishs like index III.
@@Helix142 Index III is enjoyable, but it being enjoyable doesn't make it good. to put it into perspective: season 1 of Index was 24 episodes and covered 6 LN volumes, while Index III was 26 episodes and covered a whopping 9 volumes. They rushed through the pre-WW3 arcs and skimmed over details making it confusing for viewers who didnt know the context.
its not about forcing people to make it, as customers we have the right to complain about products we consume so that the company can make a better newer product. Feedback is super important, and doesnt have to be toxic. Being annoyed or disappointed is a normal emotion.
@@AeonofHorus well yeah i can understand that it would of been nice if index III was made longer or well index in general got more seasons to cover all that stuff. but i feel like you came into this with to high of expectations tbh not every anniversary will be something huge like valve did for half life 2. SHOULD OF something big happened? yeah sure. but it didnt inless its going to happen like at new years which also would be a great time to announce/release something huge.
Imagine what Toaru could of been. 😔
As someone going to Japan this holiday season and for new years I’m going to be hunting for Index merch. I need to keep hope alive, yeah it’s cope but still I love this series….
Considering that the franchise is 20 years old it's surprising that stuff about it is still being translated with the yenpress releases of NT and the goat himself making the manga for OT. Both of these will take years to finish translating but we at least have some content. Look at Shakugan no shana fans. They can't even read the original novel because it never got translated. (Yes I am on copium while writing this)
Some 20th anniversary we got huh?
This series desperately deserves a tactical RPG series that is outside of what's going on in the main series. The universe is big enough for stories outside of rhe main series.
I just wanted to share I am going day after tomorrow to the fantasy convention in the capitol city cosplaying Accelerator. I don't care if this franchise continues or not. I mean yes, it would be gravely sad if they stop giving the fans new content, but I will be grateful for the possibility to rewatch Index four times, Accelerator anime 4 and Railgun two. The characters are amazing and the story is mindblowing. This franchise changed my life for better and I will never regret falling for series (and Accel redemption Arc)
Ascendance of a Bookworm got its 4th season by Wit Studio. Imagine if they announce that NT is going to be adapted by Ufotable
Does J.C Staff not realise how successful an NT anime could be? The fandom is super hyped about it, the Light Novel of this arc is super successful and a Toaru anime comeback would make so much money if we‘re being honest. Not only would it bring old fans back, if they do decently on the animation or, god forbid, give it the Railgun T treatment, they could get so many new people into it.
It‘s so sad because Toaru is really an amazing world but it’s tiring to wait for so long for new (anime) content.
But honestly it feels like JC staff generally doesn’t really care about the animes they make…
Whether they realize that or not doesn't matter when they're low position on the production committee. The decision mainly depends on Kadokawa, NBC Universal Japan, Square Enix...
@@andryzounbasically this
In my opinion they should make more Animes because i like to see more of my favourites scenes from the light novels even if its 13 ep like Accelerator. This series needs more love and care
2 vids a week? I must be in heaven
Can somebody spoil me and tell me if accelerator gets a happy ending?
Fate is getting a COLLAB with fkcjng HONKAAAAI STAAARRRAAAAIL bro like how is eminence in shadow and this peak not collabing with real actually popular non jp only gachas
"I stub my toe on a rock and now I'm the strongest eye surgeon in another world".
Idk about that give me toaru something pleasee
even if they just kept milking railgun anime and finished as much of the story for it as they could i'd be happy... maybe item will get adapted once it finishes... i've lost hope lol
In France there was the Railgun manga edited by Noeve Graphx and the Editor is on judicial recovery xDDDDD (I'm crying)
rip
I’m not really upset that we didn’t get a new season of anything, (disappointed though) but I am upset that we didn’t even get something like a 20th anniversary collector’s item, for example one of those books where they interview everyone involved in the franchise up to that point and give a preview of a new spinoff or something
Index story is so massive that it has many story potentials, it just needs polishing.
The Toaru Universe is the only anime that pulled me into it universe so powerfully. Every thing is great and the character is so diverse and fun to know.
I want anime NT so badly, i love this series especially the railgun parts
It really hurts when the creators of your favorite series don't cash in and make both themselves happy and the fans happy.
Toaru really needs that Brotherhood treatment, it is such a masterpiece 😢
I think this is the first time I’ve seen him mad. We feel you man…
I haven't read Genesis yet but I was looking forward to new content this year
This series have endless potentials there's so many they can do Anime adaptations manga adaptations game adaptations or many other spinoffs hell make an another Accelerator spinoff the first one was ass so give him the True spinoff he deserves there's so many potentials for this series that kamachi and the ones with him don't notice if I'm the one who own this series i would've made all these by now
I have a feeling Index will come back strong in 2025. They're gonna have that new years motivation.
god i hope
I was actually complaining about Fate’s 20th anniversary too but compare to the Toaru franchise going two decades without nothing I feel sympathy for you guys and I’m the casual fan and like Toaru too! So I feel sad the franchise isn’t getting nothing
Never forget they released a misaka cup for the 20th anniversary
Adapted the rules of shadowrun for a toaru setting.
