Absolutely this!! What horrible people they are! I'm not in contact with my side of the family,and they've tried this same trick with me. But I'm over them all.. I needed help when I was thrown out to the streets at 14,and didn't have a place to live, no one cared. Now I'm finally happy, so I don't want any stressful people in my life..
I love how they never pay child support after 20 years do these people realize it never goes away and it will come out your Social Security and pension??
Only if you sue for it too. OR there is a court judgement. Not usually a surprise though cause the same court things that would snatch it out of SS, should be snatching it out of any tax refunds as well.
I mean, if they're always working under the table, they aren't paying into anything to then be able to claim it later so, in order to screw their ex & kid, they're ultimately gonna screw themselves but couldn't happen to a more deserving group of folks lol.
@@Cynthea_Lee It depends on the state and what else in going on. If the care-giving partner receives any government benefits, typically that government will go after the deadbeat directly, and SS is a good way to do it. The theory is that the government agency wouldn't have had to pay out taxpayer money if the deadbeat had actually paid their support, so now they owe that money to the agency itself.
Love how they accused OP’s mom of being abusive, but as soon as OP mentioned contacting the cops, the wife immediately becomes abusive herself, even calling what OP said “abusive”
Cheating GF's issue isn't being weak to peer pressure, it's refusing to be accountable. If she ditched the friends she is blaming for her cheating she'd just switch to blaming something else....It'll never be her fault.
For real. If she was legit being "peer pressured", she had plenty of chances to either cancel or talk to OP to help her get out of the situation. Which kind of makes it worse than the whole club thing. It wasn't an in the moment scenario, she legit had to make plans and made at least a whole day of it. Then had the stones to call it a mental health day? Naw, it's like that one commenter said, it's only situations that require her being unfaithful that she's a poor widdle girl who can't stand up herself. The poor lamb is sensitive. Give me a break.
@@ashh4929exactly. If a "friend" is peer pressuring you to cheat or indulge in 3somes, a) that's no friend b) you tell someone before anything happens. C. You end the friendship. Only thing I can see would support her is if she's being blackmailed into doing stuff. But it's all free will
so if it was against her will and it was "peer pressure" Then her friends basically kidnapped her and SA her. So it would be fine to call the cops right? See how quickly she back peddles. Yeah GF needs help for being a compulsive liar.
OMg, The first two comments in the last so I sound like crybabies. Wah, wah, my partner did not pay for me on a trip so I’m gonna project and shame OP for it. Pathetic. Tell me you’re not projecting and acting jealous without telling me you’re not projecting and acting jealous. Those two whole comment reek of jealousy and envy
Nah its a clear YTA. And calling ppl babies when they disagree with you says more abt _your_ maturity than everyone else's. A normal response would be "oh sweet, I didn't know it was a steal ! Do have a trick for finding such good deals ?" Obviously the women would then have asked how she didn't know the price & she wiuld have still iced her fiancé. But she didn't do anything to OP regardless. And we have no clue what the fiancé said to her to have her organize everything & pay her part. Maybe they had a deal OP wasn't aware of. Maybe she her being salty abt it is legitimate. If not it's an ESH but we only know for sure OP is an AH. Who tf says "idgaf abt the price, I didn't pay anything lol" Like if anything op is an AH to her bf. I feel like her whole convo to the organizer was pure lip service too while sliding a brag into it.
Also I'm calling bs on the peer pressure thing. I find it extremely less likely for these friends to be so hell bent ond making her cheat rather than the girlfriend asking for them to justify her shameful actions. Sure it could be, but at the end of the day it's still the girlfriend's responsibility to stay loyal
Yeah, I've been in bad company,and they always push drugs etc on you,but I've never heard of cheating. Like no one has tried to force me to cheat on my husband. I've been married for 22yrs,and no one could make me cheat. When I was younger I was stupid enough to try some drugs,but went no contact with all of them soon enough..
Story 1: that man REALLY D.A.R.V.O.'d the crap out of it. "I love my son so much but I walked out and won't pay for anything for him at all." That woman and the kid are DELUSIONAL to think that the man isn't a freaken monster to his older kid.
