Isobutane Canister Stove Fuel Test - Which is the best?
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2020
- This episode of The Sideburn Hunter talks all about Isobutane fuel canisters. We test 230g /4 oz fuel cartridges to see how much fuel they contain, how hot they burn, how quickly they boil water, and how long the canisters last. This is great info for hunters, hikers, backpackers, and campers. The results were not what I expected.
Products tested:
Coleman Performance Fuel Blend
MSR Isopro
SnowPeak Giga Power
Jetboil Jetpower
Olicamp Rocket Fuel
Perune Isobutane Fuel Cartridge
Energy By Optimus
GSI Outdoors Fuel Cartridge
Primus Power Gas
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Demand for a cold weather test is high. Please give me some testing ideas and let me know what you would like to see. Thanks for watching!
You could put the fuel canisters in the refrigerator or freezer for say 3-4 hours then repeat your currents test. Use this information vs the low temp to show which ones are affected more
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Leave the canisters in a freezer over night then do the same test.
I think that will really separate out the good from the bad.
The primary culprit is butane, which stops vaporizing at 31 degrees Fahrenheit. (Isobutane-a chemical variation of butane-continues vaporizing down to 11 degrees Fahrenheit.) Isobutane is best. Boom, done.
Perhaps you could get access to a commercial walk-in freezer to do some testing. Leave the canisters inside over night then test lighting difficulty and boil time. Overall, (warm or cold) I think what’s important for me is availability and $/min of run time.
I'm an engineer in Alberta Canada. I spent 30 years working in natural gas facilities that extracted propane, n-butane and i-butane from natural gas streams. The composition of our product varied by 2% on a daily basis. In other words, I could sell you propane that was 95%-99% propane and 1%-4% ethane on any day. Same for all our other liquid streams. The companies that make these cartridges source their feed on the open market. They do a rough blend at their facility and then fill a batch of canisters. You could repeat your test with different canisters from the same company and get different results. I'll go out on a limb and say that there's not much difference between one brand and another because they all source the same product. In the past companies advertized a summer vs. winter blend. That made a difference because it changed the percentage of propane from 10% to 20%. I don't think anyone does that any more. Everyone sels an 80/20 blend in a heavier canister. Also, the difference between iso-butane and normal-butane is not significant as a fuel. We separate butane into its two isomers for the chemical industry. The butane found in fuel canisters is a blend of the two, even though most companies advertise iso-butane. Otherwise, cool video.
Martyupnorth I was wondering if barometric pressure on the day the canister is filled would effect how much fuel is in the canister? On higher pressure days do you get less fuel?
@@AdventureOtaku No, that's why they are filled by weight. You always get the same weight. But you are correct that volume is pressure and temperature dependent. The test results for the same canister will be different during different seasons and at different elevations. Years ago the manufacturers had a summer blend that was 90% butane and 10% propane and a winter blend that was 80% butane and 20% propane. The reason for the different blend was because at cold temperature a pure butane won't vaporize. It's all quite interesting. That's why these tests are fun, but have to be taken with a grain of salt.
@@Martyupnorth I haven't gone backpacking for a bit, but I had issues with some of those summer blend cans burning in cooler weather (40°F) vs the winter blends and that was a few years ago. So its my understanding they're still available.
@@johnnyboy8498 That's certainly possible. A 100% butane canister in freezing temperatures would barely vaporize.
@@AdventureOtaku no, the filling is fluid. No pressure! So at very low temp..
Great video! Another performance factor I looked at was dividing the time until empty with the time to boil to get an average number of boils per canister. Coleman=65, Olicamp=63, Perune=62, Energy=60, Primus=57, MSR=51, Jetboil=50, GSI=48, Snow Peak=48. If you boil an average of 3 times per day the Coleman canister will last roughly 6 days longer than the Snow Peak!
In the end, this is the only number that matters.
Makes lot more sense, thank you!
This is what I was going to recommend. Great work
I was going to recommend the same data.
