Are Balance Bikes Getting Out of Hand?
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When I was a toddler, kid's bikes were practically an afterthought. Nowadays, kids start out on extremely specific bikes, tailored to their size and habits. Just like our bikes, balance bikes are available in an insane amount of variations and prices.
Keep in mind that this isn't a video reviewing balance bikes, it's just about balance bikes as a whole. So if you didn't see a balance bike that you like featured, keep in mind that there are literally hundreds, and I simply don't have the resources to include every balance bike that has ever existed. Here are the ones in the video:
bit.ly/43GBGrH Strider 12 ST-R: Priced at $899, this performance XC bike features a carbon frame and carbon handlebars.
amzn.to/46i6l0e Strider Pro: Priced at $189 (or low as $129), this bike features best in class adjustability, low weight, and durable foam tires that require zero maintenance.
bit.ly/3NwZMzy Specialized Hotwalk Carbon: Priced at $1000 (can be found as low as $500), this carbon fiber performance XC bike has superb engineering and grown up styling
bit.ly/3pe1gp2 Prevelo Alpha Zero 12": Priced at $219, this well-designed hybrid balance bike is suitable for a variety of uses.
bit.ly/46jffuv Woom 1: Priced at $250, this very well-designed hybrid balance bike comes in bright colors.
bit.ly/3NcRXO9 Dirt Hero by Kids Ride Shotgun: Starts at $340, this off-road enduro balance bike has stable geometry and an available hydraulic disc brake. It can also be configured with larger wheels for bigger kids.
bit.ly/469Grvl Commencal RMNS 12: Priced at $350, this great-looking enduro balance bike comes with a standard rear brake at its base price.
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I respect the decision not to show your daughters face on camera, she hasn't made that call yet. But I have to say seeing her having some fun going for it on a bike makes me smile
Yeah I agree, good call Seth 👍
Very good call!
That's exactly what I was going to say!
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I wonder what your dog thought....
As a 21 year old with no plans for kids, I did not know balance bikes could be so entertaining
Ahhh to be 21 again and say "I'm never going to have kids". My daughter says the same thing. 🙃
@@explorenaked ah, to be 41 and think your opinion is more correct than hers 🙃
As a 32yo I can't see how would anybody pass on a purple unicorn
@@ericl6460 the heck?
They were saying FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW how they see it. No one said anything about more correct. Geez louise
@@RC-fp1tl the implication was that they will want kids when they get older.
This is the most in depth balance bike video I have ever seen, naturally it’s from Seth. Gotta love it
That's why he's the GOAT in the genre ... No other MTB RUclipsr comes close to making the original, consistent content that comes from Seth. I know people who don't even ride bikes that follow his channel. My cousin is into carpentry and saw me watching one of his videos at Thanksgiving and was like "you watch Seth?"
@@topspot4834 yeh everything is a lil bit different, but kinda the same
"Teach your kids to love bikes, and they will never have money for drugs......."
I'm in my seventies and never thought I'd be so interested in a balance bike video. I started riding at about four, my son's first bike was when he was three, well before balance bikes came on the scene. The first balance bike I saw was about 2010 and was made of flat sheets of plywood and looked craftsman built. I was super impressed from that first sighting. The range of bikes Seth has in his collection is very impressive.
My daughter had that plywood thing. She rode it for maybe 18 months. It didn't matter how terrible it was. Her first pedal bike was an absolute breeze. No tuition needed at all.
This is so true! I work at a local bike shop and we sell three brands of balance bikes. Time and time again, kids pick their bikes based on their favorite color. Strider has awesome colors, so they tend to get picked most often.
Just bought my 2.5yr old daughter her first “real” balance bike. We let her pick the one she wanted out of about a dozen. She picked it because it was purple, not because it was the coolest “Lil Lefty” Cannondale, with heaps of over engineered parts, but now she’s obsessed! She was even following me around as we walked through the bike shop on it too haha. I’ve never owned a serious mountain bike either, but I love this channel and now as my daughter progresses, I’ll finally be getting myself a bike and do some riding together. Thanks for riding with all of us Seth!
Great video Seth! I am not a parent, but when I saw the Woom online several years ago I thought this is the best method to learn to ride a bike. The training wheel method is so unnatural of a riding experience. I hope more parents of young children find this video and have their kids learn on these types of bikes.
