The SHOCKING Truth About Today's Sports Card Hobby!
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- 📈 The CURRENT STATE Of The Sports Card Hobby! 📉
In today's video, we're diving deep into the current state of the sports card hobby! From skyrocketing prices to market crashes, we're covering everything you need to know to stay ahead in this ever-changing landscape. Whether you're a seasoned collector or just getting started, this is a must-watch!
Intro 0:00 - 0:52
WhatNot 0:53 - 6:34
Repackers 6:35 - 8:59
Buying & Comps 9:00 - 15:42
Announcements 15:43 - 21:49
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Impact of recent events on card values 📉
Predictions for the future of the hobby 🔮
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As someone new to the hobby here is a few of my observations.
1. There are way too many flippers and not enough collectors. Everyone wants to buy at 65-85% comps. Not enough forever homes. People always use ebay comps but do not add tax and shipping to that $100 card making it a $110 purchase for a buyer. I understand they take a fee but wanting a % off after the fees seems crazy to me. Had a guy say well it sells for $100 they take 12% which is now an $88 and I buy at 80% off that.
2. Some sellers are easy to work with and some are not. I will not even look at cards and tables where they do not have prices. I wasted more time at shows asking how much are these cards or just trying to look up a bunch to see what price range they are. I’m newer and we have one small card shop in my town I’m not well versed on having a sense of the price.
3. Too many vendors look angry. Not many tables are smiling and having a good time. I get that you may be having a long day or may not like to smile but it makes me want to skip tables. They may be the nicest person you know but if they do not look approachable I do not even want to stop as a new person to the hobby.
I agree that an 'ebay' comp should include at least taxes - if not shipping
Very opinionated for someone “new” to the hobby…
That 3 observation I agree a hundred percent with too many angry sellers and just rude people in the hobby doesn’t make you want to buy anything from them. Most of the times is from them thinking you not gonna buy anything either ways so they don’t even try it’s ridiculous.
Yeah I agree too many used car salesman types that have this either buy my overpriced stuff or leave me alone look on their face.
The angry ones are only in it for the money, most of them are felons that cant get a real job and bleed into the hobby with their shady and scamming tactics . This is a hobby and most hobbies cost money they do not make money. You got it right, just walk right past them.
Whatnot and fanatics live are poison for the hobby
And the hobby will grow more as immune over time.
all those breakers do is cry and beg for bids to get bid up
I love what, it’s like a online casino but for cards.
@@reivang7196 an over seas rigged casino. 🤣
No doubt
34M here. Started January ‘23 because i got COVID and was really obsessed with Scottie Barnes and the 2021 draft class. Ripping is the gateway. I burned a lot of money and a lot of the cards I bought were a form of retail therapy and coping from some BS from work/home. In the end, many cards I bought/bid on are worth less than what I bought them for. But no regrets, I continue to buy after a year of experience and collecting cards is a hobby that will stick with me for a while. Im happy I have the discretionary income to collect and I hope more people will join the hobby(I get times are hard rn). Don’t make the mistake of trying to flip cards like I did. The key is to always buy what you love.
I feel like most of the people in the hobby are only in it for the money and not because they are collectors and love the hobby. And I've noticed that a lot of breakers don't even know anything about the players or sports period which is crazy af to me!
Congrats on the 100k and the new business ventures! You guys e going to crush anything you touch! Lootbox TV to the moon!
Thank you, brother! Hitman Rips is up next!
Whatnot is off-putting when I go to streams and the people don't know anything about the sports they're selling or pronounciation of players
Can’t stand this either when ppl rip on RUclips
Happens on RUclips sometimes as well. Your job is to rip these products, you should know more about them than I do.
My favorite is watching "top 10 pulls of the week" and seeing all the breakers hit 1 of 1's, having no idea it's a 1 of 1 until they finally see it stamped...
I believe the prices on whatnot go for higher than ebay and other auction sites because most people tend to FOMO into a card
I call it WhatFnNot!!
Think they're part of what's ruining the hobby.
What does Fomo mean ??
@@YaboyElowsCards
Fear of missing out
To me FMO makes more sense in that sentence. 😂
Leave out the of. 👍
I agree. You have to also consider the social aspect of Whatnot. The big boys put on a real show. They think they’re celebrities and people in chat calling them legends and overpaying because of it. It can be kinda cultish. And from my experience, the bigger the room, the more hype men there are, the less I can trust them. I’ve just seen too much dishonesty in terms of comps. So I avoid the big boys and breaks for the most part. I stick with smaller sellers for singles. There are really good sellers in the app. But I wouldn’t consider those big buys good sellers.
