Hong Kong to open first TCM hospital in 2025, but why only now?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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    Hong Kong is set to open its first traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) hospital in 2025. Alternative medicine has had a steady stream of local supporters in the last century, but nowhere near the level seen of Western medicine in the former British colony. Misconceptions, lack of government support, as well as costs have both contributed to TCM’s stagnant popularity, while previous attempts to open a hospital were plagued by disagreements. A Covid-era government push, however, has led to more recent converts.
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  • @wmk4454
    @wmk4454 26 дней назад +22

    Why can't people just extract the chemical in TCM and just call it normal medicine?

    • @TeacherCarol-gy5ff
      @TeacherCarol-gy5ff 26 дней назад +15

      It is a complicated mixture of a variety of things which is tailored to each patioent. I became a believer when I first arrived in Hong Kong. My daughter was often sick for 9 months of the year. She had pneumonia 4 times. She had a horrible deep cough that kept her up at night. She was getting weaker and sicker. A new friend noticed and immediately we went to a TCM doctor. To this day, I have no idea what he gave her but after drinking the concoction my daughter had a restful sleep that night. She recovered quickly after after that never was so sick again. After reading in Pub Med the efficacy of TCM, I try to stay away from Western Medicine.

    • @kiwifruitkl
      @kiwifruitkl 26 дней назад +24

      The extraction is the problem.
      Extraction increases the purity of the chemical compound. Such a pure compound is not necessarily beneficial to the body because it may be too potent. Too strong. The chemical compound is not bound up to some other thing.
      Extraction is based on the assumption that the chemical compound alone works to treat X, Y, Z. In reality, it may be the combination of two or more compounds to create a certain effect on X, Y, Z.
      The same is true for anthocyanins. They are antioxidants, but it is best to take them in the form of red, purple and blue fruits and vegetables.
      So, in a way, Traditional Chinese Medicine is much more holistic than Western Medicine.

    • @GraniteInTheFace
      @GraniteInTheFace 26 дней назад

      ​@@kiwifruitklthis is the real answer

    • @FMFvideos
      @FMFvideos 25 дней назад +4

      Half of the things in TCM have no scientific base and is like "magic healing powder".

    • @jvp9703
      @jvp9703 25 дней назад

      Because that would be replicating Western medicine, which uses a "magic hammer" approach. Forceful and potent, but one dimensional and can severely affect the body's biochemistry balance. This is why Western medicine always comes with a big warning list of side effects.
      TCM utilizes multiple natural compounds in lower dosages over a longer period of time, so as not to upset the body, making it a more harmonious approach.

  • @jamesthorburn8118
    @jamesthorburn8118 23 дня назад +4

    TCM is not evidenced based

    • @JS-rm2ws
      @JS-rm2ws 14 дней назад

      @@jamesthorburn8118 TCM has been successfully used for longer than your country has been in existence. Come to think of it, longer than all anglo saxon countries combined. It doesn't cure ignorance though

    • @wynn3077
      @wynn3077 11 дней назад +1

      @@JS-rm2wsAnd still doesn’t work.

  • @user-rh6ru5oz2o
    @user-rh6ru5oz2o 25 дней назад +5

    How much of it can stand up to randomized double blind studies?

    • @JS-rm2ws
      @JS-rm2ws 14 дней назад

      @@user-rh6ru5oz2o TCM has been in use for longer than your country has been in existence.

  • @tidusfantasy
    @tidusfantasy 25 дней назад +4

    i think TCM works for some people but not so much on some people. Over the years, i dont recall anytime it fixed my illness, but for my other family members, they work like wonder and magic. So it's really dependent how well the patients react to TCM

    • @anguianoalan100
      @anguianoalan100 24 дня назад +1

      A lot has to do with you if you followed the doctors recommendations and if you told your doctor everything as our bodies interconnected

  • @jimwhite1756
    @jimwhite1756 26 дней назад +15

    This is great news for HK.

  • @DarilUki
    @DarilUki 25 дней назад +2

    The price of TCM drugs in my country is very expensive

  • @marktn9851
    @marktn9851 5 дней назад

    HK should first start a medical research University on TCM. If done correctly, everything else should grow organically from there.

  • @lecheffantome2868
    @lecheffantome2868 25 дней назад +7

    what are they gonna do? give you ginseng if you're having a heart attack 😂

    • @blessingsoutlaw
      @blessingsoutlaw 25 дней назад

      Like allopathic medicine works all the time on every condition. Its just a bunch of antibiotics anyway.

  • @MrVontar
    @MrVontar 26 дней назад +9

    TCM is only medicine that has been combined over and over in different ways until it kind of works on a patient. It obviously should be analyzed to ensure each ingredient is working as it should and will ensure the health of the patient

    • @trueseeker262
      @trueseeker262 26 дней назад

      They are standard medicine, the only reason is the West and bankers control Hong Kong money.