Kinda/Sorta ... You'll probably get less number of boils because you lose some gas everytime you screw and unscrew the fuel canister to the stove.
This man is a legend. Not only is he speaking on screen, he's also transmitting the words in Morse code with his eye lids concurrently. I've never seen this on a youtube video before.
His eyes are saying torture.
Blinky bill
Between the editing and the information this is one of the best videos I've ever seen.
Great video, a lot of time and effort put into this test.
In the UK Coleman is the main contender so I'm glad it came out well in the test.
I really appreciate you taking the time to run the numbers on all of these different brands. With a ~2.5-3 hour runtime each this took quite a while to collect all of the data.
What more could you ask out of this video? Great job friend. Thank you!
Good test. As a control test it would be interesting to try several "identical" canisters of the same brand, perhaps bought over a period of time so they are from different production batches, to see if these inconsistencies still exist. It may be that no 2 cans are the same, even when from the same brand!
I love how detailed this test was! The graphs were a nice touch 🤌
After watching hundreds of videos on gas canisters and stoves, this video had more info than all the rest combined. I thank you:)
Epic exhaustive comparison, great job! If you ever wondered about this sort of thing, and most of us have, the sideburn hunter just answered it.
Coleman for me... always works and is available everywhere for a reasonable price. Thanks!
The most polite and soft spoken hunter. :) Keep it up. God Bless
Love the conclusion, 'just buy whatever'. Was thinking the whole way through who doesn't buy the cheapest / easiest to get hold of / what your local store stocks, glad to see I was right in my thinking.
You put a lot of work (and some money for canisters) into this. It was edited well and informative. Really well done effort, thanks for the video!
I would just like to thank you for your time and all the detail in this video. Thank you again!
Thanks man!
This was excellent. Right to the point, good looking bar graphs. It got me exactly what I needed (how many to bring on a trip). Nice going.
Excellent well thought out and organized video. Big kudos for the time it took to gather all this data and present it!
WOW.....AWESOME.....Thanks so much. This test was well prepared and executed. No BS or fillers. Use, application, consistency and quality control of course produce variables however....this is by far THE best video to give an idea of what to get...and what you're getting. Well done
What an excellent review! I've always thought about running this test but could never get my hands on that kind of variety. Subscribed. Best of luck in your future hunts!
Thanks man!
Thank you for putting in the time and money to do this test and share it!
Really interesting. Excellent content, editing!
Thanks for sharing.
This video was far more enjoyable than I thought it would be. It was actually very interesting. Good job.
You have a done a very thorough set of tests. That is good information
Thank you very much.
Without a doubt the best video on the subject topped up with great contributions
great reviews. much details and variables, yet highly informative. greetings from Indonesia!
Thanks for testing these. Good to know. I wouldn't have wanted to do this myself but I am happy you DID ! Thanks!!!
Just the facts I was looking for presented very well, consice and easy to understand. Excellent job Sir and thank you very much.
Thanks so much. Perfect measurement criteria. Perfect objective testing and data reporting with no meaningless chatter or speculation.
I totally put this on my Watch Later list thinking it was a Project Farm video but I was not disappointed!
Very interesting exercise. Thank you for your expense and time involved. From your data, I can see that I can figure out cost per minute of operation for each of the fuels you tested. In the end, this criteria makes the most sense for me to determine which fuel I will buy. Thanks for sharing...........
As a newbie backpacker, I was debating on which one to use but I was leaning towards the jetboil and thanks to this Great video I'm definitely going jetboil.
Great work.... Best video I watched so far covering this subject.
Man, I hope someone bought you a frosty pint for this one. OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!👏😄👏 Thanks for all the hard work and thanks for sharing!!
Thanks man!
Great video! very detailed and loved the graphs. good way to show data
Great video! Thanks for putting this out for all of us.
Thanks for the extensive testing. Great job. I would’ve come to the same conclusion before watching your video. There’s not enough difference between them all to make a difference it’s what’s available and what’s cheapest
This was a really useful video. Thanks for doing the research for all of us.
