Hi, hoping I could get some help here. I bought some rail second hands, the rod looks to be straight, however when I put the base of the rail (what's holding the rod), it does not sit flat on my table and wiggles a bit, the base seems to be aluminum so I think when I bolt it down the aluminum will bend, but my concern is will the rod be also twisting or is there relatively low risk of it happening ? Thanks for your help.
How do you deal with the inevitable sag of the two rods? Without any measures, you are milling kind of slight "bowl"-shape onto the surface. And if the router is handguided, the bowl-shape is slightly different on every pass, so fine steps appear on the surface?
The rods are solid high grade steel. The amount of sag is imperceptible. When we hold a light down low on the wood after planning we just see the router marks (not pass to pass marks, unless doing huge cuts, or if the material isn't secured). While it is possible to push down on the sled and get it to gouge with a little practice, and especially with the new locking bearing it's not an issue.
Hi Sander, we just launched a new version that allows you to easily lock the Y axis and with an allen wrench and included shaft collars you can lock the X axis too.
Hi 👋, I am new to your work shop, This Looks like a great bit of kit, I like the concept of it, but I think the rails that router went on need to be the same as the base rails so there’s no flex or as little as possible, PHIL FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOULIN.
Mr. Stuff explained it perfectly in a previous comment asking the same question. "If you really press on them they will bend". If they were made from a 10" Diameter hardened shaft, they could still bend with enough load. All steel has whats called a Yield point. As long as you stay within the Proportionality limit of that particular steel, it will not flex enough for you to notice. I'm confident the weight of a router doesn't come close to exceeding the Proportionality limit of those shafts so as long as you don't push down on the router it will most likely be fine. With that said, the design of the router plate has 2 linear bearings on each shaft spaced far enough apart to greatly reduce bending in the shaft so the design and materials of this product are about as good as you can get. For the record I'm a mechanical engineer with about 25 years experience, and a journeyman tool maker so rest assured the info I shared on this is accurate my friend. (My real passion is woodworking). Hope this helped answer the questions guys and remember, nothing can be 100% dummy proof. Cheers
The rods are solid industrial steel If you really press on them they will bend. But if you slide the router by the ends or don't push heavily it's not a problem. For wider projects or people that want the best we just launched a new version that has even beefier rails for even more rigidity.
Aargh! Don't tempt me. Flattening is such a messy pain I vowed to never do it again and just take them to OB Williams but...... :-) Was looking in the Seattle Craigslist and saw this link. Cool tool.
Are you guys based in Seattle? Anywhere I can see it in action? Seems like close to a grand for a setup big enough for a dining room table but it’d pay for itself.
@@ramaroodle you can see it in action here: ruclips.net/video/r6yHFV7963I/видео.html Unfortunately our small shop in Maple Valley isn't setup for demos.
We do have an option for Canada, contact me on Etsy and I can walk you through it. Currently we're only selling on Etsy and locally (South Seattle area)
Go to S2MS.com (Stuff 2 Make Stuff) and it'll forward you to the pricing on Etsy. We just got done making another batch. What size material are you flattening?
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Where can I find the height adjusters?
Looking for information where you purchased rail adjusters,I live in the UK regards , george from Scotland.
Hi, hoping I could get some help here. I bought some rail second hands, the rod looks to be straight, however when I put the base of the rail (what's holding the rod), it does not sit flat on my table and wiggles a bit, the base seems to be aluminum so I think when I bolt it down the aluminum will bend, but my concern is will the rod be also twisting or is there relatively low risk of it happening ? Thanks for your help.
How do you deal with the inevitable sag of the two rods? Without any measures, you are milling kind of slight "bowl"-shape onto the surface. And if the router is handguided, the bowl-shape is slightly different on every pass, so fine steps appear on the surface?
The rods are solid high grade steel. The amount of sag is imperceptible. When we hold a light down low on the wood after planning we just see the router marks (not pass to pass marks, unless doing huge cuts, or if the material isn't secured). While it is possible to push down on the sled and get it to gouge with a little practice, and especially with the new locking bearing it's not an issue.