No kidding. He abandoned his kid, didn't pay child support, and supposedly left his kid with someone horrible. If what he said about her being ab usive was true, he should have gathered evidence and taken her to court.
Story 3: NTA. She's a gold digger and a boundary stomper. It was NOT rude to tell her to gtfo when she showed up uninvited. OP was absolutely right to end things when she did. He was an ATM to her, not a boyfriend with her spawn.
The woman cheated 100%, and she wanted to do it. Weeks of "pressuring" and she doesnt say a word to Op. Leaves to some cabin, doesn't say anything about it until Op finds out. Op asks her if anything happened, lies to his face. When she finally admits something, claims nothing serious happened. Deflects all blame from herself by saying she had no control over anything. Next she's going to say she let someone stick it in, but it's okay because he was wearing protection. That other woman is probably a single mom for a reason. She sounds crazy and selfish, I'll bet she was putting in the work to appear sweet and nice while she was manipulating him. Went from "playfully" asking what Op was doing to getting serious when he stood his ground, stomped into his home all angry, and when she found nothing suddenly she's lovely and down for action? I would've drawn the line when her kids started acting the way they did, how a kid acts around their parent sometimes reflects what kind of person that parent is. Mentioning that your partner paid for everything sounds like a totally normal thing to do. It's exactly what happened to Op: her partner paid for everything, she had no idea how much anything costs. It's not bragging at all, she literally just explained why she was unaware. Some people care more about the finances and want to know the numbers, others are fine as long as it's handled, there is no one way to deal with finances in a relationship and Op is allowed to let her partner deal with all the costs.
They want validation. They're doubtful of the deadbeat's story and are grasping at straws to prove that they weren't snookered by an emotional con artist.
1:00 When I get a Facebook Friend Request from someone I don't know and/or has no mutual friends, I ignore it completely. If I were to refuse it, they could just re-request again, so I let it sit in my Request list, ignored.
OP saying "I dont know, I'm not paying" isn't bragging. It's being honest. Fiancé is just mad cuz now the bar has been set higher. From the sounds of it, this isn't the first time the lady who got mad has been expected to pay and maybe she's damn sick of it.
Story 1: holy crap. The dad has really spun a tale, hasn't he? The obsessive persistence, combined with poor logic skills from the wife & daughter are dumbfounding. Yeah, OPs mom's abusive, that's why I never paid a cent in child support (?!) Sounds like we're heading towards restraining order time. Story 2: 27 yr old GF buckles to "peer pressure" faster than a cheap lawn chair. Repeatedly. OP is not her therapist and it sounds like she needs at least 2 of them. Story 3: Wow, that woman and her kids sounded like a swarm of locusts. Oh, and please shove your own children aside. Any combined house would be 8 kids! I'm sure if OP were foolish enough to marry her that he would be on the hook for +5 college funds, etc.
Story 1: The sperm donor spun a tale, but I would be very curious about the version he told the other family. Also, I would have taken the time to see they got the full details from OP's side - with specifics about court dates missed, child support not paid, etc.
Did he? Why doesn't he ask about proof from their side.. if i got abused i would make sure my ex couldn't find me either.. now op is aduld they can surpas op's mother and maybe they want to give the childsupport to op.. he doesn't know because he only listen to his mother.
@@paulinadeboer3604they have contact with op and aren't giving him the child support. Also it's illegal to withhold child support, so you can't just decide to hold onto it and give it to them later. Literally the child support is all you need to know that the dad is a POS, the court documents about him avoiding to pay it can be verified. Simply check the records or file for back child support and everything is cleared, if the mother faked the documents about child support he won't have to pay op. But if he did (in this case sounds like he very much did not pay) owe back pay, the two harassing him will find out he was a pos.
The interpersonal fallout is a reflection of the other couple’s dynamics, not OP’s actions. I don’t think the YTA comments in the last story actually considered what OP said. There’s a difference between responding truthfully to a comment like, 'I’m sure you’re glad it’s so cheap split four ways,' by explaining she didn’t pay, and outright bragging that her boyfriend covered her portion of the trip.
