I love your videos. I've been watching for years and I love your practical take on things. Its kind of exhausting watching youtube channels that only focus on top end gear. It kind of strips away the joy I get from cycling. I love that you do things with "regular" bikes and put more thought into bikes other than "this is the top of the line bike from X brand so I bought it".
I got an Amazon bike that was 28lbs and returned it. It was almost 100% of their weight, that’s like an adult who’s 175lbs pedaling a very heavy bike. I didn’t want to start him on such a heavy bike, one fall and then they won’t want to ride again because they’ll scare themselves. I did my research and found Woom 2 at just about 11lbs. He went from balance bike to pedals and loves it. Moving him to a Woom 4 now that he’s outgrown his 2.
We did the same thing, started with a used Woom 2. For like $260. I figure I can get at least $200 for it later on and we will essentially pay $60 for our kids to learn on a high quality bike with real brakes. What I didn’t realize at the time is they’re super light. Like 11 or 12 lbs. I recently helped a neighbors kid pick up his 12” bike and was blown away how heavy that little thing was. Probably double the weight. Made me appreciate spending the money a little more. We just ended up buying a Woom 3 brand new because they came out with a new 2 speed auto hub and no one sells them used yet. It was $450 but I think the 2 speed will be well worth it. We also have a second kid that’s 2 years younger so each bike will be used by 2 kids before we sell it.
Totally agree! Been buying Cannondales through my LBS and using their trade up program. So much better than the Department store bike we went with years ago which we got nothing for when done with it. Great vid!
I never knew kids bikes could be high quality. Then I saw this video and a couple days later at my bike shop I noticed Rocky Mountain kids bikes for like 550 bucks and yeah, they look like scaled down MTB.
I taught my than 2 yo daughter how to pedal on a heavy bike from Amazon. It was cheap, like $70 and sold it for $30. Once she built good leg strength I took the pedals and training wheels off so she can learn to balance. She only did that for a couple days, I threw the pedals back on without training wheels and she was riding very well. She was still only 2 yo when she learn to ride without training wheels. When she turned 3 I bought a Cleary hedgehog during a sale for $220. She’s almost 5 and would be ready for a 20” wheel bike but I plan on skipping the 20 and going with the 24” prevelo alpha 4. She can ride the Cleary bike for another year. She is getting big but she can do some nice tricks on that little bike. I’ll get her the Prevelo alpha 4 when she turns 6 and she can ride that until 11yo. I liked the idea of Woom but my daughter is an adrenaline junky and wants to try tricks and jump hills..The Woom is more for casual neighborhood rides.
I bought my son Woom balance bike when he was 2 it was so light and easy for my 2 year old he got really good after 2 months and everyone was telling us to get a pedal bike but I was like that was a $200 at least let him use it for a year 😂 he just turned 4 and got his 1st pedal bike from Walmart but man I’m ready to get him another woom.
I will say I bought my son his first couple of bikes from Wal-Mart. Fair price plus kids grow so fast didn't see a reason to pay for higher end bikes. Truth be said I didn't know much about higher end bikes like I do now. With your skillset on bike repairs you could buy a lower end bike and put it together and i think it would last like any other bike. Anyways just my take...
well it's like when I was a kid I just thought all bikes came from walmart or sears, I never had a actually half quality bike until I was a teen, and that was just fixed up BMX bikes. But I didn't actually care as a kid either, I never thought I was missing out or anything, I love my bikes as a kid.
Great video! My 3-year-old just started peddling on the woom 2. Looking to upgrade to the 3 soon. We got it used on offerup and will list it once we find the 3 used.
Good review. Woom is German for Zoom, or go fast :O) Our twins are about to have their 3rd birthday, and I reckon that the Woom 2 is going to be perfect for them. They are using the Leg and Go balance bike right now. Leg and Go is a wooden bike that grows with your kid. They have been riding them since the were 1 1/2 years old. It also has the over steer idea, which I think is super. I wished that the green break was blue, or a different colour to traffic light, that will have a meaning to kids at some point in time. Thanks!
