I own one of the very early versions of a Laser 2, which is larger but shares many features. I do up alternate toggles holding the inner to the fly, this allows a bigger gap between the two. The pegs needed replacing then too. Agreed about the wind speeds vulnerabilty, had to collapse the tent and sleep in a shed on Canna. It does need to be pitched on flat ground, not sloping, and only in sheltered or still conditions, but I still use mine after 16 years. You need to know the limits and the best way to use it. On Tiree the campsite owners let us pitch in the barn, bizarre feeling but very practical. I have no leaks or rips in the bathtub, but I also added a footprint. I set up the fly and inner together, a very useful feature. Storage under the fly is good, there is just enough room to cook closed up, but I avoid this if possible. Only one small rip in the inner, due to careless packing, with a gaffer tape repair. I agree about the condensation issues, an hour of ventilation before packing is needed, although if packed away wet, when re-erected it is usually dry enough inside for use in 10-15 mins. Very good weight and length, I have never got wet from the rain in it, but it has limitations.
do you have any tips regarding the doors ? One thing that annoys me is that when attaching the fly sheet to the inner tent using the toggle, i often end up wet. Either rain water or condesation will drip of the fly sheet and into the inner tend, have you found this too? do you have any ideas or solutions, i've actually started taking a microfibre cloth to wipe the door before i use it now. Any tips appreciated.
I have the Competition 2 and only really used it in anger on one bike packing trip a couple of years ago (got mine for £235!!) Used in late July but still suffered from overnight condensation. I have since treated both inner and outer to a spray of water proofing to see if it makes any difference. Hoping any water build up will simply bead and run down rather than collect. Hoping to get out post covid lockdown.
+KennethKramm Thanks Ken, I am sure this tent would be fine for a winter camp in TX but it is not quite upto the rigours of high level camping in the UK. I am on the lookout for a cost effective mountain tent for winter use now:)
Deciding whether or not to buy this tent or the Nordisk Svalbard for windy conditions versus weight considerations ...I simply decided I'm happy to carry the extra weight of the Nordisk for two reasons: [1] Not doing any mountain marathons ever soon and [2] because it can withstand wind at Hurricane levels. I never want to be caught in a mountain or beach scenario again with my tent being shredded by the wind in the middle of a stormy night....so thanks for your honest review ...... keep them coming!
That was pretty exhaustive and complete review. Thank you for the time and effort, it was appreciated. I would have liked to hear how the venting option shown in the Terra Nova video would have worked out to control the condensation however. I have a North Face tent which i added a loop to, so that I could adjust the spacing and get more flow between the inner and outer tent layers. That has been effective.
Although I don't do tents normally, I found this review interesting and honest. So many youtubers are now doing reviews about gear they may not have used previously and/or have been sponsored in some way, perhaps a freebie in the post asking to do an "honest" review and can keep the item, how can this be an honest and impartial review?. Since my channel has grown I'm getting interest from company's wanting me to promote their products and have declined. I would only recommend a product I own or believe in. Keep it organic keep it real, ATB, Damian.
Thank you for posting up an honest revue, I have looked at so many tents that were within my budget but all had a compromise, I always came back to this one, two man compact , still to set up and use it , I know it will have its own issues but the weight saving alone was a big selling point for me , thank you 👍
I really appreciate your honesty, and the way you detailed every component of this tent. Also, you seem to take very good care of your equipment. You've been out many times in this tent and it still looks brand new! Thank you for sharing. All the best, Stella
+Wiltshire Man I saw that video today where your tent failed on Tryfan (sp?) in Wales. I'm glad you were able to repair it. That trip looked like such a challenge and so much fun with your companions. All the best--Stella
A true review, that rhymes. Very good thanks, Ive just bought one 2nd hand and waiting for it to be delivered - this has helped a lot. Good to see tent reviews by users.
Great review and I am glad you covered a lot of the variables that go into the design of this type of equipment. The people that truly go out and put their gear to varying tests will appreciate your insights. I often get the comment that the gear I review is too expensive but as you pointed out their are many ways to make something less or more expensive and the key is to not ask it to do more than it is designed to do. I do know you had many great adventures in that tent. So raise a glass of brandy and salute it, it was a faithful friend until it could protect you no more. Take care Bruce
A very fair and objective review Sandy. For what it's worth, I've owned four Terra Nova tents over the years :- - Quasar Superlite - Bombproof mountain tent, too heavy for solo use - Solar - Their first 1-man tent. Not a really successful design - Voyager - Great 2-man tent, too heavy for one. - Voyage Superlite - Excellent design. Room for two, light enough for one. Build quality was First Class on all of them. The Solar fairly soon disappeared from the list but the others are classics and still available. Best wishes, as ever, Noel
+Noel Adams I will have to do some research Noel. I will be buying a new stronger tent for Winter only use some time soon. After I have built a few more knives though!
I prefer the Hilton Junior Executive Suite tent. it works well in all sorts of inclement weather. The thing I like most about it is that when it's teaming with rain at 2am you can still order a burger, chips and beer without getting wet nor cold.
Thanks for the honest, long term user review. I'm looking for my first (one person) tent and getting proper information like this is vital so I don't waste my money.
Good review Sandy. I too have a terra nova , an old trisar when it was the baby brother to a quasar and made by Wild Country before bought over by Terra Nova. It's 22 years old and cost £170 way back then! It's the best 2 man tent I have ever owned and a semi geodesic so has stood up to whatever Scotland can throw at it from high winds driving rain and heavy snow. It did have a lifetime warrenty but not sure how long they class that as but so far no problems. I would go onto the web site and give them a call. Great bunch to deal with as have bought other stuff and very helpful.They should be able to make any repairs. I did a lot of research before buying as wanted a large vestibule, able to sit up and sleep 2 and this fitted the bill for a couple of long distance walks. If it ever dies I will cry but the quasar would be my next choice! I do also have a larger NF expedition 36 for 3/4 man /6 pole but mainly use it in winter or kayaking if not hammocking. It is meant to withstand 80mph winds but don't really want to check it out although could have last weekend due to A bi gale !! Much too heavy to carry for two so as you say get the best to suit the needs. Enjoyed the review.Cheers Mary
+Mary McN Thanks Mary, I am looking for a winter tent option now. A geodesic would be nice especially if the weight is manageable. I will keep the Laser for lightweight backpack camping throughout the rest of the year. After my experience in Snowdonia I now realise how important it is to have a tent which is fit for purpose. If Ant and Marks tents had failed we would have been in a right pickle. Sandy
I have used one of these for the last 5 years, i think this review is pretty accurate. Its a good tent, the weight and size is very attractive. it's done me well on multiple trips, though the living space is small and so on 9-10 day trips a bit more living space would be enjoyable but thats just the pay off for lightweight. The main 2 grumbles would be the pole cover, which I believe is designed to protect the seams under it from water, its a faff, I don't like it and unless i expect rain half the time i don't bother with it. There is also very little room in the vestibule, my pack fits in, leaning up between the inner and outer and as Wiltshire man said, this leaves little room for getting changed and keeping dampness out of the inner. All in, I've had a great time with it but look forward to something a bit more comfortable. If you aim is light weight 3 season this should be good.