I buy from eBay so I can check comps and think about the purchase. Whatnot is for the breaks to take a shot in the dark to hit big. I'm not a fan of single card purchases due to the limited time to look up comps. I go to Ebay for my PC cards. That's just me.
100 percent agree with you
And CONGRATS on the RUclips silver play button award!! 🎉👏
Prices are up on WhatNot more due to (imo) because alot of buyers are just happy to buy from whoever is running the auctions
Congrats guys! Great news! Junyah & I look forward to meeting you guys in Cleveland!
Congratulations guys! Love your channel and looking forward to more content!
Wishing you guys much luck in your endeavors and look forward to your content. Good stuff!
Because most auctions on whatnot run at a minute or less, it doesn’t give people the time to look into comps on the cards they are bidding on and may think it’s more valuable than it is. I could be completely wrong but that’s the vibe I get from it. I still prefer ComC and eBay especially for the documenting of “comps”
I’m glad we will see more content in the future. You two are the best. With your channel and your celebrity status within the hobby, you would rake on Whatnot.
Congrats guys. Been here from the beginning. You guys are what the hobby needs, you are transparent and truth tellers. I will continue to support.
Great conversation guys! I think repacks are so popular is because you're guaranteed to hit something giving you a higher floor unlike a random team or PYT break where you can strike out completely.
Dude if you start streaming, you are going to kill it! You could do one show a week. 1 hour a week
Streaming/live/shorts SUCK IMO.
Those of us that have real jobs just can't do that 💩
Do you watch rgl?
@@roychisnell9646
Used to. I don't anymore.
Congrats Fellas. Looking forward to watching your journey.
Great conversation and congrats on 100K fellas!
Congrats on the 100K!!! awesome work! I cant wait to see whats in store in the future
I went to Heroescon and I had the same experience too with whatnot sellers running rampant and live-streaming was everywhere. They would get books signed and then go to an empty table and immediately auction them off on whatnot. The whole thing was really shocking to me.
I’m enjoying the hobby. I sell cards on the side sometimes to justify buying new packs. Great content.
Good info and insight. Congrats on the new opportunities.
Most of the channels ive been on whatnot have a replay the next day. Ive nailed some bangers on there. I would much rather go to a card show. Here in Montana we only have a couple a year.
Sheeesh! new video! still waiting on Juice to give me some of them base cards :P:P:P
I just found your channel, great info and grats on the 100k follower plaque.
That silver play button would look so good in that back ground display cabinet right there! Gratz fellas!
You guys are awsome in every way🙏 Congratulations to both of you, well deserve👍🤩🤩
Been watching since pokemon like a ton of your audience. Love to hear you both making big fun moves!
I dont recall the exact #s but when I heard that something like 85% of all the unique cards ever produced were made in the last 3 years of the hobby then I knew this was a total disaster in the making.
Outstanding!
Congrats on the plaque!! So sick 🔥
I been in for a while and i do enjoy see silver prizm strouds going for hundreds when at the end of the day it sounds to me its alot of new collectors that havent seen a market fluxuation yet .The i dont do comps is usually the people buying the wrong stuff or right stuff too long and not capitalizing on their inventory of stuff.Good video from one seasoned vet to another!
I’m very new to the hobby and have met some great people on whatnot who have helped me out so much most of the channels are people who actually care about this hobby and the people buying. It’s also much more convenient shipping imo compared to eBay
As someone who has been around since 93'
WhatFnNot SUCKS!!
Part of what is ruining the hobby
@@srjwildcat3589 that’s your opinion I don’t mess with the major pages on there only about 2 people I buy from that are good dudes.
@@srjwildcat3589 I totally agree the worst thing to come to this hobby as far as thease guys saying whatnot selling high I seen videos of people buying 1/1 s for literally $2 bucks and its mostly sellers selling to sellers
Personal account bidding is Definitely a problem. People bid up cards early in the auction to get it more seen.
Wassup fellas, great breakdown of the state of the hobby, as usual! I think whatnot sellers are such a pain in the ass to deal with. I've only used it a handfull of times, but the prices even base cards fetch are WAY to high. influencers with thousands of viewers always sell their crap for 10x to 20x the price because so many people are bidding and there's a sense of "value" added because they bought them from someone "famous". for example, a bigger name selling a Wemby base prizm for $200. they hype up the card so much during the auction based on what they THINK they know and not based on comps or pricing history, and some newer collectors trust that advice. then these guys turn around and sell on ebay or at shows and their prices are way too high because thats what THEY paid and they feel entitled to the profits.
I saw your short and i agree, i feel like comping cards is dead, i was recently at a show and got yelled at by several vendors for looking up comps because i didn't feel the price was even remotely close. then i read their business card and find out they have a whatnot shop.