You focus on price/resale but that's not just the only reason to buy more expensive bikes for your little ones....... Woom is one of the BEST bikes for little kids... The best thing about Woom bikes is the weight-to-child ratio... they are the lightest bikes you can buy... This makes a MASSIVE difference for kids learning... People underestimate how heavy cheap bikes are for kids.... Another great thing about Woom bikes every single part is well-designed and made for kids. The kids sit upright which again helps them learn to bike ride... Woom has great handlebar adjustment to help keep the child upright... The Woom 2 and 3 have rubber bands that attach underneath the steering to prevent your child from over-turning the handlebars right around which can often cause them to face plant. You can remove this later once they have master riding.... The Woom bike brakes are small and adjustable so you can bring them closer for little hands so they are not having to reach out... My 3yr old struggled going down hills with her cheap bike as she struggled with holding the brakes for long periods down the hill causing her hand to get tired and she was worried......they simply weren't very good at slowing her down or stopping her When I bought her a Woom bike it was like night and day she was able to get up the hills she wasn't able to before without my help...... and down hills was super easy for her... her confidence shot up and her hands were not getting tired. Woom brakes are very responsive and require little effort for the little ones to use. The new Woom 3 has been recently upgraded with an automatic 2-gear system... To help them get up hills and as they ride faster it automatically adjusts for when they wanna go faster I would never buy a cheap bike again.... I recommend people buy Woom bikes for their little ones if they are passionate about learning to bike ride. Currently, my 4yr old one is using Woom 3, and my 6yr using Woom 4, and ill be sticking with Woom I think till they are 10 yrs old.. ... I think Woom bikes are ideal for 1yr to 10 yr olds after that I think there are many other great choices from other brands.... but for the younger years, I don't think you can beat Woom bikes....
@@BruceChastain Yes Early Riders are nice bikes but they are also more expensive ... I almost went with an Early Rider.. however for ages 2-6 I found in terms of design I concluded Woom was the better option. Early Riders are more designed for confident riders rather than learning...so ideal for families who are really passionate about the biking and the higher price isn't even a concern
@@jmb69er yeah that's true, we got a lucky deal on ours at just $130. It needed a new saddle so I ordered a replacement one from early rider. In totally we have about $200 into the bike, but it's been really good with the internal hub 3 speed.
We didn’t mean to buy expensive bikes, but our daughter just fell in love with biking, so we bought pretty expensive bike from Commencal and now she can ride 12 miles like nothing and she is 5 yo. She would suffer with some cheap bike from supermarket. Her next bike will be 20” with gears and disc brakes so she will be practicaly unstopable 😂
we've actually upgraded our daughter from the one in this video to a 20" Early Rider, she totally loves it, and I was able to sell the woom 3 for a little more then I bought it for :)
That's SO true... my brother loves speaking Spanish, he works for the US border patrol and it's a pet peeve of his, I'd say, when we in the English speaking USA try and pronounce words, here in the USA as if we live in the country of the word's origin. The one exception is the colloquial pronunciation of town names or last names in the USA
I work in a bike shop as a mechanic and i put together many woom bikes and their built quality is trash considering how expensive they are! I wouldn't put my child on one if i ever had kids.
@@BruceChastain Screws rounding out super easy so they are probably low quality. Hubs seem great. Run very smooth. Materials being used seem very low quality in general. Pastic brake levers (last week we had 3 bikes where we couldn't get em tight so they don't move even with twice the recommended torque) Their singlespeed drivetrains "wobble" you set the tension right and it may be too loose at some spots of pedaling and on some spots too tight. On some bikes we need to spend a lot of time to sand the braking surface of the rim to stop the brakes squeeking and saddle posts where because of the not well thought thru design the screw has to basically make a turn and off course is being bent. That's not always the case tho because manufacturing tolerances. Too much weird shit going on for that price. Espacially the MTB ones like the off6 for example. 900euros and has worse parts than an actual adult mtb for 900euros like the canyon stoic 2 for this price. It doesn't even have suspension. Okay the fork is carbon yet still a bit crazy for the price.
