Attributes of Allah | Ashari Belief Vs The Salaf | Shamsi Speakers Corner
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Is the Ashari Aqeedah (belief) considered from Ahul Sunnah Wal Jama'a?
ruclips.net/video/3ry-24AxqTA/видео.html&ab_channel=DaarusSunnah
Of course it is
Salafism is a protestant sect
Yes it is and alhamudulilah i repented from pseudo-salafi to to ahle sunna
Yes! Why is this even a question ?
Ofcourse it is. Al Azhar is Ashari.
The clear difference between the Duaa't who have knowledge and those who do not, just watch this video and the video with Ali Dawah and Yusuf - It's clear, Wahdih.. May Allah bless the brothers at DUS Dawah / Maktaba Salafiyyah and those united with them upon Aqeedah and Manhaj!
@Smart Rabbit Sorry, with the greatest of respect - I have no idea what you are saying.
@Smart Rabbit Firstly, you have no idea regarding what I know or do not know, so that is quite presumptuous there on your part. Who would you consider to be proper institutions?
@A.R give us some institute then ?
@A.R and if you speak Arabic you know that asharis are on clear batil.
@@youcefbelkina8108 are you honestly taking him serious…?
I think alot of youth suffer from this misguided methodologies because they jump on reading here and there and listening to who ever speaks than they start to get confused .
The cure of that is to start studying the basics of Ahl sunnah and learning from the real scholars
May Allah keep you firm my brothers
SubhanAllah this is so true... May Allah guide us all to the straight path and keep us firm upon it ! Ameen
Shamsi has a good point at 5:30 tbh, based on ahadith, the sahabah themselves were very inquisitive (May Allah have mercy on them all) so if there was any confusion in the ma’ana of certain ayahs of the Quran, they would’ve definitely brought it up the Prophet(صلى الله عليه وسلم). I never thought of it like that
100%
Refuting the ashari beliefs is really important since many Muslim have been mislead and have adopted some of the ashari due to it having become common nowadays... so the rafidah zaydiyah tablighis and the sufiyyah all have ashari beliefs within their beliefs when it comes to names and attributes of Allah... May Allah reward Shamsi for going deep and clarifying it
bro what is Ashrafi and salaf?
@@memomyj4505 its a creed in islam which says Allah exists without a place,but in reality,Allah is above the throne
@@memomyj4505 they have false beliefs about Allah and his attributes, sect in Islam ashari maturidi, stick to salafi Islam
@@abbou1218 when did any of them say they are ashari or have those beliefs? Prove they didn't believe Allah is above his throne as he said do in the Quran, and if those scholars or my dad says otherwise I would take what Allah
Brother I dont think the Zaidiyyah are rafidi, they refuse to curse Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman unlike the other shias
its like everything is clear to me now.
Apparently he’s Zaidi now.... goes to show guidance is only in the hands of Allah ta’ala! May Allah guide us all to the straight path!
This video Shamsi just puts up, is this from this week? Cause the zaydi one from moe deen was old
Danial Sec B-roll 8
This video is much older than the recent one where the Ash’ari (in this video) states that he’s Zaydi now.
الله المستعان
Aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah in regards to the names and attributes of Allah (the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and his companions رضي الله عنهم اجمعين):
-Affirm for Allah what he attributes to himself in the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah in a way that befits His majesty.
In the following way:
-Don’t resemble the attributes to anything as there is nothing like Allah.
“There is nothing like Him: He is the All Hearing, the All Seeing.” (42:11)
-Don’t Distort/change or specify about the attributes what Allah hasn’t.
-Don’t ask how the attribute exactly is (as no one has ever seen Allah).
-Don’t negate/reject the attributes of Allah.
They made not a just estimate of Allah as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection, the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Exalted is He, free of all imperfections, High above all that they associate as partners with Him.’ (Surah Az-Zumar: 67)
“And the Jews say, ‘The hand of Allah is tied up.’ Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His Hands are extended, He spends however He wills…” (Al-Mā’idah: 64)
“[Allah] said, ‘O Iblees, what prevented you from prostrating to that which I created with My hands? Were you arrogant [then], or were you [already] among the haughty?’” [Saad 38:75].
“(Remember) the Day when the Shin shall be laid bare (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) and they shall be called to prostrate themselves (to Allâh), but they (hypocrites) shall not be able to do so.” (68:42)
“And the Face of your Lord full of Majesty and Honour will abide forever.”