WhatFnNot SUCKS
The minute people crawl in bed with them, I'm out.
WhatNot has a convenience factor. You are in a stream, decide to buy something auctioned, and then can jist keep adding to your "pile" as the stream continues and shipping costs are the reduced. Repacks suck but a lot of people love to buy into those. It's worse than breaking or opening new boxes/packs. It's wholly impractical for profitablity, which so many are affixed to in the hobby. Just buy the cards you want and let someone else take the risk on hits/misses. Too many mouths to feed in the process.
Looking forward to the long form content! Personally would love to see some day to day vlog type stuff as well!
Yeah Juice!! You need to get on there. I recently added ya. Get some Reggie Miller cards..I’m a buyer #WHATNOT
I have over 200 Reggie Miller cards including rookies.
Congrats on the plaque! A lot of hard work that you get to show off now.
Congrats! I'm still trying to get to 2k....
Congrats guys on the 100,000 followers!
I’ve been collecting since early 1979. I was 8 years old. I collected it all then. Maybe started earlier if you count my Star Wars and Kiss Cards which I still have. I’ve collected non stop since. Seen it all and bought it all. I could go on with what I got but just wanna say I appreciate you guys doing a post for new collectors to the game! It’s good to see good guys in the game!!
Congratulations gentlemen, you guys rock 🥃🤙🏻
good morning sir im your number 1 fan in the Philippines 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Also to Juices point, you can ask ebay sellers the same questions
Congrats on 100K!
I jumped into SkyB’s whatnot and saw his sales. The comps were not like way above what you can get on eBay. Crazy thing to me is the sheer quantity of sales he acquired in such a short time. If you want to move your inventory, whatnot seems like a good route.
Proud of you guys!
Start a podcast!!!
I just went to the Charlotte Card Show this weekend and for a small venue 200 plus tables, it was so much fun. Lot's of trading, selling and not too much flipping. I do buy cards to sell on WhatNot, but my margins are minimal - I want to sell, educate and get people into soccer - that is what I focus on. In addition, I use WhatNot as a Podcast and talk soccer and educate people. See you guys at the Nationals
Congrats 100,000🎉🎉🎉
It pisses us all off when people list cards for 100000% over comps. You are right and I agree they are your cards and you entitled to ask what you please, but it’s ridiculous when people do that.
Congrats!
I think repacks are the best value. The cost of wax versus singles sales isn't anywhere close to being good. When you'd join a break in 2018........if you hit any RPA, you made money. Now you have to hit something super rare of the right player to even break even. Now with repacks you obviously don't have a shot at hitting a monster.......but I do feel overall you have a better chance at getting vale back for your money.
thanks for the app guys congrats
Congrats on being able to do this full time.
Congrats guys pretty much the only guys that actually tell it how it is in the card market and don’t try to sell you some bullshit. Keep up the great work great things are coming your way
Huge congrats!!🎉🎉🎉🎉 gold play bottom next!
Appreciate the deals as always guys!
Would love to see you on Whatnot. As someone who has always tried to provide a positive experience for buyers on the platform to offset the negative ones we need more sellers like yourself. Love the discussion about Whatnot - my best take for new or existing users on Whatnot is to view it just like in person show or a LCS, find the ones who you trust and can work with and avoid the ones you can’t.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
love the content!
congrats guys
great work on collectr
Congrats on 100k
I haven't bought any singles on whatnot, but it's good to know how you can ask the condition of cards live. On eBay, I feel like every time I ask for the condition of the card, the seller tells me to look at the pictures, but there's only so much you can see in a picture...
I’m glad I never got into whatnot
I knew it was fishy when they pushed influencers hard to market it
Fanatics is doing it with everything, anyone with a small following can be paid to market/advertise for product or services
Congrats broders Silver Button lets go to the gold.....
Love you too congratulations🎉
Congrats
AWESOME VIDEO!!! ⚾️🔥🏈🔥🏀🔥
Appreciate it!!
Its because once you put your info in whatnot its easy to keep swiping on cards you like and since you can't check comps during sudden death auctions its not hard to over pay...and the competition of bidding against other people to win the auction makes it easy to pay more than you normally would
I’m a gambling addict who has self banned from casinos and I thought whatnot was just like a simple store type thing but after like 2 days I blew 2000 dollars on there. The breaks are extremely addicting.
Loves the juiced up
Congrats my guy
Congrats on 100K!
Idk why there are haters in the comments here. I think you guys put out good content and I appreciate the work you put into these videos.
I think whatnot is the future for the hobby, if you want to flip cards and collect . Little higher but people share the hobby from the couch in there own house!