We tried cheap bikes. They’re just not designed well. We had recurring problems with a few different models before springing for a woom. For one, the handlebars were not adjustable and were fixed in a geometry that was clearly designed for use with training wheels and not free riding. For 2, the thing weighed almost 3x what the woom weighs. I had a 32 pound kid on a 28 lb bike. That’s like me riding around a bicycle that weighs 150 lbs. For 3, the crank arms were not designed for a little kid. They placed the pedals way too far out and resulted in very awkward angle of force. Fine for training wheels, not fine for a kiddo who wants to ride without them. They were also way too long. Bottom of the crank was knee locked and top of the crank was knee to chest. For number 4, the reverse brake was very confusing for a little kid to figure out. The woom with the freewheel kit gives immediate audible feedback if the kid pushes the wrong pedal without lurching the bike to a stop. And number 5, a single woom bike was enough to bridge the gap between a balance bike and a normal less expensive kids bike for 2 kids, and we got 80% of what we paid for it when we sold it used. Bought for $360 and sold for $280. So only $80 for 2 kids to learn on a great purpose-built bike.
I love your videos. I've been watching for years and I love your practical take on things. Its kind of exhausting watching youtube channels that only focus on top end gear. It kind of strips away the joy I get from cycling. I love that you do things with "regular" bikes and put more thought into bikes other than "this is the top of the line bike from X brand so I bought it".
Thanks a lot LL! That means a lot man.
I got an Amazon bike that was 28lbs and returned it. It was almost 100% of their weight, that’s like an adult who’s 175lbs pedaling a very heavy bike. I didn’t want to start him on such a heavy bike, one fall and then they won’t want to ride again because they’ll scare themselves. I did my research and found Woom 2 at just about 11lbs. He went from balance bike to pedals and loves it. Moving him to a Woom 4 now that he’s outgrown his 2.
nice!
We did the same thing, started with a used Woom 2. For like $260. I figure I can get at least $200 for it later on and we will essentially pay $60 for our kids to learn on a high quality bike with real brakes.
What I didn’t realize at the time is they’re super light. Like 11 or 12 lbs. I recently helped a neighbors kid pick up his 12” bike and was blown away how heavy that little thing was. Probably double the weight. Made me appreciate spending the money a little more.
We just ended up buying a Woom 3 brand new because they came out with a new 2 speed auto hub and no one sells them used yet. It was $450 but I think the 2 speed will be well worth it. We also have a second kid that’s 2 years younger so each bike will be used by 2 kids before we sell it.
sounds like you're doing it right. We ended up getting a used "Early rider" now that she's out grown the Woom 3, and we're happy with that one too.
Totally agree! Been buying Cannondales through my LBS and using their trade up program. So much better than the Department store bike we went with years ago which we got nothing for when done with it. Great vid!
Thanks a lot TLC!
I never knew kids bikes could be high quality. Then I saw this video and a couple days later at my bike shop I noticed Rocky Mountain kids bikes for like 550 bucks and yeah, they look like scaled down MTB.
yeah true I didn't either.
I taught my than 2 yo daughter how to pedal on a heavy bike from Amazon. It was cheap, like $70 and sold it for $30. Once she built good leg strength I took the pedals and training wheels off so she can learn to balance. She only did that for a couple days, I threw the pedals back on without training wheels and she was riding very well. She was still only 2 yo when she learn to ride without training wheels. When she turned 3 I bought a Cleary hedgehog during a sale for $220. She’s almost 5 and would be ready for a 20” wheel bike but I plan on skipping the 20 and going with the 24” prevelo alpha 4. She can ride the Cleary bike for another year. She is getting big but she can do some nice tricks on that little bike. I’ll get her the Prevelo alpha 4 when she turns 6 and she can ride that until 11yo. I liked the idea of Woom but my daughter is an adrenaline junky and wants to try tricks and jump hills..The Woom is more for casual neighborhood rides.
we have a Early Rider MTB for her now which she's doing good on.
