I'm pretty sure part of the reason the manufacturer puts a warning to not refill would be their profit margins on sales lol. That's such a handy and cost-effective hack. The full and empty weight of the canister is such a great idea and something I wouldn't have thought of the first time I gave that a try. Thank you Mike! :)
Hi Christine...Thanks for watching and commenting....I'm sure company profits are the main concern with the warnings like you said. But unfortunately, not everyone is as sensible as we probably are and a few might try and fill the cannisters to the top (and that could be dangerous.) Using common-sense, and weighing as you go, I think you should be fine. I have been filling these for years, and never had an issue. In fact, the blue can I refilled in the film is about 7 years old and they have redesigned that particular can now So you cant even buy it anymore......Saved me many hundred's of £'s over the years...And I'm still alive to show how its done...lol....ATB....Mick
I have not seen "CampingGaz" butane tanks in America, since the late 1970's - early 1980's. And then, they were pre-screw on tanks! They had a puncture & seal method of tapping the gas tanks.
Hi John...Thanks for watching and commenting ....useful money saving idea for anyone who enjoys regular camping or hiking....stay safe and well my friend...Mick
I fill mine from a Calor Gas bottle, when I need to top up or re fill. Can take quite a while and stop often to check out the weight to see were I am at fill wise. I recently bought an adapter with a longer hose to aid filling, by being able to get a rough idea of weight without having to keep taking the re fill cartridge off to check weight. I mainly refill the large green Coleman bottles and my Pumping gas torch. Saves a fortune as neither are cheap, and the Colemans isn't always easy to get hold of.
Hi..thanks for watching and commenting...Yes, I have seen that sort of set up being used on RUclips. I don't own anything that takes the 1lb Coleman bottles, but if I did, i would refill them like yourself. The smaller the canister, the more expensive the manufacturers make them, so definitely worth doing (as long as everyone checks how to do it safely and correctly)...ATB...Mick
Hi Kevin...Thanks for watching and commenting...Certainly worth knowing. the manufacturers don't like it (drains their pockets!) but save me a small fortune...ATB...Mick
I bought one of those do dads for my small Jetboil stove canister to top off from a larger one so I always had a full can to start a trip. Didn't buy it to save money, though.
Hi Mark...Thanks for watching and commenting....Yes another great reason to buy, You never really know how much fuel you have left in part used canisters?. So by weighing and topping up before a trip saves that constant worry about gas running out of gas half way through your trip.....ATB...Mick
Very interesting. I did not know you could refill the canisters. Nice money saving hack. Where I live over on the other side of the pond the price of a gas canister has almost doubled in the last few years.
Hi Scott...Thanks for watching and commenting...Unfortunately the canisters are price rocketing here too. In the UK energy prices have hit all time highs over the past year or two. I think people are using the smaller canister stoves for simple cooking to save using domestic stoves. As a result, the manufactures are becoming greedy and putting the prices up on canisters to maximise profits!...So refilling is even more useful at the minute....ATB...Mick
Absolutely fantastic, thank you. Will be getting myself an adapter asap. I do wonder whether measuring is necessary if you know how many cans go into a can, if you know what I mean?
@@FergusCarr Hi..thanks for watching and commenting..If you know the receiver canister is totally empty you can get away with just knowing how much gas is in the donor can. But i often refill half empty cans, to make sure i have a full one for camping. In that case you do need to weigh the receiving canister to make sure you dont overfill...ATB..Mick
@@MichaelGreenReviews I’ve literally just put it to the test myself and managed to put 172g isobutane/propane from a gas eurohike cartridge into the campingaz cv470+. I did find there to be some waste when pushing the can on and it spurting out. About 45g which is a fair amount. And I don’t think it was able to get the last 10g (which seems to have stayed in the donor cartridge) Also, it took bloody ages. But it did work, so thank you. Edit: I used the little brass nipple type adapter, I think I’ll get one of the ones with the translucent tube. Would be good if there was an adapter that converts the canister to twist lock campingaz directly like the screw thread
@@MichaelGreenReviews I live on a canal boat so I don’t have a freezer. But I did put it in my ice box for 10 mins and it did make it quicker. I also managed to hold it on more securely and made a more efficient transfer. I got 209g across from a 227g canister. Which is much better. I do wonder whether an adapter from canister to screw lock then an adapter from screw lock to twist lock might mean I can connect the canister directly. Also really wierd I just can’t get the last 15-20g out of the canister.
Great video! Can you not get an adapter that would screw onto the coleman canister and convert this to the camingaz type? Instead of refilling you could just but the cheaper coleman ones?
@@DuaneCowan Hi..Thanks for watching and commenting...unfortunately no, not in the UK at least. As shown, you can get adapters to turn Campingaz twist lock fit into colemen type screw thead, But not the other way around? Hence the need to refill the far more expensive Campingaz..ATB..Mick
Hi... I'm not sure which country you live in but if you live in the UK and type "gas refill adapter" into amazon you should get this page: www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=gas+refill+adapter&crid=1RAHUHEAVRXGA&sprefix=gas+refil%2Caps%2C73&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_7_9 This shows you many of the adapters I showed in the video....Hope the link works ok?....ATB...Mick
Is propane unavailable there in the UK? I think that is the real way to save money... it is something around $24 (£19) for a 20lb tank of propane here in the states. Another $20 for an adapter hose, and your cooking forever on one of those econo stoves.