Besides, if OP had said nothing - thus implying that she HAD paid for her portion, there would have later been fall-out when it came out (which such an innocuous thing would at some stage) that BF had paid for her. She would have then been accused of taking credit for the generosity of others. This is a no-win situation due to the attitudes of the other couple.
Why is OP with this mooch of a single mother with four kids? She sees him as an ATM and if he marries her, his life will be hell. Get rid of the mooch!
Not the idiot on the last story. The fallout of not splitting it 4 ways is not her problem. Sharing that your boyfriend is treating you is not being braggy. Dear god 🙄 All those you’re the asshole comments are probably coming from cheap men who don’t want their partners expecting more out of them….the pay gap is real hunny, treat your woman!❤
tell them "ok fine, I'll meet you at your house" take his address and sue for the child support he owns you, DONT tell them what you gonna do, surprise them
DAMN!! SHE IS JEALOUS!! She's jealous that her boyfriend paid for hers and her fiance split the cost!! PLUS!!She spent the rest of the trip trying to cozy up to them or rather her boyfriend! Plus the fiance should see that this is a red flag!🚩🚩 She's mad at him for something his friend did! I'm not saying she's a gold digger though!! Those people who called her a idiot must be in The Gold Diggers United Club!!
S1 - OP needs to sue for all back child support. The deadbeat may not be required to pay child support after the child turns 18 but he would still be on the hock for all child support in arrears.
they just don't know when to quit. The way they keep pushing their version of the story, even after you’ve made it clear you’re not interested, is seriously messed up. You owe them nothing. Stay strong and keep those boundaries firm.
The last story, oh my God, what is the big damned deal? So OP said she wasn't paying for her part, who the hell cares. And for the fiance to accuse her of discussing finances? Her saying she wasn't paying isn't her discussing finances. Maybe he should be a better fiance. OP should not apologise for his insecurities. If the fiancee is mad, it's at him not OP. And Reddit, they make it seem like OP committed a crime. OP did NOTHING wrong. OP is NTA but the fiance is.
@@miss_mishactually the sentence you made, without the obvious vocal tones, implies that you do agree that he should’ve supported her. A better way to rewrite the first sentence is “Wtf?! You should support her to cheat?” The added exclamation and question marks makes obvious to other readers of your reaction to the situation.
No parent that thinks their partner is abuse tucks and run. They stand and fight until their kid is safe. Ok he's using the excuse that leaving son was for son's safety, but not paying child support was supposed to help the kid how. A lot of abuse starts with a lack of myoney so if daddy dearest didn't pay his fair share that would put the child into danger if the partner was truly abusive?
I'm have the same pile of useless child support nonsense. My son not impressed but when he needed his dad's social security number i found it in the file. So it turned out it was useful
15:32 why would it be “dimming her own light” to NOT make a statement of “i wouldn’t know, my Bf paid for me”? The question was “isn’t that a great deal?” 😂😂😂 Sounds like that last commenter is someone who walks around aggrandizing themselves and thinks that’s normal behavior.
Last Story: "How you and your boyfriend spend your money has zero impact on their choices." Except we just read a story where how they spend their money had 100% impact on the fiance's choices. It shouldn't, but it clearly does.
Ex sounds like a nightmare. She stomped over every boundary and ignored every sensible or social request. Block her and move on with therapy to spot these signs sooner in future.
S 1: OP needs t keep anything ugly they say about his mother and take them to court for slander (on mom's part) and harassment (on his). Then she can open the door to sue Ex for the child support. S 3: OP needs to ask his own kids what they think of her and her kids. She would pull a complete Lady Tremaine. Wait till they were married start taking everything from his kids and bullying them. You can tell by what he's said, she'd blame everything her kids did on his children.
First story: I can see 3 options as to why they'd hound Op this much, 1. Dad needs an organ and none of them is a match, 2. They need Op to forgive the outstanding child support, 3. Dad's dead and they're hoping Op will support them in his place. My response would to demand the outstanding child support as an act of good faith. Surly if dad is such a great guy that was robbed of his child, he'd want to make up for not being there right?
“ I decided to forgive her because.., in reality, I’m a spineless moron.” This prat actually thought the friends were the problem. Modern men😂 NTA for dumping her finally.
