Refilling The Camp Stove Canister
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- DISCLAIMER!: The canisters clearly say NOT to refill them... but I like living on the edge and I've seen it done. So in an effort to save some money over the long-term and reduce waste, we go off on the adventure of trying to refill our camp stove canisters! (I intentionally kept the kids away for this adventure.)
Warning... several clips suffered from FIFINES wireless lavalier malfunctions and are consequently hard to hear. I tried to boost the volume of said clips in post but when the video rendered there was some aweful clicking and popping!! I figured the low volume was less annoying. My apologies for that and an upgrade is on the way!
I didn’t see you use the blowoff valve - which in my opinion is the best feature of that particular unit compared to the simpler version - and honestly makes it so you don’t have to freeze the cans to fill.
I will attach the adapter to the empty, blowoff until it slows down to get any pressure out of the can, then when you fill, it wants to equalize pressure and rushes into the empty can. Then you can blowoff again with both attached to create a little more space to get a full can.
I have like 6 small cans and only buy big ones now. Really great because I too have “not full can” anxiety when i hit the backcountry and this is more cost effective. I’m planning to do a video on my process as well. Cheers!
Oh man, great information!! Ya i didn't even know that was a feature! Like i said, not many videos out there about it! Yours will be a welcome addition!!
The easy way is to heat the big can with a bath in warm water.
30-40°C will be good.
Provided you DO use the blow off valve feature, you might as well not bother with your refills unless you refill directly from a combination on propane and butane sources. I do, and the cost advantage as well as the hotter mixes I create for winter camping make refills worth while for my purposes.
Oh I just keep it simple and put the exact same fuel in the canisters. The bigger cans are enough of a savings for megiven our frequency of use!
No need to return the small canisters to the freezer.
Use the purge valve to release the gas untill the liquid fuel sprays out of the valve.
When you see liquid spray coming out... open the valve again to add more fuel.
Ya I've been learning alot since posting this video!! Thanks for contributing!! 🤜 🤛
Is there a link to that little valve?
@funnyfarmdad9997 Here you go, G-WORKS Gas Saver Plus/Lindal... www.amazon.com/dp/B00U2EE6M2?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Refilling with cheap butane fuel for summer months is the way to go, just get the other adapter 👍💳
Ya as long a the canisters can handle it go for it!! Gotta save money somehow!! Thanks for commenting! 🤜 🤛
They warm up quite a bit from the gas condensing into the receiving cartridge. I had to repeatedly cool the small cartridge when I did something similar the other day. It would probably transfer more in each who l shot of the full cartridge was warm, either from a higher ambient temperature or very cautious heating.
My adapter doesn't have a blow-off valve, so I haven't tried that.
That's interesting! I haven't experienced either of the canisters warming up other than the ones i put in the freezer returning to room temperature! Is that what you mean or do you mean they actually got hot? 🤔
@@DMSAdventures Not hot, but above ambient. It only has to get a little bit warmer for the pressures to equalise.
Right on dude. Can you mention the name brand of the filler valve you used. I've read mixed reviews on Amazon for these things. Apparently some don't work. Thanks.
Here is an amazon link (non-affiliate) Its a G-works Gas Saver Plus. G-WORKS Gas Saver Plus/Lindal Valve Canister Shifter/Refill Adapter/Air Vent Function www.amazon.com/dp/B00U2EE6M2/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_P4P04XAEY46RZZE2RSW1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@DMSAdventures Thanks very much. Cheers!
@@Imightberiding g-works is the only one I’ve used that works as advertised. Make sure to get the blowoff valve version. It’s more expensive but makes it very quick and easy to fill and non need to freeze a can. I will be doing a video on this process soon. Cheers!
Hey thanks for your input! I'm glad there is a conversation going on about this!! Your video will be a much needed addition to what's out there!!
@@LaconianConcepts Thanks for the additional info. I think DMS Adventures mentioned this in his video & link but referred to it as an air vent function instead of blow off valve. At any rate, I did indeed go with his original suggestion & as it turned out is the same one that you also agreed with: the G-Works brand with the air vent/ blow off valve. Thanks dude.
I never have seen much of a point in doing this. First I'm usually flying out to a destination to go backpacking, so I need to purchase fuel there and leave it behind. But that's just me.
Next, how many trips are people taking a year? I get the larger canisters are more cost-effective but most people are not taking that many trips a year where they have a bunch of canisters rolling around.