Appreciate the effort put into this video! Sure was a long task. Great job.
Great test, now I know what the deal is with these canisters. Thank you!
Thanks for doing this detailed comparison! I've often wondered about the differences in some of the brands I see....
Thanks for this. You have confirmed what I already surmised. Now there is empirical evidence to back it. Love my little pocket rocket style stove.
Great test and clearly presented. Thank you.
From your video I got the idea that in countries which don’t have very cold environment, the Colman is best choice because it last longer than the rest.
Thanks for comparing performance of different canisters, really helpful 🙏
Crazy how much effort you put into these tests. Though not "scientific" crazy to see how similar they all are
Great job man,
Thankful for the great content
Great testing it so useful for everyone
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good video, good info, good graphics, info was displayed well and easy to comprehend. What more do you want in a product comparison?
I have the jet boil and it's a small business in New England and it's incredible. Lasts a long time.
Looks like my own experience was in line with your testing, gonna keep getting Coleman since it's the cheapest. (Did find some off-brand cheaper once here in Finland but I got a hunch there burn time will be way shorter). As a hiker, I'm always looking to shave some weight so the extra burn time/gram is way more important than the temp.
Great job! I’m lucky as I have several purchasing options in my town.
Great video brother!! Thanks for all your observation and feedback!
Good interesting test. Most of the time I buy Jetboil, I get it for a good price, and it performs good for me in colder weather. Thanks and take care.
I had to give this video a like for all the effort you went to make it thank you
Well done! I have always wondered myself. Nice information. I use these on all my backpacking trips. Great video and channel. Subscribed. Crow✌️
Thanks for the accurate, detailed information. Great work 👏
I just had a boil fail in -8 degrees Celsius. Warm crunchy noodles was the end result. This was using a Coleman can and BRS burner. Next time out in the cold temps I will be using my MSR whisperlite. Great video!
I have had very good luck with my olicamp stove and fuel. I love it
fun to see the data. Good job and a reasonable conclusion. Thanks.
Thank you for a very interesting comparison that answered many questions. That's a like and a sub, for sure!
Olicamp FTW really. Great winter performance too.
Great video, love all the info and the graphs helped.
That was awesome, Thanks. Looking forward to your channel.
Thats a great test, there is off course a slight variable where some of the gases are designed to work for a specific product but overall its a great test.
I have done close to the test you did .. I bought 4 different brands i could find local just to see where i was at on performance and boll times .. I did not weigh the canisters before and after the tests .. Your test is a lot more more in depth than mine by far .. Just something i was curious about when i started to use canister stoves 20 years ago .. I still use white gas stoves and have always liked them for the passed 50 years plus .. Canister stoves are not the Holy Grail of cooking or boiling water , they are just very small and very easy to work with .. But it adds up inside my pack either a 2.4 ounce stove or 17 ounce stove ..Each have their place out there .. With White Gas the price of fuel comes out to $0.08 per ounce, while a Snow Peak 220 gram ctg for $4.99 comes out $0.62 per ounce and i get around the same time out of 220 gram ctg which is real close to 3 hours depending on the flame setting control , i have had 4 hours out of a ctg before ....great test thanks for this one ..
Amazingly great video! What great information, thanks so much for your video.
This video is reassuring... thx for putting the time in.
This has helped me pick one for my army kit, I have a jet boil and a Kombat stove. But to have a fuel that heats up fast is important for me
im glad I picked the primus. the saving of a $1 and some change..will helps in the long run.