I call it "A Certain trpg" 0.8
Want a bit more of playtest before publishing.
Honestly, the anime would have been way better if Kadokawa and JC Staff agreed on working over 5 seasons for the Old Testament. Like-
1 Season=24 episodes (OT1-OT5)
2 Season=25 episodes (OT5-OT10)
3 Season=25 episodes (OT11-OT14 with SS1)
4 Season=24 episodes (OT15-OT18)
5 Season=25 episodes (OT19-OT22)
This could have been the minimum Kadokawa should have given, but well the company definitely hates Toaru overall.🥲💔
(And I don't think Season 4 is gonna be good; they better focus on ending the OT-Timeline spinoffs first and a REMAKE)
im a casual wacher of the anime and a dyslexic with no plans of reading any novel wen i go on the tiaru reddit I just feel so completly lost because there is so much stuff that has not ben adapted and some of the stuff that has ben adapted has ben adapted so badly it makes no sence
Bro I love the whole franchise but I don't read the ln or anything of that sorts. I just love the anime's that are being made for it and I started watching you vids hoping one day a next season gets announced. As bad as season three for toaru was, I want more
I guess the true Toaru 20th Anniversary was the friends we made along the way 🥲
lol
:^)
I will say this over and over again. As long J.C staff have the rights to Toaru, everything animewise about Toaru will go down hill.
So much for the year of the dragon 😢
I want all NT adaptation.
I want Live Actio series about ToAru Index.
I want ma boy Touma a good show😢
I’ve spent YEARS slowly catching up on the light novels, and I admit, it’s been quite a slog despite the quality. It just feels like an unending stream.
The vast majority of fans are completely incapable of sitting through that much content. They don’t have the spare time or dedication.
I wanted a new game or anime Series
Anime is an extremely low profit margin industry, and it’s been clear for years that kadokawa and jc simply don’t believe in index having any potential, for one reason or another. They probably had lost hope in it even before index III. And I am sure that even railgun T was a flop by their standards.
I am 100% sure that nothing is going to happen
Seeing Danmachi consecutively getting new seasons while Toaru struggles to get anything new on its 20th anniversary is such a kick in the balls. Kadokawa has done this franchise so dirty.
4:15. Aeon don't be surprised that JC STAFF are run by idiots .
Man this really is the crash out era.
At the saddest times, im still clinging on hope that Idol Accelerator will be the light in the darkness...
idol accel anime would be amazing
I think exactly everything you said
i really enjoyed the A Certain Scientific Amazing Punch anime until i woke up 😭
how long does it take to make each light novel summary? and does patreon help them come out more? lol
Honestly, if I could afford the LN series, I'd probably get them. It's a shame they got licensed right after you shared download links.
Re:Zero has shown me the text versions are generally better than the anime.
I'd still like to see more anime.
Index 3 was really messed up, and that's on the anime creators.
LN sales really are carried by good anime adaptations. Or audience being familiar with certain characters. Look at NT 3 sales, people were really attracted by the characters appearing in the cover, if not anything else. Then there's NT 11 which I believe got a boost in sales when Railgun T was airing.
Franchises with a big audience like KnY will always have a salesplosion whenever it has a LN. For Toaru, the biggest focus should have been to bring the appeal of the universe at full force from very beginning, like Fate. Unfortunately, only the Science side got that advantage. It doesn't help that early OT kinda had more fluid science side volumes than magic side ones to adapt.
Still the end of Index II was quite effective in hyping up a future science/magic conflict. I think the sales of Index LN also had a surge after it aired. This was the MOMENT. Announce Index III to air within 3 years. Make it 36 episodes and spend your best resources. Toaru is saved!
But what happened eventually is... tardy.
Im kind of mixed on this. I'd rather not have a repeat of index 3. Im enjoying GT a lot.
Bleach got a good revival after all these years. I think we just need to be patient while expressing interest and a similar situation could play out.
One of those “it is what it is” moments.
but the announcement of a new anime A CERTAIN DARK SIDE ITEM ANIME when will it come out in this month or in 2025?
i mean if you think about it a franchise that has 4 mangas running in parallel isn't dead dead
Damn, but dumb question .
Is toaru already finished in light novel? I mean i just got into toaru series'
Btw i love your passion about toaru series. It's been so long since i see people like you. I shall subscribe ❤
The light novels are still ongoing, its on its third LN series called Genesis Testament, I review the new volumes when they release :)
tysm!
Agreed with all points