After 2 hours scooting around on his balance bike, my nearly 3 year old was sending it down slopes faster than I could run to catch him. Thanks for your videos on these for putting me on the right track to have him learning to ride so early.
Hey Seth! Love the videos man, you’re the one who got me into moutain biking now it is one of my favorite things to do I go everyday I can. You’re a big inspiration! Keep it up!!
I hope he gets back to trail building that trail system is sick
10:40 "which one stood out"
They both deserve love, appreciate your bike saga
YOURE EVERYWHERE
(Edit: and also how are you subscribed to all the same people as me, I’m not expecting you to respond)
Hey Seth! Since we're going back to basics, I'd really like a video on bike geometry. As someone who has mountain biked and used a bike to commute for years, I still don't truly know what differentiates an enduro, XC, etc. Some are more obvious than others, like downhill or BMX.
I could google this but would rather learn from you!
He roughly explained it with the twitchy vs stable. All that stuff relates to angles the different tubes are attached, how pedal-able a bike is, and how much suspension you have. I'm sure he could do an in depth dive on it that is a lot more entertaining and impactful than a RUclips comment though.
I’m not gonna dive into numbers right now because that takes time to type on a phone lol. Anyways, there are three main categories of mountain bikes: cross country (XC), enduro, and most popular is the trail bike category.
XC bikes are meant for one main purpose which is to cover as many miles as possible. So you will find steeper geometry which makes it easier for the bike to utilize the force you put into it. These will also be hella light.
Enduro bikes on the near polar opposite are meant to bomb down hills but still have the gearing to make it back up. You will find them to be longer and have much slacker geometry which makes them much more stable as Seth said and easier to hold a straight line. They will generally tend to be much heavier than their XC cousins due to the bigger, burlier components and linkage and all that.
Now trail bikes are the most popular for a reason and that is that you can cover a lot of miles, bomb down hills, and still make it up. It does all that with ease. Typically the geometry will be in the middle of the previous two categories. The weight will also be in the middle. Not as heavy as enduros but not quite as light as XC bikes.
And as an extra, DH (downhill) bikes are the longest, slackest, and most stable bikes you will find. They have a hell of a lot of travel and are optimized solely for getting down as fast as possible. You can obviously still pedal them up but I doubt you’ll have a good time with the 40 tooth chainring and 7 speed cassette lol. These are bikes you take a shuttle or lift to the top. These are also HELLA HEAVY veering to the 40 pound range.
Now the first three categories can obviously be “interchanged” in a sense. You can use an XC bike for what a trail bike does or even an enduro which is what I did before I got my full suspension. Same thing goes for trail and enduro being used to cover many miles. It’s all about how well the bikes are optimized to doing that. Obviously you can take an XC bike to Whistler but you would need a lot more control on your end to not crash. You can also cover miles with an enduro bike but it won’t be nearly as easy. DH bikes however I dare say that it’s best to keep them for DH and nothing else.
Now as for what you’d want to get, it’s not all about how you ride but also about the terrain in where you live. If its pretty flat with some small hills then an XC bike will be the best choice. If you have a lot of mountains, go with a trail or an enduro bike.
This was a relatively basic guide on the main categories and geometry and all that but many sites such as Pinkbike, Bikeradar, and a couple others have some very comprehensive blogs written.
Happy shredding!
Michael
Travel also applies with XC bikes generally only having 80-120mm of travel, trail bikes hover in the 130-150mm range, and enduro bikes usually have 160-180mm. I only mentioned front fork travel because my thumbs hurt from typing 😂😂😂
@@michaelsalameh4031 using a 2012 mondraker kaiser as my main choice everyday just because its heavier than a tank and it just overrides everything, just put on it a 11 speed with 50t like me and you will find a new way of the bike, anyways it sucks at hard climb tbh you cant block suspensions on a dh, at least on mines.
You're daughter is going to be a kick ass rider! Genuinely impressed especially how well she handled the skatepark, that's aweseom!
Next Redbull downhill world champion XD
the carbon hotwalk aligning the tire info and the valve core/rim sticker is just so good.
Love it Seth and as an experienced parent who’s had 3 kids thru a strider (my oldest on an adult XS now) all the benefits you call out of getting the little ones on these was spot on. Keep this up!