People start auctions with only like 15 seconds, you don’t have time to check eBay for comps, people want the card then will bid up a card because they want it. Also, there is a handful of these bigger streamers who will have someone in there bidding up cards.
I dove in head first into collecting sports cards this year. Mostly retail rips and a few ebay purchases. Found myself bored on a sunday and ended up spending $150 on 3 breaks and didn't pull a single card even though i was charged 20$ for shipping? Made me sick to my stomach and I deleted the app shortly after. Whatnot sucks.
Whatnot has a lot of shill bidding for sure but man people are buying into some overpriced breaks, it’s insane.
It's also the gamble from the repack. You buy in cheap and have chance hitting a big card! It's the gamble!
Where do you reccomend people or myself to list cards for sale and which security feature should we select?
You guys are smarter than this. These guys are bidding up their own cards in the back groung until their comfortable with the price.
EXACTLY 💯
They need to start watching AIH Sports and other channels.
Relax, hence why I asked the question, I truly don't know. Share a link of a video talking about this with proof and I'll watch.
I like AIH stuff!
@@LootboxTVreviews
Hey Juice 👋
@LootboxTVreviews bro u guys are deep u guys all talk u know what goes on and why and the fact that all these tubers that have money sell and buy from eachother it's not realistic and his a bad taste to be putting in the future gen devaluing high end cards cause u guys through them around like there plain Jane's.
@@moistcloud2679 This is the stupidist thing I have ever read. We 100% DO NOT ALL TALK.
What RUclipsrs are you talking about? Who's Money? Are you talking about me? Please respond without a massive run-on sentence so I can understand you.
You can definitely re watch all shows on what not.
The reason stuff sells for more on whatnot is because of the instant bids. Ebay is too slow and degens like me bidding at the last second is half the thrill...until I see my bank account at the end of each session!
I like eBay auctions. They go really quick and it’s something I’ve been comfortable with. Whatnot, everyone seems to use giveaways to attract an audience.
Congratulations to you both and wish you the best on the investments you guys have made and keep making, but remember and don't forget to always be real and stay humble. Deuces..
Card shows are full of card owners that have no intention to actually sell off a big part of their inventory… they are usually just there to show off their collection and flex their big cards. If you go to the same show a few times you will notice a few of them just like to run a table for those reasons.
Main thing with what not is the eye Appeal and the no time to do research on comps, if you think a card looks good you assume a price that is usually incorrect
Juice if you purchase something on whatnot I'm pretty sure u get a vod of the break
I think the biggest things I've seen on Whatnot is this.
A. You have extremely big dawg breakers and sellers.
B. You have Card shops both big and small.
C. You have every day small time guys.
I think one of the biggest issues I have is when all of the above run a "big card " sometimes starting at a dollar and it doesnt meet there expectations of what they think it'll go for. Its the old line "its only worth what someone will pay for it". An don't dare bring up recent comps to them or they lose there minds. One way I've seen it done semi successful is a guy on there who runs singles auctions twice a week lists every single card thats up for auction that day and you can pre bid on them. That way if you want to look up recent sales etc put the amount you feel comfortable with and dont go over. That being said a lot of the time when I've checked comps on cards for that show. A lot of whats bought is directly from ebay. So 90-95% of the cards are going for above what he bought them for. So then it becomes a matter of is it a card you really want, and areyou willing to bid over the last comp.
Cards go for higher on Whatnot because of FOMO. People see the card, and bid more to make sure they get it.
The Dallas Card show is the same way. About 10% of people are there to actually sell cards. The others are there to feel good about themselves.
Dobrý 👍
Whatnot sellers takes advantage of new people to the hobby… Also whatnot is in the moment spending where users don’t have time to research what they are buying. Id hate to see you sell out your values and go to Whatnot…
That is very true! They try to get new people to join by giving them $10 if you're a first time buyer. I have never liked Whatnot and probably never will. Once I start hearing about Whatnot or hearing someone say they will be on whatnot selling at a certain time or going to a card show to buy cards for a whatnot card show, I IMMEDIATELY shut off!
Dont gamble on repacks. Id rsther get a crappy box from the store than get skewed by some guy that thibks he deserves profit for bagging cards and randomizing them.
Ive been finding joy in huntingvvalue boxes looking for eye popping stuff and then listing them on ebay. Some the stuff you see is just so unique and interesting art to look at.
Repacks and whatnot are feasting on the younger and less informed collecting crowd.
Juice, on whatnot?! 🤯 sheeeeesssh. Buy my cards and sell them! 😂
I feel like the fees on whatnot are higher than ebay so the higher price youd get may be balanced out by that. Idk just a thought
Left what not in early 2022….too addictive & too shady