Story 1 even if Op dad was 100% innocent he wouldn’t get an relationship until Op is ready and no amount of pestering from half sister or her mother is going to change that
Story 2: Is…is Op’s gf 5…? Why does Op need to constantly baby his cheating gf…? Cause you know that if he demanded she cut contact with her toxic friends, those same people would call Op “toxic” and “controlling”. This is ridiculous NTA Op
So he has all the proofs dad was a deadbeat that owe two decades of child support and the interest - he has proof of that and that dad ran... And instead of exposing everything and explaining how they are the one who do not know the monster they live with... He just goes "leave me alone! Not listening! Lalalalalala" Wow, op is... Unusually slow? He didn't even try explaining, so yeah he kinda is the A. He escalates the situation instead of communicating why his dad is unworthy - it's like op just want more drama.
Story 3 r/AmItheDoormat. A real gentleman would date a real lady. Drop the gold digger and find a real lady. Don't blame her kids; they're just following her example.
Story 1 I'd send a picture of what dad owes in back child support to both with the message yep he is great dead beat that loved me so much he didn't support me at all. Also my mother has NEVER been abusive but I guess I can't expect my dead beat father to actually tell the truth and if you are dumb enough to believe him that is a YOU problem. I know that what he claims is nothing but a pack of lies.
Do people forget ESH is an option? Last story OP sucks for bragging about not having to pay and the friend sucks for being a petty golddigger. Both can be true at the same time.
I wouldn't call it bragging since OP was never asked to pay and didn't know the arrangement. She just told the truth. The other chick made a different deal and decided to ruin the trip because she's so entitled.
@@ruthsaunders9507 Yes. Even if the cost were split 4-ways (as the friend's fiancee stated), it does not immediately come to my mind that she meant each individual paid their own, and I would have stated the same since my bf had paid for my costs.
Story one go to court and not to stop them from contacting but to sue father for child support that way they get to see that everything he made up was a lie and when he's paying all that back support he has to try to explain to them why he treated his oldest the way he did.
![[FULL STORY] They Dumped Me in a Foster Home to Travel the World, So I Became the One They Could...](/img/1.gif)
Story 1- use the step mom and 1/2 sis info to trach the dad, send the info to family court and make him pay OP 18 yrs of back child support
And File Lien's on any property he owns if he doesn't pay.
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Exactly. Let him pay that back child support and I hope the courts get as much interest as possible on it.
Absolutely this!! What horrible people they are! I'm not in contact with my side of the family,and they've tried this same trick with me. But I'm over them all.. I needed help when I was thrown out to the streets at 14,and didn't have a place to live, no one cared. Now I'm finally happy, so I don't want any stressful people in my life..
That’s actually a smart idea. If they’re so eager to reach out, they might as well be useful and help track him down for what he owes!
I love how they never pay child support after 20 years do these people realize it never goes away and it will come out your Social Security and pension??
Only if you sue for it too. OR there is a court judgement. Not usually a surprise though cause the same court things that would snatch it out of SS, should be snatching it out of any tax refunds as well.
Yeah, it's wild how they think they can just walk away from it. That money doesn't disappear, and it will catch up to them one way or another
I mean, if they're always working under the table, they aren't paying into anything to then be able to claim it later so, in order to screw their ex & kid, they're ultimately gonna screw themselves but couldn't happen to a more deserving group of folks lol.
@@Cynthea_Lee It depends on the state and what else in going on. If the care-giving partner receives any government benefits, typically that government will go after the deadbeat directly, and SS is a good way to do it. The theory is that the government agency wouldn't have had to pay out taxpayer money if the deadbeat had actually paid their support, so now they owe that money to the agency itself.
Love how they accused OP’s mom of being abusive, but as soon as OP mentioned contacting the cops, the wife immediately becomes abusive herself, even calling what OP said “abusive”
Cheating GF's issue isn't being weak to peer pressure, it's refusing to be accountable.
If she ditched the friends she is blaming for her cheating she'd just switch to blaming something else....It'll never be her fault.