I ended up going with the Cannondale Kids Trail, for a lot of the same reasons you mentioned preferring the Prevelo, plus that lefty fork is just so awesome 😎
I love how respectful you are to your own kids, respecting your life and privacy, giving them everything you can in hopes of equal interests, even with her face covered I could feel the joy and love for bikes. This was am awesome video, I don't need a balance bike yet but one day I'll have a kid. I started riding on a vintage road bike when I was a kid Because it was free.
Seth, I’ve watched all or nearly all of your videos and this one is in my top five favourite. Well put together and great opinions on all the bikes. I hope you continue to review kids bikes as your daughter grows up.
Such a great video Seth! So many MTB parents are going to find this information so helpful when it comes time to introducing their little ones to the world of balance biking. Stoked our Dirt Hero is one of your daughter's favs! ps - you've got a little shredder on your hands 🤘
So glad you're finally reviewing bikes your size! But also, as a parent of a 2 year old, foot placement bits, weight, and the knockblock (as Trek called it) are the most important features for us, and of course colour and looking like Mama and Papas bike. Cool to see you review the Kids Ride Shotgun balance bike as well! Yay for NZ
Im not even a parent but this video makes me so happy. Im glad so much thought has gone into kids beginner's bikes.
So cool for toddlers nowadays, we love it. The woom BTW has the accessory "surfboard" to use as a footrest.
I'm loving the edits keep it up, Seth! 🤣
Thank you so much for making this video! Been watching your channel for a couple years now. My son is going to be turning two in August and I've been scouring through all of the balance bikes trying to figure out which one would be best. It was nice to see them all laid out together, especially since you were covering the three I've been looking at the most. Thank you again so much for making this video! Keep up the awesome work! 🤙🏻
Loved having the Strider for my kids when they were younger. I raced BMX at the time and all the tracks had a strider class. So it was great that we could take part in the sport as a family with kids so young. We held on to the bikes even after they outgrew them and riding pedal bikes because they loved just booting around the driveway and front yard. It's crazy to see how evolved these bikes have become.
Seth, this is my favorite video of yours in a long, long time.
I’m glad you are finally reviewing bikes your size
Awesome reviews Seth - interesting, and entertaining as always!
Definitely right about the twitchiness of some balance bikes. My niece gave up riding hers for ages because it was so twitchy. My kids had a cheaper bike but felt more stable and they loved it. Very quickly they were coasting and taking on bigger challenges because the bike was not scaring them.
I love the Tonka in the background 😁 and thanks for the cool kids specific content - working on some of that myself 🤙🏻
I think it has been proved time and time again, anything Seth puts up will be highly entertaining to watch 😊
Great content! It's great that I can watch the videos with my kids without worrying about language or anything inappropriate. I would love to see more videos on maintenance and upgrades on bikes for bigger kids. Like the 20" and 24" bikes. My kids are interested in maintaining and upgrading their bikes.
You should also try the Kokua Jumper (full suspension / rear suspension / hard tongue category). And you should experiment with more frame materials - titanium, steel, wood, :D
Yes! The Kokua Jumper, as made famous by the then 3 year old Jackson Goldstone! One of my all time favourite mtb videos!
My kids (and therefore all the neighbors kids) have a Kokua and they like it, but they honestly get enough suspension from high volume tires with a low inflation in a rigid frame. They're only doing up to about 8" drops though. Tire stiffness makes a huge difference for what pressure you need at a toddler's weight, so there's a pretty big range of what is right for a tire.
You should bring out the rc crawlers again I liked those videos
His mini crawler video was the first time I'd heard of them. Now I have two and they are such a blast. I love how Seth just gets on random tangents covering different stuff like that.
@@williamreinhard yeah
Voom with their color coded brake handle and v-brake coloring won my heart. So simple almost genius
Great stuff Seth!
As a father of a 10 month old I cannot wait to put her on two wheels!
This video helped a lot to have an idea about whats important and what is good for them.
Video timing... perfect! Been following since the OG Drama Drop and now I have a 2yo son and looking at a balance bike for his bday!
Cheapest is the best. My kids used it for 2 days.
Perfect timing for your balance bike kick. My daughter just turned 4 months!