(55:27)
“And I endued you with love from Me, in order that you may be brought up under My Eye” (20:39)
“Floating under Our Eyes, a reward for him who had been rejected!” (54:14)
“Everything will perish except His Face.” (28:88)
Side point: The Hadith About 2 Right Hands:
"And both of His hands are right (يَمِينٌ) hands."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
The word يَمِينٌ/ يُمنا comes from the word, Blessed = تَيَمُّن, this Hadith is talking about how Allah’s hands are blessed. Simple.
Salafi’s do not believe that the hands of Allah are organs at the end of the forelimb of certain vertebrates that exhibits great mobility and flexibility in the digits and in the whole organ. It is made up of the wrist joint, the carpal bones, the metacarpal bones, and the phalanges.
Salafi’s don’t believe the shin of Allah mentioned in the Qur’an is the front part of the leg below the knee.
Salafi’s don’t believe the eye which Allah mentions about himself in the Qur’an is made up of three coats, which enclose the optically clear aqueous humour, lens, and vitreous body. The outermost coat consists of the cornea and the sclera; the middle coat contains the main blood supply to the eye and consists, from the back forward, of the choroid, the ciliary body, and the iris.
These are human attributes ^. Allah’s attributes are not like ours. They befit His majesty.
"And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him." (112:4)
“And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allâh, so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His Names. They will be requited for what they used to do.” (7:180)
MashAllah keep up the good work brothers. Can we see more of the brother with glasses. I feel he is good explaining but is often cut off. Give him platform to speak. I would be interested in seeing that
ماشاء الله واسأل ان يهدينا ويهدي اخينا يوسف وجميع المسلمين على اتباع كتابه وسنة رسوله عليه افضل الصلاه والسلام وعلى آله وصحبه أجمعين
in this clip, shamsi and the brother adam explained the aqeedah of ahlusssunnah wal jama'a and the manhaj of the salaf in Allah aza wa jal's names and attributes.
But the funny thing is, that mohammed hijab made jokes about this brother and said : "You was first an ashari, and then MADKHALI and then shi'e"
Look how mohammed hijab calls the things brother shamsi and adam, was explaining to be "MADKAHLI" if you accept what they said, when they only said the aqeedah of ahlusunnah.
Good hearted brother Allahuma batik, may Allah accept from him
Unfortunately most of the ummah has a lot of ashari believes, if you catch an average Muslim on the street and tell him Allah has a face, he will get offended and start staring at you weird, this happened to me too, ALHAMDULILAH I managed to convince him , 🤜🤛
You tell random Muslims on the streets that Allah has a face? Maybe there's a reason they stare at you..
Can u explain to me breifly ?
@@lovesharing3952 the comment is very brief.
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp3913 IThinkHeIsAskingForTheExplanationOf'AllahHasAFace'InBrief
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp3913 no i mean ''allah face" and asharia briefly
وَٱلرَّٰسِخُونَ فِى ٱلْعِلْمِ يَقُولُونَ ءَامَنَّا بِهِۦ كُلٌّ مِّنْ عِندِ رَبِّنَاۗ
Having understanding on this matter, sects, is as equally as important weapon like having understanding about the belief of christianity, Jews, protestant & others ... if we are open minded, very few evidences are large enough and it's not complex too
Alhamdulillah he made awekers like Shamsi to us,
Poutine is not asking these questions out of sincerity.... he's trying to test peoples knowledge and embarass them. He tried this with Adnan Rashid as well. Alhamdulliah you can't play these games with Shamsi cause he has a solid foundation masha'allah
Man said poutine 😭
U have no shame
Surah 3 verse 7 says 'And no one knows it's interpretation except Allah:
It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muḥammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific.1 As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allāh. But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.
- Saheeh International
First comment on RUclips allah Akbar, Salam to DUS DAWAH
As Ibn outhaimin may Allah have mercy upon him said Ashari are not from Ahl- Assuna Wal Jamaa because of their belief about the attributes of Allah S.W.T but Al Athari are from Ahl- Assuna Wal Jamaa
he didn’t say that akhi please don’t lie against Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen رحمه الله
He said that the Ash’aris are from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah concering what they agree with Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah and they are not Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah concering what they disagree with Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah upon, as they only affirm for Allah 7 sifaat (attributes)n
Muaaz akhi, I think you misunderstood the what the brother said. He’s correct for saying there not from ahlul-Sunnah. When the scholars say those statements, they’re truthful in their speech رحمهم الله وحفظهم الله. You can make the same argument for majority of the sects in Islam. الشاهد, those sects left the fold of ahlul-Sunnah wal jam’ah because of their innovations e.g. Asharis.