This
For real. If she was legit being "peer pressured", she had plenty of chances to either cancel or talk to OP to help her get out of the situation. Which kind of makes it worse than the whole club thing. It wasn't an in the moment scenario, she legit had to make plans and made at least a whole day of it. Then had the stones to call it a mental health day? Naw, it's like that one commenter said, it's only situations that require her being unfaithful that she's a poor widdle girl who can't stand up herself. The poor lamb is sensitive. Give me a break.
@@ashh4929exactly. If a "friend" is peer pressuring you to cheat or indulge in 3somes, a) that's no friend b) you tell someone before anything happens. C. You end the friendship. Only thing I can see would support her is if she's being blackmailed into doing stuff. But it's all free will
so if it was against her will and it was "peer pressure" Then her friends basically kidnapped her and SA her. So it would be fine to call the cops right? See how quickly she back peddles. Yeah GF needs help for being a compulsive liar.
Honestly op3 sounds super kind and considerate, I hope he's doing well
OMg, The first two comments in the last so I sound like crybabies. Wah, wah, my partner did not pay for me on a trip so I’m gonna project and shame OP for it. Pathetic. Tell me you’re not projecting and acting jealous without telling me you’re not projecting and acting jealous. Those two whole comment reek of jealousy and envy
Not to mention, if they’re getting married, there is no “my finances” anymore, like seriously, what a cry baby.
Yeah! I was confused by the first two comments, like, partners paying for each other is so incredibly normal??
The question was “isn’t that a great deal?” Not “did you have to pay?” The answer is “yes, that IS a great deal”.
You’re not wrong! Some people just love to project their frustrations onto others instead of focusing on their own issues
Nah its a clear YTA. And calling ppl babies when they disagree with you says more abt _your_ maturity than everyone else's.
A normal response would be "oh sweet, I didn't know it was a steal ! Do have a trick for finding such good deals ?" Obviously the women would then have asked how she didn't know the price & she wiuld have still iced her fiancé.
But she didn't do anything to OP regardless.
And we have no clue what the fiancé said to her to have her organize everything & pay her part. Maybe they had a deal OP wasn't aware of.
Maybe she her being salty abt it is legitimate. If not it's an ESH but we only know for sure OP is an AH.
Who tf says "idgaf abt the price, I didn't pay anything lol"
Like if anything op is an AH to her bf. I feel like her whole convo to the organizer was pure lip service too while sliding a brag into it.
S1: Op should ask for their address and go after child support for himself.
OP #1 needs to find a lawyer who can get back child support
That will certainly keep those two busy bodies out of her life
Story 2: NTA. She's dishonest and untrustworthy. She chose her so-called "friends" over OP. Like hell she had no control.
So OP's GF is so spineless she's allowing herself to be pimped out to her friends? What a loser.
Also I'm calling bs on the peer pressure thing. I find it extremely less likely for these friends to be so hell bent ond making her cheat rather than the girlfriend asking for them to justify her shameful actions. Sure it could be, but at the end of the day it's still the girlfriend's responsibility to stay loyal
Yeah, I've been in bad company,and they always push drugs etc on you,but I've never heard of cheating. Like no one has tried to force me to cheat on my husband. I've been married for 22yrs,and no one could make me cheat. When I was younger I was stupid enough to try some drugs,but went no contact with all of them soon enough..
Story 1: that man REALLY D.A.R.V.O.'d the crap out of it. "I love my son so much but I walked out and won't pay for anything for him at all."
That woman and the kid are DELUSIONAL to think that the man isn't a freaken monster to his older kid.
my guess is someone needs money or a kidney
No kidding. He abandoned his kid, didn't pay child support, and supposedly left his kid with someone horrible. If what he said about her being ab usive was true, he should have gathered evidence and taken her to court.
Story 3: NTA. She's a gold digger and a boundary stomper. It was NOT rude to tell her to gtfo when she showed up uninvited. OP was absolutely right to end things when she did. He was an ATM to her, not a boyfriend with her spawn.
My dad always says I’m welcome at his house, and even I always send a message I’m popping by, I never pop by unannounced I find it rather rude
The woman cheated 100%, and she wanted to do it. Weeks of "pressuring" and she doesnt say a word to Op. Leaves to some cabin, doesn't say anything about it until Op finds out. Op asks her if anything happened, lies to his face. When she finally admits something, claims nothing serious happened. Deflects all blame from herself by saying she had no control over anything. Next she's going to say she let someone stick it in, but it's okay because he was wearing protection.