My 1st daughter started a pedal bike at 3 thanks to a balance bike [haro 12in] w/upgraded tires.... Second daughter started pedaling at two thanks to her balance bike[Ridgeback Scoot]. Breaks on the balance bikes allowed for learning braking control. Neither has ever used coaster breaks and went to bmx and mountain bikes by 4. Absolutely balance bikes are amazing learning and teaching tools. Third daughter has bikes to grow into now lol. Love this video for covering these. quality matters and makes for a fun riding experience and great memories. My girls were hitting trails and pump tracks at two and, although they could ride well by 3, they preferred the balance bikes for ripping around and for teaching cousins. Second daughter is now 6 and still loves ripping up and down the street. FYI we started them on 10in wheels/tires, then to12in and the largest balance bike in our family arsenal has 14in wheels/tires..... again amazing video.
Judging by all these videos I believe that Seth may actually be a man-child 🤔
And we love him 🤙🥳🚲
May? He looks like one, is the size. And is as cool as a kid.
He is in fact a child at heart and I think we all love that
This is the sort of video I'm filing away in the back of my brain for however long when I finally have a kid. top tier content.
extremely in depth explanations, awesome video.
Hey, thank you so much for this video. This is a ton of important information and I really appreciate that you dedicated the time for it.
I have a 2yo and I can't wait to ride with him. We started with balance bike but it didnt catch yet.
Also, cool Tshirt, I immediately orderd a banana cream one
This is the review I have been waiting for😂
I love your videos!(first lol) Im trying to get a mtb because of you. Thank you for getting me into this hobby!
Thanks so much for doing this. Very useful for parents with little kids!
Finally reviewing bikes my own size.. lol That cheered me up. I watch you do things cause its entertaining even reviewing balance bikes that I'm likely to never consider.
Great Job... And... Good to See you are finally reviewing Bikes your size. 😁
Not my favorite subject, but it's Seth, so I HAVE to watch. The reference to "bikes my size" was totally worth watching the whole vid for! 😆
My Kids are far beyond balance bikes, but I enjoyed the video for sure. I can see why you had to get all this information out of your head, and good thing you did. There are those who will seriously use this information to make purchasing decisions for their young shredders to be, and THAT is awesome!
Great video! I bought my first granddaughter the Specialized Hotwalk Carbon at the sale price! Crazy? Absolutely. Also made her a rocker base to put it in and she loves the thing at just over a year old. Can't wait to get her on the trail with me!
my bigger kid is 13 now and owns 3 bikes for different terrain. We started her out on a Kokua jumper, with the optional hand break, not seen anyone else yet with rear suspension!! The Kokua was fantastic, her brother learned on it and about 3 cousins so far. love balance bikes.
My wife is due in one month and I was already looking at these, and now Seth's got a video on them lol. Thanks, Seth!
My dude ... Just get through the no sleep phase of having a baby before buying them a bike. Good luck my man, you're gonna need it.
@SethsBikeHacks I have to chime in, the woom used to have brakes mounted under the chain stay like the pravelo. My kids both kept getting their ankles jammed between the ground and the brakes. I left a review and now the brakes are mounted up top.
For having kids on your bike I'm a big fan of Mac ride. I have it on my full sus bike and then I used road bike grip tape on my handlebars for the kids to grip. I ride stuff way sketchier than I should with my daughter on the bike.
I think Seth is having more fun on the balance bikes than the kids are. great video
Would love to see a mention for the bigger balance bikes on these. My 3 kids started on the basic Strider, but then instantly learned to pedal on the 14" Strider with a pedal conversion kit. It only fit them for a very limited time, but the transition to pedaling was amazing with it!
Thanks for teaching me what those funny little bikes with no cranks are.
Awesome video, as always.
My girls are in college now, but I bought a Specialized Vegas with 12" wheels in pearl white and pink/purple decals for my oldest when she was just a little past 2 yrs old for $200. My non-cycling friends thought I was insane. My youngest rode it next and 17 yrs later, it's still hanging in my garage awaiting the time when I can get my future grandkids involved in cycling.
Great vid! I got my kid started on a Strider and not long after we started doing balance bike races at the BMX track. It's one of his favorite things to do! Now he has his own micro mini pedal bike and nearly ready to race in the 5 & under class. Check out your local BMX track with your kiddo!
great Vid bro! Love it
i dont have a kid but i love watching you talk about toddlers bikes x)
as a parent with grown kids and teaching them the hard way to ride these are amazing. also with the idea of grandchildren someday... can't wait to see how these evolve over the next few years.