I know that the flip fuel valve cost about $30, there are certainly cheaper ones, but how much fuel do you have to transfer to make up the cost of the valve? What is your time worth in doing this?
I just buy new, I'll use it for small outings, or run my thermacell, or donate them.
Hey there! Ya man you do you! Obviously if you're traveling there is no point. I haven't ever done anything other than drive to a destination. To me it's more of a waste of time to quantify how much money in saving than to just give it a spot. This video is one of our older ones But I am still using the same 4 canisters that are in this video! Overall it's been worth my time but I would not try to convince anyone that it is for them. Thanks for taking the time to comment. 🤜🤛
Absolutely massive savings I get 28 refills that cost me 57 dollars if I brought the canister I would only get 5 for 50 dollars so go do the maths
Thank you for the info.
You are very welcome! Glad we could help!! 😁
Great review, will be getting an adapter shoŕtly
Thank you!! I'm glad it was helpful!! I'm still filling some of the same canisters in this video!!
How do I find that transfer valve on Amazon? Whats it called? Thanks for the video
Here you go, G-WORKS Gas Saver Plus/Lindal... www.amazon.com/dp/B00U2EE6M2?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Respect for using metric.
🤜🤛 always try to if i remember!
thanks
You're very welcome!!
Do you still refill? I bought a 3 piece kit. Butane valve, propane valve, and iso mix valve. I get it tomorrow from Amazon.
I haven't recently but i still intend to! Awesome, let the savings begin!!
Be careful filling with propane, it's not recommended for these isopro canisters as the vapour pressure is higher. They will burst or explode!! Isopro mix with butane has 1/2 the vapour pressure so the can is too thin for pure propane. That's why the 1 pound Coleman propane canisters are so heavy and thick.
@@ebikecnx7239 thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. Definitely want to be safe.
@@unpavedexplorer338 No problem, I refill all the time with pure butane as I am in a tropical climate. If I was somewhere colder I would use the bigger 450g isopro mix canister to refill the smaller ones with, but I would never try to refill a isopro canister with propane.
@@ebikecnx7239 I am in Cleveland Ohio. I will definitely give your recommendations a try. Thanks for your help.
Is there a way to refill the big canister?
If you mean the bigger canisters of the same shape then yes you can.
I just buy a whole box of isobutane 220g packet of s 4 canisters x 7 for $57 so 28 refills for 57 dollars one xan cost $1.80 rather rhan 7 dollars upto 13 dollars for a 230g here in new Zealand so massive savings
That's great to hear! Ya I'm sure regions play a big part of how much one can save! I wouldn't say I've had MASSIVE savings but significant enough to keep doing it.
@@DMSAdventures absolutely 57 compared to 280 at 10 dollars a can of isobutane massive savings for myself
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That's weird. It's still getting views. Thanks for letting me know!
@@DMSAdventures Still counts as a view just by going to your video.
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Hi,
Thanks for the video, it was very informative, may I ask if you could share a link to where to get the little refill device you used please?
You are very welcome! Thanks for watching and reaching out!! Here is the link you requested. Let me know if it doesnt work. www.amazon.com/dp/B00U2EE6M2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_3zqQN2ihrejUR
@@DMSAdventures hi.
That works great thank you 🙏👍
Was the refill gas the same mix or different?
It was actually different and that was a mistake on my part. I got lucky because I was putting in a lower pressure mix into a higher pressure cannister! When I do it now I am sure to use the same mix!! Great question!
@@DMSAdventures great, thanks for the swift reply. I’ve seen a few channels that are putting pure butane in MSR iso cannisters and claiming you can get more in!
@@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse Hey no problem! It seems unsafe enough with all the warnings NOT to do it... I wouldn't want to add to that by putting gas into a cannister not designed for it!!
@@DMSAdventures agreed! Though I have a load of those flat stove butane canisters that look like aerosols and just replaced them with a pocket rocket. You can buy the adapter for them too. The cheapskate in me is tempted!
Though I know I shouldn’t be!
@@DMSAdventures propane has 4x the vapour pressure of butane so adding butane to a isopro can is going to be erring on the safer side. That's why the butane canisters are thinner and like a hair spray can compared to the thicker propane canister.
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For a short time camping is useless complete fulled the little tank.
Its good for anxiety to have a full tank!!