    • @jesuswasasocialist4349
      @jesuswasasocialist4349 26 дней назад

      Google " Kitty Xu Ting"

  • @KEZAMINE
    @KEZAMINE 26 дней назад +8

    Medicine from 1500's? Yeah id like to invest 1000000 pls

    • @audreydupuy2628
      @audreydupuy2628 22 дня назад

      Actually, it's medicine that's lasted for thousands of years.....people would've stopped using it if it wasn't effective

  • @chenghonggoh4746
    @chenghonggoh4746 26 дней назад +13

    This is something Sg can learn.

  • @shin4655
    @shin4655 26 дней назад +10

    Just wonder how the Health Insurance works there ? They acknowledge and cover it too ?

    • @alileevil
      @alileevil 26 дней назад +4

      They do it in the United States, so I am assuming insurance covers this in China.

    • @AlejandroPikoulasPlata
      @AlejandroPikoulasPlata 26 дней назад +2

      ​@@alileevilyes it does.

    • @ThePaulz80
      @ThePaulz80 26 дней назад

      I assumed TCM opened in Hong Kong, China which means technically patient covered with insurance but doubt Western companies would do the same coverage

    • @ThePaulz80
      @ThePaulz80 26 дней назад +1

      ​​@@alileevilNot all TCM covered in US especially in Mid West, Florida, Texas, South Dakota, North Dakota, Arizona, and Eastern seaboard as far I recalled.

    • @demsyciu
      @demsyciu 25 дней назад

      ​@@alileevilwait.. The insurance cover it in the US but not in asia?.. That's so backward isn't it? especially to consider that insurance is mainly a "western thing" and TCM is from the east but the eastern itself don't recognize to cover it in the insurance

  • @terencetong4896
    @terencetong4896 26 дней назад +5

    This is bounded to have some problems

  • @PengyBoi111
    @PengyBoi111 26 дней назад +1

    hi

  • @xynovitch255
    @xynovitch255 26 дней назад +7

    Philippines take notes 📝

    • @loreleifajardo2430
      @loreleifajardo2430 26 дней назад +1

      We have tcm here in binondo. Much better than tcm in other countries.

    • @xynovitch255
      @xynovitch255 26 дней назад

      @@loreleifajardo2430 Your binondo medicine is a weakling.

    • @xynovitch255
      @xynovitch255 26 дней назад

      @@loreleifajardo2430 Your Binondo medicine is weak, just like your President.

    • @pamguevara9237
      @pamguevara9237 24 дня назад

      ​@@loreleifajardo2430Dr Tan... Tried and tested.

  • @JS-rm2ws
    @JS-rm2ws 25 дней назад +3

    this is wonderful news. Why was TCM relegated to a secondary medicine for so long? When I was a kid, growing up in the UK, western medicine could not effectively treat nor cure my eczema. We found a TCM specialist here in Glasgow, and his treatments were effective at removing pretty much all of my eczema symptoms

    • @KJ_2020
      @KJ_2020 25 дней назад

      why is it a secondary medicine? because nobody is going to run to the TCM hospital if there is a genuine emergency.

    • @JS-rm2ws
      @JS-rm2ws 25 дней назад

      @@KJ_2020 emergency medicine and A&E is only one category of medicine. When you have eczema so bad it bleeds, A&E isn't where you go for help

    • @Cosmo1093
      @Cosmo1093 23 дня назад

      Because the TCM that has been clinically proven to work is just called "medicine". It's how bear bile became UDCA and how sweet wormwood became DCA. The rest has been regarded as a "secondary medicine" because nobody has proven whether they're any better or worse than placebos.

  • @wynn3077
    @wynn3077 26 дней назад +10

    Didn’t the Chinese swimmers blame TCM for their positive drug results.

    • @wynn3077
      @wynn3077 25 дней назад

      @@ToiChutGongWu Thanks for supporting me 😂

  • @caitthecat
    @caitthecat 26 дней назад +14

    TCM hospital? What's next, a homeopathy birth center?

    • @AlejandroPikoulasPlata
      @AlejandroPikoulasPlata 26 дней назад +5

      You don't know how TCM works....

    • @MudThought
      @MudThought 26 дней назад +9

      @@AlejandroPikoulasPlata and how it works? does it have rigorous drugs research and peer reviewed papers?

    • @fungj4126
      @fungj4126 26 дней назад +2

      @@MudThought Trust me, dude

    • @BuzzKirill3D
      @BuzzKirill3D 24 дня назад +1

      @@AlejandroPikoulasPlata yeah, and neither do the -quacks- TCM "practitioners"

    • @Cosmo1093
      @Cosmo1093 23 дня назад +1

      @@AlejandroPikoulasPlata It doesn't matter "how" TCM works, because the stuff that has been proven to work (better than a placebo) is just called "medicine". For example, bear bile was developed into UDCA and sweet wormwood was developed into DCA.

  • @Sezgin_Erol
    @Sezgin_Erol 26 дней назад +9

    6:19 This is the main point. Western medicine focus on the symptoms and after the treatment you are alone with the root causes of the symptoms.

    • @caitthecat
      @caitthecat 26 дней назад +6

      😂That's definitely not true. What do you think western medicine is???