Hi..Thanks for watching and commenting...We do have propane but it tends to be in large cylinders for campervans/caravans or larger family camping stoves with 2 burners and grills. For the smaller camping/ hiking type stoves, they are either these butane/propane mix or simple Butane canisters...ATB. Mick
Different cost is due to different fuels, and thicker steel to cope with higher pressures of propane mixes. Not all gas out at the same temp. If camping cold, you will find n-butane is going to stop working since it only becomes a gas at 1C, but don't forget, the process of gassing out lowers the temp (note the can getting colder than ambient). isobutane will cope with about 10C lower temps and a propane-isobutane mix about 40C lower. And all of that is at sea level, it's worse at altitude! Shorter story, if you will be camping at anything under 5C in the morning, and at any altitude you'd be crazy to use butane instead of isobutane or a propane mix.
Hi..Thanks for watching and commenting...Unfortunately you cannot get adapters that convert cheaper screw on canisters to fit onto Campingaz "twist lock" fittings, or for the cheap butane to do the same...So..Its refill or buy very expensive "twist lock" canisters....also the cheaper butane ( where you can get screw fit adapters) are very unstable for "Sit on top" style burners...So it is better to refill the chunkier screw on cans....ATB..Mick
If it's a butane or iso-butane can it would be very dangerous to fill with propane as the can is not built to cope with that vapour pressure which is well over double.
@@grahamthomas6381 Hi..Thanks for watching and commenting..If you type in " Gas refill Adapter" on Amazon (or ebay) you should find all of the Adapters I showed...ATB...Mick
I'm pretty sure part of the reason the manufacturer puts a warning to not refill would be their profit margins on sales lol.
That's such a handy and cost-effective hack.
The full and empty weight of the canister is such a great idea and something I wouldn't have thought of the first time I gave that a try.
Thank you Mike! :)
Hi Christine...Thanks for watching and commenting....I'm sure company profits are the main concern with the warnings like you said. But unfortunately, not everyone is as sensible as we probably are and a few might try and fill the cannisters to the top (and that could be dangerous.) Using common-sense, and weighing as you go, I think you should be fine. I have been filling these for years, and never had an issue. In fact, the blue can I refilled in the film is about 7 years old and they have redesigned that particular can now So you cant even buy it anymore......Saved me many hundred's of £'s over the years...And I'm still alive to show how its done...lol....ATB....Mick
I have not seen "CampingGaz" butane tanks in America, since the late 1970's - early 1980's. And then, they were pre-screw on tanks! They had a puncture & seal method of tapping the gas tanks.
Many Thanks!! I have the thread to thread adaptor, which is great, but didn't know about the adaptor for these cheaper cans. All the best mate.
Very good info as always Michael. Nice to know this technique. Stay safe, hope all are well Mick. Peace, John. ATB.
Hi John...Thanks for watching and commenting ....useful money saving idea for anyone who enjoys regular camping or hiking....stay safe and well my friend...Mick
I fill mine from a Calor Gas bottle, when I need to top up or re fill. Can take quite a while and stop often to check out the weight to see were I am at fill wise. I recently bought an adapter with a longer hose to aid filling, by being able to get a rough idea of weight without having to keep taking the re fill cartridge off to check weight. I mainly refill the large green Coleman bottles and my Pumping gas torch. Saves a fortune as neither are cheap, and the Colemans isn't always easy to get hold of.
Hi..thanks for watching and commenting...Yes, I have seen that sort of set up being used on RUclips. I don't own anything that takes the 1lb Coleman bottles, but if I did, i would refill them like yourself. The smaller the canister, the more expensive the manufacturers make them, so definitely worth doing (as long as everyone checks how to do it safely and correctly)...ATB...Mick
Great info to store away in the old memory library.
THANKS Mich!
Hi Kevin...Thanks for watching and commenting...Certainly worth knowing. the manufacturers don't like it (drains their pockets!) but save me a small fortune...ATB...Mick
@@MichaelGreenReviews ABSOLUTELY! 👍
I bought one of those do dads for my small Jetboil stove canister to top off from a larger one so I always had a full can to start a trip. Didn't buy it to save money, though.
Hi Mark...Thanks for watching and commenting....Yes another great reason to buy, You never really know how much fuel you have left in part used canisters?. So by weighing and topping up before a trip saves that constant worry about gas running out of gas half way through your trip.....ATB...Mick
Very interesting. I did not know you could refill the canisters. Nice money saving hack.
Where I live over on the other side of the pond the price of a gas canister has almost doubled in the last few years.