That other woman is probably a single mom for a reason. She sounds crazy and selfish, I'll bet she was putting in the work to appear sweet and nice while she was manipulating him. Went from "playfully" asking what Op was doing to getting serious when he stood his ground, stomped into his home all angry, and when she found nothing suddenly she's lovely and down for action? I would've drawn the line when her kids started acting the way they did, how a kid acts around their parent sometimes reflects what kind of person that parent is.
Mentioning that your partner paid for everything sounds like a totally normal thing to do. It's exactly what happened to Op: her partner paid for everything, she had no idea how much anything costs. It's not bragging at all, she literally just explained why she was unaware. Some people care more about the finances and want to know the numbers, others are fine as long as it's handled, there is no one way to deal with finances in a relationship and Op is allowed to let her partner deal with all the costs.
Even if she didn’t cheat she has shown she is untrustworthy by doing everything in the cheater handbook
#1 Its very strange how they keep pursuing him. They want something.
They want validation. They're doubtful of the deadbeat's story and are grasping at straws to prove that they weren't snookered by an emotional con artist.
1:00 When I get a Facebook Friend Request from someone I don't know and/or has no mutual friends, I ignore it completely.
If I were to refuse it, they could just re-request again, so I let it sit in my Request list, ignored.
Story 1. Send ghem the records and get a restraining order
Story 1: This guy is a hell of a con man to have convinced his whooah family that he's the victim in abandoning his child.
Even if he was 100% innocent their relationship needs to be on Op terms
OP saying "I dont know, I'm not paying" isn't bragging. It's being honest. Fiancé is just mad cuz now the bar has been set higher. From the sounds of it, this isn't the first time the lady who got mad has been expected to pay and maybe she's damn sick of it.
If the Fiancés is crashing out over a simple comment, there are more problems going on in that relationship.
Story 1: holy crap. The dad has really spun a tale, hasn't he? The obsessive persistence, combined with poor logic skills from the wife & daughter are dumbfounding. Yeah, OPs mom's abusive, that's why I never paid a cent in child support (?!) Sounds like we're heading towards restraining order time.
Story 2: 27 yr old GF buckles to "peer pressure" faster than a cheap lawn chair. Repeatedly. OP is not her therapist and it sounds like she needs at least 2 of them.
Story 3: Wow, that woman and her kids sounded like a swarm of locusts. Oh, and please shove your own children aside. Any combined house would be 8 kids! I'm sure if OP were foolish enough to marry her that he would be on the hook for +5 college funds, etc.
Story 1: The sperm donor spun a tale, but I would be very curious about the version he told the other family. Also, I would have taken the time to see they got the full details from OP's side - with specifics about court dates missed, child support not paid, etc.
Did he? Why doesn't he ask about proof from their side.. if i got abused i would make sure my ex couldn't find me either.. now op is aduld they can surpas op's mother and maybe they want to give the childsupport to op.. he doesn't know because he only listen to his mother.
@@paulinadeboer3604they have contact with op and aren't giving him the child support. Also it's illegal to withhold child support, so you can't just decide to hold onto it and give it to them later. Literally the child support is all you need to know that the dad is a POS, the court documents about him avoiding to pay it can be verified.
Simply check the records or file for back child support and everything is cleared, if the mother faked the documents about child support he won't have to pay op. But if he did (in this case sounds like he very much did not pay) owe back pay, the two harassing him will find out he was a pos.
The interpersonal fallout is a reflection of the other couple’s dynamics, not OP’s actions. I don’t think the YTA comments in the last story actually considered what OP said. There’s a difference between responding truthfully to a comment like, 'I’m sure you’re glad it’s so cheap split four ways,' by explaining she didn’t pay, and outright bragging that her boyfriend covered her portion of the trip.
Besides, if OP had said nothing - thus implying that she HAD paid for her portion, there would have later been fall-out when it came out (which such an innocuous thing would at some stage) that BF had paid for her. She would have then been accused of taking credit for the generosity of others. This is a no-win situation due to the attitudes of the other couple.