    • @johnsilver9338
      @johnsilver9338 26 дней назад

      Not really. Lots of herbal supplements are also produced in the US. But they are more similar to Indian Aryuveda, middle eastern and some pre-colonial American herbalism than compared to Chinese traditional medicine. Things like Spirulina, Chlorella, Moringa, Turmeric, Flaxseeds, Chia seeds, Coconut and MCT oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Chamomile tea, Peppermint tea, even essential oils etc...

    • @ayejay8862
      @ayejay8862 26 дней назад

      @@johnsilver9338 Obviously the top post is talking about conventional western medicine.

    • @jesuswasasocialist4349
      @jesuswasasocialist4349 26 дней назад +1

      Illness isn't caused by imbalances, cold /hot winds, or disruptions of energy flows. We've known this for over a century now

    • @Sezgin_Erol
      @Sezgin_Erol 25 дней назад

      @@caitthecat tell me the truth genius 😂

  • @MsOceanstar
    @MsOceanstar 25 дней назад +4

    I totally believe and support TCM treatment. Chinese herbs have No major bad side effects as compared to western drugs. TCM is organic and restorative!

    • @KJ_2020
      @KJ_2020 25 дней назад +1

      would you also support marijuana stalls in HK for the same reason?

    • @MsOceanstar
      @MsOceanstar 25 дней назад +1

      @@KJ_2020 Don’t be ridiculous!

    • @Cosmo1093
      @Cosmo1093 23 дня назад +1

      @@MsOceanstar How is it ridiculous? Marijuana was one of the "herbs" used by by Emperor Shennong, the "father of TCM", some 4800 years ago.

  • @melodyparra2960
    @melodyparra2960 26 дней назад +2

    As long as it doesn’t hurt the person or include critically, endangered plants and animals doesn’t involve the poaching Inhumane treatment and doesn’t trick people into showing out thousands of dollars do what you want when you can’t find other sources of help like the acupuncture I can go with that

  • @misterpositive9337
    @misterpositive9337 25 дней назад +1

    China should just keep the knowledge a secret. No need to share them with other countries who doesn't understand, appreciate, or believe in the 1500 year wisdom behind Chinese medicine.

    • @mudshovel289
      @mudshovel289 25 дней назад +1

      This stuff has already been spread around the world by Chinese immigrants 😂. You really think there is anything in Chinese culture that is still a secret that only China possesses in the year 2024? 🤣

    • @wynn3077
      @wynn3077 21 день назад

      It’s completely fake medicine .

  • @jesuswasasocialist4349
    @jesuswasasocialist4349 26 дней назад

    Zhongyi shi Fangpi

    • @jye7027
      @jye7027 25 дней назад

      jesus is whiteman fairy tales

  • @Inepressiera
    @Inepressiera 26 дней назад +13

    Snakeoil salesmen

    • @trueseeker262
      @trueseeker262 26 дней назад +3

      Like the covid vaccine?

    • @gurok2
      @gurok2 26 дней назад +3

      Well, snake oil may be one thing they sell. Snake oil is after all, a kind of TCM.

    • @jye7027
      @jye7027 25 дней назад

      that is marcos expertise

    • @centerrightpunk
      @centerrightpunk 25 дней назад

      ​@@trueseeker262 Sinovac?

  • @Hkchinese888
    @Hkchinese888 26 дней назад +16

    腦子灌水

    • @AbuShivaToyib
      @AbuShivaToyib 26 дней назад +7

      Yes, like your mom said

    • @lessparks8553
      @lessparks8553 26 дней назад

      I don't feel the hate there yet

    • @Hkchinese888
      @Hkchinese888 26 дней назад +8

      @@AbuShivaToyib Your mum is the keeper in the massage parlour

    • @SunTzuExpress999
      @SunTzuExpress999 26 дней назад +3

      Then why don’t you do better job instead of bashing scmp daily SINCE YOU ARE A TRUE HONG KONGER GO BENEFIT AND CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR CITY TO MAKE BETTER THEN LAH 💀🇭🇰

    • @Hkchinese888
      @Hkchinese888 26 дней назад +5

      @@SunTzuExpress999 why do you expect someone to have to contribute?

  • @SingleDaddyDean
    @SingleDaddyDean 26 дней назад +3

    Why would you want it to be governed by Western practices?

    • @supremacy2040
      @supremacy2040 26 дней назад +2

      Because it’s a sudo science that can’t prove that you can actually use it as an only cure.
      Chinas revolution killed off the knowledge a they went Marxist and pandered to Soviet rule, they even wanted to give up their written language for a romanised version.
      So they have no proof that TCM works.
      Traditional medicine should partner western meds, there’s no proof it’s better

    • @TeeHee-vo1bn
      @TeeHee-vo1bn 25 дней назад

      Because western medicine is science based and TCM is placebo.

  • @jonathanrodriguez8219
    @jonathanrodriguez8219 26 дней назад

    I actually prefer Korean acupuncture than Chinese acupuncture, it works for me, don't know why.

  • @michaelbyz23
    @michaelbyz23 26 дней назад

    @jasonleong

  • @centerrightpunk
    @centerrightpunk 25 дней назад +2

    😂 TCM is junk science