He never said that loooool
This guy is a zaydi, he lied before when he said he was ashari or salafi.
Naam ahki but the ashari beliefs are also adopted by the Zaydis and others from ppl zanadiqah and falsehood
Yahya no akhi he was Ashari for real then turned salafi and now he’s zaidi he’s just one confused individual may Allah guide him
@@Yahya-gw5qw astaghfirullah, zaydis and asharis are Muslims and there is nothing deviant in their beliefs. Even twelver shias are Muslim eventhough they are deviant and false.
@@fatoumfatoumeh 12 Shia are rafidah. They are not Muslims
@@Yahya-gw5qw like Omar ibn zindiq right?
Why’s this yusif guy asking the same questions every week 🤦🏿♂️ as well as changing his ways every week.. smh, confused boy.
"youre just cutting in like a shaytan man, gow away man' 😂😂
😂 Thought I was the only one that heard it
wallahi sometimes i hear these discussions and remember that we are wasting time on this earth. Some of us cant even get the basics of worshipping right such as praying and reading quran correctly and consistently, yet we go to things that are above our heads.
To understand the Names and Attributes of Allah is part of a Muslim's Tawheed, it has to be understood before understanding other acts of worship.
It's not above our heads, it's how the companions of the prophet ﷺ understood it and the rest of the Salaf. There's no need for philosophical rhetoric to understand the texts of the Qur’an and Sunnah, its already clarified, we only have to accept and follow the early understanding.
@@yahyamohamed2472 The layman has no madhab, and no one is obligated to follow any formulated aqeedah school.
@@geeljire9247 Do you agree that the companions of the messenger Muhammad ﷺ were upon one way in terms of the fundamental beliefs ('aqeedah)?
As salam alaykoum
Maybe you can give the example of someone who is blind since birth. You can explain him the concept of color, give him the definition of color, but he can't conceive that reality. It's beyond his capacity.
(Sorry for my bad english)
Who is the brother who spoke first with the glasses (ta barak Allah) broke it down very well. Would of been better to let him continue and finish.
Brother Adam
@@Sir.T shukran.
Noticed him a few times. Brother has a very articulate way of explaining which I like. Allahumma barik.
Alhamdulilah finally there is new video from shamshi
Aal-e-Imran 3:7
هُوَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ مِنْهُ ءَايَٰتٌ مُّحْكَمَٰتٌ هُنَّ أُمُّ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ وَأُخَرُ مُتَشَٰبِهَٰتٌۖ فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ فِى قُلُوبِهِمْ زَيْغٌ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ مَا تَشَٰبَهَ مِنْهُ ٱبْتِغَآءَ ٱلْفِتْنَةِ وَٱبْتِغَآءَ تَأْوِيلِهِۦۗ وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُۥٓ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُۗ وَٱلرَّٰسِخُونَ فِى ٱلْعِلْمِ يَقُولُونَ ءَامَنَّا بِهِۦ كُلٌّ مِّنْ عِندِ رَبِّنَاۗ وَمَا يَذَّكَّرُ إِلَّآ أُو۟لُوا۟ ٱلْأَلْبَٰبِ
It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.
Before people see this vid the editor should censor shamsi’s phone number we can hear it
Alhamdulillah
I need his number what is it I can’t hear it right brother i am from egypt don’t worry
Dus said it’s an old number
Is this recent? because recently, he was in the park claiming he’s a zaydi !?
- Also, he was claiming in a video (w/ Ali Drama) that he lied being a salafi the whole time after Shamsi clarified his confusion back in the beginning of 2020.
So again, is this new or old? BarakAllahu Feekum.
Edit: Ali Drama claimed that he said the same thing to Yusuf as Shamsi did, but clearly you can see the difference in their knowledge.
He now claims to be Shia he’s a devil
No I'm pretty sure that this is pt2 of the old vid when he was "ashari"
@@amir123786 as shamsi said this guy is a joke
@@amir123786 he claims to be a zaydi which are closer to sunnis then ithna asharis
@@smilemore8744 they are still from the people of dhalala
This is your Chechen brother ya yusuf stick with brother shamsi he has the truth with him wal hamdulilah.
Ma shaa’ Allaah I see there are more Chechen Salafis than I thought there were...