@@lexiburrows8127 Yeah, these are friends that OP and her bf can do without
Why is OP with this mooch of a single mother with four kids? She sees him as an ATM and if he marries her, his life will be hell. Get rid of the mooch!
Not the idiot on the last story. The fallout of not splitting it 4 ways is not her problem. Sharing that your boyfriend is treating you is not being braggy. Dear god 🙄 All those you’re the asshole comments are probably coming from cheap men who don’t want their partners expecting more out of them….the pay gap is real hunny, treat your woman!❤
Story 1- that last comment...... no he should file for back child support and not just threaten to do it
tell them "ok fine, I'll meet you at your house" take his address and sue for the child support he owns you, DONT tell them what you gonna do, surprise them
DAMN!! SHE IS JEALOUS!! She's jealous that her boyfriend paid for hers and her fiance split the cost!! PLUS!!She spent the rest of the trip trying to cozy up to them or rather her boyfriend! Plus the fiance should see that this is a red flag!🚩🚩
She's mad at him for something his friend did! I'm not saying she's a gold digger though!! Those people who called her a idiot must be in The Gold Diggers United Club!!
S1 - OP needs to sue for all back child support. The deadbeat may not be required to pay child support after the child turns 18 but he would still be on the hock for all child support in arrears.
they just don't know when to quit. The way they keep pushing their version of the story, even after you’ve made it clear you’re not interested, is seriously messed up. You owe them nothing. Stay strong and keep those boundaries firm.
Story 2: you can’t be serious about “peer pressure” when the only thing you get pressured into is cheating
The last story, oh my God, what is the big damned deal? So OP said she wasn't paying for her part, who the hell cares. And for the fiance to accuse her of discussing finances? Her saying she wasn't paying isn't her discussing finances. Maybe he should be a better fiance. OP should not apologise for his insecurities. If the fiancee is mad, it's at him not OP. And Reddit, they make it seem like OP committed a crime. OP did NOTHING wrong. OP is NTA but the fiance is.
Wtf, you should support her to cheat. Curious that peer pressure only relates to cheating.
Nope, peer pressure also relates to smoking, drugs, crimes etc, not just cheating.
He didn’t support her to cheat
@@KadeStringer2.0 did I say he did? No. I literally said wtf to supporting her cheating.
@@miss_mishactually the sentence you made, without the obvious vocal tones, implies that you do agree that he should’ve supported her.
A better way to rewrite the first sentence is “Wtf?! You should support her to cheat?” The added exclamation and question marks makes obvious to other readers of your reaction to the situation.
@vincentlucario5450 or you just listen to what was actually said in the story and understand I was repeating what was said.
The comments on the last story reek of jealousy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No parent that thinks their partner is abuse tucks and run. They stand and fight until their kid is safe. Ok he's using the excuse that leaving son was for son's safety, but not paying child support was supposed to help the kid how. A lot of abuse starts with a lack of myoney so if daddy dearest didn't pay his fair share that would put the child into danger if the partner was truly abusive?
Nah it happens alot especially if the child is a boy. Many domestic violence shelters don't allow boys over the age of 7 in
I'm have the same pile of useless child support nonsense. My son not impressed but when he needed his dad's social security number i found it in the file. So it turned out it was useful
15:32 why would it be “dimming her own light” to NOT make a statement of “i wouldn’t know, my Bf paid for me”? The question was “isn’t that a great deal?” 😂😂😂
Sounds like that last commenter is someone who walks around aggrandizing themselves and thinks that’s normal behavior.
The comments on the last story are crazy.
Good on OP for throwing in their face that he left his child behind with an abusive woman makes no absolutely no sense.
Last Story: "How you and your boyfriend spend your money has zero impact on their choices."
Except we just read a story where how they spend their money had 100% impact on the fiance's choices. It shouldn't, but it clearly does.
Ex sounds like a nightmare. She stomped over every boundary and ignored every sensible or social request. Block her and move on with therapy to spot these signs sooner in future.
Oh whatever, so she paid her own way. Clearly OP has a different agreement with her boyfriend.