I from Israel and I want to order it, is it available on Amazon?
They are available for purchase on S2MS.com look for our nor rails international version. Contact me on etsy for more details.
Can you let me know when you have more available
We're working to make more now. The last batch sold much faster than we expected. They should be available by early next week.
Is it possible to lock one of the sliders so 1 axis is fixed? I see this hole on the side of them. I was wondering if that is what it can be used for.
Hi Sander, we just launched a new version that allows you to easily lock the Y axis and with an allen wrench and included shaft collars you can lock the X axis too.
Bom dia Josh, gostaria de comprar somente a peça para regulagem de altura, é possivel ?? Obrigado
The link on Etsy is no longer available. Are you still selling these kits?
Hi Brian, we ran out of some of the materials to make these (I wish the supply chain issues didn't apply to us) but they are now back in stock.
Hi 👋, I am new to your work shop, This Looks like a great bit of kit, I like the concept of it, but I think the rails that router went on need to be the same as the base rails so there’s no flex or as little as possible, PHIL FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOULIN.
Mr. Stuff explained it perfectly in a previous comment asking the same question. "If you really press on them they will bend". If they were made from a 10" Diameter hardened shaft, they could still bend with enough load. All steel has whats called a Yield point. As long as you stay within the Proportionality limit of that particular steel, it will not flex enough for you to notice. I'm confident the weight of a router doesn't come close to exceeding the Proportionality limit of those shafts so as long as you don't push down on the router it will most likely be fine.
With that said, the design of the router plate has 2 linear bearings on each shaft spaced far enough apart to greatly reduce bending in the shaft so the design and materials of this product are about as good as you can get.
For the record I'm a mechanical engineer with about 25 years experience, and a journeyman tool maker so rest assured the info I shared on this is accurate my friend. (My real passion is woodworking).
Hope this helped answer the questions guys and remember, nothing can be 100% dummy proof.
Cheers
Hello, do you send to Germany? Greetings
We haven't shipped to Europe yet. If you send me a private message in etsy with your address, I'll get a shipping quote for you.
Was thinking about such a setup but got the feeling the rods will bend a little bit
The rods are solid industrial steel If you really press on them they will bend. But if you slide the router by the ends or don't push heavily it's not a problem. For wider projects or people that want the best we just launched a new version that has even beefier rails for even more rigidity.
Aargh! Don't tempt me. Flattening is such a messy pain I vowed to never do it again and just take them to OB Williams but...... :-) Was looking in the Seattle Craigslist and saw this link. Cool tool.
Thanks Andy, we're pretty excited about this too! We think its a great tool to have in the shop arsenal. Best of luck with your future projects.
Are you guys based in Seattle? Anywhere I can see it in action? Seems like close to a grand for a setup big enough for a dining room table but it’d pay for itself.
@@ramaroodle you can see it in action here: ruclips.net/video/r6yHFV7963I/видео.html Unfortunately our small shop in Maple Valley isn't setup for demos.
@@stuff2makestuff Yeah. I just wanted to see how sturdy it is. No worries. Seems like a good system.
Very cool.system and well thought out. When do you expect to have more in stock. What is the price?
Do you ship to Canada? Do you only sell through Etsy?
We do have an option for Canada, contact me on Etsy and I can walk you through it. Currently we're only selling on Etsy and locally (South Seattle area)
Hello I'm interested in this product. But I live in Portugal is that a problem. I would appreciate if someone reached out to me thank you
Hi Alex, contact me on etsy and we can get you a shipping quote.
How much is it?
Go to S2MS.com (Stuff 2 Make Stuff) and it'll forward you to the pricing on Etsy. We just got done making another batch. What size material are you flattening?
Did you stop making these?
They're back in stock. We just finished a batch of machines for a corporate customer so we now have more time to keep these in stock.
what saiz?
We have lots of sizes see S2MS.com
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patent pending, really? Presumptious to state.