Good honest review. I thought this tent would be 'the one' for me, but after a week long trek with a group, in dryish conditions, my tent was soaked every night with condensation, when others single skin tents weren't. the pegs are useless. Bad in wind, like you said. Claustrophobic and tight feeling inside. I ended up with pretty bad feelings towards it(in fact, I found it was worse than any tent I have owned) and sold it. Fortunately they hold their value quite well. I now have a Lunar solo, which outperforms this one for half the price. NB. I live in Australia, where a real 4 season tent isn't necessary.
Interesting honest review. I do not have that tent but have heard about the extreme condensation factor of it during several different reviews. I am a subscriber of Paul Messner and he is not fond of tents that are condensation magnets either. Finding that happy medium spot in a tent and a sweet price point is GOLDEN if you can find it. The new materials and technologies are making some tents close to perfect...but at a prime price point. That lightweight middle ground is still a tough one to find.
Thanks Pamela, yes there are some very expensive tents on the market and it's often the case you get what you pay for but sometimes you can find a product that is cheaper and just as good or even better. Sometimes we can be paying for the name!
Excellent review has helped me to decide to give terra nova a bit of a wide berth, they must have known about the condensation issues during testing but either didn’t bother to do anything about it or just didn’t care or maybe had smoke blown up their behinds by people getting free tents to review in their garden, whatever the truth doesn’t make them look a quality company. So am still seeking a UL 1 person tent, maybe the vango f10 helium or a big Agnes.
Have just bought Zephyros 1, non lite version. Which I thinking of sending back. Many of the flaws u point out, tally with the way I think my tent will perform, based largely on how thin the 'WC' Superflex Alloy pole is. Superflex Alloy has 3 other aliases of Aviation Aluminium, Admonised Aluminium and 7001 T6 Alloy. All the SAME pole. And u absolutley right, u cant assess a tent's value on a couple of days pitch, in either your garden or the countryside. What u said about the sleeve and zip near the hoop concerns me, as I had thought if I cudda got a stronger thicker pole from somewhere, I might keep the tent. This leaves me less confident in doing so. Thanks for a very helpful, weatherbeaten review!!
It's so nice to see an honest and informed review. Sam and I are hoping to do a cycle camp next spring ( fairweather light-weights eh, ha) so I am looking for something small and lightweight that is a step up from my cheap supermarket tent that I have at the moment, so I'll consider this one, money permitting of course. Very helpful! Thanks again and all the best. Matt.
Good review Sandy thanks for sharing. Just goes to show the importance of the right gear for the season. Good job your friend was able to offer you shelter in Snowdonia. Atb. James
Agree that too many reviews are straight from 'momma's basement' and not from experience of use. A true warts and all review based on actual use and experience is far better. Thank you for your honest evaluation
Sandy I would try the msr ground hog stakes as I camp in often hard ground locations or places with tree roots. I swear by these msr ground hog stakes as they never let me down after 4 years. They have a triangle construction that makes them very rigid and resist bending. Hey weigh the same if not less then those aluminum tent stakes you are substituting for now. Give them a try my friend you can't go wrong. As for heilburg tents they are fantastic tents I believe the tent you have is of their lighter tents they make. For those types of winds you endured in your last trip you need a Akito model and really tie the guyline ropes securely and you will be fine. Also did you can "DOUBLE" The poles in the tent sleeve to make it more rigid and strong. Heilburg should easily replace the bent pole and torn tent. They have a excellent warrantee and stand behind their products. Also the two walls touching each other can be a bit of the tensioning on the set up. But just contact them they are a good company. .
I have to say I love this tent and when mine got damaged I got a free repair kit/ spare sent out very quick. I think they may have changed the pegs as I got star shape pegs with mine also titanium. Mine also has a deeper tray so may have been altered slightly as well. It is a think a tad hot in the summer I wouldn't like to share it with another person no matter how close 1 exception would be a lost beautiful female librarian lol quiet what shed be doing out and about in the middle of no ware is anyones guess but I sleep better at night with this image in my head haha great stuff sandy
I just got this tent for £245 new from ultimate outdoors, I got it as a emergency tent as my walks can be over 50 miles and I always have the risk of getting to sleepy to walk having this as a backup will increase my confidence to take on longer walks
Brilliant and honest review at last. Thanks for sharing. I really after a Jack of all. I don’t think I could trust this in really bad weather on the tops and Im gonna go for a heavier model.
I am looking at purchasing a tent for wild camping don’t know anything about tents, I have been doing some research online. Great review very good review good job.👍👍👍
Hi Sandy That was without a doubt the best review I have ever seen for the Laser Comp .... I bought it for lightweight bikepacking for which it performs wonderfully .... taking the time to vent the ends does increase airflow massively though it can be fiddly and not fun with numb fingers .... to go 4 season I pitch a DD tarp over the top .... like yourself I found the pegs useless ... however they make wonderful quadcopter arms or undercarriage rods as they'te only 1g a pop ..... I used them to build an amphibious Hubsan to terrorise ducks so nothing lost there .... Great channel and thoroughly enjoy your videos .... Cheers ..... Stoat :o)~
Very good review and i agree 100% about people giving reviews i think people should state if they have paid for a product and how long they have been using said item. I use the North Face Rock 2, great lightweight tent for back packing
Thank you for an honest detailed review, I was thinking of getting one of these for a beacons way trip, but not now. Glad I watched your review first. Thank you.
Great review! I was strongly considering this tent due to the weight, but ended up getting another since I needed it for rough weather and winter. Cheers!
@@mennofaber2771 I ended up with an HMG Dirigo 2 at the time, but quite frankly it wasn’t the best choice as a winter tent. I’ll probably pick up a Hilleberg tent or Ultamid eventually. Cheers
Thanks for the honest review. I'm surprised you kept the tent even if it wasn't what you were looking for. I'm also surprised it's made in China considering the high selling price.
Good review but worth noting that some of your issues might have been fixed now. The pegs are thicker (standard thickness) and alloy. Also noticed that now the inside vents can be closed and covered with material and the outside vents can be opened and closed too. I couldn't make out if the pole rain cover has the same fixtures as yours. Great to have a long-term usage review.
Thanks. My Laser doesn't seem to have very good ventilation and now I have gone over to using the Luxe V4 which seems to suit me quite well although it is a little heavier than the laser and also quite a bit cheaper.
was curious about this tent. but the price is too steep for me. thank you for showing what fails eventually. I eventually got a lanshan 2 as a lightweight option. thank you so much. take care.