Isray Ferlani surely all praise and thanks is due to Allah May Allah guide the people of chechnya and the whole ummah as whole to the manhaj of salaf I Salih ameen.
@K C the companions saw Jibreel
Sa wash hu mechar wu?
@@TRTR744 so America ash wu baxmabil so noxchi muat dik bats.
mashaallah brothers may Allah preserve you and keep you on the right path
This Yusuf is like Godwin. He's been going on about this Man'at issue for at least two years.
What happened to the brother with the glasses very knowledgeable
This is a cool angle
like were part of the crowd init
Skills. Lol
@@aminking6565 Feel like im there haha
This is what being short feels like
That ‘asharia’ guy is confused.
He's literally a liar, he tried to confuse everyone else but just exposed himself
Yup. He got exposed
Lol and Ali dawah kept saying, Shamsi just said the same as him
Haha
There’s level to this
Where did he say that?
Ali has delusions of grandeur
did Ali say " i said just like Shamsi said ?"
Is it old ? Or its soo cold in london?
Today
Was it today?
Old
Its old
I can not understand!
Some say the video is new, others say it is old !!!
This guy changes sects like i change videos 😂😂
Physical is connected to physics. Physics is a creation of Allah subhan hu wa tala
So happy he is back on the right path I even forgot everything he’s done with the shiaa guy
Its an old video
H R
Where is his video with the shia guy?
Esselamualeykum ve rahmetullah ve barakatuhu. Can you please tell me where the Ayah is which brother shamsi tells in minute 8:44 . Very important. Cezakumullahu hairan
Come on .. :(
Does anyone one know the terms SHAMSI used I can’t find it. I believe he said tahrif kuli and tahrif juzni. When I search for them I can’t find any explanation.
Akhi can we get a video refuting the beliefs of the ahmediya group in detail and collapsing their beliefs? They have been causing doubts among Muslims and twisting Quran and Hadith to fit their agenda. That will be a very beneficial video for most of us. Barakallahu feek.
sudeis shikur surah Ahzaab, Verse 40
“Muhammad (SAW) is not the father of any man among you, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allah is Ever All-Aware of everything.” Translation: Muhsin Khan
Ahmediyyah aslan aren’t muslims similar to the Shia/Raafidah.
J Knox السلام عليكم, Akhi/Akhtii, I’m not going to entertain the idea that the Shia/ Rāfidah are “Muslims”. They aren’t Muslims and go search our books for proofs. Shaykh Ali ibn Yahya Al-Hadādī حفظه الله wrote a short Risālah called “A gift to the Sunni, demolishing the creed of the Shia”. It’s no more than 115 pages. Come back to me once you read it (btw, there’s an English pdf online) and tell me how they’re “Muslims”! You’ll find out who’s the real “nutjob”. BarakAllahu Feek.
@J Knox Sorry but they're not muslims.
Where can I learn more about aqeedah? Any RUclips channels? Shamsi explained it well. Otherwise I have seen many videos that don’t go into details and leave people hanging with questions.
List of important books for every student of knowledge: ruclips.net/video/IDkv271M0jo/видео.html
who is the brother who's talking at the first of the video?
Isnt this guy a liar? I remember a video of him with Mo deen the shia guy and pretty sure hes shia as well
The guys like the British weather.
Alhamdullilah
shamsi is undoubtly the only one who give arguments from quaran and sunnah not like ali dawah making stuff from his mind and from philosophy ..
Baaraka Allaahu Feekom
لماذا لا توجد ترجمة ضعو جامات حتى يراها صاحب القناة
فيه قنوات اخرى مترجمه
@@hr1479 القنوات الاخرى كلها تابعة لبنو اخونج هذه القناة جميلة و خاصة شمسي
How clear should Allah make it when He Says ,,, Laisa Ka Mislihi Shai;un wa huwa Samee Baseer. We should really Stop Delving in it to Deep, our Aql will not grasp it.
CAN YOU PLEASE CUT THE PART OUT AT 26:26 please think about the privacy of people!!!
This is his channel so he is probably aware of it.
@@ziyadfara4760 no he miss this part i think he should cut it
It’s Shamsi’s old number
Lol The Panda is back, mo deen’s boyfriend.
Yo man said panda I’m dead bruddah 😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ibrahiimm12 lol
24:25 what does he mean by many things changed? Can someone please explain
Many things changed as in people starting innovating things
Anwar. You left shamsi number on air again :/
I hope this bro Yousuf accept salafiyah
He is not Salafi, but Zaydi.