Go after him for back child support. I bet they’ll drop contact when those papers show up.
"You're old enough to decide for yourself."
"Fine, I decide I want nothing to do with you."
"Nonotlikethat!"
Yo!!!!
Child support debt does NOT discharge when the child turns 18, so go get it. EVERY CENT. With interest.
Why not share information about what he was actually like?
Maybe because they won't believe him anyway (since they believe the cock & bull the father gave), and it is none of their business
S 1: OP needs t keep anything ugly they say about his mother and take them to court for slander (on mom's part) and harassment (on his). Then she can open the door to sue Ex for the child support.
S 3: OP needs to ask his own kids what they think of her and her kids. She would pull a complete Lady Tremaine. Wait till they were married start taking everything from his kids and bullying them. You can tell by what he's said, she'd blame everything her kids did on his children.
Love this channel but get invested in stories with no updates or resolution. Disappointing.
There is a channel called Lost genre stories that does finishes stories
@ thanks !
Agree. It's fun but Lost genre is the best!!!
First story: I can see 3 options as to why they'd hound Op this much, 1. Dad needs an organ and none of them is a match, 2. They need Op to forgive the outstanding child support, 3. Dad's dead and they're hoping Op will support them in his place. My response would to demand the outstanding child support as an act of good faith. Surly if dad is such a great guy that was robbed of his child, he'd want to make up for not being there right?
Story 1:
NTA!
I would have taken pictures of the court documents and sent them to them both.
Story 1: My mom did similar to OPs. Deadbeats are something else. Luckily no half siblings here.
Last story - NOT saying "it doesn't make difference since I'm not paying anyways" is not dimming your light. 😂😂😂
“ I decided to forgive her because.., in reality, I’m a spineless moron.” This prat actually thought the friends were the problem. Modern men😂 NTA for dumping her finally.
Cheating story - OP, You poor, naive summer child. She wasn't pressured. She WILLINGLY cheated and is lying about the peer pressure.
Story 1 even if Op dad was 100% innocent he wouldn’t get an relationship until Op is ready and no amount of pestering from half sister or her mother is going to change that
Story 2: Is…is Op’s gf 5…?
Why does Op need to constantly baby his cheating gf…?
Cause you know that if he demanded she cut contact with her toxic friends, those same people would call Op “toxic” and “controlling”.
This is ridiculous NTA Op
Befriend, get the address for back child support
So he has all the proofs dad was a deadbeat that owe two decades of child support and the interest - he has proof of that and that dad ran... And instead of exposing everything and explaining how they are the one who do not know the monster they live with... He just goes "leave me alone! Not listening! Lalalalalala"
Wow, op is... Unusually slow?
He didn't even try explaining, so yeah he kinda is the A. He escalates the situation instead of communicating why his dad is unworthy - it's like op just want more drama.
Story 3 r/AmItheDoormat. A real gentleman would date a real lady. Drop the gold digger and find a real lady.
Don't blame her kids; they're just following her example.
Story 3 Op dump her she has zero respect for you
Story 1 I'd send a picture of what dad owes in back child support to both with the message yep he is great dead beat that loved me so much he didn't support me at all. Also my mother has NEVER been abusive but I guess I can't expect my dead beat father to actually tell the truth and if you are dumb enough to believe him that is a YOU problem. I know that what he claims is nothing but a pack of lies.
Do people forget ESH is an option? Last story OP sucks for bragging about not having to pay and the friend sucks for being a petty golddigger. Both can be true at the same time.
I wouldn't call it bragging since OP was never asked to pay and didn't know the arrangement. She just told the truth. The other chick made a different deal and decided to ruin the trip because she's so entitled.
@@ruthsaunders9507 Yes. Even if the cost were split 4-ways (as the friend's fiancee stated), it does not immediately come to my mind that she meant each individual paid their own, and I would have stated the same since my bf had paid for my costs.
Story 1: NTA in the slightest . Cut your losses op.
Story 2: NTA and op isn’t wrong but thank God he ditched the witch .
Story one go to court and not to stop them from contacting but to sue father for child support that way they get to see that everything he made up was a lie and when he's paying all that back support he has to try to explain to them why he treated his oldest the way he did.