I have a Terra Nova Voyager, again rated at 3 seasons. Being a semi geodesic design it is extremely strong. With the addition of a couple of extra guy lines I would risk using it in winter.. Had it possibly 12 years or so. Information on line Structure: semi-geodesic Materials: Fly: Watershed R/S (5000mm HH) Floor: Waterbloc 7000mm Rated 4 season........now Even when it stated 3 season I never believed it.....Cost now £500- £600 not cheap but must be the smallest two birth in their range. My outer fly is a gorgeous Burnt Orange........Never seen another this colour. See one for sale cheap enough then buy it! If base camping in winter and require most space. I have the Berghaus Grampian bright red, 4 season, not costly, very spacious, full geodesic, heavy. Some strengthen the poles, I won't be but it's a personal choice. I have your tent also, bought cheap, if stolen no big deal,,, losing my Voyager would be a big deal. Also have a Terra Nova hoole, another spacious simple 3 season but quite strong when pegged out correctly. For stating I own 3 Terra Nova tents then that's fantastic advertising..............Worthy of a gift,,,,,,,A new Voyager footprint would be nice. Old one stolen with car. also decent pegs.
Great review, good to see a tent that goes up outer and inner same time , so many inner up first then fly over after ..not a good idea in the rain inner getting wet
Great review, Sandy. You're spot on about certain people out to make a quick buck, they don't even use the product and don't list any of the negatives. What winter tent would you recommend and I noticed you're wearing your new trail runners, what socks did you end up wearing with them on your recent hike and do you think they would work well with neoprene socks to keep your wet feet warm during the day?
thanks a lot for your review! It has been the most accurated I could find! from what I have heard I think I will go for the Akto the wind range it can support is amazing
A good honest review Sandy, I think you may have been the victim of a copyright issue mate, Terra Nova tents are still made in Derbyshire, Ive had the TN Solar for quite a few years and it was made in Britain, it's a one man and it weighs a bit more but is still quite light and small, the only time I had a problem in strong winds on Dartmoor was down to me not pegging it out securely enough, I haven't had to use guy lines before but on this occasion I should have done, the strong winds were funnelled down the small valley we were in, we only left because my mates tent broke a pole and collapsed on him, the best all round style would be a geodesic multi frame that crosses over itself for rigidity, but there very expensive, T N are top quality tents, sometimes one might have to sacrifice a little weight for the right gear, T N tents are the main tents used on arctic expeditions and on Everest, that's why I bought one, your more than welcome to borrow mine and give it a try, atb.
+Neanderthal 62 Thats interesting Paul. I have just been onto the Terra nova website and it seems most of their tents are as you say made in England. Perhaps they outsource some work to China. But in anycase I will email them a link to my video so they can see the made in China badge and then they can let me know if it is real or fake. Sandy
+Wiltshire Man I'd be interested to hear what that have to say about it Sandy, but as you said they may outsource some work over there, can't think why really, inferior work for a bit more profit ? they have a reputation to think of, atb mate.
+Neanderthal 62 Hi Paul, I emailed them and this is what they said: Hi Sandy, Thank you for your feedback. We only make some of our tents here in the Uk.The Laser Completion is not made in the UK.We do not think your tent is a fake. Best RegardsSales & Customer Service Team Terra Nova Equipment LtdCustomer ServicesSalcombe Court, Salcombe RoadMeadow Lane Industrial EstateAlfreton DerbyshireDE55 7EG
+Wiltshire Man Mmmmm so they now only make some of them in the uk, at least they got back to you with an honest reply, seems like we can't get away from cheaper imports nowadays, everybody's after a larger profit margin, thanks Sandy, Hilleburg are suppose to be top quality and light and on a par in price with TN, atb.
Thanks for your review. I have been looking at getting a tent again and this was one that was recommended for 4 season use. I think now, watching your review I will dismiss this one. Thanks again, ATB, Dave
Cheers for the reply. I had an Akto a few years ago and found it too small. I use tarps now, trailstar, MID's and a MYOG flat tarp. I was just looking at what tents were out there for similar weights and this one was suggested, I have seen a Soulo in use and its very impressive and a good amount of room inside. ATB, Dave
I did an "initial observation " video for a bivy sleeping system with a raised area above your head. The manufacturer actually commented on my video and expressed interest with the modifications I said I wanted to make on it. This manufacturer may comment on your video also. This seemed to hold up pretty well considering being overloaded by extreme weather conditions. You mentioned being in a named storm that set records for the entire country for wind speeds. Gale Force winds are taxing on equipment. For high winds, a lower profile may hold up better than a tent with sail area. A hooped bivy may be a consideration. I bought the Aqua Quest Single hooped Bivy. It packs into a small stuff sack that is about the same size as the sack for the Hennessy Hammock. RUclips wont let me add a Amazon link to show the photograph for illustration purposes only
+Randy J www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D1BPCJ4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 OK now it let me insert a weblink. Just a observation and suggestion purposes only. I like this one so far.
Bought this tent today as a replacement for the vango banshee at half the weight and for 150 it seems worth it, this tent is clearly designed for weight saving and nothing more.
good honest review needless to say i wont be buying one.i had a hilleberg akto few years ago just could not get on with it.only good thing about it was it was easy to pitch.
Ill get through your vids eventually LOL I don't mind a box opening review or a first look but I must admit you can always tell if someone is reviewing something honestly or just enjoying their freebie moment shall we say, (I don't like that) Box opening I'm OK with, first look I'm OK with, long time user I'M ALL EARS nice job Sandy some great points well brought out, even if I'm a tad late on this one :-)
Great review. I've got the Force Ten Helium Carbon 200 tent which has the same design as your tent and the same problem that its useless in windy conditions. I would say that any wind speed higher that 25 mph would be too high for my tent which makes the name of it a bit of a joke as I believe force ten is around 60 mph.
Brilliant review Sandy, I watched it a while back and invested in a Hilleberg Akto because of your review, I have one of your Jacklore Classics and I want the best quality tent to go with the best quality Bushcraft Knives. Be safe.
Wiltshire Man thanks Sandy, are you taking more knives to the knife show, I would like to buy another one for my friend who keeps pestering me for mine, be safe and look forward to more reviews, I loved the WHW walk. Great humour and views but I think your walking partner was suffering a bit like me over Helvellyn a few years back.
I shall be at the knife show again next year Tony god willing. Not sure how many knives I will have but I usually make a special effort. It near on kills me though:)
Wiltshire Man Thanks Sandy, will come and get another classic, I had a Woodlore AW and I actually prefer yours as I watched how you make them and was blown away with your commitment to quality, I was also £300 better off. Win win. Going back to the tents, I was going to buy a Terra Nova but watched your Snowdonia episode and went for the Akto. I was also really happy that you mentioned the danger of lightning on your Storm Frank Miltec review. Stay safe.