Was this vid before covid? They not social distancing
Assalamu alaik ikhwan we can hear bro shamsis no
Salaam alaykum uploader, please confirm if this is recent because Shamsi spoke to this person quite some time ago who claimed to have accepted Salafiyyah afterwards. Yet he now masquerades around as a Zaydi apparently.
Fraaz Akhter
Where did he say he is a zaydi?
@@BakrAli10 in some more recent videos from what I remember. Could be wrong but I'm quite sure he did
@@BakrAli10 when he and Moe Deen were debating with Adnan Rashid
Subhanallah! Simple Yusuf! Why iits some complicated?
Omdz it’s the “mana” guy 🤦
ROFL
Can anyone suggest me a book on Allah's names and attributes !
salafibookstore.com/product/exemplary-principles-concerning-the-beautiful-names-and-attributes-of-allah/
Search kitab al asma wa sifat by Imam Baihaqi, make sure it's lebanon version
Is this old video
Brother cut shamsis number out for his privacy JazākAllāhu khairan
Chicken Marsala alright brother.
Shamsi says his number in this video u might wanna take it out
What is the number i cant hear it right
It’s available on twitter too so I don’t think it’s a problem Allāhu a’lam
Afwaan DUS have said it’s an old number that shamsi mentions in the vid
Mr Ma’na
This guy isn't an Ash'ari and he doesn't have any teacher, to base his argument as your scale to weigh Ash'ari school is flawed. Ash'aris are indeed Ahl al-Sunna. We would love to see you folk consider Ash'ari imams, such as al-Suyuti, al-Haytami, al-'Asqalani, al-Nawawi, al-Ghazali, al-Juwayni, Ibn Furak, al-Subki, Ibn al-Subki, al-Baqillani, etc. out of Ahl al-Sunna. Further the fact that you think you won an argument with a pseudo-Ash'ari who claimed to be "Salafi," "Zaydi," and what not really shows your intellectual honestly.
Exactly, the asharis and the maturidis are all branches of sunni deobandis
Unless theyre not referring to ashari as the Ahl Sunnah but the shia branch the tenners so Asharis ???
Exactly, they are not Sunnis in Aqidah(this part). Let me add Ibn al-Jawzi, Ibn Hazm. Oh man, you are really far away from the truth. Learn the Aqidah of the Salaf from their books. That some Ulama felt into some mistakes, doesn't mean Ash'ariyyah are right. Moreover, they are not from Ahlu-Sunnah.
Shamis number 26:24
I could not quite hear the beginning
26:35 cut the brothers number out the video
This ashari comes in every video asking the same question
I'd rather if you leave him brothers
Looks like an old video
So out of all the religion this guy can't get the "ma'na" of the hand out of his head.. someone pulls him out he's sticking to close to the picture and can only see the pixels
He is not a ashari, he is a closet shia
I don't believe this guy is a liar , just believe was little confused, and wanted to know the truth and when it makes sense he understands , thats all.
Lately he claims to be a zaydi, together with a shia.
A W
Where did he claim that?
@@BakrAli10 in a video with Brother Adnan Rashid
@@falsehoodrefuted
What's the name of the video brother? Or when was it and which channel
Whos the clown that kept disturbing Shamsi?
💓 💓 💓
Wahhabiyyah Najdiyyah is against the majas of the Qur'an
Salafism= anthropomorphism
This prople are arguing about the hand of Allah when they don't know how to make wudu or pray or when is Ramadhaan, jumu'ah, laylatul Qdr or the day of Arafat!
Brother this guy is fool, you have put clear proof he will never will be guided unless Allah guides him, may Allah guide him.
Alter it. Can hear the brothers number !!
“The salaf”😂
neebs gaming
The asharis are the true mujassims. They have these evil thoughts in their minds.
don't describe yourself
@@GuidaSunnita then why do you get mujaism images?
@@discordalt1724 images are haram. Don't make urself look like a fool.
@@GuidaSunnita ?
@@GuidaSunnita sorry not interested in humiliating a mentally ill dog
The ma'na guy. Lol. A joke.
He is a kid man
Sa'fuq
What is salafi? Basically wahabi?
ruclips.net/video/RhZWBD4FRZc/видео.html
What is wahabi?
Johnwick 97 wahhabis.com ->this will answer you confusion akhi.
The Legendary Outdoorsman here’s a nice website in understanding that term wahhabis.com
Johnwick 97. This answers your question: salaficentre.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/thewahhabimyth.pdf