FANTASTIC DATA. Excellent notes regarding labels. Really solid value can be gained from this video. I wish more content providers would provide the due diligence, detail, and value you have here. Scientific Method approved!!! Notes: include temperature of the fuel canister, water, cooking vessel, burner, and room during tests to control variables. There was a 1 gram variance in Coleman fuel from the beginning and end of the video. Nitpicking notes: better control the ignition of the fuel and timing to ensure consistency, make sure the control knob position is always consistent (if not controlled already). Weigh in-between first burn and long burn. Document testing parameters for long burn EG: how did you determine the tank was empty, did you leave it open for an hour to ensure. I know it's in a basement but humidity, wind guard, the time between tests. etc. Bottom line this is a fantastic video, please, Please, PLEASE DO NOT LET MY NITPICKING DETRACT FROM THE VALUE HERE.. Way above what most review videos are. Empirical, testable, documented facts and data are present. And after collating the data myself I completely recommend the Oilcamp. It has the lowest price point as of December 2021. It contained the (acceptable variance) correct amount of fuel at 229 grams. Had the 3rd best overall burn time (pending controlled room/water/cooking vessel/burner temperatures and ignition/control knob standardization) and had the second-highest number of boils per container at 63. Therefore you will pay $.08 USD per 11.6 oz boil. Based on the data here you will pay $4.95 be able to boil 16.5oz of water 63 times per canister. Outstanding and fine work @TheSideburnHunter
What a great comparison. Thank you for this information.
You did an awesome job on this. Awesome video 👌
Great video! Thanks for the testing
Excellent test and while I thought the Olikamp was best overall, the Coleman choice makes sense given how available it is. I refill mine from cheap butane aerosol canisters and during the colder months use an alcohol stove but this test certainly proved your point that the margins of performance are too slim to be bothered.
Great job, I’ve always wondered about the differences.
As a backpacker I would be looking for the most water boiled for the weight. For a long hike you would want to keep the cartridge count down.
For a shorter trip like you say go for price and availability.
Thanks.
And this is where the system becomes more important than the fuel canister itself. A Jetboil flux ring stove/pot system puts more of those expended BTUs into the water, than a traditional stove/pot combo, meaning shorter burn time to reach boil, and in turn, less fuel expended. (and less needed to be packed)
Eat the high cost up front, then enjoy superior performance using cheap Primos canisters for a lifetime.
Great video. Way to keep it real. The margins are too small to make a real difference. Love the data. Thanks for sharing. 🏆
You have a scientists mind, went about so methodically! Good job.. Thanks a lot
Excellent testing! I guess it doesn't really matter what you choose in the end. I wonder if the differences you were seeing came down to quality control at the factory. If you took new canisters from the same brands and tested them again, maybe the results would change completely?
That’s a great topic to research and discuss!
Finally someone knows how to make science-based videos.... thanks man, very helpful
Great video! I usually go with perune because I like the way it looks, and the price isn't bad.
Where do you get it? How much $?
Great video! I've always wondered what gas was the best!
Excellent testing, great video! Thanks
Excellent vid, answered many questions. Thanks
Great test, I can't wait to see more content. I would love to see a below-freezing test
I did one, go check it out!
Very usefull informations. Thank you for you take this work to create this video !
The environmental temperature is also a very important factor, according to some of the brands themselves. The Primus supposedly had a blend that will perform better in lower temps.
Thank you for the very informative video. I appreciate the time you spent on the testing for the benefit oy your viewers.
Good,honest analysis. Much appreciated.
Good video. I bought one of those Coleman canisters a couple years ago for a backpacking trip and when I unscrewed the stove the canister didn't seal. The fuel continued to leak out. I had to put the stove back on until I used it all. I vowed then never to buy the Coleman again but maybe I should give it another chance.
I loved how thorough you were and I loved your conclusion even more! Not enough difference to go out of your way for one or the other!
This guy is the man. Thanks for the research!!
Excellent data collection. Much appreciated.
Thanks for watching!
Great job. Consider adding a measure: amounts of boils from a cartridge (total burn time/time to boil the test amount of water in min). That would be for me the ultimate one!
What a great review! Liked and subscribed. Greetings from Sweden.
Excellent detailed report. Informative. Thank you.
Thank you for your time, very well done WOW
Wow, you wouldn’t expect such differences!
I appreciate the amount of work that went into this and your conclusion. Hopefully this comment will help your algorithm.
one of the best review ive ever seen. Thanks.