Hi Sandy excellent genuine review must admit i was surprised with the laser failure.i have done Tryfan in very similar conditions i camped in the small campsite near its base, The tent i used was a Marmot and it was spot on other tents on the site were failing left right and centre including aa family who had erected a large frame tent they packed up and went home in the middle of the night. So Marmot might be worth looking at mine is about 15 years old now and still all ok Alan M1TAP the armoured farmer
£300!! Must of seen you coming Sandy. With only 1 pole in the middle sacrifices strength and rigidity. The tent was always on a loser. Glad everything turned out OK for you in Snowdonia and you are safe and well. Good honest review PEACE :-)
I've just purchased a very lightly used Terra Nova Laser Competition 2 for £240 still relatively expensive for a small two person tent however my first observation is that the tent is of good quality - I have no intention of scaling Snowdonia and camping in thirty miles per hour winds and intend to use it for recreational purposes only - £300 is not a lot of money for a specialist lightweight tent of such good quality - I have previously invested in the Terra Nova brand with no regrets whatever
Found the Hilleberg more sturdy than the Terra Nova in wind and weather. Got rid of both after using the North Face Mountain 25. It is more an expedition tent than anything I would consider for backpacking
I don't think you can review something without putting it to use in " the field " . First impressions are ok if that's made clear at the start. Your review is obviously valid after such extensive use. That's $600+ Australian which seems pretty expensive. Thanks for sharing.
good on ya sandy ...tough work that...whilst I avidly listen to your advice/experience I don't think "wet foot technology " is for me too cold !!!!anyway good to see you out and about cheers......mo
Great film Sandy. Have a film on my channel later tonight for a new tent Trekkertent that is 4 season and withstood serious winds the other night and comes in at 1.3kg. ATB Ray.
Good review and insights into the pro's and con's Sandy. Eddie (ScotsWildcamper) puts his gear through some very rough four-season conditions so you might want to check out his channel the next time you are in the market for gear. Eddie gives good honest advice too. For whisky I go to Ralfy's RUclips channel. He lives on the Isle of Man and has vast knowledge of most spirits, and he has a great philosophy for life, "it's all about quality, not quantity"). Take care, Ossie
As said well sorry to here you had to move out the tent in wales, Hope you will find tent light, but utterly reliable, what ever is thrown at it. Cheers
+derrick ? Hi Derrick, Utter reliability is something that very light weight tents do. I have found another tent that I will try soon. It's called the Mil tec recon one. I will buy one and try that. It is cheap but could be a good buy. Sandy
Good and thorough review, cheers. I was looking at these again as I've got one, and I wanted to see if I could fix the issues I have with pitching it. I was disappointed last night camping in the garden to test it before venturing out again (I don't use it often enough), and I started to wonder why I thought so much of it when I got it. As you mention, the main issue is the closeness of inner and outer down the length of it. There are little adjuster buckles on the connection straps at the end points, which seem to give the option of the two skins touching virtually all the time, or having the inner tent sagging down, and nowhere in between is there really anything ideal. I'm not sure if it's because it's designed to have all the inner and outer peg loops in pairs together, or what. The tent sags unless you tighten it up quite well, and then you'll find the door zip is under too much strain. I have never bothered with the pole cover or side guys - maybe they help keep it in shape. It has a lot of good points, but the most important thing in a tent is keeping inner and fly apart so you don't get condensation soaking through, or worse, the rain. Stay safe, Wiltshire Man!
It's a good tent but as you say there are downsides to it. It really does condensate quite bad unfortunately so I tend only to use it in more clement conditions. Sandy
@@WiltshireMan do you have any tips regarding the doors ? One thing that annoys me is that when attaching the fly sheet to the inner tent using the toggle, i often end up wet. Either rain water or condesation will drip of the fly sheet and into the inner tent, have you found this too? Do you have any ideas or solutions, i've actually started taking a microfibre cloth to wipe the door before i use it now. Any tips appreciated.
mines made in Vietnam ..for some reason... those 2 vents at head and foot are a bit of a nightmare for draughts, the newer model has flaps, mine doesn't :( its same as this, will need to sort out a cover of some sort... poor design there.. not used it in anger yet.. theres a couple of differences between mine ( 2008 model) and yours, sadly i dont have a 2 way zip on the outer door to let steam out, and the line locks are different..i got mine recently off ebay in very good, almost unused condition, the DAC poles are dead straight and they are black, it seems pretty good but a lot smaller ( more confined ) than i had realised... but oh sooo light.. i like you Sandy am a ham guy so i have a flex 1500 and 8" windows tablet and and a manual tuner, 22000mah lifepo battery etc to carry.. so ANY weight saving is a plus ! a 1Kg tent is great as i was using a Coleman aravis 2 tent at 2.4 Kg, quite a difference.
"...can be ventilated by lifting the end flaps up, which I've never done to be honest with you..." "...the ventilation has been poor..." I left right there.
A very honest appraisal of an expensive item; exactly what's required when preparing to part with cash. Thank you.
I own one of the very early versions of a Laser 2, which is larger but shares many features. I do up alternate toggles holding the inner to the fly, this allows a bigger gap between the two. The pegs needed replacing then too. Agreed about the wind speeds vulnerabilty, had to collapse the tent and sleep in a shed on Canna. It does need to be pitched on flat ground, not sloping, and only in sheltered or still conditions, but I still use mine after 16 years. You need to know the limits and the best way to use it. On Tiree the campsite owners let us pitch in the barn, bizarre feeling but very practical. I have no leaks or rips in the bathtub, but I also added a footprint. I set up the fly and inner together, a very useful feature. Storage under the fly is good, there is just enough room to cook closed up, but I avoid this if possible. Only one small rip in the inner, due to careless packing, with a gaffer tape repair.
I agree about the condensation issues, an hour of ventilation before packing is needed, although if packed away wet, when re-erected it is usually dry enough inside for use in 10-15 mins. Very good weight and length, I have never got wet from the rain in it, but it has limitations.
do you have any tips regarding the doors ? One thing that annoys me is that when attaching the fly sheet to the inner tent using the toggle, i often end up wet. Either rain water or condesation will drip of the fly sheet and into the inner tend, have you found this too? do you have any ideas or solutions, i've actually started taking a microfibre cloth to wipe the door before i use it now. Any tips appreciated.
I have the Competition 2 and only really used it in anger on one bike packing trip a couple of years ago (got mine for £235!!)
Used in late July but still suffered from overnight condensation. I have since treated both inner and outer to a spray of water proofing to see if it makes any difference. Hoping any water build up will simply bead and run down rather than collect. Hoping to get out post covid lockdown.
Thumbs up Sandy. I appreciate your comments and honesty in reviewing items. Your long-term usage comments are much appreciated. Take care, Ken
+KennethKramm Thanks Ken,
I am sure this tent would be fine for a winter camp in TX but it is not quite upto the rigours of high level camping in the UK. I am on the lookout for a cost effective mountain tent for winter use now:)
+Wiltshire Man www.terra-nova.co.uk/tents-and-spares/all-tents/superlite-voyager-tent-grade-a/
Deciding whether or not to buy this tent or the Nordisk Svalbard for windy conditions versus weight considerations ...I simply decided I'm happy to carry the extra weight of the Nordisk for two reasons: [1] Not doing any mountain marathons ever soon and [2] because it can withstand wind at Hurricane levels. I never want to be caught in a mountain or beach scenario again with my tent being shredded by the wind in the middle of a stormy night....so thanks for your honest review ...... keep them coming!