Great choice of content for Father’s Day weekend
Nice to see you finaly reviewing bikes your size.
So much cool info! thanks
Best bike video ever!!! That specialised is soooo sick.
As a parent who went the cheap / “only buy one bike” route and got a used trek cub for my kid at 4, I can tell you that I wish I had seen this video years ago. Kids can’t learn on a bike they won’t ride, either because it’s way too heavy or because they haven’t got the fundamentals of balancing down (or both at the same time). You, Seth, are doing a huge service for people trying to decide if a balance bike is worth it.
Great video as always and informative and fun as always but lets talk about that dog after the 2m47s :)
I'm impressed by your balance bike riding skills.
Great video! My youngest started on the Strider Classic and 110% worth investing in a balance bike. The skills they can gain even in a months time of a couple hours a week on it is HUGE!
I didn't notice there were diferent types of these kids bikes, amazing content! Slacker bikes definitely seem a better option for toddles, never seen one with a disc brake I wouldn't feel my kids were going to be safe around disc brakes specially if they are starting (if I had any), but it seems to be something you can remove to begin and then implement it when the kid gets the hang of it, this is awesome! I bought a balance bike to my nephew a while ago there weren't many options where I bought it but it had v-brakes, that was one of the requirements I had in mind when I bought it...
V-brakes are the better option in my opinion. They have more than enough stopping power for a balance bike and you can't get cut by it. Also maintenance is easier, though I doubt you'll ever need to service the brakes on these, regardless of which type you chose.
@@schwuzi Even better than v-brakes for these are mini drum brakes.
We had a Joovy Bicycoo BMX that had a rear drum brake and it seemed like a far better solution than any of the bikes that I've seen using standard brakes.
- It took very low effort to operate (on par with a disc brake)
- It was a small sealed unit near the hub (so no worries about fingers getting caught)
- It was far lighter than most "standard" brakes
Unfortunately I don't know of anyone else that produces a current model with a similar braking system.
@@schwuzi1:43 😮😮l
Absolutely the best video i've seen so far👌
Seeing you on that Specialized balance bike zooming down a trail makes me wanna buy one
Great vid Seth! Finally a bike that fits you🤣
We're expecting our first baby in the autumn. I really hope she takes to biking as much as your daughter has! 🤘
I never thought that I would be so entertained by balance bikes. Seth can make anything entertaining. And it looks like his daughter is going to be an absolute shredder😂
Great video, Seth. My daughter is well beyond the balance bike stage, but is now about to move up to the next size of bike. Your commentary about the stability of the balance bikes has helped me think about the geometry of her next bike, to see if she will prefer the twitchiness of a box bike her size, or to check out the geometry and stability of a mountain bike in her size.
I would always say simpler and more stable geometry is better. My two cents, having had kids and grandkids that age is that mum CAN fix your broken chain and narc'ed derailleur, but whether or not I want to (or can afford to go through these parts and sizes at the rate they go through them) is up to you. We have 1 road bike that is kid sized, with all the race geometry they can cram into it and the road accidents and their confidence was much worse. It wasn't really my *choice* so much as it was them trying to ride their older brother's bike because they wanted to "go fast and look cool", like him.
GRacias... como papa de un kiddo de 1 año y como entuciasta del enduro me alegra muchisimo ver este video y me pone feliz por el futuro que puedo mostrarle a mi nino, ademas de las opciones para que pueda andar en la bici que quiera, ajustandose a la tecnica y progrecion del nino... Muchas buenas opciones de donde elegir ... excelente video .!! y gracias
Great video as always
Great video! I don't know if Puky has any offerings over the sea, but if they do, I'd be interested to see how some of their models compare (LR M, LR Trail etc.) to your favourite Specialized and your child's favourites.
We got my first kid a balance bike with a handbrake because i knew he would be going down single track where dragging feet would not be effective or safe. It made the transition over the the Zulu2 effortless as he knew how to brake already. My other kids have also used the same balance bikes and my daughter has also transitioned to the Zulu2 flawlessly.