I bought my son Woom balance bike when he was 2 it was so light and easy for my 2 year old he got really good after 2 months and everyone was telling us to get a pedal bike but I was like that was a $200 at least let him use it for a year 😂 he just turned 4 and got his 1st pedal bike from Walmart but man I’m ready to get him another woom.
I will say I bought my son his first couple of bikes from Wal-Mart. Fair price plus kids grow so fast didn't see a reason to pay for higher end bikes. Truth be said I didn't know much about higher end bikes like I do now. With your skillset on bike repairs you could buy a lower end bike and put it together and i think it would last like any other bike. Anyways just my take...
well it's like when I was a kid I just thought all bikes came from walmart or sears, I never had a actually half quality bike until I was a teen, and that was just fixed up BMX bikes. But I didn't actually care as a kid either, I never thought I was missing out or anything, I love my bikes as a kid.
I remember my mom always telling me "You never see the real cost of cheap things. You only feel them." Thank you for the for the insight!
wow that is actually a really good saying.
@@BruceChastain It is. It also turned my early dating habits around! 😁
Great video! My 3-year-old just started peddling on the woom 2. Looking to upgrade to the 3 soon. We got it used on offerup and will list it once we find the 3 used.
thank you! We actually just sold the Woom 3, I think it went for $300. For her next one we went with a used early rider.
Good review.
Woom is German for Zoom, or go fast :O)
Our twins are about to have their 3rd birthday, and I reckon that the Woom 2 is going to be perfect for them. They are using the Leg and Go balance bike right now. Leg and Go is a wooden bike that grows with your kid. They have been riding them since the were 1 1/2 years old. It also has the over steer idea, which I think is super. I wished that the green break was blue, or a different colour to traffic light, that will have a meaning to kids at some point in time.
Thanks!
thank you for the reply!
You focus on price/resale but that's not just the only reason to buy more expensive bikes for your little ones....... Woom is one of the BEST bikes for little kids...
The best thing about Woom bikes is the weight-to-child ratio... they are the lightest bikes you can buy... This makes a MASSIVE difference for kids learning... People underestimate how heavy cheap bikes are for kids....
Another great thing about Woom bikes every single part is well-designed and made for kids. The kids sit upright which again helps them learn to bike ride... Woom has great handlebar adjustment to help keep the child upright...
The Woom 2 and 3 have rubber bands that attach underneath the steering to prevent your child from over-turning the handlebars right around which can often cause them to face plant.
You can remove this later once they have master riding....
The Woom bike brakes are small and adjustable so you can bring them closer for little hands so they are not having to reach out... My 3yr old struggled going down hills with her cheap bike as she struggled with holding the brakes for long periods down the hill causing her hand to get tired and she was worried......they simply weren't very good at slowing her down or stopping her
When I bought her a Woom bike it was like night and day she was able to get up the hills she wasn't able to before without my help...... and down hills was super easy for her... her confidence shot up and her hands were not getting tired. Woom brakes are very responsive and require little effort for the little ones to use.
The new Woom 3 has been recently upgraded with an automatic 2-gear system... To help them get up hills and as they ride faster it automatically adjusts for when they wanna go faster
I would never buy a cheap bike again.... I recommend people buy Woom bikes for their little ones if they are passionate about learning to bike ride.
Currently, my 4yr old one is using Woom 3, and my 6yr using Woom 4, and ill be sticking with Woom I think till they are 10 yrs old.. ... I think Woom bikes are ideal for 1yr to 10 yr olds after that I think there are many other great choices from other brands.... but for the younger years, I don't think you can beat Woom bikes....
for the next bike we ended up with a Early Rider, which is also about the same quality, but yes fully agree.
@@BruceChastain Yes Early Riders are nice bikes but they are also more expensive ... I almost went with an Early Rider.. however for ages 2-6 I found in terms of design I concluded Woom was the better option.
Early Riders are more designed for confident riders rather than learning...so ideal for families who are really passionate about the biking and the higher price isn't even a concern
@@jmb69er yeah that's true, we got a lucky deal on ours at just $130. It needed a new saddle so I ordered a replacement one from early rider. In totally we have about $200 into the bike, but it's been really good with the internal hub 3 speed.