Wise choice. The laser is not good in strong winds
That was pretty exhaustive and complete review. Thank you for the time and effort, it was appreciated. I would have liked to hear how the venting option shown in the Terra Nova video would have worked out to control the condensation however. I have a North Face tent which i added a loop to, so that I could adjust the spacing and get more flow between the inner and outer tent layers. That has been effective.
Wow, a long term review on a product by someone who actually bought and used it, very refreshing Sandy. Cheers, John
Although I don't do tents normally, I found this review interesting and honest. So many youtubers are now doing reviews about gear they may not have used previously and/or have been sponsored in some way, perhaps a freebie in the post asking to do an "honest" review and can keep the item, how can this be an honest and impartial review?. Since my channel has grown I'm getting interest from company's wanting me to promote their products and have declined. I would only recommend a product I own or believe in. Keep it organic keep it real, ATB, Damian.
Thank you for posting up an honest revue, I have looked at so many tents that were within my budget but all had a compromise, I always came back to this one, two man compact , still to set up and use it , I know it will have its own issues but the weight saving alone was a big selling point for me , thank you 👍
I really appreciate your honesty, and the way you detailed every component of this tent. Also, you seem to take very good care of your equipment. You've been out many times in this tent and it still looks brand new! Thank you for sharing. All the best, Stella
+Stella P. Yes the tent is in good shape. I do not pick muddy pitches. The tent is almost like new apart from a slightly bent hoop.
Sandy
+Wiltshire Man I saw that video today where your tent failed on Tryfan (sp?) in Wales. I'm glad you were able to repair it. That trip looked like such a challenge and so much fun with your companions. All the best--Stella
A true review, that rhymes. Very good thanks, Ive just bought one 2nd hand and waiting for it to be delivered - this has helped a lot. Good to see tent reviews by users.
A review like I would expect it from a man like you, Sandy. Honest and to the point. I wonder which one you got now, cheers, Jan
I still have the terranova but I'm using the cheap Lanshan 1 and 2 tents. The seem to work well for me and less condensation
So refreshing to see such an honest review. Huge respect for what you do and thanks for the videos.
Great review and I am glad you covered a lot of the variables that go into the design of this type of equipment. The people that truly go out and put their gear to varying tests will appreciate your insights. I often get the comment that the gear I review is too expensive but as you pointed out their are many ways to make something less or more expensive and the key is to not ask it to do more than it is designed to do.
I do know you had many great adventures in that tent. So raise a glass of brandy and salute it, it was a faithful friend until it could protect you no more.
Take care
Bruce
A very fair and objective review Sandy.
For what it's worth, I've owned four Terra Nova tents over the years :-
- Quasar Superlite - Bombproof mountain tent, too heavy for solo use
- Solar - Their first 1-man tent. Not a really successful design
- Voyager - Great 2-man tent, too heavy for one.
- Voyage Superlite - Excellent design. Room for two, light enough for one.
Build quality was First Class on all of them.
The Solar fairly soon disappeared from the list but the others are classics and still available.
Best wishes, as ever,
Noel
+Noel Adams I will have to do some research Noel. I will be buying a new stronger tent for Winter only use some time soon. After I have built a few more knives though!
I prefer the Hilton Junior Executive Suite tent. it works well in all sorts of inclement weather.
The thing I like most about it is that when it's teaming with rain at 2am you can still order a burger, chips and beer without getting wet nor cold.
+Ade Larsen 350 quid plus ??? You've been had. Chinese made means someone's driving a Roller with your money.
Thanks for the honest, long term user review. I'm looking for my first (one person) tent and getting proper information like this is vital so I don't waste my money.
Good review Sandy. I too have a terra nova , an old trisar when it was the baby brother to a quasar and made by Wild Country before bought over by Terra Nova. It's 22 years old and cost £170 way back then! It's the best 2 man tent I have ever owned and a semi geodesic so has stood up to whatever Scotland can throw at it from high winds driving rain and heavy snow. It did have a lifetime warrenty but not sure how long they class that as but so far no problems. I would go onto the web site and give them a call. Great bunch to deal with as have bought other stuff and very helpful.They should be able to make any repairs. I did a lot of research before buying as wanted a large vestibule, able to sit up and sleep 2 and this fitted the bill for a couple of long distance walks. If it ever dies I will cry but the quasar would be my next choice! I do also have a larger NF expedition 36 for 3/4 man /6 pole but mainly use it in winter or kayaking if not hammocking. It is meant to withstand 80mph winds but don't really want to check it out although could have last weekend due to A bi gale !! Much too heavy to carry for two so as you say get the best to suit the needs. Enjoyed the review.Cheers Mary
+Mary McN Thanks Mary,
I am looking for a winter tent option now. A geodesic would be nice especially if the weight is manageable. I will keep the Laser for lightweight backpack camping throughout the rest of the year. After my experience in Snowdonia I now realise how important it is to have a tent which is fit for purpose. If Ant and Marks tents had failed we would have been in a right pickle.
Sandy
Excellent and honest review. I had a failed vango tunnel tent in high wind in North Wales. Not a nice experience but we weren’t remote thankfully
I have used one of these for the last 5 years, i think this review is pretty accurate. Its a good tent, the weight and size is very attractive. it's done me well on multiple trips, though the living space is small and so on 9-10 day trips a bit more living space would be enjoyable but thats just the pay off for lightweight. The main 2 grumbles would be the pole cover, which I believe is designed to protect the seams under it from water, its a faff, I don't like it and unless i expect rain half the time i don't bother with it. There is also very little room in the vestibule, my pack fits in, leaning up between the inner and outer and as Wiltshire man said, this leaves little room for getting changed and keeping dampness out of the inner. All in, I've had a great time with it but look forward to something a bit more comfortable. If you aim is light weight 3 season this should be good.
Good honest review. I thought this tent would be 'the one' for me, but after a week long trek with a group, in dryish conditions, my tent was soaked every night with condensation, when others single skin tents weren't. the pegs are useless. Bad in wind, like you said. Claustrophobic and tight feeling inside. I ended up with pretty bad feelings towards it(in fact, I found it was worse than any tent I have owned) and sold it. Fortunately they hold their value quite well. I now have a Lunar solo, which outperforms this one for half the price. NB. I live in Australia, where a real 4 season tent isn't necessary.
Thanks Phrayzar. Yes this tent is not all that good, Glad you managed to get some money back when you sold it.
Sandy
Interesting honest review. I do not have that tent but have heard about the extreme condensation factor of it during several different reviews. I am a subscriber of Paul Messner and he is not fond of tents that are condensation magnets either. Finding that happy medium spot in a tent and a sweet price point is GOLDEN if you can find it. The new materials and technologies are making some tents close to perfect...but at a prime price point. That lightweight middle ground is still a tough one to find.
Thanks Pamela, yes there are some very expensive tents on the market and it's often the case you get what you pay for but sometimes you can find a product that is cheaper and just as good or even better. Sometimes we can be paying for the name!