Yes the video is great fun and entertaining also informative as I didn't know this kind of bikes even existed and I don't even have kids but I definitely enjoy the way you make your content
The Kokua USA bikes are a good choice too, my son uses the Jumper 14 which has Rear V-Brake and an Elastomer Rear shock that allso for him to do a little better offroad and going over bumps/curbs. He monsters at racing with it too, with the conforming well for the BMX Track, too. It does have the Steering Damper and is really light. We ended up adding higher Bars after a growth spurt (becasue he doens't want to give it up!) even after learning to pedal. It'll be passed down for our daughter and the kid to come, becasue that already happened with his first bike.
Also, wheel upgrades are a big one, the foam are great to learn on (or we strap the cheap skis to them for use in the winter) but recently upgraded the original $40 Joystar bike with true bearing wheels and tires, and my 2 year old flies on it. They're lighter too, so she coasts over twice as loing and can get up the BMX hiulls too.
Great video, Seth, becasue the little rippers keep us young and loving the sport just as much!
Lol! Seth is having way to much fun with those Ballance bikes!
Balance bikes were fairly unknown when my son was growing up, but he still made it.
I do remember getting him a Mongoose Mini-Motivator bmx and noticing the thought given to the geometry of the kid riding it.
He loved riding it everywhere. :)
Thanks for the video, getting my niece one of these for her next birthday
My oldest kiddo is now 11 but when he turned 2 grandma got him a strider. At the time they were made of steel, no footrest, and the seat was hard hard plastic. Oh my he loooooved it! When he got too big i replaced the seat with a softer and larger one and put on a longer seat tube because his legs got too long. And he looooved it till he got on a pedal bike at 5.
Nice video. Much appreciated. I didn't know about categories with balance bikes. Now I know, my kids ride cross country. It is Cruzee which is strongly inspired by strider. I choose it because it is really light and when my kid during walk do not ride more I can easy grab this bike and carry to home with no effort.
Our dude is obsessed with balance bikes😂
Keep it up, we love it❤
It's just nice that bike brands have been so accommodating for people Seth's height lately.
Well timed video. My little guy is almost ready for a balance bike ... and maybe some band-aids.
Both my sons started riding GT Vamoose (~$150) as soon as the were able to run on their feet. They rode it everywhere, and got used to keep the balance, that is what the balance bike is about - to teach a kid to keep balance with a handlebar. And at the age of 3 both of them were able to switch to regular bike within a week.
The cheap steel ones can definitely be a little heavy, and that seems to have an intimidation effect on my kiddos. I found a lighter one with foam tires and a two-wheel setup in the back that I really like, though, and so does my 2 year old! The nice thing about it is that it will hold itself up a smidge for her, but those back tires are only both on the ground when she's stopped completely. So, it's still teaching the same skills, and was a great yard sale find.
The other good thing about balance bikes is that they are so mechanically simple, you don't have to really worry about getting one at a yard sale. It'll be fine!
My kid rode a used strider from 1.5 years until kindergarten at least. We got the larger version as well because they simply didn't want the pedals. It was a hard transition. Got so jealous when we passed the strider to the younger kid. Had no idea these bikes got so expensive.
My daughter started on the Woom 1 and then we tried going to a Cleary Gecko. She struggled in the Gecko. We ended up going back to Woom but a 3 this time and it’s been amazing how fast she took off on it.
Having ridden mountain bikes from early 1990's and growing up through the trends. I just loved what was available for my toddler when I went bike shopping.
I ended up with a KRS dirt hero, because like you said - looks like dad's bike and hell it's an enduro inspired pocket rocket. I also wanted him to learn about brakes, and what better way than have one that requires minimal effort to apply!
Unfortunately I did find quite a few issues with the dirt hero, things like you can't fit any disc brake to it, you need their kit, which they only sell with a frame order... I'll eventually get round to reviewing it properly though.
Love the video but can you please make a new trail building or working outside. I love those ones. Great video!
Thanks Seth! Just yesterday, my wife and I started discussing balance bikes for our boys. Our oldest is 5 so we are trying to figure out the right size. Our younger son is 3.5 and a little shorter than his brother. Would love it if you could do a video on sizing bikes.
I only included the real small ones in this video, but I’d look into 14” balance bikes and DEFINITELY check out the Little Big Bike, which can be converted into a pedal bike.