Hi Scott...Thanks for watching and commenting...Unfortunately the canisters are price rocketing here too. In the UK energy prices have hit all time highs over the past year or two. I think people are using the smaller canister stoves for simple cooking to save using domestic stoves. As a result, the manufactures are becoming greedy and putting the prices up on canisters to maximise profits!...So refilling is even more useful at the minute....ATB...Mick
Absolutely fantastic, thank you. Will be getting myself an adapter asap. I do wonder whether measuring is necessary if you know how many cans go into a can, if you know what I mean?
@@FergusCarr Hi..thanks for watching and commenting..If you know the receiver canister is totally empty you can get away with just knowing how much gas is in the donor can. But i often refill half empty cans, to make sure i have a full one for camping. In that case you do need to weigh the receiving canister to make sure you dont overfill...ATB..Mick
@@MichaelGreenReviews I’ve literally just put it to the test myself and managed to put 172g isobutane/propane from a gas eurohike cartridge into the campingaz cv470+. I did find there to be some waste when pushing the can on and it spurting out. About 45g which is a fair amount. And I don’t think it was able to get the last 10g (which seems to have stayed in the donor cartridge) Also, it took bloody ages. But it did work, so thank you. Edit: I used the little brass nipple type adapter, I think I’ll get one of the ones with the translucent tube. Would be good if there was an adapter that converts the canister to twist lock campingaz directly like the screw thread
@@FergusCarr Hi...Did you place the empty can into a freezer for an hour first?. If you do, the transfer is quicker. ATB...Mick
@@MichaelGreenReviews I live on a canal boat so I don’t have a freezer. But I did put it in my ice box for 10 mins and it did make it quicker. I also managed to hold it on more securely and made a more efficient transfer. I got 209g across from a 227g canister. Which is much better. I do wonder whether an adapter from canister to screw lock then an adapter from screw lock to twist lock might mean I can connect the canister directly. Also really wierd I just can’t get the last 15-20g out of the canister.
Great video! Can you not get an adapter that would screw onto the coleman canister and convert this to the camingaz type? Instead of refilling you could just but the cheaper coleman ones?
@@DuaneCowan Hi..Thanks for watching and commenting...unfortunately no, not in the UK at least. As shown, you can get adapters to turn Campingaz twist lock fit into colemen type screw thead, But not the other way around? Hence the need to refill the far more expensive Campingaz..ATB..Mick
Hi great video is it possible to send link of first adapter you showed us.Cant find them anywhere on amazon.
Thankyou
Hi... I'm not sure which country you live in but if you live in the UK and type "gas refill adapter" into amazon you should get this page:
www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=gas+refill+adapter&crid=1RAHUHEAVRXGA&sprefix=gas+refil%2Caps%2C73&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_7_9
This shows you many of the adapters I showed in the video....Hope the link works ok?....ATB...Mick
@@MichaelGreenReviews thanks very much for that much appreciated 👍
Thanks for the link. Was struggling trying to find the campingaz one..😊
Is propane unavailable there in the UK? I think that is the real way to save money... it is something around $24 (£19) for a 20lb tank of propane here in the states. Another $20 for an adapter hose, and your cooking forever on one of those econo stoves.
Hi..Thanks for watching and commenting...We do have propane but it tends to be in large cylinders for campervans/caravans or larger family camping stoves with 2 burners and grills. For the smaller camping/ hiking type stoves, they are either these butane/propane mix or simple Butane canisters...ATB. Mick
Different cost is due to different fuels, and thicker steel to cope with higher pressures of propane mixes. Not all gas out at the same temp. If camping cold, you will find n-butane is going to stop working since it only becomes a gas at 1C, but don't forget, the process of gassing out lowers the temp (note the can getting colder than ambient). isobutane will cope with about 10C lower temps and a propane-isobutane mix about 40C lower. And all of that is at sea level, it's worse at altitude!
Shorter story, if you will be camping at anything under 5C in the morning, and at any altitude you'd be crazy to use butane instead of isobutane or a propane mix.
Pointless filling them. the stove adapters first one out of your box converts them bosh done screw on stove
Hi..Thanks for watching and commenting...Unfortunately you cannot get adapters that convert cheaper screw on canisters to fit onto Campingaz "twist lock" fittings, or for the cheap butane to do the same...So..Its refill or buy very expensive "twist lock" canisters....also the cheaper butane ( where you can get screw fit adapters) are very unstable for "Sit on top" style burners...So it is better to refill the chunkier screw on cans....ATB..Mick
Camping gaz is stupidly expensive providing the same product for a premium price.
I will there for NEVER buy their gas.
Are there any adapters to fill the large butane cans with propane?
If it's a butane or iso-butane can it would be very dangerous to fill with propane as the can is not built to cope with that vapour pressure which is well over double.
@soobz good deal , thanks for your reply 👍
It would have been even more impressive if you had added a link to where to buy the adaptors. I know you said Amazon but WTH do you search for?
@@grahamthomas6381 Hi..Thanks for watching and commenting..If you type in " Gas refill Adapter" on Amazon (or ebay) you should find all of the Adapters I showed...ATB...Mick
Found one on Ebay in about 5 seconds. just typed in camping gas refill adaptor.