Great honest and visible review... many thanks :) will be getting one as suggested for 3 seasons back packing.
Excellent review has helped me to decide to give terra nova a bit of a wide berth, they must have known about the condensation issues during testing but either didn’t bother to do anything about it or just didn’t care or maybe had smoke blown up their behinds by people getting free tents to review in their garden, whatever the truth doesn’t make them look a quality company. So am still seeking a UL 1 person tent, maybe the vango f10 helium or a big Agnes.
Have just bought Zephyros 1, non lite version. Which I thinking of sending back. Many of the flaws u point out, tally with the way I think my tent will perform, based largely on how thin the 'WC' Superflex Alloy pole is. Superflex Alloy has 3 other aliases of Aviation Aluminium, Admonised Aluminium and 7001 T6 Alloy. All the SAME pole. And u absolutley right, u cant assess a tent's value on a couple of days pitch, in either your garden or the countryside. What u said about the sleeve and zip near the hoop concerns me, as I had thought if I cudda got a stronger thicker pole from somewhere, I might keep the tent. This leaves me less confident in doing so. Thanks for a very helpful, weatherbeaten review!!
It's so nice to see an honest and informed review.
Sam and I are hoping to do a cycle camp next spring ( fairweather light-weights eh, ha) so I am looking for something small and lightweight that is a step up from my cheap supermarket tent that I have at the moment, so I'll consider this one, money permitting of course.
Very helpful!
Thanks again and all the best.
Matt.
Good review Sandy thanks for sharing. Just goes to show the importance of the right gear for the season. Good job your friend was able to offer you shelter in Snowdonia. Atb. James
Agree that too many reviews are straight from 'momma's basement' and not from experience of use. A true warts and all review based on actual use and experience is far better. Thank you for your honest evaluation
Nice honest review from someone who has used the tent. We'll done
Nice long term review Sandy. You can normally tell an honest review by the person and I trust your review to make a reasoned decision.
Cheers
Martin
Sandy I would try the msr ground hog stakes as I camp in often hard ground locations or places with tree roots. I swear by these msr ground hog stakes as they never let me down after 4 years. They have a triangle construction that makes them very rigid and resist bending. Hey weigh the same if not less then those aluminum tent stakes you are substituting for now. Give them a try my friend you can't go wrong. As for heilburg tents they are fantastic tents I believe the tent you have is of their lighter tents they make. For those types of winds you endured in your last trip you need a Akito model and really tie the guyline ropes securely and you will be fine. Also did you can "DOUBLE" The poles in the tent sleeve to make it more rigid and strong. Heilburg should easily replace the bent pole and torn tent. They have a excellent warrantee and stand behind their products. Also the two walls touching each other can be a bit of the tensioning on the set up. But just contact them they are a good company. .
Nice to see a review after the product as been extensively used 👍
Very instructive, I just bought new and I’ll be upgrading the pegs for sure
Hi Ron,
Its a good tent. Hope you have many happy camps with it.
I have to say I love this tent and when mine got damaged I got a free repair kit/ spare sent out very quick. I think they may have changed the pegs as I got star shape pegs with mine also titanium. Mine also has a deeper tray so may have been altered slightly as well.
It is a think a tad hot in the summer I wouldn't like to share it with another person no matter how close 1 exception would be a lost beautiful female librarian lol quiet what shed be doing out and about in the middle of no ware is anyones guess but I sleep better at night with this image in my head haha
great stuff sandy
I just got this tent for £245 new from ultimate outdoors, I got it as a emergency tent as my walks can be over 50 miles and I always have the risk of getting to sleepy to walk having this as a backup will increase my confidence to take on longer walks
A really excellent review. No BS Just the truth. Refreshing. Thank you
Brilliant and honest review at last. Thanks for sharing. I really after a Jack of all. I don’t think I could trust this in really bad weather on the tops and Im gonna go for a heavier model.
I am looking at purchasing a tent for wild camping don’t know anything about tents, I have been doing some research online. Great review very good review good job.👍👍👍
The Helm Compact1 is a very good tent for all weather wild camping
Hi Sandy
That was without a doubt the best review I have ever seen for the Laser Comp .... I bought it for lightweight bikepacking for which it performs wonderfully .... taking the time to vent the ends does increase airflow massively though it can be fiddly and not fun with numb fingers .... to go 4 season I pitch a DD tarp over the top .... like yourself I found the pegs useless ... however they make wonderful quadcopter arms or undercarriage rods as they'te only 1g a pop ..... I used them to build an amphibious Hubsan to terrorise ducks so nothing lost there .... Great channel and thoroughly enjoy your videos .... Cheers ..... Stoat :o)~
Very good review and i agree 100% about people giving reviews i think people should state if they have paid for a product and how long they have been using said item. I use the North Face Rock 2, great lightweight tent for back packing
Thank you for an honest detailed review, I was thinking of getting one of these for a beacons way trip, but not now. Glad I watched your review first. Thank you.
Why? They updated the tent and got rid of the condensation problem.
Great review! I was strongly considering this tent due to the weight, but ended up getting another since I needed it for rough weather and winter. Cheers!
Then I'm curious wicht tent you bought?
@@mennofaber2771 I ended up with an HMG Dirigo 2 at the time, but quite frankly it wasn’t the best choice as a winter tent. I’ll probably pick up a Hilleberg tent or Ultamid eventually. Cheers
Thanks for the honest review. I'm surprised you kept the tent even if it wasn't what you were looking for. I'm also surprised it's made in China considering the high selling price.
Thanks for posting. I was considering the Laser Photon and read other reviews also saying the pegs are a joke and condensation is a problem.
Good review but worth noting that some of your issues might have been fixed now. The pegs are thicker (standard thickness) and alloy. Also noticed that now the inside vents can be closed and covered with material and the outside vents can be opened and closed too.
I couldn't make out if the pole rain cover has the same fixtures as yours.
Great to have a long-term usage review.
Thanks. My Laser doesn't seem to have very good ventilation and now I have gone over to using the Luxe V4 which seems to suit me quite well although it is a little heavier than the laser and also quite a bit cheaper.
was curious about this tent. but the price is too steep for me. thank you for showing what fails eventually. I eventually got a lanshan 2 as a lightweight option. thank you so much. take care.
Excellent and enjoyable review.. your right somtimes you just have to carry a little more weight to get that extra security.
I have a Terra Nova Voyager, again rated at 3 seasons. Being a semi geodesic design it is extremely strong. With the addition of a couple of extra guy lines I would risk using it in winter.. Had it possibly 12 years or so. Information on line Structure: semi-geodesic
Materials:
Fly: Watershed R/S (5000mm HH)
Floor: Waterbloc 7000mm
Rated 4 season........now
Even when it stated 3 season I never believed it.....Cost now £500- £600 not cheap but must be the smallest two birth in their range.
My outer fly is a gorgeous Burnt Orange........Never seen another this colour.
See one for sale cheap enough then buy it!