We didn’t mean to buy expensive bikes, but our daughter just fell in love with biking, so we bought pretty expensive bike from Commencal and now she can ride 12 miles like nothing and she is 5 yo. She would suffer with some cheap bike from supermarket. Her next bike will be 20” with gears and disc brakes so she will be practicaly unstopable 😂
we've actually upgraded our daughter from the one in this video to a 20" Early Rider, she totally loves it, and I was able to sell the woom 3 for a little more then I bought it for :)
Well how much did it sell for ? Thanks for the video 👍
sure thing. Sold for $260.
and to add, it sold same day, within a couple of hours of posting, not sure if that was just luck or what.
@@BruceChastain thank you I really appreciate the reply. I'm glad it worked out for you .
What platform did you use to find the bike? (I.e., offer up, FB market place)
facebook market place. That's where I buy sell everything.
What website do you use to resell the bikes?
Just facebook market place
@@BruceChastain Thank you so much for sharing such a great idea!
It's Woom, not Voom.
Yes but it's German so it's pronounced Voom
@@EljayUre maybe in Germany but not here.
That's SO true... my brother loves speaking Spanish, he works for the US border patrol and it's a pet peeve of his, I'd say, when we in the English speaking USA try and pronounce words, here in the USA as if we live in the country of the word's origin.
The one exception is the colloquial pronunciation of town names or last names in the USA
I work in a bike shop as a mechanic and i put together many woom bikes and their built quality is trash considering how expensive they are! I wouldn't put my child on one if i ever had kids.
really wouldn't even have your kids ride one? What's specifically not up to par?
@@BruceChastain Screws rounding out super easy so they are probably low quality. Hubs seem great. Run very smooth. Materials being used seem very low quality in general. Pastic brake levers (last week we had 3 bikes where we couldn't get em tight so they don't move even with twice the recommended torque)
Their singlespeed drivetrains "wobble" you set the tension right and it may be too loose at some spots of pedaling and on some spots too tight. On some bikes we need to spend a lot of time to sand the braking surface of the rim to stop the brakes squeeking and saddle posts where because of the not well thought thru design the screw has to basically make a turn and off course is being bent. That's not always the case tho because manufacturing tolerances.
Too much weird shit going on for that price. Espacially the MTB ones like the off6 for example. 900euros and has worse parts than an actual adult mtb for 900euros like the canyon stoic 2 for this price. It doesn't even have suspension. Okay the fork is carbon yet still a bit crazy for the price.
@@kaedeschulz5422what kids bike would you recommend?
Humm... what quality kids bike would you recommend? I've been looking into Cleary and Guardian.
@@amandarada3242 Don't know those. Puky is pretty solid for small kids. Cheaper than woom and much better quality.
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thanks!
Yea but a child don’t know about quality. They just get on and go. It’s parents who desire
this is true
We tried cheap bikes. They’re just not designed well. We had recurring problems with a few different models before springing for a woom.
For one, the handlebars were not adjustable and were fixed in a geometry that was clearly designed for use with training wheels and not free riding.
For 2, the thing weighed almost 3x what the woom weighs. I had a 32 pound kid on a 28 lb bike. That’s like me riding around a bicycle that weighs 150 lbs.
For 3, the crank arms were not designed for a little kid. They placed the pedals way too far out and resulted in very awkward angle of force. Fine for training wheels, not fine for a kiddo who wants to ride without them. They were also way too long. Bottom of the crank was knee locked and top of the crank was knee to chest.
For number 4, the reverse brake was very confusing for a little kid to figure out. The woom with the freewheel kit gives immediate audible feedback if the kid pushes the wrong pedal without lurching the bike to a stop.
And number 5, a single woom bike was enough to bridge the gap between a balance bike and a normal less expensive kids bike for 2 kids, and we got 80% of what we paid for it when we sold it used. Bought for $360 and sold for $280. So only $80 for 2 kids to learn on a great purpose-built bike.