If base camping in winter and require most space. I have the Berghaus Grampian bright red, 4 season, not costly, very spacious, full geodesic, heavy. Some strengthen the poles, I won't be but it's a personal choice.
I have your tent also, bought cheap, if stolen no big deal,,, losing my Voyager would be a big deal.
Also have a Terra Nova hoole, another spacious simple 3 season but quite strong when pegged out correctly.
For stating I own 3 Terra Nova tents then that's fantastic advertising..............Worthy of a gift,,,,,,,A new Voyager footprint would be nice. Old one stolen with car. also decent pegs.
Quality review from a very honest man.
Thanks Charles
Thanks for the honesty and good review Sandy!
Thanks for the review Sandy, as usual a lot of thought given to your comments.
Great review, good to see a tent that goes up outer and inner same time , so many inner up first then fly over after ..not a good idea in the rain inner getting wet
Great review, Sandy. You're spot on about certain people out to make a quick buck, they don't even use the product and don't list any of the negatives. What winter tent would you recommend and I noticed you're wearing your new trail runners, what socks did you end up wearing with them on your recent hike and do you think they would work well with neoprene socks to keep your wet feet warm during the day?
I have a terra nova tent and its fantastic one of the best tents i've owned, great video sandy atb
Thanks for the thorough, informative and fun to watch review!
thanks a lot for your review! It has been the most accurated I could find! from what I have heard I think I will go for the Akto the wind range it can support is amazing
A good honest review Sandy, I think you may have been the victim of a copyright issue mate, Terra Nova tents are still made in Derbyshire, Ive had the TN Solar for quite a few years and it was made in Britain, it's a one man and it weighs a bit more but is still quite light and small, the only time I had a problem in strong winds on Dartmoor was down to me not pegging it out securely enough, I haven't had to use guy lines before but on this occasion I should have done, the strong winds were funnelled down the small valley we were in, we only left because my mates tent broke a pole and collapsed on him, the best all round style would be a geodesic multi frame that crosses over itself for rigidity, but there very expensive, T N are top quality tents, sometimes one might have to sacrifice a little weight for the right gear, T N tents are the main tents used on arctic expeditions and on Everest, that's why I bought one, your more than welcome to borrow mine and give it a try, atb.
+Neanderthal 62 Thats interesting Paul. I have just been onto the Terra nova website and it seems most of their tents are as you say made in England. Perhaps they outsource some work to China. But in anycase I will email them a link to my video so they can see the made in China badge and then they can let me know if it is real or fake.
Sandy
+Wiltshire Man I'd be interested to hear what that have to say about it Sandy, but as you said they may outsource some work over there, can't think why really, inferior work for a bit more profit ? they have a reputation to think of, atb mate.
+Neanderthal 62 Hi Paul,
I emailed them and this is what they said:
Hi Sandy, Thank you for your feedback. We only make some of our tents here in the Uk.The Laser Completion is not made in the UK.We do not think your tent is a fake. Best RegardsSales & Customer Service Team Terra Nova Equipment LtdCustomer ServicesSalcombe Court, Salcombe RoadMeadow Lane Industrial EstateAlfreton DerbyshireDE55 7EG
+Wiltshire Man Mmmmm so they now only make some of them in the uk, at least they got back to you with an honest reply, seems like we can't get away from cheaper imports nowadays, everybody's after a larger profit margin, thanks Sandy, Hilleburg are suppose to be top quality and light and on a par in price with TN, atb.
Thanks for your review. I have been looking at getting a tent again and this was one that was recommended for 4 season use. I think now, watching your review I will dismiss this one. Thanks again, ATB, Dave
For a little more money the Hilleberg Soulo is a fine 4 season tent that will last many years. Expensive though but it will last.
Cheers for the reply. I had an Akto a few years ago and found it too small. I use tarps now, trailstar, MID's and a MYOG flat tarp. I was just looking at what tents were out there for similar weights and this one was suggested,
I have seen a Soulo in use and its very impressive and a good amount of room inside. ATB, Dave
umm, yes but the Soulo is a 2.4Kg tent .. as you say in other vids sandy, i think its good to have more than 1 tent.
Great Review from a proper user of the tent. Good points raised.
Thanks, a very PRACTICAL review Wiltshire Man!
I did an "initial observation " video for a bivy sleeping system with a raised area above your head. The manufacturer actually commented on my video and expressed interest with the modifications I said I wanted to make on it. This manufacturer may comment on your video also.
This seemed to hold up pretty well considering being overloaded by extreme weather conditions. You mentioned being in a named storm that set records for the entire country for wind speeds. Gale Force winds are taxing on equipment. For high winds, a lower profile may hold up better than a tent with sail area. A hooped bivy may be a consideration. I bought the Aqua Quest Single hooped Bivy. It packs into a small stuff sack that is about the same size as the sack for the Hennessy Hammock. RUclips wont let me add a Amazon link to show the photograph for illustration purposes only
+Randy J www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D1BPCJ4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 OK now it let me insert a weblink. Just a observation and suggestion purposes only. I like this one so far.
Bought this tent today as a replacement for the vango banshee at half the weight and for 150 it seems worth it, this tent is clearly designed for weight saving and nothing more.
It is quite compact to be honest, I don't use it as much now
good honest review needless to say i wont be buying one.i had a hilleberg akto few years ago just could not get on with it.only good thing about it was it was easy to pitch.
Ill get through your vids eventually LOL I don't mind a box opening review or a first look but I must admit you can always tell if someone is reviewing something honestly or just enjoying their freebie moment shall we say, (I don't like that)
Box opening I'm OK with, first look I'm OK with, long time user I'M ALL EARS nice job Sandy some great points well brought out, even if I'm a tad late on this one :-)
No worries. The laser is still a good tent but there are better ones like the Hilleberg Akto etc but you will pay a lot more money for them.
How would you say the Hilleberg Akto compares with this tent?
Great honest review as always Sandy, good man, off to watch the snowdonia vid. :)
Great review. I've got the Force Ten Helium Carbon 200 tent which has the same design as your tent and the same problem that its useless in windy conditions. I would say that any wind speed higher that 25 mph would be too high for my tent which makes the name of it a bit of a joke as I believe force ten is around 60 mph.
Brilliant review Sandy, I watched it a while back and invested in a Hilleberg Akto because of your review, I have one of your Jacklore Classics and I want the best quality tent to go with the best quality Bushcraft Knives. Be safe.
LOL Thanks Tony. Although the Laser is a good tent the Akto is better:)
Wiltshire Man thanks Sandy, are you taking more knives to the knife show, I would like to buy another one for my friend who keeps pestering me for mine, be safe and look forward to more reviews, I loved the WHW walk. Great humour and views but I think your walking partner was suffering a bit like me over Helvellyn a few years back.
I shall be at the knife show again next year Tony god willing. Not sure how many knives I will have but I usually make a special effort. It near on kills me though:)
Wiltshire Man Thanks Sandy, will come and get another classic, I had a Woodlore AW and I actually prefer yours as I watched how you make them and was blown away with your commitment to quality, I was also £300 better off. Win win. Going back to the tents, I was going to buy a Terra Nova but watched your Snowdonia episode and went for the Akto. I was also really happy that you mentioned the danger of lightning on your Storm Frank Miltec review. Stay safe.
At last a real review 👍👍
Hi Sandy excellent genuine review must admit i was surprised with the laser failure.i have done Tryfan in very similar conditions i camped in the small campsite near its base,
The tent i used was a Marmot and it was spot on other tents on the site were failing left right and centre including aa family who had erected a large frame tent they packed up and went home in the middle of the night. So Marmot might be worth looking at mine is about 15 years old now and still all ok
Alan M1TAP the armoured farmer
pegs are identical to mine on the f10 helium carbon 100, replaced with msr groundhogs. i thought a fair video sandy , thanks
£300!! Must of seen you coming Sandy. With only 1 pole in the middle sacrifices strength and rigidity. The tent was always on a loser. Glad everything turned out OK for you in Snowdonia and you are safe and well. Good honest review PEACE :-)
+Capt'n Aidy It's stil a great tent for low level and 3 season use and the design is good, but perhaps not best for bad winter weather.
I've just purchased a very lightly used Terra Nova Laser Competition 2 for £240 still relatively expensive for a small two person tent however my first observation is that the tent is of good quality - I have no intention of scaling Snowdonia and camping in thirty miles per hour winds and intend to use it for recreational purposes only - £300 is not a lot of money for a specialist lightweight tent of such good quality - I have previously invested in the Terra Nova brand with no regrets whatever
Found the Hilleberg more sturdy than the Terra Nova in wind and weather. Got rid of both after using the North Face Mountain 25. It is more an expedition tent than anything I would consider for backpacking
+Greg Stritch Yes I believe they are a better design but a lot more money too.
Good honest review, I appreciate it.
Thanks Gareth
I don't think you can review something without putting it to use in " the field " . First impressions are ok if that's made clear at the start. Your review is obviously valid after such extensive use. That's $600+ Australian which seems pretty expensive. Thanks for sharing.
refreshing to see an honest review keep up the good work sandy.peace... paul
Well done, The Wiltshire Man,,, a true review!!!!
good on ya sandy ...tough work that...whilst I avidly listen to your advice/experience I don't think "wet foot technology " is for me too cold !!!!anyway good to see you out and about cheers......mo
Thanks for this review. I got a Zephyros 2 which is the budget version on this, but to be honest with a few upgrades is almost as good.
Great review, thank you.
Happy Thanksgiving Mr Sandy! Hope you're having a great day today! Best wishes from across the sea!
Mark in Texas
That looks like a decent light weight tent. Thanks for the review :)
- Martin
Useful review - always a compromise between durability for UK conditions and weight
Great film Sandy. Have a film on my channel later tonight for a new tent Trekkertent that is 4 season and withstood serious winds the other night and comes in at 1.3kg. ATB Ray.
honsest review,i was thinking of buying a new tent,mine is already a few years old
Good review and insights into the pro's and con's Sandy. Eddie (ScotsWildcamper) puts his gear through some very rough four-season conditions so you might want to check out his channel the next time you are in the market for gear. Eddie gives good honest advice too. For whisky I go to Ralfy's RUclips channel. He lives on the Isle of Man and has vast knowledge of most spirits, and he has a great philosophy for life, "it's all about quality, not quantity"). Take care, Ossie
As said well sorry to here you had to move out the tent in wales, Hope you will find tent light, but utterly reliable, what ever is thrown at it. Cheers
+derrick ? Hi Derrick,
Utter reliability is something that very light weight tents do. I have found another tent that I will try soon. It's called the Mil tec recon one. I will buy one and try that. It is cheap but could be a good buy.
Sandy
Good and thorough review, cheers. I was looking at these again as I've got one, and I wanted to see if I could fix the issues I have with pitching it. I was disappointed last night camping in the garden to test it before venturing out again (I don't use it often enough), and I started to wonder why I thought so much of it when I got it. As you mention, the main issue is the closeness of inner and outer down the length of it. There are little adjuster buckles on the connection straps at the end points, which seem to give the option of the two skins touching virtually all the time, or having the inner tent sagging down, and nowhere in between is there really anything ideal. I'm not sure if it's because it's designed to have all the inner and outer peg loops in pairs together, or what. The tent sags unless you tighten it up quite well, and then you'll find the door zip is under too much strain. I have never bothered with the pole cover or side guys - maybe they help keep it in shape. It has a lot of good points, but the most important thing in a tent is keeping inner and fly apart so you don't get condensation soaking through, or worse, the rain. Stay safe, Wiltshire Man!
It's a good tent but as you say there are downsides to it. It really does condensate quite bad unfortunately so I tend only to use it in more clement conditions.
Sandy
@@WiltshireMan do you have any tips regarding the doors ? One thing that annoys me is that when attaching the fly sheet to the inner tent using the toggle, i often end up wet. Either rain water or condesation will drip of the fly sheet and into the inner tent, have you found this too? Do you have any ideas or solutions, i've actually started taking a microfibre cloth to wipe the door before i use it now. Any tips appreciated.
@@Ritchie15283 I saw Abbie Barnes bring a clothespin and simply roll the door up like with most tents
@@ewik939 that's actually a really good idea.... I'll be taking a clothes peg from now on
mines made in Vietnam ..for some reason...
those 2 vents at head and foot are a bit of a nightmare for draughts, the newer model has flaps, mine doesn't :( its same as this, will need to sort out a cover of some sort... poor design there..
not used it in anger yet..
theres a couple of differences between mine ( 2008 model) and yours, sadly i dont have a 2 way zip on the outer door to let steam out, and the line locks are different..i got mine recently off ebay in very good, almost unused condition, the DAC poles are dead straight and they are black,
it seems pretty good but a lot smaller ( more confined ) than i had realised... but oh sooo light.. i like you Sandy am a ham guy so i have a flex 1500 and 8" windows tablet and and a manual tuner, 22000mah lifepo battery etc to carry.. so ANY weight saving is a plus ! a 1Kg tent is great as i was using a Coleman aravis 2 tent at 2.4 Kg, quite a difference.
Nice honest review sandy, cheers for that, it looks ideal in the right weather 👍🏻
Cheers jason
Honest review is appreciated - thumbs up
most interesting thanks,,
thank you very much for the effort of making this video, very useful review.
Good honest review Sandy. Good stuff.
Thank you very much!
Great honest review... thanks
Nice tent but the Vango Spectre 200 at a third of the cost of the Terra Nova will stand all weathers a little heavier but not by much.
+charlieoscar09 I will check out the scepte. Thankyou
Great review, thanks !
Nice honest review, Thanks a bunch !
what a great review, very informative
I just wish I would get off my backside and stop armchair camping lol there, I've made a start!
+c0deye1 You have indeed.
"...can be ventilated by lifting the end flaps up, which I've never done to be honest with you..."
"...the ventilation has been poor..."
I left right there.